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Speaker 1: York socialite stuff like Kelly ben Simone era, like who

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00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: else was like a New York socialite type, And because

428
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: like New York socialites, I just think of early real

429
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: house life of New York kind of because New York

430
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: socialites that was like an era that doesn't really exist.

431
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: It was actual, but like people don't write about socialites

432
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: the way they used to. Like socialites in New York

433
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: used to be these kind of like nano influencer types

434
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: that everyone knew about, at least at the metropolitan level,

435
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: but they were not like famous, No. I think what

436
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: Blue Paris up was. She did a photo shoot with

437
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: in her grandma's house and it was, I mean, the

438
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: clothes non existent, the makeup, hair, I mean tracks showing

439
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: like it was, oh my god, the hair extension incredibly clocky.

440
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: But but I love that because it was they were like,

441
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: we are not perfect. We don't want to be perfect.

442
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: The eyeline, eyeliner is going to be smudge. I mean,

443
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: the die job not that good. The artifice was the point.

444
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, Spoiled Princess, like low rise

445
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: brat Stall aesthetic is now like that. It is like

446
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: fully the aesthetic you know it is, but you're also

447
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: looking at them like girl, but it's they're not They're

448
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: not owning it. It looks like a costume. But like

449
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: then it actually felt like a vibe We're gonna walk,

450
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna rock this all day. This is not just

451
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: for a particular party. This is the look for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

452
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Early as mid drift culture was like a full moment,

453
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: like every single celebrity at the time had like the

454
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: little like inch and a half of like you know,

455
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: middrift showing mid drift, but we're doing belly button rings. Um.

456
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: And at that time people could actually have like hips,

457
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: like wide hips, and like the stomach's just looked real.

458
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: I just felt like I was so close to being

459
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: one of those girls, even though we're not in the

460
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: same like class or socio economic status or whatever. I

461
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: felt like I could dress like Paris and Nicole and

462
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: almost be like two steps away from being them. Harris

463
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: and Nicole were wearing like juicy guitar, which like you

464
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: could go to the mall and buy, and were they

465
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: wearing Abercrombie and Fitch theah, oh my god. I uh

466
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: so you were talking about how like you were drawn

467
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: to the aesthetic when you first started watching. Is there

468
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: anything else about Simple or just Paris Hilton in general

469
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: that you were like drawn to or you remember kind

470
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: of connecting with. Well, it was it was also like

471
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: the friendship too, because it was like Paris by herself,

472
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: you like, Paris is the bitch, but Paris next to Nicole, Oh,

473
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: actually she's not really a bit. You know. They bring

474
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: out they bring out like really good sides of each other.

475
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: They do like Sillin Bill the like son of Song

476
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: Song and those are my favorite moments of the show

477
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: when they were like teaming up and you know, they

478
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: were it was like them on one side in the

479
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: world on the other it wasn't. It was just like that.

480
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: You can see that in any type of like friendship vibe,

481
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, like there's always the one that's more alpha,

482
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: and then there's another one that's like, Okay, I kind

483
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: of do whatever you want me to do. And I

484
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: even though at that time I didn't have like a

485
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: best friend like Paris, I kind of went into college

486
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: like hoping that I would find my Paris. Did you

487
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: know I was a smotor I was one of those

488
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: people that just couldn't stick to one group. I guess

489
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: I always wondered with Harrison Nicole and you know, their

490
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: their feud is a huge part of the legacy of

491
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: their friendship was how much of it was real and

492
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: how much of it was. Like they cast Paris and

493
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: they were like, do you have a friend who would

494
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: work for this? And she picked Nicole, and then she

495
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: had another there was Nicole wasn't first pick. She was

496
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: the first pick. Kimberly Stewart. Kimberly Kimberly Stewart that, yeah,

497
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: she really Kimberly Stewart. She was supposed to be with

498
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Kimberly Stewart, and she also asked other people and they

499
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: were like no, thank you, And finally it was like, Okay,

500
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: I guess I'll do Nicole. And Nicole was the mood

501
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: at that time, and he was like, yeah, she was

502
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: just like this badass, like, yeah, I'm not really doing

503
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: my hair, I'm not the skinniest. Well, she was definitely

504
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: the more active of them because she was the one

505
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: who always got them into the trouble. And then Harris

506
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: was just like a little lazy even like she kind

507
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: of had a lazy character. Yeah. One of my favorite

508
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: moments of the first season is they go out to

509
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: a bar and they each find like a boy to

510
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: make out with, and like the boys are probably under

511
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: age and it's probably not a celebrate and Nicole is

512
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: making up with this boy and she like comes up

513
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: her Aaron goes, you smell like onion. You have like

514
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: a favorite scene from earlier Simple Life seasons or favorite

515
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: like sticks. When they were at Sonics Salty Animals Burgers,

516
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Salty Animal Burgers, Wait, give me the content, they had

517
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: to like put they had to do the sign um,

518
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: and they wrote salty Anal Burgers and I just was like,

519
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: first of all, Sonic is like supposed to be like

520
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: a home like family restaurant or whatever, drying Yeah, and

521
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: for them to put that on there at that time

522
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: was such a big deal because it's like who's first

523
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: of all, who's talking about No one needs to know.

524
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: No one's saying you know, they're like but or maybe

525
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: even asked. But I mean, they really did not give

526
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: a damn and no one was saying any Basically, they

527
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: pretty much they CEO of an absolutely. So I really

528
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: just enjoyed watching them work there and then being so bad,

529
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: like they were so bad like putting the French fries

530
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: and it was just like get them out of here.

531
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: They should not be working and they weren't. Although although

532
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: although I mean, the thing the thing with Paris is

533
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: like everyone always said she's famous for being famous. She

534
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have a job, um, but she is. She does

535
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: have this huge empire that when The Simple Life came out,

536
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: she very intentionally built. She was doing movies. She was

537
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: in that movie House of Wax movie that's sex tape. Yeah,

538
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Like that's the real thing. When we paint the kind

539
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: of like timeline of Paris. It was New York socialite

540
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: after being a Hilton photos and then I think sex tape.

541
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Sex tape was before and then simple I mean the

542
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: sex tape was leaked. She didn't have anything to do

543
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: with it. It was literally sexual assault. And she talks

544
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: about it being like very traumic. It wasn't. It wasn't

545
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: the move at the time, like you know sex tapes

546
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: where there was a little train of preceded. Kim's right, Yeah, well,

547
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean Paris proceeded Kim. Paris is the reason we

548
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: have Kim because Kim was her, her bestie. She organized

549
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: her closets. Yeah, which Kim, we have to shout at

550
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: her out for the long game. She's very Kim is

551
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: very l a. She's like, I know how to social climb,

552
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: I know how to be in the right crowds and

553
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: circles or whatever, and I'm going to move. I'm going

554
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: to be moving my pieces so that when I get

555
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: to where I need to go, I won't either anymore.

556
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: She's playing four d hs. Are you a Kardashian fan, No,

557
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: I am not a Kardashian fan, but you do have

558
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: to give them their props because when people say, oh,

559
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: they don't do anything, that's a fucking lie. Like how

560
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: could you say that someone's not doing Like how could

561
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: you say that Paris Hilton is famous for being famous,

562
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Like that is actually work, It's an empire. I would

563
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: love to see you try to be famous for a

564
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: fucking day because there are plenty of people who get

565
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, who get the spotlight for a second and

566
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: don't do anything with it. And these are all people

567
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: who the spotlight was turned on them and they grabbed

568
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: onto it and held it there and have been holding

569
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: it there for decades. They have not let up at all.

570
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: They have not really even taken any breaks. Maybe Paris,

571
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: but the Kardashian clan has not taken taken a break.

572
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: There has not been a year where they're off bus club,

573
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: another club, no sleep, many different extensions of the round. Yes,

574
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean which Paris also did? I think she in

575
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: addition to movies, she had fragrances, she had amused a career,

576
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: which is like Connect the Stars, Stars is blind is

577
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: one of those songs that you're like, this is not good. Yeah,

578
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: yeah good. I disagree. I think it's great. It was.

579
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: I think it was ahead of its time, because I

580
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna need Phoebe. It's not good, it's so good.

581
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I think that the production value

582
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: was very celebrity wants to be a singer algorithm music.

583
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: I will agree with you on the taste level being

584
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: kind of um synthetic and therefore like not up to

585
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: the quality level maybe of some music that was coming

586
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: out at that time. However, that synthetic, you know, quality

587
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: I think has appreciated in value in the twenties because

588
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: we all now want to listen to CYNTHI pop songs

589
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: like that. It was ahead of its time. Nothing in

590
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: this world is a fucking bob and it's I think

591
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to say in the pot. I agree,

592
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: I I unfortunately agree, But I also why unfortunately stand

593
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: in your true yes, because I kind of agree with

594
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: you too, Sydney. I think I think that there it

595
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: definitely is kind of I mean, it's it's full auto tune. Yes,

596
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: it is Cynthia engineering. Hold on, it's auto tune and

597
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: it's still bad. It's it's still like if you're doing

598
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: studio voice and the studio voice is still like damn,

599
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: you all need to turn it a little bit more

600
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: because still it still sounds of how she was working.

601
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: She was working with the right producers. I think I

602
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: think she was not aware at the time of why

603
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: what she was making was good. I think at the

604
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: time like it was joking it was a cash but

605
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: the music video, but it was an investment that has

606
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: appreciated in value. The same thing with Lindsay doing rumors

607
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: like that's a song that was like kind of bad

608
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: and now no no no, no, no no no No's

609
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: husband rumors, bossy and daughter to confessions, daughter father, come

610
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: on her wig and daughter father? Is that whole album is?

611
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: We don't who cares about the wig, It's about the

612
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: music album cover where it's like her back us broken

613
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: heart no wait. And I also want to say the

614
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: thing about like, um, like being a celebrity and staying

615
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: on people's next or whatever, like you could just tell

616
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: the difference between somebody like the Kardashian and Lindsay Lohan,

617
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: like Mama had to take a couple of breaks, Like

618
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: it's it's not easy to like stay in the limelight

619
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: and then not have like some type of addiction or

620
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: just you know, then you got to go to Dubai

621
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: and allegedly like you yeah, like or in the case

622
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: of Paras Hilton, you briefly support Donald Trump. You know

623
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, oh, I guess I'll disappear

624
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: for a year and you know, like really does happen? Yeah? Yeah,

625
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: so did that too. Yeah. So the fact that the

626
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Kardashians doing something every freaking year, like twenty years and

627
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: they really like just threw a bunch of things at

628
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: the wall to see what stuck. Like they had a

629
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: credit card at one point, they had they had makeup

630
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: lines well before Kylie Cosmetics or KKW Cosmetics, which does

631
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: not exist anymore. It's only skims. And also this is

632
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: a this is a podcast in which we support skims

633
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: are right now. But I'm just saying, like, are you

634
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: going to go to a celebrity for skin care line?

635
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Are you going to do a celebrity for shoot? Except

636
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: our girl Jessica Simpson Nasa Sturdy as Simpson, who recently

637
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: bought back her company. She did, Yeah, she bought back

638
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: full Steak in her company. Wait she is a billion millionaire.

639
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: Wait she is? They sew them at like um dsw God.

640
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember when Jessica Simpson and Nicholas were literally

641
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: the two most famous people on the planet. Okay, and

642
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: around that time, the same like the Simple Life, reality

643
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: shows actually had so much stock in people's homes, like

644
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: people will watch and literally like, no, this is the

645
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: thing to watch, Like I don't want to see anything scripted.

646
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I want to see ship played down. It played out

647
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: in people's homes and it was much realer than reality

648
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 1: TV is today because they didn't understand how to fake

649
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: it yet. Like the Kardashians, I've been watching their new

650
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: show and it's like, I mean, I think it's good,

651
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: but it's very obvious that everything they do, everything that happens,

652
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: they are in control. They are the executive producers. They're

653
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: probably like running the camera. Said if I can't if

654
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: I can't control every I don't want it. Yeah, I

655
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: don't do it. But in the days of The Simple

656
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: Life and Newlyweds and like the Surreal Life all that ship,

657
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: they didn't know how to not let the cameras see

658
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: things that they didn't want them to see. God, if

659
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: there was a re emergence of Jessica Simpson right now,

660
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Well there was, actually she went

661
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: viral recently because she was doing um a sponsored video

662
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: for an allergy medication, and it was really weird. No, no, no,

663
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: it was like, maybe do you need do you need

664
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: the money with your brand? That's why it was off

665
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: that it was an ad that was like, this is

666
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: not even something that you do. You have allergies I do.

667
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: That's actually been the best part about moving to l

668
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: as my allergies are not as bad anymore. Jessica Simpson

669
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: is kind of giving Rihanna and that she completely abandoned

670
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: music to be a mogul. Why not? Why not do it?

671
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: We don't deserve I'm going to sit here right now.

672
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: As a culture, we don't deserve anything that like the

673
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: real musicians are putting out. We don't because everything we do,

674
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: we take it we wanted in sixties and bites so

675
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: that we can do these stupid as fucking dances. It's

676
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: like we don't respect we don't respect the craft, I

677
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: mean everything, Like look at the generation now, they're so bored.

678
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: What else? What else? And anything that is trending. You're like,

679
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: this is fucking trending? How dare you? And it's all

680
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton's fault back and say like I don't. I

681
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: don't feel like Paris is kind of like making a

682
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: comeback per se, but like re emergence as a DJ

683
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: and with her documentary and all this stuff, like hasn't

684
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: been kind of interested in like what people want now.

685
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: And I think between Jessica Simpson honestly and Paris and

686
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: like blonde bimbos of like the early aughts, like there's

687
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: something about that that's much more valuable now because when

688
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: A Simple Life came out, we as a culture fundamentally

689
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: didn't understand that, like you can be into things that

690
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: are like flamboyantly girly and also be an intellect. And

691
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: now in the twenties, that's like a fierce ideal of

692
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: like a lot of like the ways we talk about

693
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: women are talking about celebrity is and so you know,

694
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Paris trying to kind of rebrand herself as a shrewd businesswoman.

695
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Not to say that she isn't, but like that is

696
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: how she's pivoting a little bit. Well, I mean, she's

697
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: older now, so she wants to like remain like, hey,

698
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be Mariah Carey, which we love Maria.

699
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: Mariah wants to stay at a surname. So does Madonna.

700
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: So Paris is like, no, no, no no, it's okay. I'm

701
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: getting older, Like I know, like the voice that I

702
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: was doing before, you know, we're gonna change it a

703
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: little bit. Also getting married, I'm doing I'm doing something different. Yeah.

704
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I think part of it is also like about legacy

705
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: and are wanting to say, all of these things that

706
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: exist now, I had a hand in creating them. And

707
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: don't forget that She's trying to reintroduce herself, not only

708
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: to us who were aware of it the first time around,

709
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: but this generation who don't even understand that, you know,

710
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: like she invented the selfie. She's She's like, I am

711
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: a trend setter. You know, if you ever wear a

712
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: Lore sweatsuit, bitch Hillo, because you owe me a check. Yeah. Literally,

713
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: juicy juicy couture wouldn't even have been able to thrive

714
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: back then for her or just beca Simpson or just

715
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: like Lindsay, all of those celebrities at the time. In

716
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: my high school yearbook for senior superlatives, I was best

717
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: dressed or I was most fashionable, and in the photo

718
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: I wore a juice guitar track suit. Man of course

719
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: you did. And do you know, like to have that

720
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: on your automatically cool like people people know that like,

721
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: oh you have money because this is like a hundred

722
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: dollars for some reason for just just the top I had.

723
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I had a lot of times where it was like

724
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: a mitche match like I would have I would be

725
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: able to have the hoodie, but then it would be

726
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Valor and then the sweats would be terry cloth because

727
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: that was on sale from Shop Bop. Like you know,

728
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't like all of the other girls, but I

729
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: knew what was going on at that time, and that

730
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: was very appreciative of the movement. You know, neither of

731
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 1: you get a senior superlative in high school. I got

732
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: the biggest personality, which between best dress something theah yeah

733
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: if you if you could have gotten one, what would

734
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: you have wanted it to be? Uh? It would be

735
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: what's that? Most popular? Yeah? I was. I was very

736
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: popular in high school. Of course you are. I was

737
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: popular instance that everybody knew me, and I was in

738
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: little groups here and there. I wasn't cool. Were you funny?

739
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't. But did you make everyone laugh or you like?

740
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it? Giving class? Clown. People were talking

741
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: about me. I wouldn't say that class clown. I was

742
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: most popular because people there was either somebody wanted to

743
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: fight me or I was like teacher's pet. I was

744
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: in like every extra curriculum activity. I wasn't a nerd

745
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: though I wasn't. I wasn't getting straight a's. They were like,

746
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: you're kind of dumb, but like you're doing all the stuff,

747
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: but can you read, you know, like and stuff like that.

748
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: But I mean I was the most popular in terms

749
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: of like every group knew who the fun I was.

750
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: I know that that silent power, you know, moving in

751
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: the shadows. I think that's where the real power is that.

752
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is that what you want in the future. Yeah,

753
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: I think those were the true like when I was

754
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: and actually, no, I want to be more in the spotlight.

755
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, those were definitely the popular.

756
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: The popular kids that I idolized were the ones that

757
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: had that quiet, cool, usually extremely funny sensibility that that girl,

758
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: who is that girl? Yeah, they were like the theater kids, honestly,

759
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: but I wanted to zip back to the voice thing.

760
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: I want to know y'all's honest take on like this

761
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: thing that they're trying to establish in the documentary, which

762
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: is that the voice that she's been doing on camera

763
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: this whole time is fake. All you know Elizabeth Holmes

764
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: and like she really is like a cool Like the

765
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: documentary was very like she's a normal girl. Look, her

766
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: voice is slightly lower. She like eats take out and like, um,

767
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, enjoys leftovers like I didn't. I don't know.

768
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: I had a hard time kind of buying what they

769
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: were trying to. Now, all the girls, all the girls

770
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: in the early apps had that voice, yes, by Jessica.

771
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: The voice. It was the thing that you like, it's

772
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: kind of annoying, but like like you know, and it's

773
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: a thing that girls are still doing. They're doing. Have

774
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: you ever heard Brittany's real singing voice. There's like a

775
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: concert clip of her one time being like this is

776
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: my real singing voice, and she sounds like totally different

777
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't know. I don't know anyways,

778
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: I I do think, yeah, maybe it was more like

779
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: a manufacturing of like the celebrity celebrities at the time,

780
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: or since you have to have a baby voice, you

781
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: don't understand. I'll never be as pressed as I was

782
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: about celebrities then like now I don't care because it's

783
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: too annoying. It's I know too much. We were we

784
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: were so obsessed. We we wanted to know so much.

785
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Like I mean, this was the time of Perez Hilton

786
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: and oh no they didn't and like this, I mean,

787
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: this was the time where the photographer you could get

788
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars for a photo of one

789
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: of these girls. When they said that they still making

790
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: good money. Now they're still doing good money, but with

791
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: the photos. But it's just like it's more gross now. Yeah,

792
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: things like dumois or like um camera. So it's like

793
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: it's just become democratires. Yeah, And I think in in

794
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: the wake Up the Free Bitney Movement were not everyone,

795
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: but a lot of us have like a slightly more

796
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: nuanced perspective on We watched the documentary and we were like, oh,

797
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: they were so bad. Even though it's like, yeah, people

798
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: are getting in like Princess Diana fucking car crash. We

799
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: never we never learned. We don't we never learned. We

800
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: don't want people are still going a non please and

801
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I don't know. I think that honestly,

802
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: what I was trying to get out with like the

803
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: Paris voice thing is in part because like I feel like,

804
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, to be a celebrity, you do have a

805
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: performance self, and I don't know if that necessarily is

806
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: any less you you know what I mean? Like I

807
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: feel like, um, I when when I was watching the

808
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: doc I felt like I believe that she is like

809
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: an amazing businesswoman and that she has this empire and

810
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: that you know, her voice is really like this or whatever.

811
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: But there was nothing from the documentary maybe because it's

812
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: like so I think it's a little shallow, like it

813
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: didn't really go anywhere where I wanted it to. But

814
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: I felt like, um, there was nothing in the doctor

815
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of proved to me that she was like this

816
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: sole savant genius behind a multimillion of the brain, the

817
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: whole performance of it, that like don't we all do

818
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: a version of that? And isn't that just kind of

819
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: what that that documentary was proving is that like she

820
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: was at least just being a heightened version of herself

821
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: that she knew would make her money. And also it

822
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: was maybe kind of like based on some trauma she

823
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: had and like we all performed versions of ourselves online

824
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: that are like not always a percent authentic to who

825
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: we are, at least not all the time. I think

826
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: that's my problem. My problem is that I'm too transparent

827
00:47:53,239 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: and I'm too like consistent all the way, and I

828
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: need to work on That's why I need a fucking team.

829
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: That's why these people are are thriving because they have

830
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: like a whole circle of people to be like, this

831
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: is this is this is your brand, this is the marketing,

832
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: this is the this is the angle, this is all

833
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: the things that we're going to do to make sure

834
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: that you get to where you need to go. And

835
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: you have all these different branches. It does sound really nice,

836
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: but don't you think there's um, I guess for me,

837
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: there's a fear in that barrier between me and the audience.

838
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Something will be missed that like the people are going

839
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: to like like, I understand that whatever minor platform of

840
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: people who are interested in me exists is because for

841
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: most of the time that I've been on the Internet,

842
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: I have been like completely unfiltered and said everything I think.

843
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: And in recent years I've like gotten more aware of

844
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: censoring myself a little bit because you getting the numbers

845
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: you got like you're getting more. People are seeing you more,

846
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: hearing you more your tweets, Like we have to be

847
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: more present in that because anything can happen. Anybody could

848
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: pull up some ship and you're like, okay, I have

849
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: no job now, so it's different. It's different like the

850
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: unfiltered nous twenty years ago, I couldn't get you in trouble. Now,

851
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: well it's yeah, exactly exactly twenty years later, I can.

852
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I mean I definitely have

853
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: like a performance self. I think that that it's always

854
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: hot always, it's never sad, it's always hot. It's always hot.

855
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: I should I should pivot more to like sad home

856
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: stop it. We have to stop. Like I love people

857
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: being like honest, but then it's like, so what do

858
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: you have for the people in your real life? But

859
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: what And that's that's what I have to work on

860
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: is and that's what I love you. That's what I

861
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: love about the Kardashians. And I don't I can't believe

862
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: that'st a that but like those type of celebrities is like, yes,

863
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: this is that thing that I'm putting out there, and

864
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: then when people meet them in real life, it's something

865
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: else like it should be that it should Yeah, I

866
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: think part of the reason I was kind of a

867
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: allergic to the Paris voice things, just that the whole

868
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: her kind of whole claim was like, this is not me,

869
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: and the documentary is called this is Paris. It's like

870
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: this is the real me and this is the fake me.

871
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, it's all. But then but then

872
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: she's leaned back into it because she did the cooking

873
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: show where she was like doing doing the baby voice again,

874
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: and I think at the very least she's like having

875
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: fun with it again. Um, she has, and that's kind

876
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: of all we want because those are like, those are

877
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: the reasons why we like her, like all the trappings

878
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: of Paris, Like she looms so large in the cultural

879
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: consciousness that it's just smart business to play into it.

880
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: Like it's why I'm sure she, you know, allowed herself

881
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: to be part of like something like the Bling Ring

882
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: where they you know, because names were changed for for

883
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: people in that, but they talked about breaking into Paris's

884
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: house and I'm sure someone had to call her and

885
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: make sure that was okay, and she clearly said yes,

886
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: And I love the Bling Ring. Wait, now, what was

887
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: the Bling Ring. The Blingering is a Sofia couple of

888
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: the movie based on something that really happened, where this

889
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: group of teenagers were breaking into all these famous people's

890
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: houses and stealing their stuff. Yeah, it's I don't think

891
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: the movie is very good, but the story is an

892
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: I think is great. It's Emma Watson and her action,

893
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: but you know, you know you that's also a brand

894
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: of things, like especially in the early Ott's bad but good.

895
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: It's not good. It's bad, but it's still okay, like

896
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: we love it, you know. So I think now everything

897
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: has to be fucking good. Everything has to be so genius,

898
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: it has to have an has to have a message.

899
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's too much. I missed the like good

900
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: old days where you could just so bad, so bad.

901
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: I think that's culture. Yeah, idiot culture. Actually Paris is

902
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: o g idiot simple life the like not. I don't

903
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: see that in a pejorative way, like she's in on

904
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: the joke and I think that it's absurd. Is that's

905
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: kind of also like my point earlier about like flamboyant

906
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: femininity is like culture, yes, or also like look at

907
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: like z Way or like or like something like the

908
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: reason a movie, like legally Blonde as successful as you have,

909
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: like that dichotomy of someone who's like shrewd and incisive

910
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: and intellectual, but also just like I dressed like a barby. Well,

911
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: yes she is, but like, let's be honest, z Way.

912
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, she is a woman that is truly so smart,

913
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: and she has the background and she like went to

914
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: school for all of this, Like it's just different. Like

915
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I think blonds can actually be idiots and then make

916
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: an empire off of it, like still value them, but

917
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: brown girls, like we really do have to have an

918
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: education and we can't just pull off a show like

919
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: z Ways without being the pure genius that she is. Yeah,

920
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: I would love to see interview parents. She would be

921
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: an iconic guy. Paris is a huge influence of hers,

922
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: as well as Stacy. She she I know, she's reached out. Actually,

923
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I would love to see this because Republican not just

924
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: the Republican. She's just like the worst of the worst

925
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: so far. She had the capital on aid for a while.

926
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: She worked at the White House, like in an basically

927
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: fake job. This is what happens when you when you don't.

928
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody who was really big in the

929
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: early two thousands. They feel lost now They're like, what

930
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: can I do to push the needle and be talked

931
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: about and be relevant and get in And Stacy dash

932
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: was literally like Republican like I'm already beautiful, I've already

933
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: done the movies. I'm not singing. What then am I

934
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: going to do? Republican gonna be hand in hand with Trump?

935
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Like that's the only way we would pay her mind truthfully,

936
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: whack yeah, And it did it put her. I wouldn't

937
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: never have thought about her if it weren't for that

938
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: cultural moment. You have to have, like a crazy spiraling

939
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: moment for people like what which makes me wonder about

940
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if there's a connection to like

941
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Paris briefly supporting Trump like I have. I have no

942
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: doubt that Paris is like kind of a good person,

943
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: but like she definitely has some like evil things circulating

944
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: her because she grew up in a wealthy white family. Well,

945
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: I think at the time what she said about it

946
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: is that Trump was like a family friend. Before Trump

947
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: was a president, he was like people were fans of him.

948
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: We have to really get down to the nitty gritty,

949
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: is that he only became an evil guy. When he

950
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: became the president, we all that he was like everything

951
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: you wanted on TV and now you're like, that's in

952
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: the fucking White House. That's the person who's controlling the government.

953
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: Out of here was part of the same part like

954
00:54:52,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: time and reality TV culture that Harris was. Do you

955
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: remember Paris's other reality show? It was the one where

956
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: you were auditioning to be her new best friend, which

957
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, that's so nasty, nasty because

958
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: because Paris basically dumped and called Richie. Yeah, and it

959
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: was basically it was they were fighting huge few I

960
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't know about this, will you mean the top line

961
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: of like how it went down or well, for for me,

962
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics, but I could tell that

963
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: Nicole was going through it like she had. She was

964
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: battling like eating disorder and like drugs, and I mean

965
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: being on something like simple Life and being somebody's you know, sidekick,

966
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: that fox with that fox with everything, and to know

967
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: that she was not the first pig. No, she was

968
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: not the first pig. So I think all that I'm

969
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: sure started to build up to. Yeah, it was also

970
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: just the era of the girls are fighting. There were

971
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: always fighting. There was only it just felt like there

972
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: was us a limited amount of psychic space that these

973
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: women could take up, and they were clawing and scratching

974
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: each other for every intruent they could get, and all

975
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: of us watching, we're just encouraging it because it was

976
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: entertaining to watch. And I think the Paris and Nicole thing,

977
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't even really think there's like a real inciting

978
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: incident outside of you know, one person said something kind

979
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: of bitchy about the other one in the press, and

980
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: then the other one retaliated and it's snowballed from there. Yeah.

981
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: But also again, like you know, being in the public

982
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: eye is very stressful, So I would never want to

983
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: be that famous. I don't. I don't know if I

984
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: want that. I don't. I see how hard I am

985
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: right now, just regular degla. I couldn't imagine, like, you know,

986
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: some paparazzi paparazzi getting me from a bad angle and

987
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: then I'm like, that's everywhere. It's going viral at least now,

988
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: as you know, a humble stand up comedian photographer takes

989
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: a bad angle of me on stage, they're blocked. Yea, yeah,

990
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: I'll be curious to know like what the future of

991
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Paris looks like, because she's kind of projecting like what

992
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: she is going to be now with the DJ staff

993
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: and with this documentary. But like I'm her TV show

994
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: about her getting married, yes, and the marriage the wedding,

995
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: which well it's on like peacock or something that nobody

996
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: has no I mean, just getting me love people. Yeah,

997
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: there's some friends that got stuff on there. I mean,

998
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have it. Well, actually I'm using somebody else.

999
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: I still support. I support, but yeah the wedding boring,

1000
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: like we got to do more, but was there and

1001
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: that those moments for me, whenever they reunite, I get

1002
00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: so happy because I do. I did love their friendships

1003
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: so much and just like just like you, I wanted, Um,

1004
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm more of a Nicole I wanted. I. I also

1005
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: wanted a Paris planacle. I'm definitely on Paris. Unfortunately, we

1006
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: are a Paris and Nicole, you think, and this energy

1007
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: has been top of the line. I mean, because no

1008
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: one's that bad or good. You know, you guys just

1009
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: ping pong off of each other and it's it's feeling good. Yeah. Well,

1010
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean I will be braced for the next problematic thing,

1011
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: maybe that Paris halting. She'll she'll definitely do it. What

1012
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: do you think she'll do? I don't know. I honestly

1013
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: was a little I'm not trying to Honestly, I'm not

1014
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: trying to like demonize or anything problem but I just

1015
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: think that like watching the documentary, which I did like

1016
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: a few like a few days ago, like I was

1017
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: like kind of baffled by a lot of awareness around

1018
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: this whole rebrand thing, but still a lack of awareness

1019
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: around like her wealth and her class and like her

1020
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: place in the world. And like even in the documentary

1021
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: she was wearing like an n white heat had, Like

1022
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: I was just no accountability. I was like, who, I

1023
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: don't necessarily even care unfortunately about accountability from Paris Hilton,

1024
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Like we don't need it, it doesn't matter. I would

1025
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: like to. I think that there is something interesting in

1026
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, I say this on the part of the time,

1027
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: but I'm interested in like white people investigating whiteness, and

1028
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: I think that I don't think that something Paris was

1029
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: aware of, but like it's something that's interesting about her

1030
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: and like the privilege that she has. It's not the band,

1031
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: because it would just be so awkward and we honestly

1032
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. Like there's just some people

1033
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: you we don't need that perspective, and they know that

1034
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: they stay in their lane. And that's why I have

1035
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: to That's why I have to give it to her

1036
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: that she has not come out and try to be

1037
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: one of those people to jump on the bandwagon. If

1038
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: I ever saw Paris Hilton with a Black Lives Matter anything,

1039
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: I would be fucking furious, Like what, I don't want

1040
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: to snatch just share right off or whatever she had

1041
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: a little pin or something. No, absolutely not. It's funny

1042
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: how much we resent celebrities for trying and yet like

1043
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: culturally we demand accountability from people that do that are

1044
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: wrong doing. But I totally agree with you, it's not.

1045
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when I said I don't care

1046
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: about accountability, Like I I don't care if it's like

1047
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: right or wrong, but like I really am. It's like

1048
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch you suffer through. It's kind

1049
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: of like how I felt watching like the Real House

1050
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: as of Salt Lake City or like of Beverly Hills,

1051
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: like trying to have conversations about race. It's like I

1052
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: actually I don't need this from you, you know what

1053
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean. We're here for the ships, you are here

1054
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: for the drama. But like when there's like race relations

1055
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: in reality shows, it's like, Okay, this feels too much

1056
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: like what's actually in the world. And escapism like Harris

1057
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: Hilton is escapism. We want to be stars are blind

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: on the beach, like just just vibes head empty. And

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Speaker 1: you know when I said earlier like a simple life

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Speaker 1: could exist today, I think I said that maybe very

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Speaker 1: um aspirationally, like I kind of wish that we could

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Speaker 1: produce something that is that's stupid or unaware, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, But like it would be the need

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Speaker 1: to be or that the need for us to cancel it.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just like there would there would be no conversation.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a version of the symbol life today where

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Speaker 1: it's like, um, some like liberal queers have to go

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Speaker 1: live and like have to go work at Fox News,

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Speaker 1: like the interns at Fox News or bright Bart. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the simple life. That's actually maybe it's the other

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Speaker 1: way around. Maybe it's like Megan Kelly has to like

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Speaker 1: go go live and like be a part of Juice.

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Speaker 1: That might be funny we might gag. And who's like

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Speaker 1: the Paris Hilton of our I mean, that's like a

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Speaker 1: kind of rudimentary thing to say, but if there's a

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Speaker 1: is there a Paris Hilton of our generation? Emily Morico

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Speaker 1: who's like a wealthy kind of privilege, who's famous for

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Speaker 1: being wealthy. Lily depth Um, I don't even like one

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Speaker 1: of the celebrity kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the

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Speaker 1: say Ellen I was, I don't think the girls got it.

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Speaker 1: They don't get it. They don't have it. When we

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Speaker 1: were talking, they think they do. We're talking about socialites

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Speaker 1: in New York City. I'm talking about like Beatrice in

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Speaker 1: We're going to like the holes in the walls where

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh was this bitch? Everybody's around them like

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Speaker 1: there's no more of that. They just don't have it.

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Speaker 1: They can't move the needle, they don't have the fashion,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the they don't have the thought process.

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Speaker 1: They're certainly trying, but they're not succeeding. So maybe it's

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Speaker 1: like it's like, Okay, maybe they can see this show.

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Speaker 1: It's like Country Brooklyn faggots that have to like go

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Speaker 1: to like mansions and pretend to be rich or something

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Speaker 1: like that. It's like they are talking about it hilly.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing that is the Beverly like simple

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Speaker 1: life was a subversion of Beverly Hillbillies and like Green Acres.

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Speaker 1: So okay, coming back to the Leverty like kids or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Madonna's daughter Lords has got it. But she doesn't. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite have it on the scale that parristed, but

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Speaker 1: she has it the energy of like socialized girl. She's

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Speaker 1: got it. It's not just because she's got hair underneath

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01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: her arms like she's it's something in her that's like

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Speaker 1: I want to be the opposite of everybody and everything

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Speaker 1: that's happening right now. And I think that is a

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Speaker 1: part of being a socialite. Like you're not You're not

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Speaker 1: the masses. You're like a small you're a small group.

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Speaker 1: So she's got it. I think we've got it. I

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Speaker 1: think we all three of us have got it. We

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Speaker 1: could we could be socialites. I think we are socialites

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Speaker 1: in our own ways, socialites in that we never leave

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Speaker 1: our homes and watch people on social No, no, no, no

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Speaker 1: no socialites. This is this is the main thing is

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Speaker 1: we don't know what the funk you do that No

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Speaker 1: one knows what I have power and silence moving in

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Speaker 1: the show. But you've got every look, You've got every label.

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Speaker 1: You're at every like house and event, and people are

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Speaker 1: like taking pictures of you. Who is this bit? Literally,

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Speaker 1: no one I've ever met has been able to accurately

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Speaker 1: identify what I do ever and and we love that

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01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: and you have to keep it that way. And if

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Speaker 1: you get a job, we want you. If I see

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