WEBVTT - Ep. 7 Actress, Neuroscientist, Mom

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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janna Kramer and I heard radio podcast

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to wind down. Okay, So producer Jenna is

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<v Speaker 1>eating Kuffin's right now? What is there so good? And

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't This is not an ad, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a hybrid of a chocolate chip cookie and

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<v Speaker 1>a muffin. Where do you get him at? I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. Amy, my friend Natalie, her kid Lane invented them.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy is in a studio with us today because she's

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with our guests that we have on today. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really obsessed to because Blossom Guys, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up watching that show. And she's like, she's a neuroscientist,

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<v Speaker 1>she's an author, she's an actress, she's a mom, kick

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<v Speaker 1>ass mom. Yeah, she's like she's everything. And Amy is

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with her. So that's why she's here. I'm totally

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with her, her brain, for her brain. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>fascinates me. Girl crushed. What was she impeating? It's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget when I watched Beaches and I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of my bus and I was I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember which tour I was on, but one of

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<v Speaker 1>my band guys came back and he's like, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like it's a good cry, bawling like

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just like, okay, we gotta go on

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<v Speaker 1>in like five minutes. So, like my eyes are tearing

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<v Speaker 1>up just thinking about them. Yeah, I guess they had

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<v Speaker 1>a remake, but I couldn't watch it. I was like, no, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely Beaches like number one, but I cannot. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, like I love Beaches. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good and good cry. I do too. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like a good cry. Yeah, why you I

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know? Just I don't know. Life, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just Father's Day. What did you? What

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<v Speaker 1>did you get my Father's Day? So he got a

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<v Speaker 1>new set of golf clubs and so he's like, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>all I want to do is I just want He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to perfect his golf swing because his dream, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's his dream is for me to get on like

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<v Speaker 1>a hit show and then he can quit his job

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<v Speaker 1>and then he'll be a professional golfer. That's a great train.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you like, I can't even hit the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried. He's like, no, that's not really. He loves

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<v Speaker 1>his job just in case any of his bosses are listening.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, Um, he loves his job. He's just obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with golf and he just like his dream is to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the p g A. And I'm like, great,

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<v Speaker 1>I get more naptime because I just will asleep when

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<v Speaker 1>I watch golf. It's so slow. It's slow. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of boring, but as he loves it. That's his thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, cool, babe, awesome, So golf lessons and um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had a really nice relaxing day. He played

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<v Speaker 1>golf in the morning, so I didn't see him and

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<v Speaker 1>it was nice and relaxing morning. And then he came

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<v Speaker 1>back and we just hung out. He loves to cook,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had some steak. It was good. What it

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<v Speaker 1>was Rocco with daddy. Yes, so he was with his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was one thing, you know, he didn't give me.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't take Rocco to get me a Mother's Day gift.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, although Rocco made me the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>card and a painting at school, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>even it was so special. Um, but I got him

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<v Speaker 1>something so that Rocco could give to him. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a hey, hint for next year right now exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But also my birthday is this week? What when it's

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<v Speaker 1>one and I'm turning forty four, So I scheduled um

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<v Speaker 1>a LiPo suction appointment? What for my birthday? That's my

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<v Speaker 1>birthday gift to me. It's my divorce gift and birthday gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you getting LiPo because I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fantastic. No, I am. I'm going to debate

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<v Speaker 1>this with you because it's not about I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about just good eating and working out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just about working out, but it's about healthy diet.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I do have a healthy diet. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>then and I work out. I'm just old. You will

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<v Speaker 1>see when you end up getting in your forties. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a tummy tuck? No? No, like you're actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to do sucking out like life bye bye. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what he said? He said, I can even if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>I can put it in your button. And I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, I'm asking you to take the fat out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it back. I wonder if that's what

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like what amber Rose does and then those

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<v Speaker 1>they put the fat in there. He said, everyone's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't care. I'm asking you to take

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<v Speaker 1>it out and get throw it out like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that could happen now Like no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you should do. And I think we should actually

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<v Speaker 1>all shame her. It's not. The whole show is to

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<v Speaker 1>not shame. Yeah, that is the whole point of the

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<v Speaker 1>show is do not shame. But I am just advising

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<v Speaker 1>you as your friend. I don't I think is if

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<v Speaker 1>you just continue to maintain a healthy diet and some

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<v Speaker 1>exercise on top of But the diet is my trainer says,

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<v Speaker 1>you can work out every single day, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>eating doesn't change you. Your body will not change. I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know what, I'm vegan, and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>crappy vegan. There's crappy vegans. I'm not that person. I

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<v Speaker 1>um is it just waits from over because I you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like I literally, I'm like, where are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to suck it out from its? We have a great

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just getting my torso sucked out just bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's from being older and I had a baby

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<v Speaker 1>later in life and I'm turning forty four and it's

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday gift to myself. I never brought my birthday

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<v Speaker 1>and it's smart it's smart light BO. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not fully under it's smart light bo. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a smart light. Those section well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this if it's going to it's an investment,

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<v Speaker 1>which means look, I'll say I'll say this if that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to make you feel better about yourself. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's the way you should go. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to make you feel better, then you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do what you want to do. Like my mom

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<v Speaker 1>always said, She's like, I want to tell me talk

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Mom, put down the M and m's

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, fine, But you know over time

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<v Speaker 1>again I don't. I don't when my metabolism it's I

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<v Speaker 1>can already tell it's changing, but it is harder for

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<v Speaker 1>me to lose weight when I want to. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you start to eat crappy after your liposection,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be mad at you and not I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise we'll see Okay, No, I don't know, cramise,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. We'll see No, no, no, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't eat crappy. That's the thing. It's everything also, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's the genes. Just I think everything

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<v Speaker 1>in moderation. Again, like for me, like I always said,

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<v Speaker 1>after I'm done with babies, like I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a boob job, not because I want big boobs, but

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<v Speaker 1>because I just like I hate wearing bras and I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to just have like a full be and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, that would be just be nice, a round,

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<v Speaker 1>full be. And you know everyone's like, no, you shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't do that, but again, it would make me happy,

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<v Speaker 1>So a kind of like make you happy. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't change me if you're I'm telling you, but like no, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about like if that's what's going to make you

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty, I'm not for it. But I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>other ways I've been doing the other ways. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>what You're right, there's no other way to get me

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<v Speaker 1>a big be without you know, adding a little small something.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you give me some of your fat? There

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<v Speaker 1>were good? Oh my god, I wonder if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get a deal three because too um all right, well sorry, Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna we're gonna table that is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to Was that your Yeah, you told me

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<v Speaker 1>that you had something you want to talk about? That

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<v Speaker 1>was it? Like? I mean, I seriously went through It

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<v Speaker 1>took me a week to make the decision. One week, well,

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<v Speaker 1>another week. It took like it took a while, it

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<v Speaker 1>really did. Is there anything else you want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>excited because, um, this is gonna be a fun episode

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<v Speaker 1>because I have someone who I grew up watching and idolizing.

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<v Speaker 1>She is in the studio with us today, also producer Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know it's an amazing guest because producer Amy

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<v Speaker 1>is also here with us because she has more questions

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone. And then you guys, please welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>My m b al Hello. Also known as Blossom. That's sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm gonna say that you were old enough to

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<v Speaker 1>have known that girl. No, I'm almost thirty five. Wow. Yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The joke is I slept in my makeup last night,

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<v Speaker 1>so like for the first time I have like somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>of a glimpse of makeup on. But I just twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years much the same age. It's good. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>so excited because you you have I mean, like you

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<v Speaker 1>have your name, and then it's like, neuroscientist, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>so smart? After well, I'm persistent. You know, having a

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<v Speaker 1>degree doesn't necessarily mean you're smart. It means you're persistent.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've got that degree, which means you're smart. After Blossom,

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<v Speaker 1>I was nineteen in Blossom ended, So I did Blossom

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<v Speaker 1>from fourteen to nineteen. I went to u c l A.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did my undergraduate degree in a science and

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<v Speaker 1>a minor in Hebrew and Jewish studies, which kept my

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<v Speaker 1>g p A up. And then I went directly into

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD program at U c l A, also in neuroscience. Incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>and you come out of that with two children in

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD. I mean, I was telling her, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel stupid next to you because I still

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<v Speaker 1>count like I don't even know the Times table, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're smart enough to know that if your makeup looked

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<v Speaker 1>like that yesterday, your best sleeping it because it looks

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<v Speaker 1>good today. Things yesterday's eyeliner, today's smokey eye. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>what they say, I'm street smart, I'm just not book smart.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, like, how like you were just like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I was just on the most famous TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to be a neuroscientist. Well it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that famous, which is part of why it was seen

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<v Speaker 1>as yeah so Blossom. Yeah, you know. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about what TV was like then, which

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<v Speaker 1>you may not have thought about because you were younger

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<v Speaker 1>than I was, you know, um, the TV watching was

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<v Speaker 1>really really different, and our show was like sometimes in

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<v Speaker 1>the top twenty. But it was not like the love

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<v Speaker 1>full of success of never knowne that. We just we

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<v Speaker 1>never nominated for anything. We never got an Emmy, We

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<v Speaker 1>never got nominated even our writing or directing. So wedicated

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<v Speaker 1>those syndication So actually we were, we were we had

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<v Speaker 1>enough episodes for syndication. But you may notice that our

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<v Speaker 1>show is not syndicated. The way the other shows from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties were. So you can now see it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Hulu picked it up. You can now watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it never had the kind of run that these

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<v Speaker 1>other shows from the from the nineties had. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>the fact is like it was seen, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>different than like Punky Brewster, which was a kids show,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was but it was But Blossom was really

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<v Speaker 1>right at the time though, that was really seen as

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a family sitcom. It wasn't like you

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<v Speaker 1>were considered a serious actor back then. TV was considered

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<v Speaker 1>the lesser of the acting gigs to have, meaning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the way you have like movie stars doing guest spots

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<v Speaker 1>on TV shows now, that was not happening in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was seen as a good thing to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of step away from the industry grow up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with science when I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the set of Blossom, and I really wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated for what was in my head and not what

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<v Speaker 1>I could offer people, you know, in terms of entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>and money. Um, my parents were both teachers, my grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>were immigrants, so I was raised that you go to college.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really felt like a natural thing for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and I wanted to have more of a

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<v Speaker 1>normal life and whatever normal is, Like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's normal, but I certainly was not. Well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was cool about that though, was that you were

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<v Speaker 1>able because a lot of people like, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You were on a hit show, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you went away to college, you became a neuroscientist, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you were able to go back into acting, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is fantastic because a lot of people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of were like, no, you were typecasted as one thing

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<v Speaker 1>like hard. But I mean now you're on another very

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<v Speaker 1>successful show. I mean that was really it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a blessed accident to have been cast in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bang theory. But um, the true story is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after I got my degree, Um I did. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a toddler. I was pregnant with my second son when

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<v Speaker 1>I took my doctorate. When I took my whole I

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<v Speaker 1>was that lady in a doctoralhood like super pregnant. Um so,

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<v Speaker 1>so you were finishing your dissertation while pregnant. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually wrote my dissertation and edited it while nursing my

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<v Speaker 1>first son, and then by the time I submitted my dissertation,

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<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant. I defended my dissertation. Um, I defended

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<v Speaker 1>my dissertation before I got pregnant. But then by the

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<v Speaker 1>time you take your hood, I was Greggor's again. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>was it like baby like, Yeah, I guess I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like most pregnant women just layer out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I was pregnant with my my daughter, Jolia.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I was just like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. I'm just there and you're like getting your

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<v Speaker 1>neural science forgetting degree nursing. Well, I'm very, very human.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not superhuman. Um. But no, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a really important point to like to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that women, you know, we can all do it differently,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And like I loved being home with my

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<v Speaker 1>kids after I got my degree, Like I was home

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<v Speaker 1>with my kids. I was able to be home with

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<v Speaker 1>them because that's what I wanted to do and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that's the way I wanted to raise my children,

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<v Speaker 1>was to be with them in those years. But that's decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be an actress. No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to be a research professor. I stayed home

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<v Speaker 1>with my kids. I taught, I tutored piano, I tutored Hebrew,

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<v Speaker 1>I taught second. Didn't want to do anything with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Sometimes you want to get it great

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<v Speaker 1>for the the experience and the potential. And the fact

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<v Speaker 1>is I didn't know what kind of mom I'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But when that child came out of my body,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I want to be with him rather than

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<v Speaker 1>with someone else's children all day while paying for childcare.

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<v Speaker 1>And some women decide that, and there are women in

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<v Speaker 1>my department who did that. I don't judge, went like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't begrudge on that decision. But I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>how much I was going to love being a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure there were times when I was bored, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were times when I was frustrated, when I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is my purpose in life to be a milk

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<v Speaker 1>factory for this human that doesn't even seem to appreciate it?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's always pooping on me, Like how your nipple

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<v Speaker 1>is raw right now? Like I'm in pain. I don't sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I never got training for this job, and no one

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<v Speaker 1>pays me. And in addition, you don't get health insurance

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<v Speaker 1>from being a mom. So that's actually what I started

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<v Speaker 1>auditioning again, is we were running out of health insurance

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<v Speaker 1>my my now ex hus when we were married at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Um, we were both in school and get

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<v Speaker 1>to later. Um No, we were both in grad school

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<v Speaker 1>and my insurance lapsed. He was finishing his master's thesis.

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<v Speaker 1>And I figured, if I can just like act literally

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<v Speaker 1>this is a true story enough to just get basic

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<v Speaker 1>health insurance for my family, I could still keep teaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to be the at home mom, so

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<v Speaker 1>I started auditioning for things. All the casting directors were

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<v Speaker 1>too young to even remember Blossom, and I was considered like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this child actor, like thanks jacket act. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>started auditioning for characters that had no names. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like girl one, like you know, chubby girl too. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a manager. Her name is Tiffany Kuzon.

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<v Speaker 1>We were actually friends in high school before I was

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<v Speaker 1>even like thinking of becoming an actress again. Later in life,

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<v Speaker 1>we lost touch because in the days before cell phones

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<v Speaker 1>and Facebook, you know, I finished Blossom. She went to

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<v Speaker 1>work at U t A and then she actually took

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<v Speaker 1>me on when I was eight months pregnant with my

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<v Speaker 1>second son. I had a literary project at the management

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<v Speaker 1>firm she was at, and I got to get this message,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany wants to speak to you, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second. We were friends, and she took me

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<v Speaker 1>on and I was like, if this lady believes in

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<v Speaker 1>me eight months pregnant looking like this with no like

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<v Speaker 1>ankle bones showing because I'm so swollen and puffy, she

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<v Speaker 1>must really believe in me. And that's who has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of built my career. Back up your ride or Die.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, She's Ride or Die. So how many years

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<v Speaker 1>was it before you got them Big Bang? Um? Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably about um. I mean it was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a year of just like auditioning for stuff. I did

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<v Speaker 1>an episode of Bones, I did an episode of like

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<v Speaker 1>Saving Grace, like just like you know, some random small things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's huge. That well, I had never seen the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bang theory. I thought it was a talk show or

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<v Speaker 1>like a game show, because someone told me that they

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned me first season, so I figured it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a quiz show. I had no idea, and Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why do I represent someone who doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know like the most popular show on television. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch television. That's how I get so many things done,

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't watch television watching the Kardashians like I

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<v Speaker 1>am no. But you know that has its value as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just not my thing. So um, I googled

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Parsons because the audition said we want a female

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<v Speaker 1>version of Sheldon Cooper and I was like, who's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Google it and I was like, oh, I know people

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<v Speaker 1>like this. I'm like this, so this is And I

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<v Speaker 1>was brought on for one episode the season finale of

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<v Speaker 1>season three and brought back as a regular. Melissa Rause,

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<v Speaker 1>who plays Bernadett, she had a similar thing. She was

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<v Speaker 1>brought on in season three, and we were both made

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<v Speaker 1>regulars in season four and then we just finished eleven. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a pumping working mom. I was still pumping

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<v Speaker 1>um every break for like the first year I was

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<v Speaker 1>on Big Bang Theory. So I would hang my little

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<v Speaker 1>sign on door, you know, woman at work? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>hear exactly? You would hear the cow the cow factory.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really like, that's such a great story because it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it'd be so hard again because you were

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<v Speaker 1>a child actor and now again like, you've you've done

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<v Speaker 1>everything you've wanted to do, So what's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things I want to do? I'm like, what's what is

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<v Speaker 1>that done? Um? Well, I mean there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things I want to do. You know. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>website called grack Nation, which we've kind of expanded out

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of be the miryambiolic version of Goop as

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<v Speaker 1>it were, meaning, um, you know, what if you focused

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<v Speaker 1>on sustainable design choices and sustainable thinking and sustainable living. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what if your emphasis on understanding the news was to

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<v Speaker 1>come from a place of empathy or what if the

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<v Speaker 1>emphasis was on like what can you do to change

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<v Speaker 1>your little corner of the world. That's what we say.

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<v Speaker 1>So I spent a lot of my time on grack Nation. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an editor in chief. Her names Christina Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>and she came from Sassy Magazine, which I used to

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know that for me to check out

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<v Speaker 1>grack nation dot com because christ nic Kelly, who was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was one of the editors and she

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<v Speaker 1>ended up working with Jane and she worked at you

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<v Speaker 1>know why am all these things? She is She's our

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<v Speaker 1>editor in chief and so we're creating a combination of

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<v Speaker 1>like sassy magazine meets like real Simple meets like a

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<v Speaker 1>holistic parentsing kind of place. So I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my time working on the website. I also have

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube channel. Um we just hit four hundred thousand subscribers,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very small in comparison to all these big YouTubers.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I produce a lot of material about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff we're talking about. You know, how

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<v Speaker 1>did I decide when to have children? And why? What's

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<v Speaker 1>it like being a divorced mom? Why am I a

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<v Speaker 1>religious person who also believes in evolution? What's that like?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So making these videos has been a way

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<v Speaker 1>to share a bigger part of myself. Um. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know, is I don't mean to say

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<v Speaker 1>like it's my passion project, but its literally something I

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<v Speaker 1>feel passionately about that I you knows, as we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, it doesn't really make a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something that I believe in putting out into

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<v Speaker 1>a world that is consuming information in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>none of us dreamed of when we were kids or teenagers. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I write, you know, I just boing. I just released

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<v Speaker 1>Bowing Up, which Bowing up. Yeah, your fourth, just for

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<v Speaker 1>so many questions about us. She's a mom to a boy. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a six year old. That's a year Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. Oh yeah, I am waiting for my

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<v Speaker 1>PhD in civil engineering to arrive in the mail. From

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<v Speaker 1>all of the legos, I've felt like, I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much an expert because when my boys were that age. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my favorite thing to do, just because this

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<v Speaker 1>is my personality. We organized the lego by type. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? By color? There are several ways to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You can do it by color and by

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<v Speaker 1>type like they do in the Lego store. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we do is it was just it was out of

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<v Speaker 1>control and I needed to take control. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have a little kind of like a little dresser

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<v Speaker 1>that we keep all our legoing. So I keep all

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<v Speaker 1>of the standard sized pieces in one and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the unusual sized pieces, and then I have separated bodies

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<v Speaker 1>by a type, like so you can have like you

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<v Speaker 1>can mix and I know it's so much fun. And

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<v Speaker 1>then wheels are separation. Yes, it's super fun. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>come over to my house because I still we will

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>make that YouTube video of me organizing your lego. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing I love more than organizing. I'm a Laurel Canyon,

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Canyon perfect. Next Monday, makeup and drink a martini in

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the background. I promised to post a picture of Rocco's

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>lego disaster because my legos look nothing like that. Right.

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm terrified to have a boy because my husband, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was pregnant with Jolie, he got like he's

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<v Speaker 1>he is a grown man. He's thirty one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets he buys legos and my people it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I'm like, babe, like, why are you

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>building a star trek lego thing? And because he can?

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<v Speaker 1>But why because we don't have you just started to

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<v Speaker 1>be don't ask. Just just accept him the way he is.

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.200
<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of people who understanding just sitting there, pieces everywhere,

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, no, you can contend. No, no,

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you need to contain it. There are boundaries we can

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>put need the boundary. Um, he likes Yeah, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lego geek, yes, and does he like dungeons

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and dragons? No? Did I lose you? I was gonna

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 1>make I was gonna make enough friend. I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe in his weird like Lego world

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>he likes sdungeons and dragons to be grateful for a

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>moment that he likes to build legos because that means

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't have correct if you love a boy, Oh good,

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Some girls like to build too. Let's just

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>put it out there. I did into loving the lease

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.199
<v Speaker 1>medotato of when I opened the bottle of wine, and

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 1>then I couldn't Friday night. You know, eight thousand pieces?

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh see that, I get overwhelmed and I get pissed,

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm just like, I'm like, I don't understand

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>where does this piece go? And then he's that's what

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>the diagram is for. Its confusing. I have a silver

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Lego for my small brain, like I am the Lego mom.

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a little silver Lego block on a on a

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>silver chain. Do you drink wine? I do. I drink

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>other things as well. Wine past a certain age gives

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>some people headaches. I'm one of those people, because clearly

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>evolution is like, we don't need you anymore, Like we

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>don't need you to be attractive. We're gonna make like

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>weird skin gather weird ways We're gonna put like dark

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 1>spots on your face. Your breasts will never be at

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>attention anymore. And also you can't go on roller coasters

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>or drink wine without getting a headache. Is that not

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>what it's like being a humans? Also, if you sprain

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>your ankle, you will be out of commission for eight months.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>For you just you turned and all of a sudden

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>for three d You're like, how old are you? Don't

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you laugh? But something? Also your eyes will go like

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to see anymore. You have already given

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 1>us your eggs were done. We're done. You don't need

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>to read anything or go anywhere or see a menu.

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>We're going to break and I really want to talk

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>about the F word when we come back, not that one,

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>not the same fame. Okay, I was gonna well, never mind,

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>my um love you, but I gotta take a break,

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>baby for just one second to tell you about what

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>my husband is obsessed with and also me. But you know,

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>my husband does most of the cooking in the household,

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's obsessed with Hella fresh groceries get delivered to

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the door, Go online, you pick out the meals you want.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>How many meals a week you want. It's fantastic because

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>there's no extra groceries and produce second way bad exactly.

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I love about it because there's no

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>ways you get exactly what you need. And for me,

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>because I'm I'm just not good at new recipes, but

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to learn. How do you know things? And

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to come up with the idea I know,

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's just appears and it's like and here's you

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>know this, these are the ingredients and this stu to

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>put in and I'm like, wow, this is fantastic. And

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>my husband's actually remade some of them on his own

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>because he knows, like he loves them so much. So

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge advocate for Hello Fresh and I think

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>they're fantastic. And again, you know, it's great for my

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>my daughter too. She loves she loves the meals and

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>it's great because it's fuss free and it's just makes

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 1>dinner so easy. It's thirty minutes, I mean, and it's fresh.

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It's fresh fresh, And there's vegetarian boxes. There's which one

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>do you guys get? There's classic family and vegetarian and

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>we we do the classic family. Cool. Yeah, what kind

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of like, what's your favorite what has been your favorite meal?

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I love the balsamic burger, and my husband loves the

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>pineapple chicken with the rice and the green beans. But

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Julie Jolie likes mac and cheese. But yeah, but she

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>really really liked the jasmine rice that was with the

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>pineapple chicken meal. Jasmine rice. That sounds really good. Which, um,

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>all the ingredients come pre measured in handy labeled meal cats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so easy for thirty dollars off your first week

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<v Speaker 1>of Hello Fresh, visit Hello Fresh dot com slash cramer

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and enter cramer thirty. That's Hello Fresh dot com

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>slash Cramer thirty and enter cramer. Also, you know what's

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>really great about this, there's a ton of one pot

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>recipes that way less clean up. It's like one pot.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>You're cooking everything in one pot. Oh I didn't know that.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great. I thought it was like a one

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<v Speaker 1>pot like for the one Lonely one lonely divorced. No

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>one pot. But I think maybe I don't know if

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>there is just for one, but that would be kind

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of great for my one Wednesday. I might get one day.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, that's thirty dollars off your first week of

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Fresh. Visit Hello Fresh dot com slash Cramer thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and to Cramer thirty. Well then okay, girls, here I

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>will I will bring legos. No here, no time out,

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>y'all bring the legos and I'm gonna bringing it. Ay.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what happen in what's the word fame? What is

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it like? How have you navigated? She navigated the back uh,

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the back entrance of the extradited passport. I didn't even

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>ask for that. You know, there's that song, um, I

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>took a pill in a visa and it is about fame,

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and I always like, I didn't take a pill in

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a visa. Um, But you know, there are things in

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that song that I talked about with my boys, because

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he says, you don't want to be high like this

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>right like, and you don't want to be stuck up

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>on that stage saying all I know is sad songs.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, like, it gives me chills, because, um,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>there are certain things that are amazing about fame, and

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>no one wants to hear famous people be like, oh man,

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that is so hard. But there are aspects to the

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>loneliness you feel when everybody loves you, but you're still

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a human. And I remember when I saw like the

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga documentary that was it was super tough, but

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>there was something she said that struck me. So she said,

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like everybody loves you, and you hang out with them

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>all the day, like you know, and everything's right. But

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>she said, then everybody goes home, you know, and like

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and at this point in her life she's like, and

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm alone, like, you know, and even if you have

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>someone to love, you know, there's that sense of being human,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, that touches all of us. So like when

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>my dad died three years ago, like that was still

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think you that was still my dad dying and having

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that experience as a human. Fame doesn't protect you from

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>being human, you know. It adds all these layers that

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>are really interesting. But when you have kids, that's like

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a whole other conversation, you know, Like my older son especially,

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>like why can't I be on your Instagram page? All

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>my friends are on their mom's Instagram. It's like, because

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't. That's why. Because you didn't choose this life,

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and there are consequences of this life that you don't

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>think about you don't get to play as freely at

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the park because if I have to wonder that people

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>know what your face looks like, you know, you don't

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>want to scare them. But fame also comes with like

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>all these decisions about like security and blah blah blah.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, where you live, you have to do, you

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>have to be when you're traveling different. Yeah, it's different,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's a scary world. And I don't

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>mean to like make people scared or make my children scared,

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, fame, Fame provides people access to your life,

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>um that you can't take back, you know. And part

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of my decision to to to work on crack Nation

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and to have this YouTube channel is the notion that

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to kind of suspend a lot of that

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>fear in the belief that I can provide something that

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>might be entertaining or interesting or helpful to someone you know,

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and also inspiring and helping the new generation. Right, And

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>like I can show you all the ways that I

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>cut an avocado, and that might get a million hits, um,

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>but that's not That's not what I'm interested in, you know.

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in talking about issues that are important that

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>make people think and that start conversations. And you know

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>in the research that that my team does you know

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that that might well know he's sitting right there, um

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that that. But there's there's research that has to be

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>done about what do people want? What do people want

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>from you and from your people don't right, and they

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.959
<v Speaker 1>don't need to see you know, my like morning toothbrush

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like routine, but like to see parts of me that

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>are that are hard to share is not something that

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>we do for ratings, right, It's something like it's trying

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to make the world smaller in healthy ways, you know,

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>using the internet to connect in ways that that don't

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>make fame. This kind of like isolating burden you because

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to be. I don't want to

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>live my life like that. Life is with people, you know,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but it has its parks too. Yeah, Well, like the

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>passport expositing thing, I didn't know there's a thing. But

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>also I think they were concerned that not that I

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>would start a riot in the federal building, you know,

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but like there's a lot of people and like it

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>could be distracting, absolutely if that became a thing. But

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I still like I go out, I mean, you know,

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>being an unadorned woman when you choose to be actually

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>has its perks, you know, like there are ways to

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>be more recognizable, there are ways to be less recognizable.

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I happened to be in full hair and makeup when

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I went to the Federal Building because I had a

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>day of publicity and I literally was like squeezing it

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>in between three interviews. So my kids aren't used to

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>be looking like that. I mean while I walk into

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the Federal Building like you know, in my like crappy

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>espadrils and like a crappy T shirt. But with full

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup, you're more recognizable that way for sure,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and yours were very thrilled the Federal Building. Is it

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>harder to date? Um? Yes, I mean some would say

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>it's impossible the date unless you use like one of

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>these sites like Rya or whatever. Um is that how

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you met your No? No, I'm friends with eliza'schlessinger, who

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>did you know, very publicly meet her her wonderful husband

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>on Riya. And the funny story about that is that

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I tried to get on Riya and they wouldn't answer

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>my emails. What my publicist email? So the way you

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.919
<v Speaker 1>get people there. Don't don't don't because I like there's

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>something on there, like why is this person? Are you

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>not happen? I will take that straight to my therapist,

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but like, why would they have all these people? But

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>we literally my publicist email twice. I email. We never

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>got a response back, and I was like, Okay, I

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>guess I won't do that. Have got to be kidding

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like, well, we probably need to reach

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>out and do something with them, But yeah, I have.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I actually just wrote a script for my YouTube channel

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>about I did try online dating and it was hilarious.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>BIA is basically celebrities. It's a celebrity dating site, so

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you have to have the blue check mark and you

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>have to have so many followers in ye, but they

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>also verify you if you have a very large bank account,

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 1>and there's a certain with all due respect to all

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>kinds of people in the industry, there's a certain kind

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of woman in particular and man that they want on

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that site, of course, raise the profile of their site.

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating. But I tried using a different um online

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>dating service. It was it was not that I did.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I did, Okay, keep it and someone was like, why

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>are you using Jenna Gramer's photo, and I'm like, it

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is a little awkward. There's also there's a I think

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a Jewish online dating site called saw You at

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Sinai because the notion is that the mystical notion is

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that all of the Jewish people stood at the base

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>amount sign I win the ten Commandments were handed down,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>which is just like a cool mystic, but a notion

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that someone was like, that's the name, like saw you

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>at Sinai? It's a Dorb's and him where did you

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>meet them? I don't. I don't tell about how I

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>met him. Was it romantic? Um? It was romantic in

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like a start of a poor no script kind of way.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I like it. He's a carpenter. He's a carpenter anyway,

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>So I don't. I haven't ever, you know, talked more

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>about it. But but I've been divorced for it will

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>be six years is great, so sometimes, you know, So

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I've I've heard about this from from married friends of mine,

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.959
<v Speaker 1>and especially from from women who who got married young

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and not didn't necessarily get to do the things that

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to. And with the much needed progress of

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the women's movement, which is progressing every day. Still, you know,

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we're still learning new ways to assert our needs and

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>our desires. I do hear this from some friends of mine,

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>like what's it like? You know, what's it like to

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>be alone in your home and get to do whatever

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to do with no one interrupting? You know, Um,

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a very strange sense of independence. And you know,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>my ex husband we were married when we were together

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>almost fifteen years and we were married for almost ten

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>of them. And you know, my ex husband is the

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>at home dad. You know, I'm the working parent, which

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>is what it was like when we were married. But um,

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he homeschools our boys, like he gives his

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>life for them. It's really it's really incredible. But you know,

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>our lives are very different. Like we're we're with our

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 1>kids a lot, and um, you know when your homeschool,

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of around a lot. But um, you know,

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we've both kind of learned new ways to to exercise

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>things about ourselves that that weren't exercised, you know, and

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't work. Um, there were a lot of things. And

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not something I have talked about and

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>probably may not plan to unless I read a book

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>about it, which might happen. Um, but five million. But

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 1>also I mean I think that, you know, I think

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that we were friends before we started dating. We were

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>friends for a year and a half, and right now

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it does feel like we're best friends raising kids together

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>because even though we've been divorced for six years, like

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>we are still we're still responsible for them together, and

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. That's the dream. Yeah, I mean, but and

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>again and it right, but it comes with also this

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like other life that you get to have, you know.

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And my son said to me the other day, he

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, Wema, remember when we used to travel all

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the time. We used to all get on an airplane

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and go to New York. I missed those days. I

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, we we can't do that. We

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>are taking a divorced family trip to Israel next week,

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>which is how long are you do? Um, we're going

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>for ten days. My kids have been before, but my

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>older son's going to be bitsfod here in September, and

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to like my X and I are taking

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>our mom's and we want that picture of like we

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>went to Israel for man friend and I went three

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>months ago to Israel, Like, so this is not a

0:38:55.080 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>trip for um, no girlfriend. I won't speak to that

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>because he gets to have his privacy, Like I wouldn't

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>violate his privacy. But I know that, like what I

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>most want is for him to be happy. And I

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>never like knew I could feel that so deeply, you know. Um,

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and there's not you know obviously, like all

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>sorts of gossipy places have things to say about like

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh it must be because they slept with

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>their kids in their bed. It's like no, plenty of

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>people you know, share sleep with their kids and don't

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>get divorced. Like it's not really you know, the business

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of the gossip universe and and you know, and everything

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that I've said, you know about our marriage, and you

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>know on grack nation and on YouTube. Um, those are

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>things that he approves. He approves every post, every video

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that is even vaguely about him or the boys. We

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>made the decision to have them on the cover together.

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And if he would have said, you know what, I

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want them on the cover, I would have respected that.

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's great that you guys are working

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>together like that. We're told that we're the most amazing

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>divorced couple of people now, like it's kind of crazy.

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's great. My situation is a little different.

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I have to say. Yeah, I hope in five years

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it gets to that place definitely. And I'm not saying

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all like like there are a lot of times

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that I'm frustrated. He clearly like there's a lot about

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>my energy that annoyed him when we were married. It

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>still annoys him. You know, there's a lot about his personality,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know, but it's but again, it's like we're

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 1>just humans. Like we're humans and there's no dress, like

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the dress rehearsal. This is our kid's life.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>They get it once they get one opportunity to learn

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>how to speak about other people and to learn how

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to like work through adversity and to be heard, you know,

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and like when my sons saying like I

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>missed blah blah blah. Yeah I missed that too, you know,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I missed data. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. Did you

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>ever consider staying together for them? Not that I think

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the right thing. Yeah, I mean, like you know,

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like Louis Kay says, like, no, happy couple gets divorced.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, don't be sad when people get divorced. It's

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.879
<v Speaker 1>like that's that's because they've tried everything in their experience

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>UM and those things didn't work. And you know a

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, like the celebrities, they just think it's like, no,

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we're people. We did all the things. We went to there,

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like we do all those things. We went to therapy

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>through our divorce, which is really interesting and I think

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it's really probably really helpful. It was very help It

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>was very helpful. We still speak to a family therapist UM,

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes together, sometimes separate if things come up, because we

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>need that support. It's not that like, oh we're so

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>rich we afford it. No, like we we seek out

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>support even from you know, people that do it, meaning

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>from people who have been through it. It's so important

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to find what worked for other people and then to

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.439
<v Speaker 1>adjust it to make you know what works for you.

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I find that people when I say, oh, no, I'm

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>getting divorced, they'll say, oh, I'm so sorry, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, I'm so happy. Exactly right, okay, Amy, Sorry,

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>She's like she needs this is where I sitting on

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>my lap, right now, everyone's straddling me, and her nose

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is like a centimeter from my nose. This is what

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to sort of understand. I don't even know

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna be able to ask it right, and

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you can help me through it. Just so you

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>guys know, Amy is really smart and super mar and

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's my downfall because I try to like

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>overthink everything, Like I spend a lot of time googling

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>how to stop overthinking, like so then I you should

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>google how to stop googling things. And I spend two

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>hours reading about how to not think, how to think

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>myself out of thinking right. And I think that's I mean,

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>part of the works, part of the you know, blessing

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of having an active mind, um is that we want

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to work through everything and we want to believe there's

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a solution to everything. And I think one of the

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>things that I've gained with you know, experience and hopefully maturity,

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>which I'm a very immature person, you know, Like I

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>still think burping is funny, um as I'm doing it

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 1>literally right now and I'm trying no, But I think

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I've learned is that, um, there

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 1>are certain things that cannot be figured out by the

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>power of my brain. And what it is. What it

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of times is that we want to

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>control something because it feels so unpleasant to not be

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>able to and that's the thing that we try and do.

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>And it can ruin relationships. It can ruin your relationship

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>with your kids. It was really hard on my relationship

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>with my parents. And it wasn't until my dad was

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>dying that I was like, oh, I best figure this

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>out in these three years. Right now. I figured out

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes you have to The expression is like let

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>go and let God, you know, no, But the fact

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>for me as a person of faith, like I actually

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>do resonant and it doesn't have to be a religious

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>or a Judeo Christian or a patriarchal faith. But the

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>notion that there are things we can't explain and sometimes

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.439
<v Speaker 1>they have an organic existence that is beyond our need

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>to control them that can be really empowering. You know,

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people feel like, oh, surrenders a sign

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of weakness. For me, surrenders a sign of strength, because

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it's literally like, that's the point that that's why people

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>structured religion the way we did, because like I can't

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>hold this, I can't think my way out of my pain.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just have to feel your feelings and like

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's therapy. And that's what we were told with

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the divorce and particular, when your children are crying for

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>their father, don't have them make a card for him,

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have them watch a movie, don't give them a snack,

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>because that's setting them up for a lifetime of eating.

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>What I was told to do is say, yes, it hurts,

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it's sad. Can I hold you? That's it? And it's

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>so hard because I want to be like, oh, here's

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the key chain I'll make you that makes you not

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 1>miss your father, and like, oh, wait a second. They

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>miss him because they're human, and if I try and

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 1>interrupt it, it teaches them to substitute. It teaches them like, oh,

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is there a drink that makes it better? Is there

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a pill that makes it better? Is there a TV

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>show that makes it better? Is there a food that

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>makes it? Oh? You so badly want to feed them

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>when they're sad. Oh you do, But that's messed up

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>because when I'm sad, it's really important message because I

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>do that to them, and that's why sometimes I drink wine.

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is my ing it. That's that's we

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>all self medicating in some way. It's either TV or

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>or its video games, or it's sacks or it's or

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it's flirting. You know. Some men to some some women

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>really love like that energy of like he wants me,

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I don't think, oh maybe he does,

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like oh you're that woman, right, everybody's got their things.

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>She's smart and she's sexy. I might be that because

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>like even today, I'm like I want to text him

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>so bad, and so I'm just like I want to

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>not text so that I'm not like an addict. It

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>feels addict. Well, you're that's a love addiction, which I

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 1>cannot wait to talk about at some point. But oh,

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be so juicy. Sea gives me that like, yeah,

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that hits or very good smart, don't say that. No,

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>it's feeding your endorphins every single time you because that's

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>your hit that you're trying to get back. You need it. Yeah,

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>And it's like yeah, and that's love addiction. What I

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.879
<v Speaker 1>learned because I'm a love addict things is that hit

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't last because that will last a week last like

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple hours doesn't last, and then themes just a second,

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so bad. And then the other thing I learned

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear you talk about when she's still

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>sitting in her lap, you're inviting me back. I think

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you're inviting me back her because you're smart and spiritual

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and emotional, which you don't usually get all that. I'm

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole package. Would you like a room women women,

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and don't don't touch me? There? You can be on

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 1>my lap, but don't touch I. Men tend to say

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like everything would be great if he only would do

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, that's called the heaths, and that's like literally

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the worst thing you can do. Okay, Well, well, I

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.720
<v Speaker 1>mean honestly, that's that's a that's a symptom of any

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>addiction or any codependency, like and there's science behind this

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that like I would be okay if you know, and

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things are you know, codependency is

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, it's this term like, oh,

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm codependent, But the truth is that codependency, by definition,

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>if you take the quizzes online, you know, codependency by

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.720
<v Speaker 1>definition is I'm only okay if you're okay, or meaning

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if like, if you're doing what I want you to do,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like that's okay, and that I mean honestly, that's the

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>root of what drives a lot of people to drink,

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to use drugs, to use sex, because the idea is

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't like what it feels like to not have that.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 1>So people say, like for people who are alcoholic, right, um,

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the problem is not drinking. The problem is sobriety. Like,

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>people don't like what it feels like to be sober,

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.720
<v Speaker 1>so they drink. So people don't like what it feels

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like to be alone, so they keep pursuing people. People

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like what it feels like to have to live

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>as a human, so we take drugs. You know, I mean,

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, I think a lot of women and

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure men, but I can only speak for women

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like text there significant other whatever they text. But I've

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>learned what I'm really saying is like, am I okay? Ye?

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Make me happy? Am I good enough? Am I okay? Yeah?

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>We need also need a whole episode on codependency and

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>love addiction, because yes, and part of it is how

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>we're raised. I was raised. I mean, my mom was

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>a very old fashioned you know. She was born in

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the forties, very old fashioned. I was raised that the

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>way you please a man is to cook for him,

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to iron his handkerchiefs, to make sure every like food's

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>on the table, don't disturb and when he gets home,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>like my dad, my dad was a public school teacher, um,

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and he would come home and it was like, do

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>not speak to your father for the next ninety minutes.

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>He needs to lay down and relax. And it's like,

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>but mom, you've been scrubbing toilets all day and teaching,

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>making us breakfast and lunch, and now you're going to

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>make dinner and he needs a nap. You need a nap. Yeah,

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>So I don't marriage. That's the thing. Like we're programmed

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. And people are like, oh, women's movement, we

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 1>still got a long way to go forget about like

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>me too and all this which is so important. There

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>are basics in our home of how we think about

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like I still want to approval from my ex husband

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.240
<v Speaker 1>about like what I'm gonna wear to our kids photo

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>exhibits up bringing your childhood try And then we ended

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>up dressing like twins. Accidentally. I'm like, this is awkward.

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>My ex husband and I were twins at the photo exhibit,

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and I had to say in a man friend, I'm like,

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>we didn't plan this. My ex husband and I are twins.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We didn't plan it. I think great. All three of

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you address the same serious Okay, I seriously want you

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>back because I think you're fantastic. But in the meantime,

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>where can our listeners find you? Our listeners can find me.

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Let's see at grap nation dot com. I miss my

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, g r okay Nation. To grack means to

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 1>understand something super, super deeply and intimately so that it

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>becomes part of you. When you say that, all I

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>think of this sassy, Oh well you should so, yes,

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>grap Nation, I miss my um on all my, what's

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.839
<v Speaker 1>it called social media? Everything? You have your right if

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you have if you have a boy or we're a boy,

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but especially if you have a boy or want to

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>understand men. This is the process by which boys become men,

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and it actually informs a lot of adult male behavior

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 1>as well. And if you have a girl growing up?

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Was its companion um that I wrote a year ago,

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's also about the process of you know, it's

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the psychology and the sociology of being female, and then

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I did basically the same for boys, with an emphasis

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>on the mixed messages girls get in our culture for

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 1>growing up um and then for bowing up the mixed

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 1>messages the boys get like be aggressive, not too aggressive,

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:02.799
<v Speaker 1>you know it would be nice, not too nice. Be

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 1>sweet not too sweet, you know, like musical theater but

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>not too much. Don't cry, don't cry or cry? You

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.799
<v Speaker 1>right right? I love it. Well, thank you so much,

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you an interesting group of women, really really really nice. Dude.

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>She's awesome. I love her. If she really comes over

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and organizes my my eight five thousand million legos that

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>are in five different areas of the house, it is

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a game changer. My life will be changed. I want

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to see four. She seems like she would. I think

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 1>she seemed like she was just like, hey, Amy, what,

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I just feel like I made me so happy.

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I think she liked I know. I want to drink

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Scotch with her. You're like that girl that's like, oh

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>my god, the popular girl like I'm gonna be fried

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>my hair? Can we get Drew barrymore in next? She

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>is on my friend list, and he's like, Okay, but

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>she was curious. I just love how honest she is

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>about struggles, which is great because she's not like, oh yeah, Thames,

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like Sames. Great. She's she keeps it real, which

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I love, but she also keeps she keeps enough of

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a wall to still be relatable. That makes absolutely She's

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>so authentic. She's so authentic. She's so cool, you know,

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I was. There's something that she said though that made

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>me question what I've been doing because my daughter is

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 1>everywhere on Instagram. And she said that you know she

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>does an Instagram or boys, because that's not the life

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that they chose. And I'm just like, wow, that really

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>start a chord with me, because I will I'll never

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>forget this. We were at Disneyland or no disney World

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 1>and someone went up to Joe Ling goes, Jolie, can

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a picture with you? Did not even ask

0:51:57.920 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>for a picture with me, Like I went to get

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>into picture. No, no, just with Jolie and that's scary,

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't like that. But but

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it's my fault because I've put her up on Instagram

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>so much, but I've just wanted to like share motherhood

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and her But she didn't. She didn't ask to be

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 1>on my Instagram, she didn't ask to be all over

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>my social So now I'm just like, am I doing

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>something wrong? I don't think so, because I do it

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>as well. Although I'm not famous, so it's very different.

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>You're famous in a like, like a different way. I'm

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>famous in my family. You're like, it's like they asked

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you like a million questions about Ryan Seacrest in Detroit.

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm famous, yeah, because I'm from Detroit. You know that

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:47.239
<v Speaker 1>we're from Michigan. Oh yeah, I know, it's weird. It's air.

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But no, but so so you do the same thing. No,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's all over my Instagram. And the only

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>thing I'm very careful about is I never post a

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>location with his picture or something that is recognizable, because

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that either. But I mean, it was

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:08.479
<v Speaker 1>very clear that we were at Disney World, you know. Yeah,

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, it's it's scary and in my

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>daytime TV talk days when I worked at one of

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.760
<v Speaker 1>those big shows that I used to have these guests

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>on and people would write it, I'm not going to

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:27.440
<v Speaker 1>say a doctor. It's a it was a doctor. And anyways,

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 1>there's only one, so it's fine as well, just say bill, okay.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember there's this one story that stood out. Um,

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody wrote in that she found a website and a

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Facebook page where somebody had stolen all of her family

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>pictures and she was catfishing people and pretending to have

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 1>this family with these children, and that freaks me the

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:00.760
<v Speaker 1>f out. Someone someone did a pay age for Jolie

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and I immediately sent it to my manager, Catherine. I

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, to have them take this down. She's like, well,

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's kind of one of those things where

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like these photos are public, click they can do

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>somehow hover they want to shut down. But still, I

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>mean someone else could. So it's like, yeah, that's just scary.

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It's scary. But I don't know what the balance is

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>because I love sharing Jolie. I know she's so cute.

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean her like dance recital, Like I loved every

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>moment of that, like sharing that with people. So I

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I guess I just again like location thing,

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>which I don't do. But still, it's just but it's

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.719
<v Speaker 1>just a very interesting. When she said that, that made

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 1>me kind of go, oh, you can always start. I

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>have a friend who is is a huge folloween. He's

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a radio radio personality. He's a dad, his entire um fatherhood.

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Of his daughters, he's always put something over their face

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 1>or made their hair cover their face, or put in

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>emoji over their face. I don't want to do that.

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm just saying, you have options, but again,

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>like I love it because she's so darn cute. So

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I will say this. I was watching

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Regis and not Regis and Kelly's Louise Kelly and Ryan Sorry,

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and Kelly Rippa said that her daughter Lola Um. She

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, you cannot post my prom picture on Instagram.

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I think when Julie comes to the age

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 1>where she says, mom, I don't want you doing this,

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>or I'll even ask her like is it okay? Like

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>if I post this photo like I want her to have,

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>then she can make she can make a say. But

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>until that, sorry, girl, you're getting plastered all my stuff.

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I get the most likes when you're in it, right,

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Puppies and babies, puppies and babies, Like I mean again,

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I just I want to share that. But when she

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>gets that age where she says, Mommy, I don't want

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you to do that. I'll not do it. But then

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I love Kelly's relationship with Lola. I'm like,

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>oh man, that's gonna be me, and it's gonna be

0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.759
<v Speaker 1>me and Julie just going at it. You are going

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to yeah, speaking of like you just have a different

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>relationship with girls and you do sons like daughters and

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:10.439
<v Speaker 1>you do sons. Sons are very um just I mean,

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're just mostly mama's like Mama boys, Mama's boy.

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 1>What is it Mama's boys, Mama boy, mama by mama's boys.

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:23.760
<v Speaker 1>What did you take the most from mine? I love

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:28.840
<v Speaker 1>how grounded she is in how she walks through life,

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Like her journey is so balanced with cognitive you know her,

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like the way she weirdness, the way she thinks she's

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>scientific yet spiritual. Um, she just seems so grounded in

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the way she makes decisions and walks through life. And

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Um. I could really resonate with everything

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>she was saying, because I try and be that. I

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 1>try and be a rooted tree that just sways in

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the wind. But were you kind of upset about not

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 1>upset but envious of the relationship that she has with her.

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not envious, but I'm I'm just fascinated by it,

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like how they can be like so close because I

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.319
<v Speaker 1>think you guys are just too new. I think it's

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 1>too new, and I don't. I mean, I was like

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>when I was thinking about it, I was like, I don't.

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be maybe like not not now

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's too fresh. But yeah, and I

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 1>think Amy. What Amy mostly got out of it was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she's not going to text her man friend, right,

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to let that one she has a new ve. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. Okay, so let's talk about brushing your teeth everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth is most of us are brushing our teeth wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And I I knew that. You. I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to brush your teeth for two minutes, but I

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<v Speaker 1>never do. I never do either. I try and sing

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<v Speaker 1>the alphabet in my head three times, like did you

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<v Speaker 1>give you trying to go really fast? Yes, but two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes is actually a long time. It's I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a super long time. Yeah. So I like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this toothbrush holds me accountable for brushing my teeth

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<v Speaker 1>for two minutes. Um, it's really cute. It comes in

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<v Speaker 1>rose gold. It was also Oprah's favorite favorite things, which

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<v Speaker 1>I which if Oprah says she loves it, then I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Well. She jumps, I jump whatever whatever she

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<v Speaker 1>does whenever she's brush with that. So UM, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fantastic Quip as an electric toothbrush that's a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>And I love clean teeth. So Dennis recommended two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>amazing pulses. Um. The Equip subscription plans are for your health,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds gross, but like I never I ain't changed my teethbrush,

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<v Speaker 1>like feel hard toothbrush that you love, and then every

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<v Speaker 1>Quip also comes with amount that suctions right to your

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<v Speaker 1>it's super small too, so it's just super convenient. Um

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I love today's show. I hope everyone liked

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<v Speaker 1>it and laughed as much as we did. But next

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<v Speaker 1>week is going to be a very um important episode

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<v Speaker 1>for me and um Jenny, you don't even know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even I have no idea there's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe I'm going to have to wait a whole week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so unfair. Well, I told, I told Jen and

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<v Speaker 1>Amy the producers. I said, there's something that I need

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<v Speaker 1>to share and I it's a very big announcement and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do it on the podcast. So next week, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>listen up because I want to share it with y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>So I cannot wait, you're gonna have to wait. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's torture. Yeah, I'm going to be time to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like, what is tell me. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>worst secret keeper of other people's secrets, but like with mine,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nope, not telling you, but no, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited to share uh, to share this with you guys. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just uh oh, she's excited. That means it's good. Um. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we'll see awesome. All right, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Foo