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Speaker 1: Dan Hansus and I am joined interrup filled with heroes

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Roshal. What is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: And now now we know that Ricky Hollywood behind the

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Speaker 1: we'll just roll with it Um. This is the week

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Speaker 1: five version flagship program. I'll be around the NFL podcast

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Speaker 1: where we go through all of the action from Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Uh and it was a another fun day of football.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. By the way, two teams still undefeated, both

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Speaker 1: All Right, the Cleveland Browns and the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: First time these teams have been victorious on the same

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was three years. Mark. It's

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Speaker 1: a testament to UM, to you and I singularly, the

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Speaker 1: It's just we've dealt with nothing but ill at ease

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that's the last time the Browns want a

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Speaker 1: And speaking of being a warrior, I'm under the weather

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Speaker 1: let's talk about some football games that were played on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And let's start with a rematch of the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes worst game. That's not to say he played terribly.

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Speaker 1: and the Greatest Show on Turf, Rams and this year's RAM.

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Speaker 1: Those are the only five teams I thought. I personally

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Speaker 1: thought golf wasn't that bad. I think I thought he

431
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Speaker 1: was pretty solid here. He was still finding guys wide open,

432
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Speaker 1: running wide open. He was putting balls on guys. He

433
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Speaker 1: was a little shaky in the first half. The two

434
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Speaker 1: picks weren't really on him. One got popped up in

435
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Speaker 1: the air, the other on was on a hail Mary.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the half, I thought he played

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Speaker 1: solid again. I wouldn't take anything away from him. If

438
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Speaker 1: you are dealing with some concussion issues going forward, their

439
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: schedule lines up well for the Rams. You've got the

440
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Speaker 1: Broncos and forty Niners is your next two opponents. That's nice.

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Speaker 1: This loss, I think really drove Pete Carroll a little crazy,

442
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Speaker 1: and you can't blame him. It's such a big game.

443
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Speaker 1: If you win this game, your season looks totally different.

444
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Speaker 1: You run the ball like crazy on the on the Rams,

445
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Speaker 1: Chris Carson and Mike Davis, they're not even using their

446
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Speaker 1: first round pick. Uh. You score thirty one points on

447
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Speaker 1: the Rams and you still find a way to lose

448
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Speaker 1: because of Carroll's defense. And and after the game, he

449
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Speaker 1: was furious about the d J. Fluker holding call. He

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Speaker 1: he wasn't willing to throw the officials under the bus,

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Speaker 1: just saying like that call to him changed the game

452
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Speaker 1: because if they had picked up a first down or

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Speaker 1: two at that point in the game under five minutes left,

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Speaker 1: like they had the rams and they've been moving the

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Speaker 1: ball and they couldn't get it done. I thought that

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Speaker 1: was I didn't think that was a bad call. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think he I thought he held held Sue pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: There there was a few calls they didn't call earlier

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Speaker 1: in the game. I mean, like you said that when

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Speaker 1: the Seattle was running the ball. They're completely different offense.

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Speaker 1: And then we got some big shots. I mean Wilson

462
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Speaker 1: only complete thirteen passes and most of them were way

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Speaker 1: down the field. I'm uh, Tyler Locket had three catches

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Speaker 1: for nine yards. I mean he was play action bomb

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Speaker 1: bombs away was the offensive game plan, and let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Want out got a touch starts press self where from

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Speaker 1: Bill Hill grow w d v E with the call.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown connected on two second half

469
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and the Steelers pulled away from the Falcons one

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Speaker 1: to seventeen. You thanks the Falcons. I thought by many

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Speaker 1: to be a serious NFC contender, including market I yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, why am I even picking teams to go

473
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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl at this point? I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've worked myself out of that equation. You should do

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Speaker 1: what I do. I just don't. Don't involve yourself with

476
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Speaker 1: those picks on the website anymore. Then you never look

477
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Speaker 1: bad that you take a great move with our website

478
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Speaker 1: in general. But I've got to do that at a

479
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Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit by a little bit, all

480
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Speaker 1: right there, one in four now in deep trouble. Kevin Patrick,

481
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about the Steelers after watching this rump? Well,

482
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Speaker 1: I think they boiled down to the run game in

483
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Speaker 1: the first half that kept him afloat until Antonio Brown

484
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Speaker 1: and Ben Roethlisberger figured out their connection. They those two

485
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Speaker 1: struggled in the first half. Ben was I think two

486
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Speaker 1: for eight targeting Antonio Brown in the first half of

487
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Speaker 1: fifteen yards and then the second half explosion. But the

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Speaker 1: key to the game to me was James Conner churning

489
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Speaker 1: out yards at a ridiculous rate hundred ten on twenty

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Speaker 1: one carries. He was the engine of the offense until

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Speaker 1: the passing game and then once the play action started

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Speaker 1: working in the second half in Antonio Brown, they could

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Speaker 1: take some shots deep, but in the first half it

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Speaker 1: was James Conner. I think he had touched the ball

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Speaker 1: seven of the first eight eight offensive plays as they drove.

496
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Speaker 1: The Steelers scored their first touch shot on the opening

497
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Speaker 1: drive of the year. They're kind of showing you what

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Speaker 1: they how much respect they have for Atlanta's defense at

499
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Speaker 1: this stage of the season when they roll in so

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Speaker 1: intentionally with Connor before even really unrated putting the passing

501
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Speaker 1: game out there. Connor has been a little hot and

502
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Speaker 1: cold this season, but this is another five total yards.

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Speaker 1: He helps them both in the receiving and the rushing game. West.

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Speaker 1: We know the report that came out last week about

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Speaker 1: left Bell. I mean, how do you think this is

506
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Speaker 1: this is gonna shake out? Because Connor is a player.

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Speaker 1: He's not left Bell, but he's a player. I honestly

508
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Speaker 1: have no idea. I mean, we can all guess, but

509
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're in that locker room, do you

510
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Speaker 1: want James Connor to be just a benched afterthought? As

511
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Speaker 1: soon as Levi I think he. I think he stays

512
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Speaker 1: as a pretty good part of the offense, and Levan

513
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Speaker 1: Bell kind of gets his cake and eats it too.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get too much wear and tear on his

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Speaker 1: body because James Connor is going to be taking some

516
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Speaker 1: of his snaps, and I don't think Bell would mind

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Speaker 1: that one bit. M and Connors. You're running back of

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Speaker 1: the future, That's all I'm cure, Marky Lucknet I didn't,

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Speaker 1: I would be I have a different look at my

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Speaker 1: face had I west West West five and oh there

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Speaker 1: you go. Great start to the season, thanks buddy. I

522
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Speaker 1: mean it feels ripe for a massive second half of

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Speaker 1: the year. Tumble typically work, so just you know, regression

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Speaker 1: to the mean hashtag stay humble. Some teams got some

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Speaker 1: teams going defeat it, he says, it's happened before. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that's in the range of possibilities. I think

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Speaker 1: that with the Steelers able to run the ball, they

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Speaker 1: put their their defense in a better spot. Today they

529
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Speaker 1: were they were getting huge amounts of pressure on Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: who would looked terrible today. U J J or yeah,

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Speaker 1: t J. Watt, I'm sorry. With three sacks that that

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Speaker 1: actually looked like three sacks, not like week one where

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Speaker 1: they were three accidental sacks. Uh. He caught him accidental.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about uh, but I'm just saying, like

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Speaker 1: this this week, they they've got loads of pressure on

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and he he kind of crumbled. He looked terriblely,

537
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Speaker 1: couldn't find a any receivers open at all. He was

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Speaker 1: thrown behind guys in the dirt. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: West put it well. On Friday, mentioned that he was

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Speaker 1: indoors for the last couple of weeks and he goes outdoors.

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Speaker 1: He looked like it looked like Week one. Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: out there. It's understandable why they're struggling. But this has

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Speaker 1: to be the most disappointing season for any team, is

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Speaker 1: there any And I know, I know, I know it's

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Speaker 1: week We're going into week six and mathematically almost anything

546
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Speaker 1: on the planet as possible. But at what point do

547
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: we look at the Falcons and say, I'm sorry, but

548
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Speaker 1: the formulas broken for this season, not on that defense

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago, thank you, it's been the same. Is terrible,

550
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Speaker 1: But when a couple of games all of a sudden,

551
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Speaker 1: you're probably and they just don't have to, probably not. Eric,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, um, and I know you're not. You're

553
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Speaker 1: not the electrician here, and I'm not feeling well, so

554
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Speaker 1: you just have to bear with me. This light that's

555
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: above Patra, it's flickering on and off. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm in a sauce equal. What do we have to

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Speaker 1: do here? What can we do? Um? You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Probably must not in the electricians union. That's

559
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Speaker 1: sort of out of my Who do we have to bury?

560
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Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying. Either some of the methods I

561
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Speaker 1: think that you know that George Bush, the second would

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Speaker 1: use to try to get information out of terrorists. So yeah,

563
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Speaker 1: we don't even know what the first was doing. So

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Speaker 1: this part of band's ongoing fight with the building manager.

565
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Oh that building manager, he's a punk. Alright, one more

566
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Speaker 1: game with Kevin Patrick and talk about your lines. Let's

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Speaker 1: do It's always fun. Let's go. Stafford's got the snakes, looks, looks, looks.

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Speaker 1: Rose end zone touchdown the truck Lions Market. Jes had

569
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Speaker 1: to layoff the holiday in and he did it. Dan

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Speaker 1: Miller w j R. With the call. Matthew Stafford through

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns the Garrett blunt ran for two. Where are

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Speaker 1: you being boy lifting the Detroit Lions? Soe win over

573
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Speaker 1: the Packers West. The Lions have added a roller coaster

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Speaker 1: first five weeks and this is their second win against

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Speaker 1: the premium opponent. Wait, the Packers are a premium opponent, right,

576
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: yeah they are? Okay, I was checking because I don't

577
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Speaker 1: know how good the Packers playing this year. They um

578
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: they were the more talented team. They racked up about

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Speaker 1: two sixty more yards than the Lions and still lost

580
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: because they had a team wide meltdown in the entire

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Speaker 1: first half. Mason Crosby missed three field goals, Aaron Rodgers

582
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Speaker 1: lost two fumbles. Uh, the rookie receivers couldn't separate it

583
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Speaker 1: from the Lions coverage. Uh, really bad punt sit suation

584
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Speaker 1: in which it hit. It may have hit the back

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Speaker 1: of Kevin King, Packers cornerback, and then recovered by the Lions,

586
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: like right at the goal line. It hit a lion first.

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00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: It looked like it hit a lion and not Kevin

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Speaker 1: King first. So it was an unfortunate thing for the Packers.

589
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: But it was just one of those first half where

590
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: any mistake that seemed like it could have been made.

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00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: The Packers made it. Patrack, Yeah, I I think the

592
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Speaker 1: lines loocked into another one here. This is I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that hasn't didn't trailed to Aaron

594
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Speaker 1: Rodgers or Tom Brady for one second of a game

595
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Speaker 1: of two games, but lost to the Jets, forty Niners,

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Speaker 1: and Cowboys. I mean, this is an eight and eight

597
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Speaker 1: team that that's probably gonna be six and ten at

598
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Speaker 1: the end of the year. So I thought that they

599
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: just got lucky with a lot. I was calling the

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was gonna come back this whole the whole

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Speaker 1: second half. I thought it was Lions fan, You're that's

602
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: sort of just in the blood stream at all times

603
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: for you. I mean, it should have happened. They were there,

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00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: We were right there to eight thirty in the morning

605
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Speaker 1: before the game even started. You're not gonna guess this

606
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Speaker 1: by looking at the box score, but I thought the

607
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: Lions receivers and cornerbacks outplayed the opposition um their counterparts

608
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Jimmy Graham whipped on a couple of

609
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Speaker 1: jump jump balls in the end zone. Davante Adams was

610
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Speaker 1: really the only wide receiver that impressed me in this game.

611
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Speaker 1: For for Detroit, for Green Bay and then Kenny Golladay

612
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: was a monster for the Lions. He had another forty

613
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Speaker 1: five yard touchdown that was nullified by a Frank Ragnow penalty.

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Speaker 1: He caught it go on for about a hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty and feel any one of their wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: Detroit could go off at any time. Not having a

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Speaker 1: good season, right, I'm I'm wondering if he makes like

618
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Speaker 1: a couple of great plays and misses a lot of gimmes,

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Speaker 1: like why is the offense for the line And I

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Speaker 1: know they won this game and they put up points,

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Speaker 1: but they don't even top three hundred yards. I kind

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Speaker 1: of I am not understand why their offense hasn't been

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Speaker 1: very good this season. The lines. Yeah, yeah, I I agree,

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Speaker 1: because they had the wide receivers to do it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Stafford hasn't played as well. Carry On Johnson left this game,

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Speaker 1: I think with an ankle injury, but said he was

627
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: all right after the game. Um, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Their offense should be better, and I think the fans

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Speaker 1: are starting to get upset with Cooter. Yeah. I'm one

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Speaker 1: question for Greg Blooms off the couter. Greg, you're very

631
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Speaker 1: into the happenings in the Desert Um the play call

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Speaker 1: man Dan Miller over under on Dan Miller's in the

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Speaker 1: United States. I'm putting it at I'll take the under. Well,

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Speaker 1: so Greg your answer, I guess where I mean. It

635
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Speaker 1: seems like there's no reference but according to well, according

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Speaker 1: to the Internet, who knows how accurate this is, but

637
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Speaker 1: there are four roughly forty eight thousand John Smith's. But

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the most cliche basic name in the game.

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Speaker 1: And Miller feels like, what's the original part of that name?

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Speaker 1: The first part of the last It's like, didn't but

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Speaker 1: you're a dance You got subtle shade against me. It's actually,

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Speaker 1: I honestly it's not thinking of your first name in this.

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Speaker 1: But um, we'll table that. Let's table that. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the kicker situation. Mason Crosby has been there forever

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, since two thousand seven, in fact, and

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Speaker 1: he's had a nice career. He's got a ring. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's got the trust of Aaron Rodgers. And the reason

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Speaker 1: you know that is because Aaron Rodgers spoke hi lee

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Speaker 1: of his kicker after you had one of the worst

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Speaker 1: games even by a season that has been at times

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Speaker 1: noted for a terrible kicker play one for five and

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Speaker 1: an extra pointment, So he misses four field goals and

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Speaker 1: an extra point in a in a game they lose

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Speaker 1: by eight points. Here's that Aaron Rodgers had to say

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Speaker 1: about his kicker after the game. I think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest kickers of all time. Um. I always

657
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: said him and Robbie Gould, what they do in the

658
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Speaker 1: elements over the years is is some of the finest

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Speaker 1: kicking that I've seen in my time. Um. Obviously he's disappointed.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he expected this. We have a ton

661
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Speaker 1: of faith in him. He's done it for a long time,

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00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: made some big kicks for us over the years. Um,

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Speaker 1: they got to clean the operation up, the snap hold

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Speaker 1: and then he's gotta make them. So that was a

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: major factor in this game as well. And some kickers

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Speaker 1: are gone. They hit the street after a game like that.

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00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like Crosby is gonna hang around. There's some

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Speaker 1: history here. In two thousand twelve he went through an

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Speaker 1: while and Mike McCarthy stayed with him. Uh, and then

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Speaker 1: he got a contract restruct or a contract, new contracts

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00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: shortly after that. So yeah, they can. They love Mason Cross.

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Speaker 1: I think him mentioning Robbie Gold is instructive there as well,

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Speaker 1: because Robbie went through had one bad year in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: they cut him loose and then he's been great. Ever said,

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: so they can, that's instructive. They can just keep, you know,

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Speaker 1: sticking with this McCarthy Mason Crosby combo on the way

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Speaker 1: to another first round exit. I mean, I knew this

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Speaker 1: was coming. How does Crosby get swept up in that?

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, thank you, thank joining us. Uh, it's great

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Speaker 1: to be You've said it all, you did it all.

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Speaker 1: I've done everything I can do and more than congratulations

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Speaker 1: again on being a husband and soon the father and

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Speaker 1: your team winning. Are you Are you announcing information to

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Speaker 1: me that I am not aware of? Wo? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, did you know that? Or I have

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Speaker 1: nothing to say at this point beyond whatever already said.

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Speaker 1: I hope you haven't triple sourced it because they're not

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Speaker 1: water on his laptop. I saw it best, grug ros

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Speaker 1: and tall. That was a water spill. West turn it off.

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Speaker 1: As long as possible, head straight to turn it off.

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Speaker 1: Hold the button, now you hold the button. Oh this

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Speaker 1: is so big, this is so big. What's about to happen?

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Speaker 1: Like putting your phone in a bag of rice. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's off. Now keep it off for as long as

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Speaker 1: you can. Now, throw the laptop directly in the garbage camp.

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Speaker 1: That is step two. Do what Greg does and get

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Speaker 1: a new computer by morning. I haven't had a new

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Speaker 1: computer in years. Let's let's let's take let's take your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this, walk us through where you're thinking right now,

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Speaker 1: because obviously this is on you directly. I saw with

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Speaker 1: Patrick's laptop. Your thoughts. It was bonehead and mistake by me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the water behind my laptop, and I

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Speaker 1: You've lost several laptops in your career to water spills.

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking right now? Is it good just

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Speaker 1: and Eugene Robinson. Jim is okay with the call w

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Speaker 1: York Giants. The Carolina Panthers win thirty three thirty one

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Speaker 1: comeback by the Giants, who trailed fourteen points in the

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Speaker 1: second half. Wipe that away, took the lead, but still

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Speaker 1: went down because you know, drilled it hit the net people. Greg,

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Speaker 1: Can we start by killing Caroline as clock management before

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Speaker 1: the miracle? Yeah? I don't. I don't think the results

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Speaker 1: coaching staff too, and the Panthers completely botched the end

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00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: of the game situation they had thirty seconds to work

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Speaker 1: with and then they end up kicking a sixty three

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Speaker 1: yard field goal. But when you got a kicker like

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Speaker 1: in the end, Ron Rivera was saved also by his

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Speaker 1: own riverboat, Ron uh Moniker and that sort of attitude.

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Speaker 1: A fourth and one call with about three twenty two

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Speaker 1: by both, but cam Newton was ultimately better at the

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Speaker 1: then Christian McCaffrey to set up the game winner, Dan

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Speaker 1: and I went down to the lab and indulged in

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Speaker 1: a little kicker talk this after that, it's quite fun.

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Speaker 1: We've decided that Graham Gano is number two in our

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Speaker 1: confidence ranking, right behind I mean Justin Tucker, obviously the

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Speaker 1: best kicker in the NFL. But if you've got the

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Speaker 1: game on the line, Graham Gonos the second guy. But

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Speaker 1: that's the guy. It's it's a bit of a drop

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Speaker 1: off for me, but it's still it's a huge drop

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with the silver Mini. You get past

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Speaker 1: number five in this list, and the drop off to

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Speaker 1: just a bunch of average jabrones is quite steep. This

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00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: was such a awful loss for the Giants, who ended

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Speaker 1: that infernal us UH streak of not scoring thirty points,

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Speaker 1: and they did it with a comeback. They did it

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Speaker 1: by and in a week after Odell Beckham ran his

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Speaker 1: mouth and and UH led to more headlines UH saying

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Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of things. I find it interesting

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Speaker 1: that the Giants, you know, he is that team and

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Speaker 1: they are they are completely in deference to him at

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Speaker 1: all times. I found it interesting that the game after

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Speaker 1: he mouths off UH, not only does he get targeted

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Speaker 1: a ton, which he should because he's Odell Beckham, but

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: they also run a trick play that leads to him

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Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown. Uh, and he made he made the

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Speaker 1: throw and he can give that to him as well.

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Speaker 1: But like he is, it seems like it's almost like

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Speaker 1: they're held hostage by Beckham on some level. Um And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to kill him for it, because I

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Speaker 1: understand that he's speaking from frustration, but you get the

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Speaker 1: feeling they're scared to him a little bit. I it

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Speaker 1: almost feels like Pat Schermer being brought into New York.

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Speaker 1: What part of the Big Responsibility was a course correction

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Speaker 1: from last year's apocalyptic pr disaster where the Eli Benching

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Speaker 1: combined with all the Odell Beckham issues together made it

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Speaker 1: one of the more inglorious Giant seasons of our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: And Scherer comes in exactly. Schermer comes in, and it's

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Speaker 1: very deferential Odell Beckham, although I do like him sticking

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Speaker 1: up for his player not letting the media do more

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Speaker 1: with that. But then the Eli Manning side of it too.

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Speaker 1: It's like these are sort of some of the issues

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Speaker 1: It's the quarterback and it has been for over two years,

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Speaker 1: and they messed up. McAdoo was the first one to

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Speaker 1: finally admit the quarterbacks the problem, and he called a

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Speaker 1: PR nightmare, but only because the Giants let the media

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00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: dictate the story. And it was a PR nightmare because

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00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: that city is different than any other. But it was

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Speaker 1: too long coming to make. And this is a game

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Speaker 1: where Eli man And hit some throws, certainly in the

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Speaker 1: second half of this game, but he also had two

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Speaker 1: ugly interceptions, so did Cam Newton for that matter, but

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Speaker 1: two really bad ones by Eli Manning in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter before they end up going on this comeback run.

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Speaker 1: I I don't mind that they targeted Odell Beckham fourteen times,

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Speaker 1: like that's what Antonio Brown got this weekend. That's that's

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Speaker 1: like the history of great receivers throughout history. Yeah, you complain,

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Speaker 1: and the offense did their job. Ultimately, the defense had

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Speaker 1: about four different chances to get a stop against the

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Speaker 1: Panthers and they couldn't. At the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: and before I know, the rootless room enjoys kicking Eli

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Speaker 1: while he's down. I just wanna I just want to

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Speaker 1: add also before you say they blew it, go watch

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Speaker 1: what Saclan market who did in this game. And maybe, yes,

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Speaker 1: maybe they should have dres after the quarterback this year,

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Speaker 1: and and they went with the kid. But that guy,

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Speaker 1: he has a transformative effect on that offense. And the

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Speaker 1: led him down, and you know, you gotta give him

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that was a bad draft pick

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Speaker 1: by them. I agree that he's special and the criticism

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Speaker 1: of him through the first five weeks of the season

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00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: have been head scratching. Just like, watch the guy play, right,

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Speaker 1: he he's great, But it was still a bad pick

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Speaker 1: because you could have taken a quarterback. We don't need

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Speaker 1: to relitigate that every week. But you can point out

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Speaker 1: that the running game is not good. So that's like

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Speaker 1: a that's like a big factor. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: is because sa Kuon Barkley is getting negative run after

851
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: negative run. That's largely the offensive line. He had a

852
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: thirty yard run in this game. His other fourteen runs

853
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: one for sixteen yards, So you're in a lot of

854
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: long yardage situations where you throw the ball the sea

855
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: kuon Barkley and that works out. But the running game

856
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: is not any better really this year than it was

857
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: a year. But I think it's not far from Ezekiel

858
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Elliott through the air. But that was the knock on

859
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Barkley coming into the NFL was that you're gonna get

860
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: that special long run that changes the game, but then

861
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a cluster of short yardage fronts too.

862
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: And I don't want to talk and circles about the

863
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: Eli situation, but it's like you can't let the running

864
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: back off the hook. Is the offensive line sucks, but

865
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: then kill the quarterback. And I think it was a

866
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: terrible pick and and the Panthers have found we should

867
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: give him some credit. They found different ways to win.

868
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what this Panther's team is yet.

869
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: They haven't been dominant on offense, but they're three and one.

870
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: Oho oh Mark, I am not three and one in

871
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: the locks, but I have gained another win well by

872
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: correctly diagnosing this affair. Do you guys want to see here?

873
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: The Spanish language call it was fun, Dan Miller, Graham

874
00:43:48,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: Gonno with a Spanish language call god log dog dog

875
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: by the way, no different on the call the overthrow

876
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Coudeta Bolivia. But he take note, Whites next snap is good,

877
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: the hold is down House He's got plenty of lagging

878
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: is up and it is. It is good and the

879
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills win it. They knock off the Tennessee Titans.

880
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Stephen has a forty six yarder. The Bills win it

881
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: thirteen to twelve. House money indeed, Wow, John Murpy Good

882
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: calls today Mark that one's w g R. Stephen Housegate

883
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: had a forty six yarders time expired. The Bills a

884
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: thirteen twelve upset win over the Titans. On Sunday, Mark,

885
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: the Bills have now sandwiched to shut out loss to

886
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: the path with big winds over the Vikings and Titans.

887
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: Sorry the Titoons. Yeah, it's an example that for a

888
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: big chunk of teams in this league. Whoever, we're super

889
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: excited about tonight, fast forward seven days from now, and

890
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna be thinking completely different because what Tennessee did

891
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, for me, took them to a whole

892
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: new level in terms of how I saw that team

893
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: and what's going on. I don't think that's necessarily untrue,

894
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: but it's the example of Oh, here come the Bills,

895
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: and that little mysterious win over the Vikings had nothing

896
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: to do with their team or this football season except

897
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: that Jerry Hughes and this defensive front seven absolutely dominated

898
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: the Titans during large sections of today's games. So in

899
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: many ways, it was like that Vikings win, and it's

900
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: this defense in Buffalo is if you're gonna wal roll

901
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: in there, it's you're going to have to deal with

902
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: this because your your quarterback. Josh Allen through for eighty

903
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: two yards, had a wonderful scramble for a touchdown that

904
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: only Josh Allen can kind of do. But their's offense

905
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: is outside of I thought the one uptick for Buffalo

906
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: that helped him down the stretch and helped create this

907
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: win was that we finally saw Leshawn McCoy but also

908
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory. And it's not the most mind blowing box score,

909
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: but they had a couple of big runs that moved

910
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: the sticks and sealed this victory down the stretch from

911
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: a Titans team that could not get out of its

912
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: own way. Like the past three years of this podcast,

913
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: has been us occasionally getting excited about the Titans and

914
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: then Dan being undefeated in his skepticism of them coming

915
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: off a big win. Show it to me for like

916
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: two or three straight weeks and they never do it.

917
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: Spelled dangerous this game. We talked about it as a

918
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: trap game on Thursday. They got another big game coming

919
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: up next week, and they this is you can't if

920
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: you want to be taken seriously in the a f C.

921
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: You don't go to a C. You don't go to

922
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo and scored twelve points and lose. It's a different

923
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: receiver every week drops a perfect pass from Mariota that

924
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: could change the game. Nick Williams did it today on

925
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: the goal line, a deep throw that probably would have

926
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: put this game out of reach just the way the

927
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: offenses were, but he he dropped it and they and

928
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: they're just one of those teams. I think I counted,

929
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: depending on what happens Sunday night, more than half of

930
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: the league is going to have two or three losses.

931
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: So it's like there's nineteen teams in the league, eighteen

932
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: nineteen depending on how it because that it's like it

933
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: depends on how you want to look at it. They're

934
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: just in this big fat middle where there's been some good.

935
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: It's like the Packers, the entire NFC North, other than

936
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: the Bears, the entire a f C East. It depends

937
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: on how you want to look at them. It's depending

938
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: on the week. They could be oh in five right

939
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: now or or five and now it's ridiculous. I do

940
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: like the Bills defense. I think that like they're not

941
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: they're not complete. They're not entire complete, but they're every

942
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: one week. I don't know, you know, it's hard to

943
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: diagnose them. Also, but if you thought five weeks in

944
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: that they would have dominated the Titans and Vikings, you'd

945
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: say this is not it's been the Packers. Really, they've

946
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: played well three straight weeks. They didn't start out the

947
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: season yours. That's about as in today's NFL. Anytime you

948
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: can hold a team to twenty two point, especially when

949
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: you have no offense, I'm just saying they're competitive. They

950
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: him the twenty two points because the Packers receivers dropped

951
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: deep balls that would have given him like thirty five points.

952
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: Quick aside, Greg has nothing to do with this game,

953
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: but an update on a comment by James lofton that

954
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: caught your ear and certainly caught mine today. Yeah, do

955
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: we have a clip? I don't know. I don't think so.

956
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to help me out here.

957
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Actually was about a show or a movie or something.

958
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: James Lofton. I live in a perpetual present, and after

959
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: that it's all just to the wind. James Lofton said

960
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: on the airwaves today broadcasting that he, uh, he is,

961
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: watched the pilot for Godfriend, not once, but twice. Yeah, yeah,

962
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: that's right. I should have remembered that that was memorable

963
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: part of this game. Uh that Well, James Lofton wasn't

964
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: doing this game. I don't know they he said he

965
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: was in the He was in the hotel, I believe,

966
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and they were showing a replay, so he had saw

967
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: it the first time around. He's in the hotel Saturday,

968
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: just killing time. You gotta watch God Friend and me

969
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: again saw that pilot a second. What is God Friend

970
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: of Me? It's a high concept comedy on CBS is

971
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: a primetime block this season about a man who starts

972
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: getting uh friend, gets friend requested by God himself. Seems believable,

973
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: and then um, I believe, starts getting friend requests from

974
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: other people that need his help. Sounds like willing suspension

975
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: of disbelief might be an issue for this show. There's

976
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: been a hole for me ever since Scorpion went off

977
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: the air, and I think God friend of me's got

978
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: a shot and James Lofton is opening the door for

979
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: me to walk on throw. I cannot think of There

980
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: are ten thousand other things I will do before tracking

981
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: this television show. So a deity sent this man a

982
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: friend request h yeah, God himself. People get paid to

983
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: come up with these concepts. Let's move on getting paid

984
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot. Who this is to win it? Snap his back,

985
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: fall down and kick on the way line drive. The

986
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: kick is good with two suckers locked it over time

987
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: up up water a line drive that almost said you

988
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: paid on it as they went over the crossbar and

989
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: the Proms bent the Ravens over time twelve to nine.

990
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: The officials are telling the players to get off the field.

991
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I think the Ravens were offside too.

992
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: That is the bold game. Don't rain on my parade,

993
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Doug Jacon, God's a Brown fan, folks. Jim Donovan w

994
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: k r K with the call. Greg's Joseph the rookie kicker,

995
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: thirty seven yard field goal that kind of knuckled just

996
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: over the crossbar. It was tipped right now, how could that?

997
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: I'll be timped. It had to be anyway, it went

998
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: over and it gave the Browns a twelve nine win

999
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: over the Ravens. Greg This was the Brown's first win

1000
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: on a Sunday in years. It wasn't pretty, but they

1001
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: proved once again that no matter the opponent, they will

1002
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: compete and sometimes sometimes yes they'll win. Yeah, against the

1003
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: team that looked about as good as any team in

1004
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: the a f C going into this week. I am

1005
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: just taken by their two draft picks. You know, you

1006
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: have two picks in the top five. They've blown so

1007
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: many draft picks over the years, and they won this

1008
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: game because Baker Mayfield was able to withstand a ton

1009
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: of pressure from the Ravens and kept throwing. Wasn't all perfect,

1010
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: but a lot of the things he does are just

1011
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: like next level. The good plays that he makes are

1012
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: so good that you really start believing. And the way

1013
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: that he competed throughout the game despite all that pressure.

1014
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: And then Denzel Ward, who a lot of people really

1015
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: picked on and has been in the right place at

1016
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: the right time sometimes, but had a great interception on

1017
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: the goal line, blocked a field goal, and then had

1018
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: some key pass deflections and did a great job in

1019
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: coverage against Michael Crabtree for the most part. And Crabtree

1020
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: had at a disastrous game for for the Ravens. And

1021
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: you just see the future here for the Browns two

1022
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: two and one and they could be five. And oh

1023
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: that Ward pick. I'll never forget because this happened so

1024
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: often with any team that struggles, and people have these

1025
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: You conceive notions about the front office being a total

1026
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: disaster when they passed on Bradley Chubb for Denzel Ward.

1027
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: In our newsroom, this collective sigh of groans, as if

1028
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: some as if instead of journalists and writers and reporters

1029
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: and a bunch of television people, the room is actually

1030
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: filled with two hundred actual NFL scouts that know anything

1031
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: at all. And you find out that instead they pick

1032
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: someone who fits perfectly into the defense and has been

1033
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: a difference maker in every single game form. He also

1034
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: blocked a kick himself today that that was a game

1035
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: changing turn of events for second block kick for Justin Tucker.

1036
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: You boy in yeah, in in defense of the newsroom.

1037
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: In the past ten years, every time the Browns have

1038
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: done something unconventional it was the wrong move, they will

1039
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: They're constantly, constantly defense of themselves. So they that's that's enough.

1040
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that is they they earned that reputation. But

1041
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing now is they're they're making picks that

1042
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: don't go the wrong way. And you look at their

1043
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: number one pick last year, Myles Garrett, and you look

1044
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: at Denzel Ward, and you look at Baker Mayfield. No

1045
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: longer will people just assumed they're blowing it. They just

1046
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: need to hit on a couple of these, and that's

1047
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: what they're starting to do. It looks like they transformed

1048
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: the franchise with those two picks, and the Browns went

1049
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: from being in the first week or two, in my mind,

1050
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: one of the least watchable teams. Too. Now I'll probably

1051
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: go home and immediately put on this game on game

1052
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: pass because I want to see what Baker Mayfield does.

1053
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: Certainly wasn't you know, the most entertaining throughout Obviously, you know,

1054
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: twelve to nine kind of speaks for itself. But the

1055
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: way that their defense has competed week after week, and

1056
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: I know last week wasn't wasn't their best week, but

1057
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: for the most part, Greg Williams is getting good play

1058
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: out of a lot of different players. Jamie Collins had

1059
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: a big day today. I thought Jabrill Peppers made a difference.

1060
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: And there were about four different times the Ravens had

1061
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: a chance to go win the game. They had the

1062
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: ball in a good spot and you figured that's where

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00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: the Browns were gonna lose, and for the most part

1064
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: they punted. Michael Crabtree essentially dropped the throw that was

1065
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: a little too hot and a little too high from

1066
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco that would have won the game for the

1067
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: Ravens that had so the Browns got a little four

1068
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: and it I feel like the Browns have been a

1069
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: little unlucky on some of their losses. This one they

1070
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: maybe got a little lucky and it all evens out.

1071
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: They're probably where they should be there at two two

1072
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: and one team. I wouldn't be concerned if for Baltimore

1073
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: side of it, their own defense, which I think came

1074
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: into the game allowing like two point three points per

1075
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: game in the second half, nearly did the same today.

1076
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: And they are completely one of the better defenses in

1077
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: the a f C. That's three overtime games for the

1078
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: Browns in the first five weeks. It has been a

1079
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: roller coaster, but you're getting dubs. Mark, you got two

1080
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: dubs now. I think if you come if you looked

1081
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year and said you're two

1082
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: two and one, you couldn't have asked for anything more

1083
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: for a team that had no idea how to win

1084
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: a game. I was a little bit nervous. You're tied

1085
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: with the Steelers too, and you're in Bayfield's delivered those

1086
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: two wins. I was a little bit nervous, Mark when

1087
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: you were watching the game, and I was thinking about

1088
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: if they if they don't win this game, how will

1089
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: the podcast go today? So on that left, I mean,

1090
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: don't I have practice of attempting to do a somewhat

1091
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: uh you know, put together show amidst defeats. I think

1092
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: there's a big track gret attached. I'm just saying the

1093
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: show is better in fact sometimes though I know, but

1094
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: it's like listen, I mean, I don't know what to

1095
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: make of this either. It's all bizarre. There's a lot

1096
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: of like by the Mark somehow annoyed by that uh,

1097
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: I want to ask, there's been a lot of kicker talk. Yeah,

1098
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: a lot always should important important musician. Could the Browns

1099
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: be the rare team with a little foresight to cut

1100
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: a kicker after a game winning field goal, because, let's

1101
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: face it, I guess my question would be the kick

1102
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: was terrible. He missed after and not talking about you're

1103
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: not talking about the coaching sty have to do something

1104
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: like that. But who, by the way, and this could

1105
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: be wrong, but he was bad after he hits the field.

1106
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: Need a game manager, you know, they need to bring

1107
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: back Sashi to do to be a special game management

1108
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: consult After hits the field goal, he was holding up

1109
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: two seconds letting everyone know that the overtime is not

1110
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: over yet. It's like the game's over. Yeah, no, it's

1111
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: it's that's not been in Cleveland anywhere close to his skill.

1112
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Good Win, Mark Karl has room,

1113
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: nice cut back. Crow Well Trowel chewing up yards down

1114
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: the sunline. Isaiah Trowell tucksdown Jets seventies seven yards. Oh yeah,

1115
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: I ain't. Eagle and Dan Fouts, who, by the way,

1116
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: I have to say, quite enjoyed their work today and

1117
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: in general, The Bird and the Beard are one of

1118
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: the best play by players been celebrated both in the

1119
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: studio and out on the town by some of them

1120
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: do not bad mouth Iron Eagle in front of Mark Seslick.

1121
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: Isaiah Crowell, the former Brown and Um male booty wipe

1122
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: spokesman brand for a franchise record two nineteen yards and

1123
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: what including that seventy seven yard touchdown and Sam Donald

1124
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes to Robby Anderson, including a seventy

1125
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: six yard or He threw three touchdowns overall. The Jets

1126
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: snap at three game losing streak sixteen win over the

1127
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: Broncos on Sunday. Um talked about it in the preview show.

1128
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: Needed to see something from the Jets, needed to see

1129
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: something from Jeremy Bates, the offensive coordinator, and most importantly,

1130
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: you needed to see something from Sam Donald. And uh,

1131
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: that's definitely what you got here. Uh A really a

1132
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: really promising effort from Donald, who again looked like a

1133
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: guy that was poised and can make throws. The second

1134
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: touchdown pass uh to Anderson was right before the half.

1135
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, when you fire up your game pass, you're

1136
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna say to yourself, that was one of the prettiest

1137
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: throws of the this week. Oh yeah, I can't wait,

1138
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: and uh and and my other takeaway from this game, gentleman,

1139
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: is so nice win for the Jets. They kind of

1140
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: put out the fire and get to hit reset on

1141
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: this and then the schedule is a little forgiving for them,

1142
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: so they got a chance to stay in contention here.

1143
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: But on the Bronco side of it, you know, rest

1144
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: in peace, no fly zone, rest in peace. Whatever whatever

1145
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: um uh ideas you had about this being a defense

1146
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: that could win a Super Bowl or be get even

1147
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: close to the Super Bowl fifty defense, This was an

1148
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: embarrassment for Advance Joseph, for John Elway, for von Miller,

1149
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: who was held without a sack of the third straight game,

1150
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: to for everyone on that field. When you let the Jets,

1151
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: a team that had scored forty one points in the

1152
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: previous thirteen quarters, roll up over five hundred yards on you,

1153
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: when you let Isaiah Crowell dropped a deuce on you, well,

1154
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: no poor choice of wording, but two hundred yards, when

1155
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: you let he even had another guy, Yeah he needs

1156
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: that daddy ways, Billy Powell went for a hundred and

1157
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: then he got pulled back and went finished with I mean,

1158
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: this was a abhorrent effort on defense. Where do you

1159
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: go from here? Because his Kingdom's not bailing you out.

1160
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Name a more disappointing unit in the NFL than the

1161
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: Broncos defense this year, and that means that's Van Joseph.

1162
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph Special. But he's his butt's gotta be hot, right.

1163
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: I feel like Todd Bowls passed the hotton onto Vance

1164
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Joseph at the end of this game. So now you

1165
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: takes a like to do it. Yeah and and uh

1166
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: and yeah. He's like, I'm sorry, but they both happen here.

1167
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: John Way admitted basically to you know, considering firing Vance

1168
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: Joseph at after at the end of last season they

1169
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: hammed in hot before announcing that he was returning. So

1170
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: there was a thought there. And this this quote from

1171
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe, who is a leader on that defense, would

1172
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: concern me if I'm Vance Joseph said, we tried three

1173
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: group this week. We tried, we had great energy and practice,

1174
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: great energy, started the game hot. Something something much deeper

1175
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: is happening here that I can't even really understand well,

1176
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: and you even know what that means. Well, you're pointing,

1177
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: You're pointing up Buffalo Springfield on us. Nothing's happening here.

1178
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: Something's happening. What it isn't exactly clear. Like I'll often

1179
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: critique our company with a vague comment like that, and

1180
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: it's always pointing upward at management figures. You know, but

1181
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: a weird on your radar. Dets are having a weird season.

1182
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: It was for three yards out of nowhere, very strange season. Correll,

1183
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: who's a nice player, Um, he'll do this, not this,

1184
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: but he'll do this version of I mean twice. It's

1185
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: I can't figure that guy out. Fifteen for two ten.

1186
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: He runs for, he runs hard, and he even shuts

1187
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: up speed. I don't think Carol is a great player.

1188
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a little bit perplexed by how incredibly

1189
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: looked in this game. But you cannot say enough of

1190
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: how poorly Denver played in case Keenum. His numbers look

1191
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: a lot better than he played as well. Uh, this

1192
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: team just has issues. The Broncos could be in a

1193
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: little bit of trouble. Let's move on. Here comes the Blitz,

1194
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: Rivers bumbles, the Snam gets how quick to Heckler he's

1195
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: at the cuts inside forty thirty five thirty Ackler work

1196
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: on the left side line of the insol touch stops

1197
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: shogers O. Matt money Smith, the voice of the Around

1198
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast with the call for kf I. Austin

1199
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: Ekeler may just one catch on Sunday. He made it

1200
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: count forty four yards catch and run put the Chargers

1201
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: ahead for good and win over the hapless Raiders West.

1202
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: This is a home game and name only for the Chargers,

1203
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: who had to contend with thousands of silver and black

1204
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: supporters storming the stub Hub Center. But this bad Raiders

1205
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: team needs a lot more than loud fans. This was

1206
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: not an even matchup. The Chargers are just, to me,

1207
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: a much better team with a much more reliable offense

1208
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: and a quarterback who has been on fire this year,

1209
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: and nobody's really paying attention. And you can count on

1210
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: Ekeler and Melvin Gordon going for two and two TVs

1211
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: just about every single week on Pace right now, at

1212
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: least going into the week to top, mark Ingram and

1213
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara as the most they're still on of any

1214
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: dou however, and a lot of that is through the

1215
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: air waves, and I think Philip Rivers you know, he's

1216
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: down a couple of receivers. Travis Benjamin's gone right now,

1217
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry's gone. They stayed through the air waves. Yeah

1218
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: he uh, you know, he's like an old guy with

1219
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the antenna on his TV, the airwaves.

1220
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Mart Tavis Bryant leaves Raiders with yards also had another

1221
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: backbreaking mistake. This guy is a mistake waiting to happen

1222
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: every single week. He had a fumble that really it

1223
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: was a big play in this game. And Derek Carr

1224
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: had another backbreaking interception in the red zone. He's playing

1225
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: right now with two rookies tackles too, and it's not

1226
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: it's not great for him. Well, they there's there's Raiders

1227
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: fans sending out this stat of what they what they've

1228
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: done when they're at fourth and when they're at the

1229
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: one yard line, than they don't hand it to Marshawn Lynch,

1230
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: like this is the second turnover, I believe. And then

1231
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: they had another failed play where they went to a

1232
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: full back this year. You know, when they're on the

1233
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: goal line, they tried to throw the ball on first

1234
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: and goal and that's just a killer first thing goal.

1235
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch is running like he's twenty six years old,

1236
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: and you do a play action pass with a mistake

1237
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: prone quarterback and the throw was just miserable as well,

1238
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: it makes off by a linebacker. It makes what Oakland

1239
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: did last week even more mysterious because one thing I

1240
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: kept hearing because I was I had tracking a different

1241
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: game that they just looked so unprepared as a complete

1242
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: overall team, which we just talked about another one in

1243
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: the a f C West that's the same way. But

1244
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: Gruden is apparently on this ten year thing where he

1245
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. I see it's a talent deficient

1246
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: team as well, but yeah, it just seems like that.

1247
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: Well he also ships some of the talent out of

1248
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: the building. But fair enough. How about the Chargers getting

1249
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: about five hundred in October. You know, it's been about

1250
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: four year, four or five years since they've had anything

1251
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: resembling a halfway. I mean, we're calling them the most talent.

1252
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, a f C, so thank you for

1253
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: getting there, right. They've been fighting good about your Charges.

1254
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: They've been playing from behind every season. You know, fighting

1255
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: uphill three and two is about as good as it

1256
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: gets for them. Just when you think you're feeling good

1257
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: about him, Calebs, Caleb Star just missed another kick in.

1258
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: Let's not hand out any lollipops yet. Let's go to

1259
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland next week and win a game, win a football game.

1260
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: Let's throw like a good month together and went fourth straight.

1261
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: About after you beat the Browns, you come home and

1262
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: you got the Titans. Don't have your special teams be

1263
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: at debacle and have on. Have your fans actually feel

1264
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: old that building with the type I like their chances

1265
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: better when they're on the road. How about going to Seattle, then,

1266
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom whatever it used to be gone, go

1267
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: in another ball game, get the six and two. Greg Man, Okay,

1268
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: come down alight, thanks responsible for the Chargers. Now Rosen

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Speaker 1: under center, barking out the call, takes its play action.

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Speaker 1: Rosen setting up with time, looks deep, fires deep, got

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Speaker 1: a man white open inside the thirties, caught by Kirk

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01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: at the twenty. At the Tad touchdown. Josh Rosen with

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Speaker 1: a strike caught by Kirk, rookie to rookie Dave passed

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Speaker 1: k t a are what they called Josh Rosen seventy

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Speaker 1: five yards to Kristen Kirk on the Cardinals first play

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Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Cardinals used five takeaways to finally get a win,

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Speaker 1: the last NFL team uh to get out of the

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Speaker 1: windless column. They beat the Niners to eighteen. Mark Seessler, Yes,

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Speaker 1: tell us more about this incredible affair. UM A tough

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Speaker 1: watch to the point where I don't think any Cardinals

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Speaker 1: fan would would disagree. Right, people Cardinals fans tweeting me

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Speaker 1: saying I have been a lifelong Cardinals fan. This is

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: a this team. I struggle to enjoy what's happening here,

1284
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: but you do. I do think you saw a couple

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01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: throws by Josh Rosen where you see how incredibly accurate

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01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: can be with he The touchdown throw is beautiful. He

1287
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: also is dealing with a lot of drops. This offense

1288
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: is out of sync. They still don't quite have the

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01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: David Johnson experience of years passed. Nothing close, And this game,

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01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: to me was Chandler Jones on defense dominating. Could be

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01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: any more dominant. That's how dominant he was. He was great?

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Speaker 1: Is that I don't. I don't. I'm not a complete

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Speaker 1: ast of that show where you pulling the quote from

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Speaker 1: I don't know this Niners team. I feel for them.

1295
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: Because they're so banged up. Like Breeda goes out, Matt

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01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: Breeda goes out, and right away Wheheem Monster comes in, fumbles,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson picks up the ball, runs forty three yards

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01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: with it, David Johnson scores after, and you just can't

1299
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: really figure out how the Niners gonna climb back in.

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01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: It's it's a offense that runs through Kyle Yustcheck and

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Speaker 1: George Kittle. I love I'd love Kittle, but like George,

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Speaker 1: but there's just not any much else going on. And

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01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: yet they dominated the game and blew it because they

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01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: turned the ball over five times they had I don't

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01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: feel they dominated this game. They had thirty three first

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01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: downs to ten. It just doesn't. I'm just saying, look

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Speaker 1: that way that when you watch this, But I I

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: it was just two teams that to me feel like

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01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: they're going through the motion. I'm saying a team won

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Speaker 1: a game with ten first downs. That's tough to do,

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Speaker 1: you I bet I would love research to look up

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Speaker 1: how many teams have had thirty first downs and over

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01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: ninety plays and lost the game like that. It's hard

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01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: to do. They had ninety two plays and at this

1315
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, Shanahan was absolutely fuming after halftime.

1316
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't have been less happy with his offense.

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that quite plays out to the number.

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Speaker 1: You turn the ball over five times, you don't get

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Speaker 1: a turn where it's gonna be tough stuff to win

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Speaker 1: throw to Sunday Night Football. But before we do, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna head out. Well, I'm gonna head out. I'm not

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Speaker 1: this time where they're people are testing them. Once you

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Speaker 1: say we'll give you maybe fifty grand two turncoat here? Absolutely, okay,

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Speaker 1: I will join that fight all right now, Uh see later, guys.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back with the rest of you for the

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Speaker 1: But I have to get home and recuper rate. Not

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Speaker 1: feeling well, Let's get Let's get to Sunday night football.

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Speaker 1: Wats and throws caught as his Hopkins into Dallas territory. Honestly,

1379
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: looking at that is unbelievable, Larry Fitzgerald, like in the

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: clocks when it matters posts, making brilliant catches and an

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: even better run. DeAndre Hopkins with the forty nine yard

1382
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: catch and run, one of the plays of the year

1383
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: to help the Texans take the win over the Cowboys

1384
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: nineteen to sixteen. Set up a thirty six yard field

1385
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: goal by Kim A fair Barn. What a name? What

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: a name is that? Right in the Battle in the

1387
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: Battle of Texas. Like I don't know if you guys

1388
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: heard this game was played in Texas. We were also

1389
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: impressed with that play. It might have been like the

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01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: best reaction we've ever had during a Sunday night football

1391
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: game in the studio, I think, uh, DeAndre Hopkins is

1392
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: basically like I have dinner reservations for fourteen in forty

1393
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: one minutes, we're getting out of here, and he just

1394
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: rumbled down the field, and this is a guy that

1395
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: also knocked down the ball in the end zone on

1396
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's last ditch hell Mary attempt in regulation. I mean,

1397
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: it showed out everything Hopkins is great at just plucking

1398
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: the ball out of the sky. Two of the best

1399
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: hands in the in the league. And we were talking

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: West about how, yeah, he's been your guy, DeAndre Hopkins

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: for a long time, and at this point it's like

1402
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: you don't really even talk about him that much because

1403
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: everyone knows DeAndre Hopkins is great. But it's still nice

1404
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: to see a game like this on national television and

1405
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: remind everyone. I'm disappointed that none of us have made

1406
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: the Larry Fitzgerald comparison before Collinsworth did, because the vice

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01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: gript hands, the physicality, the acrobaticism to make plays on

1408
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: the sideline and in the end zone and then that

1409
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: won't be denied. Play looks like Larry Fitzgerald's playoff run,

1410
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: you know that legendary playoff run. I mean, this guy Hopkins,

1411
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: that's an all Pro play because he's an all Pro player.

1412
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: By one concern with this game and just sort of

1413
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: the blueprint of what the Texans seemed to be I

1414
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: thought they sort of woke up from their season long

1415
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: sleep against the Cults last week, and we saw some

1416
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: of that continue tonight. But I Deshaun Watson, who was

1417
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: it appeared banged up late in this game and was

1418
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: being looked at on the sideline. There's still just too

1419
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: many plays where he's being exposed to not just a

1420
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: hit from one guy, but two or three guys slamming

1421
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: them at this from different directions at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know, like, yeah, it seems a

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Speaker 1: little unsustainable to me. Some of that's on him, most

1424
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: of it's on the offensive line, some of it's on

1425
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: the coaching staff for putting him in harm's way. Five

1426
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: times they got inside the five in tonight's game, and

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01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: only one of those did they score a touchdown, which

1428
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: is preposterous. So they should have won this game well

1429
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: before overtime. And and as tough as that was to

1430
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: watch them getting hit though, you also think, like this

1431
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: is why you love Deshaun Watson. Are games like the

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01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: last two weeks. That's sort of toughness and the ability

1433
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: to make the plays at the end of the game

1434
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: when they needed it. They have some identity to their

1435
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: offense when when it's going well, where I still watched

1436
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and outside of Ezekiel Elliott doing Azekul Elliott

1437
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: things here and there tonight was impossible to watch there

1438
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: they're they're receiving quote core and who they have out

1439
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: there as targets for Dak Prescott. I mean, you don't

1440
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: want to talk about sustainable issue. That's an issue that

1441
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: they're not going to solve this season. I think we

1442
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: looked up at one point in the fourth quarter and

1443
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: all the receivers combined had twenty nine yards for the game.

1444
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a problem. I am giving myself a

1445
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: pat on the back right now for here now, not

1446
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: at all for waiting this long before tearing into Jason

1447
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: Garrett for that decision in overtime to punt the ball

1448
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: on fourth and one when you're across midfield with under

1449
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: four four minutes left in overtime. And I do think

1450
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 1: there's times of the season when you have to decide

1451
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: as a coach what kind of team are we gonna be?

1452
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: What are we a team that can try to run

1453
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: the ball on fourth and one with one of the

1454
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: most expensive offensive lines in the league, with one of

1455
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league in on a

1456
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: play where all we need is a yard and we

1457
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: increase our chances of winning exponentially, or are we going

1458
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: to be the team that punts in plays for the tie.

1459
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the team that Jason Garrett is saying

1460
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: he wants to be. It's mad ning when you see

1461
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh go for fourth in short in his own

1462
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: territory and Jason Garrett won't even do it past the

1463
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: fifty yard line in overtime with Ezekiel Elliott, with by

1464
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: the way, with Dak Prescott, who is one of the

1465
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: toughest quarterbacks in the league, to take down in one

1466
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: of the best runners, you can't come up with the

1467
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: play to get a couple of yards. And if you

1468
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: get stopped there, you know what, your defense can try

1469
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: to make a play. It's it's okay, We'll let them

1470
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: try to win in that spot too. The arrangement in Dallas,

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: because I think that Jason Garrett is essentially one of

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Speaker 1: the family. If you're in the Garry Jones group, that

1473
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: you're mayor. We know who Jason Garrett is, and right

1474
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: he's not. I don't think he's nearly as bad as

1475
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: some say, or nearly as good as others say. But

1476
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: he is perfectly content. But play the tie that play

1477
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: puts the Cowboys and they have not at coaching. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: see you see some of these teams like Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: started last year, the teams that embrace analytics and understand

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Speaker 1: you have to go for it and that's well and

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Speaker 1: and a trickle down effect to the team. I think

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Speaker 1: they they want him to go for it in that

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Speaker 1: spot and just knowing your team, it's not even so

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Speaker 1: not even just the analytics where it's obviously the smart move,

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Speaker 1: but just knowing what's the strength of my team? What

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Speaker 1: are we all about? If we can't get a yard,

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Speaker 1: we don't deserve to win. I think he just liked

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Speaker 1: being five hundred because Jason Garrett and Dallas is like,

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Speaker 1: to me, five hundred personified, and he thought, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: can ride this out another week, get to two, two

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Speaker 1: and one, maybe we can end up seven seven in two.

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Speaker 1: That's like, I just would like to see some accountability

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Speaker 1: for it, because your to your point about the line

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Speaker 1: and the money poured into one of the best running

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Speaker 1: backs they've ever had. I don't know what you're doing there.

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Speaker 1: A lot of money poured into UH Sunday Night football,

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Speaker 1: and we got a good one this week. We have

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Speaker 1: waking up in the end, some big hits and and

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I feel so happy for that guy what

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Speaker 1: he came back from and now he's one of the

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Speaker 1: best middle linebackers in the NFL. And now both teams

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Speaker 1: are two and three. It feels like half of more

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Speaker 1: than half of the NFL right now has two or

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Speaker 1: three losses. And so throw these into the pile. It's

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Speaker 1: good to see the Texans back in the mix. One

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Speaker 1: last thing. I mean, this is the second game in

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Speaker 1: a row where I think Jadeveon Clowney has played lights

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Speaker 1: out and him and Watt do they always say it, Oh,

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Speaker 1: they make a difference. They they are. They completely had

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Speaker 1: put their marks on this game. And I and I

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Speaker 1: almost forgot one us thing. Uh I'm gonna get from

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Speaker 1: our producer right here. That was a lock for Dan

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Speaker 1: hands Is. He's out. He's so good at hosting. He's

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Speaker 1: locking up games and men when he's not in the build.

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Speaker 1: It's a special skill. Congratulations to him. I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: We we should get going, shall we. Let's do it

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Speaker 1: all right? For a cast of thousands, for Erica tam Posey,

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Speaker 1: Louis Cannon behind the Glass, for cam Molina, for the Sizzler,

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Speaker 1: for the Mailman, for Old Dan handsas to see you Tuesday,