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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: into scredit, fear of normalcy. He Welcome to the hump

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Speaker 1: day edition of One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker here to

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Speaker 1: join you from One Bill's Drive at our Seneca One Studios.

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Speaker 1: Uh please to be joined once again today by our

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Speaker 1: and Kevin, how are you? I hope you had a

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Speaker 1: nice even Who've got a lot of nice feedback about

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday. People seem to like it. Did you

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Speaker 1: have fun yesterday? Tell me that you can be honest,

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Speaker 1: not too honest, but you know it was. It was

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Speaker 1: not what I expected, Steve, but we have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to change that course. No, it was great. I had Listen,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know signed me up for that anytime. Well,

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Speaker 1: I had a blast. Your life success bar is really low,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you. Whitney Houston and sings God

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Speaker 1: Steve of our lifetime, the iconic national anthem? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you so locked in that you're not

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Speaker 1: paying attention? Do you recognize the gravity of that moment?

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Speaker 1: I remember this ten years later, the Super Bowl is

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Speaker 1: back in Tampa Bay and I'm working for I can't

434
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Speaker 1: remember who I'm working for. I'm there for, Oh, I know,

435
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Speaker 1: I'm for Game Day Magazine, the program game NFL Game Day,

436
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: the magazine, the program of and they have me going

437
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Speaker 1: around doing interviews promoting the sale of the game Day,

438
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Speaker 1: the commemorative Game Day Matt Catalog. And it wasn't until

439
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Speaker 1: ten years later that I actually saw what she was

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Speaker 1: wearing when she sang the national anthem, because I was over,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was across the field. She was on

442
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: the Giants were the home team. I was across the field.

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Speaker 1: There was a band and all these people on the field.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't see her, and you know, the song was unbelievable.

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00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: And while they're she's singing this song and I'm kind

446
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Speaker 1: of looking, I kind of take it in. I'm looking around.

447
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Speaker 1: Everybody in the stadium's got a flag. They're waving this little, tiny,

448
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: you know, one foot tall American flag, and everybody's waving

449
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: the flag with one hand and wiping tears out of

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Speaker 1: their eyes with the other, including my three co captains

451
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills and Larry Nimbers, who's the official

452
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Speaker 1: for the game, on the fisher as he's crying, and

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Speaker 1: you know, she hits the last note of that that

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Speaker 1: anthem and the Jets fly over, and then and then

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Speaker 1: a helicopter with a machine gun out the side flies

456
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Speaker 1: over and it was, Yeah, it was. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It was a moment, not just not for the NFL,

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Speaker 1: for for our country, for an entire generation of people

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Speaker 1: my age who had never been through anything like this,

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Speaker 1: where the country, for a minute at least had their

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Speaker 1: arms around each other say you know, we're in this together.

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Speaker 1: You know it was. It was unfortunately a very different time,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, when the country felt so unified and together

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Speaker 1: at a moment in a history like that, when when

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Speaker 1: we were at war in the Middle East, and I'll

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Speaker 1: go where you were starting to go, Boy, it'd be

467
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Speaker 1: nice if we had that again. I mean, it'd be

468
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Speaker 1: nice if we had that that sense of unity in

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Speaker 1: this country. So so you talk about the halftime show.

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Speaker 1: I've dug in on this again because I pitched what

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd be a great idea, and like many

472
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Speaker 1: of my ideas, they said, Connors, you get back to work.

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Speaker 1: We don't need any more. Get back to your cubicle.

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Speaker 1: But exactly right, So the national TV audience doesn't see

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Speaker 1: the halftime show because it's Peter Jennings giving an update

476
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Speaker 1: on Desert Store. I forgot about that's right. So so

477
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Speaker 1: that happens, and then they go back to the but

478
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Speaker 1: I want to so the characters, that's the wrong word.

479
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Speaker 1: The cast in this game is I'm getting I'm I

480
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Speaker 1: swear to god, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it right now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's Jim Kelly, It's Thurman Thomas, it's Bruce Smith,

482
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Speaker 1: It's Steve Tasker, It's it's Andre Reid, James lad James Lofton,

483
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Speaker 1: It's it's Lawrence Taylor. It's um Carl Banks, It's yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: Carl Banks. It's Bill Parcels. It's Bill Belichick. It's Tom Coughlin.

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin is on the other sideline as well. With

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Speaker 1: that staff. Um, yeah, there, it's Otis Anderson. If he

487
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Speaker 1: ultimately winds up when I'm gonna say like this, he

488
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Speaker 1: ultimately winds up taking home the MVP trophialt the guy

489
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Speaker 1: we're watching on TV right now should have won the

490
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Speaker 1: MVP of that game. Thurman Thomas. Yeah, so let me so, Steve,

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Speaker 1: let me let me start over with the trivia question

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Speaker 1: for you. Two Bills scored touchdowns in the game. Do

493
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Speaker 1: you remember who they are? Yeah, Donnie Smith, Thurman Thomas,

494
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Speaker 1: there you go. Four Bills scored points in the game.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember who they are? Yeah, it was I

496
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Speaker 1: don't know if well Bruce Smith caused the safety. I

497
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Speaker 1: can't remember who who who? You know it's Bruce Bruce, okay,

498
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Speaker 1: Bruce Thurman, Donnie Smith and of course Scott Norwood are

499
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Speaker 1: the extra points. And that's right. Um, two Bills had

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Speaker 1: sacks in the game. Well yeah, well Leon Seals got

501
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: the iconic sack of all time. I thought Jeff Hostetler

502
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Speaker 1: was dead after that sack. Uh And I did Bruce

503
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Speaker 1: not get one? Or who got the other one? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

504
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: Leon Seals. Leon Seals is the other one, doctor sack. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying, you know. I went back to the box score,

506
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: and like you, I've never watched the game. I didn't

507
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Speaker 1: watch the thirty for thirty we did. I can and

508
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be dramatic or funny here. I

509
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: don't want to relive that, yeah, the end of the game,

510
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: because it was so painful, but I remember so. So

511
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the box score right now and and

512
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Speaker 1: uh yeah, we kick a field goal to twenty three.

513
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Speaker 1: Scott kicks a twenty three yard field goal to tie

514
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Speaker 1: the game at three, So we're down at the six

515
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Speaker 1: yard line, and we have to settle a field goal.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the events that led up to the

517
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Speaker 1: field goal? I do not. I do not remember those. No,

518
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. So then, so then we go

519
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: up ten three in the second quarter, twelve three on

520
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: the Bruce Smith safety, and the Giants score that fourteen

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00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass Jeff has Stetler to Stephen Baker before

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Speaker 1: the half. So it's twelve ten, little corner route, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember that when that was right. Yeah, they put

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Speaker 1: together a nice long, sustained drive. Yeah, as they did

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter. But so it's twelve ten at

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Speaker 1: the half. Is the game playing out how you thought

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Speaker 1: it might play out? Yeah? We knew they were really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those were two really good football teams. And

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Speaker 1: in fact that it's born out in the in the

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Speaker 1: box score that we played them six weeks before this,

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Speaker 1: in week I think fourteen or thirteen of the fourteen

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Speaker 1: or fifteen of the regular season. I think both teams

533
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Speaker 1: were twelve and two at the time, and we both

534
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Speaker 1: I think both of us had had our bye week

535
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Speaker 1: and it was a huge game, and we eat them

536
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Speaker 1: in New York. And then but in that game and

537
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Speaker 1: this super Bowl twenty five. Neither team, neither team turned

538
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Speaker 1: the football over, no fumbles, no interceptions in either of

539
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: those games. That's how well coached both teams were. And

540
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: so we knew that it was going to be a

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Speaker 1: tussle against those guys, particularly given the fact that they'd

542
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Speaker 1: seen us before and we'd seen them. So yeah, it

543
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Speaker 1: was it was about what we thought it was gonna be.

544
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Speaker 1: We knew it was going to be a real battle,

545
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Speaker 1: no question. So then the Giants go on that I

546
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Speaker 1: think it's a twelve minute drive in the third quarter,

547
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Speaker 1: and I think, for the sake of where we are

548
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Speaker 1: in our show right here, I need to speed things

549
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Speaker 1: up a little bit. So the Giants go on that

550
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: incredible drive in the third quarter and they take the

551
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: air out of the football and Otis Anderson scores on

552
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Speaker 1: a one yard touchdown. We get back in the game,

553
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Speaker 1: take a nineteen seventy nineteen seventeen lead, firm in the

554
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Speaker 1: thirty one yard touchdown run, Matt Barr kicks the field goal.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty nineteen. We drive down the field closing seconds

556
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Speaker 1: of the game, down on the thirty yard line, forty

557
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: seven yard field goal. It's a tough question to ask, now,

558
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? What in nineteen ninety one,

559
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: so we're talking about God thirty years later, do you

560
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: remember what you're thinking as the Special Teams Unit kick

561
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Speaker 1: team comes on the field. In that moment, all I

562
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Speaker 1: knew was it wasn't a gimme. I knew it was

563
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Speaker 1: a long kick, and so it wasn't like a thirty

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Speaker 1: five year old or a thirty five yard chip shot

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Speaker 1: or an extra point or anything like that. I knew

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a coin flip, even under the

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Speaker 1: best circumstances off a grass field. I knew it was

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Speaker 1: a difficult kick to make, and so I was hoping

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Speaker 1: for the best, and really for me, being a special

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Speaker 1: teams guy, I knew Scotty would do his thing, whatever

571
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Speaker 1: it was that he needed to get done. Ready, I

572
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Speaker 1: was just hoping, like and I was standing and Bruce

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Speaker 1: de Haven and I, my former special teams coach, God

574
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Speaker 1: rest his soul. I know he said this to me.

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Speaker 1: In the subsequent months and years as well, he and

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Speaker 1: I were thinking the exact same thing. Just get it off,

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Speaker 1: don't get it blocked, give it a chance. You know

578
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: you got to protect because there you knew what the

579
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Giants were thinking they were they were selling out there.

580
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: They'd sell their souls to block that kick. And we knew,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the kind of and we just get

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Speaker 1: it off. Just get the kick off and give us

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Speaker 1: a chance, you know. So and you know, as I

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Speaker 1: trusted Scott Norwood and and uh and we just you know,

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Speaker 1: give him a chance to make it. That's all we

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00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: could ask for. And and he's got the chance. A

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00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: little seat, let's see what happens. But I would just say, man,

588
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: don't let anything happen up front to you know, to

589
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Speaker 1: get the kick tipped or blocked or something. So that

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Speaker 1: was what I was thinking, no question about it. And

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Speaker 1: of course we all know the uh, the iconic call

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Speaker 1: by Al Michaels. It's why, right, And that's the end

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Speaker 1: of the game. And so the Giants, if I'm not mistaken,

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00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: they have like a second left. They have to they

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00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: have to take a knee. They take one knee. Yeah,

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: and uh and that so and so so you just

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00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: just quickly again, I think we're we're up against it here.

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Speaker 1: But so so it's the Super Bowl and it's the

599
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: end of the season, and as professionals, you know, we

600
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: at home can can turn off the TV or you know,

601
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: get angry or not talk about it or whatever else.

602
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: But you've got a job to do still as a professional,

603
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: where you've got to address the media. Do you remember

604
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: what the locker room was like? So the game ends

605
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: and the teams go back to the locker room, do

606
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: you remember what it was like inside the locker room? Yeah,

607
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: it was um silence, and it was silence, and there

608
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: was an enormous I think collective I would nobody really

609
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: articulated a bit, but I think we spoke about it

610
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: enough in the subsequent months and years. It was a

611
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: subsequent despair about the loss of an opportunity that we

612
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Speaker 1: had created. We had we for those of us like

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Speaker 1: me and Thurman and Jim and some of the guys

614
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Speaker 1: that had been there for a handful of years since

615
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Speaker 1: eighty six. For me, so this was in night. You know,

616
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Speaker 1: this was four years, a handful of years, an entire

617
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: career for some people between the time I arrived, in

618
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: time we got to the Super Bowl. Finally, That's how

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Speaker 1: long the mountains seemed. It was a four year climb.

620
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't a one season climb. It was a four

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Speaker 1: year climb to get to that game, and now in

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Speaker 1: an instant we've got that same four year mountain to

623
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Speaker 1: climb again. It seems, you know, we're all the way

624
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: back down to the bottom with all of that work

625
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: to do to give ourselves another chance like this one.

626
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: We just missed. Huge despair, just despair about what we

627
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: had the had had the opportunity to do, and we

628
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: just missed that. That was it was sadness and despair

629
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: and disappointment in ourselves about a lost opportunity that would

630
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: It just felt like it was gone forever, and there

631
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: was a real sense of loss in that loss. So yeah,

632
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: it was. It was the only I've told my my

633
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: wife and family this too, and some other people too.

634
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: Maybe I've said it publicly, I don't know, but it

635
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: was the only time I really felt physically felt a

636
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: loss if it was a physical sensation about just you know,

637
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: the pressure and the you know, the loss and the

638
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: emotional impact and the struggle and the investment that you

639
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: put into it to be all taken away in that moment.

640
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: You could feel it physically about that, you know, just

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Speaker 1: just like wow, you know it was it was a

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Speaker 1: physical sensation. So yeah, all that was mixed up in there,

643
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Speaker 1: so not the happiest locker rooms. I'll say that, all right,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine. Well, I hope you enjoyed that, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: That's good, that's nice. That's the first time i've really

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Speaker 1: I've spoken about it. I guess a lot, but this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's different doing it with you. That's that's awesome. I

648
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Speaker 1: hope you like that. And I'd be willing to talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Thank and thank everybody out there for listening

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Speaker 1: and kind of commiserating along with me and Kevin about

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00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty five. Long way to go. In today's show, though,

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00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: Thad Brown's coming up at one o'clock, We've got sound

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Speaker 1: from the players post practice. You can join us in

654
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Speaker 1: if you want, call us or tweet at us. And

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Speaker 1: one more thing we got to ask you right before

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Speaker 1: we go to break. We want to know what your

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Speaker 1: reaction is to no fans at home games in September,

658
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: And what do you think about the NFL's attendance policy

659
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: leaving it up to each club, leaving it up to

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00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: each state, should there be a uniform policy or whatever?

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: And plus how are you going to feel about missing

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Speaker 1: all the September home games for the Buffalo Bills. Give

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Speaker 1: us a call at eight oh three five fifty or

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or tweet

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Speaker 1: at us at One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Kevin Connor's

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Speaker 1: here with you, presented by Kalid to Health. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: one of those lives. Tief Tasker with my co host

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Speaker 1: Kevin Connor of ESPN joining us for the day noon

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Speaker 1: to three, where we are asking you what your reaction

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Speaker 1: is to no fans at home games in September and

672
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: the NFL's attendance policy in general. What are your thoughts?

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Give us a call at eight h three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty or tweet at us at one Bills Live. We've

675
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: also got some feedback already on our tweet sheet, brought

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00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

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00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills and Kevin. You may not

678
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: know this, but we've got a tweet from Tiffany, who

679
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: tweets answers our Twitter poll virtually every day. So Tiffany

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00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: says this, I have felt all along we should have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to safely attend games. My family and I

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00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: would follow any and all protocols established by the team

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Speaker 1: and the league. Where a small market team, each dollar

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Speaker 1: lost could negatively impact the franchise moving forward. That from Tiffany,

685
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: there is something to be said for that, because you know,

686
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: there is the entire spectrum of fans out there. Some

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00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: fans would go in. They want to be there, they'd

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Speaker 1: follow any rules you set forth. They just want to

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Speaker 1: be in the stadium. It's it's part of their it's

690
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: part of their family heritage to go to every Bill's

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Speaker 1: game that is available. The problem with that is not

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00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: everybody shares that same you know, same mindset there. You're

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Speaker 1: going to get some knuckleheads and and every state, every

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Speaker 1: stadium has it. And but unfortunately the team in the

695
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: league have kind of take responsibility for everybody in those situations.

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Speaker 1: That and maybe it's the lowest common denominator that disqualifies everybody,

697
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: but it is a real thing. It's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: And in this current atmosphere, I guess, you know, Prudence,

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Speaker 1: Trump's common sense, it would seem that way to be Steve,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's boy, you watch watch a baseball

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00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: game right now, and you know, you see a forty

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand Seeds stadium and there's there's no one in there,

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Speaker 1: And you say, isn't there some way we could figure

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Speaker 1: out how to get ten thousand fans in you know,

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Speaker 1: where there's you ensure certain social distancing NFL stadiums. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about sixty seventy eighty thousand Seeds stadiums. Isn't it

707
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: college football? You're talking about one hundred thousand seed stadiums.

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00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: We can't figure out a way to get twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: fans into a stadium, And yet it's such a weird time,

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Speaker 1: you know. I look, I'm glad that I'm not involved

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Speaker 1: in the decision baking process of that, because who knows

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Speaker 1: what this thing is? Who knows where we are in

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Speaker 1: the ark of it? Are we on the downside or

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00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: things about to go back up again? So you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's probably be better off to be safer than sorry,

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Speaker 1: as much as I'm someone who wants to get things

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Speaker 1: back to normal and see see fans a part of games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And my cost Chris Brownie's out for the week is

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Speaker 1: has always said that if you look at what is

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Speaker 1: what we've been through as a planet, I guess now,

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Speaker 1: if it's a pandemic. It's a planet wide problem. What

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Speaker 1: happened in Italy and France all came from one sporting event. Person,

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Speaker 1: you know, patient zero was at this soccer match between

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Speaker 1: an Italian team and a French team, and all of

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, both countries are in lockdown and it's an

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Speaker 1: absolute mess over there because of that one sporting event

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00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: that had that was packed and it was you know,

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Speaker 1: it didn't seem bad then, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: because of that sporting event, the entire country is brought

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Speaker 1: to its knees, both countries. So I get the apprehension

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Speaker 1: by the National Football League not to not to be that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm you know what, I'm just, I'm just anxious

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Speaker 1: to see games. I'm not a guy who is caught up.

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Speaker 1: And I know this as a as a player, it

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Speaker 1: won't mean as much if there are no fans there

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Speaker 1: to shore with. As a Buffalo bill, the best part

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Speaker 1: of winning games in this town is winning it for

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Speaker 1: the people that are sitting there watching the fans. Because

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and in Buffalo I've said this is publicly

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Speaker 1: a ton. If you live in Buffalo, you your school

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Speaker 1: teachers and the cops and the firemen and the lawyers

742
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Speaker 1: and the judges and the criminals, and the Saints and

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Speaker 1: the Republicans and the Democrats and whatever. Every single person

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Speaker 1: is a Bills fan. Virtually everybody is, from the clerk

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Speaker 1: at the seven eleven to the baker, the butcher, the

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Speaker 1: baker and the candlestick maker, all the chefs, the waiters,

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Speaker 1: the patrons, the major ds, the bellman. Every single person

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Speaker 1: in that city that you will come across is a

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Speaker 1: Bills fan. So as a player, when you're playing in

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Speaker 1: front of that, it means something. Forget about momentum in

751
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: a game. It's way deeper than yelling and cheering. It's family.

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00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: I'm a living example of a guy who has been

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00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: adopted by a family and loved and treated like I

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: was a blood relative by thousands of people in this region.

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Speaker 1: And to go out and to think about what it

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00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: would have been to go out and play in an

757
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: empty stadium, I don't know that I'd be living here

758
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: today if it weren't for those people in the stands.

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00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: It's real and it's important if you're going to play

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00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: for this team, to play in front of these people.

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Speaker 1: And I when I went on the Wall of Fame,

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00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, my you know, I told

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Speaker 1: them my favorite teammate of all time is a twelfth

764
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Speaker 1: man because you know, they taught me how to play

765
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: hard on every downy they picked me up, you know,

766
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Speaker 1: I mean they they made sure I had a reason

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00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: to do it. And that's I think it's there. I

768
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: didn't really, I hadn't really thought about it, like I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about to you, and it's kind of coming out

770
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: of from you know, from a pit of my emotions.

771
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: But it's a real thing when you walk down the

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Speaker 1: tunnel on game day in Orchard Park. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: this third game as a Buffalo Bill is against Miami.

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00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: This is in eighty six, Okay, so the rivalry is real.

775
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: There's people in the stands still remember over the seventies,

776
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: the team they couldn't beat the Dolphins for the nineteen

777
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: seventies at all, and they hated him. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: As my third week in town, I'd just become a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill. Two weeks before, we played at home against

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and that was nice. Then we went on the

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00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: road to New England. Then we came back and played

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Speaker 1: Miami's my first Miami game, and it was in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and it was like late November, freezing rin and I'd

784
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: come from the Houston Oilers, where if it was raining,

785
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: nobody came to the game and they played indoors. They

786
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: played in the Astrodome, And if it was raining in Houston,

787
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: nobody show up, right, they'd just stay at home, or

788
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: they'd come at like midway through the second quarter. People

789
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Speaker 1: would kind of show up, and it was a good game,

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00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: they'd stay. If it wasn't, they'd leave after halftime. It

791
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: was that kind of atmosphere. So I'm showing up and

792
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: i'd go into the locker. I'm walking out of the

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Speaker 1: you know, out of my car, and I'm walking down

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Speaker 1: in the tunnel. I'm like, wow, I ain't nobody gonna

795
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: be at this game. You know, this is Miami. It's

796
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: thirty eight and raining, and I figured it's like Houston.

797
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's gonna show up to this game. They ain't.

798
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: We ain't playing inside. So I go in and I'm

799
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: getting ready for the game, and I don't think too

800
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: much about it. I didn't realize that there was this

801
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: big rivalry with Miami and how much Buffalo had hated

802
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: those Dolphins at that time. Oh, it's early out and

803
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: we go out and out, you know, like fifty eight

804
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: fifty five minutes before kickoff. The early guys go out,

805
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: the kickers, the punters, the kick returners and that kind

806
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: of stuff. So we start down the tunnel and I

807
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: there are people. It's an hour before the ball's kicked off.

808
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: It's thirty eight and raining, and there are a guy

809
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: people fans hanging over the side of the tunnel, and

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00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: I say, you think I'm kidding. It's not frothing at

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Speaker 1: the mouth with hatred for the Dolphins. I was like,

812
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: I was looking around laughing. What is going on? Right?

813
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? And I didn't know?

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Speaker 1: And then finally I figured I was. I was indoctrinated

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Speaker 1: later on because it's Dan Marino and John Shoe and

816
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I didn't know. And I was like,

817
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: that means something for a guy, right, you learn that

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00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: that's part of the deal here in Buffalo. So do

819
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: not have any fans in the stands. I feel bad

820
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: for the young guys and the players who haven't experienced.

821
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: They get robbed of something that they'll never forget. They

822
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: really will. It's unbelievable. To think about, all right, and listen,

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00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: you know from Steve from the fans perspective too, who

824
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen, this is a loyal fan

825
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 1: base who's been through some lean years over the past

826
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: twenty years, and so the fact that there's so much

827
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: optimism about this team right now, we're all thirsty to

828
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: be back. That's right. I guess it's I guess it's

829
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Speaker 1: Bill Stadium now. So let's hope at some point this Yeah,

830
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: this season has all the earmarks of being a nice

831
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: drink of water after a long drought. Okay, we'll be

832
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: back Steve Tasker, Kevin Connor's coming at your One Bill's Live,

833
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

834
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Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging in. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

835
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Speaker 1: Steve task along with Kevin Connors with you until three

836
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: o'clock here on one of Bill's Live from One Bill's

837
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: Drive training campus in full swing. We'll have some post

838
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: practice soundbites for you later in our program. We've been

839
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: talking about a little bit, well a lot, about the

840
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: old days and also about the how the old days

841
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: kind of affect the new days. Here we talk about

842
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: the fans and the reactions and how great it is

843
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: to be in the stadium back in the nineties. And

844
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Speaker 1: what's your reaction to fans or no fans at home

845
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: games during September here in the NFL in Buffalo, And

846
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: also what do you think about the attendance policy in general?

847
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: That's our Twitter question of the day. What do you

848
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: think about the NFL's attendance policy and the fact that

849
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: you can't go to a Bills game in September this year?

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00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully that'll change. You want to flip a coin, Kevin

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00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: and decide whether you think there'll be fans in the

852
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: stands at any of these stadiums during the season regular season.

853
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: Oh oh, listen, I think that there are going to

854
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: be I think that some teams are going to have

855
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: fans no matter what. I wouldn't be surprised, Steve, and

856
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: I've got my I'm looking through optimistic glasses right now.

857
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we start saying,

858
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: you know what, like we talked about, how about let's

859
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: start with fifteen thousand lucky people that can come back,

860
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: and there's got to be a way that stadiums can

861
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: do it where if you're going to sit in this section.

862
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: You're only allowed to enter through this gate, and mass

863
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: must be on and you've got to have four seats

864
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: in between you. But there's got to be a way

865
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: where we could figure something out. And I look, you

866
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think that for the most part,

867
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: obviously this is not true of everywhere, but for the

868
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: most part, people have done a pretty good job of

869
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: adhering to some of these things and living in the

870
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: new reality, which we hope is certainly not the long

871
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: term reality. So I'm willing to bet at some point

872
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: we get to be in games. I just don't know

873
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: if it will be eighty thousand maniacs drink it out

874
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: of a bowling ball and a parking lot before we

875
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: get to the stadium. That's right. I agree with you.

876
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: I think the landscape has changed so quickly. And I

877
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: think also particularly here in New York, since the beginning,

878
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: we've heard about what they you know, the proverbial second wave. Certainly,

879
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: and we said this last segment, I don't think anybody

880
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: wants to ignite a second wave of coronavirus across the

881
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: state of New York, given how rough the first one was,

882
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: particularly in Manhattan, where all the hospitals were overrun with

883
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: patients and the death tolds I rocketed. Nobody wants to

884
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: be the reason for that. And if you can do that,

885
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: not be the reason for that by not going to

886
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: games or not allowing fans into games, I think it's

887
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: a no brainer. But if the landscape does change, if

888
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: there is a way to be vaccinated, or if there

889
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: is a way to you know, just have enough people

890
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: follow protocols. You know, that's hard to keep people away

891
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: from something like like that. Well, we'll see, we'll see. Well,

892
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: let's let's go back to the tweet sheet. What do

893
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 1: you think? And we've got a tweet from Bill's Mets

894
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: fan says, I'm still hopeful of seeing at least one

895
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: person at the stadium. Our plan is a responsible one

896
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: so far. I'm hoping that a reasonable approach will pay off.

897
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: And maybe that's right. Maybe you do this for a month,

898
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: maybe September and October, no fans, and then for November

899
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: December you allow the fans to come back in the state.

900
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: And because they were so disciplined in the lead up to,

901
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, for those first two months of the regular season,

902
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: maybe things do change that much I'm looking at Jeremy's

903
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: tweet Steve. He says, the first two games with no

904
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: fans is unfortunate, but I get it. They're playing. It's safe,

905
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: they have protocols in place. I think a lot of

906
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: fans would follow them, as long as they don't sell

907
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: alcohol in the stadium. Oh wait a minute, Look, you

908
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: know that's a step too far. We will stand for

909
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I won't stand for that. That's right again,

910
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just like so many people. Look, I mean,

911
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, let's not obviously in any way trivialize the

912
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: enormity and the awful loss of life and all those

913
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: things that have happened in this country. I think so

914
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: many people have said, you know, look, we've played by

915
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: the rules in large part for a long time, and

916
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: give us some optimism, and let's just pray. Look, let

917
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: like you said, let's pray we get games number one,

918
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: let's play. Let's pray that in in two and a

919
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: half weeks. We've got games to talk about. And then

920
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: let's pray at some point after that that things are

921
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: going in the right direction for a lot of different reasons,

922
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: so we can get back to the things that we

923
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: as a country love and football is near the top

924
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: of that list. Yeah, and you bring up a good point.

925
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: We'll break right after this. The thing is, let's take

926
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: it in baby steps. If the games go and they

927
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: can have these games, it looks like they can do

928
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: it without fans in the stands, then reevaluate. Maybe you

929
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: can sprinkle in some fans then. But the league doesn't

930
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: even know if these games will happen in week two.

931
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: We're pretty sure week one is going to happen. Let's

932
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: get through week one, week two, so mean first month,

933
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: maybe a home game and a road game, and then

934
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: we'll see and reevaluate. R. I think it's a prudent

935
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: and good sense thing to do. We'll see how it

936
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: works out. But I think that's one thing the league's

937
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: looking as like, let's let's just see if we can

938
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: get these games off before we put fans at risk.

939
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: All right, Steve Tasker, Kevin Connor, we're coming back after

940
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: the break. Fad Brown, WROC sports director, going to join

941
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: us right after the top of the hour to give

942
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: us his thoughts on Bills training camp. This is One

943
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's

944
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Radio Welcome back to one Bill's Live. Finally back on

945
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: the air. Had a little technical glitch there that kind

946
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: of stymied us from getting back on the air there

947
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: for a minute or two. Glad you bore with us.

948
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: We're here today, me and Kevin Connor sitting in for

949
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Kevin has been with us yesterday and we'll

950
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: finish this show today. We've been a great co host.

951
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: It's been fun talking to him. It's fun to I

952
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: always forget that there are people out there who aren't well,

953
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: at least one guy who's not hot, tired of all

954
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: the old stories from back in the days when I

955
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: played it was. It's nice to know that there's somebody's

956
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: still interested in an old guy. Kevin has filled that

957
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: rule nicely Today's and yesterday. So it's been it's been fun.

958
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: But we are pleased now to be joined on the

959
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: line by w r OC TV sports director. He's the

960
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Bills preseason sideline reporter for the TV side, Thad Brown

961
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: and for you watching MSG, that's the one on the top.

962
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Of course, Kevin the co host is Yes, Kevin the

963
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: co host is appropriately wearing Bills gear, which that obviously

964
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: didn't get the memo today. So right, yeah, how are

965
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: you fat? Thanks for coming on with us. How's it

966
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: going for you? Good? Good? I mean good to you know,

967
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: be at practice. And you know, Kevin and I were

968
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: talking before we started the segment about getting closer to normal.

969
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Every everything that we do is a little closer to

970
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: roma feels a little bit better. But I'm happy to,

971
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: you know, have football season almost around the corner here. Yeah,

972
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: and it has been more a completely different preseason. But

973
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it, but man, your preseason and

974
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: training camp has got to be vastly different from the

975
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: Bills being at Saint John Fisher. Yeah. And it's not

976
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: just the difference in sight, you know. Obviously it's I'm

977
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: used to driving the hour fifteen or whatever to come

978
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: to Buffalo for practice during the season, So that's not

979
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: a big deal. The difference is is the way everything

980
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: is set up now. It's okay, I gotta be in

981
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: front of a computer for my zoom interview, then I

982
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: gotta be to practice. Then I go back to the

983
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: computer for the Zoom. Then I take those interviews and

984
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: send them wherever they got to go in the social

985
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: media world. Then produce a show and it's just the

986
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: whole day, you know, is it's a little bit less compact.

987
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: It's it's spread out through the whole day, but it

988
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: tends to occupy the whole day, which has been different.

989
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's good in one way and

990
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: bad in another, but it's just it's been taking some

991
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: getting used to for sure. Fad you you've been around

992
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: the team and obviously have covered the team for some time.

993
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Right now, how do you compare the vibe around the

994
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Buffalo Bills with seasons past. The confidence and

995
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: swag level is off the charts relatively. I mean when

996
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: you are around this team, and maybe it's just us

997
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: looking from the outside, knowing what they have, knowing what

998
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: they've done, you know, and the fact there's no Tom Brady,

999
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: no big Patriots roadblock in the way that this season

1000
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: is going to be different. But it's still it just

1001
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: feels different to be around this team. Everything that they

1002
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: do you look at and say, oh, that's what you're

1003
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. That looks good. You know, there's

1004
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: there's such a positive, not upbeat, happy, but like we

1005
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: are going to get this done. We are going to

1006
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: have a successful season. This is going to be different

1007
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills, And you feel it every drill,

1008
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: every everything, every interview, every everything the players do and say,

1009
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: the coaches do and say. It's just a whole different

1010
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: sense and something. This is season twenty one for me.

1011
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: I have never, you know, been in a preseason where

1012
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: you get that kind of feeling from the Bills. Well,

1013
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, the next question's got to be, are they

1014
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: going to turn into last year's Cleveland Browns where they

1015
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: start thinking about themselves and as Super Bowl contenders only

1016
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: to lose out in the playoffs and kind of stumble

1017
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: out of the gate that kind of thing. I mean,

1018
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: how likely is that to happen with this coaching staff

1019
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: and this regime. I think pretty unlikely for three reasons

1020
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: that pop right into my head. Number one, this coaching staff.

1021
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things they've done well when

1022
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: it comes to winning games is that they don't screw

1023
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: up against the teams they should be. I mean, I

1024
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: don't know what the record is. I've looked at it

1025
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: a couple of times. It's something like fifteen and three

1026
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: six whatever it is that they don't blow games and

1027
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: you look back and say, how did you lose that

1028
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: game number two. This team has been built in a

1029
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: better way than I think the Browns were last year

1030
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: because the Browns had a big, big hold offensive line

1031
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: that was exposed pretty quick. This team just doesn't have that.

1032
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean really, you know, I'm sure at some point

1033
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. But the biggest question mark is

1034
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: probably the quarterback. The supporting cast around on both sides

1035
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: is just phenomenal, you know. And then the third reason,

1036
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: actually I got a mid I forgot because I had

1037
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: three and then I got so much into the first two.

1038
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: But look, I don't I don't think this is a team.

1039
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh I remembered it, now, I remembered it. Now seven

1040
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: playoff teams, you know. Look, there's almost there's almost no

1041
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: way the way this situation is set up for the Bills,

1042
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: with the division around them not only lagging since last January,

1043
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: but the Patriots lost a bunch of guys to opt outs.

1044
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 1: The Jets are now without C. J. Mosley and Jamal

1045
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: Adams two attack OFFLOA hasn't really taken over in Miami

1046
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: like we thought he might back in April, May, June, whatever,

1047
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: So the Bills are in a position where they might

1048
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: sag back to nine and seven and still win the

1049
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: division fairly comfortably. So this is not to me a

1050
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: team that has the opportunity to do with the Browns

1051
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: or maybe even the Bears did last year. That I

1052
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: think about the stars on this team, and I think

1053
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: the conversations obviously Trey White, Tremaine Edmonds, Josh Allen too,

1054
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 1: but I you know, you guys correct me if I'm wrong.

1055
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: I think that Stefan Diggs is the biggest star on

1056
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: this team. I'm curious to know the label on Diggs

1057
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: coming to the Bills is great player, but be careful,

1058
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: there's a diva side to him. What have you observed

1059
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: about his chemistry through the first nine days of camp

1060
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: with Josh? I think it's growing and getting better, you know,

1061
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: And it's not just with Josh. I think the last

1062
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: couple of days especially, we've all noticed and you've seen,

1063
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, go to my twitter feed that Brown seven

1064
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: and others to cover the Bills. There's video of day

1065
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, talking with Josh Allen, talking with the other receivers.

1066
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: I saw him talking having a pretty heated conversation heated

1067
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: in a good way with Jake Frown. The other day

1068
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: so I think Diggs has not been afraid to, you know,

1069
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: really at this point, step up and have a leadership

1070
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: role on this team and you know, be vocal and

1071
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: be an example. Now, we don't know what he's saying,

1072
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, we assume it's good. I mean, they're undefeated

1073
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: this point, so I don't know what problem there could be.

1074
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: But I think the whole Stefan Diggs intangible part has

1075
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: been nothing but positive so far. And I think the

1076
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: fact that he has not been afraid to show it

1077
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: so early in camp, I think is also a good

1078
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: thing too, because look, the Bills have leaders at receiver

1079
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley and John Brown, but to have a

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: guy of Stefan Diggs caliber in terms of the quality

1081
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: of player he is also be that same type of guy,

1082
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: I think there's nothing but good things for everybody else.

1083
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: You're with Steve Tasker Kevin Connors on One Bill's Live.

1084
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: We're joined by Thad Brown, who's the Bills preseason TV

1085
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: sideline reporter and also the sports director of w r

1086
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: OCTV and Rochester. I got to ask you this too.

1087
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: One of the things that we've all been deprived of

1088
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: across the National Football League is watching practices. Even the

1089
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: guys who watch a little bit of practice are inhibited

1090
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: from talking about exactly what they're looking at. I mean,

1091
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: the clamp down on information coming out of Bill's training camp,

1092
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: as well as every other team's training camp, has been

1093
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: slim to none. But having said that, who are the

1094
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: rookies on this team that you think are like, hey, wow,

1095
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this guy's pretty good. You know, there's

1096
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: got to be some surprises. And that's one of the

1097
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: things that's fun about training camp every year is getting

1098
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: a look at the draft choices, you know, the A. J. Peneza,

1099
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: Zach Moss, you know, Gabe Davis is and Isaiah Hodgins

1100
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: of the world. You know, you want to see these guys.

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00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: How have they looked and who stood out? If there

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: is there a rookie undrafted free agent that nobody's heard about,

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: what's going on with the rookies. I think Gabe Davis

1104
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: is the first year I got to mention and I'm

1105
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: not breaking any news here. He's just been, you know, unbelievable.

1106
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: And it's not just the fact that he's had, you know,

1107
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: a few good days. I mean, you know, Steve, you've

1108
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: been doing enough these training camps to know, there's always

1109
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: that camp all star, and very often it's the receiver

1110
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: you don't know about because well, first of all, there's

1111
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: not much tackling or hitting, so the guys who are

1112
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: catching the passage will stand out. But you know, these

1113
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: guys will also to make a play. Maybe two days

1114
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: a week or one have a great practice with Gabe Davis.

1115
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: It's been every single day. You know. There's two plays here,

1116
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: one physical catch here, the one we're watching right now

1117
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: with Trey White. I was very impressed by because he

1118
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: not only beat Trey White White right off the line,

1119
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: but then was able to win the physical battle with

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Speaker 1: him on the ground. Davis has been We expect him

1121
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: to be a physical receiver. He's been that, but the

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: quicks have been there too, at a level that I

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00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: did not expect. So, you know, everything that everybody's saying

1124
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: about Gave Davis, I will just you know, put my

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00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: underline and my highlight two and agree. The other guy

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00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: that I've liked a little bit that I think not

1127
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about is Brian Cox Junior.

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00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: He's been making plays. He's around, you know, around the quarterback.

1129
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: He's had a knockdown in the stadium last Thursday. It's

1130
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: been a little more under the radar, but you know,

1131
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: for a guy that you didn't you know, we knew

1132
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis and the team because he's a fourth round pick.

1133
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Brian Cox Junior is not that guy, and yet he's

1134
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: been standing out, you know, on a regular enough basis

1135
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: that I've been impressed and I've become a big fan already.

1136
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: Fed Steve and I had a chance to talk yesterday

1137
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: about the success that the Bills have had in the draft,

1138
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: not only early on obviously you've got to nail those

1139
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: first second round picks, but the depth of the class.

1140
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: And we've talked a little bit about Gabriel Davis and

1141
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins is a guy that was a fifth round

1142
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: pick a season ago, that didn't see the field at

1143
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: all last year, who played at Florida, right, He's got

1144
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: the sec the roots, and that's Vashon Joseph. What can

1145
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: you tell us about Vashon? I talked to Vashan, you know,

1146
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: last week, and I've got to say I've been very

1147
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: impressed with the way he has handled you know, what

1148
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure was a pretty adverse season for him last year.

1149
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, keep in mind, this is a guy. He

1150
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: grew up in a pretty rough Miami neighborhood, saw a

1151
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: lot of violence growing up. When he was in college.

1152
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, four childhood friends were killed just in those

1153
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: years while he was at Florida. So this is a

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: guy that you know, I think, like like some players

1155
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: are looking at a football career as a possibility to

1156
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: escape that life and make something better for himself. So

1157
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: he gets this close, I mean, gets a fifth round

1158
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: draft pick. I mean, you're right there. And then last

1159
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: year tears his labor him in preseason is out for

1160
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: the season. You know, I think for some guys, you know,

1161
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: that might that might ruin you. You know, that might

1162
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: really you know, knock you down to a point where

1163
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: cheess am I ever going to be able to turn

1164
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: this around? And Joseph's attitude has been upbeat. It's been positive.

1165
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: You know. He said, look, the injury something, it's just

1166
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: like situational change. He's comparing it to, you know, like

1167
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: an interception in the game. You gotta go out and

1168
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, play defense. For him, he's just

1169
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to make that work for him.

1170
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: And he said, even being off the field. Last year

1171
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: was the first year he ever Um did not play

1172
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: because of injury. Was still he called it beneficial. He

1173
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: said being around the guys, learning and watching, he thinks

1174
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: was good for his career. And he had a whole

1175
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: lot of nice things to say about the family atmosphere

1176
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: and the group, you know, the teammates and the guys.

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: He said that his teammates, you know, helped to make

1178
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: sure he didn't get depressed last year or get unhappy

1179
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: with the situation. So you know, he's a young man

1180
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: that again, I was very impressed to talk with Um.

1181
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: An easy story to root for. I know there's a

1182
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: you get a lot of those in camp, but this

1183
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: one fits right into all those things. You talk about

1184
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: a guy that you hope, you know, can can make

1185
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: it in the NFL, because you know, it's fun for

1186
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: us to watch and root for him. But for these guys,

1187
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: these are life changing moments, and you know, Voshan Joseph

1188
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: is a guy. I like to see how that happen

1189
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: for such a different training camp and all the different

1190
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: circumstances and wild things that are going on in our country,

1191
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: in our world in the NFL. What's been the most

1192
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: interesting storyline in training camp for you. Well, Dave Davis

1193
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: is at the top just because of how good he's been. Um,

1194
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think the growth of Josh Allen obviously

1195
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: has to be there too. You know, his ability and

1196
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: practice has been better this year, he said, some up

1197
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: and down days. You know, we talked about watching the

1198
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: deep ball last year. He's been pretty good with that

1199
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: so far. M But you know, I think again, you know,

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01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: go back to where we started this just a general

1201
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: overall you know, attitude of this team and belief of

1202
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: this team that this is going to be a different

1203
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: season and a team that's gonna move to a different level.

1204
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: So you know, watching that develop and watching the confidence

1205
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, build and stay intact and not be dissuaded

1206
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 1: no matter what has happened so far has been impressive. Again,

1207
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, at zero games, it's easy not to be dissuaded.

1208
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: But you know, that's where we're at with the Bills

1209
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: right now. Hey, fat, who's getting the next bag? All right?

1210
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: Who's who's the guy that that that? Who's next up

1211
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: for a contract extension? Is there any any I mean,

1212
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: you know a couple of guys who are obviously in

1213
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: line for that. We've seen Dion Dawkins already get get

1214
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: a big contract. Who's up next? I think it's got

1215
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: to be Tradavious White. I mean, that would be the

1216
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: guy i'd want to lock up first. You're shut down corner,

1217
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, those are those are guys that you do

1218
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: not want to let walk away. I might throw out

1219
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: Brandon being here. I don't know if he's in what

1220
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: you were thinking, but you know, the architect of the

1221
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: whole deal, um, you know, as in a similar contract

1222
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: situation or was, you know before Sean McDermott signed his

1223
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: extension with with McDermott, so you know the work that

1224
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: he's done, and we've talked about it, you know, kind

1225
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: of a little bit sideways in this conversation. Already has

1226
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: been among the best jobs that any GM in the

1227
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: NFL has done over the last five ten years. Those

1228
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: two guys would be at the top of the list.

1229
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 1: The other guy that you know you talk about getting

1230
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: an extension with Matt Milano, and I know the Bills

1231
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: would probably want to have him around, but with the

1232
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: cap likely being reduced significantly next year, and with Milano

1233
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: playing one of those positions linebacker, that just is not

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: valued in the NFL right now. You know, I don't

1235
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: know if there will be enough bag around to use

1236
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: your term, Kevin for for Milano to dip his hand

1237
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: in and get a piece. I know the Bills want

1238
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: him to. And then one other guy I want to

1239
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: bring up is Michael Hyde, who's got two years left

1240
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: on his contract. It was a thirty year deal originally

1241
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: nice deal and all, but he has greatly outperformed that

1242
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: and at some point, you know, like what the Bills

1243
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: did with Jordan Poyer, you know Michael Hyde will be

1244
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: on that list. What do you think that from the

1245
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: rookies last year? The guy's like yet Oliver, the Cody

1246
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: Fords of the world. Which one of those guys are

1247
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: another second year guys going to make a big leap forward?

1248
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: Do you think we've seen all the players in the

1249
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: player development side of the Bill's coaching staff has been

1250
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: really on point throughout their tenure here in Buffalo. These

1251
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: players play better in week four, in week eight, in

1252
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: week twelve, in week sixteen, they get better throughout their seasons,

1253
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 1: as we saw ed Oliver last year, Cody Forward as well.

1254
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: Which of those guys takes a big leap I think

1255
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: it might be Dawson Knox, but I don't think you

1256
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: might notice it as much as you would imagine, you know,

1257
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: because he had such a difficulty with the drops last year.

1258
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: He's been pretty solid with that so far in camp,

1259
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: you know. And I think with Knox, it's not so

1260
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: much that he will make a big leap, but the

1261
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: ability is there. The natural talent is there for him

1262
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: to be one of the top level tight ends in

1263
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. And if he can fix the drop issue

1264
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: and develop the receiving game a little further, he can

1265
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: be a pretty significant weapon. I don't know, again, if

1266
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: you see it, because you got Stefan Diggs, he got

1267
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: John Brown and Cole Beasley, you know someone's gonna lose targets,

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Speaker 1: and Knox might be that guy. Not necess relative to

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01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: last year, but what you might expect for a person

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: of his caliber, so he'd be the one to look at.

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01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Cody Ford, to me, is the one I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills hope make the biggest leap, because there's there's clearly

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: a and a want to with the Bills for Ford

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01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: to become a dependable offensive lineman. And you know, he

1275
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: had a lot of trouble last year, pass blocking, run

1276
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: blocking was pretty solid. If he becomes a very stable

1277
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Speaker 1: and dependable, you know, tackle guard or whatever, it's going

1278
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: to make a big difference with his Bills offensive line

1279
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: going forward, because he's one of the younger pieces for sure.

1280
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Speaker 1: Fed Well, we have the opportunity to have this interview

1281
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: alongside the greatest special teams player of all time. I'd

1282
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: be remiss if I didn't ask you about special teams?

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01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: Are we looking at? Are we carrying two kickers? What's

1284
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: going on with the punting competition? I think the punting

1285
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: competition to me right now is Lackland Edwards to lose.

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01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: He's been a very competent, to say the least, and

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Speaker 1: probably slightly above average punt of the last couple of years,

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: which you know, Corey bilhark Has and Bedvick were both

1289
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: too ratic, I think to really, you know, threaten Edwards,

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01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: We'll see the kicking competition is much more fun. There's

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: no way they keep both though, Kevin. To answer your question,

1292
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: there are just too many roster questions, you know, if

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01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: you start trying to build a fifty three, you know,

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: I've had Trent Murphy getting cut, I've had Isaiah Hodgens

1295
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: not making the team, and these are you know, general

1296
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: guys who you think would be mainstays on the rosters.

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01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,479
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be Bass or Houshka. Both have been good,

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01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: not great so far in camp. You see Bass's length,

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, every time he lines up something over forty five,

1300
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: but the accuracy has been not what you want to

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: be so far. To me, I think it comes down

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: to if the Bills feel good about both guys, they

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01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: keep Bass and the draft pick in the upside. If

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: they're shaky or nervous about both guys, I think they

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: keep housh going to go with the dependable option that

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: they know has made the big kicks in the past.

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01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about if the Bill's expectations are

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01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: so high, which they are, what about the rest of

1309
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: the division? Josh Allen carries so much of the question

1310
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: marks for the Buffalo Bills and how they're going to

1311
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: be at least offensively, and certainly the ripple effects across

1312
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: the roster with how Josh Allen develops. What about the

1313
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: rest of the quarterbacks in the AFC easton? And if

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to win the division, who's going

1315
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: to give them the biggest run for their money. It's

1316
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: still the Patriots. You know that they have the best

1317
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: quarterback of the other three teams right now. You know

1318
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: that might be different in eight or ten games or

1319
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: right this second, Cam Newton is the best of the three.

1320
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: And it's still Bill Belichick. And there's still you know

1321
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of good pieces, good enough pieces around Cam

1322
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: and Belichick to at least make the Bills sweat a

1323
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: little bit. The Dolphins, I think are a year away

1324
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: from being a concern. You know, we'll see where Tua is.

1325
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: The Jets look. I like what Joe Douglas did in

1326
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: the off season, and I still think Sam Donald has

1327
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: you know, enough good things that you want to keep

1328
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: around and see what he can do the next year

1329
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: or two. But you know, the their off season and

1330
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: their preseason has been an utter disaster so far. You

1331
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: trade away Jamal Adams and I get the logic there,

1332
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: but for twenty twenty, that's bad. They're fraught with injuries again.

1333
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: There their biggest receiver import not named Shard Perriman, Denzel

1334
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: Mims hasn't touched the practice field once because of a

1335
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: hamstring issue. So and Adam Gas is still Adam Gase,

1336
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, to me, the least trustworthy head coach in

1337
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean I don't. I don't think three

1338
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: and thirteen is off the table for the Jets right now.

1339
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: So from the Bill's point of view, really it's it's

1340
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: only New England that you're worried about. And I think

1341
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: it only becomes legit worry if Bill Belichick can get

1342
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: Cam Newton to a point where it was twenty seventeen,

1343
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, where he's at least a top half of

1344
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: the NFL passer Because the Bill's roster is still superior

1345
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: to New England in a lot of different ways, and

1346
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: it's going to take a lot of head coach QB

1347
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: work to make up for that, the same kind of

1348
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: level they had the Patriots did the last few years

1349
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: when it was Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Dad, there's

1350
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 1: a reason that I was asked to be on the show,

1351
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: and it's it's in part any way to ask the

1352
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: probing question. So I'm going to do it here. Who's

1353
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: got Like give me the who's got the best non

1354
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: football swag? Like we saw a video of Cam Newton

1355
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about Cam wearing the the shorts pant suit, Like,

1356
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: who's who's got the best style on the team. I'm

1357
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: thinking of a couple of years ago. You want to

1358
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: cesspitis if the Mets he shows up, he's driving that

1359
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: sling shot, that weird car, Like, give me, give me

1360
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: some non football flavor that you can share with our audience. Well,

1361
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: this is actually a good question to ask me if

1362
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: he's one of my jobs game day is to record

1363
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: the players walking into the locker room, so I get

1364
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: I get plenty of swag viewing and I'll tell you

1365
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect it. But Jordan Poyer rides high on that list.

1366
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: I mean that guy comes with a solid look every game.

1367
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: Keep in mind that really isn't anybody on this list

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: last year. What I said, Jordan Phillips. Jordan Phillips is

1369
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: a blink guy and it's always been impressive. But he's

1370
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: obviously on the team this year, so I can't count him.

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01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: So Jordan Poyer to me, would be would be the

1372
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: top guy. If you want a guy who's um, I

1373
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 1: don't say fashion plate, but certainly um. You know brings

1374
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: it every week when it comes to road apparel. He

1375
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: is very good and not super formal can go. Uh

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, T shirt and suit. Um, you know the

1377
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: as the stock game is there, you know I'm gonna

1378
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 1: give it his his a better half. Rachel bushrom credit.

1379
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: I think she she helps out there. But Jordan player's

1380
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: my guy for this guy. Coming up Sunday at three

1381
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: o'clock wr OC and Rochester and also w IVB here

1382
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, are gonna air the No Punt Game of

1383
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two just for my own uh humility. How

1384
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: old were you in nineteen ninety two? Uh, sixteen sixteen? Okay,

1385
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: so you remember the game all right? So you weren't

1386
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: totally You weren't like, you know, drooling on on your

1387
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: diapers or anything. Okay, perfect, I'm with that game. I'm

1388
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: with that game. What do you I didn't watch it.

1389
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't remember being dialed into it, but I certainly

1390
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: remember talking about it for days. Yeah, what do you are?

1391
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: You are you gonna do? Are you gonna watch it

1392
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: this Sunday? You're gonna take the time, um, watching more

1393
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: bills after watching something that I should be doing when

1394
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: it comes to bills related reporting to them to go back.

1395
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not an old games guy, you know. I

1396
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: get the fun of it. You know. To me, when

1397
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: I watched an old game, you know what I'm looking at.

1398
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the video quality, I'm looking at the

1399
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: camera angles, what were what was the score box like

1400
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: if there was one, you know, um and and comparing

1401
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: from that point of view, just sitting down and watching

1402
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: an old game. To me, I'm always about I'll tell

1403
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: you what. One of the things that I really like

1404
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: about this business and why I do it, is that

1405
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: every day is a new chapter. You know, like tonight,

1406
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's nothing big going on, there's baseball whatever.

1407
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: You don't know what weird thing might happen. You don't

1408
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna get a perfect game that has

1409
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: a disputed call like we do with the Tigers a

1410
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: few years ago. I don't know if we're gonna get um,

1411
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: Luca don Chiz, you know, bearing a game winner. So

1412
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: to me, that the next game is always the thing

1413
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: for me, and I've never been the kind of guy

1414
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: I want to sit down and revel in you know,

1415
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: ninety two or the No Punk game. The one thing

1416
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: I do watch all the time though, is Steve Tasker

1417
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: Special Teams Highlights, Because of course, there's nothing better than

1418
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: watching Steve Tasker running down covering a punt. Yeah, I've

1419
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: got it on continuous loop at my house too, but

1420
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: not for nothing. On Friday, and you might be you

1421
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: might want to tune in for the this that On Friday,

1422
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: We've got Jim Kelly and Steve Young coming onto the

1423
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: show to promote that game, the No Punt from nineteen

1424
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: ninety two. Steve Young and Jim Kelly, the two quarterbacks

1425
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: that were responsible for throwing for almost a thousand yards

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01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: in a single game over the course of the nineteen

1427
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: ninety two game between the Niners and their Bills. Those

1428
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: two guys coming on with us on One Bill's Live

1429
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: Friday to promote the airing of the no Punt game,

1430
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: the first one in NFL history. So you can tune

1431
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: in and catch that. Listen to those guys talk about that.

1432
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be phenomenal and you know going listen to

1433
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: how they were going back and forth. You know, I

1434
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: gotta score, you gotta score. That'll be a whole lot

1435
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: of fun. I got you. I agree with you, Thad,

1436
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, appreciate it's great here and from me,

1437
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: we'll look forward for more of your writing w r

1438
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: OC and on their website, and also looking forward to

1439
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe someday seeing you back on the sidelines for a

1440
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: preseason game, although not in twenty twenty regular games will

1441
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: be fine with me. Roster First dot Com is where

1442
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: you can find that stuff, and guys, thanks for having

1443
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: me on. Thanks a much, Steve Asker. Kevin Connor's coming

1444
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: back right after the break, One Bill's Live, presented by

1445
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: Collide to Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Thanks Dad Brown,

1446
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. We'll be right back. Welcome back to

1447
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: One bills Lives through Tasker. Kevin Connor here with you

1448
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: until three o'clock. We just had Thad Brown, sports director

1449
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: of w RCTV's been watching Bill's training camp with the

1450
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: rest of the Western New York media and limited capacities,

1451
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: but still it's been there every day and well, I

1452
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: think the thing that gripped me, Kevin about what Thad

1453
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: Brown said was the just the confidence and the swagger

1454
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: that the Bills are putting forth. And of course I

1455
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: immediately asked the following question, are they going to be

1456
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: the Browns of last year? You know, because everybody's saying

1457
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to be good and I say

1458
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: it and I believe it. This is a good football team.

1459
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: And I had to immediately ask him, how how likely

1460
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: is it the Bills would be a team with such

1461
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: high and lofty expectations you know, have a hard time

1462
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: living up to them. And to me, um, Steve, you

1463
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: know this as well as anybody, right, I mean, it's

1464
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: it comes down to veteran leadership and coaching and and

1465
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's one thing to be talented and it's

1466
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: another thing to be held accountable to that. And so

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged by who we have in charge and the

1468
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: veterans we haven't charge. What stood out to me, Steve,

1469
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: is the guy that we keep going back to is

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01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis. Right, I mean a fourth round pick and

1471
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about I know we didn't have a first

1472
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: round pick this year, but I was I was expecting, Hey,

1473
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: Zach Moss has been a guy who's really good between

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: the tackle runner and a j F and SA is

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: really short. No, it's Gabriel Davis. That's the That's the

1476
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: guy that we seem to continue to go back to.

1477
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: How encouraging is it that you can have a guy

1478
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: who's going to give a size at that position, but

1479
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: could potentially be an impact guy as a fourth round pick. Yeah,

1480
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: that's right, and you're you're right to keep harkening back

1481
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: to the fact that the Bills scouting staff, Brandon Bean,

1482
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: coaching staff, whoever you want to call or give credit to,

1483
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: or all of them, they have gotten a lot of

1484
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: contributions from guys down the draft list, the third, fourth, fifth,

1485
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: sixth round guys who have come through, and even rookie

1486
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: free agents like Levi Wallace who have been starters for

1487
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: this club after being on the street. Certainly they had

1488
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: some insight because the year they brought Levi Wallace up

1489
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: was the first year, that first year after Brian Dable

1490
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,959
Speaker 1: had come away from Alabama, Levi Wallace ala of Alabama.

1491
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Brian Dable watched him practice every day and said, na

1492
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: I think that kid's got something, And certainly he was right,

1493
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: as the guy's been a starter for two years for

1494
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Stuff like that happens to good teams.

1495
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: You get contributions from players that nobody else really gave

1496
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: too much credit to. And I think one of the

1497
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: things too, we got to it later in the Thad

1498
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: Brown conversation just last segment, Kevin was the fact that

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01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: Cody Ford ed Oliver have both been tabbed as being

1500
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: pretty important contributors already, but he said Dawson Knox might

1501
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: be the guy that takes the biggest step in his

1502
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: second year. I think that's pretty interesting to hear well

1503
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: and Steve, we saw glimpses last year, right, you know,

1504
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: the the indelible memory that I have when I think

1505
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: of Dawson Knox is the catch and then that that

1506
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: nasty stiff arm. And but that at the same point,

1507
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: as we talked a little bit about yesterday, there are

1508
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: some drops and so you know, do you make that

1509
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: jump from year one to year two? Do you find

1510
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: that consistency? As everyone knows he's a guy who is

1511
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 1: relatively new to the position. The athleticism and the intangibles

1512
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: all seemed to be in another stiff arm, right there

1513
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: all seemed to be there for a guy who the

1514
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: Bills took roll the dice on, and everyone seemed to say,

1515
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: it's a really good pick man. What a dimension you

1516
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: could add to the offense if he turns out to

1517
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: be a significant contributor. Right, I mean, now, now who

1518
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: you're covering, Now you're gonna double in Stefon Diggs at all.

1519
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 1: I mean you you know you have Beasley, John Brown,

1520
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox pass catchers out of the backfield. I mean,

1521
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: think about how the offense and the playbook expands. If

1522
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is a reliable guy. That's right, and it's

1523
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: is it really going to be fun to see? There's

1524
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: no question about it. There's a lot of positive vibes.

1525
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that are waiting to see

1526
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: how this team does under these higher expectations with a

1527
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: better roster. The problem is, and this is part of

1528
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: the question we're asking our listeners today, what do you

1529
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: think about the fact that you're probably not going to

1530
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 1: get to see this team in the stadium in September?

1531
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: What is your reaction to no fans at home games

1532
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: in September for the Buffalo Bills and also the NFL's

1533
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: attendance policy. What do you think we've got You can

1534
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: call us at eight or three oh five fifty or

1535
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty or tweet

1536
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: at us, and we've got plenty of people chiming in

1537
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, and the tweet sheet brought to

1538
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1539
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: the Buffalo bills from Jeremiah. He says this, Kevin, he says,

1540
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it, and I feel it should be

1541
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: the same for all teams. Also, if they use artificial

1542
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: fan noise, are they allowed to make it completely silent

1543
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: when the home team has the ball and only play

1544
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: crowd noise when the visitors have the ball? If so,

1545
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: how is that fair? This in regards to the league

1546
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: is now exploring the possibility. And I don't know if

1547
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: we have talked about this at all, Kevin. They're talking

1548
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: about in empty stadiums, piping in fan noise into the

1549
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: building into the stadium. Forget about the broadcast where people

1550
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: see at home, but they're going to do it on

1551
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: the field for the players or whatever if there's no

1552
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: fans there. Does it make any sense the pipe fan

1553
01:19:52,560 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: noise in right? Do it? Yeah? Does it impact? Is it? Is?

1554
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,959
Speaker 1: It's so unnatural for players to play in a silent stadium.

1555
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: You know, generally speaking, Steve, I'm not, I'm not generally

1556
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: a fan of the artificial stuff. We talked yesterday, you know,

1557
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: the virtual fans that they that Fox has done on

1558
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: some Major League Baseball broadcasts. You know, kudos for them

1559
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: for trying to find get creative. That's not for me.

1560
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy that. As we talked about yesterday. I

1561
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: enjoy hearing things I look, I love. I mean, think

1562
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: about the advancements that they've been in broadcasting where guys

1563
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: wear mikes and you play those little clips that they

1564
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: put together, or you get to hear Peyton Manning at

1565
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage changing the play and barking out

1566
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 1: the audibles. To me, this is an opportunity. I'm really

1567
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: on the field now. If there's no artificial crowd noise

1568
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm hearing at all, which is concerning on some levels,

1569
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: I think maybe for some of the broadcast networks. But

1570
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: at the same time, that really gets me in the game.

1571
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: And yet, if there's a sixty yard touchdown pass or

1572
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: a kick return and it's and it's sixty guys on

1573
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,480
Speaker 1: the sideline cheering, how does that change the viewing experience.

1574
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: It's another one of those tough things. But I would

1575
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: be inclined to say, you want to pump a little

1576
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: bit in on the broadcast, I'm okay with that. In

1577
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: the stadium or the artificial fans. I'm not so sure

1578
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I think in the stadium for the fan,

1579
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: with the artificial fans, it gives the home teams, not

1580
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: the fans, the home crowd, but the team a chance

1581
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: to gain a competitive advantage. They can turn it up

1582
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: as loud as they want and turn it off whenever

1583
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: they want. They can put it as loud as they

1584
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: want when their defenses on the field, they can turn

1585
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: it completely off when their offense. And to me, that

1586
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,879
Speaker 1: takes the competitive nature of the game off the field.

1587
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: It's fine if the fans are there, because then it's

1588
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: your fan base, and it's your history, and it's your

1589
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: team's ability to stir those fans up into a point

1590
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: where they can affect the game. That's different than just

1591
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: having a volume knob and saying my team's gonna get

1592
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: this advantage, this much of an advantage. Your team is

1593
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: not going to get this message much of an advantage.

1594
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: And I'm wearing the Bill's logo today and I'm making

1595
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: sure my team, the Bills, are gonna have this advantage,

1596
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: and I'm making sure your team doesn't. Yeah, if you've

1597
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: got people wearing gear like ours that are affecting the

1598
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 1: game like that sitting up, you know, with noise. I

1599
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: think that's not I don't think that's fair, and I

1600
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: think that's outside the realm of competition. If if the

1601
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: state and they are they can be a benefit or

1602
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: a victim of whatever situation their stadium presents them, both

1603
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: with fans in the stadium and with fans out of

1604
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: the stadium. So I'm I'm against piping mute fan noise

1605
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: onto the field during the game if there are no

1606
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: fans present. I'm I think it's you're adding a guy

1607
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: upstairs in a new office with a volume thing. You're

1608
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: adding him onto the into the competitive mix, and I

1609
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: think that's wrong. Certainly, the coaches are there, but they're in,

1610
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, they're that's part of the deal. But they

1611
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: don't have volume controls, you know. So I'm I'm against

1612
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: doing that on the game. So I don't That's where

1613
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: I stand. I think, you know, I I know it's

1614
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how this is any any of this

1615
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: is gonna look any more than you do. So that's

1616
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: where I sit today. I may change my mind tomorrow,

1617
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: and I will reserve the right to do so. Right,

1618
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? All Right, We'll take a break.

1619
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: We got more coming up. Post practice sound is coming

1620
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: up afterwards, and if you didn't hear it, yes at

1621
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: the end of our Thad Brown interview tomorrow More tomorrow

1622
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: afternoon during the pro not tomorrow Friday. During the show,

1623
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and Steve Young are going to come on

1624
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: and talk about the no punt game in nineteen ninety two.

1625
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: It's being aired here in Buffalo and in Rochester over

1626
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: the weekend One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health

1627
01:23:47,960 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome back

1628
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: to one of Bill's Lives team Tasks. Along with Kevin Connors.

1629
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: We are on the ride until three o'clock here and

1630
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: coming to the top of the hour, we've got some

1631
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: post practice sound bites from guys who are spoke to

1632
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: the media today. I think today the usual suspects are.

1633
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I think it was Jordan Poorier, Mitch and Mitch Morrise

1634
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: spoke to the media today. We're gonna have sound from

1635
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Poiard, Mitch Morris Bill's Center coming up. We also

1636
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: would put it to you our listeners, you know, what's

1637
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: your reaction to no fans at home games? In September

1638
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: and the NFL's attendance policy. We've got a lot of

1639
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: Twitter feedback from you are fans and from Jack he

1640
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: says this. I'm bummed, but I understand. If they had

1641
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: any fans, I would hope they could find a way

1642
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: to fairly get their season ticket holders in for some games,

1643
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: like splitting them up. I'd have gone, But I get

1644
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: it comes down to what the state says, and for now,

1645
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: it's to stay safe. I'll tailgate at home. How often

1646
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: do you get to pro sports events at all as

1647
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: a Kevin as a ESPN employee, like zero do you

1648
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: ever get to go? It's so so. We're in the

1649
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: middle of Connecticut, right where there used to be the

1650
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,839
Speaker 1: Hartford Whalers, but they left and became the Carolina Hurricanes

1651
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Now maybe more so, we've got it.

1652
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: We've got got a Double A baseball team at Hartford,

1653
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: which the games are great to go to. The Hartford

1654
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: yard Goats is the name. The Hartford yard Goats is

1655
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: the name of the team. I gotta get a hat.

1656
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you one there. They got great gear.

1657
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: It's a great experience. It's Double A Baseball. Obviously, no

1658
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: no games this year Hartford yard Goats. The yard goats.

1659
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: That is awesome. That is awesome. Go ahead, So you

1660
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: know my I'm limited to right, That's the thing you

1661
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: think this slob works for. You know ESPN. He's going

1662
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: to games all the time. And really the only opportunity

1663
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: I get to go to games is not the only

1664
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: opportunity is when you're covering them. Now. I was to

1665
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: a Bills game with my brother. We flew up probably

1666
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: four years ago. Now was the Thursday night game where

1667
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: we had the red out, you know, where the Bills

1668
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: wore red lost to the Jets. Occasionally, you know, you

1669
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: get to baseball games. I got to cover the Major

1670
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: League Baseball All Star Game last year in Cleveland. That

1671
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: was great. Yankees Dodgers Sunday Night Baseball from Dodgers Stadium

1672
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: was awesome. But it's hard, Steve. I've got an almost

1673
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: six year old and almost two year old. It's tough

1674
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: to go load up to Connor's family roadster under good

1675
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: conditions and make it to a game when you know.

1676
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: So it's not as often as i'd like to, as

1677
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 1: a long winded way of saying it, but hopefully I

1678
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: will tell you this, given what's gone on over the

1679
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: last six months. I can't tell you how much I

1680
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: want to get back to games again. Yeah, I'll tell

1681
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: you this, And maybe you're like me, maybe you're not

1682
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: the games all the games that I worked, and I worked.

1683
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: Somebody said I worked three hundred games as an analyst

1684
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: for CBS. I did it for two decades. But I

1685
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't ever count the game those

1686
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 1: games as attending a game, you know, because so much happens,

1687
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: and you know, you know what it's like. You've been

1688
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: you're a played by player. You really know what it's like.

1689
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you are ultra focused and have tunnel vision

1690
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: about directing traffic and saying what happened on the field

1691
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 1: and what you're looking at to the point where it's

1692
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: not it's not a game. I mean, it's it's job.

1693
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Where it's work, right, I mean, you don't even get

1694
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. And we will say, hey, do you

1695
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: remember this happened and this happened to say, well, I

1696
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: did the game, and I don't remember that happened. I was,

1697
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking about something, you know, So

1698
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't even count all those hundreds of games that

1699
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: I did for CBS as attending a pro sports thing.

1700
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: I've I've got a chance the last couple of years

1701
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: to go to a couple of Bills games. But when

1702
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: you go to these games as a broadcaster, and you know,

1703
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: it's not like attending a game, it's like going to work.

1704
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you got stuff you gotta get done. It's

1705
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: it's really you're really busy, particularly on a game day. Man,

1706
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: it's crazy. And and there listen lest anyone feels sorry

1707
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: for me. I don't want to go quite that far, right,

1708
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: but you're right, there are a lot of moving parts

1709
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: and and you'd better be on top of your game.

1710
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, it's a fabulous experience. I've done so

1711
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: many college basketball games. You sit courtside and you watch

1712
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: major Division one college basketball games on the court, and

1713
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: you get to talk about it. So that's great. But

1714
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: it's a different experience. It's not casual. You're locked in.

1715
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: You you know, you've got other responsibilities that you've got

1716
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: to do. Um so and and you know, and and

1717
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: and for me, I'm not going to Patriots games unless

1718
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: the Bills are playing. And I'm not going down to

1719
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: MetLife State. I could care less about the Jets and Giants.

1720
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,520
Speaker 1: So but I will tell you this when when baseball

1721
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: when when Hey, when you we're able to get back

1722
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: as fans to games, I'm making it to the Yankee

1723
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Stadium a couple of times next year. I'll tell you

1724
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 1: that I know this too, and I've I'm and people

1725
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: who listen to the show faithfully, No, I'm not a

1726
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: baseball guy. I trash baseball constantly. I'm like, I'm so

1727
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: down on baseball all it's even in even in normal times,

1728
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: all right, So it's that's me. So I have like

1729
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: my personal thing. But I do get that when you

1730
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: go to a baseball game live and in person, it

1731
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: may be the most different experience you'll ever have watching

1732
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: that game on TV and then going to that game

1733
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: in the stadium. It's a it's a vastly different experience

1734
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: even you know, and I know it is. It's different

1735
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: in football, it's different, it's different at home, but it's

1736
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: even the way you feel being in a baseball game

1737
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: is so different than I think it's a bigger difference

1738
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: watching baseball on TV and being in baseball than in

1739
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: any other sport. Um. And I've always said hockey is

1740
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: the best live sport to go to. You go in there, man,

1741
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: that that is it's grea right because it's a it's

1742
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: buzzing all the time, because the pucks in play all

1743
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 1: the time, and it's a great live sport because it

1744
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: moves fast. And then every sports you know, completely different.

1745
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,919
Speaker 1: But I get what you mean, m being and particularly

1746
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: for me what I just said about working these games

1747
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: when you go with as a fan, man, it is

1748
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: I get why people are bumming that they can't go

1749
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: to these games. I mean because it is particularly if

1750
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: you got a routine and a tailgate group and a

1751
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: season ticket group and a routine of regular friends who

1752
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 1: you're close with and you get to go to have

1753
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: fun with and um, you're gonna have fun even if

1754
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: the game stinks. Uh, it's gonna be a great day out.

1755
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: That's hard to say goodbye to. And thousands upon thousands

1756
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: upon thousands of people are gonna say goodbye to that

1757
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: this year. And that's I think that's that's where it

1758
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: centers around today. I've got I got a new goal

1759
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. It's it's Connors and Tasker fifth

1760
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: Row Duncan Donuts Park for a yard Goats Baseball is

1761
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: on me. I mean, oh on you right, all ninety

1762
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: nine for the tickets, right, I at twenty five dollars

1763
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: ticket to the yard Goats. I am perfect. That is perfect.

1764
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: That is all right. We're gonna We're gonna take a break.

1765
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: We'll be back with some sound from Mitch Morrison, Jordan

1766
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: Poyer in the two o'clock hour, Steve Tasker, Kevin Connors

1767
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: along for the ride. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented

1768
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. We'll be right back. Welcome back

1769
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: to one of Bill's Lives. Chief task for Kevin Connor's

1770
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: ESPN Sports Center anchor co hosting with me today and

1771
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: we had Thad Brown on or in the show. We've

1772
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: been talking to you, our listeners about the policies of

1773
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, the statement just came out yesterday. The Bill said, listen,

1774
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: there's not going to be any fans at either of

1775
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 1: the two home games in September, and then we'll reevaluate

1776
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 1: as things perhaps lighten up, as the landscape changes. And

1777
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: we're asking you what you think about that? Is it right?

1778
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Should there be a uniform policy? What do you think

1779
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: about the NFL's fan policy as it stands right now?

1780
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Each stadium is going to be a little bit different.

1781
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 1: It seems you can give us a call or tweet

1782
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: at us. Also, we're in day I guess this is

1783
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: day nine of Buffalo Bill's training camp and the players

1784
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: after practice are periodically asked to talk to the media.

1785
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: Today it was Jordan Poyer and Mitch Morris. The safety

1786
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: Jordan Poorer. He signed a two year contract extension back

1787
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: in March. He had one hundred and seven tackles last year,

1788
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: four for loss. He had a sack and two interceptions.

1789
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: And they asked Jordan Poyer during the media availability today

1790
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: about the Josh Allen and Stefan Digg's chemistry, how those

1791
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: guys are looking and who would know better than a guy,

1792
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: a defensive back who's been trying to defend them all

1793
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: through training camp. Here's what Jordan Poor You're said about

1794
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the chemistry be between the quarterback and the receiver. It's

1795
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: cool to see, man, It's cool to watch. It's cool to, uh,

1796
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, play against cool. You know they're getting a

1797
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: better each and every day defensively, but you know, to

1798
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: have have a weapon like Diggs that Josh is able

1799
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: to find the ball um you know Digs can run

1800
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: ever seen routing in the route tree. So, uh, you

1801
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's like I said, it's fun to

1802
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: watch it. It's a lot sometimes frustrating on defense. You

1803
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: know when we're in the middle of practice and you

1804
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: know we have one yesterday it was third and twelve.

1805
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, Diggs Diggs running around, got some sticks and

1806
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and kind of big play. So I mean those are

1807
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 1: the type of plays that you know, when we're on

1808
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: the same team. Obviously on it's on Sundays, you know

1809
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: you're cheering for, but you know it can be fresht

1810
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna frustrating for defenses to try to figure out

1811
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,879
Speaker 1: who you're gonna stop. You know. As far as an example,

1812
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, dig Diggs brings a huge competitive aspect to practice.

1813
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: You know, just him one wanting the ball and too

1814
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: when he catches it, he's not gonna he's not just

1815
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: gonna go back to that d lets you know, you know,

1816
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna let you know it's good. And so I

1817
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: mean that fire along right there. You know, it's like

1818
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: when you make a make a play on defense, you're

1819
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: gonna let it, you know, And so you know we're

1820
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: getting after it's been a couple of scuffles, but it's

1821
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: it's all, you know, it's all part of the games,

1822
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: part of the competitive atmosphere. That was Jordan Poyer on

1823
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: the chemistry and what between Josh Allen Steph Diggs and

1824
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: also the attitude that Steph Diggs brings. And one of

1825
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: the things that gets lost in this about the development

1826
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen and these new players that are coming

1827
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: into the into the scene, and particularly a guy like

1828
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs who competes at practice and it's going to

1829
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: elevate the play of everybody around him, and you get it.

1830
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: A young quarterback like Josh Allen who have to practice

1831
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: against the Bill's defense every day, to me, that has

1832
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: to help him. I think you've heard players allude to

1833
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: the fact that the better you practice, the better you play,

1834
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 1: and when you play against really good players, you get better.

1835
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: And I think Josh Allen may benefit from that this

1836
01:34:55,479 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: year because the Bill defense is no joke. Steven use

1837
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: the F word on air here. I mean the one

1838
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 1: the one that stood out to me, the one that

1839
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: the one that Jordan Boyer said frustrating. Yeah, I love

1840
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: I love hearing from a guy on the team that

1841
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is frustrating, and I love it even more

1842
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: given how good this defense is. Business. What that tells

1843
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: me is if he's frustrating, are unit can be frustrating

1844
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot of teams this year. And so it's

1845
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: just it's so encouraging to hear a guy who is

1846
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: perennial Pro Bowl player say that, and you know, because

1847
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: we've lacked that. And that's no knock on the guys

1848
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 1: who were here last year. John Brown, Cole Beasley. We

1849
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: talked about a day the fabulous twenty nineteen seasons, but

1850
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: now you know, now you've got a Ferrari and uh.

1851
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see I can't wait to

1852
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: see games. I can't wait to see that guy in

1853
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 1: a Bill's uniform when you know, when when the bullet

1854
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: start flying for real? Yeah, and you talk about guys

1855
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: acting against each other and getting better. Uh. Jordan Porter

1856
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: was also asked about that, how is it playing against

1857
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: this offense and this offense against this defense. How is

1858
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: it that these two sides of the football can make

1859
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: each other better. We've talked about the attitude of the

1860
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: players that have been added and said, listen, we're gonna

1861
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: compete every day, you better you better play hard and

1862
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: better practice hard. But this is what Jordan Porler had

1863
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: to say about the offense that the Buffalo Bills has

1864
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: and about making the defense better. Here's what he said,

1865
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: of course, and that's the competitive part about it. And

1866
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: that's what makes our team. You know who we are.

1867
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: We got there each day. You know, we can be

1868
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, we're cool in the locker room whatever, but

1869
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: when it's time to line up out there, we're out

1870
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: there competing against each other, trying to make each other better.

1871
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: And like I said, you know, the offense is once

1872
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: and days, defense is once and days. But that's you know,

1873
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: the ultimately, that's that's what going to make us better.

1874
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: And so um, you know, it's like say, it's cool

1875
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: to see the offense grow throughout the years and see

1876
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: where they're at right now, and it's I know, it's

1877
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 1: been an exciting time. Um. You know that's Defensively, you know,

1878
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: our job is trying to get the ball back in

1879
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: Josh's hands. It you know, one of the things one

1880
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: of the misnomers about football that I always found really

1881
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: fascinating for me when I played was that you can

1882
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: really compete hard and aggressive and violently with guys across

1883
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: the ball from you, even in games, even guys that

1884
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: you don't spend every all day, every day with like

1885
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: your own teammates. Um, it's it's always, and I saw

1886
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: other guys do it. I did it myself, and it

1887
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: was It's prevalent even today that you can get guys

1888
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: of this caliber of the Buffalo Bills and the Miami Dolphins,

1889
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Speaker 1: the Jets, the Rams, you name, the NFL players of

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Speaker 1: that caliber to go together and compete as hard and

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01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: as violently as they do and then turn it off

1892
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: at the game when the game's over, and you know,

1893
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 1: the level of respect. People always surprised when I say,

1894
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: you'll see fewer cheap shots in the NFL level than

1895
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: you will at any other level because of the level

1896
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: of respect that guys have for each other. And the

1897
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,879
Speaker 1: league is small, smaller than you know, obviously college football,

1898
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: but it is, it's a level, and it's a it

1899
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: never it never ceased to amaze me how guys really

1900
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Speaker 1: flipped it off, you know, flip the switch off and

1901
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: then turned it back on. Um, you know, they'd help,

1902
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: they'd help a guy up and literally sixty seconds later

1903
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: be given the given the heel of their hand, of

1904
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: the jaw, you know. I mean, it's just that's it's

1905
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 1: an it's a really weird relationship and a startling one

1906
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: when you when you see it up close and personal.

1907
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: And Jordan Pouter, you're talking about the competitive nature about

1908
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: these guys. You know, you live, these guys are friends there,

1909
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, you hang out with them. And their ability

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01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: man to turn it on and compete and you know,

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01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: trash talk and stiff arm each other and push each

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01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: other and tackle each other in live drills and then

1913
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 1: to turn it off. That I think is almost the

1914
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 1: is the most interesting dynamic about pros sports once you've

1915
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: played it and been a part of it, and to

1916
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: see it from other places. Steve, you know, you took

1917
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: the words out of my mouth. It's like, it's it's

1918
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Speaker 1: why sports is as good as anything that we have.

1919
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: And how much could society I don't want to I'm

1920
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: not trying to be Maya Angelo here, right, but how

1921
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: much could society learn from sports where you know, yeah,

1922
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a family environment when you're a

1923
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: part of a team, but there's a competitive respect when

1924
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: you go up against guys. Football is such a great example.

1925
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: You listen to the you know you you were on

1926
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 1: the field, those of us who weren't on the field,

1927
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: gut you get to hear that the viked up segments

1928
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: where Brett Farb gets knocked down and he's slapping the

1929
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: guy on the helmet saying, the heck of a hit

1930
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: right there, you know, or well, you know, I've I've

1931
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: covered a lot of boxing in my time, or or

1932
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: or you know, there's some of the UFC stuff right now,

1933
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: You've got guys who are trying to knock each other's

1934
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: heads off, and then the fight ends and there's an embrace,

1935
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: there's a mutual respect. It's it's for me, like you

1936
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,919
Speaker 1: just said, it's one of the best parts of sports.

1937
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: And boy, I wish that society could could could pick

1938
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: some of that stuff away from it too. Yeah, it's uh,

1939
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: that level of respect doesn't seem to cross out sometimes

1940
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Speaker 1: to cross outside the lines of the sports. Uh, the

1941
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Speaker 1: mutual respect of the combatants um for whatever reason. But

1942
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Speaker 1: it really is there, and I think it's really fun

1943
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: to see. It's it's interesting and it gives people, it's

1944
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Speaker 1: a sense of a camaraderie when they see bitterly opposed

1945
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: opponents on the football field, you know, come back, give

1946
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 1: each other a quick hug after the game, walk off

1947
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: the field, chit chatting about things other than the game. Um,

1948
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing to see sometimes when you when you understand

1949
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: how big and physical and intense their competition is. It's

1950
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. Jordan Poyer also was asked

1951
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: by the scrimmage. They're having a scrimmage this Thursday at tomorrow,

1952
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,799
Speaker 1: there's a big scrimmag I think it's starting about one o'clock.

1953
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Why the show is on. We were I was gonna

1954
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: try and you know, we're gonna try and finagle a

1955
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Speaker 1: way to you know, get a chance to watch it

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01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: or do something from it. But um, it's happening right

1957
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 1: at one o'clock when we're gonna be on the air

1958
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: and they're doing it. It's it's gonna be pretty extensive,

1959
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be sort of to replace a game

1960
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 1: for the roster. They're gonna come out, play some have

1961
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: a game clock, play through, halftime, come back, go in,

1962
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Speaker 1: have a halftime, come back out, get ready to play.

1963
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really extensive. I guess their their day. Um,

1964
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Speaker 1: and it happens tomorrow theoretically, and we'll see if it

1965
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: actually does. But uh where Jordan Porter was asked about

1966
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: a scrimmage of this type being a replacement for a

1967
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: preseason game, And here's what the Bill Safety had to say.

1968
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: You know you would say, I guess you'd say this fineline.

1969
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: Obviously there's guys you know that they don't want to

1970
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: see and have heard you know, I mean, you don't

1971
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 1: want to see anybody. At the same time, you got

1972
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: to prepare yourself to you know, physically and actually to

1973
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: be ready to play in September. An only way of

1974
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: doing that as you know, playing full of speed football.

1975
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: So I said, I think Sean has done a great

1976
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: job of organizing the way he structured training camp so

1977
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: far in orders you know, ready physically and actually to play. So, um,

1978
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna go out there and compete, you know. Obviously,

1979
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: I say, you don't want to see anybody hurt. But

1980
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, you gotta go out there and

1981
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: compete to be ready to playing as a death. Yeah,

1982
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot goes into and I know too that when

1983
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,679
Speaker 1: you're going through it as a player and the coaching

1984
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 1: staff lays out the schedule. I remember it happened to

1985
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 1: me multiple times. With more of Levia's head coaches. You

1986
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: might imagine, Um, he would lay out the schedule, give us,

1987
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 1: not just say hey, here's what we're gonna do. Let's go.

1988
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 1: He'd say, Okay, here's what we're doing. We're doing this,

1989
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: this is a schedule. Here's why. We're gonna do this

1990
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: because of this, and that because of that, And we're

1991
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna schedule this here because of this, and we're gonna

1992
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: do this because of that. And you know, he laid

1993
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: out the whole thing and with the where twos and

1994
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: whys and the reasoning behind it. And I remember, and

1995
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer made me remember that when they lay out

1996
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: that schedules, like that's a great idea. You know, I

1997
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: wish I'd have thought of that, right. Um. A lot

1998
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: of thought goes into the little details of these camps

1999
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: and Jordan Poyer giving kudos to Sean McDermott for making

2000
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: these players feel like they've got a good plan there,

2001
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: and which if you feel like it's a good plan,

2002
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 1: your morale is high and you're ready to execute it.

2003
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a great place for the team to

2004
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: be mentally. And that's what you want from your leaders, right,

2005
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: you know what, You're not always you don't always they

2006
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: don't always owe you an explanation, but it's nice when

2007
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: you get one, right, uh and and look and and

2008
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is this, Steve you you know,

2009
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got to figure out the coaching staff

2010
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 1: has to figure out at some point who were the

2011
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, and the only way you see who were

2012
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: going to win some of these key battles is in

2013
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: the course of a quote unquote game. Obviously, naturally it's

2014
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: it's it's under normal conditions preseason games. But this is

2015
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: the best, next best thing. So I'm going to be

2016
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: locked into the show here tomorrow and also to all

2017
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: of the recaps on you know, on Buffalo bills dot

2018
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: com and all of the all the places where we

2019
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: get our information these days, the athletic too, because I

2020
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 1: think tomorrow is going to be a pretty telling day. Yeah,

2021
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: you can watch this. You can catch us on the

2022
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills app. You can rerun any part of this

2023
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: program on Spotify podcast stuff. You can the Bills app,

2024
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: and also listen to us live on Radio dot Com

2025
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: if you don't have a radio, if you're out of

2026
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: the listening area. You can go to Buffalo to the

2027
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: radio dot com app and do it, or w GR

2028
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: five fifty Sports Radio their website. You can listen to

2029
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: it live as well. You can go back and catch

2030
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 1: any of it in the archives as well on any

2031
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: of those platforms. You're listening to Steve Tasker and Kevin

2032
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Conner on one Bills Live. We're sitting or listening to

2033
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 1: some of the post practice sound from today's practice. We

2034
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: heard Jordan Poyer say, you know, talk a lot about

2035
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: the chemistry the offense competing against the defense, and the

2036
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,839
Speaker 1: plan about this this important practice coming up tomorrow. And

2037
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: we also had Mitch Morris was made available to the

2038
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: media today. The Bills center's coming into his second year

2039
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: with the Bills. He signed a four year deal with

2040
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 1: the Bill's last offseason. And interestingly enough, Mitch Morris down

2041
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of the things that you know, he's

2042
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: got his hands on the ball every play, and when

2043
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: he puts his head up to look around, the guy

2044
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: that's facing him across from him a lot of time

2045
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: seems to be Harrison Phillips. So he was asked about

2046
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips rebounding from his injury of a year ago.

2047
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 1: And here's what Mitch Morse had to say about the

2048
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 1: Bill's defensive tackle. What I've seen from Harris, he's playing strong,

2049
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: he's playing confident, and every day he's building on that.

2050
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 1: A guy who's always taken his role seriously and was

2051
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 1: really struck hard by this and I had to do

2052
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 1: some soul searching. And he's come out and played with

2053
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 1: fire and very proud of him, and he's he's coming

2054
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: back to his old self. Very strong, strong, very strong,

2055
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,040
Speaker 1: really bracing down him those knees of his and trusting it.

2056
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: And it's fun to see. And I think he'd probably

2057
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: say the same thing. That's Mitch Morris on Harrison Phillips,

2058
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: and he's seen him. I mean, he practiced all through

2059
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: training camp last year. Although Mitch Morrise was hampered by

2060
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: injuries last training camp, he knows what Harry Phillips is about.

2061
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: And Harry and if you've got when you're down, and

2062
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you this not for another and

2063
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive tackle, you kind of got to

2064
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 1: be strong. And Mitch Morris mentioned it a couple of

2065
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: times about how strong Harrison Phillips really is playing and

2066
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: it's it's good to hear he has worked extremely hard

2067
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: to come back from that, and not for nothing. I

2068
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: know that radio listeners can't see it, but Mitch Moore

2069
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: sporting a great beard, got a great training camp beard. Man,

2070
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: it looks it looks it looks full, but it also

2071
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: looks well kept, you know what I'm saying. Looks like

2072
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: it's in place. Yes, man, Yeah, hats off to that.

2073
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: That was great. But he did have nice things to

2074
01:46:54,360 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 1: say about Harrison Phillips too. By the way, So Dad,

2075
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: who's listening in on WGR dot com right now is

2076
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: a Stanford man. So I've got I've got a soft

2077
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: spot in my heart for horrible Harry who's a Stanford

2078
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 1: guy himself, and boy Steve. How you know how important

2079
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: is is Harrison Phillips now with Star Latoula lay opting out,

2080
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, on the defensive line, I think his role.

2081
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: You know, suddenly they were hoping he'd be a he'd

2082
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 1: be a quality player here again in twenty twenty. I

2083
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 1: think suddenly the expectations are that much bigger for a

2084
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 1: guy coming off an injury. I think so too. I

2085
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: think he's become I think he probably felt it as

2086
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: well when when Starlot Lay opted out because he's a

2087
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: high risk guy. Um, Harrison said, oh my gosh, this

2088
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: is you know, that's a guy that I've got to

2089
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: help replace, certainly. And I spoke to Harrison once or

2090
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: real briefly in the offseason, having to cross paths at

2091
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: a restaurant, a local restaurant, and I could I spoke

2092
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: to him for just a couple of minutes, but even

2093
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 1: then I could just tell how apprehensive he was about

2094
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: his ability to come back and play well and whether

2095
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: the team wanted him back, and whether they you know,

2096
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: the insecurities of not knowing if you would fit in again,

2097
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: if they could find a place for you. And I

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Speaker 1: certainly a guy with a you know, a humble attitude

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Speaker 1: like that and a work ethic like he's had and

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Speaker 1: to put in the effort he has put into. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't tell him this because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: believe you, but that he's the exact kind of guy

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills want to make a place for. To

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Speaker 1: see him come back and play hard and play well

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Speaker 1: after an ACL injury early last season is really encouraging

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01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 1: and says a lot about his work ethic and the

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Speaker 1: support the Bills training staff has given him over the

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Speaker 1: last nine months. We had there's no question about it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we also we talked a little bit too, and

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Speaker 1: I started to we're about the scrimmage tomorrow. Mitch Morris

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Speaker 1: had this just had you know, was asked about tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: How big a practice? This is? This scrimmage thing? What's this?

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Speaker 1: You know practice? Mean, it's obviously turning out to be

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Speaker 1: an important day tomorrow and a day that's different than

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Speaker 1: the other eight or nine days we've seen of training camp.

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Speaker 1: And here's what Mitch Moore said about tomorrow's scrimmage. Preseason

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Speaker 1: is one of those funny things. You know, first of all,

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Speaker 1: training camp is one of those necessary evils you have.

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Speaker 1: No one really looks forward to training camp. If you do,

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01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: you don't really trust them, you know what I mean.

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01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, it's gnarly. But yeah, preseason games they're

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01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: around for a reason. You know, Coach is gonna put

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01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 1: us in the opportunity to mimic as much of a

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01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 1: game as possible. We're still taking care of our guys,

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01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, we won't be cutting out there, and we're

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Speaker 1: still teammates, so there'll be that fine line of finishing.

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01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time, understand that we're

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01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 1: not going to take shots on our dudes. You know

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01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 1: what I think we'll We'll get dressed a little bit,

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01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: I go through a regular routine and if anything, gets

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: us reacclimated to what it's like and get the new

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01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: guys understanding what a game day is like here and

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01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: even on the road, just because each team is different,

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01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 1: especially rookie's coming to this team, or new guys or

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01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: even US vets who forgot a little bit. So it'll

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01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: be fine, it'll be exciting. But at the same time,

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01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: understand that if you make mistakes, it's okay as long

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01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 1: as we can make them now, you know, I mean

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01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 1: we don't want to make mistakes, no one does. But

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01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: right now is when we work out some kinks, test

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01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 1: some stuff out. You know, the coach are gonna be

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01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: the same thing, put in different positions. You know, coaches

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01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna put us in a game like positions so the

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01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: coaches can make plays and see if they like them

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01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: or not, and US players go out and fly around.

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01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 1: That's Mitch Morris on tomorrow scrimmage. One of the things

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01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: I remember about playing Kevin is that preseason games. The

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Speaker 1: coaches for whatever reason, maybe it's maybe it's the right

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01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: thing to do, I don't know, but they don't make

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: it easy on their players in the preseason. They put

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01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: them and they'll they'll go back and look and they'll

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01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 1: make sure that this player, this young wide receiver, I

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01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: want to see him run this play. He's never run

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01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: it in practice, at least not with the quarterback he's

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01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: running it with today. He's seen it run twenty five times,

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01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: he's watched it on film, he's heard it called in

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01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: the huddle because he's standing right there, but he's never

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01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 1: run it. Let's see him run it. That's kind of

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01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: the discomfort you have on a game day as well,

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01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: because you know what your defense is gonna do. There

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01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 1: your point. You've never seen these guys before. You don't

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01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna look like, how they're gonna play,

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01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: what this guy's good at, what he's not good at.

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01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: And and these preseason games are forgot. You know, you

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Speaker 1: get out there and you're literally running through plays with

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Speaker 1: guys that you know real well, and they've run it

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01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: with other people, but you've never run it together. That's

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Speaker 1: how chaotic the preseason can be and a little bit

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01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: of that seems to be coreographed by the coaches, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna mimic that tomorrow as well. Make

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01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 1: these guys a little bit uncomfortable, particularly the young guys,

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01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: and give him some things there. They may not be

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure about it, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: a great mental exercise that they need to go through.

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Speaker 1: Go through. It's how do you react? You know, how

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: do you react to certain situations? I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a part of it, Steve Right. I mean practice not

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01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: the practice is ever easy, but but I think for

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Speaker 1: the most part, players get used to practice and what's

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01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: asked to them, and it's a familiar thing. But game situations,

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01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 1: when you throw someone into a spot, how do you perform?

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01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 1: You know? And maybe maybe a guy who you were

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01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 1: really high on, given what he can do on the

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01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 1: practice field, maybe you change your opinion on that guy.

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01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: If if again, when the bullets start flying, he turned,

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01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: he's a different decision maker. And maybe and may and

2187
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 1: vice versa. You know, maybe you know, maybe someone surprises you.

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01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Maybe someone how many how many roster spots over the

2189
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: years have been won by guys playing well in preseason games,

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01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: so you've listen, you've got to have this. I think

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01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 1: you've got to for the for the rookies especially, but

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01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:55,759
Speaker 1: even for veterans. You know, as as best you can do,

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: simulate normalcy, simulate a game. And I think that's what

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01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: tomorrow is going to be. I think that's the value

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01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 1: of tomorrow in a lot of different ways. I agree,

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01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,799
Speaker 1: I totally agree. We also have been asking our listeners,

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01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think about not being able

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01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: to see any home games? And Mitch Morse was said,

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01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 1: what is it? Asked, what's it going to be like

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01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: for you as the Bills center to play a game

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01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: with no fans in the stands. Here's what Mitch Morris

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01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: had to say about that. You know, you definitely do

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01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: feed off the crowd. There's no denying that, especially in

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01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 1: a place like Buffalo where the fans are are fantastic

2205
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 1: and they bring the juice, they bring the energy. You know,

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01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be interesting to hear everything that the

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01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: defense is saying. For the most part, they're gonna hear

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01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 1: what we're saying. Yeah, I think the mental aspect of

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01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: the game is going to be so important this year,

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01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: not so much the x's and os, but the psychological

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01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: aspects of it, Understanding yourself, understanding you know at some

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01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 1: flows the game, and how that's going to be different,

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01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 1: just with the crowd and stuff like that. So for me,

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01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 1: communication is going to be extremely important, and not being

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01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,600
Speaker 1: afraid to speak up even with there's no fans, and

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01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 1: not being afraid for the other guys to hear me.

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01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: So it will be such a unique experience vic nothing

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01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 1: like I've ever seen, and I'm sure we'll have a

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01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: lot more insight after that first game, but you know,

2220
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: none of us are quite sure. We just gotta be

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: as flexible as possible. Yeah, it's Mitch Morris any. It's

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01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: interesting too. There's not gonna be any fans in the

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01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: stands because of the pandemic, no question about it. But

2224
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 1: there's also the question I want to get to this

2225
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: next town bite as quickly as I can about what

2226
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 1: the how it's going to be different with their equipment.

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris was asked about wearing a mask while he's playing.

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01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: This is going to be made available to all the players.

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: Most of these guys are like going, I'm not wearing it.

2230
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,720
Speaker 1: It's it's too difficult. I don't like the way it fields,

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01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 1: don't like the way it sounds, don't whatever. And with

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01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: everybody I know, all my teammates being tested positive and

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01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: being virus free, and I expect the other team is

2234
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: going through the exact same protocols. I'm not gonna I'm

2235
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: not gonna make the take the precaution of wearing a mask.

2236
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: But here's what Mitch Morris had to say about the

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: availability of those masks and his preference about whether we're

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01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: to wear one or not. I can only really speak

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: for myself, and I am not whether it be for

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Speaker 1: communication purposes or other than that. You know, I don't

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01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 1: think when the bullets are flying and we're really making

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01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 1: contact and we're in piles of a face mask is

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01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: going to really protect us. That's not a bad thing.

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01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: It's just what I in my opinion, I know some

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01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: teams are and if it makes it a difference, or

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01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 1: even psychologically makes a difference, I think that's fantastic. And

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01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of a safety net and

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01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: us getting tested every day and trusting that guys are

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01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: taking care of themselves outside of the facility. You know,

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Speaker 1: we had that weird thing that happened a few days ago,

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01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: which was anomaly. But it's just the backability. And I

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01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 1: think if guys, if there actually is a correlation that

2253
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: they can prove that it's good, then I'm sure we'll

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01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: wear it. I just haven't heard anything. That's just me

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01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: and uh right now, I'm not That was Mitch Morrison.

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01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break now, not wearing a mask.

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01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 1: And you know that's He's one of the guys that

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01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: you would hear if there were no fans in the

2259
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: stands and the and the game was totally silent. You'd

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01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 1: get to know Mitch Morris's voice very quickly if you're

2261
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: a Bills fan, because you'll hear him on every play

2262
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 1: making line calls at the same time Josh Allen's calling

2263
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 1: the cadence. Um yeah, they job job. Prerequisite for an

2264
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: NFL center is having a nice booming voice. Um. Sure,

2265
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: it's the way it works. So we're gonna come back.

2266
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: We've got a call online too, on Joe. If you

2267
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: hang on, Joe, we're gonna take you right after the break.

2268
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: If you if you got the time, go ahead and

2269
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna take a break. Steve Tasker Kevin

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01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Connor on one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. We'll

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01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: be back after this break. Then take a phone call.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. I fun yat, eat it up, Eating,

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01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: Eat up in the tens, eat up the fun. The

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01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: Hartford yard Goats one, come on out with your fan

2275
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: and come on out with your friends. God, God's baseball,

2276
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: the fun ever, get it out, feeding it out the

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01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: hard fun y eat it up, Wow, eating we gotta go.

2278
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: We're getting where we gotta go. Man, it'll be fun.

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01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 1: The yard Dog, the yard Goats. That is an Hartford

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01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: yard Goat, the Hartford yard Goats. So that that is

2281
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: your local pro sports team, double a baseball team, but

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 1: probably about twenty minutes from where I live in downtown Hartford. Steve,

2283
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, as I promised you, we're going to a

2284
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: game in twenty twenty one, you and me at Duncan

2285
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Donuts Park, all the donuts you can eat. I'm you

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01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: know what, I might even buy you a plush Chompers

2287
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: mascot chompers that you're showing me that it's green. That's

2288
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: a goat that's green with blue horns. Chompers is his name.

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01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Chop Chompers is the boy, I get it. So the

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01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: theme behind it kind of is that yard goats will

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01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 1: eat anything the good You know, you don't eat the

2292
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 1: good times, eat up the fun I got it right.

2293
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: It never ends. That is great the Hartford yard Goats. Okay, well,

2294
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 1: there you go. I'm headed to a baseball game in

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01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, whether I like it or not. We

2296
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 1: got a call. Now, we've we've been, We've covered a

2297
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: multitude of topics. I don't know what Joe is on.

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01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Joe's on the line. He's gonna call, he's gotta I

2299
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 1: don't know what question for us? I guess Joe, what

2300
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 1: have we talked about that you want to talk about?

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01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 1: You're on with Kevin and Steve. What's on your mind?

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01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: Joe fell asleep. I'm sure, Hey, Gay here, Yeah, go ahead, Joe, Yeah,

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01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Also a little bit about me,

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Speaker 1: um seventy years old. Last game I attended was with

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: my son in law. We were seated in the Kelly

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Club right on the fifty yard line. It was a

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01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Monday night game. We were playing Dallas and we went

2308
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: ahead with two minutes left to go on a game,

2309
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: Dallas got the ball back. They drove down Nick Folk kick.

2310
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: I think it was a fifty three yard field goal,

2311
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: and Buffalo ended up losing and cut by a couple

2312
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 1: of points. So I'm used to watching games on TV.

2313
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 1: That's no problem, but it is definitely going to be

2314
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: weird not seeing any fans in the stadium. Now. What

2315
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm hoping is for the TV crew if they can

2316
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 1: focus their cameras so it catches just the playing field

2317
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: and maybe at most the first or second bottom rows

2318
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 1: of the stadium, and not focus on the stadium at

2319
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 1: all as far as the empty seats. That's what I'm

2320
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: hoping for. But I am looking forward to the game.

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02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: I've been locked up since basically staying home since Smart's thirteen,

2322
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to the season and I'm glad,

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02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: glad we're gonna play one way or another. Joe, are

2324
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 1: you do you? Are you a big fan of them

2325
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 1: maybe piping fake crowd noise either onto the broadcast or

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02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 1: maybe in the stadium. What do you think about that?

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02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 1: I think it would give it a more realistic atmosphere,

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02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, especially if they don't show the stands. I

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02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 1: think if they show the stands, then it's empty and

2330
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 1: you've got crowd noise, that's gonna be weird. Yeah, I

2331
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: got you. I think I would like to hear the

2332
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 1: crowd noise, but I definitely don't want to see the

2333
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: empty seats in the stands, and I don't want to

2334
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 1: see cardboard figures, you know, anything strange like that. But

2335
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 1: I am definitely looking forward to the season and I

2336
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 1: think the Bills are gonna gonna have a great year

2337
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: of vision. Well, I appreciate, Joe, thanks for the calls.

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02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. A great deal. I appreciate and thanks sir.

2339
02:00:58,320 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 1: You should come back to a game with the stadium

2340
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: opens back up. That Monday night game is not when

2341
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 1: you want to end your viewing, your live viewing on.

2342
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 1: So come back and watch them, maybe win one. At

2343
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 1: least come to enough games that you see him win

2344
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: one and then you can stop watching, right. I mean,

2345
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: you gotta win on a high you'll leave on a

2346
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: high note. Right. So, Kevin, what do you think? It's

2347
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 1: a difficult combination because they have the technology. Man, they

2348
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 1: can pipe noise into the stadium and they can pipe

2349
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 1: noise onto the broadcast. I'm kind of against it, at

2350
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: least until I see what it looks like without it,

2351
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 1: you know yeah, and you know again, I'm okay. I

2352
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 1: think I'm okay up to a certain point on the broadcast, right. So,

2353
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 1: but but the key is, and listen, Steve, it's this

2354
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 1: is not easy to do. The key is going to

2355
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: be can you make it seem real? Because I'll tell

2356
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 1: you what, the first time it doesn't seem real, or

2357
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 1: the guy whose job it is to hit the cheer

2358
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 1: button is a second or too late, you're going to

2359
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 1: notice it. So if we can do it, and we

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02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: can pull it off and make it seem natural, then

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02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. And I'll tell you one other

2362
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 1: thing I'm okay with. I've grown to become okay with

2363
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the cutout cardboard. I'd rather see the

2364
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: cardboard cutouts in the seats than empty seats, like Joe

2365
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: was saying, I can't see a wide shot of the stadium.

2366
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna look weird. So if we've got to live

2367
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:21,080
Speaker 1: with that, which is kind of what we're doing in

2368
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: many Major League Baseball parks, I can live with that.

2369
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't. I don't want to see

2370
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 1: the virtual fans. I don't know that we need to

2371
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 1: have the crowd noise pumping actually in the stadium, but

2372
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 1: on the broadcast. I think I'd be okay with it.

2373
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Here's my point. And if the stands are going to

2374
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 1: be empty, which it seems like they are, I would

2375
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 1: say that the CBS, NBC, ESPN, NFL network, CBS should

2376
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 1: use it to their advantage. Put cameras in places where

2377
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 1: they've never been allowed to be anymore because there are

2378
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: fans sitting there. Put them low on the sideline, put

2379
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 1: them you know, eight rows up and put a bunch

2380
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 1: of them in there. Put a bunch more cameras in there,

2381
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 1: and they don't even have to be manned, you know.

2382
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 1: Put a put a camera on the goal line all

2383
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:15,200
Speaker 1: the time, and put a goal line, you know, above

2384
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 1: the goal, you know, above the goal post, you know,

2385
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, show me the stadium from all angles that

2386
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 1: you can't get to because people are in the way

2387
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:25,760
Speaker 1: most of the time. You know, use it to our

2388
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,320
Speaker 1: advantage for the broadcast. Get some angles that you don't

2389
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 1: normally or never will be able to get again, and

2390
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 1: show us something different. Um. I think that's one direction

2391
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 1: I would go for the broadcast partners. Don't know if

2392
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 1: the league would like it, But who cares. They can

2393
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 1: They can put their cameraman sitting in section one twenty two.

2394
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be by himself anyway, and he's gonna be stations,

2395
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, or just strap a camera to the back

2396
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 1: of the seat. Nobody will care um something like that.

2397
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: That's what I would do if I were the NFL

2398
02:03:56,440 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 1: and the broadcast partners, is give camera angles and shots

2399
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 1: of the game that normally you wouldn't be able to

2400
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 1: do because of the fans. I think that's another idea

2401
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: to go down. Steve how Neat has it been seeing

2402
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: in the NBA anyone who's watched an NBA playoff game

2403
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 1: that camera that sort of is on the track that

2404
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 1: runs along the courts, so you're almost literally eye level

2405
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 1: with the players. You're right, and you know, listen, Necessity

2406
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 1: is a mother of inventions. So we may come out

2407
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 1: of this thing with some advances in TV that we

2408
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 1: had no idea we were going to get, but they

2409
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 1: happened because of the time that we're in. So you know, look,

2410
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: in a tough situation, maybe there are some positives to

2411
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 1: come out of it. That's right. So without fans in

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02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 1: the stands, what do you think is it going to

2413
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 1: be fair? Do you wish it was? What are your

2414
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the Bills not allowing fans

2415
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: for the at least for September into Bill's stadium, and

2416
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,600
Speaker 1: what do you think about the NFL's fan policies as

2417
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:55,000
Speaker 1: it pertains to the stadiums across the NFL. We've got

2418
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:58,400
Speaker 1: some feedback from Louis. He says this. Although it saddens

2419
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:00,839
Speaker 1: me not being able to attend the first two games,

2420
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:03,160
Speaker 1: I know it's for the sake of US fans. What

2421
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 1: really frustrates me, like coach McDermott, is the fact that

2422
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 1: it should be the same ruling for all thirty two teams.

2423
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 1: I get it, it should be. It should be the

2424
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 1: same policy for all thirty two teams. Should it not

2425
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 1: if you want to be fair that the level playing

2426
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 1: field is different. But I get this too. We've had

2427
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Brant on our show a number of times. You know,

2428
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 1: he's a great one on the business and sports. He

2429
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 1: ran the Packers for a whole decade, so he knows

2430
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 1: how the NFL works and when push comes to shove,

2431
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 1: money always wins the shoving match. So if you've got

2432
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: these teams particularly and we had it in one of

2433
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,560
Speaker 1: our other from our very first tweet of the day

2434
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 1: from one of our listeners. They said, listen, you get

2435
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,680
Speaker 1: a town like Buffalo or Green Bay, every penny you

2436
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 1: can make makes a difference for that franchise. They're not

2437
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:01,879
Speaker 1: like the Dallas Cowboys, who can you know, a suite

2438
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 1: for six or seven digits. You know, that just doesn't

2439
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 1: happen here. Every time you go a game without, you know,

2440
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: generating that revenue, it's the body. It hits the It

2441
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:15,400
Speaker 1: hits hard financially for the team. So if these clubs

2442
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 1: can have five hundred, one thousand, ten thousand people in

2443
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 1: the stadium, you gotta let them do it and pay

2444
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 1: whatever the market will bear. I get that argument, but

2445
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: certainly it's against what the NFL stands for. Revenue sharing.

2446
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 1: The last the worst teams get to draft first, the

2447
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 1: worst the last team in the division gets to play

2448
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:38,240
Speaker 1: the last team in the other division next season, and

2449
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 1: the first place team has to play the first place team.

2450
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 1: The level playing field has always been a hallmark of

2451
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 1: what has made the NFL great. This does not ring

2452
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 1: true to that philosophy. I agree with all the points

2453
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 1: you just made. It's got to be uniformed. Steve Right,

2454
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got listen, it's you we can't have

2455
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:04,320
Speaker 1: because you lucked out and your state is a safer

2456
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 1: area that you get to have an advantage that that

2457
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 1: another team can. That's that's just that's a bad look

2458
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:12,840
Speaker 1: for the league. I think until we're at a point

2459
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,960
Speaker 1: where we feel comfortable and I'm advocating for fans coming

2460
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 1: back at some point, not eighty thousand seat capacity full,

2461
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:22,839
Speaker 1: but maybe we can get as we talked about, fifteen

2462
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 1: thousand in the stadium if everyone goes about it the

2463
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 1: right way. But boy, can you can you imagine the

2464
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:32,480
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what we would be hearing from from

2465
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: players and coaches and executives about we went down there

2466
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 1: and they've got it's a completely totally different advantage that

2467
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 1: they have. I think that there's got to be uniformity

2468
02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 1: in a league where you know, you're looking for every

2469
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 1: competitive advantage that you can get. I just can't see

2470
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: it being a fair situation where Dallas can have fans

2471
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: but Buffalo can. That doesn't seem to make a lot

2472
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 1: of sense to me. A lot of people would agree

2473
02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 1: with you, and it might be one time where the

2474
02:07:58,280 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 1: economics of the NFL loses out to fairness. Don't hold

2475
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 1: your breath, but it could. It could. Steve Tasker Kevin

2476
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 1: Connor back after the break with what do We learn

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Speaker 1: and also to give you an idea of what's on

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Speaker 1: the lineup for tomorrow's show. Coming back right after the break,

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Speaker 1: the program. Thad Brown, Sports director of w r OCTV

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Speaker 1: and Rochester, who's been watching training camp practice, had this

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Speaker 1: to say about the rookie wide receiver Gabriel Davis. He's

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Speaker 1: just been, you know, unbelievable. And it's not just the

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02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 1: fact that he's had, you know, a few good days.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's always that camp all star, and very

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Speaker 1: often it's the receiver you don't know about because well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, there's not much tackling or hit so

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Speaker 1: the guys who are catching the passages will stand out.

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Speaker 1: But you know, these guys will also to make a play.

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Speaker 1: Maybe two days a week or one have a great practice.

2493
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:10,960
Speaker 1: We gave Davis it's been every single day. You know.

2494
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 1: There's two plays here, one physical catch here, the one

2495
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 1: we're watching right now with Trey White. I was very

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Speaker 1: impressed by because he not only beat Trey White White

2497
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Speaker 1: not right off the line, but then was able to

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Speaker 1: win the physical battle with him on the ground. Davis

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02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,120
Speaker 1: has been We expect him to be a physical receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's been that. But the quicks have been there too,

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02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 1: at a level that I did not expect. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: everything that everybody's saying about gave Davis. I will just

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Speaker 1: you know, put my underline in my highlight two and agree.

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Speaker 1: That was Tad Brown on what we learned, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks. Kevin. I can't tell you how fun

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02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:44,080
Speaker 1: it's been to have you on the show for the

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Speaker 1: last two days. You've been an absolute standout and it's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. I can't wait for us

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Speaker 1: to go to our yard Gooat game in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: At some point. It'll be fun. That'll be fun as well.

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Speaker 1: What time of year should should we plan our trip?

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Speaker 1: Is it in the spring early in the game year,

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Speaker 1: or should we wait till the heat of summer? Any

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Speaker 1: of the above? You want to get here early. We'll

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Speaker 1: make it for opening day. You want to do it

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the summer, We'll plan for an evening,

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Speaker 1: you know, weekend evening game or something like that. Let's

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Speaker 1: get you to see Hartford here, get you over to

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Speaker 1: ESPN and and get you this this this Chompers plush toy,

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Speaker 1: which I know you'd love to add to your collection, Steve,

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Speaker 1: but I cannot. I want to say this in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: it's been a blast that it's been an honor to

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Speaker 1: be on here, sharing the show with you and and

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris, our great producer. This is the longest Bills

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Speaker 1: conversations that I've had in a long time, so so

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Speaker 1: I've really I've really enjoyed these past two days. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, and you are welcome back anytime tomorrow. We've

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Speaker 1: got Leg Doozable, former Bills defensive lineman. He's going to

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Speaker 1: co host with me as well. Also from CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: Chris Trprasso Trepasso, who has done some big time predictions

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Speaker 1: for the upcoming season. Steve Tasker, along with Kevin Connors.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, everybody. This has been

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live Present by Khalid to health on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Radio thanks to Jay Harris, Jeff colten, Act,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rood and Thomas Hollander. Thanks everybody, we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow.