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Speaker 1: what episode is this? Fifty seven? Thank you very much?
Speaker 1: Very important information there, all right, So let's jump right
Speaker 1: into everything that's going on. A few roster moves have happened,
Speaker 1: and nothing major, of course, but they did release both
Speaker 1: Scarborough from the practice squad. Now there are two open.
Speaker 1: Ross is still one. I think I think they they're
Speaker 1: out there practicing. I mean, the Cowboys haven't yet to
Speaker 1: officially announce it, but I think that they're out there practicing.
Speaker 1: So therefore they're signed, right, Dave Um Darian Thompson is here.
Speaker 1: I'm not who's who's the other guy? There's a guy
Speaker 1: named Goodwin Goodson. Yes, he Thompson's the safety drafted by
Speaker 1: the Giants in the third round a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago out of Boise State. Um, I don't know as
Speaker 1: much about good Goodwin for like, some names just you
Speaker 1: can't keep, you know what I mean. Like, I'm struggling
Speaker 1: with this guy, but I'm not one hundred percent sure
Speaker 1: he's here yet. It might not be official, but he's
Speaker 1: expected to be here. Sounds like some some roster churning
Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield. Ibraheim Campbell's out. He was mainly
Speaker 1: a special teamer anyway. Thompson has started sixteen games. At
Speaker 1: one point in his career, honestly, kind of seemed like
Speaker 1: he had a role in New York's defense for a
Speaker 1: minute and then he just fell off and he was
Speaker 1: on Arizona's practice squads. So, um, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna push for a starting job, but
Speaker 1: that is coming from Boise State. I don't know much
Speaker 1: about it. All I know is that the guys coming
Speaker 1: from over there turn out to be pretty okay. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. Scandrick was a great, great and maybe
Speaker 1: not great. Scandrick was a pretty good corner for a
Speaker 1: long time. DeMarcus Lawrence is arguably your best player. Tyrone
Speaker 1: is a solid, versatile guy, and then Lvee Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: did not win. I was waiting for that to come up.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about defense. But there's also a bunch of
Speaker 1: other guys I'm sure that played at Boise that are
Speaker 1: not as good as these guys just mentioned. The vast
Speaker 1: majority of the the vast majority of the Boise guys
Speaker 1: that have come through here have been pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they Bols. Those are guys that they drafted and
Speaker 1: they were pretty good. Right now, Darry and Thompson might
Speaker 1: I don't know. I doubt. I wouldn't expect him to
Speaker 1: do a whole lot, but he's out here. What's funny
Speaker 1: is that you say, well, he was a third round pick,
Speaker 1: and like, oh, third round pick, and then so Chatz
Speaker 1: Green that happened, no doubt. But you can do that
Speaker 1: too all across the draft. Rood done those first rounders,
Speaker 1: second round, third rounders, whatever. The great, the Great Darius
Speaker 1: Jackson has replaced Bow on the practice squad. Didn't even
Speaker 1: realize he was cut by being back. Yeah, damn right,
Speaker 1: my guys back love him getting off the bus. Thing
Speaker 1: just didn't really play, you know. I mean, it's nice Scarborough,
Speaker 1: it looks good, but there was no there's no role
Speaker 1: for him. I guess, all right, well the guys our
Speaker 1: black had practice. Now Cheeto he was. I guess wild
Speaker 1: quarter was that when he was taken out of the
Speaker 1: games third or fourth halftime, halftime he didn't come back
Speaker 1: in the game. He was struggling with an ankle injury.
Speaker 1: But he was at practice today. Now another big question
Speaker 1: mark is still David Irving, who is still out. He
Speaker 1: wasn't seeing out there today at least the portion that
Speaker 1: we get to see, and Jason Garrett did mention that
Speaker 1: he was expected to practice this week. Now again, do
Speaker 1: we just go back to taking it day by the
Speaker 1: Garrett's famous quote and just seeing what actually happens with Earl.
Speaker 1: I think with David, when you see him and you
Speaker 1: see him on the field and you see him playing
Speaker 1: the game, then you're like, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. But he'd had to run out on
Speaker 1: the field, not just not just national anthem, Like he's
Speaker 1: got to get on the field in the game about
Speaker 1: to snap it, and you're like, he is going to play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. I need to see him in a uniform
Speaker 1: doing stuff on a game day Before I worry about it,
Speaker 1: he might take it away. Further, I need to see
Speaker 1: him on the field about to snap it. He was
Speaker 1: supposed to be here yesterday, he wasn't here. He's supposed
Speaker 1: to be here today, he's not here. Garrett hopes he'll
Speaker 1: be here tomorrow. They were confident as of last Friday
Speaker 1: that he was going to play in the game that Sunday.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that he's got there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff going on right now. It sounds like he's
Speaker 1: got to clean up his life. And that's been the
Speaker 1: story with him for a while now. But and Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett said today is the same personal matter he was
Speaker 1: dealing with last week. He talked about it in the summer.
Speaker 1: He's just he had a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 1: in his life. You know, over the last six to
Speaker 1: eight months, you're suspending for four games. He didn't do
Speaker 1: anything at training camp, so basically, you know, he was
Speaker 1: not with the team for about eight weeks. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: I know that's easier said than done. It is, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean, this is your profession,
Speaker 1: and this you have a very small window in your
Speaker 1: life where you can make two point six million dollars
Speaker 1: more more, and you need to figure it out. You
Speaker 1: have people that are counting on you, and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot going on, but money solves
Speaker 1: a lot of issues, and so you can be able
Speaker 1: to help certain things. You have eight weeks. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to to you know, overstate this. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to say, well, that's not a big deal. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of big deals going on. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I think if being gone for eight weeks, I think
Speaker 1: you can get a handle of it and come back.
Speaker 1: I can play you knew this day was coming. I
Speaker 1: just I get what you're saying that until I guess,
Speaker 1: until and unless I hear more about his story, I'm
Speaker 1: unwilling to go completely there. I get your right because
Speaker 1: as a as an adult, your responsibility is to provide
Speaker 1: for your family, and sometimes you have to figure out
Speaker 1: how to do how to handle your personal business, which
Speaker 1: we all have things that come up in our life.
Speaker 1: You have to figure out how to manage all those
Speaker 1: things and at the same time do whatever you do
Speaker 1: in order to bring money in for your family or
Speaker 1: whatever your responsibility or role is within your family. But
Speaker 1: the only part that that I still get a little
Speaker 1: bit that I've slowed down a little bit on is
Speaker 1: I don't know the situation. And if there is legitimately
Speaker 1: a situation that's going on where you know it requires
Speaker 1: him to be there. And let's say you have kids,
Speaker 1: they'll say it involves his kids and he's got to
Speaker 1: be there in order to take care of the situation.
Speaker 1: I know, if it's me, I got to handle my kids.
Speaker 1: My kids are the top priority. They're going to be
Speaker 1: a higher priority than my job. I know that's bad
Speaker 1: to say, but if it comes to it and I
Speaker 1: have to make it decision and I have to be
Speaker 1: at one or the other, I have to go and
Speaker 1: take care of what needs to be taken care of them.
Speaker 1: So again, I don't know what the situation is, but
Speaker 1: I just I pause a little bit at going too
Speaker 1: hard to him on that. You're right, though, at some
Speaker 1: point he's got to figure it out, because if it
Speaker 1: keeps happening like this, eventually your employer says, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I just can't deal with the variability here and then
Speaker 1: you and then now you got two problems. Now you
Speaker 1: don't just have one problem, you got two problems, then
Speaker 1: you would think the communications, the communication between him and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would be better than that, because why is
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett or even Jerry Jones standing up during in
Speaker 1: front of cameras and basically saying, Oh, we'll have him
Speaker 1: for the game or oh he's gonna be here for practice. Well,
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe the situation didn't happen until Saturday. Maybe
Speaker 1: the situation that kept him back didn't come up in
Speaker 1: the way that it came up that forced him not
Speaker 1: to go, didn't come up till Saturday. All I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: we don't know that. I think I just I feel
Speaker 1: a little bit hesitant on killing the guy when you
Speaker 1: don't know what the situation is. And then you come
Speaker 1: back later and you find out the real situation, you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: I feel bad about that, you know, I just I
Speaker 1: don't know until I would know more about that, I
Speaker 1: just I would be a little cautious, little cautious. Okay
Speaker 1: for her to say, well, that's fine, you'd be cautious
Speaker 1: with that, but when you you know, when do you
Speaker 1: cut ties? That's a Jerry call. That's a Jerry Stephen
Speaker 1: will Jason Garrett call. Those guys will have to figure
Speaker 1: out at what point they feel like they're no longer
Speaker 1: willing to deal with whatever he's dealing with personally as
Speaker 1: an organization, because right now what he's dealing with personally
Speaker 1: is affecting the organization. At some point they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make a decision on that. The one thing I
Speaker 1: know about Jerry in watching him all these years, is
Speaker 1: he is one of those guys that tends to help
Speaker 1: his players as much as he possibly can, and is
Speaker 1: willing to even even to the detriment of himself, where
Speaker 1: his organization is willing to be there for his players
Speaker 1: when they're having tough times. So I wouldn't think that
Speaker 1: that time's coming anytime soon. But I don't know they'll
Speaker 1: have to make that decision. Well, you know they put
Speaker 1: him on the roster. I think there's something else going on.
Speaker 1: If they put him on the roster and he's not
Speaker 1: gonna pull you know that he obviously gets paid for
Speaker 1: that week, So I think that might be something that's
Speaker 1: being involved here is trying to help him out from
Speaker 1: that standpoint maybe, And even so, if he was here,
Speaker 1: you let's say he comes tomorrow and does something you
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect him to be playing this weekend. Just depends
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. I mean, he hasn't had anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're throwing him out there for ten to fifteen snaps,
Speaker 1: maybe they think he can do that. Right, there's a
Speaker 1: point in the week. Jason Garrett said this today. There's
Speaker 1: a point in the week where you have to make
Speaker 1: that call. And we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: It's usually Friday. So if he's here tomorrow and Friday
Speaker 1: and can handle the workload, hell yeah, I'll play him.
Speaker 1: I mean, not sixty snaps, but something. But let's see,
Speaker 1: he's got to get here first. See, at this point
Speaker 1: in the game, you know he's already like nothing changes
Speaker 1: for him, you know, Irving. I mean, he's getting paid.
Speaker 1: He's getting paid because he's on the roster, So not
Speaker 1: playing or playing or whatever doesn't really matter to him,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't well I don't know
Speaker 1: if it doesn't matter to him, but he's getting paid.
Speaker 1: Either way, he's getting paid. The Cowboys haven't really no
Speaker 1: leverage there. He either helps him or he doesn't, but
Speaker 1: the paycheck the next week will be exactly the same,
Speaker 1: whether he comes back to Irving, I mean to Frisco
Speaker 1: or whatever and plays or not. Yeah, but that's I
Speaker 1: assume he's smart enough to know no, no, no, no, oh,
Speaker 1: go ahead, he's a he's weird. He's not dumb, David
Speaker 1: Irving is No, he's not dumb. He's eccentric, he's not stupid. Sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Smart enough to know what He's smart enough
Speaker 1: to know that if he wants the money to keep coming,
Speaker 1: he needs to get to work at some point, and
Speaker 1: especially point in future weeks and also in the future
Speaker 1: he's on a one year deal. But that's what also
Speaker 1: tells me that maybe that maybe this thing is a lot,
Speaker 1: whatever he's dealing with personally is a lot bigger than
Speaker 1: we know. And it's a situation where again maybe the
Speaker 1: organization in knowing that thing, as said, if you need
Speaker 1: to go handle that, go handle that. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, okay, let's say he's done.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a dumb guy. No he's not.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's gonna go back and forth, back
Speaker 1: and forth on this. He could do that. He could
Speaker 1: play one game, two game, whatever. He could just play
Speaker 1: one game in week seventeen of the season, three sacks,
Speaker 1: two forced fumbles. He's a free agent. He's gonna get paid,
Speaker 1: Like he's about that. Yeah, he's gonna get You don't
Speaker 1: think I don't think he'll get paid if he doesn't
Speaker 1: like put together a resume of reliability and production to
Speaker 1: a point where a team wants to take that on. No,
Speaker 1: if that's the only game he plays and he gets
Speaker 1: three sacks, like somebody will hire him, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be anything worth getting excited about. Right, But he's not
Speaker 1: gonna get a deal. He's not gonna get a pay
Speaker 1: day if he plays one game after coming back in weekend. Again, honestly, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think at this point him coming If he came
Speaker 1: back now and came back this week and played through
Speaker 1: the rest of this year, and let's say he ended
Speaker 1: up with six sacks, that's a good number of sacks
Speaker 1: for those number of games, I still don't think he
Speaker 1: get along and gets a long term deal. I think
Speaker 1: somebody would be willing to give him one turn, one
Speaker 1: year deal because I think teams are gonna look at
Speaker 1: it and say, yeah, he's a good player, but can't
Speaker 1: we rely on him. And that's been his issue from
Speaker 1: the beginning is is he reliable enough. He's been suspended
Speaker 1: a couple of times. He's had issues where he can't
Speaker 1: be there for whatever reason. So he's had injuries. Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff there that says I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can rely on him. So I think
Speaker 1: teams would be willing to give him a deal that
Speaker 1: gives them a little peak. I don't think there're gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of teams willing to give him a
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Speaker 1: the Break. Welcome back to the second segment of Cowboy's Break. Now,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of bad teams around the league,
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville isn't necessarily one of them. Right now, they
Speaker 1: hold the number one defense in the whole NFL. But
Speaker 1: we will get into that tomorrow, which is going to
Speaker 1: be pretty painful, and but for today, listen, stay on
Speaker 1: the offense side. The team is currently three and two.
Speaker 1: They are coming off with a loss against Kansas City
Speaker 1: thirty fourteen. So let's start off with their quarterback, Dave.
Speaker 1: Tell me about him. What are some of the things
Speaker 1: that this defense can possibly do against him and stop him?
Speaker 1: You guys know about Blake Bortles. Um, Yeah, this, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's funny. This offense in the grand scheme of things. No,
Speaker 1: not in the grand scheme of things, like they're it's
Speaker 1: they're weird, like they're they're not bad. Like let me,
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say bad. I didn't expect to
Speaker 1: say weird. You sit here, you think like, oh, they
Speaker 1: lost nine six to the Titans. Oh they lost thirty
Speaker 1: to fourteen in the Chiefs, Like they can't move the ball.
Speaker 1: That's not really true. This is the ninth overall offense
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Uh, they're twelfth in passing, fifteenth and rushing.
Speaker 1: They average three hundred passing yards. Where are they in scoring?
Speaker 1: They are awful at touring. So I hate the status.
Speaker 1: I know. I know that I'm not saying move to football,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, yeah, I'm just saying that. That's
Speaker 1: to me, that's the overrated status. When you start talking
Speaker 1: about yards on offense or defense, tell me how much
Speaker 1: are you scoring? Because that really is an indication of
Speaker 1: your offense or your defense, like twenty points, twenty thirty, four,
Speaker 1: thirty something. Again, they're scoring points, so don't tell me
Speaker 1: they're offul are they They're they're twenty six and so yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not down there. I disagree. No, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: every game that they've played so far. That's that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's internal. But it's still more than what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are making, so it's not far off. They're about the
Speaker 1: same scoring I think, Yeah, yeah, Cowboys are averaging nineteen something,
Speaker 1: they're sixteen something. I mean the Cowboys are terrible, ye,
Speaker 1: but I think this team's probably this is my point,
Speaker 1: and I hear you like, yards don't matter at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. But like you see, you think
Speaker 1: of Blake Borrels, you think about the fact that they're
Speaker 1: losing games nine to six, You're like, oh, they can't
Speaker 1: move the ball. They can definitely move the football, they
Speaker 1: just haven't figured out how to punch it in, whereas
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can't do anything. I mean, the Cowboys are what,
Speaker 1: they're twenty sixth in total offense, Like they cannot throw
Speaker 1: the ball. They're not averaging two hundred yards per game.
Speaker 1: The Jags are there, they can do that. So it
Speaker 1: just scares me to think that, yeah, they're not clicking
Speaker 1: in the red zone, but they have the pieces that
Speaker 1: they can or at least it looks like it anyway
Speaker 1: getting it. But Blake Bortles is Blake Bortles. Like you know,
Speaker 1: they got to the a FC title game. He sort
Speaker 1: of elevated his game, like he he definitely is capable
Speaker 1: of playing a great game. Yeah, one great game earlier
Speaker 1: this year. He no, yeah, he lit up them. He
Speaker 1: lit up the Pats. He played great against the Pats,
Speaker 1: and he's played adequately in four of the five games.
Speaker 1: And then he just chunked up a stinker of all
Speaker 1: stinkers against the Chiefs. He threw five picks. Uh, these
Speaker 1: are their red zone trips. You know, you talk about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played this inspired defense in the red zone
Speaker 1: against the Texans. The Jags just fell apart. I mean
Speaker 1: they went to the red zone five times. They turned
Speaker 1: it over on downs. Bortles threw a pick, then he
Speaker 1: threw a touchdown, then they turned it over on ounds,
Speaker 1: then he threw another pick. This he threw a football
Speaker 1: into the back of Aligneman's helmet and it ricocheted and
Speaker 1: was intercepted. He also threw an interception from the from
Speaker 1: the Chiefs twenty two, which is not a red zone turnover,
Speaker 1: but it might as well be. I mean, like he
Speaker 1: played so that play where the Chiefs returner was like
Speaker 1: not going down, Like yes, yeah, it was one of
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah. He took it all the way out
Speaker 1: to midfield, like these guys never get the ball and
Speaker 1: they're like, I'm not giving it up. Like put him
Speaker 1: on offense. I thought it might have been Trevarious Ward,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't him. Stand there's some interesting similarities I
Speaker 1: think here between these two offenses. Your quarterback has potential.
Speaker 1: I think he's athletic. Blake Bortles is. You don't think
Speaker 1: of him as being an athletic guy, at least I
Speaker 1: didn't until I watched him. But why because he's tall
Speaker 1: and white, Like he looks I mean, he's he's he's
Speaker 1: he looks like a statue when he stands back in
Speaker 1: the pocket. Seller here that there's something. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know I didn't say that you could. I don't think
Speaker 1: of Blake Bortles as being this athletic quarterback. I just
Speaker 1: don't but whatever. But he can escape pressure and he
Speaker 1: has had at least twenty seven rushing yards in every game.
Speaker 1: They've had um longs of twenty one, twenty three, and
Speaker 1: forty one like he'll wait, he'll hurt you. Forty one
Speaker 1: yard run, yes again two. I believe that one was
Speaker 1: in the opener against UMIs Group. No, that was the Pats.
Speaker 1: He did it again. Who'd they open with? I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but he's gone from the No. One yard run. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who. But I mean, some of them are
Speaker 1: some of them are designed, some of them are scrambles.
Speaker 1: But he's had a run like that in damn near
Speaker 1: every game they've played. Um Alex Smith like kind of sneaky,
Speaker 1: but sneaky. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Um.
Speaker 1: His offensive line is not amazing. They signed Andrew Norwell.
Speaker 1: He was the highest paid guard in football before Zach
Speaker 1: got his deal. Mart, thank you. That absolutely going to
Speaker 1: raise it to hear the left side of him and
Speaker 1: Josh Wells looks pretty good. The right side, aj Can
Speaker 1: at guard and our old friend Jeremy Parnell at right
Speaker 1: tackle me. They're awful. They're bad, Jeremy, Jeremy Parnell looks
Speaker 1: like he got paid. He got a pretty decent deal. No,
Speaker 1: he did not. He did not add the e um Jeremy,
Speaker 1: it's Jeremy. He's Jeremy. He looks like he's moving in
Speaker 1: quicksand I think that's something to watch. With DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: primarily playing on the left side. I know, it seems
Speaker 1: like we've said that every week and sometimes it's worked
Speaker 1: out really well. It didn't work out agree against Houston
Speaker 1: or Seattle, but you're starting to see and that Houston
Speaker 1: really gave a lot of attention to him. To Lawrence,
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't get a lot of opportunities. He
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of one on one with him. Now,
Speaker 1: he did make a big play at the end of
Speaker 1: the game him Jalen Smith got after Watson. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: he did have a nice pressure at the end of
Speaker 1: that game. But which is kind of shocking to me
Speaker 1: that with them paying so much attention to him as
Speaker 1: somebody else didn't get off that that was kind of surprising. Well,
Speaker 1: we can talk about ninety four. I mean, he's really
Speaker 1: not doing anything for you. I mean, positively, he's doing
Speaker 1: some things for you, you know, as far as the
Speaker 1: penalty wise, what's that last penalty was really tough? That
Speaker 1: was a football play too. Yeah, I don't think that
Speaker 1: was a I don't like that call. Now, the one
Speaker 1: in Seattle where he kind of hits the guy right
Speaker 1: in the face in front of everybody world, that was
Speaker 1: that was an issue. Yeah. Um, it would be great
Speaker 1: if Randy Gregory could play well in this game. Actually,
Speaker 1: because if you watch the Chiefs game, d Ford, who
Speaker 1: is a He's a three four type of rusher, small
Speaker 1: linebacker type, speed guy, pretty mediocre career considering how highly
Speaker 1: he was drafted. He looked like he looked like von
Speaker 1: Miller out there against Jeremy Parnell and some of their
Speaker 1: other guys. So I think you can get to him
Speaker 1: off the edge, and I definitely think you can take
Speaker 1: advantage of the right side of that. Um, what's happened
Speaker 1: to tackle? Good question? Yeah, no, at the start of season,
Speaker 1: the first two games about to really make some playing
Speaker 1: and it's just the last few weeks is just I
Speaker 1: haven't really seen him. He has fallen off in the
Speaker 1: last three games. I don't think we've played that drop
Speaker 1: in a while. It was just like, oh, this drove
Speaker 1: me crazy. So I went back and look, Um they
Speaker 1: they squeaked out a win over the Giants in week one.
Speaker 1: I remember that. Now sae Quon had that big seventy
Speaker 1: yard run. Um. Yeah, but here's so I feel bad
Speaker 1: saying this reminds me of the Dallas offense. But like
Speaker 1: just case in point, the Jags let Alan Robinson and
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns go and they didn't do a ton to
Speaker 1: replace him. Like they brought in Dante Moncrief from Indie.
Speaker 1: They drafted my guy DJ Shark from LSU. They have
Speaker 1: d D Westbrook and they found Keelan Cole who's in
Speaker 1: his second year, and like these guys are good. Um,
Speaker 1: Keelan Cole's actually bigger than I thought he was. He's
Speaker 1: like six one to something. Um, but they all where
Speaker 1: did Lee go? Lee's hurt? Um, he's on I R
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, I didn't know he's own. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe these are their top three guys. Um a Cardinal's
Speaker 1: top four. But he really is. He's the receiver's coitch,
Speaker 1: is he? I say they remind me the Cowboys because
Speaker 1: I just don't they don't have like a stud I mean,
Speaker 1: Cole Cole can do some nice things. He's already halfway
Speaker 1: to his reception tally from last year. Westbrook is scary
Speaker 1: and that he's fast, but like they don't have just
Speaker 1: this guy that can do everything. And that's so my
Speaker 1: point is they really do two things in my opinion,
Speaker 1: like this. You know, we talked about the Texans and
Speaker 1: all this motion and you know, newfangled stuff. The Jags
Speaker 1: don't really do that. They're way more traditional and they
Speaker 1: use the speed of these receivers because they're all burners.
Speaker 1: They send them deep and they either do that so
Speaker 1: they can clear out space for somebody to run underneath,
Speaker 1: or they just bomb it to him. Like literally, Bortles
Speaker 1: is going to take at least five, if not eight,
Speaker 1: to ten deep shots in this game, like literally, like
Speaker 1: you'll see possessions where he does at three plays in
Speaker 1: a row. In other words, that's why they either score
Speaker 1: little points or they just go crazy like they did
Speaker 1: against New England. If they can hit those big plays,
Speaker 1: they love to live with the deep ball. But then also,
Speaker 1: and you know he hasn't been consistent, but Dede Westbrook
Speaker 1: can really hurt you because again, you know, they'll hit
Speaker 1: him on a crossing route after clearing out space with
Speaker 1: these deep routes and if you don't make the first tackle,
Speaker 1: big time yak stuff. He had. He had nine for
Speaker 1: one thirty against the Jets two weeks ago. But they
Speaker 1: and to get back to the red zone. They don't.
Speaker 1: They haven't figured that out one much like the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a guy who can consistently
Speaker 1: win when the field shrinks. And as much as they
Speaker 1: built this team, they think they want to run the
Speaker 1: ball like, they're not great at it obviously. Fournette, guy,
Speaker 1: Fournette's not gonna play. Although interestingly, and this goes back
Speaker 1: to last year, Like, you know, I love Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: His yards per carries not amazing, you know, Like, but
Speaker 1: they can with a guy like him, you can afford
Speaker 1: to give it to him a lot. Yeah, especially when
Speaker 1: you have an offense and doesn't have a lot great
Speaker 1: receiving options and afford to give it to him a lot.
Speaker 1: He gets hurt a lot, That's true. He's Fred Taylor
Speaker 1: talking about old Jacks. TJ. TJ. Yelden is averaging like
Speaker 1: four and a half per carry, So like he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's fine. And there they can run the ball when
Speaker 1: they want to but it's it doesn't wow me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it looks like Lamar Miller to me. Mine. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's not you don't see anywhere near
Speaker 1: as much motion. Like this is a very traditional looking offense,
Speaker 1: at least by modern standards. Um, they've targeted yelled in
Speaker 1: thirty three times. He scares me more as a receiver
Speaker 1: than as a runner. Like, I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: dominate this game, but they could throw it to him
Speaker 1: a lot um and yeah, like this is a big
Speaker 1: play offense. But when they don't get them, they kind
Speaker 1: of stagnate. And then when the field shrinks and you
Speaker 1: can't go over the top of people, they haven't figured
Speaker 1: out how to get into the end zone. How much
Speaker 1: does that help the Cowboys that um with a guy
Speaker 1: like excuse me, a team like this that that's that
Speaker 1: loves to throw the ball deep, which means you gotta
Speaker 1: take a little bit more time to allow those routes
Speaker 1: to develop. And an offensive line like you said that
Speaker 1: the right is at the right side or the lift side,
Speaker 1: right side of the right side on the right side,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. How much has that contributed it to
Speaker 1: them getting a lot of sacks because they want to
Speaker 1: take the time and let the play develop, but their
Speaker 1: their offensive line can't hold up. Yeah. No, he's been
Speaker 1: sacked eleven times in five games. It's not a huge
Speaker 1: number though, right, it's probably middle of the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys have given up what thirteen So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not great. It's not among the league's best. I
Speaker 1: don't it's not among the league's worst either, but yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I said, speed, for me is the thing,
Speaker 1: because like Jeremy Parnell just cannot deal with a guy
Speaker 1: with like a great first step. But then Bortles is
Speaker 1: athletic enough to deal with some of that. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of these are like, you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't wait to do to take that shot, you know,
Speaker 1: like these aren't long developing plays. But I don't he
Speaker 1: doesn't get the ball out anywhere near as fast as
Speaker 1: the last two quarterbacks that they've played. So I feel
Speaker 1: like we say this every week, but there's plays to
Speaker 1: be made in the past rush if they can get home,
Speaker 1: which I'd love. I know it did not work against
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson they blitzed and it did not work,
Speaker 1: but I think it could against this guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I wonder, excuse me, I wonder. I'll ask you guys
Speaker 1: the question, do you think against Houston, the reason it
Speaker 1: didn't work is because in the first half he was
Speaker 1: kind of leaking out quite a bit, really in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, and that maybe the defense decided and maybe
Speaker 1: the coordinators decided, hey, it's a better operator. It's better
Speaker 1: for us to just stay in our lanes and keep
Speaker 1: him in the pocket then to rush aggressively and allow
Speaker 1: him to leak out. Do you think that maybe that
Speaker 1: was a part of the reason why they weren't getting
Speaker 1: home as frequently. Well, I mean I think they weren't
Speaker 1: getting home because because he gets out of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree with with some of that that there was
Speaker 1: a change there in philosophy, but I do think that
Speaker 1: you know, they the defensive tackles as they did play
Speaker 1: pretty well, but a lot of that pressure came from
Speaker 1: the outside. Then when he steps up and does come out,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's the linebackers. You know, they have to
Speaker 1: a decision to make every time. I know there was
Speaker 1: a play where he was out there and Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: had to decide do I go after you or do
Speaker 1: I stay home? So that's just what a mobile quarterback does.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if it be is aggressive with Bortles, right,
Speaker 1: But that was kind of my point is maybe if
Speaker 1: that was their strategy, if that was their thought in
Speaker 1: that game, maybe you don't have to worry about that
Speaker 1: as much in a game like this because you know,
Speaker 1: when you when you're dealing with a guy that's athletic, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's different than dealing with the guy who's completely mobile.
Speaker 1: You know, I think you have to be a lot
Speaker 1: more cautious when you're dealing with a Deshaun Watson. They
Speaker 1: have to be Not only that, but I just think
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson his nails, you know, like he's he's got it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, ports like that sounds like a
Speaker 1: hot take like I've never met Blake Bortles, But I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he's got it. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's like poised and is just always gonna be.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's got it. I don't think you
Speaker 1: have to meet the guy well, I know, well, when
Speaker 1: you say got it, can he play? Well, that's saying
Speaker 1: here's the thing about athletic quarterbacks, and I think this
Speaker 1: is what you know, you see guys in college do
Speaker 1: some great things. Uh. You see some athletic guys that
Speaker 1: don't ever get drafted. Uh. You know what's the difference
Speaker 1: between a Dak and Deshaun Watson. This guy gets picked
Speaker 1: pretty high or Mahomes gets picked pretty high. Um. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's being able to throw on the move,
Speaker 1: like actually running and throwing at the same time. I
Speaker 1: don't think Dak is really that good at that. I
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you. I think he could run
Speaker 1: out there and then he needs to kind of stop
Speaker 1: and all that. But when he's just slinging it. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times we see on tape. You're
Speaker 1: like he's open, he's there, and I'm like, okay, but
Speaker 1: he's on his back foot and he doesn't have that
Speaker 1: Farve could do it, Mahomes could do it. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have it. He's got to set his feet. That's the
Speaker 1: difference to me between a fourth round pick and a
Speaker 1: first round pick. And that's what I don't know. If
Speaker 1: not Bordles on the other hand, yeah, athletic, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but you still need to set your feet and throw it.
Speaker 1: If you're in Watson though, you saw him just slinging
Speaker 1: the ball, So I think I disagree, Like it seems
Speaker 1: like one of Dak's mo consistently good throws is when
Speaker 1: he's drifting in a direction and then just fires it
Speaker 1: in there, which, like, I think he's a pretty good
Speaker 1: thrower on the run. The problem is, and Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: talked a lot about this today, is like if he
Speaker 1: has to move in the pocket and re establish himself,
Speaker 1: he's not good at it. He's he just isn't. But
Speaker 1: he seems like Jason did not say that, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just knowing Jason. He did not say that. Jason just
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the art if you will of
Speaker 1: like moving in the pocket. He's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not always noticeable to the naked eye or to somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't play the position, but like the best quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have to move in the pocket and re establish their
Speaker 1: watch watch him operate in the pocket. He never runs
Speaker 1: what he does, he just moves, He slides, and when
Speaker 1: he gets to where he's going, he re establishes and
Speaker 1: he throws. And he's so good at case in point,
Speaker 1: like one of the better players Dak made the other
Speaker 1: night was when it all went to hell, and he
Speaker 1: was running for dear life and through that prayer to Tavon,
Speaker 1: And I mean it was a well placed ball. Tavon
Speaker 1: had to go get it, but it went where it
Speaker 1: needed to be. It's when he has to stit sept
Speaker 1: somebody and move and then there's a guy in his face.
Speaker 1: He doesn't re establish his mechanics to the point where
Speaker 1: it goes where he wants it to. Yeah, all, and
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of comments, but I will avoid
Speaker 1: them because we have more things to talk about. David,
Speaker 1: what was the thing that you wanted to add A well,
Speaker 1: so we saw during the break. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know how big of a deal this will be. But
Speaker 1: they did sign Jamal Charles. They lost they lost Corey
Speaker 1: Grant to a list frank injury, and Leonard Fournette has
Speaker 1: already been ruled out. So he'll be your number two.
Speaker 1: I wonder, just like t J. Yeldon, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I worry more about them in the passing game than
Speaker 1: the running game, like they're gonna run the ball. I
Speaker 1: trust the Dallas front seven. This is the what I
Speaker 1: already said it. This is the fifteenth best rushing offense.
Speaker 1: They can move the ball, but it's it's not something
Speaker 1: that breaks me out. Do you remember going to games
Speaker 1: ut when he was there? No, that was he was
Speaker 1: way after Sorry. Sorry. He seems like an old guy.
Speaker 1: He's been around the league for a long time. But
Speaker 1: I'm also an old guy, so true. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was back in school. What I was actually gonna
Speaker 1: bring up? Quarterback? This is a fun little brothers. I'm listening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, I know you are fun little stat that
Speaker 1: I would not have guessed. We'll talk about the Jags
Speaker 1: defense tomorrow. But how many takeaways do you think they
Speaker 1: have this year on defense? How many? Not very many?
Speaker 1: Because I have them in fantasy and they're not getting
Speaker 1: me points that I thought they'd be getting me. Sorry man.
Speaker 1: Six they're stopping yards or not. Teams aren't scoring a
Speaker 1: lot on the most part. But yeah, turnovers aren't happening. Five.
Speaker 1: It is won a game. Miles Jack had to pick
Speaker 1: six in Week one and they've basically been mad ever since.
Speaker 1: How many times have they given the ball away? Twelve?
Speaker 1: They lead the league. Bortles wants to give you this fall.
Speaker 1: He does still have a winning record. Yeah, that tells
Speaker 1: you how good that defense really is. It is, but
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen it firsthand your offense. If your
Speaker 1: offense isn't a guarantee to score seventeen points in any
Speaker 1: given week, it doesn't matter how good your defense is,
Speaker 1: you'll still lose more games. How many picks does that
Speaker 1: has that throne for? Four five touchdowns and four picks?
Speaker 1: Four picks? I mean, of all of those picks, every
Speaker 1: one of them has been knocked up in the air, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and this isn't a this isn't a good
Speaker 1: thing about that, both the ones in Seattle and both
Speaker 1: of the ones in Houston. I mean, he's not just
Speaker 1: like staring down a guy throwing it and it's not
Speaker 1: you know, but that's not necessarily a good thing. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, oh, it's all great. I mean, because he's
Speaker 1: forcing the ball in there when he maybe he shouldn't
Speaker 1: enforce it into players that he really shouldn't be like
Speaker 1: Thompson is one of them, Jarwin is another gallup was
Speaker 1: the one that dropped it? That earl cough a shoe?
Speaker 1: What's the one? What's the and Tavan all four of those. Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: that's when you need your receivers to be able to
Speaker 1: make plays. I could have, that's true. And the first
Speaker 1: side of that, we always talked about Deaz and he
Speaker 1: knocked a few ball. You know, he played volleyball a
Speaker 1: little bit last year too, But he also caught some.
Speaker 1: That's one thing we're not seeing out of these guys.
Speaker 1: They're just not like you know me versus you like
Speaker 1: he caught that. Yes, how often are you seeing them
Speaker 1: at one specific guy going up against another defender? You're
Speaker 1: compared to des brian to what des Briant was used
Speaker 1: to getting. It's not I'm saying Dez got a lot
Speaker 1: of chances to go fifty fifty right and go up
Speaker 1: against a defender. These receivers are not getting that same
Speaker 1: amount of time. You feel comfortable with any of them
Speaker 1: doing that, like doing any of those guys. I would
Speaker 1: like to give them a try and see if just
Speaker 1: having them in there a little bit longer would help
Speaker 1: them out, because clearly the whole rotation thing isn't working. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're talking about opportunities just in the game, not necessarily
Speaker 1: throwing up fifty fifty balls. I'm sorry. I get you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, I'm just saying they don't when
Speaker 1: the balls in the air. I don't think it's fifty
Speaker 1: fifty ball right now. That's the problem. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is a fifty fifty ball. I think it is
Speaker 1: a thirty seventy ball. And seventy thirty is that you're
Speaker 1: gonna catch it. Seventy is that it's hitting the ground
Speaker 1: or it's going to another team, And that's not really
Speaker 1: good at all. This isn't fifty fifty. Well mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: my question would be, how do you fix that? Though?
Speaker 1: Is it what Amber says that maybe you need maybe
Speaker 1: you need to limit down. I mean, you got you
Speaker 1: still got to play this season, right, So what do
Speaker 1: you do this this season? Like? Is it what Amber
Speaker 1: saying where you limit you kind of shrink your your
Speaker 1: rotation with wide receivers and you use specific guys a
Speaker 1: lot more. Is it the kinds of routes that they're
Speaker 1: running that maybe you need to be doing more of
Speaker 1: another kind of thing using these using the skill set
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers versus what they're doing right now? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you fix that? Lenahan is this is his
Speaker 1: playbook this is his playbook. So if this is I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he's if he
Speaker 1: just hasn't flipped to like the exotic pages of all
Speaker 1: the cool stuff that is exotic. Yeah, here's something I
Speaker 1: don't understand this whole, Like, oh, why not let Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett do the play calling when you're at this point
Speaker 1: and so much is a stake right now and the
Speaker 1: place is getting so heated up? Why not just do it?
Speaker 1: And who cares? Who cares what people have to say
Speaker 1: about it? Who cares about pride? Put that aside. Your
Speaker 1: goal is to win a game. Let's do it, no
Speaker 1: matter what it takes, and just give it a try
Speaker 1: and see how it works out for the team. But
Speaker 1: the coach has to get to a point where he
Speaker 1: feels like that's the biggest problem. How can you not
Speaker 1: feel that way? I'm not talking you might feel that way.
Speaker 1: I see it. The coach has to get to that point,
Speaker 1: and I'm not stay that he does that he feels
Speaker 1: like that's the biggest problem that needs to be changed.
Speaker 1: The second where Jason Garrett go to school Princeton. That's
Speaker 1: typ clear pretty smart school. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: the play call in this week, we're gonna play Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Guess what Jacksonville's deef. I need to be able to
Speaker 1: run in football. Okay, well you don't. You don't do that,
Speaker 1: you don't pass, and you lose maybe not whatever, game right,
Speaker 1: right right right? Let let Ahan take this one and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take over for Washington and whatever. Its very smart, right.
Speaker 1: Let let Ahan get one more with the Jaguars and
Speaker 1: then it's time and then we may because if he
Speaker 1: does it, can you imagine, Okay, he takes over the
Speaker 1: play call, let's say this week, and everyone knows about it,
Speaker 1: and the three and out is zeke for two incomplete
Speaker 1: here sack on third down punt? The I mean, how
Speaker 1: many tweets are gonna be like, oh, look, if he
Speaker 1: takes over play calling, none of us will know. None
Speaker 1: of us will know about it publicly. We might hear
Speaker 1: rumors and people might tell us off the record, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna announce, Hey, Jason's taken over. Next week when
Speaker 1: you get to talk to Scotland and Scott will just
Speaker 1: kill Scott will still be talking pay and what you
Speaker 1: continue to do what we do. We do what we do.
Speaker 1: Covered your mouth the whole game, and Lenahan was eating
Speaker 1: the hot dog the whole first half, like, what's going
Speaker 1: on here? They don't get out If something like that
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying, there will be rumors. They will
Speaker 1: never admit to it. I mean, it's happening right now
Speaker 1: in my school. The head coach is called. You cannot
Speaker 1: convince me he's not calling the place. And you cannot
Speaker 1: convince me he wasn't calling the place starting earlier in
Speaker 1: the season than just when the offensive Cordy was out.
Speaker 1: Let me ask this question again, where did Garrett go
Speaker 1: to school? Okay, so the flip side always scored twenty
Speaker 1: eight points and they win twenty eight to ten offen
Speaker 1: dack those for three fifty. Garrett, what was the issue? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I started calling the place this week. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna say that, you know, Garrett, you talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time. He walks in that same blue outfit.
Speaker 1: He's not he's not giving anything away, Red, don't give
Speaker 1: anything work. Well, Dave, you gave it us a pretty
Speaker 1: good scouting report. It was pretty bad. You made him
Speaker 1: sound pretty bad, which is good. So it's good job,
Speaker 1: pretty good. Hey, you know, like I said, I always
Speaker 1: try to do my own homework, but I'd be stupid
Speaker 1: not to cross check with Brian. I didn't realize we
Speaker 1: were at a time, so yeah, we're running out, but
Speaker 1: really quick. Ran watch this offense and was like this,
Speaker 1: they can they match up well with these guys, And
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, that is a favorable matchup. The
Speaker 1: tough one is tomorrow defense. But I mean, these corners
Speaker 1: can stay with these These corners can stay with these,
Speaker 1: these receivers. I worry about the underneath stuff. Westbrook catching
Speaker 1: a ten yard pass and going sixty. That scares me.
Speaker 1: But they haven't. They haven't given up more than twenty
Speaker 1: four points this season. They can hold these guys to
Speaker 1: less than that. I believe that, barring unless the defense
Speaker 1: is scoring touchdowns for him, they can keep this offense
Speaker 1: to twenty four or less. There's no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: Go nice. I like that. Thank you, Dave, Thank you
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