1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton, Yes, Saron Burnett, you know what's ridiculous. I'll 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: tell you it's ridiculous. Tell me. Yeah, look out the 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Alaskan wood frog. Did you know that it can hold 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: its p for eight months? I did know that. I 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: used to date an Alaskian tree frog. I can tell 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: the smell, but the the pea geefs that alive. All 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: it hibernates the microbes in it, recite the microbes, recycle 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the nitrogen or whatever. Yeah, like I do. This is 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: like a recent study, right, this was like I just 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: went out and did the science on it. I can think. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I just saw the headlines about it. I've been doing science. 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: I'm impressed. Yeah, you have so many hobbies. Click on 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: some of my links. I will, and I'll read your 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: CV and read about your ex girlfriend the Alaskan p frog. Well, 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: I got one for you. How about a story of 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: some mid century adventurers who get a Buddhist monk drunk 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: so they can steal a yeti's hand from a mon 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: starry and then asked Jimmy Stewart to help them smuggle 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: it out of the country. Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, the actor, Oh, 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: the actor, yeah, not the race car driver. This is 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: ridiculous crime of podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heist 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: and cons. It's always murder free and ridiculous. Elizabeth, I 24 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: promised you a story about a yetti hand. Yes, what 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: do you know about the yettie like or what I 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: prefer to call them, the abominable snowman. I know a lot. 27 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Oh cool, that will make don't But I'll tell you 28 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: what I do know. My cousin Ben, when he was 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: a little boy, he made up a song about the 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: abomb almost snowman. Okay, do you remember any even? Oh? 31 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I do, because he's sang it to me all the time. 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: It was very like show tuny. So imagine a little 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: like five year old singing this, Um, you've been hit 34 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: by the bombable snowman. He's gonna get you. He's gonna 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: get you. It's gonna get snowman. You've been hit by snowman. 36 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna get you. He's gonna get you. That's got legs. 37 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Oh I love it legs, diamond baby. Yeah, So that's 38 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: what I know. Um, I know that he lives in 39 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: the frozen North. I think when I think of the 40 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: abominable snowman, First of all, that's a that's a lot 41 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: to go through in my mouth. Abominable. Yeah, it's very British. 42 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: But I just see like a like a cartoon. Oh yeah, 43 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: do you like do you see like the bugs bunny 44 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: big talk talk dag edge for Yeah, that's that's all 45 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: I see. And when I go to sleep at night. Okay, 46 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: well that would picture the abominable snowman. It's gonna get you. 47 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna get you every time I say that, Just 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: picture that. Okay. So also you'll hear me say the 49 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Yetti that's his home court name. That's what the locals call. 50 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: I like that way better? Why it sounds better? What's 51 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: easier to say that? There's that, And then it's been 52 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: kind of ruined by the association with Yettie coolers. Oh 53 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: good point. That's your South showing. It's right, pull up 54 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: your your South is showing. I know. Careful now, So 55 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: the term abominable snowman, which you're right is a mouthful, 56 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: was first coined in Now there was this British dude, um, 57 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Charles Howard Berry, and he was leading the 58 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: British Mount Everest Reconnaissance expedition, and he later wrote a 59 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: book about it, and he called it the Mount Ever 60 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: the reconnaissance just very imaginative, very British spot. In his 61 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: book he wrote about how he'd seen a trail of 62 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: footprints that he's spotted that were a quote, were probably 63 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: caused by a large, loping gray wolf, which in the 64 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: soft snow formed a double tracks rather like those of 65 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a barefooted man. Then he later went on and commented 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: about he'd been talking to the expeditions sherpas, the guides 67 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: who carry all the luggage, and who are the locals 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: from Nepal and Tibet, and one of them quote volunteered 69 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: that the tracks must be that of the wild man 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: of the snows, to which they gave him the name 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Mito kung Me. Now the words are Tibetan. The Mito 72 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: it means man bear and kung me means snowman. So 73 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: together man bear snowman. When I heard that, it reminded 74 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: me of like some like nicknames some of my friends have. 75 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Now you were in the punk rock community growing up, 76 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: I imagine you knew a bunch of people with odd nicknames. 77 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: Do you remember any of these odd nicknames? And a 78 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: lot of people I knew had like their government names 79 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: and then they use their band name as their last name. 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: And that was a lot of times if they were 81 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: like a bunch of Kevin's, like you know Kevin seconds, right, 82 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: So that's how you sort of determine which one is which. 83 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we're all the ones. Uh. I can't 84 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: say any of them on the air. Actually, I'm realizing 85 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: almost every single one of them would offend somebody. So 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: we'll just get past nicknames. And to go back to 87 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: the Abominable Snowman. And how did he get his nickname? Well, 88 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: it turns out there was a Canadian involved, always a 89 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: Canadian involved. Now this Canadian he ended up talking to 90 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the same sharp as importers from Howard Berry's everst Reconnaissance expedition, 91 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: and they told this dude, this uh Harry Newman that 92 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: the Meto kongby which they then kind of didn't really 93 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: cause him to but what they told him, he made 94 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the mistake of mistranslating it as dirty or filthy snowman. 95 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: Wait what they told the Canadian or what? Because he's 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: talking to the porters and that they've already been telling 97 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: the Englishman, so now they start telling the Canadian, who's 98 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: like down by the Bay Way. They started talking about 99 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: how he has this powerful smell, and so he thinks 100 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: that mito kongmi means like dirty or filthy snowman. Yeah, exactly. 101 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: So he just gets in his head he doesn't quite 102 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: understand that it's man bear snowman, so him it's dirty 103 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: filthy snowman, which he focuses on this powerful odor, and 104 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: that leads him to the term abominable. So first he 105 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: lengthens it because you know it's back. Then he's like 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: he starts calling this the abominably smelling snowman. All right. 107 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: This eventually gets short to abominable snowman, and English papers 108 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: run with this, and this becomes his nickname all around 109 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: the world in the nineteen twenties, right, so there becomes 110 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: this craze. People are like, oh, I gotta hear about 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: this abominable snowman. He's like the cold weather Bigfoot. They 112 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: have an analogue already. So it's just like the Western 113 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: imagination is just imagining like, oh, like kind of like 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the snow leopard of cryptids. Right, It's like, oh, you've 115 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: got the big Foot and this is like the snow Bigfoot. 116 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: People are just their imaginations are tickled. But this has 117 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: gone through history, I mean through all of time where 118 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: most civil zations have like the sort of uh man 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: beast that that meeting point between civilization and the wild, 120 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: and they assign some sort of creature that expresses that 121 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: there's often a bear too. The whole idea of being 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: a man bear is like, oh, totally fits. In Europe 123 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: has this, Central Asia has this. So in there's another 124 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: brit in the area. This time it's a British photographer 125 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and he's there with the Royal Geographical Society and he 126 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: says that he notices in India, this time on the 127 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: very big Zemu Glacier, that there is also a man bear. 128 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: So these reports amongst the British adventurers who are basically 129 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: trekking around Nepaul, Tibet in northern India, they start all 130 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: seeing this man bear, right, nobody gets conclusive evidence. But 131 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: another British mountaineer, Bill Tilman, he tracks down a trail 132 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: of Yeti footprints, right, so people are calling into the snow. 133 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: He wasn't able to find the Yetie. You just saw them. 134 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: He tracks them. He realized we have a series of footprints. 135 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Who gets all excited. I don't know if he may 136 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: have done like a plaster cast the but anyway, he 137 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: sees these and he gets all excited. But then the 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: World War comes along, So now we have an inter Yeah, right, 139 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: no more YETI sightings well for until basically on the 140 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: other side of the war. So World War two occurs. 141 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: But then a bunch of stuff happens up in the 142 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Himalayan region. Now do you remember all some of the 143 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: stuff of the late forties? Want you so, I'm not 144 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: that old? Do you remember that? Do you remember you 145 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: were there? So? What do you remember the newspapers when 146 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: you were a girl? Now, India at this time gains 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: independence from England, and Pakistan gains it's statehood as well, 148 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: and the partition. China comes out of a revolution, and 149 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: they also because first they get basically they get free 150 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: of the British and then they you know, have the 151 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: whole problem with their imperial system. And then they fight 152 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a civil war in the middle of World War two 153 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: and they come out of it. Now, the People's Republic 154 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: of China, right to bet me while it gets annexed 155 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: by China as a armor possession that dates back to 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: the Yellow Emperor in two thousand BC. Right, the whole 157 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: area is basically switching around who is who and who 158 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: gets called what? Right, add back into this British and 159 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: Canadian explorers. So the fifties opens back up and these 160 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: people come flooding in to go see the abominable snowman. 161 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Right now, at this time, the giant cryptid hunt is 162 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: actually considered kind of a scientific um legitimate scientific concern, 163 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: right because in this area there used to be like 164 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: creatures of a similar size. Right, So Yale's alumni magazine 165 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: route about the time about the hunt for giant cryptids 166 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: in the Himalayan region that quote, some once legendary animals 167 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: of the remote Indian Nepalese Tibetan highlands did in fact exist. 168 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: In reality, the giant panda, for one, had enjoyed a 169 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: quasi mythological existence before the twentieth century arrived. So back 170 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, searching out another giant hypothetical Himalayan 171 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: creature didn't seem like such a stretch. This is just 172 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: a give all this a patina of respectability. Before we 173 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: dive into the ridiculous crimes at all. I want to 174 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: see a giant panda. Oh yeah, well you bigger than 175 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: the normal pan. Yeah, it's like super bear sized. Yeah, 176 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: but like it's not extinct or anything. I believe the 177 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: giant panda is extinct. Yeah, I believe the one they're 178 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: just preferring to. We still have a one that I 179 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: believe is called the giant panda. But I don't think 180 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: that they're talking. I don't. That's what I want. It's 181 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: like the mega fauna Arab back when you had like 182 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: wear bears. Yeah, exactly, I love. I love outsized animals. 183 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Apparently there was more oxygen in the atmosphere so creatures 184 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: could get bigger. This is what I've been told. I 185 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: do not know this. I just what I've been till 186 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: I find it interesting myself. So skipping back to our 187 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: British it helps when new evidence is discovered. In nine 188 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: yet again it's a British mountaineer. This time it's a 189 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: man named Eric Shipton, and he finds a footprint that 190 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: was thirteen inches long and eight inches across. Dude snaps 191 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: a photo of it. Right next year, a Swiss expedition 192 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: finds tracks of a yettie. They also snapped photos. In 193 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: the year after that, nineteen three, once again British mountaineer, 194 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: this time John Hunt. He gets in on the action. 195 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: The British tabloids. They go, hey, man, we want some 196 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: of this, so they come in. In nineteen fifty four, 197 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail sends an expedition to the Himalayas to 198 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: hunt for abominable snowmen. The tabloid paid three hundred mountaineers, 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: scientists and sherpas to go marching off into the glaciers 200 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: and mountains and come back with evidence of the yettie. 201 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: Do you know how expensive that must have been. Everybody's 202 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: all fired up about this, and this is like something 203 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: that has been tickling people's imaginations for a while. So 204 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: this has been something where even like surprise, surprise, Adolph 205 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Hitler got in on the Yetti hunt back when he 206 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: had power, and so like the British or picking up 207 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: basically on the same idea of like what Hitler dumb, 208 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: which is, take a bunch of old texts and myths 209 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: and legends of the area, mistranslate them, use them for 210 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: your own purposes, and then decide this will go and 211 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: prove something. For Hitler, it was proving that the Arians 212 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: or the Master race and connected to India and the 213 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: past of Tibet. For the Bridge, it's the missing link. 214 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: They're much more into the like you know, Royal British 215 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Reyal society of at all. Right, so they're deciding they 216 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: just need more evidence. And so the Daily Mail is like, oh, 217 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: we got you scientists. We're gonna pay for it, and 218 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna get what Hitler couldn't find. Right now, 219 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: this expedition that they go out, they find yet more footprints, 220 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: they get some hair, right, but the hair apparently is 221 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: from a scalp of a yettie. That so the claims 222 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: are like, we didn't actually find this like on like 223 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: leaves or anything that somebody else said this was yetting 224 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: and we just cut some hair off a bit. If 225 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm one of those mountaineers, I one pent go out 226 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: like right behind the chalet where they're all departing from, 227 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: and I cut some of my hair off, come back 228 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: and then I get it all kind of damaged, and 229 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, I like run around. Then I come back like, 230 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys, he was just here. Look, 231 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: And then I was like pay up Daily Mail and 232 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: I've been operating under a fake name and then I'm 233 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: gone in the night. Well keep that that energy, because 234 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: that help this story, I'll tell you that much. So 235 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: this yetti sculp that they've cut it from it was 236 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: from the Pine Boche Monastery, which will also come back 237 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: into this story. Right. So this hair that the Daily 238 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Mail pays for it fires up the British and the 239 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Western imaginations even more because now they have something more 240 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: than footprints. They have actual physical evidence, even though it's 241 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: just hair. Right, So in nine America and jump into it. Now, 242 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: Americans are going to do things a little different. So 243 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: when they come for the cryptic hunt of the Abominable Snowman, 244 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: they start with a strongly worded memo and supported the 245 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: government of Nepal. The memos from the U. S. State Department, 246 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: and it determines that the Abominable Snowman could only be 247 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: killed in self defense. Like that, right, I thought you would. 248 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: But the reason why it is because of communism. Well, 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: and I love a strongly worded memo, I know you do. 250 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: So they want to discourage yetti hunts. But this is 251 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: because only because of their concerns about communism. They do 252 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: not care about the Yetti. They're just using the YETI 253 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: for their like red scare propaganda. So they basically want 254 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: to keep the Nepalese on their side. So they go, look, 255 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: we'll respect your sovereignty. And you got all these Brits 256 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: and English speakers coming in and rushing around. None of 257 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: them are allowed to kill a Yetti on on our terms. 258 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: And too the Nepal's like, oh, dope, thank you man, 259 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: because you know, people don't really respect us. They're like, yeah, 260 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: we got you, son. So this idea was also to 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of foster an ally ship with Nepal. They're like, oh, 262 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: because otherwise they have China and Russia right there, going 263 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: you know what, you should really turn red, which you know, 264 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: this did not work. They eventually did turn This is 265 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: like in the middle of the Great Leap Forward, right yeah, yeah, 266 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. So we have like a lot of initiatives 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: and um communist communist enthusiasm at the time. Right. So 268 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: the final aspect of this YETI memo from the U. 269 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: S State Department. It also stipulated that any future YETTI 270 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: expeditions would have to pay a fee of five thousand 271 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: rupees to the Nepalese for the privilege of trekking into 272 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the Himalaias. So now that they have also a little 273 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: push for capitalism, like let's build a little industry, you know, 274 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: maybe get some tour guides going, right, and then Nepauls like, 275 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, sure, and American thinks like this will be good, 276 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: that will this will keep you on our basically come 277 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: in and they're like they have no what authority do 278 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: they have to say, pay them five thousand rupees? None? 279 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Did you are America? That's the party they have. They 280 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: have won World War two, that's what they're doing. So 281 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: the temple is at the Nepali village of Pangboche. They 282 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: have the same No, it's basically the temple of Pongboche, right, 283 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: and this is at the base of Mount Everest, like 284 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: the base camper today hikers would gather to go and 285 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: climb Everest. That this holy site was actually founded back 286 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century by Lama sanguan Dorji, who had 287 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: flown over the Himalayas and brought Buddhism to the Nepali people. 288 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: Right to this Lama, according to legend, he flies over 289 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: the mountains and he lands in Pangboche and he lands 290 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: with such force he presses his feet into the ground 291 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: and his Interestingly, his footprints are forced into the stone, 292 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: and so they go, wow, it's a miracle. And then 293 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: they found the monastery right there with his footprints get 294 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: pressed into the stone. So footprints are like a big 295 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: deal in the area, right. So the Jetti at the 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: same time take on a very central place in the 297 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: regional stories and the religion because the sherpa and the 298 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Buddhist traditions start to merge, and they use the local 299 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: folklore and legends as a kind of bonding agent, if 300 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: you will. This dude, Lama sanguab Doorgy, he's a recluse 301 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: like a lot of Buddhist monks were and are. He 302 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: decides he wants to go out and meditate in nature, 303 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: and he tries to do this, but all of his 304 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: like you know, new followers, are a little worried about him. 305 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: They haven't really seen someone do it like this, or like, man, 306 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: you gotta eat, you gotta sleep, you gotta stay warm. 307 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: It gets real cold around here, and he's like, no, 308 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: I'll be fine. Turns out the Yetti are also worried 309 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: about him. They start congregating and bringing him food and 310 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: fuel for his fire. So he starts telling stories of 311 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: how the abominable snowman have been visiting him, and they're like, oh, 312 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: it's a miracle. So now the yet He become this 313 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: holy sign of the monastery, and the monastery, you know, 314 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: to celebrate the Yetty. They end up basically keeping a 315 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: Yetti hand there well. And when there was only one 316 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: set of Yeti footprints in the snow, that's when the 317 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Yetty was carrying him. That's exactly you know this story. 318 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: So this monastery with this Yetti hand that they now 319 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: use as a symbol of their past, it becomes a 320 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: holy relic for them. And this Yeti hand will also 321 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: become an attractor of trouble. And I'll tell you all 322 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: about the trouble to come after this short break. So, Elizabeth, 323 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: we're in this monastery Pangboche in the Nepali highlands. Among 324 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: has slammed his feet into the ground after flying over 325 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: the Himalayas, and they decided to build this monastery. And 326 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: now they have this Yeti hand and this Yeti scalp 327 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: that they're keeping there is holy relics to honor the 328 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: time of their founder. You ready for the trouble. It 329 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: starts with an Irish born adventurer turned British explorer named 330 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Peter Byrne. Now this dude, Peter Byrne, He and his 331 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: brother were trekking through the Himalayas and they were on 332 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: the expedition to you guess it, hunt Yettie the Irish 333 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: Burn brothers. They camp near pangbo Cha. They speak with 334 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: the locals. The sherpers are curious about these Irish Burn 335 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: brothers and their hunt for the yetti. They're like, so, 336 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: what's up with y'all. They're like, oh, you know, just 337 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: looking for abominable snowman. Like, yeah, we got a few 338 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: you guys through here all the time. That's cool. You 339 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: guys need need like firewood or anything, like, we could 340 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: do some tours, because you know, they're starting to get 341 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: involved in this idea that the British had been stoking of, 342 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: like you know, just let these people pay you to 343 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: take you around. So they tell the brothers, hey, by 344 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: the way, there's a yettie hand and scalp at the 345 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: nearby monastery if you want to see them. Would that 346 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: could like satisfy your whole curiosity about Abominable Snowmen. The 347 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: burn Brothers like, yo, real, for real, take us there, 348 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: we want to go right now. So they go and 349 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: they find that there really is this yetti hand and 350 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: there is apparently a piece of what looks to be scalp. Right. So, 351 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: the Abominable Snowman, the Yetti, Right, we've just we've determined 352 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: that they did exist. We were talking about before about 353 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: the giant panda. Now, dating back to three hundred thousand 354 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: years ago, there was a giant ape in this area 355 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: and people, you know, science is very familiar with this 356 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: giant ape. It has been proven the bones exist, they 357 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: can find evidence of this creature, and people like to 358 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: make the connection that this creature is the ancestor of 359 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: the Abominable snowmen. Right. So the British are really all 360 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: excited about this, and that's what they want to basically 361 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of prove is this missing link idea, because this 362 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Great Ape could be the ape that was the last 363 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: ape before we get to humanity. That makes sense, okay, 364 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: the missing link. So the scientists are like, you know, 365 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: the Great Ape went extinct. Some of the scientists were like, yeah, 366 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: but what if that didn't happen? Right, So it's like 367 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: very like Owen Wilson Royal Tenant bombs, you know, He's 368 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: like exactly. So this like becomes such a curiosity that 369 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: people like Sir Edmund Hillary, who was the first you know, 370 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: English speaker or you know European to climb Mount Everest, 371 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: he gets dragged into it. People are like, hey, what 372 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: did you see? And he's like, well, you know, me 373 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: and my my budd ten sang Orega. When we were 374 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: doing our thing, we did see some footprints that were 375 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: huge and unexplained. People like, oh, for real, do you 376 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: think that they were like bomba little snowman? And he's like, no, 377 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: I do not, and he just refused. He basically was 378 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: trying to debunk the rumors. I don't need more of you. 379 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Jerk's coming over to this place. I find great because 380 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: you want to go and hunt down some man bear snowman. Right, 381 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: So this kind of tamps down some of the British excitement. 382 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Enter Tom Slick, an American oil man. Is that his 383 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: real last name? That is his real last name, Slick 384 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: the oil Man. He was also nicknamed the King of Wildcatters. Yeah, 385 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: he exactly, there comes back. He was part of that 386 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: big oil boom of the nineteen thirties when the Oklahoma 387 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: and Texas field started really popping off. Right, So he 388 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: gets rich on that era. He decides, you know, I'm 389 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna go fund some expeditions to hunt Yettie. It's n seven, 390 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: I got tons of money, got money to burn. Let's 391 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: still get us go find us a foreign bigfoot. Right, 392 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: So he goes over and he wants to like get 393 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: on this missing link half a half man like excitement, 394 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: but the reason for him is less about the fossil 395 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: record and more about medicine, medicine. He's convinced if you 396 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: can find this person, this half man half based, that 397 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: you can synthesize medicines that would be good for humanity. 398 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: I don't get it myself, but he's like if I 399 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: don't know, every time I'd read about it, and he's like, yeah, 400 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, so are we thinking like this is like 401 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: some like Asian medicine where like, oh, we need this 402 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: one particular extract from this one particular animal. It will 403 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: be good for like harmony exactly, I do not know, 404 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: but he was convinced, I'm telling you this, this story 405 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: attracts the imagination, and then stokes in and ways, so 406 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: you have like you know, Hitler wants to prove arians. 407 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: Tom Slick wants to find medicine. Like everybody has their 408 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: own agenda and they just can't just leave nature be. 409 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: And you'll see how this plays out. So Tom Slicks like, hey, 410 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: Burn brothers, you guys British adventurer, Irish born explorers, how 411 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: about you come in and work for me, like you 412 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: got money. He's like, oll, brother, you don't even know, 413 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: Like alright, bet. So they link up in the Himalayas 414 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: and they go trekking around together, Slick and Burn, and 415 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: they do like basically the Nepalese uh, I don't know, 416 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: like grand tour right and there, and they split up 417 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: at one point they have this this mass expedition and 418 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: they split up and they have there's two and Tom 419 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: Slick goes off in his one direction, Burned goes off 420 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: in another. And now when Burn goes off, he meets 421 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: this Buddhist monk, right, and this Buddhist monks like, hey, 422 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: is that scotch? And he's like, oh, yes, it is 423 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: a bottle of scotch. Walking around with well, I s 424 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: like drinking enjoying a drink. At the end, of the day, right, 425 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, a bottle of open exactly, you know, 426 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: rolls and so burns like, yeah, man, it is and 427 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: then he relays this story. All right, you're ready, and 428 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: I quote he likes scotch, this old man. And one 429 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: evening while we were sitting there having a drink and talking, 430 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: he said to me, well, he whispered. He said, you know, 431 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: up in the temple we have a hand. And he 432 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: said would you like to see it? And I said yes, 433 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: So we went back up to the temple. We went 434 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: into the top part of the temple and he showed 435 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: me this hand about the size of a human hand, 436 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: cut off at the wrist. I considered very significant, and 437 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: I took some pictures of it immediately, some flash pictures. 438 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I asked the man, of course, could I have it? 439 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: And he said no. He said it must never leave 440 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: the temple here. If it leaves the temple, various calamities 441 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: will befallow the temple in the community and so on. 442 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: I asked him if I could have a part of it, 443 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: and he said no. Start with, if someone says, hey, 444 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: you want to come see a hand, I'm not going 445 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: with you. I got insisted at the top of the building, 446 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: tell me about it. And then it's like he shows it. 447 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Obviously it's an important thing. Can I have it? First question? 448 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: What is wrong with you know? Well, can have a 449 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: piece of it. So I'm gonna go to people's homes 450 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: and that's a beautiful painting. Can I have it? No, 451 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: cut me off, a little chick. I'm in the corner 452 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: of a part. Nobody looks at God. No, not with 453 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the artist signature other corn. So, now that he's satisfied 454 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: that this is the real deal, he sends a runner 455 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: to go and link up with the Tom Slick expedition. 456 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Tom Slicks sends back a telegram and he's like, dude, 457 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: this you gotta get it. Get that hand come to 458 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: London and the guy's like, uh, you know, Burns like, man, 459 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I I can't. It's a it's a holy relic, you know. 460 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: They keep it in like under lock and key. There's 461 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: no way. I tried offering him a money, right, And 462 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: now guys like Tom Slicks not having it right. And 463 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: he's like, no, seriously, I the monastery that these monks, 464 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: they they're convinced the whole town will suffer if I 465 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: take this hand, right, So Tom Slicks like, okay, I 466 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: don't care. I want that hand, right. So he's like, 467 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: here's here's the plan. Come back to London. We're gonna 468 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: make a better plan and then we'll go back and 469 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: get that hand. So Burns like, all right, bet, I'll 470 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: meet you in London. So they meet up in London, right, 471 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: And the men meet at this restaurant, the Regent's Park Zoo, 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: and the joining them is Dr Osmond Hill. This is 473 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: dude as a professor who basically spends his time at 474 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: the zoo dissecting animals and studying them. So he's like, 475 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: all I need is just a piece and I can 476 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: tell you what this is. And they're like, okay, professor. 477 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: So as the men are eating, were they were they 478 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: eating bush meat? I don't know. I wanted I looked 479 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: to see what they were eating. No mentions of bush meat. 480 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: That was so disappointed. Is the restaurant Is it at 481 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: the zoo? The restaurant at the Regent's Park Zoo, And 482 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: it's like an upscale restaurant because this is an upscale 483 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: thing at the time people, you know, like a zoo 484 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: is like peacock and I don't know if there's serving 485 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: like peacock tongue and like things like that. I don't 486 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: think so. I think they weren't serving like zoo animals exactly, 487 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: really fresh bush meat. Burns like, okay, sitting there and 488 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, he's got this American oil man 489 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: and he's got this old professor Dr Osmond Hill, right, 490 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: and then the professor has been like, you know, I 491 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: just need a little piece of it. I can study it. 492 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Just give me some of the specimens, just break me 493 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: off some right. So here's what Burns ended up recounting 494 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: later of his conversation. He said, we were having lunch 495 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: Tom Slick, myself Dr Osmond Hill, and the subject of 496 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: the hand came up. Doctor Hill said you've got to 497 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: get the hand, And Hill, who was a brilliant scientist, 498 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: reached down under the table and pulled out a brown 499 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: paper sack and he said, there you are. He emptied 500 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: the bag onto the dinner table. A human hand fell out. 501 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: He's rocking around with a human hand in a paper bag. Well, 502 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: if so if I said, I have to have the hand. 503 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: And this guy reaches under the table, whoa, whoa there 504 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: putty and then comes out with a paper bag and 505 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: he's like, I'll trade your hand for hand. What do 506 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: you got hand? So that everyone's like now staring at 507 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: this human hand on their dinner table, and the doctors like, 508 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: my point is we could replace the yetti hand with 509 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: this human one, that nasty little piece of work. And 510 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: Professor Hill tell Burn, He's like, look, take the hand. 511 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Just take this with you to Nepaul. Replace one of 512 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: the Yeti fingers with the human fingers from this desiccated hand. 513 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: It should be fine. They won't even notice. And Burns like, okay, man, 514 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: I'll go back into Paul. He like takes the bag, 515 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: takes the hand, shoves it back in the paper bags, 516 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: like thanks for dinner, and I'm often to Paul right. 517 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: So once again he heads back into Paul. He braves 518 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: the mountain, passes the steep ravines, the glaciers. He gets 519 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: lucky no avalanche sweeps him from the side, because at 520 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: this time people are literally dying from avalanches. It is 521 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: like a wild, dangerous place to be. He's braving all 522 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: of this for this yettie hand. He gets back to Pangboche, 523 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: he says, cool, the monks are still here. Everything's gold, 524 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: and he's like, look, guys, I gotta deal for you. 525 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I'll give you And he starts laying out amounts and 526 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: the monks are like shaking their heads. He's like, how 527 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: about five thousand. He's like, no, how about seven thousand. 528 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: You're like, no, how about nine thousand. They just keep 529 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: shaking their hands. He's like, I'm gonna get this yetti finger. 530 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: So this is the version that Burned first told of 531 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: how he was able to get a yettie finger out 532 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: of the monastery. He would tell many versions of this 533 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: story over the years, but this version that I'm going 534 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: to tell you is what he basically told Tom Slick 535 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: in a letter in nine and um, I want you 536 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: to picture this. You're ready, I'm totally ready. Picture it. Yes, 537 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: imagine a steep Himalayan mountainscape. There's green grass right, but 538 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: there's no trees or above the boreal line. The ice 539 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: and snow aren't far from the village of Pangboche. The monastery. 540 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: It has these white walls. You see these immense prayer 541 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: wheels lined up that you can like spin your hand 542 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: on as you approach the doors of the monastery. Once 543 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: you step inside the monastery, it gets dark. There's a 544 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: strong aroma of incense, decades of incense that's just hanging 545 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: from the walls. Right now. It's quiet, these walls are stoned. 546 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: You don't see any monks milling about. You're up thirteen 547 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: thousand feet above sea level, so even walking for you 548 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: right now is a little bit exhausting, a sickness exactly. 549 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: You're breathing hard, you're getting a little faint with too 550 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: much exertion. But you hear a noise above you, so 551 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: you're like, huh, I guess I gotta go climb up 552 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: to see what that is. You climb on up to 553 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: this upper part of the monastery and you see that 554 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: there's a door. The door to the is open, so 555 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: you you look inside the room and you see there's 556 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: an older monk and with him is the Irish explorer Burn, 557 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: and the two of them are very very drunk. They've 558 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: been pounding scotch and they're deep into the bottle. Now 559 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: the men are laughing, they're speaking to each other in 560 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: broken sentences in each other's languages, and you see that 561 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: Burn isn't as drunk as the Buddhist monk. And then 562 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: the Buddhist monk slumps over and passes out. They're like, oh, man, 563 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: I know it's coming. Next, Burn tosses the rest of 564 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: his drink. He's been faking at this the whole time, 565 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: or perhaps not, you don't know, I mean, maybe he's 566 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: a good drinker, a scoundrel. He stumbles out of the room. 567 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: He sneaks over to the reliquary, a special hidden little 568 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: nook where the monks have been keeping on display the 569 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeti scalp and the Yeti hand for centuries. Now. When 570 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: you catch up to him, you see Burn cut off 571 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: a finger from the Yeti hand. You're like, man, right, 572 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: And you can hear him as if he's recalling for 573 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: himself what he's just done. He starts narrating, and he's telling. 574 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: It's almost if he's telling someone in the future, like, 575 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: let's say, for the program Unsolved Mysteries. Okay, I, Burn says, quote. 576 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: So I cut the finger off, and I replaced it 577 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: with the human finger. It took quite a long time 578 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: to wire the whole thing together and put it all 579 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: back together and put it back in the box. And 580 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: nobody ever knew anything about it, and everybody was actually 581 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: perfectly happy. But he still had their hand, it still 582 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: had its fingers well, not all of them, and he 583 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: wired it like the bailing wire. Yeah, and this wired 584 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: it on so would be there. Yeah. So he then 585 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: he pulls out a bottle of iodine and I like 586 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: to imagine I'm using like a small nail polished brush 587 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: and he paints it with iodine so it matches the 588 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: rest of the desiccated Yetie hand and he's like, not perfect, 589 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: that'll do. That'll foolsome monks in dark light. And then 590 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: he pockets what he's brought with him, the you know, 591 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: little nail nail polished brush and the Yeti finger and 592 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: the scissors and knife he used to cut it off. 593 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: And then you watch as he disappears out and leaves 594 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: the monastery gone, Yetie finger stolen. Right now, Here's how 595 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: he telled Tom Slick on February three nine. He says, quote, 596 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: I shall not go into the details or of how 597 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: we got the thumb the philings of the Pangboche hand. 598 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: The main thing is that we have them, and the 599 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Lamas of the monastery do not know that we have them. 600 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: Because they do not know. It is of the utmost 601 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: importance that there is no news releases on this or 602 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: any publicity. For some time, the Pangboche hand is still complete, 603 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: as far as the Lamas are concerned. It still has 604 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: a thumb and an index proximal PHOILENX. What they do 605 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: not know, and what they must never know, is that 606 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: the thumb and the foulnx at present on the hand 607 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: are human ones, which we switched. So we took the 608 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: thumb and the man. Yeah. Right, He's basically the Indiana 609 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: Jones of Tibet, just going around stealing holy relics, being 610 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: like this belongs in a museum, Like what is up 611 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: with that? By the way, the whole like Indiana Jones arrogance, 612 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: like it always to sound. Even as a kid, I 613 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: was like, museum, Well yeah, just go right to the source, 614 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: like the British museum. What's up with playing Indiana Jones 615 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: to me? No? Not the movie The Rationale. So decades later, 616 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Burn changes his story. Right now, he's like oh, he 617 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: starts to you know, change with the times, and he's like, 618 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to have people be thinking that I 619 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: just stole this, right, It's not cool to be a 620 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: marauding britt anymore. So he starts letting people know, no, no, 621 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: I paid for the stolen finger I gave them ten 622 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: thousand rupees and which he claims was at the time 623 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: a large amount for the community. Now to smuggle this 624 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: stolen finger out of Nepal, that wasn't terribly difficult. He 625 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: gave it to one of the sherpists and he's like, here, 626 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: put this in your bag and just get over the border. 627 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: And he knew that that would be possible because Nepal is, 628 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, as not as militaristic at the time as 629 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: India was. Now. Getting into India, which is where he 630 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: has to get to next, will be the real difficulty. 631 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And the thing is is when he gets to India, 632 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: it's not just that you have to get into India, 633 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: you also have to get out of India. So he's 634 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: got to deal with customs twice and to do that 635 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: his answers up being a Hollywood movie star. Yeah right, 636 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about that when we're back after 637 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: this break. So you've just stolen a YETI finger, not me, 638 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: not you personally, the proverbial you, the colloquial you. So 639 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: you've just stolen hey, yettie finger. You've convinced a sherp 640 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: but to stick it in their bag and get it 641 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: over the Nepalese border. You've now gotten it into India, 642 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: but you're still in possession of a stolen YETI finger 643 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: And this could be like, you know, serious issue because 644 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: the United States government has said, hey, we're fighting communism 645 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: with YETI fingers. Don't take that right, fighting communism but 646 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: not exactly but metaphoric. But you know where I'm going. 647 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: So now Tom Slick is like, man, you got it, 648 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: get it to me. So the issue becomes how do 649 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: we get it to Tom Slick back in England? Right? Well, 650 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: he's like, I got a friend, he'll sort this out. 651 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: I know a guy. I know a guy exactly. He's like, burne, uh, 652 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: you just need to hook up with my friend Kirk Johnson, 653 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: and a friend of his will probably help us get 654 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: this yetti bone to England. That friend Jimmy Stewart. What yeah, 655 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: because Thomp Slick figure that the Hollywood star. You know, 656 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: he would be the perfect mule for a yetti bone 657 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: because who's going to search the luggage of a Hollywood start. 658 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: So he's like, look, link up with my pal Kirk Johnson. 659 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: He'll arrange for you to find Jimmy Stewart. I think 660 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: he's in India. He's on a hunting trip. Of last 661 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I heard he should be done in a Calcutta or Kolkata. Now, So, 662 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart and his wife Gloria were indeed on a 663 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: world tour. And they knew everybody knew about this because 664 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: they've been talking about it in the pres since nine. 665 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: We're in nineteen fifty nine now, so for six months 666 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: they've been talking about this trip and my friend who's 667 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: going to go on a big trip, And that's all 668 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: they completely every time someone asked me, Jimmy, what's up 669 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: with your new movie? I can't wait to get to tire. 670 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Then they must have been insufferable when they got back, 671 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: like this doesn't taste like this isn't real Indian food. 672 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: You haven't had it to you're actually the Yeah, Jimmy 673 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: Stewart's got like box Bridge, Jimmy Stewart's semester in Barthlona. 674 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: It comes back with the accent. So Jimmy and his 675 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: wife Gloria and uh, they're on their you know, their 676 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: world tour. Now. They have so far been in Paris, Madrid. 677 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: After that they go to Rome, then they hop over 678 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: to New Delhi. The reason why they decided to make 679 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: a break from the great cities of Europe to hop 680 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: over to New Delhi is because they wanted to hunt tiger. What. Yeah, 681 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: that's what they telled the press. In fact, I knew 682 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: you wouldn't like that. It wasn't Jimmy Stewart's idea, it 683 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: was his wife's idea. I don't care. I'm not suggesting. 684 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: I just want you to know it. To be mad 685 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: at don't defend them. I'm not defending anybody. I'm just 686 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: wanting to aim your arrows at the right post. So 687 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy and Gloria Stewart were talking about their upcoming trip, 688 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: as they had been for the last six months, and 689 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: I quote this is from the newspaper. Jimmy Stewart, his 690 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: wife will go on safari in India's word is going 691 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: only to please his wife. We took a playing from 692 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: our California to New York, he said the other day. 693 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: What we're talking on a jet to London? Well they're 694 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: what what board a third playing for to day flight Calcutta. 695 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: Then we'll take a small playing down to a jungle 696 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: site and jeep we'll bring us out to the tent 697 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: from which we'll start hunting a tiger I never saw 698 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: for food we don't need. I'd prefer my home and 699 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. Wow, that was awesome. In another newspaper, cat 700 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart admitted that his wife she outfishes and out 701 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: hunts them. So this whole Bengal like tiger hunting trip 702 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: is definitely her idea, and she'll definitely be the one 703 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: to bag a tiger, he told the reported his quote, 704 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm just going along to shoot pictures of her. What 705 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: she's doing it? This is so weird. Why is he 706 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: laying at all of her feet? Oh yeah, she's like 707 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: she's the killer. You know, you're not the only one 708 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: who can do celebrity impressions. I was going to ask you, 709 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: but it felt that kind of means to be like, hey, 710 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: you do all the questions. Okay about it. I'm gloryss 711 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: and I just want to kill Oh my god, I 712 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: don't even know. She sounds like that's amazing, sounds like her. 713 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: That's what she sounds like, a blood luss to just 714 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: kill beautiful things for no reason. So you know that's 715 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: how it is. Back then, people are like, look, I'm rich, 716 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: I just want to kill something till it's extinct. You 717 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: just want to kill. Why can't I kill? Do you think? 718 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Do you know how hard I work? And he's like 719 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: my wife, she just wants to kill. I just want 720 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: to take pictures of it. Yeah, I just like to 721 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: watch saucy pictures or her killing we have. You know 722 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: what I usually say, no judgment judgment on these two 723 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: little freaky's taking pictures of each other. I can just 724 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: imagine you in their home, like when they're coming back 725 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: from the trip and they're doing like the photo like 726 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: slide show that people used to back the day, and 727 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: you're like on slide four, I'm out of here. Shame, shame, 728 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: And I won't yell my other like what I always 729 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: am desperate to do. I want to go to some 730 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: sort of presentation if I don't like it, and then 731 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: just from the crowd yell bory. Some day I'm gonna 732 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: be able to do that boom. But in this case, shame. 733 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: So luckily the Stewards have never had to worry with 734 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: you as a house guest. But lucky for them, they 735 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: were a guest of the Maharajah of Baroda, who was 736 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: a friend of Kirk Johnson. And arranged for Burned the 737 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: Explorer to meet the Stewarts at the Grand Hotel. So 738 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: burn shows up and he meets Jimmy Stewart, and the 739 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: star was apportedly quite tickled at the side of the 740 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: grizzly trophrey, and he agreed to smuggle the relic out 741 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: of the country. And he confided that you know, no 742 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: one will chuck my wife's LINGERURDI freaky deekie. These two 743 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: let's stick the finger in her panties. Exactly, it's so dirty. 744 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: So they hide the Yeti bone and glorious Stewart's lacy 745 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: under things. Now, if you were to hide a yetibone 746 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: and you were needing needed to smuggle it, where were 747 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: you stick in the yettibone? Just sounds so wrong. I 748 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: couldn't even say the question. Where would I hide a 749 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Yetti finger if I were smuggling it? Well, I wouldn't 750 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: smuggle it. I take it back because I'm a goody 751 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: two shoes. Okay, let's say I really had to. Let's 752 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: say you're a criminal and you're ridiculous, where would you 753 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: take it? I would probably like stitch it into the 754 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: hem of my skirt. If I wore skirts. Oh that's good. Yeah, 755 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: like that, or I would oh, you know, I wear 756 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: my hair in a bun a lot, shove it in 757 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: the butt, you go like that. That's how people get 758 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: busted trying to get Colombia and cocaine into the country 759 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: to see Lady of the Giant Beehive and she had 760 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: like key loads of cocaine and be like, no one 761 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: has worn that haircut in forty years whose well yeah, yeah, 762 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: is on her own level, no one other than Amy Winehouse. 763 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: So Jimmy Stewart and Gloria Stewart now that they're into 764 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: yetty bone smuggling and mule encrypted body parts across like 765 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: the natural borders breaks, total freaks, right, but they're really 766 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: into it, right, But they do have a terrible fright 767 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: when they arrive in Paris and their luggage it doesn't arrive. 768 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: Oh god, oh no. And so Jimmy Stewart and his 769 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: wife have to have a conversation about you know, we've 770 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: been busted as yetty bone smugglers, Like what's gonna happen? 771 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: Are the press gonna be here tomorrow and people gonna 772 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: be showing up where or there's some poor other tourists 773 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: who gets their luggage by mistake, and the lady goes 774 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: to get her laundry and then it's like she picks 775 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: up her underpants or unnies, and then an old finger falls. 776 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: Good lord, so luckily the luggage does show up. That 777 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: moment did not occur for anybody. No one was surprised 778 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: by the Yeti bone in their luggage or someone else's luggage. 779 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: The Stewarts are like, oh, thank goodness, right, they check 780 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: his wife's lingerie and they're indeed, is the yetti finger 781 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: exactly where the where they had left it with all 782 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: of her lacey things. So the Yeti finger now gets 783 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: passed on to Dr Osmond Hill. And in March, when 784 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: he's asked about his time abroad, Jimmy Stewart somehow leaves 785 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: out this whole Indian adventure and instead focuses on his 786 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: wife's prowess with a hunting rifle. And then his wife 787 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: Gloria had to confess the reporters that she didn't get 788 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: a tiger, but she had bagged a leopard. Jimmy got 789 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: his tiger, So apparently Jimmy Stewart it took time out 790 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: and did manage to get a Bengal tiger. This is 791 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: how Glorious Stewart recalled it, and please forgive my poor 792 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: impression of her. I had one shot at a tiger 793 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: and missed. Ten minutes later Jimmy got his. It was 794 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: wonderful fun. For two weeks we rode on elephant back 795 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: for seven hours a day. We hired the equipment from 796 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: the maharaj of kush Bhar. The tents were so fancy, 797 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: I felt like the bride of Rudolph Valentino. There were 798 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: two bathtubs, we had hot water in the eating tent. 799 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: The menus were printed every day. The food was wonderful. 800 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to go right back. She's lame. The only 801 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: thing I agree with her about is that hot water 802 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: is worth comment. We had hot water, but everything else 803 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: yet I'm with you, But you know whatever, So setting 804 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: aside the Stewarts and their tiger hunts and their bone smuggling, 805 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: we'll get back to Tom. Slick gets bored of the 806 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: expeditions in the Himalayas, because you know, he's like, I've 807 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: got my friendship with Howard Hughes to go recultivate, and 808 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: I got my low key relationship with the CIA. You know, 809 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: I gotta go and hang out with my buddies or 810 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: the agents. So also at the same time, he's written 811 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: a book on world peace because you know, he's looking 812 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: for new ways to advance his ideas. Like, that's a 813 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: really good answer. You're a writer, as m I know 814 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 1: when people are like, how's your new novel coming, what's 815 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: it about from now on? I'm tired of answering that question, 816 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna say it's about world peace. Yeah, 817 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: it's about solutions for a world peace. I'm just writing 818 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: about world peace. His book was called and you can 819 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: use this title if you want permanent peace, a check 820 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: and balance plan, Oh, perma peace. Yeah. He's like, look, 821 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: everyone just chill out and hunt Bigfoot. Like, I don't 822 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: know why you're all checks and balances. Yeah, that's the 823 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: whole deal. But his idea eventually becomes kind of like 824 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: a model that Kissinger ends up using, which is, look, 825 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: if we can all have like an interconnectedness, and then 826 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: these checks and balances will be will be so interconnected 827 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: we won't fight wars. He actually is kind of like 828 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 1: in the mainstream of a certain level of political thought. 829 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: So Tom Slick, whatever world peace advocate, just just like 830 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: Henry isn't exactly so at this same time, now that 831 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, board with looking for the big 832 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: Foot or of the East, he's like, I want to 833 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: go look for the big Foot of the West. So 834 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: he goes back to America and he starts looking for 835 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: any cryptods he can find. He looks for Bigfoot, you know, 836 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest. He looks for giant lake monsters. 837 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: In Alaska, he looks for the Trinity Alps, giants salamander 838 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: in California. Are there giants salamanders? Oh yeah, well at 839 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: least that's what the cryptid say. That is crypto lovers. 840 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 1: That's another thing. I'd like to see the giant salamander. Okay, 841 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: we'll make a plan. Okay, yeah, the spring is coming up. 842 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: Who knows giants? Goes giants salamanders spotting, Yes, exactly, and 843 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: people are like, oh you in the big Foot. No, 844 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: giant salamanders. That's where it's at. The manders are really 845 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: running this spring. So meanwhile, this dude Tom Slick on 846 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: his like crypto hunt. He of course finds none. He did, though, 847 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: managed to get him self killed. Well, no, it wasn't 848 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: like you got murder anything. But it maybe some people 849 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: suggested it was the curse of the Stolen Yetti Finger, 850 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: because remember what the monks said, if this any part 851 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: of it, bad stuff of befall. Well, it didn't happen 852 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: to the monks. It befell someone else. Eno a few 853 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: years after the Nepalese expedition, while he's returning from a 854 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: hunt in Canada, his plane crashes in Montana. But the 855 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: plane apparently disintegrated in mid air, didn't crash, it just 856 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: just completely took up. That was the power of the 857 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: Yetti Finger and all the wild animals that he had 858 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: iced over the years hanging out together and they're like me, 859 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: They're like, no, this dude, your time, Your time's up. 860 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: It's like a karma flash. So do you know that 861 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: I found this a little interesting. And when I was 862 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: doing research, Nicholas Cage was going to play Tom Slick 863 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 1: in a movie. It's gonna be called Tom Slick Monster Hunter. Yeah, 864 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: that's a great movie. Can't you see him in that? 865 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: Though I don't even know anything about Tom Slick other 866 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: than what I've told you, and I can still picture 867 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: him in it exactly. No, the Stolen Yetie Finger, we 868 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: we've not really, you know, we kind of left it aside. 869 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: Dr Osmond Hill has it right, because Jimmy Stewart and 870 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: his wife sneaking it through her lingerie, gets it to 871 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: the good doctor. He analyzes it and he discovers that 872 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: the stolen Yetti bone is, according to his impressions, human, 873 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: He's like, no, this is probably human, deistrated human bone 874 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: for human bones, right. Other scientists, other British scientists, are like, wow, 875 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, let's check this. I believe it could 876 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: be a giant ape man creature, perhaps from that extinct 877 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: giant ape you know, the missing link, and they're trying 878 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: to make that connection because that's their whole story. They 879 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: want to glom onto. I'm kind of hoping that the 880 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: monks um anticipated this and that it was like fake 881 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: Yettie hand on display and they keep the real one 882 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: securely locked. And what he stole was a dead monk's 883 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: middle finger that they taken from a British mountaineer exactly. 884 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, take it, go ahead, but well to 885 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: settle all this because of people are like, well, it 886 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: could be the missing link, and Dr Alsman Hill is like, 887 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: mel's really listening. He's a Zoo, you know, the taxidermist. Essentially, 888 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: some people are like okay, They're like, we need someone 889 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: to settle this. Enter Sir Edmund Hillary. It's sixties, Like 890 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: all I thought I settled this already, and it was like, bro, No, 891 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I'm gonna debunk this once and for all. 892 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: He grabs Marlin Perkins. He's like, come on, Marlon, suit up, 893 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: We're going to the Himalayas. In the mutual of Omaha, 894 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so glad you remembered that. Yes, 895 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: he goes full on wild Kingdom in the Mahimalayas. He 896 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: takes him and Sir Edmund Hillary are bouncing around, right 897 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: and as you could probably guess, A loved that show 898 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: as a kid, totally. I'm he was the white haired 899 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: animal god. So they traveled to Himalayas sizeable expedition. They 900 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: trek through the mountains and passes. They collect some hair samples, 901 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: They spot some footprints, but they find no yetti. But 902 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: they also find no conclusive evidence of the yetti. Right, 903 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: they do visit the temple at Pangboche. They see the 904 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: famed Yetie hand, but they noticed that it's been why 905 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: together They're like, this is obviously not real. Then use 906 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,720 Speaker 1: that as evidence to discredit it. And apparently the monks 907 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: were like, no, I don't know anything about that man. 908 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: That's just how it's been. They don't tell him anything 909 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: about burn or anything. They just let them think that 910 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: it's a fake and they leave it. So Sir Edmond 911 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: Hillary comes back and he's like, yeah, the Yettie rumors 912 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: total bunk hype man. Marlon Perkins is like word so 913 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: just hi, yeah, big clock hanging on. So the cryptic 914 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: hunting expeditions in the Himalayas begin to die down, right, 915 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: that is until the you know, the fever basically gets 916 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: kicked back up over time, because these things come in cycles, 917 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: and so around like the end of the century, people 918 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: start getting excited about bigfoot cryptis and so the bombable 919 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: Snowman becomes a person of interest again. Around that time, 920 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: Dr Osmond Hill, who was long since died, his research 921 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: has been you know, basically now just being kept in boxes, right, 922 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: and in his research is the YETI bone. So when 923 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: he is like, you know, long since been in the 924 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: research lab. In two thousand eight, a research or at 925 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: the London Royal College of Surgeons, the hunter Terrian Museum 926 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: discovers a box of his old research. They open it 927 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: and they describe what they find. A three point five 928 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: inches long, two centimeters wide at his widest and curled 929 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: and black at the end, with a long nail end 930 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: quote finger. Right. Three years later, in two thousand eleven, 931 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: researchers at the Edinburgh Zoo they test the yetie finger. 932 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: They use all the latest technology, d n A, the 933 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: whole bit right, the Yetie fingers conclusively determined to be human. Well, 934 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: there you go there. And six years later a international 935 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: team of scientists studied a set of nine samples of 936 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: everything anybody had ever collected, the hair, anything that somebody said, 937 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: this is some other Yetie piece I found. The person 938 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: who was was, I'll check it out with the hair. 939 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: This guy sold me this hair when I was in 940 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: paying Bow. So they check all of that, and all 941 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: nine samples or from a bear. Well except for one. 942 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: There was a tooth that wasn't from a bear. What 943 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: was it from? It was from a dog. So yeah, 944 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: Now to always say though the absence of evidence is 945 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: not the evidence of absence. Now, I personally like to 946 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: live in a world where such things like abominable Snowman 947 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: may exist, so I'm not going to rule them out, 948 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna like poopoo on the parade of 949 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: the cryptid loving community. I'm with you. I agree that mysteries, 950 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: encrypted creatures, and unknown lost kingdoms are important. It makes 951 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: me old fashioned, I know, but I like it that way. Now. 952 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't always need to know the truth. I prefer 953 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: to know the truth, but I think there's important to 954 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: have some unknown things in the world and to kind 955 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: of like give ourselves the gift of a mystery. I 956 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: am on the exact same page. I love that, and 957 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: also I dislike the word abominable snowman. It's just fun. 958 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: So that's enough from my man. The bomb of Snowman 959 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: seems like a chill dude to although a lot of people, 960 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people, they do fixate on his body parts. 961 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: So you know, what are you gonna do about that? 962 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: Poor fella? What's our ridiculous takeaway here, Miss Dutton? I 963 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: think one let wild be wild, like I'm a big 964 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: proponent of that, and it's I think it is. I 965 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: agree with you, it's interesting that they're I think I 966 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: like the unknown, I like the possibilities I love the 967 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: idea that there's stuff we just have no idea about, 968 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: and I can see going out and trying to see 969 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: those things. But you know, let them be, let them 970 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: do their thing. I think that's spot on. I think 971 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: the ridiculous thing for me is if you find yourself 972 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: on a hunt and the person before you on that 973 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: hunt was Hitler, you're probably doing something wrong. You're totally 974 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: going down the wrong path. Well, thank you for joining us. 975 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: I am Zaron Burnett. I'm Elizabeth Dutton. You can find 976 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: us online at Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. 977 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: You've got a tip for us about a ridiculous crime 978 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: you'd like to hear about. Hit us up. Do you 979 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: want to confess to Ridiculous Crime? Also hit us up. 980 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: Email us at ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. 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