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Speaker 2: coming up today. Also special postings online. I was on

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Speaker 2: CNN last night Alexmichaelson's show, The Story is Paired up

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Speaker 2: with Lisa Bloom again and we covered the Ice shooting

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Speaker 2: and the Spencer Pratt and the fire in the Palisades

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Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom's speech. It was a pretty lively ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to more on that, because I've got some

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Speaker 2: clips to play later on in the show. Now, the

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Speaker 2: big story this morning is a continuation, or this afternoon

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Speaker 2: is the video they came out this morning about the

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis Ice shooting.

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Speaker 1: And you know, a while back.

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Speaker 2: As the world transitioned into immediate news twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 2: and journalists stop checking to see what's true, and people

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Speaker 2: started putting up raw video, raw audio. They would put

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Speaker 2: news stories without double sourcing, with with anonymous sourcing, and

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Speaker 2: everything got really sloppy, and suddenly you couldn't trust what

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Speaker 2: anybody was saying on television, radio, on the Internet, or

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Speaker 2: in the newspapers or the internet news sites. Right where

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Speaker 2: there used to be like a rigid vetting process before

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Speaker 2: the information went out. They'd have layers of editors and producers,

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Speaker 2: and you had to be double sourced, and you have

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Speaker 2: Suddenly everything went out the window. And now stuff just

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Speaker 2: gets served up, and you don't know what's true and

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Speaker 2: what's false. And now everybody feels obligated. The whole world does, right,

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Speaker 2: not just if you work in radio, TV, but the

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Speaker 2: whole world feels obligated to go online and offer their

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Speaker 2: definitive opinion of what happened and how horrible it is

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Speaker 2: or how wonderful it is. So after this got rolling

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Speaker 2: for a short time, Ken and I I think Ken

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Speaker 2: came up with the concept of the three day rule.

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Speaker 2: Before we we'll tell you what happened, but before we're

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Speaker 2: going to start giving you an opinion, We're going to

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Speaker 2: wait three days. See if we got the full store, sorry,

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Speaker 2: see if what we're experiencing is real.

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Speaker 1: Because now there are these industries.

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Speaker 2: That have been created to distort news very quickly, and

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Speaker 2: battle lines are drawn, propaganda narratives are created, and it's

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Speaker 2: tough to fight.

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Speaker 1: For the truth.

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Speaker 2: This really is a three day rule situation right here,

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Speaker 2: because on Wednesday, I think we were on the air,

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Speaker 2: weren't we when the original story broke about that Minneapolis

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Speaker 2: woman getting getting shot and killed by the ice agent,

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Speaker 2: and just you know, the first few hours are just

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Speaker 2: trying to get a handle of the basics of the story.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Debor does right you were You were getting

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Speaker 2: details coming in every few minutes, and it changes quickly too,

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Speaker 2: and and and if you take you know, the original details,

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Speaker 2: you'll find out an hour later you're you're telling a

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Speaker 2: slightly different story, and a slightly different story an hour

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Speaker 2: later than that. Then yesterday, it's like, all right, there

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Speaker 2: weren't sure if the woman actually hit him or not

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Speaker 2: was she intending to hit him? And you know, of

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Speaker 2: course everybody's screaming their opinions, everybody's taken sides. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: politicians are already fundraising off it.

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Speaker 1: Day three.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's interesting how that three day we just made

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Speaker 2: it up to. We had no special knowledge or analysis.

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Speaker 2: It was just our experience. It takes about three days

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Speaker 2: number three, here is a video that's been released and

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Speaker 2: it shows the bodycam of the ice officer who shot

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Speaker 2: Renee Good to death. And his name is Jonathan Ross,

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Speaker 2: so he did the filming. Now we're gonna play let's

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Speaker 1: That's fine, I'm not married for it. So here things

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Speaker 1: I'm not okay. We don't change our plates every morning.

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Speaker 3: Just so you know it'll be the same plate when

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Speaker 3: you come talk to us later.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: You have citizen.

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Speaker 1: You want to come at us, You want to come

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Speaker 2: I said, go get yourself some lunch, pin boy, No,

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: That's forty six sepcands And it covers the time that

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Good, the ice officer, starts to approach the car,

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Speaker 2: starts to gauge not only with the driver, Renee Good,

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Speaker 2: has a camera. Do we know Renee's wife's name. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it's out there, but we'll just call Renee's wife

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Speaker 2: for now. So and you hear the bump at the end, Now,

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Speaker 2: seems that that's when the officer was impacted, that the

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Speaker 2: car hit him. Uh, didn't run him over, but there

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Speaker 2: was some contact made.

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Speaker 1: So now let's play this again.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna when I say go, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: start my video and we'll stop and start this and

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Speaker 2: I'll narrate what's going on? John?

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Speaker 4: I find her name though, Beca Good.

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Speaker 1: Becca Good, Okay, I hadn't seen that, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we've got Renee is the driver, and then the

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Speaker 2: other half of this married couple is Beca.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Eric go.

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Speaker 2: So he's approaching this red car which is parked in

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Speaker 2: it'd been there for three or four minutes from what

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Speaker 2: I understand now. It comes up to the driver and

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Speaker 2: she says, hey, dude, I'm not mad at you. Show

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Speaker 2: So I stopped stop. He's continuing to walk, passes Renee.

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Speaker 2: be the wife Becca A right, got.

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Speaker 5: Your plates every morning, just so you know it'll be

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Speaker 4: That's fine. You have citizen ploye. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: You want to come at us? I said, go get

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Speaker 1: yourself some lunch, good boy.

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Speaker 2: All right, stop, you want to come at us, get

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Speaker 2: yourself some lunch, big boy. Now he started on the

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Speaker 2: She's holding the phone, and she says, you want to

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Speaker 2: By the way, these are two tough women, all right,

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Speaker 1: He continues to walk in front of the car.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, there's about twelve seconds left, and when you

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Speaker 2: hear the bump, that is when the car must have

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Speaker 2: so we'll continue now, Carl. Oh, this is an important

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Speaker 2: part here, okay, And this important part. So you hear

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Speaker 2: The wife is on the passenger side of the car.

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Speaker 2: She tries to open the front passenger door, but it's locked,

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Speaker 2: So this is interesting because eventually Renee when she takes off,

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Speaker 1: To strike him. All right, so let's let's continue now

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Speaker 2: So it seems like, based on the camera shot going

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Speaker 2: All that matters legally is if he had a reasonable

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Speaker 2: he's got every right to shoot, and he has to

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Speaker 2: same thing with Renee Good that she was a mother,

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Speaker 2: She's had two husbands and a wife and she's only

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that.

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Speaker 2: This is a new breed of mothers that I never

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just old fashion.

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Speaker 4: I think your old fashioned.

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Speaker 2: Mother day mother goes out of her way to commit

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Speaker 2: Uh that's what my mother did.

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Speaker 1: My mother tended to the house. I know, and that

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I have been a stay at home.

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Speaker 5: I tended to the house. And I also worked as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that's my mother did too, and she was

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Speaker 1: But there was a time you just you just were

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Speaker 4: Yes, it just sounds funny and very old fashioned the

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Speaker 1: A little humor there made you tended to the house.

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Speaker 4: I am not tending to the house, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: This, ma'am. So this this woman. We'll get more to

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Speaker 1: She's tending to the news.

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Speaker 2: Belonged to the group called ice Watch, And there's an

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Speaker 2: ICE Watch chapters are all over the country. They train

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Speaker 1: All right, what's next here?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of explaining what this woman, Renee

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Speaker 1: You can't do it.

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Speaker 2: You can't interfere with federal law enforcement or any law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: They also will teach you how to open the door

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Speaker 1: Un arrestee. You're going to pressure law enforcement officers. Hm.

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Speaker 2: people they're being arrested are criminals. So have the legal

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Speaker 2: alien criminals who get sanctuary in Minnesota and the local

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Speaker 2: mothers put a group together to get in the way

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Speaker 2: of the ICE officers arresting the illegal alien criminals.

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Speaker 1: Then they wonder why something bad happened.

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Speaker 2: Homeland security sources told Fox News that Good had followed

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Speaker 2: ICE agents to two separate locations before she was shot.

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Speaker 2: Good was blocking the roadway to disrupt law enforcement at

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Speaker 2: the time. Good was stalking and impeding agents all day.

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Speaker 2: According to Christinome, the DHS secretary, this is crazy behavior.

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Speaker 2: Going back to what I said before, You're a mother.

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Speaker 2: That's the house's a mother. She's a mother. How many

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Speaker 2: mothers did you run into when you were a kid?

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Speaker 2: How many mothers do you know at your kid's courage school?

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Speaker 2: Who would jump at first of all, they belonged to

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Speaker 2: a group. They would take instructions on how to interfere

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Speaker 2: with federal police officials, instructions on how to get somebody

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Speaker 2: de arrested, on how to get somebody out of the grips.

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Speaker 1: Of law enforcement. Who do you know does this?

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Speaker 2: These are crazy people, and each city has several hundred

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Speaker 2: or maybe a thousand of these crazy people who are

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Speaker 2: available all day to do stuff that's absolutely insane, and

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Speaker 2: they're treated like these folk heroes in the media and

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Speaker 2: by members other members of these groups. By the way,

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Speaker 2: these groups are all funded, there's all kinds of left

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Speaker 2: wing money flowing around. All the nonprofits could be your

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Speaker 2: tax money, right the Churla, the Hispanic group that interferes

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Speaker 2: with ICE operations here on behalf of illegal aliens. They

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Speaker 2: got millions of dollars in tax money and Gavin Newsom's budget.

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Speaker 2: So these people are funded by somebody, and it could

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Speaker 2: be Minnesota taxpayers, or it could be left wing donors.

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Speaker 2: Here's what else Minnesota Ice Watch did.

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Speaker 1: They had.

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Speaker 2: Pamphlets that they were distributing building a Midwest revolutionary abolitionist movement,

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Speaker 2: stepping up ways your community can defend itself from the police,

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Speaker 2: how to get ready for a demonstration. They had a

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Speaker 2: field guide of Minneapolis police departments squad vehicle numbers. Six

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Speaker 2: days ago, they posted a video of Malcolm X saying

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Speaker 2: you don't get freedom peacefully. It's not peaceful protesters. This

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Speaker 2: is an underground group that considers itself revolutionary again, a

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Speaker 2: Midwest revolutionary abolitionist movement. This is the group that Renee

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Speaker 2: Good and Becker Good belonged to. In June of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, the Minneapolis Ice Watch chapter organized a protest

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Speaker 2: in support of Isabelle Lopez, a resident who showed up

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Speaker 2: at a Mexican restaurant after activists reported online it was

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Speaker 2: being swarmed by Homeland Security and ICE officials that was

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Speaker 2: the restaurant. Law enforcement officials later confirmed that the federal

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Speaker 2: presence was related to a criminal investigation, not an immigration

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Speaker 2: enforcement operation. Activists encouraged locals to show up at the

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Speaker 2: restaurant to p tech protests.

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Speaker 1: Lopez was accused.

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Speaker 2: Of obstructing, attacking, and kicking federal ICE agents, throwing a

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Speaker 2: softball at a sheriff's deputy. Minneapolis ICE Watch called Lopez

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Speaker 2: a crucial defender of First Amendment rights and the rest

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Speaker 2: of our inalienable human rights. The account also promoted the

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Speaker 2: stop ice plate Tracker, one of many ice tracker services

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Speaker 2: that Catalog's vehicles identified in public spaces used in raids.

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Speaker 2: This is these are organized criminals set to commit selonies

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Speaker 2: to disrupt federal law enforcement operations, not even all immigration operations.

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Speaker 1: We got more coming up.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 6: six forty.

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Speaker 2: We're on every day one till four after four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show on demand. After Debor's news, I'll play

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Speaker 2: the Lisa Bloom clips from CNN last night.

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Speaker 1: She and I were on. She's the civil rights attorney

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Speaker 1: and this.

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Speaker 2: CNN program, the story is Alex Michaelson hosts it and

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Speaker 2: he had us on this third time we've been on,

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Speaker 2: like in the last three months, and it got quite lively.

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Speaker 2: I only have time to play little snippets of it.

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Speaker 2: I do urge you to go to YouTube John Cobelt

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Speaker 2: Show and watch the whole thing, and there'll be snippets

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Speaker 2: on social media. Also, I'm on another podcast, see you could.

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Speaker 2: We're providing entertainment seven days a week. All right, I'm

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Speaker 2: on my wife's podcast, Debora Cobet Live. That's on YouTube

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Speaker 2: as well. We recorded that this morning, so go and

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Speaker 2: watch that. Look, we're giving you things to do. We're

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Speaker 2: giving the entertainment. We want to be embedded in your lives.

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Speaker 2: Now where was I here? I was talking about Renee Good,

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Speaker 2: who was the woman who was shot to death by

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Speaker 2: the ice agent. And according to the latest video today,

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Speaker 2: it was the body cam that the ice agent had

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Speaker 2: and it was clear that the car lurched at him

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Speaker 2: and that's when he shot through the front windshield and

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Speaker 2: she may have hit him because you hear a loud well,

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Speaker 2: you hear a thump. Something hit the ground hard and

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Speaker 2: the camera angle pointed straight up to the sky. We'll

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Speaker 2: find out more. And I've been telling you about this,

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Speaker 2: this ice Watch group. Now, that's what I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: what mothers do now because the Minneapolis based ice Watch chapter,

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Speaker 2: and they exist solely to interfere with ice officers, they

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Speaker 2: organized a protest. Did I read this sor I read

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Speaker 2: that part already?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, they had all met at the school. That's

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Speaker 2: what I wanted to get to and the school into

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Speaker 2: great social justice and to every grade level, telling the

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Speaker 2: stories of the people, not the people in power, and

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Speaker 2: helping students understand history in their role in making the

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Speaker 2: world a better place. They start this when kids are

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Speaker 2: five years old. Five years old. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the woman that you're gonna hear in this next

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Speaker 2: clip is at the school or not, but she's of

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Speaker 2: the same tribe you're gonna hear. This is a Daily

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Speaker 2: Wire reporter named Breca Stroll talking to a white woman.

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Speaker 2: That's how she's identified. And she says she feels bad

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Speaker 2: for showing up to the memorial listen to Why So,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: I'm just walking around. I'm kind of just stayside.

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Speaker 4: Because I got it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know if it's the right

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Speaker 3: thing to do. It feels kind of wrong being here

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Speaker 3: a handsome way. I don't know why why?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know like.

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Speaker 3: Where the stems from, Like, I don't I mean, part

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Speaker 3: of it is being like a white woman that.

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Speaker 4: I'm privileged, and I have a lot of privilege.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like white tears are not always something

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Speaker 3: that's helpful or necessary.

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Speaker 1: White tears black and ron people.

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Speaker 3: Have been experiencing this, yeah, for a long time. This

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Speaker 3: isn't new for them, and so I don't know if

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Speaker 3: that makes any sense in that way.

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Speaker 1: How did you decide that you should be here? Are

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Speaker 1: you still figuring that out?

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Speaker 3: Well, I work like two miles from here, so driving

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Speaker 3: by just I don't you know, it's like, I'm here,

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Speaker 3: I'm two miles I can stop.

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Speaker 2: She's crying because she's a white woman with a lot

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Speaker 2: of privilege, but she feels bad showing up at the

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Speaker 2: memorial because white tears aren't always helpful or necessary.

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Speaker 1: How do you even think of this? Stuff.

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Speaker 2: What a whack job. These are the kind of and

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Speaker 2: and they're white women. They're middle class, upper middle class,

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Speaker 2: middle aged white women in the throes of some kind

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Speaker 2: of midlife crisis, some kind of breakdown where they're bursting

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Speaker 2: into tears. And then the woman shot is white. Well,

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Speaker 2: who got How did people get like this? I know

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Speaker 2: of nobody like this? I don't, but but they're all.

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Speaker 2: They're all part of these protest movements. They're the ones

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Speaker 2: who vote for Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 1: Where did this come from? Be guilty of what? What

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Speaker 1: did you do?

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Speaker 2: You can only be guilty if you do something bad

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Speaker 2: to somebody and then you regret it because you realize

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Speaker 2: how you hurt them. But if you didn't do anything. Oh,

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Speaker 2: In fact, we'll get into this later. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Richie Greenberg on the writer and commentator up in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Over San Francisco setting up a reparations fund. Daniel Lurie,

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Speaker 2: the mayor, who I think has done a lot of

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Speaker 2: good stuff, but he signed this thing. Now there supposedly

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Speaker 2: no taxbody going into it, but it's it's a reparations

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Speaker 2: fund for black people. They're supposed to get up to

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Speaker 2: five million dollars each. Even though there are no slaves

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco, there are no slaves anywhere in California.

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Speaker 2: There are no slave owners in California. Their slavery was

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Speaker 2: never legal here, but California black residents can get up

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Speaker 2: to five million dollar. I don't know who's going to

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Speaker 2: finance this. Well, maybe like this woman here, Maybe you

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Speaker 2: know these middle aged white women who were all busted

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Speaker 2: up and guilty.

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Speaker 1: All right, we come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll play eclips from CNN last night with Alex Michaelson

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Speaker 2: and Lisa Bloom. That is next Deborah Mark live in

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Speaker 2: the Catfight twenty four Hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening

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