WEBVTT - Anal Salty Weiner Bugers (feat. Sydnee Washington)

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think to to fuck and be good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's harder than being good in a relationship because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do both. Baby, if I'm funny, you real good,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you I'm not cooking, I'm not cleaning,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's where we're at it. Frand do you

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<v Speaker 1>do a good sexy baby voice? I mean my sexy

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<v Speaker 1>baby voices essentially my Julia Fox impression. You're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, yeah, can you have a little more

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<v Speaker 1>vocal fry to that? That's pretty good and also very

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<v Speaker 1>topical because today we are talking about the queen of

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<v Speaker 1>baby voices, vocal fry, and social media. We are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Paris Hilton, her impact on pop culture and the

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<v Speaker 1>simple life and joining us to do it is a

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<v Speaker 1>host of Peak two thousand's Sydney Washington, amazing hilarious comedians

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<v Speaker 1>in our podcast role. She's so good at the commentary,

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<v Speaker 1>has been on the comedy scene for quite sometime and

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the comedians comedian Like every comedian you

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<v Speaker 1>will ever meet, especially in the queer space, loves Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and we love her too, and we're so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to deconstruct Harris Hilton Today because this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>virgin the show where we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rose, damn you, and I'm Fran Toronto. That's hot,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hot living. Are you sliving? No? Absolutely not. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not slaying and living. Never in my life would I slive.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw two movies this week that are in contention

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<v Speaker 1>for a Movie of the year. Okay, what were they? Roasts?

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<v Speaker 1>So the first one, which is, if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>is what will truly win? It was down Nabby a

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<v Speaker 1>new era. I know you're not an I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a down to Nista. I'm not. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be shady about it, though, thank you. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. I I would never put disrespect on Dowton Nabby's name. Never.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible. It was so fun. I remember nothing

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<v Speaker 1>from the first Downton Nabby movie and did not finish

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<v Speaker 1>the series. I fell off around season four because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a die hard Matthew Girly. Yeah, Matthew dies at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of season three. Are there after his child is born?

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<v Speaker 1>They're like long episodes, right, and is it like how

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<v Speaker 1>many episodes per season? Like twenty six no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's British TV. So they're always like, even

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<v Speaker 1>before American TV was doing ton episode seasons, British TV

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<v Speaker 1>was already doing that, so they're pretty sure you can

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<v Speaker 1>get through them very quickly. But they usually do a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas special. The Christmas special at the end of season

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<v Speaker 1>two Reigns Supreme, that's the one where Mary and Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>finally get together, and I do watch it every Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>But the movie was so good, so fun, the girls

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<v Speaker 1>were girling, there was gay stuff, there was a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to the French riviera. I screamed several times. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the other film I saw that could be movie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year is Top Gun Maverick Um. It's a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of similar situation and that I was missing crucial info

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<v Speaker 1>about the source material, but it was a more glaring

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<v Speaker 1>hole because I have never seen the original Top Gun, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But we were together the night before at our friend

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<v Speaker 1>La Las, and we put on the original Top Gun

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<v Speaker 1>and La La fast forwarded through I would say, nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of it, so we could watch cumulatively about two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of so like the volleyball scene, which there is

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<v Speaker 1>a call back to in the sequel, but but they

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<v Speaker 1>played football, and it's it's as if there is a

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<v Speaker 1>watermark across the film that says, no homo on it,

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<v Speaker 1>no homo um. Filmed by Bruce weber Um. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was so fun. The action was really good. Tom Cruise

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. Jennifer Connolly's hair was disgusting. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the highlights were awful and there were these huge barrel curls.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just not right. But everyone in it was

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<v Speaker 1>really hot and it did not matter at all that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know what happened in the first one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a question for heterosexual culture,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know why I'm asking it, But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what the hype around this movie is

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<v Speaker 1>because Top Gun is like everyone's favorite movie, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have no doubt that it's a good movie, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just every time I try and watch it, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>really latch on. And everyone's saying this sequel is phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 1>So like I kind of I kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>go watch it just to hop on. But like when

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<v Speaker 1>La La gave us her famed, you know, abridged version

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie, um, I I was just like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I still don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's super fun. I don't think you specifically

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<v Speaker 1>need to see it in theaters, but I think six

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<v Speaker 1>months from now, watch it on a plane. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. Okay, Yeah, it's a plane movie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a plane movie. It's well, it's literally a movie about planes.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be perfect to watch on a flight. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I must call you and I must call you in

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<v Speaker 1>You've named two movies that were contenders for Movie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year, and yet we saw another movie together this

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<v Speaker 1>week that you did not include, and that is Fire Island,

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<v Speaker 1>which is coming out on third You're right, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not name, not as movie of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>when I was going to call it movie of the Summer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sary different thing of the millennium, of the millennium.

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<v Speaker 1>Jolkin Booster is sitting at home right now listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast in the shower. Yeah you look so hot

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Joel. Fine, because Tom Cruise is actually in

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<v Speaker 1>the shower with Joel sucking him off, not his fan fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yes, fran and I had the extreme privilege

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<v Speaker 1>and pleasure of going to a special advanced screening of

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<v Speaker 1>Fire Island last week at the Director's Guild of America

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<v Speaker 1>in a very large theater filled with fagot filled with gays.

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<v Speaker 1>We were not sure we were at the location, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we saw a couple of miss Honeys strutting across sunset,

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew we were in the right place. But

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the film and it was I think the

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<v Speaker 1>first time the cast had seen it in a theater

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<v Speaker 1>full of people, which was another privilege. Yes, and also

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<v Speaker 1>the cast was there was great to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the girls Joel Matt Bowen Fran did not know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Pride and Prejudice adaptation, No I did, I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I did, but maybe the virgins do. Um. Fire Island

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<v Speaker 1>is is um, you know, a new take on Pride

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<v Speaker 1>and Prejudice, written by Joel Can Booster who also plays

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. He and his group of you know, good

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<v Speaker 1>judies go to Fire Island every summer to stay with

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<v Speaker 1>their you know mother figure played by Margaret cho and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of you know, romcom shenanigans. It was

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<v Speaker 1>delish and I, you know, I did know as a

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<v Speaker 1>Pride and Prejudice adaptation, but I had not revisited Pride

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<v Speaker 1>and Prejudice. The movie in life, so I couldn't really

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<v Speaker 1>remember any of the different characters, and I actually need

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the care a version tonight TVH. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say down the line, Joel a leading man.

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<v Speaker 1>I was swept away, sexy, charismatic, leading man, had amazing

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry with his co star who is the guy from

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<v Speaker 1>How to Get Away with Murder but also a flawed character,

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<v Speaker 1>a character that you kind of see flaws in and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sure if they're going to be reconciled, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there they come to fruition in a really beautiful way.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Bowen was phenomenal. Bowen was Bowen is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a movie star. They're all going to be there

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<v Speaker 1>to bear by. I was so moved by Bowen's performance.

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<v Speaker 1>He was funny, he was so vulnerable. His scenes were

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<v Speaker 1>definitely some of the more emotional ones. He and Joel

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<v Speaker 1>their their real life friendship translated so well into their

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<v Speaker 1>on screen relationship. Um and then Matt Roger's friend of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, who was on last week. If you haven't listened,

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<v Speaker 1>please go do Um like stole every scene he was

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<v Speaker 1>in CHEW. I mean, did not miss a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>make every line count, make get every laugh. He was

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<v Speaker 1>so funny, and matt se partner Tamas Matos, was just

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<v Speaker 1>like so fun They were these kind of two like

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<v Speaker 1>gay idiots that are like always in your friend group. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret Trow was phenomenal. I wish that I had like

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<v Speaker 1>a matriarch of my Fire Island house like her. The

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<v Speaker 1>villain of this movie Hilarious is exactly to fill in

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the villain you want out of a movie called

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<v Speaker 1>Fire Island like that was so well done. And then, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>James Scully, the heart throb of the movie and Bowen's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of romantic interest, plays this character that, like on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>is someone that like I don't want to funk with,

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<v Speaker 1>like someone who is emotionally manipulating me or taking me

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<v Speaker 1>for granted, or I have so many reasons to hate

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<v Speaker 1>this character, and James forces you to fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>with this person with his gooey puppy dog eyes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of heart throbs. Conrad Rick Amorra, who plays Foles

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<v Speaker 1>love interest, I thought was an excellent Mr Darcy so

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<v Speaker 1>very cold, but you know his scenes with Joel especially,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one scene where they're dancing together at the underwear party,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like very hot. And this movie does the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I was the most interested to see how

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<v Speaker 1>the movie would do, which was capture the essence of

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<v Speaker 1>Fire Island as a place and make it into a

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<v Speaker 1>character in and in and of itself. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you can call a movie fire Island unless you

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<v Speaker 1>really feel the presence of the location. And as people

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<v Speaker 1>who have spent a lot of time there, I think

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<v Speaker 1>like we can comfortably say that Joel and the director

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<v Speaker 1>did such an amazing job of letting people who have

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<v Speaker 1>been in that space, like I feel like they're in

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<v Speaker 1>on the joke and like they're seeing like a real

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<v Speaker 1>version of what that place is like. And also I

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<v Speaker 1>think capturing in a way that people who have never

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<v Speaker 1>been there will will very much get the vibe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, you know, if I didn't know anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, like I would probably look at the Fire

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<v Speaker 1>Island promo and be like a whole movie about Fire Islands,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's no I can trust that this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be done in a way that I'm going to enjoy,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, but like this movie perfectly encapsulates the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there are two different kinds of trips. You

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<v Speaker 1>can have on the island, and one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with you know, whiteness and body fascism and elitism

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<v Speaker 1>and like really toxic standards of like how you fuck

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<v Speaker 1>people and stuff like that. And then the other is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nice dinner around like a cozy little environment

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<v Speaker 1>where women are present, you know, like God forbid. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I went to High Tops after the screening

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<v Speaker 1>to chat with like Joel and Bowen and Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>like all the folks that had gone after, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about that kind of just like bizarre thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happens on the island where we all just become

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<v Speaker 1>worm brained and like fixated on like fucking for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of like it creates this really like

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<v Speaker 1>hideous kind of mindset. Um. And I I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>um when every time I've gone to Fire Island, I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone with all of my faggot friends. We like go

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<v Speaker 1>in heels, like general conforming swimsuits, and like we like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, break our way into like grinder

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<v Speaker 1>parties and like places we don't really want to be in,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's fun to just go and take up space

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<v Speaker 1>even if we don't belong. And I never really thought

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<v Speaker 1>that I personally was going to be represented by this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really did feel that. Also complete side note,

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<v Speaker 1>High Tops has amazing food. I cannot stress enough that

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<v Speaker 1>High Tops in West Hollywood has hand dipped corn dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>trays of nachos that could feed this country. Okay, will

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<v Speaker 1>Caesar salad that has Marcona almonds, which is the most

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<v Speaker 1>expensive almond that money can buy. Rows it is cannot

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wait for the Fire Island sequel West Hollywood, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Fay Tops is prominently prominent location. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we still don't know what the song in the

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<v Speaker 1>Summer is going to be, but one contender is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the new Rena say Alma song This Hell, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like country vibes. Joanne Goes to the Underworld. Joanne Goes

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<v Speaker 1>the Underworld. That's a really good seal. Yes. Oh, also

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<v Speaker 1>drag Race Frand and I watched it together on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think will be the last time we watched

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<v Speaker 1>together for a while because she's about to go to

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<v Speaker 1>New York for a month, sad for me. The main

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<v Speaker 1>takeaway of this episode, even though I am enjoying this

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<v Speaker 1>season of television, is that it's really hard to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the judges be completely barred from making a negative critique.

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<v Speaker 1>It is insane. It's really are old me saying complimentary

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<v Speaker 1>things barely even anything that is a borderline constructive criticism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just like I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an all winner season. I'm sure it was part

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<v Speaker 1>of why these queens even said yes, is they were

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<v Speaker 1>told that they would not be dragged for their performance.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is it just feels like so dissonant because

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<v Speaker 1>some people are not performing. Well, yeah, some people aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I, you know, I don't need to see

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<v Speaker 1>these girls get taken down. I just want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the judges say what's on their mind. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you can give a negative critique while still being constructive.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, I need to get on the reddit boards

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it must have taken a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to convince the judges that they're not allowed to make

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<v Speaker 1>negative critiques, Like that's insane. Well you have fun on

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<v Speaker 1>the drag race reddit boards. That's the place I would

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<v Speaker 1>truly rather I I'm really to be honest, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. I'm just gonna make Justin do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Our our friend Justin really is the Reddit board queen

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<v Speaker 1>and and he'll fetch information and bring it back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But speaking of conspiracy theories, I finished the new season

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<v Speaker 1>of Stranger Things finished, finished how many hours? It's because

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<v Speaker 1>I had watched the first four episodes like three months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had access to them at work obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>very fun season. I do like, I get splitting them

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<v Speaker 1>and the need for a cliffhanger. Um, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>just like at the end of the season, did feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I wanted one. I wanted one more. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a little bit more wrapping up than what we got.

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<v Speaker 1>But we only have to wait until July, I think

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<v Speaker 1>for part two of season four. Also, France hasn't gotten

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<v Speaker 1>there yet. You've only watched the first two episodes, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>but will you at least know that in the first episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Max is listening to Kate Bush. Yes, this does a

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Bush moment return, Oh honey, don't. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler free conversation. Spoiler free conversation, but I will just

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<v Speaker 1>say this, Kate Bush is so powerful. This is something

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<v Speaker 1>we have always known to be true, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to see it confirmed on on television. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>boring to like talk about how good this show is,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I will say that, like I am continually

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<v Speaker 1>blown away by how cinematic and like the theatrical quality

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<v Speaker 1>that every single episode brings. This season is really scary,

0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.240
<v Speaker 1>though like it's not it's not scary, okay, okay, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of if if the if the Virgins cant,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not found it scary, and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is important context for the Virgins. If you are a

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<v Speaker 1>Rose stranger, things really not that scary. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a Ran and your threshold of scariness is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>slightly lower, if not a lot lower, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a really really graphic, spooky, spooky season.

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<v Speaker 1>I I mean, like every season is there are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>there are thrills and chills, and all of every season

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<v Speaker 1>brings thrills and chills, But for some reason, I never

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. I always just remember like the action sequences

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<v Speaker 1>and how like kind of heartwar member body knows exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the way, Millie is like God, her character

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<v Speaker 1>is breaking my heart over and over again. Oh um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say the lesbian character got a slightly

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<v Speaker 1>slightly more lesbian haircut, which I appreciate. Um, I it

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<v Speaker 1>could be more like, it could be choppier. And did

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<v Speaker 1>you notice that the girl that she has a crush

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<v Speaker 1>on is and from and with an E fuck off

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<v Speaker 1>with the funk all the way off? Did you notice

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<v Speaker 1>that there was that one cop um in the second episode?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was played by that the guy from

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<v Speaker 1>Search Party. Yes, the lead from Search Party. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he has been the for the whole show. Oh he

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<v Speaker 1>has been. He was phenomenal. I I he he fits

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<v Speaker 1>so perfectly into like a thrills and chills genre. I

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<v Speaker 1>love thrills and chills, Mama, That's what the summer is

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<v Speaker 1>all about. Also, um, some personal news moment um, I

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<v Speaker 1>recently left my job at Netflix. Um. I've been working

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<v Speaker 1>there for a little over two years doing l g

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<v Speaker 1>B t Q plus audience work, and now I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to just like be me a full time I guess

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<v Speaker 1>free agent. Yeah, so um, you know, obviously still doing

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, but like I I think for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in a while, am open up to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of new opportunities, whether that's like writing for TV, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like doing a column somewhere, working on a book. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that to anyone listening. If you work

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<v Speaker 1>in any of those worlds, Um, my d M s

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.719
<v Speaker 1>are open. I'm sure you could figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to email me or contact me, um and feel free

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<v Speaker 1>to do so. Yes, higher, Rose, actually hire both of us.

0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 1>To hire both of us, hire both. We're writing partners.

0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 1>We're a package deal. You can't hire one without the other.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it goes. You're like, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. Um. Yeah, So in case,

0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.720
<v Speaker 1>in case, any virgin has been listening to the past,

0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like however, you know thirty whatever episodes and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>wondering why we almost never talk about Netflix intellectual property,

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<v Speaker 1>now you know? Um yeah, Rose, that's really it. Rose

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<v Speaker 1>quit so that she could talk about stranger things on

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the podcast I did. I was really the only I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get to freely say something nice about stranger things. Yes, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>say something actually very complimentary about like how is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great season of television? Um. I just have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who has quit their job three times in

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<v Speaker 1>a very dramatic way, with no job to land on,

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.240
<v Speaker 1>to be a freelance girl, to follow your dreams and aspirations,

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.919
<v Speaker 1>I have never in my life regretted it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are sitting at home and thinking about quitting your job,

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>do it, like I. I cannot recommend it enough. Work sucks,

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Every job sucks. We were not born to work, we

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 1>were born to live, and being your own boss is

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<v Speaker 1>like the only way to do life period. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>every time I've quit my job, it has been phenomenally hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been difficult. It's been like, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>money level, on the work ethic level, on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the mental health level, in every different terrain. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. But I've never regretted it. And um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to say I'm so proud of you, Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that you're a model uh for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else on here to to to do the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you love, which is never report to anyone. Could never

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<v Speaker 1>be on slack ever again, Yes, or I could just

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<v Speaker 1>be a model if you need me for a Pride campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, getting it in at the last minute, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am available. The great resignation has begun. I will

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<v Speaker 1>predict for Pride actually that there are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of post Pride campaigns, Like I think the

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<v Speaker 1>girls are going to be launching things July one and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be I think the corporations are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, we celebrate Pride sixty five days a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's our campaign, blah blah blah. Like that's my kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like trend alert for the summer. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about early odds culture and who is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a patron saint of the early odds than Paris Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of to blame for most of the things

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 1>currently wrong with our society. Absolutely, But I don't think

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>she was thinking about that at the at the time.

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I think she was truly being an icon by being

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<v Speaker 1>herself in all totality, like she's I'm doing anything and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's going to make sure that I'm at the

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<v Speaker 1>top and that people are gonna be talking about me

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 1>and people are gonna know I'm going to have like

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<v Speaker 1>an empire. So she did the damn thing. Was your

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<v Speaker 1>entryway into her the simple life? Yes? Yes, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I really really. It's annoying, like on paper, it's like

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 1>these rich girls have to do normal people things and

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<v Speaker 1>be with the pores. That's gross. But they were funny

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and they were they were and they understood the assignment

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.159
<v Speaker 1>and they weren't like rude about it, and they're like, listen,

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.880
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be for everybody. And they were very

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<v Speaker 1>much themselves but also hilarious. So we can't be mad

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>at that. We just we can't. And I didn't grow

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<v Speaker 1>up watching it, but like The Simple Life really was

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like a product of like reality TV at that time,

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>and you were saying, like, on paper, this is really gross.

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 1>But like when he came out, like no one was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about like classes or thinking about like whiteness, white women,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the way that we talk about them now,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I think that there is a world where

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<v Speaker 1>in like something like The Simple Life could exist in

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenties, but like not in the way that

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they were doing it. You know, would have to be commenting.

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't I think either people for it to have

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<v Speaker 1>worked when it did, they had a type of self

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>awareness that allowed them to do the bullshit that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>But also they're like, I'm not going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>out of out of control like a chet Hanks or whatever, like,

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>but if we do it now, people are too woke,

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>so even there to work where there there's no self

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 1>awareness and the whole time, and it won't and you

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 1>could just tell when things are curated and not like

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't just roll off their time, because Harris and

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Nicole were very much willing to um, they were in

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on the joke, They were willing to be the joke,

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and they definitely were willing to laugh at themselves, which

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 1>is they look very stupid and a lot of the

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>show absolutely and they like I think that Harris Nicole's

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>self awareness actually evaded a lot of people, Like a

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of people thought that they were genuinely dumb and

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like even like, um, like I remember, like I was,

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what clip I was watching, but like

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>people you know what I mean, Like because they weren't that.

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that you know, they're both probably

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a little dumb, but like I think that when they

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>want watching this back, didn't realize that it's like a

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>full character, and like Harris kind of did because I

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like in recent years she has talked more about

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>how she was playing a character. Although maybe that's like

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a bit of Rhett Conning. Yeah no, that's that's her

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>publicists telling like that, that's her whole team, Like no, no, no, no,

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>they it was a bit. It was a bit like

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>nobody knew about bits back then. I also think it

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>does help that in the when the first season came out,

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they were not extremely famous like they were. You know,

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously these very privileged women going into this situation. But

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 1>it's not like if I worked on a farm today

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and they sent I don't know who is the like

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Addison Ray, and I was like, I just saw you

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok and now you're at my farm. It wasn't

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>so here's the Obviously Paris is like the primordial influencer,

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>but like, I actually feel like she was more of

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a I think that what she was famous for right

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>before The Simple Life was a lot of like New

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>York socialite stuff like Kelly ben Simone era, like who

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>else was like a New York socialite type, And because

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>like New York socialites, I just think of early real

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>house life of New York kind of because New York

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>socialites that was like an era that doesn't really exist.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>It was actual, but like people don't write about socialites

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the way they used to. Like socialites in New York

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>used to be these kind of like nano influencer types

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that everyone knew about, at least at the metropolitan level,

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but they were not like famous, No. I think what

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Blue Paris up was. She did a photo shoot with

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>in her grandma's house and it was, I mean, the

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>clothes non existent, the makeup, hair, I mean tracks showing

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>like it was, oh my god, the hair extension incredibly clocky.

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But but I love that because it was they were like,

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we are not perfect. We don't want to be perfect.

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>The eyeline, eyeliner is going to be smudge. I mean,

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the die job not that good. The artifice was the point.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you, Spoiled Princess, like low rise

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>brat Stall aesthetic is now like that. It is like

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>fully the aesthetic you know it is, but you're also

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at them like girl, but it's they're not They're

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.239
<v Speaker 1>not owning it. It looks like a costume. But like

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>then it actually felt like a vibe We're gonna walk,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna rock this all day. This is not just

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>for a particular party. This is the look for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Early as mid drift culture was like a full moment,

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>like every single celebrity at the time had like the

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>little like inch and a half of like you know,

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>middrift showing mid drift, but we're doing belly button rings. Um.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 1>And at that time people could actually have like hips,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like wide hips, and like the stomach's just looked real.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like I was so close to being

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>one of those girls, even though we're not in the

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>same like class or socio economic status or whatever. I

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>felt like I could dress like Paris and Nicole and

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>almost be like two steps away from being them. Harris

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and Nicole were wearing like juicy guitar, which like you

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>could go to the mall and buy, and were they

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing Abercrombie and Fitch theah, oh my god. I uh

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>so you were talking about how like you were drawn

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to the aesthetic when you first started watching. Is there

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>anything else about Simple or just Paris Hilton in general

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that you were like drawn to or you remember kind

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 1>of connecting with. Well, it was it was also like

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the friendship too, because it was like Paris by herself,

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you like, Paris is the bitch, but Paris next to Nicole, Oh,

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>actually she's not really a bit. You know. They bring

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>out they bring out like really good sides of each other.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>They do like Sillin Bill the like son of Song

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Song and those are my favorite moments of the show

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>when they were like teaming up and you know, they

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>were it was like them on one side in the

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>world on the other it wasn't. It was just like that.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>You can see that in any type of like friendship vibe,

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like there's always the one that's more alpha,

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and then there's another one that's like, Okay, I kind

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of do whatever you want me to do. And I

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>even though at that time I didn't have like a

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>best friend like Paris, I kind of went into college

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like hoping that I would find my Paris. Did you

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>know I was a smotor I was one of those

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>people that just couldn't stick to one group. I guess

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I always wondered with Harrison Nicole and you know, their

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>their feud is a huge part of the legacy of

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>their friendship was how much of it was real and

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>how much of it was. Like they cast Paris and

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they were like, do you have a friend who would

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>work for this? And she picked Nicole, and then she

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>had another there was Nicole wasn't first pick. She was

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the first pick. Kimberly Stewart. Kimberly Kimberly Stewart that, yeah,

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>she really Kimberly Stewart. She was supposed to be with

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Kimberly Stewart, and she also asked other people and they

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>were like no, thank you, And finally it was like, Okay,

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll do Nicole. And Nicole was the mood

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>at that time, and he was like, yeah, she was

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>just like this badass, like, yeah, I'm not really doing

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>my hair, I'm not the skinniest. Well, she was definitely

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the more active of them because she was the one

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>who always got them into the trouble. And then Harris

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>was just like a little lazy even like she kind

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of had a lazy character. Yeah. One of my favorite

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>moments of the first season is they go out to

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a bar and they each find like a boy to

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>make out with, and like the boys are probably under

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>age and it's probably not a celebrate and Nicole is

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>making up with this boy and she like comes up

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>her Aaron goes, you smell like onion. You have like

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a favorite scene from earlier Simple Life seasons or favorite

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like sticks. When they were at Sonics Salty Animals Burgers,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Salty Animal Burgers, Wait, give me the content, they had

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to like put they had to do the sign um,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and they wrote salty Anal Burgers and I just was like,

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>first of all, Sonic is like supposed to be like

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a home like family restaurant or whatever, drying Yeah, and

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>for them to put that on there at that time

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>was such a big deal because it's like who's first

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of all, who's talking about No one needs to know.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>No one's saying you know, they're like but or maybe

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>even asked. But I mean, they really did not give

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a damn and no one was saying any Basically, they

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty much they CEO of an absolutely. So I really

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just enjoyed watching them work there and then being so bad,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like they were so bad like putting the French fries

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and it was just like get them out of here.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>They should not be working and they weren't. Although although

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>although I mean, the thing the thing with Paris is

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>like everyone always said she's famous for being famous. She

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a job, um, but she is. She does

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>have this huge empire that when The Simple Life came out,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>she very intentionally built. She was doing movies. She was

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in that movie House of Wax movie that's sex tape. Yeah,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the real thing. When we paint the kind

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of like timeline of Paris. It was New York socialite

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>after being a Hilton photos and then I think sex tape.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Sex tape was before and then simple I mean the

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>sex tape was leaked. She didn't have anything to do

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>with it. It was literally sexual assault. And she talks

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>about it being like very traumic. It wasn't. It wasn't

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the move at the time, like you know sex tapes

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>where there was a little train of preceded. Kim's right, Yeah, well,

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean Paris proceeded Kim. Paris is the reason we

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>have Kim because Kim was her, her bestie. She organized

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>her closets. Yeah, which Kim, we have to shout at

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>her out for the long game. She's very Kim is

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>very l a. She's like, I know how to social climb,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I know how to be in the right crowds and

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.719
<v Speaker 1>circles or whatever, and I'm going to move. I'm going

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>to be moving my pieces so that when I get

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to where I need to go, I won't either anymore.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>She's playing four d hs. Are you a Kardashian fan, No,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I am not a Kardashian fan, but you do have

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to give them their props because when people say, oh,

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't do anything, that's a fucking lie. Like how

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>could you say that someone's not doing Like how could

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you say that Paris Hilton is famous for being famous,

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Like that is actually work, It's an empire. I would

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>love to see you try to be famous for a

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking day because there are plenty of people who get

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, who get the spotlight for a second and

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>don't do anything with it. And these are all people

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>who the spotlight was turned on them and they grabbed

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>onto it and held it there and have been holding

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it there for decades. They have not let up at all.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>They have not really even taken any breaks. Maybe Paris,

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but the Kardashian clan has not taken taken a break.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>There has not been a year where they're off bus club,

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>another club, no sleep, many different extensions of the round. Yes,

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean which Paris also did? I think she in

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.719
<v Speaker 1>addition to movies, she had fragrances, she had amused a career,

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>which is like Connect the Stars, Stars is blind is

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>one of those songs that you're like, this is not good. Yeah,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah good. I disagree. I think it's great. It was.

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it was ahead of its time, because I

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna need Phoebe. It's not good, it's so good.

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I think. I think that the production value

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was very celebrity wants to be a singer algorithm music.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I will agree with you on the taste level being

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of um synthetic and therefore like not up to

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>the quality level maybe of some music that was coming

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>out at that time. However, that synthetic, you know, quality

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I think has appreciated in value in the twenties because

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>we all now want to listen to CYNTHI pop songs

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like that. It was ahead of its time. Nothing in

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>this world is a fucking bob and it's I think

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're going to say in the pot. I agree,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I I unfortunately agree, But I also why unfortunately stand

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in your true yes, because I kind of agree with

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you too, Sydney. I think I think that there it

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely is kind of I mean, it's it's full auto tune. Yes,

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it is Cynthia engineering. Hold on, it's auto tune and

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it's still bad. It's it's still like if you're doing

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>studio voice and the studio voice is still like damn,

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>you all need to turn it a little bit more

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>because still it still sounds of how she was working.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>She was working with the right producers. I think I

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>think she was not aware at the time of why

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>what she was making was good. I think at the

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>time like it was joking it was a cash but

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the music video, but it was an investment that has

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>appreciated in value. The same thing with Lindsay doing rumors

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 1>like that's a song that was like kind of bad

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and now no no no, no, no no no No's

0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>husband rumors, bossy and daughter to confessions, daughter father, come

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>on her wig and daughter father? Is that whole album is?

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>We don't who cares about the wig, It's about the

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>music album cover where it's like her back us broken

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>heart no wait. And I also want to say the

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>thing about like, um, like being a celebrity and staying

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>on people's next or whatever, like you could just tell

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the difference between somebody like the Kardashian and Lindsay Lohan,

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like Mama had to take a couple of breaks, Like

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not easy to like stay in the limelight

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and then not have like some type of addiction or

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just you know, then you got to go to Dubai

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and allegedly like you yeah, like or in the case

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of Paras Hilton, you briefly support Donald Trump. You know

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. It's like, oh, I guess I'll disappear

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>for a year and you know, like really does happen? Yeah? Yeah,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>so did that too. Yeah. So the fact that the

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Kardashians doing something every freaking year, like twenty years and

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>they really like just threw a bunch of things at

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the wall to see what stuck. Like they had a

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>credit card at one point, they had they had makeup

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>lines well before Kylie Cosmetics or KKW Cosmetics, which does

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>not exist anymore. It's only skims. And also this is

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a this is a podcast in which we support skims

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>are right now. But I'm just saying, like, are you

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>going to go to a celebrity for skin care line?

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to do a celebrity for shoot? Except

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>our girl Jessica Simpson Nasa Sturdy as Simpson, who recently

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>bought back her company. She did, Yeah, she bought back

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>full Steak in her company. Wait she is a billion millionaire.

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Wait she is? They sew them at like um dsw God.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when Jessica Simpson and Nicholas were literally

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the two most famous people on the planet. Okay, and

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>around that time, the same like the Simple Life, reality

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>shows actually had so much stock in people's homes, like

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>people will watch and literally like, no, this is the

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>thing to watch, Like I don't want to see anything scripted.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to see ship played down. It played out

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>in people's homes and it was much realer than reality

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.959
<v Speaker 1>TV is today because they didn't understand how to fake

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it yet. Like the Kardashians, I've been watching their new

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>show and it's like, I mean, I think it's good,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's very obvious that everything they do, everything that happens,

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>they are in control. They are the executive producers. They're

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>probably like running the camera. Said if I can't if

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't control every I don't want it. Yeah, I

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>don't do it. But in the days of The Simple

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Life and Newlyweds and like the Surreal Life all that ship,

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know how to not let the cameras see

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>things that they didn't want them to see. God, if

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>there was a re emergence of Jessica Simpson right now,

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>that would be amazing. Well there was, actually she went

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>viral recently because she was doing um a sponsored video

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 1>for an allergy medication, and it was really weird. No, no, no,

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>it was like, maybe do you need do you need

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the money with your brand? That's why it was off

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that it was an ad that was like, this is

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>not even something that you do. You have allergies I do.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That's actually been the best part about moving to l

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>as my allergies are not as bad anymore. Jessica Simpson

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>is kind of giving Rihanna and that she completely abandoned

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>music to be a mogul. Why not? Why not do it?

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't deserve I'm going to sit here right now.

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>As a culture, we don't deserve anything that like the

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>real musicians are putting out. We don't because everything we do,

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>we take it we wanted in sixties and bites so

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that we can do these stupid as fucking dances. It's

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>like we don't respect we don't respect the craft, I

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>mean everything, Like look at the generation now, they're so bored.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>What else? What else? And anything that is trending. You're like,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>this is fucking trending? How dare you? And it's all

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Paris Hilton's fault back and say like I don't. I

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like Paris is kind of like making a

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>comeback per se, but like re emergence as a DJ

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and with her documentary and all this stuff, like hasn't

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>been kind of interested in like what people want now.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think between Jessica Simpson honestly and Paris and

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.240
<v Speaker 1>like blonde bimbos of like the early aughts, like there's

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>something about that that's much more valuable now because when

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>A Simple Life came out, we as a culture fundamentally

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand that, like you can be into things that

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>are like flamboyantly girly and also be an intellect. And

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>now in the twenties, that's like a fierce ideal of

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of like the ways we talk about

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>women are talking about celebrity is and so you know,

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Paris trying to kind of rebrand herself as a shrewd businesswoman.

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Not to say that she isn't, but like that is

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>how she's pivoting a little bit. Well, I mean, she's

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>older now, so she wants to like remain like, hey,

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be Mariah Carey, which we love Maria.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Mariah wants to stay at a surname. So does Madonna.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>So Paris is like, no, no, no no, it's okay. I'm

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>getting older, Like I know, like the voice that I

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was doing before, you know, we're gonna change it a

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Also getting married, I'm doing I'm doing something different. Yeah.

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I think part of it is also like about legacy

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and are wanting to say, all of these things that

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>exist now, I had a hand in creating them. And

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 1>don't forget that She's trying to reintroduce herself, not only

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to us who were aware of it the first time around,

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but this generation who don't even understand that, you know,

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>like she invented the selfie. She's She's like, I am

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>a trend setter. You know, if you ever wear a

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Lore sweatsuit, bitch Hillo, because you owe me a check. Yeah. Literally,

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>juicy juicy couture wouldn't even have been able to thrive

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>back then for her or just beca Simpson or just

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>like Lindsay, all of those celebrities at the time. In

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>my high school yearbook for senior superlatives, I was best

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>dressed or I was most fashionable, and in the photo

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I wore a juice guitar track suit. Man of course

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you did. And do you know, like to have that

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>on your automatically cool like people people know that like,

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>oh you have money because this is like a hundred

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>dollars for some reason for just just the top I had.

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of times where it was like

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>a mitche match like I would have I would be

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 1>able to have the hoodie, but then it would be

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Valor and then the sweats would be terry cloth because

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that was on sale from Shop Bop. Like you know,

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like all of the other girls, but I

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>knew what was going on at that time, and that

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>was very appreciative of the movement. You know, neither of

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.959
<v Speaker 1>you get a senior superlative in high school. I got

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the biggest personality, which between best dress something theah yeah

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>if you if you could have gotten one, what would

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you have wanted it to be? Uh? It would be

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>what's that? Most popular? Yeah? I was. I was very

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>popular in high school. Of course you are. I was

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>popular instance that everybody knew me, and I was in

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>little groups here and there. I wasn't cool. Were you funny?

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't. But did you make everyone laugh or you like?

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Was it? Was it? Giving class? Clown. People were talking

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>about me. I wouldn't say that class clown. I was

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>most popular because people there was either somebody wanted to

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>fight me or I was like teacher's pet. I was

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in like every extra curriculum activity. I wasn't a nerd

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>though I wasn't. I wasn't getting straight a's. They were like,

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of dumb, but like you're doing all the stuff,

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but can you read, you know, like and stuff like that.

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I was the most popular in terms

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of like every group knew who the fun I was.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I know that that silent power, you know, moving in

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the shadows. I think that's where the real power is that.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that what you want in the future. Yeah,

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I think those were the true like when I was

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and actually, no, I want to be more in the spotlight.

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>When I was growing up, those were definitely the popular.

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>The popular kids that I idolized were the ones that

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>had that quiet, cool, usually extremely funny sensibility that that girl,

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>who is that girl? Yeah, they were like the theater kids, honestly,

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to zip back to the voice thing.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to know y'all's honest take on like this

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 1>thing that they're trying to establish in the documentary, which

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>is that the voice that she's been doing on camera

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>this whole time is fake. All you know Elizabeth Holmes

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and like she really is like a cool Like the

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>documentary was very like she's a normal girl. Look, her

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>voice is slightly lower. She like eats take out and like, um,

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, enjoys leftovers like I didn't. I don't know.

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a hard time kind of buying what they

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 1>were trying to. Now, all the girls, all the girls

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>in the early apps had that voice, yes, by Jessica.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>The voice. It was the thing that you like, it's

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of annoying, but like like you know, and it's

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a thing that girls are still doing. They're doing. Have

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard Brittany's real singing voice. There's like a

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>concert clip of her one time being like this is

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>my real singing voice, and she sounds like totally different

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I don't know. I don't know anyways,

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I I do think, yeah, maybe it was more like

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 1>a manufacturing of like the celebrity celebrities at the time,

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>or since you have to have a baby voice, you

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. I'll never be as pressed as I was

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:37.399
<v Speaker 1>about celebrities then like now I don't care because it's

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>too annoying. It's I know too much. We were we

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>were so obsessed. We we wanted to know so much.

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, this was the time of Perez Hilton

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>and oh no they didn't and like this, I mean,

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>this was the time where the photographer you could get

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of dollars for a photo of one

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>of these girls. When they said that they still making

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>good money. Now they're still doing good money, but with

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the photos. But it's just like it's more gross now. Yeah,

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>things like dumois or like um camera. So it's like

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just become democratires. Yeah, And I think in in

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the wake Up the Free Bitney Movement were not everyone,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of us have like a slightly more

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>nuanced perspective on We watched the documentary and we were like, oh,

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.479
<v Speaker 1>they were so bad. Even though it's like, yeah, people

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 1>are getting in like Princess Diana fucking car crash. We

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>never we never learned. We don't we never learned. We

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>don't want people are still going a non please and

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, I don't know. I think that honestly,

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>what I was trying to get out with like the

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Paris voice thing is in part because like I feel like,

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, to be a celebrity, you do have a

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>performance self, and I don't know if that necessarily is

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>any less you you know what I mean? Like I

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like, um, I when when I was watching the

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>doc I felt like I believe that she is like

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>an amazing businesswoman and that she has this empire and

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that you know, her voice is really like this or whatever.

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 1>But there was nothing from the documentary maybe because it's

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>like so I think it's a little shallow, like it

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't really go anywhere where I wanted it to. But

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I felt like, um, there was nothing in the doctor

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of proved to me that she was like this

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 1>sole savant genius behind a multimillion of the brain, the

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>whole performance of it, that like don't we all do

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a version of that? And isn't that just kind of

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.919
<v Speaker 1>what that that documentary was proving is that like she

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>was at least just being a heightened version of herself

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that she knew would make her money. And also it

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was maybe kind of like based on some trauma she

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.800
<v Speaker 1>had and like we all performed versions of ourselves online

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that are like not always a percent authentic to who

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>we are, at least not all the time. I think

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that's my problem. My problem is that I'm too transparent

0:47:53.239 --> 0:48:00.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm too like consistent all the way, and I

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:02.959
<v Speaker 1>need to work on That's why I need a fucking team.

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why these people are are thriving because they have

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>like a whole circle of people to be like, this

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is this is this is your brand, this is the marketing,

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the this is the angle, this is all

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the things that we're going to do to make sure

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that you get to where you need to go. And

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you have all these different branches. It does sound really nice,

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>but don't you think there's um, I guess for me,

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a fear in that barrier between me and the audience.

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Something will be missed that like the people are going

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to like like, I understand that whatever minor platform of

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>people who are interested in me exists is because for

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>most of the time that I've been on the Internet,

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I have been like completely unfiltered and said everything I think.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>And in recent years I've like gotten more aware of

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>censoring myself a little bit because you getting the numbers

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you got like you're getting more. People are seeing you more,

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>hearing you more your tweets, Like we have to be

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>more present in that because anything can happen. Anybody could

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>pull up some ship and you're like, okay, I have

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>no job now, so it's different. It's different like the

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 1>unfiltered nous twenty years ago, I couldn't get you in trouble. Now,

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>well it's yeah, exactly exactly twenty years later, I can.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, I mean I definitely have

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like a performance self. I think that that it's always

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 1>hot always, it's never sad, it's always hot. It's always hot.

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I should I should pivot more to like sad home

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.240
<v Speaker 1>stop it. We have to stop. Like I love people

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>being like honest, but then it's like, so what do

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you have for the people in your real life? But

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>what And that's that's what I have to work on

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is and that's what I love you. That's what I

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:46.439
<v Speaker 1>love about the Kardashians. And I don't I can't believe

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that'st a that but like those type of celebrities is like, yes,

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this is that thing that I'm putting out there, and

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>then when people meet them in real life, it's something

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>else like it should be that it should Yeah, I

0:49:58.600 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think part of the reason I was kind of a

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>allergic to the Paris voice things, just that the whole

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>her kind of whole claim was like, this is not me,

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and the documentary is called this is Paris. It's like

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>this is the real me and this is the fake me.

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, it's all. But then but then

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>she's leaned back into it because she did the cooking

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 1>show where she was like doing doing the baby voice again,

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think at the very least she's like having

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>fun with it again. Um, she has, and that's kind

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of all we want because those are like, those are

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why we like her, like all the trappings

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of Paris, Like she looms so large in the cultural

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>consciousness that it's just smart business to play into it.

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's why I'm sure she, you know, allowed herself

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>to be part of like something like the Bling Ring

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 1>where they you know, because names were changed for for

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>people in that, but they talked about breaking into Paris's

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>house and I'm sure someone had to call her and

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>make sure that was okay, and she clearly said yes,

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>And I love the Bling Ring. Wait, now, what was

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bling Ring. The Blingering is a Sofia couple of

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the movie based on something that really happened, where this

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>group of teenagers were breaking into all these famous people's

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>houses and stealing their stuff. Yeah, it's I don't think

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 1>the movie is very good, but the story is an

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I think is great. It's Emma Watson and her action,

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know, you know you that's also a brand

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.240
<v Speaker 1>of things, like especially in the early Ott's bad but good.

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not good. It's bad, but it's still okay, like

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>we love it, you know. So I think now everything

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>has to be fucking good. Everything has to be so genius,

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it has to have an has to have a message.

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's too much. I missed the like good

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>old days where you could just so bad, so bad.

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's culture. Yeah, idiot culture. Actually Paris is

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>o g idiot simple life the like not. I don't

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 1>see that in a pejorative way, like she's in on

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the joke and I think that it's absurd. Is that's

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of also like my point earlier about like flamboyant

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>femininity is like culture, yes, or also like look at

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like z Way or like or like something like the

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.319
<v Speaker 1>reason a movie, like legally Blonde as successful as you have,

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like that dichotomy of someone who's like shrewd and incisive

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and intellectual, but also just like I dressed like a barby. Well,

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>yes she is, but like, let's be honest, z Way.

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, she is a woman that is truly so smart,

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and she has the background and she like went to

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>school for all of this, Like it's just different. Like

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I think blonds can actually be idiots and then make

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 1>an empire off of it, like still value them, but

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>brown girls, like we really do have to have an

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 1>education and we can't just pull off a show like

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 1>z Ways without being the pure genius that she is. Yeah,

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see interview parents. She would be

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.760
<v Speaker 1>an iconic guy. Paris is a huge influence of hers,

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>as well as Stacy. She she I know, she's reached out. Actually,

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see this because Republican not just

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the Republican. She's just like the worst of the worst

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so far. She had the capital on aid for a while.

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>She worked at the White House, like in an basically

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 1>fake job. This is what happens when you when you don't.

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody who was really big in the

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.879
<v Speaker 1>early two thousands. They feel lost now They're like, what

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>can I do to push the needle and be talked

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:45.359
<v Speaker 1>about and be relevant and get in And Stacy dash

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>was literally like Republican like I'm already beautiful, I've already

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>done the movies. I'm not singing. What then am I

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>going to do? Republican gonna be hand in hand with Trump?

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the only way we would pay her mind truthfully,

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.280
<v Speaker 1>whack yeah, And it did it put her. I wouldn't

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>never have thought about her if it weren't for that

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>cultural moment. You have to have, like a crazy spiraling

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.320
<v Speaker 1>moment for people like what which makes me wonder about

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wonder if there's a connection to like

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Paris briefly supporting Trump like I have. I have no

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Paris is like kind of a good person,

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 1>but like she definitely has some like evil things circulating

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 1>her because she grew up in a wealthy white family. Well,

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I think at the time what she said about it

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is that Trump was like a family friend. Before Trump

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was a president, he was like people were fans of him.

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.720
<v Speaker 1>We have to really get down to the nitty gritty,

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is that he only became an evil guy. When he

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>became the president, we all that he was like everything

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you wanted on TV and now you're like, that's in

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the fucking White House. That's the person who's controlling the government.

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Out of here was part of the same part like

0:54:52.600 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 1>time and reality TV culture that Harris was. Do you

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.359
<v Speaker 1>remember Paris's other reality show? It was the one where

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you were auditioning to be her new best friend, which

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh my god, that's so nasty, nasty because

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>because Paris basically dumped and called Richie. Yeah, and it

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was basically it was they were fighting huge few I

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't know about this, will you mean the top line

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of like how it went down or well, for for me,

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the specifics, but I could tell that

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Nicole was going through it like she had. She was

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>battling like eating disorder and like drugs, and I mean

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:46.320
<v Speaker 1>being on something like simple Life and being somebody's you know, sidekick,

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that fox with that fox with everything, and to know

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 1>that she was not the first pig. No, she was

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not the first pig. So I think all that I'm

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 1>sure started to build up to. Yeah, it was also

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>just the era of the girls are fighting. There were

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:06.439
<v Speaker 1>always fighting. There was only it just felt like there

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>was us a limited amount of psychic space that these

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 1>women could take up, and they were clawing and scratching

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>each other for every intruent they could get, and all

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of us watching, we're just encouraging it because it was

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>entertaining to watch. And I think the Paris and Nicole thing,

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't even really think there's like a real inciting

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.359
<v Speaker 1>incident outside of you know, one person said something kind

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of bitchy about the other one in the press, and

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 1>then the other one retaliated and it's snowballed from there. Yeah.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>But also again, like you know, being in the public

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>eye is very stressful, So I would never want to

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>be that famous. I don't. I don't know if I

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>want that. I don't. I see how hard I am

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 1>right now, just regular degla. I couldn't imagine, like, you know,

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>some paparazzi paparazzi getting me from a bad angle and

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, that's everywhere. It's going viral at least now,

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:03.480
<v Speaker 1>as you know, a humble stand up comedian photographer takes

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a bad angle of me on stage, they're blocked. Yea, yeah,

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll be curious to know like what the future of

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Paris looks like, because she's kind of projecting like what

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>she is going to be now with the DJ staff

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and with this documentary. But like I'm her TV show

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>about her getting married, yes, and the marriage the wedding,

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 1>which well it's on like peacock or something that nobody

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>has no I mean, just getting me love people. Yeah,

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>there's some friends that got stuff on there. I mean,

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I have it. Well, actually I'm using somebody else.

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I still support. I support, but yeah the wedding boring,

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like we got to do more, but was there and

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that those moments for me, whenever they reunite, I get

0:57:54.280 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 1>so happy because I do. I did love their friendships

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 1>so much and just like just like you, I wanted, Um,

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a Nicole I wanted. I. I also

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted a Paris planacle. I'm definitely on Paris. Unfortunately, we

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>are a Paris and Nicole, you think, and this energy

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>has been top of the line. I mean, because no

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>one's that bad or good. You know, you guys just

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 1>ping pong off of each other and it's it's feeling good. Yeah. Well,

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I will be braced for the next problematic thing,

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe that Paris halting. She'll she'll definitely do it. What

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>do you think she'll do? I don't know. I honestly

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>was a little I'm not trying to Honestly, I'm not

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to like demonize or anything problem but I just

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>think that like watching the documentary, which I did like

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a few like a few days ago, like I was

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like kind of baffled by a lot of awareness around

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>this whole rebrand thing, but still a lack of awareness

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>around like her wealth and her class and like her

0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>place in the world. And like even in the documentary

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>she was wearing like an n white heat had, Like

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just no accountability. I was like, who, I

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:08.920
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily even care unfortunately about accountability from Paris Hilton,

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Like we don't need it, it doesn't matter. I would

0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like to. I think that there is something interesting in

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I say this on the part of the time,

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'm interested in like white people investigating whiteness, and

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that I don't think that something Paris was

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>aware of, but like it's something that's interesting about her

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and like the privilege that she has. It's not the band,

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>because it would just be so awkward and we honestly

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear it. Like there's just some people

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you we don't need that perspective, and they know that

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>they stay in their lane. And that's why I have

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to That's why I have to give it to her

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that she has not come out and try to be

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 1>one of those people to jump on the bandwagon. If

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I ever saw Paris Hilton with a Black Lives Matter anything,

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I would be fucking furious, Like what, I don't want

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to snatch just share right off or whatever she had

0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a little pin or something. No, absolutely not. It's funny

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.520
<v Speaker 1>how much we resent celebrities for trying and yet like

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:07.880
<v Speaker 1>culturally we demand accountability from people that do that are

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 1>wrong doing. But I totally agree with you, it's not.

1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like when I said I don't care

1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:13.720
<v Speaker 1>about accountability, Like I I don't care if it's like

1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>right or wrong, but like I really am. It's like

1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to watch you suffer through. It's kind

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of like how I felt watching like the Real House

1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 1>as of Salt Lake City or like of Beverly Hills,

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like trying to have conversations about race. It's like I

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 1>actually I don't need this from you, you know what

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean. We're here for the ships, you are here

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 1>for the drama. But like when there's like race relations

1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in reality shows, it's like, Okay, this feels too much

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like what's actually in the world. And escapism like Harris

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Hilton is escapism. We want to be stars are blind

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:47.680
<v Speaker 1>on the beach, like just just vibes head empty. And

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know when I said earlier like a simple life

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>could exist today, I think I said that maybe very

1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:56.200
<v Speaker 1>um aspirationally, like I kind of wish that we could

1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:59.400
<v Speaker 1>produce something that is that's stupid or unaware, you know

1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:03.920
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, But like it would be the need

1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to be or that the need for us to cancel it.

1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just like there would there would be no conversation.

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's a version of the symbol life today where

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like, um, some like liberal queers have to go

1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 1>live and like have to go work at Fox News,

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:20.720
<v Speaker 1>like the interns at Fox News or bright Bart. That's

1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the simple life. That's actually maybe it's the other

1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:29.920
<v Speaker 1>way around. Maybe it's like Megan Kelly has to like

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:34.400
<v Speaker 1>go go live and like be a part of Juice.

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 1>That might be funny we might gag. And who's like

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the Paris Hilton of our I mean, that's like a

1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of rudimentary thing to say, but if there's a

1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is there a Paris Hilton of our generation? Emily Morico

1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:51.720
<v Speaker 1>who's like a wealthy kind of privilege, who's famous for

1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>being wealthy. Lily depth Um, I don't even like one

1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of the celebrity kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the

1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:09.000
<v Speaker 1>say Ellen I was, I don't think the girls got it.

1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:11.720
<v Speaker 1>They don't get it. They don't have it. When we

1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:14.400
<v Speaker 1>were talking, they think they do. We're talking about socialites

1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:17.040
<v Speaker 1>in New York City. I'm talking about like Beatrice in

1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>We're going to like the holes in the walls where

1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:23.439
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh was this bitch? Everybody's around them like

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.240
<v Speaker 1>there's no more of that. They just don't have it.

1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:28.960
<v Speaker 1>They can't move the needle, they don't have the fashion,

1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:31.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't have the they don't have the thought process.

1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:34.919
<v Speaker 1>They're certainly trying, but they're not succeeding. So maybe it's

1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:37.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's like, Okay, maybe they can see this show.

1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like Country Brooklyn faggots that have to like go

1:02:40.560 --> 1:02:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to like mansions and pretend to be rich or something

1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's like they are talking about it hilly.

1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing that is the Beverly like simple

1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:56.919
<v Speaker 1>life was a subversion of Beverly Hillbillies and like Green Acres.

1:02:56.960 --> 1:03:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So okay, coming back to the Leverty like kids or whatever.

1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Madonna's daughter Lords has got it. But she doesn't. She

1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:11.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't quite have it on the scale that parristed, but

1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:17.080
<v Speaker 1>she has it the energy of like socialized girl. She's

1:03:17.080 --> 1:03:20.640
<v Speaker 1>got it. It's not just because she's got hair underneath

1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.880
<v Speaker 1>her arms like she's it's something in her that's like

1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to be the opposite of everybody and everything

1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that's happening right now. And I think that is a

1:03:30.320 --> 1:03:33.120
<v Speaker 1>part of being a socialite. Like you're not You're not

1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the masses. You're like a small you're a small group.

1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So she's got it. I think we've got it. I

1:03:40.000 --> 1:03:42.280
<v Speaker 1>think we all three of us have got it. We

1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:44.800
<v Speaker 1>could we could be socialites. I think we are socialites

1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:47.160
<v Speaker 1>in our own ways, socialites in that we never leave

1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:49.720
<v Speaker 1>our homes and watch people on social No, no, no, no

1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:52.160
<v Speaker 1>no socialites. This is this is the main thing is

1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the funk you do that No

1:03:57.000 --> 1:03:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one knows what I have power and silence moving in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But you've got every look, You've got every label.

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