WEBVTT - Drive Time - Fins Flashback, Dolphins Jaguars with Seth Levit and O.J. McDuffie 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:06.960 Practice are alpis Pacford Growing Part Touchdown. What a win 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.200 for this Miami Dolphin team? Wow? What is up? Dolphins? 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.239 And welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.000 Dolphins official podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.040 every day. How's it going everybody? It is Game Day 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.720 a Thursday. I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.479 am here to bring you your daily dose of Miami 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.279 Dolphins football. And on today's show, it is game Day. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.680 The preview is in the can. You can download and 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.199 listen to that podcast wherever you get your podcast from 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.320 the Wednesday edition of Drive Time. And today we're gonna 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.920 change it up a little bit, as will flashback with 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.560 a pair of host from our own Miami Dolphins podcast network. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.720 That's right, it's cross over Thursday. Here. We're gonna welcome 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.080 in o J. Juice McDuffie and Seth Levitt of the 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.360 Fish Tank Podcast and talk some Dolphins, Jags, memories, and 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.680 a whole lot more. All of that and more this Thursday, 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:08.760 September edition of the Drivetime Podcasts. In a short week, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.640 we have the injury report from Wednesday available back on 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.679 the previous podcast, as well as Miami Dolphins dot Com. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.600 But we'll have inactives later today up on Miami Dolphins 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.960 dot com. Four Game Day Dolphins at Jaguars at eight 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.600 fifteen on NFL Network. A big game here in primetime 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.960 for your Miami Dolphins. And with that, let's go ahead 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.040 and turn over now to my guest. They host the 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.280 fish Tank Podcast. And if you guys haven't heard the 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.280 fish Tank Podcast, what are you doing? Because this is 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:40.640 a Miami Dolphins fans essentially their own private tour through 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.240 Dolphins history, Dolphins lore, and so many good inside stories 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.040 from beat reporters, people that work for the team players. Obviously, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.880 so many people connected to this Miami Dolphins organization have 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.560 done the fish Tank Podcast with Seth and Juice, and 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.639 they always find a way to get the best stories 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.920 out of those guys. It's almost like a competition at 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.800 this point where guys want to come into the fish 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.040 Tank and beat the previous guy's episode with download numbers 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.960 and stories and overall engagements. So it's a lot of fun. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.320 Check out the fish Tank Podcast and I am thrilled 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.840 now to go ahead and welcome in Seth Levitt and 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.880 O J McDuffie and normally they ask you to dive in, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.440 but today I'm going to ask them to buckle up 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.640 and ride shotgun here and fire up that engine with us, 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.800 because the fish tank is invading drive time. I've got 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.680 O J mcduffee, I've got Seth Levitt. What's up, boys, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.960 I gotta stop doing that where I give you guys 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.160 both the opportunity to talk. I gotta narrow it down 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:34.919 and tell you all right Europe this time, because you 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.200 guys are are like just in sync with that what's 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.000 going on, Travis. So let's go ahead and uh, you know, 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:42.920 we got you back on here today to help us 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.160 look back at I'm not going to call it a 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.919 rivalry because the only real memorable game in this Dolphins 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.400 Jacksonville or Jaguars you know matchup. It kind of went 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.079 the wrong way on us. But let's go ahead and 0:02:55.160 --> 0:03:01.600 talk some Dolphins jackson Yeah, yeah, a little more. But 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.359 let's let's talk some Dolphins Jags ahead of tonight's Thursday 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.880 night football kickoff and juice. You played Jacksonville twice in 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.840 your career, and one of those two was the rough one. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.400 But I want to start first with Seth because you 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.360 and I, Seth were kind of b sing off air 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.440 a little bit, and I told you, you know, we 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.400 have those like insignificant moments in our lives that just 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.120 for whatever reason stick with you. I'm not really sure why, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.200 but I was a young and back in those days, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.840 back in and the game was on a Saturday in January, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.519 and that was basketball season for a twelve year old Travis. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.919 So we're finishing up a game and you know, I 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.200 probably dropped a twenties spot on somebody in a victory, 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.560 no big deal. But all I cared about that day, 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.480 despite the w on the basketball on the basketball court, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.920 was getting home for Dolphins football, Dolphins playoff football. So 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.240 after my coach breaks us down after the game, I 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.640 finish up with and who's ready to go watch? The 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.360 Dolphins crushed the Jaguars, And I think my teammates reaction 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.920 was a bit of foreshadowing because they were just as 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.040 confused as I was when I got home I saw 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.920 the halftime score. But Seth is all a long winded 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.720 way to get to the speech that you saw with 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.880 a little more gravitas on Friday before that game, before 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.840 the playoff game. Yeah, that was so you know, let 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.159 me let me begin by saying that that Jimmy Johnson's 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.160 speech probably had a different impact on me than it 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.000 did o j And and that's okay for this conversation. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.839 But I remember, and I don't know if you remember that, Jews. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.520 You know, we'd have the Friday practice in general, do 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.760 the everybody up and and uh. In those days, even 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.680 as PR guys, we'd be able to get on this field. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.280 And you know, I wouldn't be the first guy in there, 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:35.840 but we were close enough and we could hear what 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.320 was being discussed, and and he'd have the all up 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.680 and and and I remember it. I remember Coach saying, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.719 he goes, you know, he goes, you guys have seen 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.320 what we've seen. You've watched the film, You've looked at 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.400 it all week. We know exactly who they are. We're 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.400 gonna go out there and kick there, asked and he 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.480 said this, And I like, I was ready to go 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.279 run down and you know, be a wedge buster Jewics 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.960 like I I believe I was like, well, I wasn't 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.200 in there watching film, but Coach says it, and everybody 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.680 was all hyped up that we were going to go 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.479 in there and beat the heck out of these guys. Yeah, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.960 apparently he was watching a different film or something. Man, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.640 I don't know, because obviously we know what happened after that. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.000 And it was a rough day for a lot of 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.640 different reasons. But I just remember I called, you know, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.320 my my stepdad and my little brother drove up to 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.360 Jacksonville and they went to the game, and a lot 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.560 of people did because it was, you know, the playoff 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.440 game in state, even though it was a road game. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.880 And I told them that it was gonna be a 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.039 great day because that's what I heard on that practice 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.760 field that Friday, And it just didn't work out that way. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.159 You had to come back the same way. I had 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.280 to come back to my sixth grade basketball team and say, well, guys, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.760 I guess I was wrong on that way. Yeah, well, yeah, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.480 I guess with my family now, I had to get 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.719 back on that plane and all of us looking at 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.920 each other, and you know, the next day, Jimmy's clearing 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.479 out his office and and obviously it was the last 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.200 game that we'd ever seen Dan Marino suit up in 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.799 in the Dolphins uniform, and and a lot of other guys, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.440 and so it was it was a rough way to 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.400 go out. Well that's That's where I want to get 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.720 to Juice here and ask him because obviously, you know, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.800 I love the quote that Seth You always used. If 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.000 you're the toughest guy, or if Dan Marino says you're 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.400 the toughest guy he's ever played with, that's as high 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.760 of honor as you can get. And so you and Dan, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.040 obviously Juice had a pretty close relationship. What was that 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.400 like in that game, Like, did he go into that 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.800 game knowing this was possibly his last run? And like 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.599 just talk about Dan Marino in the in the end 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.360 of the run there. Now, I'll tell you, man, let's 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.680 let's if we're backtracks a little bit, think about it. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.520 We played the second game in Seattle the week before, 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.440 you know, all way on the other coast. Um, we 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.720 were already a banged up team at that point. I know, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.520 my foot was already you know, I'd already gone through 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.360 the struggles with my foot, and I actually iced my 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.640 foot all the way back from Seattle for six hours 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.160 straight just to stop the swelling. Man, it felt like 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.080 I had a heartbeat in it. And then we played 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.920 that first Saturday game, you know, the following week, you know, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.360 against Jacksonville, and they'd already been sitting home for a while, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.440 and we got know with with Seth talking about what 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.000 coach was saying the night before. But we were such 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.960 a banged up team at that point. In no excuse, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.360 jackson it was better than us. I mean, there's there's 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.920 no excuse for us losing. We should never lose that bad. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.040 Jacksonville was a better football team than us. But I thought, 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.760 for me personally, I thought we got to show it 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.840 in the stead to give us a late game on Sunday, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.160 early game on Saturday, going across country. Um, you know, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.560 I think that the NFL could have done a couple 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.800 of favors maybe, and plus he's old guys, We could 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.680 we could have used another day or at least six 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.040 more hours, you know, I rest um, But man, we 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.560 were so we weren't even a step behind Jacksonville that day. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.560 We were steps behind them. And when I saw our 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.640 defense not able to catch up and make tackles, I 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.160 knew it was gonna be a long day, you know. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.920 And we knew that they were fresh and trying to 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.640 be the Kings of the Florida. Um. And man, when 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.160 I saw guys running by some of our best defenders, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:52.840 it was gonna be a long day. I thought it 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.640 was twenty one nothing if I even got my helmets. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.920 What it felt like? You know, it was? It was? 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.000 It was, yeah, it was. It was a tough one, man. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.240 It really was a off one. It and by no 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.239 means that I feel that that was gonna be Danny's 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.840 last game, and you know, by halftime, it felt like 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.000 it was all of our last game. And when you 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.320 talk about that short week, I know, six days is 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.360 you know, people say, well, it's only one day, but 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.960 I mean that cuts into the entire routine, right, because 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.680 a football player is the most regimented profession in all 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.119 in the entire world as far as I'm concerned. Everything 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:21.680 is down to the minute, down to the day. So 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.120 when you lose that day, like, what does that look 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.200 like for a player? Yeah, you know, and I feel 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.160 sorry for the guys to do the Sunday Thursday thing. Now, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.280 there's no way you're ready to go. And for a 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.920 guy like myself, especially at that point, I'm not even 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:37.160 healthy enough to even play, you know, until probably that Thursday, 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.320 Thursday night Friday morning, So even try to get ready 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.600 for a Saturday afternoon game is rough. Like I said, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.120 no excuses, but I mean the body take it takes 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.600 a long time, man for these guys, and that West 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.840 coast trip. Imagine if people don't even play a game 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.040 that go from the West coast to the East coast, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.920 you know, and how long it takes their bodies to 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.760 get back to normal. And they only they haven't even 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.800 played a game, you know, they haven't getting beat up 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.439 like you know, three hour straight. So it was. It was. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.120 It was rough, it really was. But you know, I 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.839 mean that's the way the scheds will panned out. And 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:07.719 you know, we should have shown up and and and 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.120 showed out better than what we did. So if you 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.920 mentioned the plane ride back home, did you even say 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.520 a word to anybody that day? You learned real quick 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.840 as a PR guy that you know, you keep your 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.599 mouth shut, you know, even after winds and and so 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.599 the other thing a lot of folks may not know. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.040 And I don't know how different it might be now, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.000 but we the way we did things. There's a press 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.720 release that comes out the next morning, and it has 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.840 all the statistics from the game, all the different stats, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.120 all the things we see Brett do those great notes 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.880 and what have you, and so each of us, Harvey, Neil, myself, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.319 we all had our own role and responsibility and that 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.640 press release, and Neil would right in the bulk of 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.680 the release, and I had certain stats that I kept. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.920 And so you get on the you get on the 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.920 plane and you break out your laptop and you start working. Um, 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.600 and you know, Jacksonville here is not as a much 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.720 shorter flight than Yeah. Yeah, you're right, it was great 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.800 to get home and have it all be done. Um. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.000 But but for me, and I don't remember specifically, but 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:08.760 I imagine a short trip like that, we might have 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.559 even gone into the office afterwards, because Monday morning or 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.920 Sunday morning in that case, gets there in a hurry, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.000 particularly when it's the last game of the season and 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.959 so much was about to change for this franchise in 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.720 that moment. Yeah, you mentioned Brett, one of our PR 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.800 guys here currently with the Miami Dolphins. He was telling 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.000 me that this week, on short week, there's some all 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.880 nighters in there because you have to get the game 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.199 release out there for postgame for Buffalo and then the 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.599 pregame for Jacksonville. A lot of work you guys do 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.760 up there, and it's it's definitely appreciated by the rest 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.480 of us in the organization. Now let's go ahead and 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.840 transition to another game. But once again, it's it's another loss, guys, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.000 I don't I mean, can we talk about some wins? 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:49.360 And you look at these these games and like the 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.000 wins we have were recent, they were late in the season, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.199 they were non postseason impacting games. It's just there's not 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.320 a lot there. It's the Jags got four, we got 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.199 three on them right now. But I want to go 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.520 back to the game that you used to play on 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.160 Monday night. And I was always curious about this kind 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.520 of more of a general question about Dolphins and Jaguars. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.840 And you mentioned Seth that you know, the family had 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.719 the in state rivalry a playoff game. There was some 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.120 hyper on that, you know, that big loss in that 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.280 playoff game back in nine. But was there a sense 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.319 juice for you guys as players of like an in 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.920 state pride or was you know, there's a rivalry have 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.720 to be developed over time? Yeah, I think it has 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.719 to be developed over time. We didn't. We didn't think 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.679 much of what what Jacksonville was doing, you know, different division, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.280 you know, north part of the state. You know, we 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.520 we were so consumed with you know, with Jets, Indianapolis 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.360 at that point, you know, the Bills, the Patriots that 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.679 you know, those are their main concerns, um, you know, 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.040 and so we didn't we didn't think much about jackson 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:44.680 knew they're a great team and they were really an 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.920 upcoming team. It's amazing how good they got in such 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.840 a short period of time, you know, being a new 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.000 team in the league as well, you know, that was 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.000 it was impressive. But then you know the players they had, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.880 you know, and we're talking about Brunelle, You're talking about 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.440 Fred Taylor, talking about Keena Macartell, you know what I mean. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.400 Even Jay feel were dna have to take him from 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.360 them because he was playing really well against it, you 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.360 know what I mean. So they had one help team. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.120 That defense was was one of the best defense we've 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.240 ever played against. UM, So we didn't think much about him, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.560 but they were definitely obviously somebody to deal with. There's 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.439 a great you talk about the Jacksonville defense, and this 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.480 is probably in the two thousands at some stage. It 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.880 was John Henderson. He he must have been probably three twenty, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.040 but on the video I saw he looks about three eight, 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.600 about eight feet tall. Where he has the equipment manager 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.080 slap him across the face. Come on, John, you gotta 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.960 do better than that. I gotta get blood in my mouth. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.040 Did you ever play with a guy that was had 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.920 that mentality like just all go all the time. There's 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.240 a lot of a lot of those crazy defensive linement 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.760 that way you know you're you're clean bills and you 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.480 know what I mean, And guys like that or like 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.559 they're really really ridiculous, man, I mean he I mean, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.880 we're trying to be defens We try to be cute, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:52.360 you know what I mean. We try to make sure 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.760 we're dressed right. Some of these other dudes, man, they 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.000 don't care what the hell tore where. You know, they 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.080 don't care how they look. They want to get beat 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.640 up before you guys beat each other up on the sideline. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.720 I said, you guys, mind that my name played the game. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.640 You know the way you're hitting each other man head 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:10.320 but you know, slap, you know, smelling sauce. Man. Please, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.280 these guys are like they're going into a heavy weight 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.040 fight most of the time, whether than going to play 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.520 a football game. And you know, as deeps on the outside, man, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.280 we try to look as pretty as we can stay 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.040 as clean as we can and look as good as 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.439 we can. Yeah, I think that. You know, at some 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.640 point in everyone's life they realize, Okay, I'm not gonna 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:25.880 make it to the big so I'm not gonna make 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.400 it to the NFL. I'm not gonna make it to 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.280 the NBA. And that was kind of a moment for me, like, Okay, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.199 that guy is a different species than I am, so 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.559 it's not gonna work out from me. But we want 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.079 to talk about this other game here a real quick 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.720 because you know Big Seth as we like to call 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.200 him around here, Seth Lovett. He runs the Jason Taylor Foundation, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.400 so he knows the Dolphins Hall of Fame defense event 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.480 quite well. And it sort of seems like, you know, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.800 we're talking only els in this podcast because we stay 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.080 on this Monday night game and you talked about Keenan 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.760 mccartel juice. He caught too fourth core touchdowns in that 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.439 game to come from behind and win by seven in 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.679 that game and to make matters worse for me. It 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.560 comes off the hand you might mark Brunel, a Washington 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.600 Husky Gokub's, but the big story from that game, Seth 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.760 was a little bit of trash talk between your boy 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.600 j T and Tony Boselli. Yeah, there was a lot 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.960 of that going on. And uh, you know, as JT, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.000 as everybody will tell you, those guys get paid too, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.160 especially the really good ones, get paid a lot. And 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.080 Tony was a great player for probably not as long 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.160 as I think everybody would have liked to have seen 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.280 him play. But you know that that was definitely his night. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:28.800 Jason will be the first one to tell you. And 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.680 I think he said that when Tony this this last 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.640 year when he was made it into the room there 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.440 for for the Hall of Fame voting, um that you know, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.600 Tony gave him all he could give him more and 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.280 and you know that that seemed to be his night. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.600 And you know Fred Taylor had a couple of big runs. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.680 He had one huge run, I know, the first play 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.440 of the game. I think it was into the game. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.520 I remember, I don't know why I was down on 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.000 the sideline. Someone must have been doing a pregame interview juice, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.200 but I was down there on the sidelines and Fred 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.440 came around that and I must have been around the 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.960 right side and he he ran by and it sounded 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.480 like I was standing on the side of Night ninety 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.560 five with trucks going by the way he moved and 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.240 you could just feel him and and he just was 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.040 flying by and Tea Buck was doing everything he could 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.760 to catch him, but it wasn't gonna happen, and so so, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.440 but yeah, Tony Tony Um, Tony was given it to 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.040 Jason pretty good. J T, especially at that point in 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.320 his career. I think he liked to he liked to 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.960 talk to his opponents and so, you know, he never 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.600 wanted to let you know that you had the best 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.600 to him. And I think they were going at it 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.480 back and forth pretty good. And in that game, you 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.080 also had a touchdown from running back Creem Abdul Jabbar. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.000 And you know, again going back to my youth here 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.320 a little bit, I saw that name and I was like, 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.960 doesn't seem right to me because I didn't know who 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:46.440 he was at the time that I learned about him. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.400 I think he was. Was he Dan's first and only 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.440 one thousand yard rusher? Does that? Do I have that 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.320 stat right? I believe that's correct. That's crazy, So I know, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.720 first for sure, I'm not sure about it. I'm not 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.800 sure if it was the only one. But yeah, it 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.440 seemed like that, Yeah, because he was so Kareem was 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.680 Jimmy's first year. He was drafted, right, and so nine 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.440 sixty thousand yards and and uh and you're right, I 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.080 think that might have been like the first since Dlvin 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.240 Williams or somebody to get a thousand yards rushing um. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.480 Karnem was a good guy and a hard runner. Well, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.640 I was. I was always curious if maybe if some 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.320 of the players might have had some kind of like, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.560 you know, did you guys rib him for that, like 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.000 the name, like did that ever come up at all? Juice? Like, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.200 you know, obviously he's got a pretty famous surname there. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.120 Now we we didn't, you know, we I've seen him, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:32.440 you know, when he's out of u c. L A. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.280 I saw him going through college man and new a 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.240 kind of the type of player he was, man, and 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.400 you know, I mean how good he was. Uh. And 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.040 Kareem is just a really nice guy man. You know, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.040 He's one of those guys that you would never rib 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.400 because they're too nice. It's it's pointless. You know some 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.520 of the other guys though, you know, some of those 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.320 other guys you give them the businesses because they're always 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.760 trying to give the business out man. But Kareem was 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.120 such a super nice guy and uh you know, hard worker, 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.400 you know, and it was just um, I mean, it 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.360 was just fun having that guy on our team for one. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.760 But you know, it was weird to see that he 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.639 did have the same you know name as lu Au 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.320 Sinder and you know, and you know, obviously we saw 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.639 afterwards that lu Out Sender actually what suited him for 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.240 that that last name. He had to put abdul only 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.159 on the back of his jersey or something like that. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.119 So it was kind of a wacky time we had Kareem. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.359 But what a great guy with a great running back. Man. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.000 If he could have stayed healthy and with us longer, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:25.800 I think he would have been a he would have 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.240 had a hell of a career with us as well. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.959 He was a pretty serious guy to juice. I mean, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.320 you know, he was pretty serious and his his religion, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.920 his faith was was very important to him, which is 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.240 why he you know, he chose that name or or 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.520 I guess the name was chosen for him. Um, alright, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.440 because U c l a guy as well, and uh so, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.600