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Speaker 1: head writers for the Problem with John Stewart and wrote
Speaker 1: on Girls five, Have a Blessed, This Mess, The Opposition
Speaker 1: with Jordan Klepper, among many others. She wrote, directed, and
Speaker 1: starred in the acclaimed short film Basic hosts the podcast
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Speaker 2: It's Chelsea Davanta.
Speaker 3: Oh hive intro like shouting my name into a cave,
Speaker 3: you know, seeing what echoes.
Speaker 1: Back to a cave full of the entire Internet. So
Speaker 1: that's right, the whole damn Internet is here to welcome
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Speaker 3: I'm feeling very blessed to be back here and continue
Speaker 3: some very important discussions.
Speaker 1: Yes always Yeah, So this is this is our Tuesday
Speaker 1: episode where we kind of take a look at one
Speaker 1: specific topic that we think kind of undergirds the whole zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: There's important to understanding the zeitgeist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the undergirds are what I use instead of spanks,
Speaker 3: So yeah, very.
Speaker 4: They were the yeah, free date spanks, that's right, what's
Speaker 4: my undergirds?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, so we wanted to have
Speaker 1: you on. You had one of our favorite observations in
Speaker 1: the history of the show when you you basically said
Speaker 1: that you knew Trump was going to win the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen election based off of watching The Bachelor, and then
Speaker 1: you explained why, and it made perfect sense and looking
Speaker 1: at pop culture tea leaves and like reading what it acted,
Speaker 1: like what is actually being said about what's happening to
Speaker 1: people on the inside, what has gone on with our
Speaker 1: shared dreams is one of my favorite subjects. You are
Speaker 1: really good at it. We love to do it on
Speaker 1: the Zeitgeist, and so we wanted to have you on
Speaker 1: to do just that, and we'll get into what specifically
Speaker 1: we're talking or actually we can do that now. I
Speaker 1: mean we throughout stan culture being the new religion. We've
Speaker 1: talked about that before, but this one subject keeps popping
Speaker 1: up on social media. Popped up over the weekend after
Speaker 1: we had selected this subject, and that is kind of
Speaker 1: like the desexualization of pop culture. Movie movie sex scenes
Speaker 1: in particular seem to be like a particular thing that
Speaker 1: is that people are objecting to lately and are like.
Speaker 2: Why do these exist?
Speaker 1: When I watch in eighties movie, why does Dan Aykroyd
Speaker 1: get a blood job from a ghost? For instance? And
Speaker 1: that one's actually a really good question. But anyways, there's
Speaker 1: all sorts of things we've talked about before. The idea
Speaker 1: that like de sexualized beautiful bodies is like actually a
Speaker 1: feature of fascist art, and so we've puzzled over whether
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing here. But there's lots of As
Speaker 1: this has become more and more of a mainstream thing
Speaker 1: that we're seeing on social media, there's lots of explanations,
Speaker 1: and we thought you were the best person to have
Speaker 1: to have on the show to talk about this.
Speaker 3: I'm thrilled to be here to talk about like very
Speaker 3: hot sexy bodies not having sex. No, but I was
Speaker 3: so fascinated you guys chose this because it's also something
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about a lot also just as like
Speaker 3: a side topic and where I'm coming from, I was,
Speaker 3: you know, the writers are on strike, right now. But
Speaker 3: before we were on strike, I was pitching a show
Speaker 3: and one of the demographics it was going out to
Speaker 3: it was gonna be like part for Millennials, part for
Speaker 3: gen Z. Sort of this basically like late twenties early
Speaker 3: thirties audience that people seem to think millennials and gen
Speaker 3: Z are just like so so so different. So when
Speaker 3: you're pitching for like that late twenties early thirties, executives
Speaker 3: start referencing studies like the ones we're going to talk about,
Speaker 3: like gen Z actually isn't having in sex anymore, so
Speaker 3: like like can one of these characters just like not
Speaker 3: have a partner of any kind and they just of
Speaker 3: like live in a hole and they stare at a
Speaker 3: wall because that's.
Speaker 5: What we assume gen Z is doing.
Speaker 3: And it was so frustrating because every time I looked around,
Speaker 3: be it from people in my.
Speaker 5: Real life, the youth of the real life.
Speaker 3: TikTok, social media, really anything, I just kept feeling like
Speaker 3: that is not true at all. Even in gen Z
Speaker 3: reality shows, like they are getting engaged, they are getting married,
Speaker 3: they're talking about dating, kind of like the thing way
Speaker 3: You've always had this feeling of like, you know, I
Speaker 3: want to be having good sex, but I'm not.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's something particular to me.
Speaker 3: And my friends, but like I remember in my early twenties,
Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, we would like to be having sex,
Speaker 3: but no one's having sex, like sex in the city.
Speaker 3: Like that just feels like the twenties thing, unless, of course,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure some people were. But anyways, all
Speaker 3: to say that, like, I really think about these studies
Speaker 3: that are being referenced, like gen Z is like this,
Speaker 3: and dah dah da is like this, and all I
Speaker 3: keep thinking about is like who's doing these studies? And
Speaker 3: maybe gen Z is just not participating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, don't you know what?
Speaker 3: We're actually not going to answer the polls about like
Speaker 3: what we've been fucking lately. We're just not because I
Speaker 3: just don't think they're correct. But I would love to
Speaker 3: hear what you guys think.
Speaker 1: It's like the political polls that are like, man, these
Speaker 1: elderly people certainly over index. They seem like they're doing great,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, how did you conduct this? Calling
Speaker 1: landlines exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I guess we didn't predict the election
Speaker 3: correctly off of thee hundred landlines and then the I mean,
Speaker 3: how weird do you have to be to pick up
Speaker 3: the phone these days? Who is answering the phone? We're
Speaker 3: trusting them with our polling data. The people who answer
Speaker 3: an unknown number, I don't trust them.
Speaker 1: We actually asked a bunch of gen Z people's grandparents
Speaker 1: about their sexual behavior, and this is what they told us.
Speaker 5: This is what they told us. Yeah, I just I
Speaker 5: think so anyways, I do.
Speaker 3: But what I do think is a really interesting discussion
Speaker 3: with this fascism thing is. And the thing that I've
Speaker 3: been feeling is that I'll say, as a millennial to
Speaker 3: the gen zs is perhaps lacking nuance discourse nuance, which
Speaker 3: I don't know how. I mean, how close do you
Speaker 3: think lack of nuance and understanding nuance is to turning fascist?
Speaker 6: Right, you know, on the nuance.
Speaker 3: To fascist spectrum. I do think we're somewhat close. But
Speaker 3: I don't think it's fascism. I think it's nuance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably true.
Speaker 1: Mort We do like to ask our guest, what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history?
Speaker 7: I like to pick the I tried to pick the
Speaker 7: most boring one. Uh good, good, I feel like that
Speaker 7: makes a good good podcast. And last night I searched
Speaker 7: how do I cook potatoes? O?
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, my love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: My wife made a really good curry. Although she and
Speaker 7: look this, I love spicy. I actually really do like
Speaker 7: spicy shit, but like by any measure, it was way
Speaker 7: too spicy, just like nose flooding kind of spicy, you know.
Speaker 7: So I had to go. I was like, we can't
Speaker 7: waste all this curry she made so much. So I
Speaker 7: went to the store and got potatoes, corn, and onions,
Speaker 7: and I was like, I'm going to thicken up this curry.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna cut the curry with various vegetab steps.
Speaker 7: You need this curry to be stepped on exactly bingos.
Speaker 7: So then and then I just yeah. So then I
Speaker 7: ended up boiling the potatoes for twenty five minutes and yep,
Speaker 7: and it was great, Honestly. A little bit of salt
Speaker 7: and then a little bit of salt in the onions,
Speaker 7: cook the onions in a separate pan, and you ended
Speaker 7: up really, uh making a solid curry.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this listen, as a potato lover, I
Speaker 8: wouldn't trust anybody who's who don't like potatoes?
Speaker 6: You know everybody can eat them, Vecans can eat them.
Speaker 8: Everybody can eat a potato, right, And there's a in
Speaker 8: the sit choose your own adventure with the potato, like,
Speaker 8: what is what would you see? What would you say
Speaker 8: your top three potato is?
Speaker 7: I mean, look, potatoes are French fries. Potatoes are potato chips.
Speaker 7: Potatoes are you know the like a sad little cousin
Speaker 7: of the baked potato? Yeah, dude, I love a hash brown.
Speaker 7: I'll do a hash bro any day.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 7: I'll do a night hash brown. You know, I don't
Speaker 7: know why we're sing for brunch a night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a night hash brown. Yeah, night hash.
Speaker 6: Brown is great, so good.
Speaker 7: I'll do scrambled eggs with like veggies on top and
Speaker 7: hash browns on top.
Speaker 2: It's this whole.
Speaker 7: It's a hash.
Speaker 2: It's a mixed up hash.
Speaker 8: Are we talking are we talking redded hash or we're
Speaker 8: talking hash round patties?
Speaker 2: Beautiful question, Thank you chichies.
Speaker 7: I would do. I'm gonna go shredded just because they're
Speaker 7: a little good. You know what else I love is
Speaker 7: like the little shoe string potatoes.
Speaker 2: I like a thin a thin.
Speaker 1: Potato so you can get a lot of the crust
Speaker 1: on the potato. I feel like hash brown is like that.
Speaker 1: We have lots of potato options for dinner and lunch
Speaker 1: that are all good. You know, the chip, you you
Speaker 1: ran through a bunch of them, the chip, the French fry,
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes, I even love.
Speaker 6: I love your mash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, breakfast potatoes, though, I feel like hash Browns are
Speaker 1: so far out in front of the home style potatoes.
Speaker 1: I do not like homestyle potatoes either. Keep those in
Speaker 1: your home.
Speaker 6: You see coming home. They're so easy to fuck up.
Speaker 8: That's the thing, yes, Because like the thing about the
Speaker 8: thing about a breakfast potato in any variety, whether it's patty,
Speaker 8: hash Brown patty or shredded hash even breakfast is the seasoning,
Speaker 8: Like that's what's gonna.
Speaker 6: That's what's gonna.
Speaker 8: And like the thing about shredded is is shraded so
Speaker 8: thinly that the seasoning really soaks in really well. And
Speaker 8: when they're diced or home style, they're just cubes of potatoes.
Speaker 6: So the season to be following, you gotta make them soft.
Speaker 8: And if you don't, you make them too hard, then
Speaker 8: that season and not gonna hit the homestyle potato is
Speaker 8: my my least favorite of the breakfast potato.
Speaker 7: And they're they're leaning so hard on rosemary. They're acting
Speaker 7: like Rosemairy is.
Speaker 2: Gonna be just found out about it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not that great. No, it's like, yeah, it tastes. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's like a it's like a subtle it's like slightly
Speaker 7: better tasting, like pencil shavings or something, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 7: It's just weird. It stastes weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Texture is a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 7: The roseberry is like a suggestion of it. It's like
Speaker 7: a whisper of a seasoning.
Speaker 8: It's a garnish almost. Yeah, like oh the little the
Speaker 8: little spike things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it smells great, smells like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the last.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have to eat it. It's like pine needles take
Speaker 1: weird air. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, potatoes, O'Brien, my aka is not a
Speaker 1: good potatoes dish.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've.
Speaker 1: Ever fully come out and said that, but uh, it's
Speaker 1: like green peppers and red peppers and maybe some toomatoes
Speaker 1: thrown in and like with some home fries, and it's
Speaker 1: just not not the thing that I'm looking for from potatoes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 7: It's all about the crisp. It's exactly like you were
Speaker 7: saying about the hash browns. What you need the surface
Speaker 7: area to be much larger than the interior area.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, give me a nice crust.
Speaker 8: Underrated potato, underrated potato, cheesy scalloped underrated.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't get it too often, but every time
Speaker 6: I do, I'm like, shit, hits.
Speaker 7: Well, here's what's interesting is most so like most cheese
Speaker 7: dishes are just cheese delivery systems, right, like your mac cheeses,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. But the cheesy scallops or
Speaker 7: your potatoes, those are both potatoes which are amazing, and cheese,
Speaker 7: which is great. So you can't really go wrong.
Speaker 1: Beautiful real cast role if if you're if, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go cast role. I don't mind the two predominant ingredients
Speaker 1: being cheese and potatoes.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful day.
Speaker 7: This is now a pretty passable food podcast. We just
Speaker 7: changed it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's whatever. It's whatever you want it to be. Alison,
Speaker 1: what is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 9: I'm having a tough time deciding between two things. One
Speaker 9: is the summer. I really don't care for it, like
Speaker 9: start to finish, don't mind.
Speaker 1: Probably our most common answer to overrated.
Speaker 9: And then the second then okay, you the duplas brothers
Speaker 9: any actually elga expand it.
Speaker 2: Any brother related team inter.
Speaker 9: Always overrated, always more than you need. For some reason,
Speaker 9: people around the world love to see brothers doing things together.
Speaker 9: I guess that's cute form or something, but not me.
Speaker 9: I don't care for it.
Speaker 10: There's a whole other team twinsest thing with brothers that happens.
Speaker 2: About that. Wait, wait, I have a brother. What am
Speaker 2: I doing wrong?
Speaker 10: She just said that people love to see brothers.
Speaker 2: Doing things and.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, I was just bringing up that, like
Speaker 10: there's a there's a pornographic contingent to the phenomenon, aw
Speaker 10: speaking of. I was just giving further supporting evidence. I
Speaker 10: thought I was being helpful.
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting theory that the Coen Brothers
Speaker 1: are the result of everybody being like, what if those
Speaker 1: two brothers had sex with each other? Like the deep down,
Speaker 1: that's really what everyone's interested in.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I think I just think it's so fun that these
Speaker 9: brothers like want to work together brothers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know people up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh.
Speaker 11: I also recently realized that Joel Cohen was one of
Speaker 11: the writers of Toy Story, as was Josh Whedon, and
Speaker 11: I just thought, wow, that was before.
Speaker 10: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joseph Whedon. Yes, yes, they're.
Speaker 9: Like writers of toys.
Speaker 6: No, there's four there's wow.
Speaker 2: But for like an animated movie, you know, that's that's
Speaker 2: not that anything.
Speaker 1: Coin went out on his own and directed Garfield.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, okay, but in a group of brothers, like
Speaker 11: when there's four or five brothers, you know, there's never
Speaker 11: more than two talented one. It's just like a gang mentality.
Speaker 11: You just see so many people coming. You're like, whoa,
Speaker 11: look at all this talent. But it's still just the
Speaker 11: one or two guys. It's still only Alec Baldwin and
Speaker 11: maybe a little Daniel Baldwin.
Speaker 9: It's still saddled with a lot of brothers out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Hughes brothers, the who made menace to society
Speaker 1: and then like immediately or and then they made dead
Speaker 1: presidents and then split up. Yeah, there there's a lot
Speaker 1: of There is just something that people are like, God,
Speaker 1: it would be so fun if these brothers like kept
Speaker 1: doing stuff together.
Speaker 9: Yeah, people are said, there's new brothers. I didn't see
Speaker 9: the movie, but that it's not called Talk to the Hand,
Speaker 9: but whatever that movie's called. Those has Australian brothers behind it.
Speaker 2: Yes, and people really like that one.
Speaker 7: I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1: You could tell from the trailer the brothers had made it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they listed their Okay, I thought you meant like you
Speaker 1: saw the first frames and you're like, wait a second
Speaker 1: and get no.
Speaker 2: Probably brothers.
Speaker 5: They're rarely sexy.
Speaker 6: Rarely are the brothers sexy.
Speaker 11: They're more often sexy, all right, but they don't.
Speaker 9: They don't work together that much, those brothers, right, they
Speaker 9: happen to be brothers that both. I don't have a
Speaker 9: problem with that, Like if your brother is also out there,
Speaker 9: I don't. I don't enjoy the brothers that that have this,
Speaker 9: that work together as a team. I think I find
Speaker 9: that to be overrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the question.
Speaker 11: What about if they have different names like Estevez and Sheen?
Speaker 11: Can they work together?
Speaker 9: I don't. I'm sure America wants them to.
Speaker 1: And then yea beach Boys are not a fan. We
Speaker 1: don't like the beach Boys. Fuck the Beach Boys, right,
Speaker 1: we can all agree on that.
Speaker 9: I like Brian Wilson, but I don't know if Brother
Speaker 9: seems to be a bit of a pill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alyssa, what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 10: Well, I'm not going to say New York No, you
Speaker 10: just all clearly are big fans. I think showering. For me, showering,
Speaker 10: it just feels very like punitive. It feels kind of
Speaker 10: like a there's no dignity in it, you know, it
Speaker 10: feels like a punishment.
Speaker 7: Cold, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't enjoy it. It's so boring. I mean
Speaker 10: it's it's mind numbing. That's a huge thing. It really
Speaker 10: like rips you out of your routine.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 10: It's it's hard to have a fluid thought, you know,
Speaker 10: coming from like the desk into the shower and back out.
Speaker 10: I mean it's just like this like assault of the senses.
Speaker 1: And I got a lot of fluid thoughts, like get
Speaker 1: this fluid off of them, right, Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: showering there's too many thoughts. Like I don't know, you're
Speaker 1: like kind of alone with your thoughts, which can be
Speaker 1: a good thing and a bad thing.
Speaker 2: But like I and you're also like, oh right, this
Speaker 2: is my body, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a hard it's a moment, it's a
Speaker 1: time for a hard truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 10: Very corporeal experience. Yeah, it's like you're watching things like
Speaker 10: go down and drain, you know, like things like suddenly
Speaker 10: a metaphor truly.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's also one of the last places you can't
Speaker 11: use your phone, and so that you know, that really
Speaker 11: irks me.
Speaker 2: It's like that.
Speaker 11: I think showering and getting your haircut the only two
Speaker 11: places now you can't use your phone.
Speaker 2: You can't use your phone when you get your haircut.
Speaker 2: Do you use your phone? Do you like scroll through
Speaker 2: your phone when you're getting a haircut?
Speaker 1: I just hire someone to hold it in front of
Speaker 1: my face for me and scroll.
Speaker 2: Let's scroll.
Speaker 11: Yes, it reads my eyes. Yeah, no, it's through, I guess.
Speaker 11: But if it's not rude, I'm doing it. I'm starting in.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: No, I definitely don't unless like somebody like there's something happening,
Speaker 1: like I'm getting messages or something. Otherwise, Yes, I find
Speaker 1: it rude, Like I am such a people pleaser that
Speaker 1: I like getting my hair cut as an intensely uncomfortable
Speaker 1: experience for me because I'm just like, oh.
Speaker 2: God, what do I say, what do I do? What
Speaker 2: do I like?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just like want whoever's cutting my hair
Speaker 1: to like me for some reason. It's a bad scene.
Speaker 1: It's bad scene in there.
Speaker 2: What is uh? What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 12: Overrated?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 13: This was a little tough for me. But I recently
Speaker 13: do some miracle of financing, purchased a cabin okay, and
Speaker 13: I had a home inspection done and I thought, Okay, great,
Speaker 13: that's gonna that's gonna cover me for everything. And it
Speaker 13: turned out there were several things that he missed.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 12: And so I'm gonna say.
Speaker 13: Home inspectors are overrated, or at least the one that
Speaker 13: I was assigned.
Speaker 1: Was assigned by the by somebody who had a well okay,
Speaker 1: Tristan the sale going through.
Speaker 13: Okay, maybe I fell for it. I've never I've never
Speaker 13: gone through the home buying process before.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 13: And this was someone that was that was recommended by
Speaker 13: our by our real estate agent who allegedly is there
Speaker 13: to advocate for us, but at the same time she
Speaker 13: also wants the sale to go through. Yeah, So anyone
Speaker 13: who's out there looking at a home, maybe get your
Speaker 13: own home inspector and uh yeah, just like uh, for instance,
Speaker 13: our the very first day after we closed the refrigerator,
Speaker 13: I noticed what was not working. Uh, And I looked
Speaker 13: in the home inspector report, and the inspector noted there
Speaker 13: is a refrigerator. That was the extent of his inspection.
Speaker 13: Like he hadn't bothered to like open open it and
Speaker 13: touch a can.
Speaker 2: Man, this is great. Look at that.
Speaker 1: You got refrigerator.
Speaker 4: Over there, got outlets to plug stuff in.
Speaker 12: Okay, Okay, he didn't.
Speaker 13: The outlets, so at least we know that's not the
Speaker 13: problem with the refrigerator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 13: And then and then uh uh there's a small deck
Speaker 13: that's off the back. And then when we wanted to
Speaker 13: get it tightened up and fixed up, and so the
Speaker 13: deck guy came and said, oh, they built out on
Speaker 13: top of the old balcony. And then look at that.
Speaker 13: You can see the old balcony joist. And then they
Speaker 13: just wedged the supports in under that, which again would
Speaker 13: have been nice to know, Freman inspector before we purchase
Speaker 13: the home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like this part is made out of crackers.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, here case, but I mean to be fair,
Speaker 13: this Captain was built in like the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 12: There's there's definitely a lot of you know.
Speaker 13: There's only a lot of love in there, but there's
Speaker 13: also was a lot of there's a lot of well
Speaker 13: that'll work for now. It's got a lot of Southern influences,
Speaker 13: let's say, in terms of the repairs were done.
Speaker 1: Of not a lot of like overthinking of anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I love the idea.
Speaker 1: You had to get the deck tightened up, because yes,
Speaker 1: I never like a loosely assembled deck was.
Speaker 13: Look he did, he did point out the railing needs
Speaker 13: to be tightened. That's fair enough. I'm going to tighten
Speaker 13: the railing and again disclosed that's all I asked for.
Speaker 13: And again, this is a total privileged thing. You know,
Speaker 13: not everybody can get a half. I've never been in
Speaker 13: this position. But at the same time, yeah, it would
Speaker 13: be nice to know literally what you're buying. So I
Speaker 13: don't know, I don't know at what point the real
Speaker 13: estate agent and the inspector and everyone else got got
Speaker 13: together to have a good laugh at our expense.
Speaker 12: But I hope they enjoyed their I hope they enjoyed
Speaker 12: their drinks.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think you have zero recourse if
Speaker 4: you do feel that like you were, like, you know,
Speaker 4: at least got a terrible home inspection. I'm sure at
Speaker 4: some point you can like at least complain, so like, yeah, I.
Speaker 12: Just I mean, we can't.
Speaker 13: I can definitely let the let the real estate agent know, Hey,
Speaker 13: I think this guy missed some stuff in case, you know,
Speaker 13: you're going to recommend him to somebody.
Speaker 2: He's like, wait, who's this? I don't know, Sorry, this
Speaker 2: is like a phone.
Speaker 12: I don't know right now, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind, at least a new deck. You can't at
Speaker 1: least put a dead rat on his windshield. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: home inspector.
Speaker 13: Thinking, which the chimney guy. I'll give this guy credit
Speaker 13: the chimney I found a dead bat in the which
Speaker 13: was not great, but better than a live bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, trying to look on the bright side.
Speaker 1: So hospitable to bats was exactly mornings.
Speaker 4: Ceased to exist when entering this fireplace.
Speaker 1: My aunt and uncle just sold their house, and my
Speaker 1: uncle was telling me this thing he learned during the
Speaker 1: process that real estate agents, compared to the people they represent,
Speaker 1: are just people who aren't real estate agents. Their homes
Speaker 1: stay on the market for like six months longer on
Speaker 1: average than everyone else, like because they know that like
Speaker 1: a viral'll come along, they're not in a panic. But
Speaker 1: when they're representing you to jump on this, I don't
Speaker 1: know if anything else is coming through. Ye, so, and
Speaker 1: presumably the home inspectors who they know are just gonna
Speaker 1: give it a nice little once over, and the ones
Speaker 1: who are going to like go in and like really
Speaker 1: inspect the ship. And then you know that probably.
Speaker 13: You got to cuss the cans. I mean, guys, come on, yeah,
Speaker 13: I got to touch the cans.
Speaker 4: That's right then, because part of me singing like if
Speaker 4: a real estate aate like they want to get the
Speaker 4: price down for you, so their inspector should be going
Speaker 4: in and like that this is fucked up.
Speaker 2: This fucked up. Tighten that up. No, I mean they
Speaker 2: don't want to get the price down.
Speaker 12: There the price up.
Speaker 2: But I mean this is I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess this is me being like, when are they
Speaker 4: advocating for the customer?
Speaker 13: I know, shoupendent, they tell you about the property, that's
Speaker 13: why they're advocating. And to be fair, we did we
Speaker 13: did sign something with both with the inspector and the
Speaker 13: real estate agents saying that you know so I'm sure
Speaker 13: you know, as far as recourse or whatever, you know,
Speaker 13: I'm sure it's all it's all legally and all that.
Speaker 12: And then he wants to go to quarter get.
Speaker 4: At Yeah, I might remind you to look at paragraph four. Okay,
Speaker 4: it just says.
Speaker 6: Nana, Nana, Nana exactly.
Speaker 12: Yeah, refer to the.
Speaker 1: Two of you with your legs kicked up smoking cigars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so weird sharing it.
Speaker 13: I'm going to try to fix the refrigerator myself. I
Speaker 13: have qualified myself by watching a YouTube video. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 13: ordering a repair kit and then I will call a professional.
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, okay, well, like's get a new one.
Speaker 1: The things that I can fix in a household include
Speaker 1: toilet and that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 1: I think I think maybe like a drain pipe. I
Speaker 1: think I can usually figure out what's going on with
Speaker 1: one of those, but this onefriator gets pretty complicated.
Speaker 13: This one again, I just watched the I watched two
Speaker 13: different YouTube videos about it. They each had the same
Speaker 13: solution to this to the problem of the refrigerator for
Speaker 13: this model and I, and neither of them involves opening
Speaker 13: up the back. So I think that part like that
Speaker 13: I think the fact that I can just do it
Speaker 13: all from like the internal or you know, from from
Speaker 13: just like moving stuff out of the front. Like I'm
Speaker 13: willing to try that. I'm also willing to abandon the
Speaker 13: project after ten minutes.
Speaker 2: So it's see what I learned.
Speaker 4: Like I've I've looked at all kinds of YouTube videos
Speaker 4: to like do kind of like electrical kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: I learned the most just from having like my best
Speaker 4: friend's dad who's an electrician, who like just came by
Speaker 4: to be like, okay, let me just show you the
Speaker 4: basics so you do not fucking hurt yourself, right, And
Speaker 4: then he's like, and this is a.
Speaker 2: Couple of things you need.
Speaker 4: Now I'm out here. I'll put in a fucking GFCI outlet.
Speaker 4: If we need to fucking switch it up, you need
Speaker 4: dim put in, I'll put in a light fixture.
Speaker 6: I don't I'm one with.
Speaker 2: Damn sir.
Speaker 13: Looking to come up to a cabin and do a
Speaker 13: little electrical work for the you know.
Speaker 1: I might work scares the ship out of me. I
Speaker 1: could just see myself dead next to a chair underneath
Speaker 1: like a light socket.
Speaker 4: Do you know, do the most you know, the most
Speaker 4: responsible thing was just turn the power off, you know,
Speaker 4: like at the breaker, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13: I did, actually did actually fix our stove yesterday, and
Speaker 13: and the only reason I did that is because the
Speaker 13: first instruction was unplugged.
Speaker 12: I was like, Okay, yes, no risk. The worst that's
Speaker 12: going to happen.
Speaker 13: If I'm going to make the stove worse, I'm not
Speaker 13: going to make myself worse.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 12: So far, so far, so good.
Speaker 2: What's uh, what's something you think is underrated? Well?
Speaker 13: On my show, Go Factor sseelf, which I'm sure we'll
Speaker 13: have an opportunity to promote soon enough. We are scheduled
Speaker 13: to have Ed beg Lee Junior on the show. In fact,
Speaker 13: we were scheduled to have him this past Sunday, but
Speaker 13: we can we postponed because of the alleged hurricane. And I,
Speaker 13: in researching our guests, which I do, I believe that
Speaker 13: Ed Begley Junior is criminally underrated as an actor and
Speaker 13: as a person. Yeah, he's been over He's been in
Speaker 13: like three hundred and fifty film and TV projects. He
Speaker 13: was completely right about the climate and about electric cars
Speaker 13: and about you know, all the stuff he does with
Speaker 13: healthy food and all that, and he was the butt
Speaker 13: of jokes for so many years because he was trying
Speaker 13: to save the planet and now we're all just trying
Speaker 13: to catch up to Ed Begley Junior.
Speaker 12: And then on top of that, he was amazing on
Speaker 12: Better Call Saul.
Speaker 13: And everything else he does. He does the comedy, does
Speaker 13: the drama. He's got a new memoir coming out. I
Speaker 13: think Ed Begley Junior is fantastic. And then you look
Speaker 13: at some of these films he made back in the seventies,
Speaker 13: like he worked a couple of times with Paul Schrader
Speaker 13: and just all these incredible directors doing all this, you know,
Speaker 13: very varied work, and Ed Begley Junior. I am on
Speaker 13: board and I'm very excited to host him when we
Speaker 13: reschedule that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 13: Also, Stay is working and constantly like it's he's generous
Speaker 13: with his time he has you know, yeah, he does
Speaker 13: any films, he does feature, you know, he'll he'll do big,
Speaker 13: big projects. He'll do things to help people out. He's
Speaker 13: been on Broadway. I mean, he's he's amazing.
Speaker 4: People were clowning him for having an electric vehicle like
Speaker 4: the game, and they're like and he's like, just wait,
Speaker 4: too dumb fucking from the future basically, yeah, and then
Speaker 4: it's very ed.
Speaker 12: But also shout out to him.
Speaker 4: He also went to we went to the same high school,
Speaker 4: not at the same time obviously, but he's also from
Speaker 4: the valor grew up in the valley. I know he's
Speaker 4: from New York originally, but he grew up in the valley.
Speaker 12: To kidding, I always yeah, he's always at the like
Speaker 12: studio city. Yeah, you definitely can see him in the
Speaker 12: in the valley all over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time.
Speaker 13: And for a while it was sort of a joke
Speaker 13: because you knew when you were driving by Ed Begleye's
Speaker 13: house because it was the one with you know, the
Speaker 13: solar panels in the electric.
Speaker 2: Car and yeah and all that.
Speaker 13: Now all the all the houses in that neighborhood look
Speaker 13: like that exactly.
Speaker 1: There is that Simpsons stroke that to producer Brian shared
Speaker 1: that I remember that.
Speaker 13: Is powered by my own self satisfaction.
Speaker 12: That's another thing.
Speaker 11: He did that voice for that joke about point.
Speaker 2: Hey, he was right.
Speaker 12: All that, and you're right and you have a sense
Speaker 12: of humor about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Well that's very cool. Let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk about the news,
Speaker 1: and we're back, and we are at a point in history,
Speaker 1: just for for people listening to this on Friday, we
Speaker 1: are at a point where Donald Trump's mugshot has not
Speaker 1: been released yet. I don't know if where where you
Speaker 1: people are, it has been released. We we do not
Speaker 1: have any insight into the mugshot, although we have gotten
Speaker 1: to see like his team's mugshots. Have you guys seen
Speaker 1: seen those, Rudy Giuliani looking the most like a crooked
Speaker 1: politician who's been caught doing something, Like.
Speaker 6: I just it's pretty great.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that that is what he went with that,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't know if they were like
Speaker 1: if he didn't know when the picture was being taken,
Speaker 1: but he just looks so much like she's just yeah,
Speaker 1: like a corrupt politician being caught doing something, and like
Speaker 1: he's in the middle of the phrase like I would
Speaker 1: have gotten away with it too if it weren't.
Speaker 6: For meddling kids. Yeah, liberals, like nobody else.
Speaker 1: Out of the group of mugshots, there's there's one guy
Speaker 1: who's like gone real evil, like there is a darkness
Speaker 1: inside his soul. The guy in the blue shirt. He
Speaker 1: looks like the mug shots of famous people, like when
Speaker 1: they're caught like doing a dui, Like you can see
Speaker 1: that their life is at the lowest point that it's
Speaker 1: ever been at like that, which again, it just feels
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I assume everyone would go in smiling, right, Like,
Speaker 1: isn't that what you're supposed to do?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean smiling that guy, the blue blue shirt
Speaker 7: guy looks like if you the people that commit the
Speaker 7: most like atrocious crimes, or like, oh, that guy had
Speaker 7: somebody in his basement for twenty that makes sense, That
Speaker 7: makes sense why he has that look on his face
Speaker 7: like he's devoid of any soul.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a woman smiling like the youngest person in
Speaker 1: these pictures. Uh is a woman who is one of
Speaker 1: Trump's lawyers who would like go on Fox News and
Speaker 1: say thing I forget her name, but she'd go on
Speaker 1: Fox News and say things that would make people be like.
Speaker 2: Wait, you're a lawyer, are you sure? Sorry?
Speaker 1: It says here you're a lawyer, but I research must
Speaker 1: have gotten that wrong because what you're saying does not
Speaker 1: make any sense.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she's smiling.
Speaker 1: I think she got the she understood the assignment, and.
Speaker 6: Her picture looks the best.
Speaker 8: She looks wonderful, hair done, you know, got the little
Speaker 8: side part almost going down.
Speaker 6: I see her.
Speaker 1: I see a little new gingrich guy who's like also
Speaker 1: smiling and just looks like, you know, he's having a good.
Speaker 2: Time, which I think, I think that.
Speaker 1: Should always be your goal. In the mugshot is like,
Speaker 1: don't let the bastards get you down.
Speaker 6: He's also missing the top right of his skull.
Speaker 1: It's like a blown out yeah, so white, his hair
Speaker 1: is so white.
Speaker 2: And then they've like blown out the lighting.
Speaker 7: So much just that he makes cameras not work anymore.
Speaker 7: He's just looks like he's dissolving into light.
Speaker 8: But love that, Like I also love that, like still
Speaker 8: to this it has to be purposeful, like with how
Speaker 8: great cameras are, Like they still use like like a
Speaker 8: six like megapixel camera for all shots.
Speaker 6: Make sure like the I phone can't get better pictures
Speaker 6: than these, but they still use.
Speaker 7: The worst camera they can possibly use.
Speaker 8: From much shots cracks me up so much, it's so funny.
Speaker 7: On Juliani is very like German expressionism, Like he looks
Speaker 7: he looks like no Sparatu, like got forced to go
Speaker 7: outside in the daytime.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it really does.
Speaker 1: Like he looks like they were just like asshole like
Speaker 1: and he he was like busily like devouring a mouse
Speaker 1: in the corner.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, hey, Rudy, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: He's looking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem borrett too, all right, So that is happening.
Speaker 1: This is there's all sorts of things happening that you know.
Speaker 1: The timing isn't great on this one, guys. Uh debate
Speaker 1: was a whole night ago. Have you guys had any
Speaker 1: chance to catch any of the clips anything jump out
Speaker 1: at you.
Speaker 6: I called a couple I call I'll call it to it.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna attempt to say his name because I
Speaker 8: will butcher it. We all know who I'm talking. Yes,
Speaker 8: yeh yeah, I you know. My love that my guy,
Speaker 8: good old VR.
Speaker 6: But I love that he's trying to poison.
Speaker 8: So he even like said the same Obama line like
Speaker 8: I'm just a skinnycare with a funny last name. I
Speaker 8: bet you wonder why I'm up here. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 8: y'all shut your ass up.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's here.
Speaker 6: I think he wants to.
Speaker 8: It just cracks me up when like because there's always
Speaker 8: the fresh faced one of the Republican group, and you
Speaker 8: know it's usually a person of color and and and
Speaker 8: like that bubbly but like, you know, I'm the smart
Speaker 8: young option. You know, basically is the is the is
Speaker 8: the Obama want to be of of the field, and
Speaker 8: he is. I think like in his mind he's like,
Speaker 8: I'm going to be the I'm gonna be that for
Speaker 8: this like field as far as young personal color, so
Speaker 8: white people can be like, see, we do support the
Speaker 8: black and browns.
Speaker 6: We support them, they just need to be a little
Speaker 6: bit more like him. Uh Like that's that's what he is.
Speaker 6: And he just cracks me up. But it's look, it's working.
Speaker 8: He's he's rising as from what I've heard and the
Speaker 8: clips and everybody's talking about them, you know, he's rising
Speaker 8: as what people are saying could be the second option.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Santis is kind of fallen off or he.
Speaker 1: Had that smile, that one moment where he like gave
Speaker 1: you know what was like a pre canned I don't
Speaker 1: know exact actually what he was like. And I'm your man,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'll be president and you can count
Speaker 1: on it, and I will never abandon you. And like
Speaker 1: hit his final line and then the camera lingered on
Speaker 1: him for like I guess two seconds longer than he
Speaker 1: was expecting. Or maybe this was like a smile that
Speaker 1: he had been practicing we talked about on yesterday's trending,
Speaker 1: but it's it was the worst, like the most fail
Speaker 1: catastrophically failed attempt at a smile that I think I've
Speaker 1: ever seen.
Speaker 2: Like watching the Terminator learn to smile or whatever.
Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, he doesantell slut. He I've watched a lot
Speaker 7: of comedy. He had the vibe of this was his
Speaker 7: third open mic, right, yeah, like he was he looked
Speaker 7: so nervous, Like he looked like he had forgotten how
Speaker 7: to swallow and kind of talk, you know, like there
Speaker 7: was there was a look on his face like he
Speaker 7: was like, right.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be here. Uh is that mistake? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There are different things like that. There's that one viral
Speaker 1: post where he's like or that you know, somebody's interviewing him,
Speaker 1: and like his eyes like go through these like different
Speaker 1: phases of like responding and like thinking about what his
Speaker 1: face looks like and thinking about like whether he's smiling,
Speaker 1: and like you can just see like things are coming
Speaker 1: apart inside of him, like he's just like not able
Speaker 1: to like hold the forces within himself together anymore. And
Speaker 1: like that that seemed to happen at a few moments
Speaker 1: in the debate. It's not like he totally just lost
Speaker 1: his mind on up there, but he was pretty bad.
Speaker 8: He's I mean, we're starting to see I mean, here's
Speaker 8: the thing. Here's a lot when people's like, man, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm really worried.
Speaker 6: I'm really worried about the sensus. I was like, why why, Yeah.
Speaker 8: He gives off the energy of a woefully laying person
Speaker 8: who now has power. Yeah, and once he got to
Speaker 8: the national stage, he was gonna get his ass eight
Speaker 8: the fuck up. And but but the difference though, is
Speaker 8: he has shame.
Speaker 6: He's trying to pretend like he don't, but he has.
Speaker 8: Whereas Trump don't get no shame, You're like, gat me up,
Speaker 8: I'll roast you back like, which like unfortunately works as
Speaker 8: a politician.
Speaker 6: Desantas has shame.
Speaker 8: So that's why he's falling apart, because like he's getting
Speaker 8: his ass ate up and everybody's starting to see, oh,
Speaker 8: like you're also terrible, but you're just lame, dude. You're
Speaker 8: a lame white guy. You have nothing else up.
Speaker 1: He's just not Yeah, he's not built for it like
Speaker 1: Trump is for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Trump has a weird like Trump has the perfect personality disorder,
Speaker 1: where like he's uncomfortable unless he's like insulting someone or
Speaker 1: being insulted or like some part of him is like
Speaker 1: you know at stake, like unless like the like soul,
Speaker 1: like the hole in the center of his being that
Speaker 1: like you know, his narcissism is constantly trying to fill
Speaker 1: in for like and unless that is like propelling him
Speaker 1: like a jet engine. Like he's uncomfortable, whereas like Desanta's
Speaker 1: is like furious all the time, but he's like trying
Speaker 1: to hide it. And then he's just like thin skin
Speaker 1: and he can't be thin skin.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and like and and like look there's other people
Speaker 8: like like even Bush like was kind of thing skinned
Speaker 8: and weird and stuff.
Speaker 6: But like at his core, Bush was a frat boy.
Speaker 8: Like yeah, there was like there's has a degree of
Speaker 8: no shame to him, Like there's like.
Speaker 7: A childlike quality to Bush. I think that was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I like talking about shame as like the arburger of
Speaker 7: what's going on with these guys. Yeah, he wasn't smart
Speaker 7: enough to have shame. Yeah right, I think his has
Speaker 7: buried a lifetime of shame. So it's like there's a
Speaker 7: I think there's like an ocean of shame that cannot
Speaker 7: be touched, like if you get anywhere near it. He's
Speaker 7: like you said, he's so he's a snake, right, Like
Speaker 7: his heart is a spider. That's what you have to
Speaker 7: fucking that's what you have to have going on. Uh yeah,
Speaker 7: these dudes, I think to really to have him be
Speaker 7: like fuck yet, like that's what they That feels like
Speaker 7: power to them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what Santas is Catholic, so that that would
Speaker 1: make sense that he's got the shame, the focus on
Speaker 1: the shame.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 7: It's like being like we should I think we should
Speaker 7: just run like Jeff Ross or something like you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like these are like the mid grade
Speaker 7: like insult comics, you know, right, they should just get
Speaker 7: a professional up there, just talk about his bad body
Speaker 7: and watch him cry, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as we talked about yesterday, like that's what Trump
Speaker 1: was doing for for most of the debate, was just
Speaker 1: talking about how Biden has like a bad beach body.
Speaker 1: On his Tucker Arlson interview, we dug into that a
Speaker 1: little bit more. You can go listen to our trending
Speaker 1: episode from yesterday. But I don't know what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do at the beach thing.
Speaker 2: They're not uh, they look like he looks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's insane. It's so funny. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: He loves to make fun of Chris Christy for being overweight.
Speaker 1: He's always on the verge of toppling over.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's one cheeseburger away from being Chris.
Speaker 6: That's rude. I'm sorry, but he will. He's talking about Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's just like, bro, do you see yourself?
Speaker 2: Like, what are you?
Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: I think he's on oz epic though he's he's looking
Speaker 1: a little bit thinner. That's my guess is what's going
Speaker 1: on with both Trump and DeSantis. They both like seem
Speaker 1: like they're slimming down in a way that's probably not
Speaker 1: very healthy.
Speaker 7: And not body ship. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being
Speaker 7: any weight at all. But when you come like everybody
Speaker 7: else that you is fat, You're like, no, you are, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It is like do you see Like, what are you
Speaker 6: talking about? Bro?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but yeah, Vivec was kind of the big focus.
Speaker 2: You know, Pence came for him.
Speaker 1: Like this is such a such a blessing for him
Speaker 1: to get is like the Pence comes for him. He's like,
Speaker 1: this is not the time for on the job training,
Speaker 1: young man. You need to be experienced and know that
Speaker 1: when you're in battle you just close your eyes really
Speaker 1: hard and wish you were somewhere else, you know. But
Speaker 1: he basically called him out and then Vivec proceeded to
Speaker 1: you know, go after that, he told Mike Pence the
Speaker 1: uss R no longer exists, which I thought was kind
Speaker 1: of a good burn told Christy uh said that Christie
Speaker 1: is gunning for an MSNBC contributor position. Uh and that
Speaker 1: Nikki Haley's likely future is on the board of a
Speaker 1: defense contractor instead of the White House. So kind of like, yeah, good, solid,
Speaker 1: solid Burns.
Speaker 6: This is this is fucked up.
Speaker 8: This is so fucked up that like this is entertaining
Speaker 8: to me because these are terrible people who are like,
Speaker 8: you know, running to basically lessen the quality of mine
Speaker 8: and so many others lives. Yeah, Like, but like it's
Speaker 8: also like the nature that that it is also the
Speaker 8: nature of like I'm I love sports, Jack, you love sports.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you love sports or not more,
Speaker 6: but like.
Speaker 8: It it makes me upset that Like when Trump was like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm not going to debate, I was like, yeah, why
Speaker 8: would he? Because like the sport competitive brain in me
Speaker 8: is like, yeah, what, Like.
Speaker 1: The saber metrics on that decision were actually really solid,
Speaker 1: uh just metrics.
Speaker 2: People really love that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, But like from a political standpoint, is shit because
Speaker 8: we as the people, should hear what you have to
Speaker 8: say about where you want to take our country, right. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but the political game, in the election game has become
Speaker 8: such a spectacle and a sport that like.
Speaker 6: It this, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 8: So it's about burns and like all these things that
Speaker 8: have nothing to do with us essentially as far as
Speaker 8: like the actual people that you're trying to help.
Speaker 6: It's it's a game. It's a game. It's popular contest.
Speaker 1: Vivek sells himself as a science guy, even though he
Speaker 1: claimed he's the only person on stage who claimed that
Speaker 1: climate change is a hoax. Also like just based on
Speaker 1: you know, some people are like he was the focus
Speaker 1: because he's like serving as Trump's stand in because he's
Speaker 1: like a far right and experienced outsider outsider, and he
Speaker 1: is running third in Republican polling, so he has like
Speaker 1: a lot of interest I'm assuming from like younger people.
Speaker 1: He seems like he has more of a like younger
Speaker 1: person vibe. Whoever the younger conservatives are, I guess just
Speaker 1: like fascist for young fascists. I love him. But so
Speaker 1: he describes himself as a scientist who has developed a
Speaker 1: number of medicines, when in reality, he's just like a
Speaker 1: hedge fund grifter bro who like got into the biotech
Speaker 1: industry and like it, is mostly known in that industry
Speaker 1: for a colossal failure that you know, because of the
Speaker 1: way he structured the deal that failed for everyone else,
Speaker 1: he got incredibly rich off of it. But what he
Speaker 1: did is he basically looked for patents for drugs that
Speaker 1: had been abandoned for business reasons, then bought them for cheap,
Speaker 1: and then invested heavily in developing the drugs. And his
Speaker 1: big first gamble was on an Alzheimer's drug, and it
Speaker 1: had like failed four times, but he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I really have a feeling about this one, guys. Trust
Speaker 1: me here, I've got my leg businessman's intuition this is
Speaker 1: going to work out. He got the company to like
Speaker 1: a three billion dollar valuation on this model and on
Speaker 1: like all of his promises around this Alzheimer's drug. And
Speaker 1: then this is all before the new clinical trial happened.
Speaker 1: But you know, he had a good feeling about this one.
Speaker 1: And then when the drug finally conducted another clinical trial,
Speaker 1: it failed again like it had multiple times up to
Speaker 1: that point, and the stock price plun and you know,
Speaker 1: but because of the way the system set up, he's
Speaker 1: kind of insulated from the failure and he made like
Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars off of doing what I just described.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Also, like I do, I'm a firm. I mean,
Speaker 8: this happens on every side of each aisle, especially in politics.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 6: The notion that you just have to play the game as.
Speaker 8: Far as like climate change, for instance, in him saying
Speaker 8: it's a hoax, like even though he's you know, not
Speaker 8: a respectable or reputable scientist by you know, the terms
Speaker 8: of a respectable and reputable scientist, but like, I don't
Speaker 8: believe in one second he thinks climate change is a hoax.
Speaker 8: Like if you are around scientists enough and you actually
Speaker 8: believe in science, then you know, the scientific fucking like
Speaker 8: proven fact that climate change is not a hoast, right,
Speaker 8: So like, but him as a Republican and him, you know,
Speaker 8: he has to say these. It's kind of like when
Speaker 8: Obama and when he first you know, came onto the
Speaker 8: scene and he was like, you know, he was saying
Speaker 8: things like you know, I don't believe in gay marriage,
Speaker 8: when like I knew that to not be true because
Speaker 8: Obama went to the same church as my mom, who
Speaker 8: is a lesbian, who got married at that church, and
Speaker 8: he was there, like you know, so like I you know,
Speaker 8: but he has to say that on a national stage, right,
Speaker 8: because that's where we are. And so like it's just
Speaker 8: sad to me that like some of these things have
Speaker 8: to be said and they're of detriment solely because it's
Speaker 8: just what you think most of your party believes. So
Speaker 8: you have to, like you got to play the game.
Speaker 8: And like because I don't, I don't believe it for once.
Speaker 8: I don't believe that for one second. Maybe maybe it's true,
Speaker 8: maybe he doesn't and he's a moron, but like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, if he's being honest, the reality is like
Speaker 7: I don't care the climate change exists right right, rather
Speaker 7: that it truly exists. I'm getting into I'm pocketing enough
Speaker 7: cash off this thing that I'll totally say that to
Speaker 7: like wild applause. Like he literally says, like we celebrated,
Speaker 7: we were taught to to celebrate diversity too much, That's
Speaker 7: what he said. Yeah, dude, they're not gonna run Like okay,
Speaker 7: there's no what do you guys think they're gonna run
Speaker 7: a person of color? Like do you think that would possibly?
Speaker 7: Because yeah, maybe, Like here's who wouldn't vote for him
Speaker 7: is the old conservatives and they're like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: seventy five percent old you know right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think what's gonna happen.
Speaker 8: I think what's gonna happen is all these people are
Speaker 8: running to possibly become Trump's vice presidential pick.
Speaker 1: Right or I think there's also some hope that like
Speaker 1: or his campaign falls apart because he's in jail.
Speaker 6: Oh well yes that too, Yes that too. So it's that.
Speaker 8: But if he doesn't go to jail and he is
Speaker 8: able to continue with this campaign and he gets the nomination,
Speaker 8: I could see him pick of somebody like VR, you know, uh,
Speaker 8: solely because he you know, strategically, he thinks it'll give
Speaker 8: him votes that he would not get, uh right, otherwise.
Speaker 7: He does TV well, right, That's the entire thing now,
Speaker 7: Like that was the brilliant thing about bringing in Trump
Speaker 7: is that he is a television star, so he does
Speaker 7: TV relatively well. I don't even think that well compared
Speaker 7: to like normal TV people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: He's still like weird and sweaty and like, you know,
Speaker 7: kind of like like unpleasant to experience, you know, like
Speaker 7: he's like his charisma kind of bums me out, but
Speaker 7: it's definitely there, you know where it's like. And then
Speaker 7: this kid, he's good at talking. He's good, like you said,
Speaker 7: he had a couple of birds. He seemed like he
Speaker 7: enjoyed being there, like Kent seemed like the whole thing
Speaker 7: was a goddamn headache.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And always, yeah, he always appears like you can just
Speaker 1: both him and Desanta's you get the sense like deep
Speaker 1: down they would not want to be doing this.
Speaker 2: They are tolerating this.
Speaker 7: And it's really condescending sort of like religious, right, like
Speaker 7: really disappointed in everyone. And that's why he like got
Speaker 7: booed when he said that thing to that kid is
Speaker 7: he was acting like he was talking to like a kindergartener.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's talking to vivic.
Speaker 7: Nobody likes that shit.
Speaker 2: It's condescending, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Whereas like there's a there's a humor in what
Speaker 7: Trump does, whether you think he's funny or not, Like
Speaker 7: it's it is kind of funny to be an asshole
Speaker 7: all the time, right, That's sort of that's like a
Speaker 7: known comedic persona like, oh yeah, this guy's a monster
Speaker 7: dickhead no matter what happens. You know, it's like you
Speaker 7: could at least trust that there's a there's a confidence
Speaker 7: to it. I'm safe with this guy because I know
Speaker 7: he's going to be a jerk no matter what. Where
Speaker 7: it's like Pence and Disantos, they don't feel safe because
Speaker 7: you know they DiSanto seems like he might start crying
Speaker 7: or like or hit someone, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's he really seems like he's on the
Speaker 1: verge of like doing something catastrophe, like just really bad
Speaker 1: for himself for somebody like direct around him, like crying,
Speaker 1: or an act of violence, like a profoundly violent thing,
Speaker 1: like seems to be like both with him, reach it
Speaker 1: at any moment.
Speaker 7: And I would. We would they want like somebody who's
Speaker 7: consistent in seeming powerful, even if it's like this desperate
Speaker 7: power that comes from like deep insecurity, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But just to kind of close the loop, because
Speaker 1: so he's not a man of science, Like he doesn't
Speaker 1: spend time with scientists. He spends time with other billionaires.
Speaker 1: He's a fucking hedge fund guy. He's he's just a
Speaker 1: fucking financial grifter. There's a chance that maybe he believes
Speaker 1: the climate change thing or that it's a posture, but
Speaker 1: either way, it doesn't it doesn't really matter. He would
Speaker 1: he would if he were in power, we would be
Speaker 1: completely fucked.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just that that investment that made him super rich.
Speaker 1: The California State Teacher's retirement system lost a shitload of
Speaker 1: money on that one. Lots of other people lost a
Speaker 1: shitload of money. And it also like setback research on
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's drugs, Like it duped people out of money, but
Speaker 1: it also a expert on like the search for research
Speaker 1: into Alzheimer's was like that money would have been better
Speaker 1: applied almost anywhere else in the field. Well that's a
Speaker 1: direct quote, would have been better off applied almost anywhere
Speaker 1: else in the field. So yeah, it's he's it's he
Speaker 1: has some sick burns, but like the shit he's doing,
Speaker 1: he's just like.
Speaker 7: These guys the ability to destroy everyone who they come
Speaker 7: in contact with. I mean, we're looking at all the
Speaker 7: mugshots of the people who supported Trump, Like that's what
Speaker 7: he does foundationally, is whoever he gets involved with fucking
Speaker 7: goes down. When the house burns down, you know, and
Speaker 7: it's exactly like that's good, like that smart capitalism actually
Speaker 7: is that, you know. That's the thing is these guys,
Speaker 7: there's a cunning to them that is really intelligent. It's
Speaker 7: just disastrous for like society.
Speaker 1: For everyone else, and they're running for president, Yeah, to
Speaker 1: head up the whole society thing.
Speaker 7: You guys should get a fucking like you should get
Speaker 7: hazard pay for having to watch all this stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and we'll talk about Tom Cruise. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and Miles, I think you're about to task.
Speaker 2: Oh just yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, you know, the other thing is like
Speaker 4: we're just kind of the evolutione I just think of
Speaker 4: like where I got my sexy imagery as someone born
Speaker 4: in the eighties like through you know, like coming of
Speaker 4: age and then like late nineties aughts and things like that,
Speaker 4: And it feels like at a certain point like it
Speaker 4: would be like, oh, a Van Damn movie is gonna
Speaker 4: have movies in it, Like that was a shorthand in
Speaker 4: my mind, like you were like conditioned to know like
Speaker 4: certain directors, actors, whatever, like there would be that sort
Speaker 4: of thing and then you But but then like a
Speaker 4: lot of the sex or sexual content just really kind
Speaker 4: of shifted to like our popular culture, like it didn't
Speaker 4: have to live in these sort of movies like basic
Speaker 4: Oh what about basic instinct kind of thing. It's like
Speaker 4: it's in my music videos, it's in the advertisements, it's
Speaker 4: on cable TV at night. So it's almost like I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's like also, again, this sort of
Speaker 4: diversification of where that sort of content lived to the
Speaker 4: points that it literally omni.
Speaker 6: Sexual, like everywhere was sex.
Speaker 4: So that also feels like another point where that I
Speaker 4: guess the appeal of it only getting it directly from
Speaker 4: film begins to wane a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also like if you're like, Okay, check out
Speaker 3: this Van Damn sexy scene, or I can go to
Speaker 3: my OnlyFans of a real person who is alive, who's
Speaker 3: doing my niche fetish and will look into the eyes
Speaker 3: of the camera.
Speaker 5: And say my name right, yeah what you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? So when you go back to a VANDAM movie,
Speaker 5: you're like boring, sid move it along.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I was just thinking of remember when Seth
Speaker 3: MacFarlane did that Oscar song called boobs and yeah the
Speaker 3: movies you can see boobs in And that was twenty thirteen, and.
Speaker 5: The response was like yawn like on, like yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: All you're in it for, and it's like shitty to
Speaker 3: treat women that way. And it's like I'm still I'm
Speaker 3: still here for a song, Like I still need to
Speaker 3: get to a place where like Seth MacFarland can sing
Speaker 3: a song about full frontal dick and he's got thirty
Speaker 3: movies to reference, Like I think I've got one, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're there, Harvey Kit, Yeah, there you go. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I do still think it's interesting. So like the
Speaker 1: Wells you were talking about, like they made did an
Speaker 1: analysis in the early two thousand and found that like
Speaker 1: nudity was not something that drove money making, and I
Speaker 1: think rather than just that being always true. I think
Speaker 1: that's probably an indicator of like changing tastes in like
Speaker 1: film goers, and like the whole thesis that I have
Speaker 1: about movies is like, yes, they're like commercial ventures, but
Speaker 1: they people pay money to go see them because they
Speaker 1: are getting to see something that is happening that they
Speaker 1: can't really access inside them up on the screen, right,
Speaker 1: And so like that's why I think it's interesting that
Speaker 1: like early two thousands, like as the country was becoming
Speaker 1: like explicitly fascist in the War on Terror, and you
Speaker 1: know that that was a time when suddenly people were like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to see this shit. And
Speaker 1: I agree, like it definitely has to do with like
Speaker 1: that there became there like suddenly there were better places
Speaker 1: to get that. But I also I don't know, like
Speaker 1: there it does feel like they're one of these articles
Speaker 1: from I think slash Film was saying that it's there's
Speaker 1: been like sort of an internalization of the PG thirteen
Speaker 1: rating when it comes to like our movies, where that's
Speaker 1: just kind of what people expect from movies. And I
Speaker 1: do think that there's like I think that happened because
Speaker 1: corporations came through and like overtook everything, you know, like
Speaker 1: the big example that this blood Knife article uses. The
Speaker 1: blood Knife article that we'll link off to on the
Speaker 1: footnotes is called Everyone's beautiful and Nobody's horny or something
Speaker 1: to that effect, and it's about like superhero movies where
Speaker 1: everybody you know is just trained within just like an
Speaker 1: inch of like perfection, just like and that that goes
Speaker 1: forward the superhero. It also goes for like the FBI
Speaker 1: agent and the background character, and you know, like that
Speaker 1: that's just how everybody is supposed to look perfect. But
Speaker 1: then our favorite filmmakers, this guy whose movies take place
Speaker 1: in a world where like dreams don't have sex in them.
Speaker 1: And I think that there is something to the idea
Speaker 1: that like so fascist art, like when you look at
Speaker 1: like what was popular in Nazi Germany, like the films
Speaker 1: of Lenny Reschenstall, with like these documentaries where they would
Speaker 1: like glorify the human body and particularly the male body
Speaker 1: and like its strength and muscles, but like completely it
Speaker 1: was all about power dynamics, right, it was nothing about sex,
Speaker 1: and in fact, like sex was like to be completely
Speaker 1: removed from the equation. And I feel like there is
Speaker 1: like we obviously those movies also had like Hitler, and
Speaker 1: it was like and all of the sexual energy is
Speaker 1: to be like sublimated to your religious fe to the furor.
Speaker 7: And like that, horny for Hitler only, horny for Hitler only.
Speaker 1: And now it feels like it is done to sublimate
Speaker 1: to like the broader just kind of ideals of capitalism,
Speaker 1: and like the the fact that there's like an internal
Speaker 1: understanding of like, yeah, why would they put like iron
Speaker 1: Man fucking in this movie? Like it wouldn't make as
Speaker 1: much money. And I root for this movie because like
Speaker 1: that's that's my team is Marvel and so like, and
Speaker 1: Marvel is winning against DC, and so I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I don't think it is, like
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a telltale symptom that like America
Speaker 1: is headed towards some sort of fascism with like a
Speaker 1: central fascist leader. But I do think it says something
Speaker 1: interesting about our relationship to this all consuming like capitalistic
Speaker 1: ideal where it's like, yeah, no, we just take the
Speaker 1: sex out of everything, because like that is not actually
Speaker 1: making money for the thing that we want to see
Speaker 1: make money, and we're all on board with that, not
Speaker 1: just David Zaslov, like, we're all on board with that
Speaker 1: because it doesn't like you can just get my sexual
Speaker 1: content elsewhere.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna push back on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, having written in late night comedy for I can't now.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to do the math.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I feel like the like, are
Speaker 3: we turning fascist think pieces like make.
Speaker 5: The rounds every three years?
Speaker 13: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: And it's like, are we are?
Speaker 8: We?
Speaker 3: Are we to the point where like it's not even
Speaker 3: gonna matter because the term fascist now means something different
Speaker 3: to everyone.
Speaker 5: It's lost all meaning, like we're never.
Speaker 3: Gonna know, you know what I mean, It's gonna be
Speaker 3: here and no one will have any understanding on it.
Speaker 3: But taking this back to where we started the Bachelor,
Speaker 3: I will bring us into my main basis for this argument,
Speaker 3: which is that The Bachelor is dying a slow death.
Speaker 3: It's definitely slow, but it's just every season it's dying.
Speaker 5: It's dining Sime.
Speaker 3: And this last year we got reality shows about dating
Speaker 3: like Love is Blind, like The Ultimatum, Queer Love, which
Speaker 3: is Milf Manner one of the.
Speaker 5: Best shows I've ever watched.
Speaker 6: Would you say.
Speaker 4: Miles, I said, Milf Manner, Milf Manner.
Speaker 5: I did watch every episode, Yes I did.
Speaker 3: And that's actually a great one to reference because in
Speaker 3: the ultimatum Queer Love, they've got cameras on and you,
Speaker 3: I mean, you're watching porn for a second, and you're
Speaker 3: watching porn if someone you've intimately gotten to know like
Speaker 3: all their relationship issues. And that show was wildly popular,
Speaker 3: and on TikTok the discourse about queer love stories and
Speaker 3: like there was an entire storyline of like, you fingered
Speaker 3: the woman I'm in love with and where's your fingers go?
Speaker 3: When did they start? And how did it happen? Is
Speaker 3: that considered sex? And then there's a conversation of like, everyone,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Is that penetrative sex or not?
Speaker 3: Do we count that as sex? What is the consent
Speaker 3: needed for finger sex versus other sexy? And you're lie
Speaker 3: And TikTok is like going nuts and loving this conversation,
Speaker 3: and everyone is loving that show. And I think it's
Speaker 3: because it was it was showing sex in the way
Speaker 3: that we understand and want to see it now, which
Speaker 3: is like real authentic. It's not through this like very
Speaker 3: singular patriarchal lens.
Speaker 5: Even on like Love Islands there they live in bikinis.
Speaker 3: They live in bikinis, and they switch partners every other
Speaker 3: day for fifty episodes every season, and it's crushing it
Speaker 3: Like Love is Blind, you know, they talk about are
Speaker 3: they having sex?
Speaker 5: Are they not?
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Bachelor, which is a very sterile show, which
Speaker 3: would fit this sort of like fascist thing where it's
Speaker 3: like overnight sweets, like the door closes and like who
Speaker 3: knows is dying a death in popularity. And so if
Speaker 3: we look to reality TV, I would say we are
Speaker 3: still very much here for sex, but we're no longer
Speaker 3: here for it in the ways that are harmful. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like it's it doesn't feel good. And then if sexing
Speaker 3: is to like make you feel sexy, you don't want
Speaker 3: to feel while you're watching it.
Speaker 2: Yeaheah.
Speaker 1: So maybe my ultimate plea is like the movies do
Speaker 1: something interesting with their sex scenes because that's what people want.
Speaker 1: And it's not that people are necessarily fascisted yo, that
Speaker 1: they just want something interesting and not like the traditional
Speaker 1: eighties movie sexcene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to Chelsea's point, Like again, I was raised on
Speaker 4: the buck Wild movie sex scenes.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then then you know, the internet kind of was
Speaker 4: like I was like, Okay, I think I know what
Speaker 4: I like and to the point to nuance, like now
Speaker 4: I'm like, how come they not kissing in this porno?
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, nah, I'm off this, Like y'all need
Speaker 4: to be making out as shit, like I need to,
Speaker 4: like I want to see y'all be passionate, right or
Speaker 4: y'all like in Bridgerton, I just started watching the second scene.
Speaker 4: There's like one moment where this one character she just
Speaker 4: says she said, mister Bridgerton, and they just have like
Speaker 4: a look at each other, and I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: like and then you say shit, except like there was
Speaker 4: just a very tense moment and the release was just
Speaker 4: saying it and they shared a look, and I was
Speaker 4: even like, damn, that was all right, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: We're like you're just like doing it well, you know,
Speaker 3: like that was hot and I didn't need to just
Speaker 3: see you coldly simulate motions.
Speaker 4: Right right exactly like making the back of the beast
Speaker 4: with two backs as it were. And and I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're I think because we've moved on from just being
Speaker 4: like will they show sex, they.
Speaker 14: Do yes, and then once everyone now this is I
Speaker 14: do want to say this is a direct attack on me,
Speaker 14: because that is a direct quote from something I said
Speaker 14: earlier before we started brawling.
Speaker 4: So I didn't do the fist pump though, like I
Speaker 4: didn't do the double fist pump. Yes, but like yeah
Speaker 4: that now we're so like, you know, it's like when you,
Speaker 4: like you're you get introduced to a new cuisine. In
Speaker 4: the beginning, anything will do, and then as you formulate tastes,
Speaker 4: you're like, no, actually, I'm like, it's not just about
Speaker 4: having you know, steak or whatever or whatever. You know,
Speaker 4: you just you begin to actually understand what it is
Speaker 4: that is appealing to you. And I think, y, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's like it's just sort of simultaneous cultural
Speaker 4: evolution along with the amount of things we've been exposed
Speaker 4: to that kind of puts us in this different place.
Speaker 3: And I think it's the problem with art meeting capitalism
Speaker 3: right now, especially as like we're in the writer strike
Speaker 3: and the whole like you go Woke, you Go broke movement,
Speaker 3: which is that like people come in and try and
Speaker 3: quantify it and do the data and the statistics and
Speaker 3: what's selling when what's not selling and actually this is
Speaker 3: in and that is in blah bah blah.
Speaker 5: But like the thesis is good, we would love a
Speaker 5: good movie.
Speaker 3: We would love a good movie, and the moment we
Speaker 3: get a good movie, they go, oh, do that again,
Speaker 3: do that again? Or like, you know, network television was dead,
Speaker 3: then Abbot Elementary comes up.
Speaker 7: Right, it was good.
Speaker 5: Right, everyone goes.
Speaker 3: Workplace comedies, right, workplace comedies, and you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so that's nuts.
Speaker 5: That was not the only thing that made that show good,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: And I just feel like people want really great art
Speaker 3: and every time it shows up, they're gonna love it,
Speaker 3: and every time it's shitty, they're gonna hate it. And
Speaker 3: then people are gonna drain it down into headline pieces
Speaker 3: of what could sell more or less, and they're going
Speaker 3: to miss the point, which is that if it's good,
Speaker 3: it sells, and if it's bad it does not.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, course, right, all right, that's gonna do it
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