1 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arms Strong and. 3 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: He Armstrong and Strong. 4 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. 5 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some 6 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: good stuff for you. 7 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we do. 8 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: And if you want to catch up on your ang 9 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: listening during your travels, remember. 10 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: Grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You ought 11 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: to subscribe wherever you like to get podcasts. Now on 12 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: with the infotainment. Dozens of Ukrainian prisoners. 13 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: Of war were freed in an exchange with Russia. They 14 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: were greeted to a hero's welcome at a hospital north 15 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: of Kiev, but they looked like the living dead, gaunt 16 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: heads shaven, their bodies broken and some said beaten. Alexandro 17 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Kolkoff told me he was a prisoner for over three 18 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: years and that the Russians broke his ribs. If nothing 19 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: was already broken, they would break it, he said. 20 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Jeez, Putin and his military, they're animals. You want to 21 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: let them win. Don't get it anyway, Pete Hagzeth, who 22 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: we were just applauding for something. He was asked under 23 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: oath yesterday by Senate lawmakers. He's doing three appearances before 24 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Congress this weekend, being grilled about a whole bunch of 25 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: different things. Senator McConnell, former Majority Leader, asked the question 26 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: of Hegxeth who is the aggressor in Ukraine? And Hagzeth said, 27 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Russia is the aggressor now. Steve Hayes of The Dispatch said, 28 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: should we be encouraged that Hegzeth gave the obvious and 29 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: accurate answer to that question or discourage that McConnell felt 30 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: the need to ask it. But yeah, it's good. It's 31 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: good good news as far as I'm concerned. Man oh Man, 32 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: that's that's something. Those stories about the hostages are prisoners 33 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: coming back. 34 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: He had the utter disregard for human life, whether theirs 35 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: or other people's. That is part of Russian military history 36 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: is a I was just reading and listening about World 37 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: War two, some of the major victories that Russia had 38 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: and the incredible sacrifices they made, and the point was 39 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: made that some of those horrific numbers are because of 40 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: their techniques. They're just utterly heedless of wasting men. 41 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: That it doesn't matter. Tomo never had. 42 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and US casualties were much much lower in similar encounters, 43 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: just because we go about warfare in a very different 44 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: way we did back in the forties. Anyway, culture and 45 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: continues to today. 46 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: Obviously back closer to home. I thought this was a 47 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: pretty good point from Jim Garrity the National Review. Do 48 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: California elected officials realize how ridiculous they sound when they 49 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: spend several days insisting that local law enforcement had it handled, 50 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: the streets were quiet, and local law enforcement resources are 51 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: sufficient to maintain order, and then a day or two later, 52 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: last night, the mayor is forced to declare a curfew. Okay, 53 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: you had it and under control, you still got You 54 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: had to have a curview last night with the National 55 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Guard troops. What would have been like without them? 56 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: You know? 57 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: The metaphor I keep using and I'm sticking with it 58 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: is demark the leaders in California are like a sports 59 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: team that has not yet played a real game. They 60 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: just scrimmage. They have an inter squad scrimmage over and 61 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: over and over again, and they never come up against 62 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: an opponent that's really really trying to win, and they 63 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: think they have game. Gavin Newsom thinks he has national 64 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: level game. 65 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Two suspects of It's just been charged with throwing molotov 66 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: cocktails at police during the LA riots. This happened moments ago. 67 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound very peaceful to me. Firebombs. Just a 68 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: bunch of people having fun watching carsburn. Just a bunch 69 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: of people enjoying watching cars burn. 70 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, give me seventy, Michael seventy again, 71 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: the great Maxine Waters. 72 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Don't think that somehow, because they called the National Guard 73 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: there was violence. There was no violence. I was on 74 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: the street. I know. 75 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, those chunks of concrete being hurled over and over 76 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: again at the cops. 77 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: I guess that video is AI or something. Okay, we 78 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: live in a post truth universe. Oh and inflation lower 79 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: than expected, So I don't understand what's going on. Why 80 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: after a liberation day in the tariffs and the turmoil 81 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: and this and that, and of course the endless mainstream 82 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: coverage of how Trump's Hitler with a bad economic policy, 83 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: his poll numbers are up. In inflation's basically flat. 84 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: Okay, bing bing bang bang bing bing bing bing bing 85 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: bong bong. Granted, but it's a complicated stew of the economy. 86 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: It could be argued that increased fears of economic woes 87 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: to come have caused a suppression of consumer spending. I 88 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: would have to dig. 89 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: Into that economic stew. 90 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Oh hey, speaking of AI, which I mentioned a second ago. 91 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of people now believe AI or chat 92 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: GPT is God. 93 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: What seems to. 94 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: Be a religion is forming up around AI. Quasi religious 95 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: posts would fill up entire AI forums if moderators didn't 96 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: censor them. Just five days ago, the moderator of a 97 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: pro AI reddit announced that they are now banning these fanatics. 98 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: Two days earlier, another dditor warned of thousands of people 99 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: online with spiritual delusions about AI. 100 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: I need to look into this. That I hadn't heard 101 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: a word about nor anticipated a lot of this stuff. 102 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I had anticipated a lot of us did I hadn't 103 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: anticipated that. That's kooky. Now I did get ye, I 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: did get sent this the other day. It was an ad. 105 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where the ad show up. I won't 106 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: replace him, but I'll be here when you can't sleep. 107 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: Here are ten AI boyfriends who help you, heal, distract you, 108 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: and remind you of your worth and it's got a 109 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: picture of a young handsome man. Where in the hell 110 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: are we headed a planet of the beavers? Nobody's getting 111 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: together anymore. I won't replace him, but I'll be here 112 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: when you can't sleep. Here are ten AI boyfriends who 113 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: help you, heal, distract you, and remind you of your worth. 114 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: That is so freaking crazy. That is so freaking crazy. 115 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: How did it happen so fast? I mean we thought 116 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: maybe someday, if AI gets good enough and robots look 117 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: exactly like humans, possibly the most deranged among us could develop. No, no, 118 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: just the middle of that sentence that happened, just just 119 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: words on a screen with no voice, yeah, and no 120 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: image whatsoever. And no robot is making people stay at 121 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: home and feel like they're in a relationship. That is 122 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: so crazy. 123 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: You yourself have mentioned that uh chat GPT or whatever 124 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: is a better counselor than most counselors. 125 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: Freaking right if you have that in using that that 126 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: biggest stretch that it's a better friend too. Yeah, but 127 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: a but an emotional like love. 128 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: Relationship, really, see, a friend relationship is sick because it's 129 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: like you No, no, I haven't. 130 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I haven't felt that at all any like friendship or 131 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: anything like that. The ability to distill a tremendous amount 132 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: of information down to the best very quickly and put 133 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: it in like conversational terms. Yes, but that is so nuts. 134 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where we're going, man, down 135 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: this road lies Matt, You're right, Jonathan Turley, Maybe this 136 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: stat that I came across doesn't matter since everybody's going 137 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: to be in love with a chatbot. You can't have 138 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: a kid with a chatbot. The average cost of raising 139 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: a child in the US is now twenty six thousand 140 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: dollars per year. Okay, I think most parents listening right 141 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: now are saying, how in the heck are you raising 142 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: a kid for twenty six thousand dollars a year? 143 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: Really? 144 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what they factor into raising 145 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: a kid or whatnot, but seems low to me. Everything 146 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: everything in, food, clothes, schooling, everything. Every time I hear 147 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: those numbers, whether they are low or high, I think, 148 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: how did you come up with that? That's true? Yeah, 149 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: because what are you? And who asked? Band? Rental, travel, sports, vacation. 150 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: But then again, to my point, who asked you? Since 151 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: I've never heard a parent good point say, you know 152 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: my kid's costing more than I thought. I'm a good 153 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: point consider change in this relationship. No parent has like 154 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: on their spreadsheet or whatever. If you're the sort of 155 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: person that does this, I don't probably should where you 156 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: put all your expenses. I don't know if anybody who 157 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: like has things that they put in the what it 158 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: cost me to have a kid column to keep track? 159 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Well, right, yeah, yeah, I've never having raised three kids, 160 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: I had a minor child under my roof for twenty 161 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: five straight years. At no point did Judy and I 162 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: ever say, all right, we need to total up all 163 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: these expenses so we can what and then we'll grant 164 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: credits for lawns mode and bathrooms cleaned or whatever chores 165 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: were done, and then we'll I mean, it's just it 166 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: wasn't anything we ever thought about. 167 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: Yea, I'll knock off five thousand dollars for the most 168 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: satisfying thing I've ever done in life. I'll give you that, 169 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: But the rest of it is just a cost. 170 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: It's a negative, right, and the whole I'm just it's funny. 171 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I lacked imagination as a youngster, but Judy and 172 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: I knew we wanted to have kids. Point and so 173 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: we went ahead. There was no like, long, careful, can we. 174 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Afford to or what? 175 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: No, you just do it and figure it out and 176 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: it goes fine. 177 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 178 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: Were we poor? Yes? Was it fine? Yeah? 179 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, the expenses just kind of fit in with the 180 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: rest of your household expenses. I mean, I suppose you 181 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: could make the argument that your house is bigger, so 182 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: part of the house payment goes is because of them, 183 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: and you have to maybe have a bigger car and 184 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: make more trips. You figure out all the gas for 185 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: driving to pick them up at school and drop them. 186 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a nut if you do that. 187 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, and again, why are we talking about it? 188 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: I don't know, so you can't exactly what's the thing exactly? Yeah, well, 189 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: I need to put a price on each child. 190 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. 191 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: The boy's extra handsome, so I'll getting a discount. But yeah, 192 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: it's an odd bit of analysis. You play sports, not 193 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: dollars and cents. You play sports, so I had to 194 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: buy you more clothes for that. You don't play sports, 195 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,119 Speaker 2: but you're in band, so you have a different cost. 196 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: What the hell? 197 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, seems odd. Life is not 198 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: dollars and cents, folks, she can't take it with you. Ah, right, 199 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: moving along. I don't want to talk unrest anymore. I'll 200 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: tell you this. Here's a great protest for you. This 201 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: is really going to get a lot of people on 202 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: their side. Hundreds of flowers were vandalized at a botanical 203 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Michigan garden, and the activists who did it left pro 204 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Palestinian signs behind that said plant lives don't matter. Human 205 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: lives do. 206 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, glue those people to something, Let us 207 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: pelt them with rocks or fruit. 208 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: I'm in favor of all of those things. The garden 209 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: director made his heart broken tell of. 210 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: The few things that falls under our strict reading of 211 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: cruel and unusual. Glue to them to something and throw 212 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: rocks at them is probably cruel and unusual, Barber, It's 213 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: a little cruel and certainly unusual. You've been sentenced to 214 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: be glued to something in public. Yeahan lives. You deserve 215 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: to be cared for more than these flowers. Don't waste 216 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: your tears on the flowers. They're not even dead, and 217 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: we'll grow again next spring. Ah. Is it even worth 218 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: going this far into this conversation? Do they possibly think 219 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: they did their cause any help. I almost feel like 220 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: if I wanted to discredit the pro Palestinian crowd, I 221 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: would do something like that. Is this like a you know, 222 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: a noose flag operation, a noose in a fraternity to 223 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: show racism, and it turns out it's the somebody put 224 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: it up on purpose. 225 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: To stop the war, resist imperialism, the flowers and crazy people. 226 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: I would like to give you a good thrash, glue 227 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: you or something. 228 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong and Getty Show, The 229 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: Armstrong and So Japan released their birth statistics yesterday. They 230 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: had about six hundred and eighty thousand babies in twenty 231 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty four. That was down five point seven percent from 232 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: the previous year, which had set a record. 233 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: Previous ye year. 234 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: So this is the spiral that people talk about that 235 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: if you've ever read about it or looked at it mathematically, 236 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: there's something happens when you're when you're you know, it's 237 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: like compound interest. Really, it's a similar concept when you 238 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: stop having babies and then those people don't grow up, 239 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: so they don't have two kids, and I mean it 240 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: just exponentially shrinks and then at some point you hit 241 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: a tipping point and it just goes really really fast, 242 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: and they must be there. In Japan, a drop of 243 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: five point seven percent in one year from the previous 244 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: record low in terms of babies what will be next year. 245 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: It's the lowest number of babies born since they started 246 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: keeping data. Again, they do this fairly regularly, and the 247 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: now current number of live births per mom is what 248 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: I just came across it. It's incredibly low. It's well 249 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: below sustainable rate and will drop very very fast there 250 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: and now at I think it was one point one 251 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: point one five, it's about half. Really, it's tired than 252 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was, honestly, but has a birth rate 253 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: to sustain your population and you don't allow immigration. 254 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Right, what the hell? I realize. I'm easily amazed, But 255 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: I want to go back to that figure. If your 256 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: birth rate dropped by five point seven percent in a decade, 257 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: that would be a huge story. 258 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: It dropped in a year, yeah, I know, it's absolutely incredible. 259 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of fallout from this, like, for instance, 260 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: the number of vacant homes that they have in Japan. 261 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: There's just lots of houses that are vacant, but there's 262 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: nobody to buy because there's just are enough people and 263 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out what to do with that. 264 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: The number of ikea uninhabited properties that's the term, has 265 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: topped nine million nationwide, with nine hundred thousand of them 266 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: in Tokyo alone, just uninhabited places, and there's nobody that's 267 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: gonna buy them because there's no hope of anybody buying them. 268 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, there's nobody to buy them because there's no body. Yeah, exactly, 269 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm going ahead to Tokyo to do some prime squatting. 270 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down to Shinjuku, squatt in some apartment, 271 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: eat some sushi. 272 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, like I said. 273 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: Fuji, I've never been to Japan obviously, Like I said earlier, 274 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: we get to watch the Japan's gonna be the you 275 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen to the rest of us in 276 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Western society is our birth rates decline to and see 277 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: what happens. 278 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Of course, we allow lots of sometimes not on purpose immigration, 279 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: which is different than a lot of your Asian countries 280 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: that have zero right. 281 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: They're very very racist, uh they actually are. 282 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, So Japan will be a land mass with historical 283 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: sites and no humans. 284 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, the whole country will be like the proverbial Japanese 285 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: soldier hiding out in the jungle after World War Two. 286 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, there are occasionally you'll come across the human 287 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: being and be like, well, hey, what the hell, it's 288 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: a whole country. Tokyo will be, you know, a post 289 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: apocalyptic moonscape or something arm Strong see Armstrong and Ghetti show. 290 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: So I got this new talkbacked feature that we're gonna try, 291 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: and we're we're in the we're in the what do 292 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: they call it, the beta phase of figuring out how 293 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna utilize this on the show or whatever. And 294 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: I threw out the first question, try this out to somebody. 295 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: This is somebody called in and then we record them 296 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: or whatever, because we stopped taking calls years ago for 297 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons that listeners would know. So I 298 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: throw out the question of what do you like about 299 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: the Armstrong and Giddy show. Hey, you could be the 300 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: first call it Hitler, Muslim extremist. 301 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: That's good stuff, So hey, you can be the first. 302 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: So solid, Okay, we don't need to hear twice. So 303 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: so we're off to a good start. And uh, I again, 304 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: do we need to reiterate why we stopped taking calls. 305 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: But apparently this is some more on the question of 306 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: what do you like about the Armstrong and Giddy show? 307 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: You are my favorite people. You make me laugh in 308 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: the morning when I'm taking the train to work. 309 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you for being you. 310 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: I do have to agree. Joe's looks are rough, but 311 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: then again he has as beautiful hair. Why do you lie? 312 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: Is it your greed? 313 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: The best part of Armstrong and Giddy is Katie, and 314 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: when she was gone for a week, that was like 315 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: a void. 316 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. 317 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: You make me laugh, you make me cry, you make 318 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: me mad, But in the end, you make the first 319 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: three or four hours of my day at least a 320 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: good informative. You make these guys. 321 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Have a good one. 322 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: What do I like about the Armstrong and Gutty show. 323 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 4: I like the fact that you don't take calls. 324 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: We'll see how. 325 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 4: This little experiment goes, but I'm not optimistic. Don't let 326 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: your meat. 327 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: Loaf, don't let your hot dogs dand don't let your wristwatch. Okay, 328 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: that made me incredibly uncomfortable? Me too, Why why did 329 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: that make me thinky? 330 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: Did you ask that question? All right, we have tomorrow 331 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: you you come up with the question, Yeah, we'll try 332 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: it again. 333 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: Better than that. 334 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: So I just I wanted something I knew people to 335 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: respond to to get the first one. So this was 336 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: in the New York Times the other day. It was 337 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: an opinion piece, but a lot of fact built into it. 338 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: The question was American men are getting worse at maintaining friendships. 339 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: I think have I actually heard this before? Just heard 340 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: people in real life mention it to me? Anyway, American 341 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: men are getting worse at maintaining friendships. Is it a 342 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: lack of time or energy or is it something else? 343 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: And then getting into some of the details that this 344 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: person writes, what I didn't know is that American men 345 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: are getting significantly worse at friendship. A study in twenty 346 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: twenty four by the Survey Center on American Life found 347 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: that only a quarter of men reported having six or 348 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: more close friends. That seems like a lot to me. 349 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: Pulling a similar question in nineteen ninety, Gallup had put 350 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: this figure at over half of men had six or 351 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: more close friends. The same Survey Center found that seventeen 352 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: percent of men had zero close friends. That was a 353 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: fivefold increase from nineteen ninety, the zero crowd went from well, 354 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: it increased five times. Yeah, probably roughly three to seventeen. 355 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: It's awful. I agree, six seems like a lot, but yeah, 356 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: zero is too few. 357 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: The lack of intimacy among male friends may seem normal 358 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: because it's what we're accustomed to, but it isn't. Until 359 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the twentieth century, it was not uncommon for men in 360 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: this country to openly hold hands, sit on each other's 361 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: lapse in public party any. 362 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: Wait, whoa whoa, Wait a minute, Yeah, that happened all 363 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: the time. Wait a minute. 364 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe this. Until the twentieth century, 365 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: it was not uncommon for men in this country to 366 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: openly hold hands, sit on each other laps in public parts, 367 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: and write each other passionate, platonic love letters. You know 368 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: my desire to befriend you is everlasting, Abraham Lincoln. I 369 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: have wrote to his friend Joshua Speed and blah blah blah. 370 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: Herman Melville, who wrote Moby Dick, once wrote to yes, Katie, 371 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: you already have a comment. I can tell. 372 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, if this is true, you guys 373 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 5: should bring that back each other's thing. I've ever heard 374 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 5: in my life. 375 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: Kill me? 376 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so is it? Herman? Melville once wrote 377 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: to Daniel Hawthorne, what's he famous for? Red badge of courage? 378 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Not Stephen Crane? What Hawthorne? Anyway? The scarlet letter might 379 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: be Crane, two famous authors from the eighteen hundreds. Melville 380 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: wrote to Hawthorne that Hawthorne's heart beat in my ribs 381 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: and mine in yours, and described their friendship as an 382 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: friendship as an infinite fraternity of feeling. That is not 383 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: the sort of thing I would write to a friend 384 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: of the yod you see that game last night would 385 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: be closer to it. Can I sit on your lap 386 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: in the park? 387 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: Hey, when we played golf, that was an infinite what 388 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: did you say? 389 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: Fraternity of feeling? 390 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? Today, dude, it was fun. Thanks for writing. 391 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I gotta know this, Katie. Who's Nathaniel Hawthorne? What did 392 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: he write? Scarlet letter? Scarlettletter? Joe's right congratulates got it? Yes, 393 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: today we may see these gestures as homo erotic, but 394 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: men at the time, gay and straight talk to one 395 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: another in this way. I don't know that we have 396 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: to go back to holding hands as we walk down 397 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: the street are sitting on each other's laps. But I 398 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: don't know. You don't even see grown women sitting on 399 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: each other's laps, So it's not a male thing. What 400 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: the hell is that? 401 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: Is there a lack of seating back in the day? 402 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: Was that what was going on? 403 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 5: You absolutely do see women sitting on each other's laps, 404 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: you do? 405 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah all the time? Are not bars concerts? Okay? Absolutely? 406 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: If there's only one share? Did they ever actidently kiss? Yes? 407 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: All the time. It's crazy how it happened. Yes, Okay, Well, 408 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: so I guess I'm wrong about that, all right, So 409 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: it's kill don't know if that's got much to do 410 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: with the friendship thing. Something tells me. 411 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: There's a greater point here beyond the lap sitting and 412 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: handholding though, right. 413 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, so for the I have a bunch of questions. 414 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Define good friend? Close friend? I feel like I need 415 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: a definition on that. Oh, I think we all have 416 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: one in our heads, don't we. Beyond a companion, you 417 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: do stuff with. 418 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: You, You talk about your lives and ups and downs 419 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: in a sincere way. If you have to call on 420 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: them to help you, even if it is inconvenient, expensive, 421 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: or difficult. They'll come through for you. 422 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, how often you need to talk to them 423 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: to All of that. 424 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: Depends, I suppose, you know. It's it's funny this should 425 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: come up. I missed the last hour of the show 426 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: yesterday an unexcused absence, which will go on my permanent record. 427 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: But I had the opportunity to reconnect with a friend 428 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: who I had not seen in far too long, and 429 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: because of his travel schedule and all, and I had 430 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: to like go where he was. That something had to give, 431 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: and so I missed an hour of the show, which 432 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: I never would have done for years and years and years. 433 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: But I because partly because I'm a little obsessive about 434 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: this job, I have not prioritized friendships, and it has 435 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: left me a less happy person. So it's funny that 436 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: this should come up today. 437 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that's what people are doing? Men are 438 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: doing they're working too much. 439 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: Have have friends or other. Entertainment is always there. It's the 440 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: same thing that keeps guys from going out and finding 441 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: a girlfriend and you know, actually having a delightful physics. 442 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: The emulations. They're so entertained, they're on their couch, they 443 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: don't bother. 444 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's That's kind of where I was going, 445 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: is just thinking it's probably the same phenomenon of not 446 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: needing to date or have sex. I mean, if you 447 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: can overcome the strongest desire that all beasts have to 448 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: have sex, then you can certainly give up, you know, 449 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: hanging out with another dude now and talking. Yeah, right, 450 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: for whatever it is that you're doing instead, which I 451 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: assume is I don't know, video games, porn, hanging out. 452 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what it. 453 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: Is, but yeah, porn, video games. I think it all 454 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: is under the awful, evil umbrella of disconnectedness. I've got 455 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: another big fat article that I've got in my queue 456 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: to read about. You know that topic again. I mean, 457 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: it's just undeniably at the root of so much that's 458 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: going on right now in human society, particularly the Western world. Again, 459 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: and we've made this point many times. Forgive us if 460 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: you've heard it before, but the idea that catastrophic plunges 461 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: in the birth rate are merely interesting is that would 462 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: not apply if there were any beast on Earth that 463 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: had a catastrophic drop in it's firth off. 464 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Remember when riientists would be obsessed with it. Remember we 465 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: were getting so many news stories about bees because bees 466 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: might go away? How about human beings going away? That 467 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: seems like a big bees jack. 468 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I stupid. I ashamed of that I had. 469 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: I had my guard up a little bit and still 470 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: do for it just being a there's something wrong with 471 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: men story When it's Homo sapiens. Clearly there's something wrong 472 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: with human beings. We're not getting together at all. So 473 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: turning to turn it into a why why are men 474 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: so worried about sitting, you know, being seen holding hands 475 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: that they don't have friends anymore? I just I feel 476 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: like they're going for an angle there. 477 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a particularly New York Times guy. He's 478 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: really ought to be able to hold hands and maybe 479 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: kiss and stuff like that, because you know, traditional masculinity 480 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: is stupid. It had a bit of a feel field. 481 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: And that's why you don't have friends anymore, because you're 482 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: too homophobic. 483 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah right, somehow that isn't it. 484 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I noticed that. It's different than 485 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: it was decades ago, like nineteen ninety. I was a 486 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: twenty five year old in nineteen ninety, so I don't know. 487 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: It's either a crisis or it's not well. But again, 488 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: there is a crisis that people in general don't hang 489 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: out with other people period, So don't try to make 490 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: it a there's something wrong with men's story. 491 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: No, in my mind, no, no, I think it's the 492 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: canary and the coal mine or the owl or something. 493 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. But because women have so much stronger, 494 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: generally speaking, so much stronger and urge to build coalitions 495 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: and social groups than men do, and it's different. I 496 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: think you're seeing it first among men, especially because and 497 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: it's funny we're talking about this in the context of 498 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party trying to understand why they've lost young 499 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: men and how masculinity and traditional roles have been demonized, 500 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: especially on the progressive left. Yeah, the things that brought 501 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: men together traditionally for years and years. And it's funny 502 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: the New York Times should suddenly be enamored with traditional 503 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: male roles and the way males acted. A lot of 504 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: that's gone. 505 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. One note before we take a break is just 506 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking at the gym, because everybody where is this. 507 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure this is true for you, Katie, the gym 508 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: you go to, but everybody wears earbuds, So everybody's got earbuds. 509 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: In and I go to the gym every single day, 510 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: and I was just sitting there with my earbuds listening 511 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: to a podcast, sitting there in between sets. The other 512 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: day thinking I have been going to the same gym 513 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: with the same people, oftentimes for what nine months now, 514 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody's name. I've never spoken a word 515 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: to any of these people. You go back pre wearing earpieces. 516 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: I think I would know everybody in here just because 517 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't help it. I mean you would. You couldn't 518 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: help being in the same room with all those people 519 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: in silence, or maybe with a with a jam box 520 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: playing in the corner that you wouldn't have started up 521 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: hot today. And yeah, I know, I was supposed to 522 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: go golfing with some friends, but I got and they've 523 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: got conversations starts now, you know, and something happens. Yeah, 524 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: and you get to know her and everybody know, but 525 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: now nobody. I have never said a word to a 526 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: single person at my gym. Maybe are you dog? 527 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: The other day and our neighbor came out with her 528 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: dog and I shouted a happy greeting, intending to converse 529 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: that she had the earbuds going, and yeah, yeah, yeah. 530 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Which I do all the time. I'm not faulting her, no, no, no, yeah, 531 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: it works both ways. But anytime I tried to say 532 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: something like are you done here or whatever, so they 533 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: always got to pause their device and what was that? 534 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: So that might have something to do with it. 535 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 6: Activists, including Greta Tumberg, the environmental activist, arrived at a 536 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 6: port in Israel after they were detained by Israel's navy 537 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 6: on board and aid ship found for Gaza. The activists 538 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 6: group called the Freedom Flotilla Coalition, claims that the israelis 539 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 6: quote unlawfully boarded their ship, which was full of baby 540 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 6: formula and medical supplies, and quote confiscated the goods. Israel 541 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 6: calls the ship and its passengers a quote selfie yacht, 542 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 6: and they said the mission's sole purpose was publicity. Israel 543 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 6: plans to quickly deport the detained activists back to their 544 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 6: home countries. 545 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Israel also claims that the. 546 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: Aid that wasn't quote consumed by the celebrities unquote will 547 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 6: be sent to Gaza through humanitarian channels. 548 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: That's good trolling right there by. 549 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: The idf oh, the selfie yacht. It is obviously such 550 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: a stunt because it's such a dent in, you know, 551 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: in the whole thing. And this doesn't get reported a lot, 552 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: But there have been millions of meals provided they're in Gaza, 553 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: millions some of which are stolen by Hamas, but most 554 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: of them are millions over the last several weeks. 555 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had less than a single truckload of AID. 556 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: More than twelve hundred AID trucks have entered Gaza from 557 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: Israel within the past two weeks, et cetera. I think 558 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: the selfie yacht is a good name for it. I 559 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: love that they made these people watch October seventh footage 560 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: as condition of their release the Freedom Flotilla. Do you 561 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: think Hamas wants freedom? 562 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: You morons? 563 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: This is all wrong. 564 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right. Well, so that was back when she 565 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: was more of a child. You can't blame her really 566 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: for the you know, the lefty world elevated her to 567 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: Pope's status when she was a child. You know, that 568 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: would get to your that would go to your head. 569 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: You would start to think, well, people really care what 570 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: I think about stuff? 571 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: She's unhinged, poor kid. 572 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: Well it was that whole because she's a child. That 573 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: makes it more true. Thing about climate change, there for 574 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee. Soda fans I say pop, so 575 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: I'll say pop. Pop fans are freaking out over the 576 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: limited return of the beloved, beloved Coca Cola flavor. I 577 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: didn't know this was so beloved. Diet cherry coke is 578 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: making a comeback. Anybody excited about that? 579 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: No, I consume that way back in the day, but 580 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: it sounds disgusting to me. 581 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: Now, you don't drink pop. Oh, you're better than us. 582 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't drink pop either, correct, Yes, yes, Katie, do 583 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: you drink pop rarely? 584 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 5: But everything everything that cherry flavored tastes like cough syrup 585 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: to me. 586 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: That manufactured cherry flavor. I can't do it different red fruit. 587 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: But did you know this is My son said this 588 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: can't be true. He wanted a strawberry milkshake the other day. 589 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: We were at In and Out and he says, they 590 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: have the best strawberry milkshakes. And I said, you know, 591 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: I've never had a strawberry milkshake, which added to the 592 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: list of things Jack is never which I couldn't believe. 593 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: And I know I've never had a story. It always 594 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: sounded gross to me. But you know, I'm starting to 595 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: think it might be delicious. This is this. I think 596 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: about this because my son, Henry, the thirteen year old, 597 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: had his first Ham sandwich the other day and loved it. 598 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: It's not because I haven't like allowed him. I've been 599 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: trying to encourage that for years, but he just thought 600 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Ham sounded awful. For some reason. He finally tried Ham 601 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: and he said, Dad, Ham is fantastic. I said, yes, yes, yes, welcome. 602 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: So he loves the Ham sandwich. And I'll bet in 603 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: the last week I'm not exaggerating. I'd be shocked if 604 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't had twenty Ham sandwiches in the last week, 605 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: two or three a day. 606 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: Wow. 607 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a guy. I had my first 608 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: BLT when I was forty five, and I remember coming 609 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: on the air the next day and saying, the belt 610 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: is amazing. I've never had one before. 611 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: Have you checked out? 612 00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 613 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: A sun that or falling in love those are kind 614 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: of nice too. Puppy is a nice Puppy. 615 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: Working with you is so great, Jack, because every day 616 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 5: it's like. 617 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: Really, wow, I know, well, but. 618 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: I have such wonders that await me. You know, other 619 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: people have to I don't know, travel to BALI to 620 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: have some new experience. All I got to do is apple, bacon, 621 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: lettuce and tomato sandwich. 622 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: Or try one of the three most popular flavors of 623 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: milkshake hunters. 624 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: Right now, I've never had a strawberry milkshake. I should 625 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: try that. They're really good, That's what everybody says. 626 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 627 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: They always sound it gross to me. And whenever you're 628 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: offered one, there's also a chocolate or vanilla. 629 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: But why the strawberry is a delightful berry universally enjoyed. 630 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: But there's always a chocolate or vanilla option there, and 631 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: I know I love that, So I just figured why 632 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: I risk it? 633 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: There you go? 634 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 5: Well, when you go to In and Out, try the 635 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 5: Neapolitan shake they mix all three? 636 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: Is that one part of the secret menu. I don't 637 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: like the secret menu thing. I don't. I don't like 638 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: that at all. That for some reason that bothers me. 639 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Get over it. Try it elitism or something.