1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off tears down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: us where you were with the terrorists. If you got 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: healthcare all it, then you can keep your plan. If 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: you are satisfied with is not the President of the 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: United States, take it to the bank. Together, we will 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: make America great again. It's what you've been waiting for 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: all day. Buck Sexton with America now joined the conversation 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: called Buck toll free at eight four four nine hundred Buck. 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: That's eight four four nine hundred to eight to five 10 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: the future of talk radio, Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: to the Freedom Hut. Great to have you with me here, 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, excited to get the chance to talk to 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: you about everything going on today and here in this country, 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: around the world. Whatever we need to spend some time on. 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: We absolutely will quick roadmap to where we are going. 16 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: We will discuss a little bit more of the Weinstein 17 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: allegations later, but I promise not to be labor that 18 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: news story or to to overdo that news storys I 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: know we spent a lot of time out of this week. 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: We also will talk about the latest with Puerto Rico 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and the political back and forth over it. Bringing some 22 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: team Buck speaks at the end of the show, talk 23 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: to you a little bit about the market, and maybe 24 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: we'll get into some NFL talk, oh, North Korea, and 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: isis planning to give you my sense of those today 26 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: with a Buck brief or something similar. And there you 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: have it. That's that's a general overview of some of 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: what we're gonna be talking about here. Um. But first, 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: you had a big move today by the White House 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: an executive order. A few of you earlier the week 31 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: when I said, all right, I know executive orders don't 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: really usually get people to jump out of their seats 33 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: with oh my gosh, an executive order, but this one matters. 34 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: This is one that has very important implications for your 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: healthcare or your health insurance, for how much money stays 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: in your pocket you're in and year out, so that 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: you and your family are covered. And here's Donald Trump 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: today as he was signing this executive order. Here's how 39 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: he described some of it. This is why, in a 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: few moments, I will sign an executive order taking the 41 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: first steps to providing millions of Americans with Obamacare relief. 42 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm also directing Secretary Accosted to consider ways to expand 43 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: these associations and these healthcare plans all across state lines. 44 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: This will create tremendous competition and transformative in so many ways, 45 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: change aimed at creating more and lower prices for millions 46 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: of Americans. But the competition will be staggering. Insurance companies 47 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: will be fighting to get every single person signed up, 48 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and you will be hopefully negotiating, negotiating, negotiating, and you'll 49 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: get such slow prices for such great care. This will 50 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: allow thousands of small business employers to have the same 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: purchasing power as large employers to get more affordable and 52 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: generous insurance options for their workers. Sounds great and makes 53 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: me very happy to hear the administration is going in 54 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: this direction. Although the devil, as is always the case, 55 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: the devils and the details. When we're talking about an 56 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: issue of hollow see this complex and this complicated healthcare. 57 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: I think that's at the very top of the heap 58 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: of issues where there's a lot to know and a 59 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: lot to get confused about. But I will we will 60 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: have a healthcare specific expert joining later in the show 61 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: to talk about whether this will work or not, or 62 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: how it will work, and how it may run into 63 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: some concerns. Here's my concern with without diving deep into 64 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the weeds of what this executive order is supposed to do, 65 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: my concern is that allowing competition across state lines without 66 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: doing away with the current Obamacare infrastructure means that you 67 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: are going to have some big shortfalls. Remember, Obamacare is 68 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: based on the redistribution of wealth via the health care system. Essentially, 69 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: they decide who gets subsidies and who doesn't, who gets 70 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: medic You know, they expanded Medicaid out, so more people 71 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: are getting free health insurance and more people are getting 72 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: subsidized health insurance. And it doesn't matter that they have 73 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to do community rating. It doesn't matter how healthy or 74 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: sick you are. Everybody gets the same kind of coverage 75 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: based on the Obamacare regulations, the same degree of coverage 76 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: in the individual markets. So I want to know how 77 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: does that continue on now? Because you have you're you're 78 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to get waivers from the federal requirements that 79 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: still exists for Obamacare. Remember, they haven't done anything to 80 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: Obamacare yet, So right now we're being told that there's 81 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: just a way, and if it was this easy, and 82 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't like to be cynical, out of something like buck, 83 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: Come on, be positive, young man. I come in around 84 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: positive sometimes, but be honest about this for a moment um. 85 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: And here's what I would Here's what I would point out. 86 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: If it were just a function of the President signing 87 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: some thing and creating interstate competition for health insurance dollars, 88 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: what do we go through all this nonsense with the 89 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Congress for what was all that oh repeal replaced it? 90 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: If if it were that simple, what was all that 91 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: hullabaloo about hubbub uh? What was that that supposed to accomplish? 92 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: So that's one concern without even knowing too much of 93 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the details here. But you do have Ran Paul for example, 94 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: you have Ran Paul who is liking this. Today's a 95 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: big day. President Trump is doing what I believe is 96 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: the biggest free market reform of healthcare in a generation. 97 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: This reform, if it works and goes as planned, will 98 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: allow millions of people to get insurance across state lines 99 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: at an inexpensive price. Million people were left signed by 100 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Obamacare do not have insurance today. This specifically targets and 101 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: will help people who don't have insurance, or people or 102 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: for whom insurance is too expensive. Too expensive. I'm very 103 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: glad to be part of this, and I really want 104 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: to commend the President for having the boldness and the 105 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: leadership and the foresight to get this done. So let's 106 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: just let's just play this out for a moment here, 107 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: and and because Rand Paul likes it, that's obviously giving 108 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: the President a lot of a lot of cover on 109 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: this or or a lot of momentum from people on 110 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: the right who I think would usually be skeptical of, Oh, 111 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the President signed something, now everything is better, Now this 112 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: is gonna work. I think for plenty of us that 113 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: would not be our first impulse when the President signs 114 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: an executive order. But here's what I want to know. Okay, 115 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: so let's say this. Let's say this executive order is 116 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: going as planned and the state of Montana, the state 117 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: of Montana is not not the actual states. Some company 118 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: in the state of Montana is offering a health insurance 119 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: policy that is, you know, a hundred a hundred dollars 120 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: a month and just gives you, you know, covers everything 121 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: that you could ever want to be covered. And and 122 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: there's no uh, you know, there's no limitation based on 123 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: previousing conditions or anything. Else, just just theoretically, if they 124 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: were to do that, anyone from across the country with 125 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: a previouising condition could by that insurance policy and then 126 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: start calling upon the policy to pay for their insurance bills. 127 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: That insures gonna go bankrupt really fast. And I mean 128 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm paying. I'm using an extreme example so that we 129 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: can understand, though at least how this is supposed to go. 130 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: But that doesn't work. The economics of it ultimately don't work. 131 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: If it Insure offers a low cost plan in one 132 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: state that's open to people from all across the country 133 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: and it's not allowed to take into account pre existing conditions, 134 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: has a charge, which my understandings under Obamacare, I mean right, 135 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: still no pre existing conditions. Republicans have still said no 136 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: pre existing conditions. Whoever offers that plan is going to 137 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: be out of out of business really quickly. Alternatively, health 138 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: Ensure that comes along and offers a very bare bones plan, 139 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: people might buy that, and let's say it only kicks 140 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: in after thirty thou dollars of and the biggest scam 141 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: in the health insurance business, in my opinion, is the 142 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: reasonable and customary aspect of this. All I'm sure many 143 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: of you have dealt with this before. When you say, okay, 144 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: so I'm in network, I spend h or let's say 145 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: for out of network, that's a better example. I'm out 146 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: of network, but I have coverage, and I spend five 147 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars out of my own pocket with a lot 148 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 1: of money, and I have a five thousand dollar deductible 149 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: out of network before things kick in for my insure. Well, 150 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: they say you spend five thousand, but we only recognize 151 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: too housand of your spending. This is just it's just 152 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: insurance companies moving the goalpost. They'll say, oh, we are 153 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: protecting the insurer pool. But how does that work? Now? 154 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: If you can buy things across if you can buy 155 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: things across state lines, meaning if someone can just offer 156 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: you a policy, other things have to give that it 157 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: doesn't work as is if you have the current Obamacare 158 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: architecture in place, and since the President can't repeal Obamacare 159 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: with the pen, how this is supposed to play out 160 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: is very much I think still a mystery. And even 161 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: when now I've gotten into some of the mechanics, and 162 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: we'll get into this with a healthcare expert a little 163 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: later on, so I can ask the questions, how this 164 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: is what this is supposed to look like? At mean, 165 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: but I'll say this to you too, and this is 166 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: nobody wants say this right now. Trump supporters, I don't 167 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: think particularly want to hear this. I don't want to 168 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: say it. But here's the truth. People want someone else 169 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: to pay for their healthcare. We don't think of it 170 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: that way, but we have all been conditioned now to 171 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: believe that at some level healthcare is a right, not 172 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: a service, not a not a good that you purchase. 173 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Health Care is owed to you. And what determines how 174 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: much is owed to you within that idea of health 175 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: care is just politics. We're gonna pass laws that say 176 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: you have to give somebody x amount of coverage, which 177 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: means x amount of healthcare. We're gonna pass the laws 178 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: that say that doctors charge a certain amount for certain procedures. 179 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: And you know all of this. It is widely accepted, 180 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: and I think it is now an article of faith 181 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: among many Americans, and I think a majority, if we 182 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: were really being honest about it, that somebody else is 183 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: going to pay for their health care at someone. We 184 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: all want the co pay and we want the insurance. 185 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: We just want that either that check to show up, 186 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: or we don't even want to have to deal with it. 187 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: Just the insurer gets the bill and it eventually doesn't work. Eventually, 188 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: you just come into the There's no such thing as 189 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: a free lunch unless people are going to be held 190 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: responsible for their health care dollars and their health care decisions. 191 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: You can't really have a free market unless we're going 192 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: to allow for differences in young versus old, sick versus healthy. 193 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: You don't have insurance. You just have redistributive mechanisms within 194 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: the health care system, so that you're paying for somebody 195 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: else's stuff, or somebody else's paying for your stuff at 196 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: some level in some way. This is what the Democrats 197 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: have done. They have ensnared the country into this, and 198 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: it's been a longstanding process and Obamacare is really just 199 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: the latest chapter in it. This has been going on 200 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. You know. We we even don't 201 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: get me started. Medicare is incredibly popular, Okay, that's great. 202 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Medicare beneficiaries take out twice what they pay in on 203 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: average over the course of their lifetimes, so that means 204 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: that the taxpayer is actually subsidizing Medicare, and in this case, 205 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: the tax payers future generations is why we're twenty trillion 206 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: dollars in debt. Everybody, no free lunch. There's no such 207 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: thing as a free lunch. I think competition is great. 208 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: We had Dr Scott Atlas on to talk about how 209 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: competition will bring prices down at it. But it has 210 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: to actually be competition, and it has to be a 211 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: market where decisions are either rewarded or punished. If healthcare 212 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: is a right, no one is going to be able 213 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: to make much headway on this if healthcare has incentives 214 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: and yes, not punishments, but drawbacks. You know, if you 215 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: decide not to go with coverage and then you're stuck 216 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: with Yeah, no one's allowed to die in the street. 217 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: We've already decided that as a society, and I completely 218 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: agree with that. But if you have the option to 219 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: buy healthcare and or buy health insurance and you don't, 220 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: you're risking your financial future. If that's not somehow part 221 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: of this, then everything we're talking about is just running 222 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: around in a circle. That's my opinion. I know it's 223 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, Rand Paul says it's good. People say it's good, 224 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: and you know, the health care system has all these 225 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: problems in it. We'll see we'll get more into this 226 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: if you if you think I am overstating or understating, 227 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: or or you have some thoughts that especially any of 228 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the the either free marketeers or doctors in the audience. 229 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: We have a lot of surgeons who listened to this 230 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: show I found out which I am particularly pleased about. Surgeons, 231 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: as I have said, are more likely to be conservative 232 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: than any other kind of doctor. That's conservatives like like 233 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: to fix stuff. You know. There are a lot of 234 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: doctors like to tell you to you know, go stretch, 235 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, walk it off, rub some rub some dirt 236 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: on it. I'm just kidding. No doctors do that, But 237 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: surgeons like to fix stuff. So I'm not willing to 238 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: throw a big party yet. For how awesome this executive 239 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: order is that Trump signed, I think it's moving in 240 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: the right direction, but we've got a long, long way 241 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: to go, and part of it is is an honest 242 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: conversation with with the American people about where we're spending 243 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: our healthcare dollars, what the major expenditures are, and are 244 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: we going to live in a country where the government 245 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: promises to take care of you and promises to provide 246 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: your healthcare or you're making your decisions, but then you 247 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: have to live with those decisions, and decisions have consequence. 248 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which side of that equation we fall 249 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: on yet. We'll find out. Eight four eight four four 250 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: to five will be right back, stay with me. Seven 251 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: years ago, congressional Democrats broke the American healthcare system by 252 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: forcing the Obamacare nightmare onto the American people. It has 253 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: been a nightmare. You look at what's happening with the 254 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: premiums and the increases of a hundred and even in 255 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: one case, I'll ask over two hundred and now every 256 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: congressional Democrat has blocked the effort to save Americans from Obamacare, 257 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: along with a very small, frankly handful of Republicans three. 258 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: And we're going to take care of that also because 259 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I believe we have the votes to do block grants 260 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: at a little bit later time. So I'm saying that 261 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: this is mostly, uh, a step in the right direction, 262 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: not a total fix, okay. And he's saying that we 263 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: have to do block grants in the future, and there 264 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: are other things that need to happen as well for 265 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: this to be as effective as we all certainly want 266 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: it to be. And he's pointing out the Democrats have 267 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: just put healthcare on a pathway to being impossibly expensive, 268 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: and therefore we think, well, if it gets too expensive, 269 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to change and and make revisions to 270 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Obamacare that will bring costs down. But actually the progressive 271 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: left in this country just says, oh, well, if it's 272 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: becoming too expensive, we'll just the government will just start 273 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: paying the bill single pair. The government will just be 274 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: the ones writing all the chime for everyone's healthcare. Now, 275 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: even Bernie Sanders, I think a long time ago, is like, 276 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: that's too expensive, so much money. But now this is 277 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: what you'll hear because it is it is politically popular 278 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: to tell people there is a Santa Clause that much 279 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: I do know, Uh, as long as you don't mention 280 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: that Santa Claus is in any way affiliated with Christmas. 281 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Right for Democrats, they want a Santa Claus for healthcare, 282 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: but not a Santa Claus that has any Christian undertones 283 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: because that upsets it. Are a lot of lines, let 284 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: people Wanta salk healthcare, which I understand this. This is 285 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: one of these days where we're discussing an issue that 286 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: every single person listening to the show, and certainly myself 287 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: and Tie and Amy here in the hut with me. Uh. 288 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: You know, we all deal with healthcare stuff. We all 289 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: have family members who uh struggle to handle their healthcare 290 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: costs and have dealt with health issues and illnesses in 291 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: the past that you know, weren't handled the way we 292 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: want them to be or we're way too expensive. Let's 293 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: take Todd in North Carolina on w p T I. 294 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Hey Todd, Hey Buck, how you doing. I'm good, Thank 295 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: you for your call. I just want to talk about 296 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: the group that I haven't heard anything about that I 297 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: think I'm a part of. It's I there's a group 298 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: of us that are just planning on dying and play ease. 299 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: There's no way that we can paid for the insurance. 300 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: There's they're gonna take, you know, the penalty from us 301 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: one way or the other. We're paying all this money, 302 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: We're not getting anything from it. I mean, basically, all 303 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing is trying to keep my wife up right, 304 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: you know. I mean we're going back to the seventies. 305 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: People had shure and insurance back then. The you know, 306 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't a big thing back then. You just you 307 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: just work until you die. It's so security is gonna 308 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: be there for me. You're you're saying, yeah, you're saying 309 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: that we're just that that we're gonna work forever. I've 310 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: been saying this to all my friends and my you know, 311 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: there's a part of me that feels like I'm being 312 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: responsible by trying to put a little money away by 313 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: four oh one K. But then there's a part of 314 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: that's like, given monetary policy and the debt in this 315 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: country and long term obligations and the fiscal irresponsibility of 316 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: the federal government, I'm just gonna work forever and I 317 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: don't know what it will be. That's it, And there's 318 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. And from the way I see it, 319 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna it's gonna from some of the 320 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: older folks I've seen, you know, it's done well for 321 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: them to keep going. I mean, but I'm just, you know, 322 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm just doing what I can. I mean, I think 323 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of us out there and you just 324 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: don't hear from us. I mean, I don't know why 325 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: it's but that's well. I think I think the frustration 326 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about, Todd, is a lot of a lot 327 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: of why people voted for Trump in the first place, 328 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: so look, I think he's got some good stuff going here. 329 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: And we will take more calls on this after the 330 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: break and Todd, thank you for calling, and sorry we 331 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: cut you off there for a second. We'll be back 332 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: with more. Today is only the beginning. In the coming months, 333 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: we plan to take new measures to provide our people 334 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: with even more relief and more freedom. And we are 335 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: going to also pressure Congress very strongly to finish the 336 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: repeal and the replace of Obamacare once and for all. 337 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: We will have great healthcare in our country. The Trump 338 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: is not saying that this is a panacea or a 339 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: cure all. He's She's just saying that this is a 340 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: step in the right direction, and it certainly seems like 341 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: that it could take six months to implement, and a 342 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: lot of it reading into the executive Order over the 343 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: course of today, a lot of it is about studying 344 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: a way to find a means to accomplish It's it's 345 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: kind of a mission statement on healthcare in some ways 346 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: more than it is a specific policy directive. And and 347 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: just so you know what the left's can what the 348 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: left complaints about this are, I turned to no less 349 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: than CNN hashtag. Resistance critics worried that Trump's order this 350 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: quote may free uh may free these association health plans 351 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: from several key Obamacare regulations and from state oversight, allowing 352 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: them to sell plans with lower premiums but skimpier benefit 353 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: It's that could draw younger and healthier customers away from 354 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: Obamacare and send premiums skyrocketing or sicker people left in 355 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: the exchanges. End quote. The first part of that is 356 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: not really what they're worried about. They do this thing 357 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: of and oh, well, do you want the skimpier benefits. 358 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: It's like, well, that all depends. I should be able 359 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: to choose a plan would skimp your benefits if I 360 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: want to, I should be able to get a healthcare 361 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: plan that would cover me over five thousand, ten thousand, whatever. 362 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: It is the idea of being that I'm gonna pay 363 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: my basic health expenses of the course of year, but 364 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: if I get really sick, I'm covered. I don't go bankrupt. 365 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people would want that plan. A lot 366 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: of young people want that plan. Oh but then we 367 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: get into the problem. The central structure of Obamacare as 368 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: it stands is to eliminate differential treatment within healthcare exchanges 369 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: and therefore in the healthcare market between those who are 370 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: sick and have high usage of healthcare and those who 371 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: are less likely to be or do not have chronic illnesses. 372 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: It also doesn't deal with the age differential differences the 373 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: way that if it were purely based on market mechanisms 374 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: it would. So they have to tether the young and 375 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: the healthy to the sicker and older for these exchanges 376 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: to stay afloat, which is just another way of saying 377 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: people that are very unlikely. No, look, no one really knows. Right. 378 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: You could be super healthy today, go to the doctor 379 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: tomorrow and find out you've got a real problem. I mean, 380 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: as many of you know, and this happens. But that's 381 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: I mean. Health insurance, or rather the insurance industry is 382 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: all about actuarial tables and risk and managing and preparing 383 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: for and dealing with different risk factors. If if I 384 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: wanted to sell somebody with a house in the Colorado Rockies, 385 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, at at two thousand feet elevation flood insurance, 386 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be less expensive than if I want 387 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: to sell somebody in the Louisiana Bayou flood insurance, right, 388 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be less expensive than that. For obvious reasons, 389 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: we have been led to believe that health insurance should 390 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: not function that way. Therefore it's not really insurance. And 391 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: this is what I just the concepts here are important 392 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: to keep in mind because it's easy to get lost 393 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: in the details, and it's easy to get pulled into 394 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: the tribalism of you know, Republican stuff, good Democrats stuff, 395 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: bad Democrats stuff. Is definitely bad, but not all the 396 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: Republican stuff is necessarily as good as it should be, 397 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: even if it's better than better than Democrat on healthcare 398 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: is not good enough. Little changes here, they're little cosmetic 399 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: fixes to Obamacare. Isn't gonna cut it now. As I 400 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: was saying, Trump was clear today, this is a first step. 401 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot more that has to happen, and there's 402 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: much more that would go into this. And he still 403 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: believes that doing block grants to the states, which was 404 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: what was so close recently and then it lost by 405 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: one vote, that that would be helpful and that that 406 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: would make things a bit better. But ultimately, if we 407 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: believe that healthcare is a social justice issue and not 408 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: a market issue, we're just going to be arguing over 409 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: how much people have to pay for other people's healthcare. 410 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: That's that's what somebody has to address here. That's a 411 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: Republicans need to speak out on until they're willing to 412 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: say that if we make insurance really affordable and accessible 413 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: to everybody, but if you don't get insurance, you can 414 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: get a huge bill at the end of your treatment 415 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: and you are financially responsible for that, nothing really changes. 416 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: Nothing really changes. It's kind of like moral hazard when 417 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: people talk about Wall Street. If Wall Street knows they're 418 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: gonna get bailed out when they go into a period 419 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: of extreme excess, they know that the tack pair will 420 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: not let them fail. If Wall Street knows that, then 421 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: guess what They're gonna take extreme risks and not care. Right. So, 422 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: if people know that their healthcare choices don't really matter 423 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: because the perception is that somebody else should pay when 424 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: they get really sick, it's it's rational for them to 425 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: make decisions based upon that. It's rational, Well, someone else 426 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: is gonna pay for this. You know, I'm not gonna 427 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: get the bill. Someone else is gonna get the bill. 428 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: Insurer's gonna have to pay for There's no pre existing conditions. Okay, 429 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I didn't insurance that. I bought insurance today and ensure me. 430 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: I just got hit by a bus Ensure me. Yeah. 431 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the way the system is going 432 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: right now. And keep in mind this is still really 433 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: just about the individual market and for those without insurance. 434 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: The vast majority of us in this country have employer 435 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: based insurance, which that needs to be loosened in terms 436 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: of the restrictions, and you know that should be across 437 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: state lines, and that would really have an impact. And 438 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: we're still talking about a subset of the market as 439 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: far as I could tell, I mean, this is only 440 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: supposed to affect the individual markets, those in the exchanges, 441 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: the Obamacare exchanges, and those who are covered by the 442 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Medicaid expansion. So this is what I see going on here. Look, 443 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just trying to manage our expectations here. 444 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: I will note that when people are saying that Trump 445 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: sold out, he's not building a wall Chuck and Nancy 446 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: and everything, I was like, Okay, look it's early. Let's 447 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: see what happens. I have a feeling is gonna sell 448 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: out Chuck and Nancy and I so far right now, 449 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: it looks like I was right, So I'm not ringing 450 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: the alarm bell on this. I think Trump is doing 451 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: the right thing. I think it's a good idea. I 452 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: like that he's refocusing us on healthcare at least taking action. 453 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: He's not just sitting around and hoping for this to 454 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: get better. But it's not perfect, and we need to 455 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: figure out ways to make it so that this is straightforward. 456 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Tax just need to be straightforward, easy and fair. Healthcare 457 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: needs to be straightforward, easy and fair. Tom and Florida, 458 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Oh, I appreciate your program shields high. 459 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: I kind of have a rub. It's a little bit, uh, 460 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I pay for everything that I do, 461 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: and I don't want to pay for other people's stuff, 462 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: And you know, the idea that I want somebody else 463 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: to pay for my insurance kind of rubs me the 464 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: wrong way. But it doesn't rub me the wrong way 465 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: and near as bad as when I see the itemized 466 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: bill from a night in the hospital where I'm getting 467 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: charged twenty seven dollars for an aspirin, or ninety six 468 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: dollars for a pillow case, or two dollars for a 469 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: paper a little paper robe that you know ties in 470 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: the back, Well, then I do want somebody else to 471 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: pay for that. That's ridiculous. You know, if I can't 472 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: pay the basic seven cents for a bare aspirin like 473 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: you should have to, and and two dollars for the 474 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: paper robe like like it actually costs, then then you know, 475 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: we can sit down and talk and get honest. But 476 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: as long as the insurance company is able to build 477 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: me thirty dollars for an aspirin, then we got trouble. 478 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: We got anyway. Well, I mean we've we've discussed before 479 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: on this show Tom about how only only in the 480 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: insurance or only the healthcare market do you get products 481 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: before you know the price of them. There are these 482 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: really uh shocking and pretty terrifying stories that you can 483 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: read about people that were being operated on under their 484 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: plan by a doctor within their plan, by a surgeon 485 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: within their health insurance plan, but then a different anesthesiologist 486 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: shows up and they get a bill for a hundred 487 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars because it's out of network. I mean that 488 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: actually happens to people, and the fact that that's not 489 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: in any other business other than healthcare, that would be 490 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: criminal fraud, right, I mean if I if I sold you, 491 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: if I sold you a brand new pickup truck and 492 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: then I showed up at your home and I was like, oh, 493 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: but the tires that were on that truck, we forgot 494 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: to tell you. Those are like super Trooper spaceship, amazing 495 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Ninja tires and cost five grand. You'd be like, No. 496 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: In healthcare, that kind of happens. And I don't see 497 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: how about our representatives are supposed to be working for us. 498 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I just can't understand how they look at 499 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: me and I'm supposed to put up with that. I 500 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: just I just don't get it. So I appreciate you. Yeah, absolutely, Tom, 501 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate hearing from you. Yeah, 502 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: sheels hot. You know, it's we see all this stuff happening, 503 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: and I don't like to show up and do the look. 504 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: For a lot of people for a long time in 505 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: the media, you know that just being a part of 506 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: the outrage machinery is effective, you know, because people go, 507 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: I could sit here and I could pound the table 508 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: and yell. I actually have a great yelling voice. I 509 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: can sound I do get super angry sometimes I like 510 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: try not to do it within earshot or anybody that 511 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I work with or or no. But you know, I 512 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: have a great angry man voice. I can yell about 513 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: things and talk about how Republicans sell us out and 514 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then just like talking about the Constitution 515 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: and wander around and want to, you know, play my fight. 516 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Isn't that the thing that's the like the flute that goes? 517 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: Is it a fife? I think? Right? What's the little 518 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: flute that people used to play in the colonial era? 519 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Am I create? Anyway? What are you know what I'm 520 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: saying with my try corner hat? And you know, I 521 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: love the Constitution and you know the Republicans are are 522 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: selling us out. They're selling us out, and yeah, I 523 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: mean they're politicians, they're they're slimy, they do bad things. 524 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: But I'd also like to talk about information here. And 525 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: I view this as a constance. This show is my 526 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: excuse to be constantly educating and updating myself on everything 527 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: that I think matters, and then sharing and then having 528 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: you share back to me what you think is important 529 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: and what you want to know more about. And it 530 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: is a synthesis in real time on Radio Mark in 531 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: North Carolina on w P t I hey, Mark, Hey Buck, 532 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: great topic, these are things we should be talking about. Uh. 533 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: The last caller kind of took my my plug too. 534 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Is how you cannot get a price list of services 535 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: from healthcare providers. It's possible, and you can't talk free 536 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: market and not allow people to get prices on services. 537 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: I just don't see how that's even possible. Market's even 538 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: worse than that. I've had the experience of saying, Okay, 539 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I want this procedure. I'm on the phone with my 540 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: insure what will this cost so I can know, and 541 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: they'll say, we won't tell you. They won't tell you 542 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: what reasonable and customary is because then they're afraid that 543 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: the providers will game the system and max out their 544 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: prices to get maximum amount of dollars, so they leave 545 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: it variable purposefully, which means that you, as the consumer, 546 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: don't know what you're paying. We had to exact. Say 547 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: I had a high deductible hs A, my daughter had 548 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: to get twos in her ears. So I got three 549 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: providers and college to get three quotes, and none of 550 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: them were quoted. They said, we won't know that we 551 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: see your insurance. Yeah, how was that fair? Mark? I 552 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: mean if you think about this. This is you know, 553 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: it's like I said, this is do you like this car? 554 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Take it home. We'll send you the bill. What's the price? 555 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, you know, and sometimes you take 556 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the car home and the bill is crazy. So that's 557 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: the problem, right for talking about this? Right absolutely, man, Mark, 558 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: thank you, Shieldside down, North Carolina. Alright, one more before 559 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: we go into a break here. James also on w 560 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: p T I what's going on? James? Hey, Uh, I 561 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: appreciate everything you've done, you know, just light in all 562 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: the darkness and you know everything you've done. You I 563 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: try to keep it. I try to keep it positive 564 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: and informative in here. There are there are other folks 565 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: who count the table and scream. I can do that too. 566 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: I think it's simple. So the reason I called, you know, 567 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: uh go on Facebook, YouTube, stuff like out of social 568 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: media and I see all these people that you know, 569 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: they always about the same nonsense about Trump. It just 570 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: boggles my mind. The latest thing with I forget his 571 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: name off top and head now it's uh the rapper 572 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: him and them that this track he just laid down. 573 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: Apparently that just all the same nonsense they've been speaking 574 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 1: the entire time about racist and all the sources of stuff. 575 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, there are plenty of things that I could 576 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: say about Donald Trump, plenty of criticisms that people could 577 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: level that I said, there's there's some merit to that 578 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not not a racist. He was, you know, 579 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: he I knew the family a little bit grown up 580 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: here in New York City. You know, he's just not 581 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: a racist. I mean, you know, I think that this 582 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: is a place where the left loves to focus all 583 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: their attention. You know, should he be tweeting, should he 584 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: be telling NBCD he's gonna pull their broadcast license. You know, 585 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: there's some stuff that I'm not I'm not loving. I'm 586 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: not gonna lie, But he's not a racist. It's always 587 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: the same thing, though they just if it ain't one 588 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: thing is another. But it's always usually lies and and 589 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: the seed and and but they all they all spout 590 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: the same thing that somebody else they heard, you know, 591 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: from somewhere else. Yeah, I know, look for a lot 592 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: of people, James, you just gotta understand that politics is 593 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: a is more of a statement about someone's lifestyle, choice 594 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: and view of themselves, and it is about actual politics. 595 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: Right about laws and about governance and about the relationship 596 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: between citizen and the state. For a lot of folks, 597 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: they they are I'm I'm a progressive leftist who loves 598 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, etcetera, etcetera, because it means I'm a good, smart, kind, 599 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: considerate person. Has nothing to do anything else. Shield Todd James, 600 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: We've gotta roll in to break here, man, But thank 601 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: you so much for calling in. By the way, a 602 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: fife is indeed, as I see here on Google, a 603 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: small kind of shrill flute, especially played in military bands 604 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: alongside the drum, even one I don't know, I know, 605 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: Ti Amy, that's right, High five for me. All right, 606 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We're gonna talk about that press 607 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: conference that General Kelly, the Chief of Staff, gave Hiller today. 608 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: He hit on a lot of really important things, and 609 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: it will also, I think, open up an opportunity for 610 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: us to just talk a bit about North Korea and 611 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: maybe even the Islamic state um and then perhaps a 612 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: little bit of a wind steam discussion, but not much. 613 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm limiting the one team talk today. In response to 614 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: many of your comments and emails about how okay, you know, 615 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: we we sort of we've heard the stories as of now, 616 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: and there's not a whole lot more to add to 617 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: it until something changes um in terms of the macro, 618 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: at least in terms of what's going on at the 619 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: thirty foot level. But Lisa, listening to the I heartap 620 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: in California, wants to chat with us. All. Hey, Lisa, Hi, 621 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Buck go team buck Buck. Lisa, you've you've got your 622 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: own like you've got your own you know, chant or 623 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: a call sign or whatever. My god, I am live 624 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: streaming you on Twitter every day all day long. Thank you, 625 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Okay, so you signed off with the fife 626 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: and drum, but I don't know if you know this. 627 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: What the fife and drum were used for was call 628 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: out military commands because we're so noisy on the battlefield 629 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: that military commanders couldn't get their commands to their men. Yeah. 630 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: I think whenever people hear particular kind of drum in 631 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: the fife, that's what they think of as colonial era. 632 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, they can particularly see George Washington emerging from 633 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: the mist and yeah, I get it. Yep. Well that's 634 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: what it's all about, getting your men into position. Yeah, okay, alright, Lisa, 635 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: thank you to anything else. I just love it talking. 636 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We all send you a big 637 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: freedom hunt hug, Lisa, thank you very much for calling in. 638 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the the fife, I am uh. I mean 639 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: we we fund to find some colonial era music maybe 640 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: to play on the show. And also I think we're 641 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: what do you think it's probably time maybe we'll update 642 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: some of our bumpings and bumpouts for the show in 643 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: terms of the music that we use. Uh. I think 644 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: it's it's been a while now, it'll be gosh. We 645 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: have been on the air on this show for a 646 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: year in a few months, which seems like a time. 647 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: Is it's flying by eight four or four nine? Buck 648 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: if you would like to chat about anything at all, 649 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: you know that has how to reach us. Oh. One 650 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say, and this is good to 651 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: say now because it's um quick. So there's gonna be 652 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: a new what is she the new Homeland Say something 653 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: or Homeland Security? What is she? Director? Okay? Yeah, and 654 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: her name is Kirsten Nielsen. And I just want to 655 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: say I think as a society it's time that we 656 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: come together and figure out one way that we all 657 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: spell kirston because there's already Kirsten. There, there's Kristen and Kirsten, 658 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: which is already really tough. But once you add in 659 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: all the weird spellings of Kirston, and now you've got 660 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: a j I mean, this is just crazy people, you 661 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: know this, Let's be civilized. One way to spell Kirston 662 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: will be right back, all right. Seems great to have 663 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: you back with me in the Freedom Hunt. I really enjoyed. 664 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Rarely would I say this. I really enjoyed a press 665 00:37:52,000 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: conference today Um that was held by General Kelly Um. 666 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: He is a very compelling and his own way, a 667 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: charismatic fellow. He just just commands respect. General incredibly well 668 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: respected within military circles and and outside of military circles, 669 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: just across the board. And he took the podium today, 670 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Sarah Huckaby Sanders stepped aside, and he just he was 671 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: the most effective spokesperson for this administration on these issues. 672 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: Maybe you could argue yet, and now that's not to 673 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: take anyway from I think Sarah Huckaby Sanders is actually 674 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: doing a very good job in her role, way better 675 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: than Seawan Spicer was just speaking the truth as I 676 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: as I see it. I think Heather now Ard is 677 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: phenomenal at the State Department in her role there too, 678 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: But this he is less visible unless unless you're really 679 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: into like international relations and State Department policy. But she's 680 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: doing a very very good job. Do you have two 681 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: of the most effective people in this entire administration, at 682 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: least on the communication side, are women, I should point out, 683 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: um and but today we had uh sets Nard and Sanders. 684 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: But today we saw General Kelly or Chief of Staff, 685 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: Chief of Staff Kelly discussing a whole bunch of issues 686 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: and he he was able to take the media to 687 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: task on some things. First of all, this this notion, 688 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: and it really came up this week because of the 689 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: story that Trump was like you I want ten thousand 690 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: more nuclear missiles or whatever. It was, right, like Trump 691 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: is just just the biggest bozo, biggest imbecile ever And 692 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: it just is not credible. It's not credible. Uh. This 693 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: is like someone saying that, you know, Trump was worried 694 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: that when he was on a yacht he was going 695 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: to fall off the edge of the earth or something. 696 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, there are limits here, folks, right, 697 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: we all know this. There are limits to what we 698 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: could even begin to believe, and Trump did not say 699 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: that he wanted ten times as many nuclear your missiles. Okay, 700 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: there's just no I don't care if you haven't read 701 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: a newspaper in the last twenty years, you know enough 702 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: to know that we don't need ten x the nukes 703 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: that we have. Just there's just no way. But the 704 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: press was, oh, they were all double down on this, 705 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's true, and they love to talk about 706 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: the the moron as an aside here, everyone knew that 707 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: uh Rama Manuel had an incredible streak of vulgar speech 708 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: and was nasty and abusive to stat But you didn't 709 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 1: really hear the stories, did you. People in the White 710 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: House somehow find the ability. Now, the members of the press, 711 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: they find the means of reporting on somebody saying something 712 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: about the president behind closed doors that was derogatory, But 713 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: you didn't hear that about raw Emmanuel who if you 714 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: look back at some of the quotes that are attributed 715 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: to that guy, I'm sure there was plenty of stuff 716 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: that was okay. But now back back to Kelly and 717 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: what he's been trying, what he's been having to deal 718 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: with a White House that has a lot of leaks. 719 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the leakers are gone now 720 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: and a White House that is besieged by the press, 721 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: and this, like I said, is it particularly interesting week 722 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: for that because of the story that Trump wanted ten 723 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: times as many nuclear miss I mean, come on, right, 724 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: So Kelly vented some frustration about this to that I 725 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: think it was worth everybody hearing, and I think it's 726 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: worth you hearing now. No, I'm not frustrated. This is 727 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: really really hard work. I don't mean any criticism to 728 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: Mr Trump's predecessors, but there was an awful lot of 729 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: things that were in my view, kicked down the road, 730 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: um that can have come home the roost pretty much 731 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,479 Speaker 1: right now that have to be dealt with. This is hard, 732 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: hard work, John, And uh my only frustration would all 733 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: do respect everyone in the room, is when I come 734 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: to work in the morning and read about things I 735 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: legislative said, or things that Mr Trump allegedly said, or 736 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: people who were going to be fired or whatever I think, 737 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: and it's just not true. So he's saying that those reports, 738 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: this is general Kelly saying those reports are not true. 739 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: And what I think is often overlooked in all these 740 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: discussions is that it is harmful it is time wasting. 741 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: It is a waste of resources for the pinnacle of 742 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: the federal government to be ensnared in having to play 743 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: defense about gossip mongering. Basically about about gossip calumnists pretending 744 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: or people that are supposed to be White House correspondents 745 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: who are just acting like a bunch of gossipy high 746 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: school kids. That that's not helpful and that's not shining 747 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: a light up on democracy. It's not speaking truth to power. 748 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: It's just acting like punks. And he doesn't like it. 749 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: And I think it was really important for the American 750 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: people to hear that today and in case they weren't 751 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: clear on it. This is in front of the West 752 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: wing reporters, right, this is in front of all the 753 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: White House correspondents. Here is what Kelly said about their misrepresentations. Yeah, 754 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a reasonable guy. But when I read 755 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: in the morning, I read the will tell you whatever, 756 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: but and watch TV in the morning. It's just it 757 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: is astounding to me how much is misrep misreported. I will, 758 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: I will give you the benefit of the doubt that 759 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: you are operating off of contacts, leaks, whatever you call them. Um, 760 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: but I would just offer to you the advice, I'd say, uh, 761 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe develop some better sources, um, some person 762 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: that works way down inside an office, or or well, 763 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: just develop some better sources. He's really saying that the 764 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: media is guilty of fake news. And this is he 765 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: won't use that term because that term is uh inflammatory 766 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: to the press, right, they get very upset, very angry 767 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: about it. But he's saying that they are guilty of 768 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: fake news. That's what this is. That you're running with 769 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: crap sources and telling crap stories. Please stop doing that. 770 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: It is not helpful. Um. So there was that, but 771 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: then look let's get into Oh and there's one more 772 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 1: thing about the criticisms of Kelly himself. They're saying, oh, well, 773 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: he was brought in to right the ship, and he's 774 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: supposed to make everything run more smoothly and all this. 775 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: Kelly's like, look, I'm not here to be President Trump's wrangler. 776 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not here to be the one who's trying to 777 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, grab onto the leash or something. Yeah. It's funny. 778 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: I I read in the paper of View both you 779 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: all know you write it that you know I was 780 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: I've been a failure at controlling the president or a 781 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: failure at controlling his tweeting and all that. Again, I 782 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: was not sent in, or was not brought to this 783 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: job to control anything but the flow of information to 784 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: our president so that he can make the best decisions. 785 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: He takes information in from every avenue he can, he 786 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: can receive it. I restrict no one, by the way, 787 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: from going in to see him. But when we go 788 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: in to see him now, rather than the onesies and twosies, 789 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: we go in and help him collectively understand what what 790 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: he needs to understand to make these vital decisions. So 791 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: this is a guy who is tremendously uh well respected, 792 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 1: and has impeccable integrity and served his country for decades, 793 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: and he's telling the press knock it off, all right, 794 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: cut it out. So for any of us who are wondering, 795 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, is this all just a show? When Trump 796 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: says that there's fake news, the meeting is being responsible, 797 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: which I know none of you think that because he 798 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: listened to the show, and so of course we all 799 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: know that. But here's somebody with gravitas. Look, he's he's 800 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: not out there saying everything Trump does is great. You know, 801 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: He's not some super trumper who pretends that the President 802 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: is some kind of DEMI god right, He's just saying, look, 803 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: stop with the smear campaign, the lies, the gossiping and 804 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: all that. It doesn't help. It's not and you do 805 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: a disservice not just to your profession as journalist, but 806 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: to the American people. I mean, I thought it was 807 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: really powerful today. And you looked around that room and 808 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: for the first time, they weren't dealing with a Sean Spicer, 809 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: you know, they weren't dealing even with Sarah Sanders, no 810 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: disrespect to her, but they're dealing with a formidable veteran 811 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: who knows DC inside it out, isn't impressed by anybody, 812 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: isn't scared by anybody, and scared of anybody. And uh, 813 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: it was. It was very effective. The administration should have 814 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: General Kelly speak more often, not just to the press, 815 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: but to the American people in this way. And before 816 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: I switched gears and get into what he said about 817 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: North Korea and all, used that as an opportunity to 818 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: talk to you about what I see happening there. I 819 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: don't know how many of you have have heard this before, um, 820 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: but this there's a speech that General Kelly at the time, 821 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: he was a Marine, Lieutenant General John Kelly giving a 822 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: speech back in his son. General Kelly's son died in 823 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: combat in Iraq. So he's not just somebody who served 824 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: his country himself. He knows that loss. He is a 825 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: gold Star parent. He lost a son in Iraq and combat. 826 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: But he was giving a eulogy a few days after 827 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: his own son had died in combat. He was giving 828 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 1: a eulogy to two marines. And this is an excerpt 829 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: from that speech. This is back in. But I think one, 830 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: it's just something that we should all know and we 831 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: think about. We. I know, we just had four US 832 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: Special Forces lost in Niger. We have Marines and airmen 833 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: and and UH and soldiers and naval personnel and combat 834 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: and combat theaters all over the world. But also this 835 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: is the individual that has been brought into the Trump 836 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: administration because of his gravitas and the respect that he has. 837 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: And I wanted to read this speech to you for 838 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: a moment and then we'll go into a break. So 839 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: this was back in eulogizing two Marines have been lost 840 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: in combat. This is from General Kelly speech two years 841 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: ago when I was the commander of all US and 842 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: Iraqi forces. In fact, the twenty second of April two 843 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two marine infantry battalions one nine the 844 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: Walking Dead and the two eight we're switching out in Ramadi. 845 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: One battalion in the closing days of their deployment, going 846 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 1: home very soon, the others starting its seven month combat tour. 847 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: Two Marines, Corporal Jonathan Yale and Lance Corporal Jew Harder, 848 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: and twenty year olds respectively, one from each battalion. We're 849 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: assuming the watch together at the entrance gate of an 850 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: outpost that contained a makeshift barracks housing fifty Marines. The 851 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: same broken down, ramshackle building was also home to a 852 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: hundred rocky police. Also my men and our allies and 853 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: the fight against the terrorists in Ramadi, a city, until 854 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: recently the most dangerous city on earth and owned by 855 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: al Qaeda. Yale was a dirt poor, mixed race kid 856 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: from Virginia with a wife and daughter and a mother 857 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: and sister who lived with him and he supported as well. 858 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: He did this on a yearly salary of less than 859 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: twenty three thousand dollars. Harder, on the other hand, was 860 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: a middle class white kid from Long Island. They were 861 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: from two completely different worlds. Had they not joined the Marines, 862 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: they would never have met each other or understood that 863 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: multiple America's exist simultaneously, depending on one's race, education level, 864 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: economic status, and where you might have been born. But 865 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: they were Marines, combat marines forged in the same crucible 866 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: of marine training, and because of this bond, they were 867 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: brothers as close or closer than if they were born 868 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: of the same woman. The mission orders they received from 869 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: the sergeant squad leader, I am sure went something like this, Okay, 870 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: you two clowns stand this post and let no unauthorized 871 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: personnel or vehicles passed you clear. I'm also sure that 872 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: Yale and harder Than rolled their eyes and set in 873 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: unison something like yes, Sergeant, with just enough attitude that 874 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 1: made the point without saying the words no kid in, sweetheart, 875 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: we know what we're doing. They then relieved two other 876 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: Marines on watch and took up their post at the 877 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: entry control point of Joint Security Station Nasser in the 878 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: Sofia section of Ramadi al Anbar, Iraq. A few minutes later, 879 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: a large blue truck turned down the alleyway, perhaps sixty 880 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: to seventy yards in length, and sped its way through 881 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: the serpentine of concrete jersey walls. The truck stopped just 882 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: short of where the two were posted and detonated, killing 883 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: them both. Twenty four brick masonry houses were damaged or destroyed. 884 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: A mosque a hundred yards away collapsed. The truck's engine 885 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: came to rest two hundred yards away, knocking most of 886 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: a house down before it stopped. Our explosive experts reckoned. 887 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: The blast was made of two thousand pounds of explosives. 888 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: Two died, and because these two young infantrymen didn't have 889 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: it in their d NA to run from danger, they 890 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: saved a hundred and fifty of their Iraqi and American 891 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,439 Speaker 1: brothers in arms. When I read the situation report about 892 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: the incident a few hours after it happened, I called 893 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: the regimental commander for details about something that struck me 894 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: as different. Marines dying or being seriously wounded is commonplace 895 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: in combat. We expect marines, regardless of rank or mos 896 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,399 Speaker 1: to stand their ground and do their duty and even 897 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 1: die in the process if that is what the mission takes. 898 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: But this just seemed different. The regimental commander had returned 899 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: from the site and he agreed, but reported that there 900 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: were no American witnesses to the event, just Iraqi police. 901 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: I figured, if there was any chance of finding out 902 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: what actually happened, and then to decorate the two marines 903 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: to acknowledge their bravery, I'd have to do it as 904 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: a combat award that requires two eye witnesses. And we 905 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: figured the bureaucrats back in Washington would never buy I 906 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: rocky statements. If it had any chance at all, it 907 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: had to come under the signature of a general officer. 908 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: I traveled to Ramadi the next day and spoke individually 909 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: to half a dozen Iraqi police, all of whom told 910 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: the same story. The blue truck turned down into the 911 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: alley and immediately sped up as it made its way 912 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: through the serpentine. They all said, we knew immediately what 913 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: was going on as those two marines began firing. The 914 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: Iraqi police then related that some of them also fired, 915 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: and then to a man ran for safety just prior 916 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: to the explosion. All survived, many were injured, some seriously. 917 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: One of the iraqis elaborated and with tears welling up, 918 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: said they'd run like any normal man would to save 919 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: his life. What he didn't know until then, he said, 920 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: and what he learned the very that very instant, was 921 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: that Marines are not normal. Joking past the emotion, he said, Sir, 922 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: in the name of God, no sane man would have 923 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: stood there and did what they did. No sane man. 924 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: They saved us all. But we didn't know at the time, 925 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: and only learned a couple of days later. And I 926 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: wrote a summary and submitted both. The yell and harder 927 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: for posthumous Navy crosses was that one of our security cameras, 928 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: damaged initially in the blast, recorded some of the suicide attack. 929 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: It happened exactly as the Iraqis had described it. It 930 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: took exactly six seconds for when the truck entered the 931 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: alley until it detonated. You can watch the last six 932 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,439 Speaker 1: seconds of their young lives. Putting myself in their heads, 933 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 1: I suppose it took about a second for the two 934 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: Marines to separately come to the same conclusion by what 935 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: was going on once the truck driver came into their 936 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: view at the far end of the alley, exactly no 937 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: time to talk it over, called the sergeant to ask 938 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: what they should do, Only time enough to take half 939 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: an instant and think about what the sergeant told them 940 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: to do a few minutes before let no unauthorized vehicle 941 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: or personnel pass. Two Marines had about five seconds left 942 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: to live. It took maybe another two seconds for them 943 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: to present their weapons, take aim, and open up. This time, 944 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: the truck was halfway through the barriers and gaining speed 945 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: the whole time. Here the recording shows a number of 946 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: a rocky police, some of who have been fired, their 947 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: aks now scattering like the normal and rational men they were, 948 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 1: some running right past the Marines. They had three seconds 949 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: to live recording or for about two seconds more. The 950 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: recording shows the Marines weapons firing NonStop, the truck's windshield 951 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 1: exploding into shards of glasses. Their rounds took it apart 952 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: and torn to the body of the s ob who's 953 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to get past them to kill their brothers. Recording 954 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: shows the truck carrine to a stop immediately in front 955 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: of the two Marines. The truck explodes, the camera goes blank. 956 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: The two men go to their God. Six seconds not 957 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: enough time to think about their families, their country, their flag, 958 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: or about their lives or their deaths, but more than 959 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: enough time for the two very brave young men to 960 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: do their duty into eternity. That is the kind of 961 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: people who are on watch all over the world tonight end. 962 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: Quote that was General Kelly. Everybody talking about two of 963 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: our marines. We'll be right back buck back with you 964 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: here in the Freedom Hunt team. With a quick correction. 965 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 1: General Kelly's son died in combat in uh sang In 966 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 1: in Helman Province in Afghanistan. I think I said Iraq before, 967 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: But those marines he was talking about that was in 968 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: Ramadi in Anbar Province in in Iraq. But yeah, Kelly's 969 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: son was a marine and he was killed in action 970 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:40,919 Speaker 1: in Hellman Province, Afghanistan. But Kelly is a is a well, 971 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: a patriot and a huge asset to this government. And 972 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: I think we saw a lot of that on display today. Um. Also, 973 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: I assume he's a He must be a Boston guy, right. 974 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,439 Speaker 1: He sounds like a Boston guy. Yeah, I mean that's 975 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: that's a very unique accent that he has. So I'm 976 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: assuming I love my Boston peeps. I'm assuming he's a 977 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: He's it came out a few times. I think he 978 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: said a few like you know, ka definitely something like yeah, 979 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: there's some of that. Um, I don't know there are 980 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: a couple of words. I said, Oh, he must be 981 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: for Boston. But here's what he had to say about 982 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: North Korea, which I think we'll talk a little. North 983 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: Korean isis coming on the flip side of this break 984 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: here I play the clip. Please, all right, let's talk 985 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: more about the details of the healthcare plan here, uh, 986 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: and or the Executive Order on healthcare. We've got oh 987 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: vic Roy on the line. He is a president of 988 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity. He's a forms 989 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: Forbes opinion editor, author of Transcending Obamacare and How Medicaid 990 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: Fails the Poor over Great to have you back, hey Buck, 991 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. What's up? All right? Not much, man, 992 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: I mean so a lot of fanfair today about the 993 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 1: executive order? What will this do? What might it do? 994 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: What doesn't it do? Fuck? If Obamacare is a rhinoceros, 995 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: the Trump Executive Order are like a bunch of rain drops. 996 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: Basically has almost no effect. It's modest relief. It's better 997 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: than nothing. But oh, VICKI is dropping bombs everybody. I'm sorry, 998 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: over go ahead, it's on them. It's it's very marginal. 999 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: And look, I don't I don't fault Trump for that. 1000 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: I think Trump is doing the president is doing everything 1001 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: he can within the law. But the problem is the 1002 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: law gives the president actually fairly limited powers to change 1003 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: Obamacare because the Affordable Characters we all remember, two thousand 1004 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: pages it was incredibly prescriptive about how insurance companies could do, 1005 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: what they do and what kinds of plans people could buy. 1006 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: And there's not a lot you can change about that 1007 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: with executive orders because you have to have an Act 1008 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: of Congress to change that. And as we all know 1009 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: all too well, Buck, we don't have an Act of 1010 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: Congress to change Obamacare right now. So wait, what is 1011 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: this supposed to do? I'm I'm I'm wondering because everyone's 1012 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: very excited today. I saw there are a lot lots 1013 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: of coverage, lots of talking. People are saying this is 1014 00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: going to allow for actual interstate commerce as like it 1015 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: says in the Constitution. Uh, and that means you're gonna 1016 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: be able to buy a healthcare plan across state lines. 1017 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: Can this do that? Um? Not? Really? It can. Again, 1018 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: it can make modest, it can make it can reduce 1019 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: some of the barriers to interstate competition for insurance, but 1020 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: ultimately under this, uh, this executive order, it will still 1021 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: be up to state because again it's acts of Congress. Here, 1022 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: there's this law called the mccaren Ferguson Act that would 1023 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: have to be repealed by Congress in order they have 1024 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: truly interstate competition for insurance. But this law, this bill 1025 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: is executive order, excuse me, does allow for a few 1026 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: less heard, a fewer hurdles. But if you want to 1027 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,479 Speaker 1: have multi state insurance plans, so you know, modest, there's 1028 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: another thing in the build in the executive order. I 1029 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: keep saying bill, the executive order, that that would make 1030 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: it easier for small businesses to band together to become 1031 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: effectively one big, large pool to buy health insurance in bulk. Um. Yes, 1032 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: because that could help a little bit on the margins. 1033 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: Small businesses can already do that through organizations called professional 1034 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: employee Organizations or p e O. There's already the ability 1035 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: for small businesses to pool their resource. In fact, my 1036 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: think tank, the Foundation for Research on Equal Oprase Foundations 1037 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: released research on Equal Opportunity. That's what we do. We 1038 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: pool with a bunch of other small companies to to 1039 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: buy our health interns for our employees. So that's not 1040 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: a big deal. And then the last thing was, Okay, 1041 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: there's this there's this piece of the bill that's the 1042 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: executive order that says, okay, um, let's allow for these 1043 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: short term plans that last less than a year, that 1044 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: people that can buy with get kind of get outside 1045 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: of the Obamacare regulation. Okay, that's good, and that's you know, 1046 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: that's an improvement from what was what was true beforehand. 1047 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: But all Trump did there was he restored the regulations 1048 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: that were in place prior to because the Obama administration 1049 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: basically everyone was bailing out of the Obamacare exchanges. Nobody 1050 00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: was signing up. People were buying these alternative plan that 1051 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: weren't regulated by Obamacare. The Obama administration tried to shut 1052 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: down that escape valve to prevent people from using it. 1053 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: So the Trump administration saying, okay, we're gonna restore that. Great. 1054 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad they did it. Look the world is a 1055 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: better place with this executive order. But is it like 1056 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: this birth shattering thing that's gonna gut Obamacare. No, okay, 1057 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: that's what I had a feeling that this was pretty 1058 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: much the case. Oh, Vic, But I think that there's 1059 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: such a hunger right now for positive action from the 1060 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: administration and from the government in general on healthcare, that 1061 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: maybe this was getting a little bit more And look, 1062 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: we can say this is good for optics, gets enthusiasm going, 1063 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: it's moving in the right direction, and that's all. That's 1064 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: also the good. But you know, Trump also said, we 1065 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: played the audio earlier today, that he still thinks that 1066 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: we'll get to block grants for the states, that that 1067 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: plan from a few weeks ago that failed to get 1068 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: through the Senate, they may revisit that. Do you do 1069 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you think it is just a case of making the 1070 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: case the American people so that there's more pressure on 1071 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: some senators to actually get this thing through or uh, 1072 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen in here, is this just 1073 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: gonna be healthcare deja vu all over again. Well, it's 1074 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: very close right there, very close in terms of having 1075 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the fifty votes they need to pass that that bill 1076 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,919 Speaker 1: or something some version of it. I think the two 1077 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: things to watch buck are Number One, what happens with 1078 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: John McCain. As you know, his health is his sepiorate. 1079 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: He's got a pretty serious form of brain cancer. Uh, 1080 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, we all wish him the best of health, 1081 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: but but who knows exactly how long he will he 1082 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: will remain in the Senate just because of health consideration. 1083 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Team hopefully he lasts a long a long time, but 1084 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: we just don't know. And the other factors. Robert Menendez 1085 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: who has this trial for corruption and perjury and bribery, 1086 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: which you probably covered on your show, he's convicted. If 1087 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: he's convicted and forced to resign from the Senate. While 1088 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Chris Christie is still governor of New Jersey, well, guess 1089 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: who gets to a point his replacement, at least in 1090 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the short term, Chris Christie. So that's two votes right 1091 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 1: there that could shift based on pretty near term of that. 1092 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: So if that happens in the vote count could change potentially. 1093 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of O vic Roy is the president of the 1094 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity over just so everyone knows, 1095 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 1: why is it that right now, if I'm in the 1096 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: individual market living here in New York State, and I said, 1097 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I love this plan that's offered out 1098 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: in out in Texas. I want to buy that Texas plan? 1099 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: What stops me from doing that? Basically, the way it 1100 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: works right now is you have to buy an insurance 1101 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: plan that's legal in your state, in the state that 1102 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: you live in. So every state has an insurance Commissioner 1103 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: UH and and basically a government bureaucracy that that says, 1104 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: this plan is allowed to be sold in this state, 1105 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 1: and if you can't, you know, if you don't have 1106 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: that license in that state, you can't sell it, which 1107 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: isn't true of a lot most goods and service and 1108 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: most goods and services like you, you know, you to 1109 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: make an iPhone California, you can settle over the country 1110 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: because that's considered a barrier to interstate commerce. But in 1111 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 1: the case of insurance, there's an old law that was 1112 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: upheld by the Supreme Court that basically allows health insurance 1113 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: UH to be sold only at the state level, and 1114 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: you really can't do multi state insurance. The one exception 1115 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: of that is states themselves can enter into agreements with 1116 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: other states and what are called interstate compact. So if 1117 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma want to create a single market for 1118 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: health insurance between those two states, they have the option 1119 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: to do that. In fact, I believe Georgia and Alabama 1120 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: did that a few years back. They said, Okay, we're 1121 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna allow for insurers to sell plans across that state line, 1122 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: but the insurance didn't do it because at the end 1123 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: of the day, it's a it sounds like an easy 1124 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: fix and it's really not. Fuck. The real thing we 1125 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: need to do is not buy health insurance across state lines. 1126 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: We need to buy healthcare across state line. You need 1127 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, have a doctor be 1128 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: able to read your x rays from a different state 1129 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and give you, you you know, a diagnosis space on that. 1130 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: We needed you to be able to go to a doctor, 1131 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: another aid or a NI sertain another state where the 1132 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 1: prices are cheaper than where they are where you are, 1133 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: and you can't do that because of all sorts of 1134 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: regulations and problems. So the problem of interstates. Wait, if 1135 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 1: I live in New York and I want to go 1136 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: get surgery in in Illinois, that's an issue. It can 1137 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: be an issue absolutely because the way that the system 1138 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: works now, there's if you want to get surgery in 1139 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: Illinois and that surgeon isn't licensed to practice in New York, 1140 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 1: it's actually very hard for your New York primary care 1141 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: physician to refer you to doctor who's not licensed in 1142 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: New York. Right because medical licensure laws are also done 1143 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: at the state level. Um. And so that's an example 1144 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: of where it's again, it's not just about health insurance, 1145 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: it's about healthcare. You really want to change the way 1146 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: healthcare works in America, you've gotta buy healthcare across state lines, 1147 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: not just health insurance. Health insurance is to motive payment. 1148 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: You know what matters is the actual health care and 1149 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,919 Speaker 1: competition there. Oh, Vic, are you speaking to some people 1150 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: that fixing this whole thing? We're looking at you, buddy. 1151 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Um? Listen? I mean, yeah, conversations. Conversations 1152 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: are ongoing, and obviously I think right now everyone's taking 1153 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: a break trying to work on tax reform. That's the 1154 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: top priority. But yes, behind the scenes, people are trying 1155 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: to figure out what can be you know what, what 1156 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: where we can move forward with Congress. And yeah, I 1157 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: don't think anybody has given up. At least I don't 1158 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: talk to anybody who's given up. Maybe it's a self 1159 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 1: selected group that talks to me, but UM, I certainly 1160 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: haven't given up. It's too important of an issue, as 1161 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, and um, we gotta make progress. But you 1162 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: know what, I think one thing that a lot of 1163 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: us in the conservative movement need to understand is that 1164 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: whatever were you manage, whatever manages to get fifty votes 1165 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: and Senative we get that far. It's not going to 1166 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: be a perfect bill. Healthcare bills never are. We have 1167 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: to be willing to accept first down and not just 1168 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: simply pine for the eight yard Hail Mary. We got 1169 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,919 Speaker 1: to move the ball down the field. And I feel 1170 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of times there are people like Rand Paul, 1171 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: for example, who says, no, I'm not gonna accept this 1172 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 1: bill because it preserves too much of Obamare I'm not 1173 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna accept that bill because it preserves too much of Obamacare. Look, 1174 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: we got to do the best we can, whatever it is. 1175 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 1: If it repeals parts of Obamacare, at least that's the start. 1176 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: And I feel too too many of us have just 1177 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: said if it's not perfect, it's worthless. And I think 1178 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: that's that's preventing us from from at least in part, 1179 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 1: that's preventing us from gett where we need to go. 1180 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: All right, everybody go check out Ovic's work at the 1181 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, Mr Roy, great to 1182 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: have you, Hey, Buck, thanks a lot, Deam. We're going 1183 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: to run and break the second. First, let's take a 1184 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: call though from Eric and Rochester has been on a 1185 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: hold for quite a while. What's up, Eric, Yeah, you 1186 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: were asking for suggestions from from your listeners, and I 1187 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: thought I came up with one of the right away. 1188 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 1: It's October, so maybe a deep dive into the October 1189 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Revolution would be appropriate. Oh that's a great idea. Okay, 1190 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I like it the month. Maybe you might have to 1191 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: scramble a little bit, but it's I mean, there's so 1192 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: many there's there's a lot more to it than a 1193 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of folks get taught about in school. Oh, people 1194 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: don't learn any They don't learn anything about the bolsh 1195 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Vix and the Menshevis and Lannin and Trotsky and the 1196 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: back and the in fighting and the backstabbing and you know, 1197 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: and people people think that like this, you know the 1198 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Soviet Revolution, Uh, there was the October October Revolution and 1199 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: would would lead the Soviet Union was like this populist uprising. Nope, 1200 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 1: they were actually a tiny minority that never had popular 1201 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 1: support and they just you know, machine gunned everybody in 1202 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: their way basically. So yeah, that would be interesting. Eric 1203 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: realized that the original revolution was that was actually a 1204 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 1: democratic revolution, one that over actually over through the Zar initially, No, no, 1205 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: no one gets this. No one gets this history in 1206 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: school because all the professors are are, you know, secret socialists? 1207 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: All right, Mann, thank you, Eric. That's a great idea. 1208 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get to it. Although 1209 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I have to. I'm noticing that there's the opinions on history. 1210 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Deep dives tend to run in two directions, love or 1211 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 1: not so love. So I'm hoping to find a way 1212 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: to maybe add them into what we do here in 1213 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: the Hut, but make it an external so it might 1214 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: be a podcast that separate from the show, or just 1215 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 1: the occasional segment here there. I'm not sure it's I 1216 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: don't want anyone to be like, I'm not listening because 1217 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: we're about to go into history, but I know a 1218 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: lot of you do listen overwhelmingly because you like the history. 1219 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: So we'll see. I gotta I'm trying to just trying 1220 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 1: to keep the whole team happy, everybody. You know. I'm like, 1221 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, the guy who's driving the car on 1222 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 1: the road trip, and there's all these different options of 1223 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: where we're gonna stop for fast food? You know, is 1224 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: there one place you know, can we all agree that 1225 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: flame broyled that burger king is probably the best option. No, 1226 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 1: some people are gonna want you know, Popeye, They're gonna 1227 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: want Taco bell or It's it's tough here in the hub. 1228 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: We got a lot of food options. We got a 1229 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of things that we can eat together. 1230 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: So I'm always trying to be selective with it. All right, 1231 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,799 Speaker 1: with that, coming back here, talk a little national security 1232 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 1: and then um what am I? Oh? Yeah, Puerto Rico 1233 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: update the next hour and some other stuff. Stay with me. 1234 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: So we had General Kelly, Um do we have it? Yeah, 1235 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: we have General Kelly talking about North Korea. And I'm 1236 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 1: meant to I forgot that we had ovic schedule that 1237 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: part of the show. Sometimes that happens that throws me 1238 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: off here because we're doing a live show, and I uh, 1239 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 1: the team dutifully informs me of things like our guest schedule, 1240 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,760 Speaker 1: and then I just I'm all, you know, I'm all 1241 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: fired up with my black Rifle coffee, and uh, you know, 1242 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 1: I just forget that. I've got a guess I gotta 1243 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: get to you. But I want to return to this 1244 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 1: issue of North Korea and what General Kelly had to 1245 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 1: say about it. Play the full clip. If the American 1246 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:38,600 Speaker 1: people should be concerned about a state that has developed 1247 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: a pretty good I CBM capability and is developing a 1248 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: pretty good nuclear reentry vehicle, UM, I would believe, I 1249 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,759 Speaker 1: think I speak through the administration that that stage simply 1250 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: cannot have the ability to reach the homeland. And for 1251 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 1: that matter, while the homeland right now, there's a great 1252 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: concern about a lot of Americans that live in gua. Um. Um. 1253 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: Right now, we think the threat is manageable. But over time, 1254 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: um uh, if it grows beyond where it is today, uh, well, 1255 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: let's let's hope to diplomacy work. That's the general kellyway 1256 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: of saying that we will reach a point at some 1257 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:25,440 Speaker 1: stage in the future, based on North Korean belligerents, intentions, 1258 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: and capabilities, we will reach a point at which there 1259 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: will have to be action taken. That is not diplomatic. 1260 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: That's a very subdued way of saying that the current 1261 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: course of US and really international community North Korea relations, 1262 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 1: if it does not change in some major capacity, involves 1263 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: a military action, not tomorrow, not next month. But that 1264 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: is where we are heading. And I think another point 1265 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: that he made and we we played this audio for 1266 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 1: you earlier in the show, and I'll just mention it 1267 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: now instead of making you listen to it the second time. 1268 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: But that a lot of problems were delayed. That's one 1269 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 1: of the defining characteristics of the Obama administration's approach to 1270 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 1: foreign policy was that with Iran, get a deal that 1271 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 1: just it doesn't do anything really other than just delay 1272 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 1: the problems. With North Korea, it was just keep things 1273 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: as they are and delay the problems. With Syria, it 1274 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 1: was weight and wait and hope that something gives and 1275 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 1: changes on its own. And then eventually, because things got 1276 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: so bad and about the last two years of the 1277 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 1: Obama administration, they started doing what they should have been 1278 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: doing from the beginning, right, But delay was central to 1279 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: their approach um and the administration. That's additions to the 1280 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 1: foreign policy canon of strategic patients, which became really a joke, 1281 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: leading from behind, which was definitely a joke. And then 1282 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: also don't do stupid stuff that you know, that's the 1283 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Obama doctrine, which is not really any doctrine at all, 1284 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,560 Speaker 1: and we saw that in place, and with North Korea. 1285 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: We didn't hear much about it under the years of 1286 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: Obama because they figured that it wasn't imminent and dealing 1287 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: with it would have political consequences, so better to leave 1288 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 1: it for the next guy. Well, Trump is not planning 1289 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: on leaving it for the next guy. But this is 1290 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 1: really about as high stakes as it gets in the 1291 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 1: realm of national security and diplomacy, talking about a nuclear 1292 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 1: state that is uh still very misunderstood or it is 1293 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: poorly understood, and we're trying to gauge its intentions and 1294 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: and what it really wants, and nobody really knows. Nobody 1295 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 1: really knows, and in fact, a lot of the most 1296 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: egregious strategic errors that have been made in well period 1297 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna you can really say in history, but 1298 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to matters of war and peace, I 1299 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 1: had to do with not understanding the real intentions and 1300 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,719 Speaker 1: goals of the other side. And I don't think anybody 1301 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 1: really has a handle on Kim Jong on and what 1302 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: his next moves are gonna be. I don't think anybody does. 1303 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 1: But Trump is making it quite clear, and along with 1304 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: General Kelly and General Maddis that the status quo, the 1305 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 1: current trajectory is unacceptable. So we'll continue to see people 1306 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 1: have been wondering if there's a missile launch that could 1307 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: come any day now, another test perhaps and even more 1308 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: aggressive test that is specifically intended by North Korea as 1309 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: a slap in the face of the United States. That 1310 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 1: may happen. One more thing here there is a switching 1311 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: to Cuba for a moment in the Roman the National 1312 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Security there's audio which I won't play for you because 1313 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of just you can imagine what an audio 1314 01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 1: weapon sounds like. It's a horrible noise. It's very annoying. Uh, 1315 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: it's like sort as the high pitched noise um. But 1316 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 1: boxes reporting on this others as well, that they think 1317 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: that these diplomats who have had all these terrible symptoms 1318 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: and there's they may have been exposed this audio weapon 1319 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 1: in Cuba. They have a recording now they think maybe 1320 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: the audio weapon, which this is a mystery that we 1321 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 1: have to get to the bottom two and we continue 1322 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: to follow it to stay with me. So so he's 1323 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: a duty of the United States to put their books 1324 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: on the ground here in Puerto Rico. It's not that 1325 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: we are begging, is that it's what we deserve. We 1326 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: have been in everywhere, we have been fighting very hard. 1327 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Given our word blood so now we deserved for them 1328 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 1: to be here. Is at the end of the day, 1329 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: two many things. First, he's talking to it's electoral base. 1330 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 1: He's not talking about law, about history, and he's he's 1331 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: showing up that he's just racist. Is let's call the 1332 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 1: right name, governor that that's a that is that's a 1333 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: pretty bold assertion there to call the President of the 1334 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: United States racists. That was the former governor of Puerto Rico, who, 1335 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 1: as you heard, is straight up calling President Trump a racist. 1336 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,680 Speaker 1: Believes that that is somehow constructive or or fair. And 1337 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 1: I think what you're seeing from a lot of politicians 1338 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 1: and talking heads on Puerto Rico is much more about 1339 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 1: using this as a means of attacking Trump than anything 1340 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,879 Speaker 1: having to do with actually helping those on the island. 1341 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: I was just talking to you yesterday in some detail 1342 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: about the wildfires in California that have destroyed over a 1343 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand acres and thousands of homes and killed dozens 1344 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 1: and perhaps even as many as a hundred or two 1345 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 1: hundred people. When all of this is done, we have 1346 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 1: many people who are missing. That's happening right in California. 1347 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 1: Natural disasters are a terrible and terrifying thing. But to 1348 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: politicize them in this way has in the in the 1349 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 1: manner of Puerto Rico, you're not really seeing it with 1350 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: the California wildfires, although people will talk about climate change 1351 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 1: with them, has happened yesterday on the show. Apologies for that. 1352 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: But with Puerto Rico, the assertion is that Trump first 1353 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 1: of all, is not doing enough because he's racist, and 1354 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 1: and that's just an unfortunate, unfair thing for them to say. 1355 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 1: I mean, Trump is a guy from New York City, 1356 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 1: which I should note Puerto Ricans in New York City 1357 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: are one of the most widely represented constituencies in the city. 1358 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 1: If you grow up in New York, you have Puerto 1359 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: Rican friends, you've been to the Puerto Rican Day Parade, 1360 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,719 Speaker 1: and you've had a lot of connectivity to Puerto Ricans 1361 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 1: for a very long time. There are, in fact more 1362 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans where I live here in New York City 1363 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,719 Speaker 1: then there are in the cap little city of Puerto 1364 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,799 Speaker 1: Rico San Juan. So this narrative that Trump is racist 1365 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 1: and doesn't care, it's just nonsense. And the storyline that's 1366 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:14,599 Speaker 1: out there that says that Trump was threatening to pull 1367 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 1: out aid workers all he said, is they can't stay 1368 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 1: there forever. He's trying to in a Trump being way, 1369 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: albeit he's trying to encourage the people of Puerto Rico 1370 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: who are in positions of authority. Puerto Rico has its 1371 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: own civil servants and police and aid workers to get 1372 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 1: going here and make sure they're doing everything possible, really 1373 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 1: at the political level, doing everything possible to rebuild and 1374 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 1: get back to business as usual. Look, I understand this 1375 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 1: is terrible for the island. Tourism is a huge part 1376 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: of the economy that's going to be that's has dropped 1377 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 1: off and will continue to have dropped off for for months. Uh. 1378 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: The infrastructure of the island of Puerto Rico is not 1379 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: the same. And I was aware of this when I 1380 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,719 Speaker 1: was in Puerto Rico. What I don't remember now six 1381 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 1: months ago. The infrastructure the island is not the same 1382 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 1: as on the mainland. It's just not. And I think 1383 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:16,839 Speaker 1: it was a very interesting um view of the political 1384 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: situation Puerto Rico. And I was there because one you 1385 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 1: had an all island work stoppage. They almost prevented me 1386 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,680 Speaker 1: from getting to the airport. I literally beat the highway shutdown. 1387 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 1: They had student groups shutting down the highway to the 1388 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 1: airport on an island that is very dependent on tourism 1389 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 1: for its economy, beat them by about an hour. And 1390 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 1: there was this sentiment that the seventy billion dollar debt 1391 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 1: that Puerto Rico has is everyone else's fault but those 1392 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: who have been making decisions for Puerto Rico, and they 1393 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 1: just wanted default, or that they want the debt to 1394 01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 1: be wiped away. But the only way to do that 1395 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,759 Speaker 1: would be through some kind of default unless the federal 1396 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 1: government just writes them a check. But that's also not 1397 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 1: going to happen. And there are clearly structural economic problems 1398 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,879 Speaker 1: that existed in Puerto Rico long before this natural disaster. 1399 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Half of Puerto Rico's three million inhabitants, fifty percent according 1400 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:22,400 Speaker 1: to Health and Human Services, are on Medicaid meant not Medicare. 1401 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: And then we're not talking to people who are elderly 1402 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 1: who are now getting the entitlement that they've been paying 1403 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 1: for their whole lives. Medica Medicaid is healthcare welfare. So 1404 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: just by that one statistic, half the island of Puerto 1405 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: Rico is on welfare. You can imagine that there are 1406 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 1: other programs that they would need access to as well, 1407 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: beyond just free healthcare in order to sustain their basic needs. 1408 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 1: So Puerto Rico has had economic problems long before the 1409 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,640 Speaker 1: Trump administration came along, and I think there's just a 1410 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of efforts underway to do two things here, including 1411 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 1: people like the former governor of Porto Rico, who we 1412 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: started out this segment with that SoundBite of where on 1413 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,600 Speaker 1: the one hand, this is useful as a means of 1414 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: attacking Trump even if it's completely untrue. They don't care. 1415 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 1: They get to run with the Trump is a racist narrative, 1416 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: which is one of the least favorite things. That is 1417 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 1: where much of the resistance, the hashtag resistance, believes it 1418 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 1: derives its moral authority from the notion of Trump as racist. 1419 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 1: That there are these comparisons being drawn between how good 1420 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 1: Trump's response was for Houston and how bad it was 1421 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: for Puerto Rico, and how Houston is minority and and 1422 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 1: almost almost majority minority and Hispanic. Uh that that doesn't 1423 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,040 Speaker 1: seem to factor into the analysis from the Democrats and 1424 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 1: from the partisan left wing media on this. But there's 1425 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 1: also this blame shifting that you see happening, whether it's 1426 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 1: the mayor of San Juan with her you know, nasty 1427 01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,479 Speaker 1: woman t shirts and all of the political grandstanding she's 1428 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 1: been doing. Whereby they want to blame somebody else, not 1429 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: just for the problems of the current what they call 1430 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 1: la situation, which is what they're referring to the disaster 1431 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: of Hurricane Maria as like the aftermath of it, but 1432 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 1: also to just point to the mainland and all of 1433 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 1: the politicians on Puerto Rico except for the current governor 1434 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: who has been praising the federal government response and has 1435 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,559 Speaker 1: been friendly towards Trump and what and what his efforts 1436 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,880 Speaker 1: have been. But you have a whole political class in 1437 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico that knows that the politically, the easy political 1438 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 1: winner for them here is just to say, see, it's 1439 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: all the mainlands fault. They don't care, they don't even 1440 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: know that we're citizens. We are owed this, We are 1441 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 1: owed more than what we're getting. I mean, the rhetoric 1442 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: coming out of Puerto Rico is not is not good 1443 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,600 Speaker 1: from the politicians there, because you would think that the 1444 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 1: focus would be much more on rolling up their sleeves 1445 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:08,040 Speaker 1: and engaging in the process with FEMA and with others 1446 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,679 Speaker 1: of getting the power back on doing everything in their 1447 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 1: power to tackle problems. Instead, you're you're seeing I'm sorry, 1448 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 1: you're just seeing a lot of political preening from some 1449 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 1: of these local politicians in Puerto Rico. And yeah, I know, 1450 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 1: people are suffering. It's terrible. There are particularly rural communities 1451 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: that have been cut off. They there are whole mountain 1452 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 1: sides that have come down. There's a tremendous amount of 1453 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 1: debris and road obstruction, and there's not power. And I 1454 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: understand all of that, right, I'm I'm reading about it. 1455 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 1: I see it all. But those things did not happen 1456 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: because Trump or the Republicans or the US mainland don't 1457 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 1: care about Puerto Rico. And those things are not still 1458 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 1: the case because Trump and the Republican Party and mainland 1459 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: US citizens don't care about Puerto Rico. It is just 1460 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: an unfortunate circumstances and the federal government is doing what 1461 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 1: it can. But as I always say, this is also 1462 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 1: at some level or reminder of the government is just 1463 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,679 Speaker 1: not that good at stuff. Uh. We like to look 1464 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 1: at the response and think that the federal government can 1465 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: just come in and it's amazing, and you know, other 1466 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 1: than our military capabilities and our taxation capabilities. The federal 1467 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 1: government really is not that good at a whole lot 1468 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:31,599 Speaker 1: of stuff. The federal government is good at war fighting 1469 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,280 Speaker 1: because of our military, and it's good at taxation because 1470 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 1: it likes to take money from us, because that's what 1471 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 1: keeps it going. Beyond that, the federal government is always 1472 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 1: going to be slow. It's always going to be disappointing. 1473 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,240 Speaker 1: And so the lesson if anything of Puerto Rico is 1474 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,639 Speaker 1: local communities and at the state level and below. They 1475 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: want to take their destinies into their own hands as 1476 01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 1: much as possible, because whether your Puerto Rico or hugh Ston, 1477 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 1: or Florida or California or New York after Sandy, wherever 1478 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,639 Speaker 1: it may be, if you rely on the Feds, probably 1479 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 1: going to be disappointed. I was just sick. I was shocked. 1480 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 1: I was appalled. Um. It was something that was just 1481 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 1: intolerable in every way. And you know, like so many 1482 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,680 Speaker 1: people who have come forward and spoken out, this was 1483 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 1: a different side of a person who I and many 1484 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 1: others had known Uh in the past, have called him 1485 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,640 Speaker 1: a friend. Yes, I probably would have, UM, and and 1486 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,440 Speaker 1: so with so many others. You know, people in democratic 1487 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: politics for a couple of decades appreciated his help and support. 1488 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 1: And I think these stories coming to light now and 1489 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: people who never spoke out before having the courage to 1490 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: speak out, UH, just clearly demonstrates UH that this behavior 1491 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 1: that he engaged in cannot be tolerated. That is from 1492 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,639 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton on Harvey Weinstein, who tolerated very similar behavior 1493 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 1: from her husband while he was governor of Arkansas and 1494 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 1: then President of the United States. So it is pretty galling. 1495 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing to hear the former first Lady and 1496 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 1: former Secretary of State and twice would be President, Hillary 1497 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Clinton talking about how this is just beyond the pale unacceptable. 1498 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,679 Speaker 1: We got Emily Zannati joining us now. She's a writer 1499 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,679 Speaker 1: for The Daily Wire, and it's a Nati time everybody. Emily, 1500 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 1: thanks for calling in, Thanks for having me. I just 1501 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:49,320 Speaker 1: wanted your first reaction to Hillary now just Oh, I 1502 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,720 Speaker 1: can't imagine something so terrible. It's Harvey Weinstein. It's like, 1503 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 1: I bet she heard stuff. I bet she knew, and 1504 01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 1: I bet she didn't care. There's no way that these 1505 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 1: people haven't heard anything about Harvey Weyanstein. He's been at 1506 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 1: this for decades. Women across Hollywood knew that this was 1507 01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 1: going on, the stories were out there, but she waited 1508 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 1: nearly a week to even issue sort of a half 1509 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 1: hearted statement and now saying that, oh, she has no idea. 1510 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 1: She had no idea. He was just a dear friend 1511 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 1: who cut her a lot of checks until she was 1512 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 1: willing to forgive a lot of sins. And by the way, 1513 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, you got Anthony Bourdain, who is very anti Trump, 1514 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 1: left wing guy, used to be a chef and so 1515 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: I kind of liked that whole part of his his deal. 1516 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 1: But now he's like a political pundit who also sometimes 1517 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 1: eats food. But he came out and said, pretty in 1518 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: pretty stark terms that Hillary's basically Hillary no fool. She 1519 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,679 Speaker 1: knew about this, That's what That's what he was saying. 1520 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 1: And people on Twitter were freaking out at him because 1521 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: that's how tribal the mindset has become. That you're not 1522 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: allowed to call Hillary out on this issue, even if 1523 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,839 Speaker 1: you're progressive who thinks that the show you Know Girls 1524 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,720 Speaker 1: is groundbreaking and what it has done for feminism, You're 1525 01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,640 Speaker 1: not allowed to call Hillary Clinton out. No, And he 1526 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 1: actually said, you know, I respected her, I voted for her. 1527 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 1: I thought she was one of the most qualified people 1528 01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 1: to run for president. But I can't believe that someone 1529 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 1: who holds themselves out to be so smart was so 1530 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 1: dumb about this. But it turns out she really was. 1531 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 1: Either she was willfully ignorant or she's completely lying. I 1532 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I wonder, by the way, what's going to happen with 1533 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,280 Speaker 1: money that's that's been given to all the Democrats here. 1534 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: I know this is something I know, this is something 1535 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,080 Speaker 1: that you know you have been digging into. But but 1536 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 1: Hillary won't specify what the charity is that she's going 1537 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,320 Speaker 1: to give the money to that was given to her 1538 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: by Weinstein, which is ridiculous because it took us about 1539 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 1: forty five minutes to find out the exact amount. Can 1540 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,960 Speaker 1: we can we play we actually have Hillary talking about 1541 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: this issue, Emily, and then I want you to weigh 1542 01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 1: in it. Would you give the money back? Well, there's 1543 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,759 Speaker 1: no one to get it back to. What other people 1544 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 1: are saying, what my former colleagues are saying is they're 1545 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,680 Speaker 1: going to donate it to charity. And of course I 1546 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: will do that. I give ten percent am I income 1547 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 1: to charity every year. This will be part of that. 1548 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: But won't say what I I saw some people joking, Well, 1549 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 1: she's clearly going to give it to the Clinton Foundation. 1550 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a joke. I think that's what 1551 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 1: she'll do. No, it's if she gives. She says she 1552 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 1: gives ten percent of her income every year to charity, 1553 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,840 Speaker 1: and that she's going to continue to give ten percent 1554 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,160 Speaker 1: of her income to charity. But she says that this 1555 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 1: year that ten percent is going to magically come from 1556 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 1: the money that Harvey Weinstein gave her. So even though 1557 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: she's cutting the exact same check and the accountant will 1558 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: get the exact same money, she says that it's all 1559 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,479 Speaker 1: wine Stein money, so she can't be held liable at 1560 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 1: all for anything. Tell me about this piece up on 1561 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 1: delhi wire dot com where you are a writer about 1562 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 1: attorney Lisa Bloom and her lashing out at the left 1563 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,360 Speaker 1: after they condemn her defense of Harvey Weinstein. What happened here? 1564 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom says that everyone is just attacking her and 1565 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 1: using her so much pain because they were critical of 1566 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 1: her for stepping onto Weinstein's defense team. Almost immediately, of course, 1567 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 1: as soon as Wine the New York Times Weinstein story 1568 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,879 Speaker 1: came out on last Thursday, Lisa Bloom was at his defense. 1569 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,840 Speaker 1: And she's of course a feminist attorney. Her mom is 1570 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 1: Gloria Alread. She's supposedly a crusader for women who have 1571 01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 1: been domestically abused, who have been sexually harassed, and yet 1572 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 1: here she is basically standing up for a guy who 1573 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 1: has a track record of years of sexual harassment and abuse. 1574 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 1: She eventually got off the Harvey Weinstein train after her 1575 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 1: own mother criticized her for taking him as a client, 1576 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: But now she says she's so hurt because she was 1577 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 1: just seeking justice and the left just doesn't understand that 1578 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,240 Speaker 1: she was just seeking justice. I always remember being at 1579 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,640 Speaker 1: a meeting of the Council of Foreign Relations, which I 1580 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 1: know now it's like bugs at CFR Bilderberg's wominati, But 1581 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, the actual cf are not the one that 1582 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 1: the conspiracy theorists imagine in their head. There's just a 1583 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of memo reading and tea drinking at CFAR, which 1584 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 1: is really what I exceled that in my government career, 1585 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,800 Speaker 1: memo memo writing and tea drinking. But I remember being 1586 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 1: there and a lawyer, a longstanding very partner like name 1587 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 1: partner at a big firm, went off on this Tangent 1588 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,080 Speaker 1: once that where there was a big gathering of of uh, 1589 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,599 Speaker 1: you know, powerful CFR folks, and he was like, there 1590 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 1: was a time when you when the clients that you chose, 1591 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: that was a decision, right that you know, you don't 1592 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,120 Speaker 1: have to represent the worst person ever or and you 1593 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,720 Speaker 1: certainly don't have to do absolutely anything to get that 1594 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,040 Speaker 1: person off. But are you're saying that that legal ethics 1595 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 1: have just changed? Essentially? I think that that one group 1596 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,360 Speaker 1: that gets off way too easy here with the Weinstein 1597 01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:50,799 Speaker 1: thing are the lawyers that are threatened to sue women 1598 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,439 Speaker 1: that clearly want you know, if this is the tenth 1599 01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 1: woman that you're threatening to sue for slander that says 1600 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,519 Speaker 1: that Weinstein raped her, you're you're bailing out a rapist 1601 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,160 Speaker 1: as the law I mean, that's what you're doing. Yeah, 1602 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 1: And it's it's an entire team of people. So it's 1603 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 1: the people of the Weinstein company who have made the 1604 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 1: decisions to agree to the sexual harassment settlements. It's the 1605 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,839 Speaker 1: pr people who went to the media to basically smear 1606 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 1: these women um every opportunity they get there would be 1607 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 1: a negative story draft on women who even so much 1608 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 1: as resisted Harvey Weinstein. He ended people's careers. So there's 1609 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 1: certainly were Hollywood producers and directors who took phone calls 1610 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 1: from him. There's this whole team of people who are 1611 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:41,200 Speaker 1: conspiring to make this man the kind of disgusting oh 1612 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 1: that he really is. So it's it's it's bizarre that 1613 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,360 Speaker 1: people think, oh, it's just one person or it's just Weinstein. 1614 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,720 Speaker 1: It's a whole culture of corruption. Tell me about the 1615 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 1: we're by the way. This is where I say hard 1616 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,280 Speaker 1: turn everybody. So this is a hard turn. We're telling 1617 01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,240 Speaker 1: me about the sexy First Lady costume, which is the 1618 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,840 Speaker 1: weirdest hellow mean idea ever. This is your piece up 1619 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: of the daily water. This is my pa is like 1620 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,840 Speaker 1: speaking of sexual harassmer right um so yandy dot com 1621 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,720 Speaker 1: which is kind of famous for making these really ridiculous 1622 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,559 Speaker 1: Halloween costumes for women, like a sexy carrot, sexy pizza. 1623 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,680 Speaker 1: They're always super weird. This year they've come out with 1624 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 1: a sexy Milannia Trump costume. So for some reason you 1625 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,080 Speaker 1: want to dress of a First Lady but also be 1626 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 1: half naked, you can get this costume for seventy dollars 1627 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,439 Speaker 1: and it's just like a kneeling skirt and a bra 1628 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 1: top and then some white gloves which you have to 1629 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 1: pay a little bit extra four. But there's also a 1630 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,680 Speaker 1: sexy Donald Trump. So if if you want to go 1631 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,800 Speaker 1: with a pair, you can go with where I mean, 1632 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 1: any any Donald Trump costume is obviously sexy. Donald Trump is. Yeah, 1633 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,000 Speaker 1: it's the hair. He's very pot Yeah. I was just 1634 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,719 Speaker 1: say the guy's hair is very popular with the ladies. 1635 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 1: You're like, Uh, sometimes depends on which ladies you talk to. 1636 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,519 Speaker 1: Your Donald Trump is popular with, right, exactly. That's one 1637 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 1: more thing. Pumpkin spice as a flavor. Should it be 1638 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 1: year round or is it overrated? I will not drink 1639 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice. I can't stand the flavor, so I am 1640 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 1: down with it. I would probably regulate it out of 1641 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 1: the market if I could. And ice coffee should or 1642 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: should not be more expensive than normal coffee? Um should not, exactly? 1643 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm not alone here, all right. Everybody's a 1644 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,800 Speaker 1: naughty time. Go to daily wire dot com to read 1645 01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: her latest Emily's a natty writer for the Daily Wire. 1646 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks what. We'll be back in 1647 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 1: just a few talking a bit about the markets, the 1648 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: debt and team Bucks speaks. Stay with me. The country. 1649 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 1: We took it over twenty trillion. As you know, the 1650 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,479 Speaker 1: last eight years, they borrowed more than it did in 1651 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,439 Speaker 1: the whole history of our country. So they borrowed more 1652 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:55,240 Speaker 1: than ten trillion dollars, right, and yet we picked up 1653 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,400 Speaker 1: five point two trillions just in the suck market, possibly 1654 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,479 Speaker 1: picked up the whole thing in terms of the first 1655 01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 1: time months in terms of value. So you could say, 1656 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,400 Speaker 1: in one sense, we're really increasing values and maybe in 1657 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 1: a sense we're reducing debt. But we're very honored, but 1658 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,200 Speaker 1: we're very very happy with what's happening on Wall Street. 1659 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you now. That was from 1660 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,240 Speaker 1: a Trump sitting down with our French Sean Hannity last night. 1661 01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 1: This this Trump saying that stock market value means that 1662 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 1: whatever the debt is, it's like it cancels it out. 1663 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 1: That's that's not how that's not how it works. That's 1664 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 1: not how that goes. I just want to I'm keeping 1665 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: it here. I am keeping it real. That is not 1666 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 1: because that that stock value, as we have seen, not 1667 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:47,200 Speaker 1: only could disappear very rapidly, but it is historically speaking 1668 01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 1: in inevitability that there will be a correction and that 1669 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,800 Speaker 1: there will be a downturn in the market. I mean, 1670 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 1: and unless you think that history we're gonna break from 1671 01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 1: history in the market is just going to keep going 1672 01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,360 Speaker 1: up and up and up. I know. The also the 1673 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,719 Speaker 1: possibility of a sideways market, which people in Wall Street 1674 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 1: and in finance will grumble about. Pretty amazing that Wall 1675 01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Street is still the generic term used for the financial 1676 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 1: industry when most of the financial industry isn't on Wall 1677 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,800 Speaker 1: Street and all this stuff has done electronically now anyway, 1678 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of the most important financial institutions, or 1679 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 1: at least important major funds, for example, hedge funds are 1680 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,640 Speaker 1: not even a New York city anymore. A lot of 1681 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,719 Speaker 1: them are in Connecticut. And Wall Street is named for 1682 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:37,240 Speaker 1: a street back in the old days when New York 1683 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 1: was actually under the control of the Dutch, was New Amsterdam, 1684 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,200 Speaker 1: and you know, the they built a wall to be 1685 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,519 Speaker 1: able to fortify in case there was a Native American raid, right, 1686 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's kind of an amazing little history. 1687 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,000 Speaker 1: What do you think about it? Wall Street, Yeah, not 1688 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:56,800 Speaker 1: has nothing to do really with the financial industry where 1689 01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 1: but it's the shorthand that we use anyway. Uh, the 1690 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,479 Speaker 1: reality here is that the market right now is good. 1691 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 1: That a lot of the Trump it's very good, uh, 1692 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of the rhetoric that I believe Trump 1693 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 1: has brought into his administration has been helping. But the 1694 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 1: debt is still fair, and we should understand that we 1695 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:24,639 Speaker 1: are already in something of a red zone for piling 1696 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 1: up obligations that future generations are going to have to 1697 01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,080 Speaker 1: pay off. And this much you can be certain of 1698 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,479 Speaker 1: in terms of where the stock market stands. Uh. If 1699 01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,639 Speaker 1: there's a massive correction, you know, if that were to happen, 1700 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: if there's a stock market crash, whatever it may be, 1701 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,559 Speaker 1: the media will turn all of this Trump talk into 1702 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 1: a one long campaign ad for the mid terms. So 1703 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know that when when economics, or when 1704 01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,080 Speaker 1: the markets, when the economy, that's a better way to 1705 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,559 Speaker 1: put it. When the economy is doing well, the president 1706 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,920 Speaker 1: gets more credit for it than he should, and when 1707 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,599 Speaker 1: the economy is doing badly, the credit president gets more 1708 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,599 Speaker 1: blamed than he should. In this instance, there's not enough 1709 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 1: that is being done right now, I think to prepare 1710 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:21,320 Speaker 1: for the inevitable well change that will come, because we 1711 01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 1: can't just have asset prices continuously inflated and going up 1712 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: and up and up. And what you've really done because 1713 01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,919 Speaker 1: of the way that they have been manipulating monetary policy 1714 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,360 Speaker 1: is you have made those who have assets lots of 1715 01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 1: money on paper just because they have assets, whether it's 1716 01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,559 Speaker 1: a home or stocks. And those who are laborers, those 1717 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:49,160 Speaker 1: who work, uh, they are in an increasingly difficult position 1718 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,519 Speaker 1: because it's harder for them to buy a home and 1719 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,519 Speaker 1: they don't get the lift that so many others do 1720 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,120 Speaker 1: from owning assets. So this is just something I'm not 1721 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,519 Speaker 1: gonna spend much to. We're gonna get into Team Buck 1722 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,280 Speaker 1: speaks here in just a second, which will definitely be 1723 01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:08,080 Speaker 1: more fun. But I worry that the administration right now 1724 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,720 Speaker 1: isn't making the case at all for what needs to 1725 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,160 Speaker 1: change with regard to government spending. And look, this isn't 1726 01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,320 Speaker 1: sexy stuff to talk about it, I get that, But 1727 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember the Tea Party. I'm all 1728 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,799 Speaker 1: enough to remember when there were huge rallies of tens 1729 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 1: of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people in this country 1730 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 1: that we're concerned about the debt, and that was trillions 1731 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,519 Speaker 1: of dollars ago, and we are doing nothing right now 1732 01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,880 Speaker 1: to change that and to say that the stock market 1733 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:41,760 Speaker 1: offsets the debt, that that is not a that is 1734 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 1: not sound economic thinking. It's just not you know. Look, 1735 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,800 Speaker 1: I I keep it real here. I tell you what 1736 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 1: I think. For example, that it is not helpful when 1737 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,320 Speaker 1: the President says that we should look at maybe taking 1738 01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 1: away NBC's broadcast license because he's not gonna do it. 1739 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,639 Speaker 1: I know he's just trolling them, but at so much 1740 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,800 Speaker 1: fodder to the anti Trump left, and I think it's 1741 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,799 Speaker 1: just a mistake from pr perspective. Right now, the times 1742 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 1: are good, the markets are strong, the economy seems like 1743 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,760 Speaker 1: it can only go in one direction. That's when you 1744 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,880 Speaker 1: want to start making noise about being responsible and making 1745 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:24,120 Speaker 1: changes that will prepare us for an imminent future. Wherefore, 1746 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,320 Speaker 1: at least a little while, things are gonna feel a 1747 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 1: little rough. It's coming, all right. There is everyone I 1748 01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:31,960 Speaker 1: talked to you, and I speak to some very smart 1749 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,720 Speaker 1: people in the world of markets and stocks. I don't 1750 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,080 Speaker 1: know much about it, but there are others who do. 1751 01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:43,160 Speaker 1: And it's coming, for sure. There will be a time, alright, 1752 01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:47,120 Speaker 1: seem we'll be right back. I'm dying in your beds. 1753 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Many us from now would you be willing to from 1754 01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 1: best day to that for one tot, just one totun here. 1755 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:08,719 Speaker 1: I tell you know, teams, some days you just need 1756 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 1: a Brave Heart quote, and for me today was one 1757 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 1: of those days. I still think it's my favorite all 1758 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 1: in my favorite movie of all time, and it's one 1759 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:21,200 Speaker 1: of the rare occasions where I have agreed with the 1760 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 1: Academy Awards when they gave out a Best Picture winner. 1761 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,120 Speaker 1: And people say it had an effect on history as well. 1762 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:31,400 Speaker 1: There are some who have claimed that the Braveheart movie 1763 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:38,160 Speaker 1: was responsible for a surge in Scottish nationalist and separatist sentiment. 1764 01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 1: Speaking of nationalism and separatism, I think we should probably 1765 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:48,280 Speaker 1: return to the Catalonia independence movement in Spain, which has 1766 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,240 Speaker 1: really gotten much less attention in the press than one 1767 01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:56,000 Speaker 1: would think it would, given that it could be the 1768 01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,519 Speaker 1: breakup of the It could be a signal the beginning 1769 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:03,520 Speaker 1: of the breakup of the fourth largest economy in the EU, 1770 01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,759 Speaker 1: and so it also could result in a domino effect 1771 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,960 Speaker 1: of other places within Europe that decided, you know what, 1772 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,040 Speaker 1: we we kind of want to do our own thing. 1773 01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,879 Speaker 1: Isn't it fascinating that that part of the world, Europe, 1774 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:22,040 Speaker 1: which is more than any other region associated with internationalism 1775 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:30,960 Speaker 1: and globalism and the multilateralist U n Davos ethic whatever 1776 01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,720 Speaker 1: that is that there are people in Europe that are 1777 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: sick of having no sovereignty and they want to feel 1778 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 1: like they have control over some destiny, over their own destinies, 1779 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,240 Speaker 1: their own lives, and they also want to have some 1780 01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,600 Speaker 1: control over the culture around them and the people that 1781 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,479 Speaker 1: they have to call neighbors and countrymen. They don't just 1782 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,600 Speaker 1: want it to be left too far away bureaucrats. Some 1783 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 1: interesting lessons we could draw for here, but I want 1784 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,360 Speaker 1: to finish out today with what is one of my 1785 01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 1: very favorite segments, which is Team Buck Speaks. I get 1786 01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,880 Speaker 1: so many amazing messages from you, and especially because we 1787 01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 1: have a large contingent of Team Buck that listens to 1788 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,120 Speaker 1: the show either on demand on the I Heart app 1789 01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:19,600 Speaker 1: or listens via podcast later on. And apologies, I know 1790 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,519 Speaker 1: we had a podcast delay getting it up today that 1791 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,559 Speaker 1: was a technical issue, But because so many of you 1792 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,559 Speaker 1: listen and not necessarily in real time, I always like 1793 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 1: you to know that you can not just be a 1794 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,240 Speaker 1: part of the show by listening and by being a 1795 01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:34,920 Speaker 1: part of all the things that we do that way, 1796 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:40,840 Speaker 1: but also you can send me your specific comments, questions, additions, revisions, 1797 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:47,840 Speaker 1: uh sonnets about making America great again, screenplays about General 1798 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Maddis becoming a ronin a wandering samurai, and a post 1799 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 1: apocalyptic future where he takes on all comers, including the 1800 01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:01,720 Speaker 1: mutant overlord. S'more, I don't know I've made that up 1801 01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 1: on the fly, but you know what I'm saying. Whatever 1802 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 1: creative ideas you have, whatever you've got, please do send 1803 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,920 Speaker 1: it my way. Al right. First, up here in Team 1804 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,519 Speaker 1: Buck Speaks, we have David who sent a photo of 1805 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:19,599 Speaker 1: his beard slash phenomenal handlebar mustache with the caption, Hey, Buck, 1806 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,639 Speaker 1: do you think Miss Molly would let you grow one 1807 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,000 Speaker 1: shields high brother? Well, David, I will have you know 1808 01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,639 Speaker 1: that Ms Molly is a big fan of facial hair 1809 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 1: and always wants me to have a scruffier look going. 1810 01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,800 Speaker 1: But because I do a fair amount of TV during 1811 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,600 Speaker 1: the week, TV executives, especially for whatever reason, for a 1812 01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:41,000 Speaker 1: guy my age, they tend to be very opposed to 1813 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:46,120 Speaker 1: facial hair, especially scruffy facial hair, and so I I 1814 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,760 Speaker 1: go clean shaven. But I will have you know that 1815 01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,880 Speaker 1: Miss Molly would almost certainly very much appear very much 1816 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,680 Speaker 1: applaud your handlebar mustache, and if I could grow one 1817 01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 1: and not have it be professionally problematic, I would sly 1818 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,679 Speaker 1: do it. We got Joe writing in with the following 1819 01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 1: buck big news for Team Hensel. After a ten month 1820 01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 1: screening process, I was asked to join the San Francisco 1821 01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:16,200 Speaker 1: Police Department. So on October I'll be starting the academy 1822 01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:20,120 Speaker 1: at the tender age of fifty one. Well, Joe, I 1823 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 1: just can't tell you enough how proud we are of 1824 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 1: you and fifty one. Huh starting the Academy SFPD. That's great, 1825 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,639 Speaker 1: that's great. Congratulations and all the best and check in 1826 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,759 Speaker 1: the future and let us know how it's going. Shields 1827 01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,679 Speaker 1: High Christy writes in I've been listening since the Saturday 1828 01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 1: shows and I'm so glad that more people are getting 1829 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,320 Speaker 1: to hear you. Also glad to see you on Fox 1830 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,960 Speaker 1: News again as I really miss Red Eye and Tales 1831 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,120 Speaker 1: of the Shagged Wagon. Also, MS Molly needs to watch 1832 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,800 Speaker 1: Top Gun before she's she harasses you about not seeing 1833 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,840 Speaker 1: the Harry Potter movies. Take care and Shields High, Well, 1834 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,639 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Christy, and I'm as Red Eye too. 1835 01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,479 Speaker 1: I thought that was a great show on Fox. It 1836 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,280 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. I think Greg Gottfeld did 1837 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:07,680 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. It was. I always felt like they 1838 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 1: could have taken that show and just with a with 1839 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of additional distribution, it could have become 1840 01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,800 Speaker 1: a real phenomenon on the right. I mean it already 1841 01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 1: was beating even though it's on at three o'clock in 1842 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:24,200 Speaker 1: the morning because of DVR ing. It was beating other networks, 1843 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 1: actual news broadcasts during the normal news cycle. So Red 1844 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 1: Eye was was a great show, and I miss it too. 1845 01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,360 Speaker 1: I definitely missed doing that show. Are we have Tom here? 1846 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:39,000 Speaker 1: With Buck? I had twenty years of back hip and 1847 01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,599 Speaker 1: leg paying a leg pain from an Army parachute training mishap. 1848 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,400 Speaker 1: Military medicine did nothing. Civilian medicine wanted desperately to do 1849 01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,919 Speaker 1: surgery in I received a book by Dr John Sarno 1850 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,759 Speaker 1: called The Mind Body Connection. I read it, I self 1851 01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:00,599 Speaker 1: diagnosed with a syndrome called tension myo sitis. Within thirty 1852 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,040 Speaker 1: days I was paying free, will be twenty years pain 1853 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,160 Speaker 1: free soon. Nothing short of a miracle. Get any of 1854 01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Starnos books, Little the risk lots to gain shield time. 1855 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,840 Speaker 1: My friend well, Tom, that sounds great. Always looking for 1856 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,840 Speaker 1: new things to read and learn about, and I will 1857 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 1: check out this Dr Starnos book. Um let's now get 1858 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,360 Speaker 1: to Richard. He writes in Buck, thank you so much 1859 01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,599 Speaker 1: for what you said regarding police and the very hard 1860 01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,559 Speaker 1: job they have. My father is a retired colonel who 1861 01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:35,120 Speaker 1: was in charge of all detectives for Baltimore City p D, 1862 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,080 Speaker 1: who had nearly thirty years of service. If you've ever 1863 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:42,200 Speaker 1: read David Simon's book Homicide, A Year on the Killing Streets, 1864 01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:46,040 Speaker 1: you've read about my pop. He gave David permission to 1865 01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,040 Speaker 1: do the right alongs. My father in law also has 1866 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,720 Speaker 1: nearly thirty years on the St. Paul Minneapolis p D, 1867 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,240 Speaker 1: mostly in narcotics. His partner was executed by the Black 1868 01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 1: Panthers in the seventies. They both served with honor and 1869 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,719 Speaker 1: made many sacrifices. Your words today are so needed. Shields 1870 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,680 Speaker 1: high Well, Richard, thank you so much for writing in 1871 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,919 Speaker 1: and very interesting stories. Your family law enforcement background is fascinating. 1872 01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing with us. Okay, Rick writes in 1873 01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,920 Speaker 1: in response to your Las Vegas portion of the show. 1874 01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, I listened to a short recording of 1875 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,360 Speaker 1: the gunfire from Las Vegas. I was in the army 1876 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 1: and fired weapons systems that fired both five five six 1877 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,439 Speaker 1: and seven six two. To me, that weapon being fired 1878 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,599 Speaker 1: was belt fed and a seven six two five five 1879 01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,800 Speaker 1: six has a higher pitched crack, whereas seven six two 1880 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,080 Speaker 1: is more of a lower thud. There are a lot 1881 01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,519 Speaker 1: of things that the police have said that just make 1882 01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,960 Speaker 1: absolutely no sense. Well, Rick, I'm trying to ask all 1883 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,920 Speaker 1: the questions here because they're certainly unanswered ones. That much 1884 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 1: we know without any question, Okay. Sandy writes in one 1885 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,920 Speaker 1: of the great choice of life is listening to your program, 1886 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,400 Speaker 1: particularly the historical references they provide perspective and context. And 1887 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 1: the Lord bless you, keep you and continue to light 1888 01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,640 Speaker 1: your way. Well, thank you very much, Sandy, as a 1889 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,760 Speaker 1: very kind note, and it is very much appreciated. Jeremy 1890 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,800 Speaker 1: writes in with the following buck, I hear you talk 1891 01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,559 Speaker 1: about the Kurdish people needing their own state and that 1892 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,160 Speaker 1: the administration is wrong to not want this. How is 1893 01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:16,360 Speaker 1: this situation different from the Palestinian Israeli issue? Yes, the 1894 01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,760 Speaker 1: Kurdish support the US, but can you maybe expand on 1895 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:24,200 Speaker 1: the comparison in the show? Um, Well, it's a hard 1896 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:28,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a too rough a comparison of situations 1897 01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:33,240 Speaker 1: for it to be useful to talk about Kurdish separatism 1898 01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:39,240 Speaker 1: within Iraq versus uh the Israeli Palestinian issue, because when 1899 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,479 Speaker 1: you're talking about the Kourage, there's no there's no dispute 1900 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:46,880 Speaker 1: that there is a Kurdish majority region of the country 1901 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,680 Speaker 1: where everyone is speaking Kurdish, where the Kurds already as 1902 01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 1: certain control um and it's just a function of of 1903 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,439 Speaker 1: negotiating over some of the places of overlap like kirk 1904 01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 1: Cook and the oil fields, whereas and this is a 1905 01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:05,560 Speaker 1: very shorthand answer to a much bigger discussion and problem 1906 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,040 Speaker 1: in the case of Israelis and Palestinians. The biggest issue 1907 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,040 Speaker 1: that we face in that conflict is that the Palestinians 1908 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:18,480 Speaker 1: now have multiple generations of being largely indoctrinated and educated 1909 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,280 Speaker 1: to believe that they will eventually get it all back 1910 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:26,200 Speaker 1: and that they will destroy the Jewish state. So if 1911 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,720 Speaker 1: it was just a question of Okay, we have the 1912 01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,680 Speaker 1: West Bank and the Gaza Strip and let's negotiate, then 1913 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,360 Speaker 1: I think we actually could solve the Israeli Palestinian issue. 1914 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,800 Speaker 1: But Hamas doesn't want just a little more that they 1915 01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:41,840 Speaker 1: don't want to negotiate. They want to win, and winning 1916 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,559 Speaker 1: means the destruction of Israel. So I think it's a 1917 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,160 Speaker 1: very different situation than what the Kords are dealing with 1918 01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 1: right now in northern Iraq. But as I was saying 1919 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,920 Speaker 1: to you, philosophically, we all need to understand that there's 1920 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,840 Speaker 1: not a clear rules of the road established for you know, 1921 01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,160 Speaker 1: who gets to have their own state and who to 1922 01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,599 Speaker 1: just suck it up and deal with it that they're 1923 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,800 Speaker 1: stuck in somebody else's states. You know, if if a 1924 01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,840 Speaker 1: portion of you know, let's say, uh, you know, a 1925 01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:14,080 Speaker 1: portion of Oregon. You know, if Portland's wanted to create 1926 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,960 Speaker 1: its own little country, there's some pretty radical politics there. 1927 01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,040 Speaker 1: Should they be allowed to? Well, there are tiny countries. 1928 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,559 Speaker 1: Vatican City is not really a country, but there are 1929 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 1: some tiny countries and principalities in Europe. Why can't Portland 1930 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,559 Speaker 1: become its own little nation with its own laws? Well, 1931 01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,080 Speaker 1: because we'd say they can't write. I mean, it's it's 1932 01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,439 Speaker 1: not a not an obvious and clear cut issue. I 1933 01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:39,439 Speaker 1: will say that. So, uh Man, I always Team buck 1934 01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,160 Speaker 1: Speaks is fun because it's I get to see so 1935 01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,639 Speaker 1: many of your thoughts in commentary about about the show 1936 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:48,040 Speaker 1: and it I get going with it and I realized that, 1937 01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, I could do a whole hour on this stuff. 1938 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,720 Speaker 1: But maybe we'll get into more of this tomorrow. I've 1939 01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:58,920 Speaker 1: got a lot of bookmarked and uh well already picked 1940 01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 1: out messages from all of you on Facebook if you 1941 01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,559 Speaker 1: want to send me a thought, Facebook dot com slash 1942 01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,160 Speaker 1: buck Sexton. By the way, I really appreciate all the 1943 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,639 Speaker 1: doctors who have been reaching out, um mostly to tell 1944 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 1: me that they're happy to give me advice on how 1945 01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:15,080 Speaker 1: to deal with like chronic foot pain. So thank you 1946 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:16,720 Speaker 1: for that, as well as all the rest of you 1947 01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,759 Speaker 1: who just deal with constant pain and are expressing your sympathy. 1948 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 1: Very kind of you all. So with all that, Ms 1949 01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,000 Speaker 1: Molly is back tomorrow. I'm very excited about that. It's 1950 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,360 Speaker 1: been kind of a boring week. I've been doing so 1951 01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,280 Speaker 1: much cooking here in the well, not in the Freedom Hunt, 1952 01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,360 Speaker 1: but in the whatever I call my home. I have 1953 01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,439 Speaker 1: to come up with the buck layer. That sounds kind 1954 01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,759 Speaker 1: of weird. I gotta call with something that the buck Cave. 1955 01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,920 Speaker 1: There we go, I like the buck Cave. Please do 1956 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,720 Speaker 1: download the podcast, will make sure to get that one 1957 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,080 Speaker 1: up on time. This time and until tomorrow. We get 1958 01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:53,320 Speaker 1: into a freestyle Friday my friends Shields High