WEBVTT - Mike Renner Talks NFL Draft Day Preview

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<v Speaker 1>From the King of Sports Books comes the King Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's

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<v Speaker 1>Papas and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome to Unleash, brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by bet MGM. This is Jana's pappas and of

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<v Speaker 1>course I am here with the very pregnant Olivia Harland Decker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Los Angeles, She's in the Midwest. This show

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<v Speaker 1>comes to you from all over the world. Another huge

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<v Speaker 1>week in sports, Olivia, we saw Arrol Spence Jr. In

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<v Speaker 1>a brutal fight, really fighting on the inside. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>really knocking each other. He added yet another title, eating

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<v Speaker 1>your Dennis Uga. Can you say that name your Dennis Uga?

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Uga? I would have pronounced it u g a

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<v Speaker 1>my alma mater. So this improves Errol Spence Junior. No.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is setting up a monster fight with Terence

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<v Speaker 1>Crawford that everyone is excited about. The boxing world has

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<v Speaker 1>not been excited about a fight like this since the

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<v Speaker 1>last time Jake Paul laced up to gloves or at

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<v Speaker 1>least tweeted about boxing. So this is gonna be amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and the antitions patient is crazy. But my favorite sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Your husband's pedigree is on full display right now. The

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<v Speaker 1>NBA playoffs are in full swing. I'm watching every game, Olivia.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching? What do you think I am watching?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so exciting because you know, there's no Lebron, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no Kauai, there's no some of this stars that we

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<v Speaker 1>thought we'd see. But we've got plenty of stars left.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like a guy like Anthony Edwards. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been his coming out party. The Timberwolves are really peaking

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time. They have my interest. I am

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<v Speaker 1>in on the Timberwolves, and I got to say, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>as a comedian, I had to bring this up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was on the call and that play in

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<v Speaker 1>game versus the Clippers when that lady glued herself to

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<v Speaker 1>the court, and you may need to watch your back

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<v Speaker 1>because I think he made a pretty hilarious joke. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>roll that in What's take? So, Joannest, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>so passionate about that you would do something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's a cause? Because for her it was something

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<v Speaker 1>about chicken. What was it for you? Well? First off,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Kevin Harlan. I mean, the kid has

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<v Speaker 1>comedic timing. I mean, perfect, perfect joke, perfect time, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of diffuse the situation. Glad he saw the humor in it,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was one of the funniest things I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever happened at a basketball game. Obviously, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want fans doing things like that, but she did do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and in retrospect, I mean, it's one of the stupidest

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<v Speaker 1>things I've ever seen a human being do. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what her cause was, but I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it was stupider than the cause was. What she decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do. She judge glue herself to the court. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so passionate about Sam Decker being in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>that I will run out on the court. I will

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<v Speaker 1>run out on the court with a I love Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Decker signed with my shirt off, and I will get

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo. I will say Team Decker, hashtag Team Decker

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<v Speaker 1>on my chest and streaked like it's the movie Old

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<v Speaker 1>School right across the court, and have your dad who's

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<v Speaker 1>calling that game, pretend that he doesn't know who I

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<v Speaker 1>am and I don't work with his daughter. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I that's the extent I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to to get Sam Decker back in the NBA. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sick of this, yes, especially about to be a new father. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I would glue myself to the court too

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<v Speaker 1>for that one. Okay, so who are you cheering for it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who your team is when the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>are out of it. I'm a free agent. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent. I'm an absolute free agent. Just an admirer

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<v Speaker 1>of the game of basketball. I gotta say right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm loving the way the Heat or plant

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<v Speaker 1>I am loving. It's just old school pat Riley, top

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<v Speaker 1>of the food chain defense that we're seeing, just gnarly defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like they're in sync. I really like the Heat.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Heat are gonna go all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're coming out of the East and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're winning it. They beat Golden State in the finals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling it early shocking the world. Okay, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Heat. Tyler Hero, you know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>guy from Milwaukee, a Wisconsin guy. And speaking of which,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got another Wisconsin guy coming on the show in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. It's Mike Renner from Pro Football Focus. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get us ready for the NFL Draft. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>a week away. I can't wait. You know, Janna's eight

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<v Speaker 1>teams do not have a first round pick. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a very weird draft. Their speculation that there's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a single skill player taken in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've got to pick myke sprain about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a big day regardless that first day

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<v Speaker 1>for the two New York teams, as the Jets have

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<v Speaker 1>picks number four and ten and your giants Joanna's have

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<v Speaker 1>picks five and seven. Exciting. Yeah, hopefully, um we get

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<v Speaker 1>some online help. I can't wait to talk to Mike

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We need some big boys. We need some guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the scouts look at everything, hopefully looking at

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<v Speaker 1>guys who like to eat a lot of McDonald's, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fast food, and their big bodies. We need

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<v Speaker 1>a couple three four pound guys to at least give

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<v Speaker 1>whoever's quarterback I assume it's gonna be Dangel Jones a

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<v Speaker 1>little chance to try to throw that ball. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any big, hairy Greek cousins who live in the

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<v Speaker 1>area who could help the amount? I mean, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have someone, you know, I have one, My cousin vacities.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he likes cigarettes and coffee a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too much, you know, So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You know, he's about six four, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, I think his lungs are about eighty

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<v Speaker 1>years old, so he's not available. Okay. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they could really get the draft entirely and just

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<v Speaker 1>go get your cousin vacilli. Does that? You say it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna work out. No, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this draft is crazy, like last year. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year was a sexy draft. There were so many quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely knew Trevor Lawrence's going number one, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of knew the top three. This year, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of people agree on, Like, no one

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<v Speaker 1>knows the number one overall pick. The quarterbacks are waying

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<v Speaker 1>not so exciting, and there's so much to talk about though,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got to get a draft expert on. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to football, we've got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in the NBA. There's a lot of news

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<v Speaker 1>this week, a lot of opinions this week, honest, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you and I are not short on opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to unleak. Let's do it. I was waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for you to go n Look. One of the best

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<v Speaker 1>games we saw so far was Game one between the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics and Nets. Oh my gosh, was that good. We

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<v Speaker 1>knew this was going to be an incredible series. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets are not a typical seven seed. They are

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<v Speaker 1>much better than that. But already this series has given

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<v Speaker 1>us an instant classic. Jayson Tatum gave the Celtics their

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<v Speaker 1>first ever buzzer beater in playoff history. I cannot believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that possible? That spin move at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>that was gorgeous. Kyrie nearly carried the Nets to a

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<v Speaker 1>Game one win. Katie kind of have an off game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie had thirty nine points, but it was after the

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<v Speaker 1>game all anybody wanted to talk about was how he

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<v Speaker 1>got into it with fans. Kyrie has become a polarizing

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<v Speaker 1>player this season, you know, on the road, all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with the vaccine, but especially in Boston where he

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<v Speaker 1>left them after saying he would plan to stay on

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston. But this game it seemed way too personal,

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<v Speaker 1>really personal. The fans were letting him have it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he let him have it to He had

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine points, like I mentioned, six assists, two middle fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a bad So have a listen to what he

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<v Speaker 1>said after the game. So if some somebody's gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>me out of my name, I'm gonna look at them

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<v Speaker 1>straight in the eye and see if they really bout it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time they're not. I gotta read to

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Do you feel like the hostility that you

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<v Speaker 1>get still, let's not let's not focus on this, like

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<v Speaker 1>ask me questions about the game, like it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>the fans. The fans aren't playing from a basketball standpoint, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like the hostility you get, there's no hostility, bros. Basketball. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you were flicking people off. I'd say that some hostility

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<v Speaker 1>from what what? What point are you guessing that that's hostility?

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<v Speaker 1>Are Like? Hostility for me is like growing up. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've never seen that from you this season where you

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<v Speaker 1>are running down the floor flicking people off. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time you actually caught it. Because it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>time game. I respond in different ways, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm not trying to focus on that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to ask me a question about the fans

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<v Speaker 1>go ask them, go on the street and ask them questions. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm asking from your perspective, from basketball perspective. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like the hostility that you get not hostility, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like the energy you get from fans

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<v Speaker 1>in this building? Embrace it from you? Embrace it. Embrace it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the dark side, embrace it. So look, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be the villain. I do, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is such a role. It's the heel, right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he likes it, but then he has to explain himself after.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Katie is kind of sensitive. Kyrie is reactionary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like when someone and honestly, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about here, when someone comments or

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<v Speaker 1>d ms you something really mean on social media. This

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<v Speaker 1>happens to me and you respond. They always come back

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<v Speaker 1>really nice, you know what I mean, Like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry, I'm a big fan. I didn't think you'd respond.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, why do you just call me a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible name or whatever. It's just classic group think. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's behind your keyboard or you're in the same jersey

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<v Speaker 1>as a bunch of people in the stands, you get

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<v Speaker 1>bolstered by this group. Think. So I don't like fans

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<v Speaker 1>getting nasty, and I think Kyrie has suffered enough this

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<v Speaker 1>year with a vaccine nonsense. It's okay to boo, it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to cheer against a player or a team, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but people are nasty and they take it way too far.

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<v Speaker 1>And it followed him into the locker room, like fans

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<v Speaker 1>who somehow have access down there, we're still heckling him

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<v Speaker 1>on the way into the locker room. So look, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard it even as a sideline reporter. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>player on either team. I've heard horrible heckling from drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged men in the stands. To me, people are

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<v Speaker 1>just weird at games. They're drunk, they're charged. It's this

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<v Speaker 1>macho energy in the air. And let's face it, Boston

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<v Speaker 1>fans are not known for being tasteful or fair. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>Boston listenership, but you know that's your reputation. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be very interesting to watch it continue

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<v Speaker 1>to play out this week. I'm on team Kyrie here

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<v Speaker 1>just because the fans can be so nasty. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>fair that these highly successful, driven specimen of human beings

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<v Speaker 1>one percent type people and I'm talking about the athletes

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to sit there on their hands, stay

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<v Speaker 1>quiet and classy when some low life are yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>them drunk at a game wearing a jersey with another

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<v Speaker 1>man's last name on the back. Do you hear what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying? Honest? Do you agree? I hear what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying, great unleashed. Look, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>piggyback off of what you're saying because it really struck

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<v Speaker 1>a chord with me. As a comedian. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>postings online all the time. People comment, they say horrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>I do comedy. We get heckled all the time. It

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me the other night in Phoenix, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just awful. And sometimes you cave into it and you

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that you should have ignored it. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>respond and you smashed the person, especially when you're performing live,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what is relevant here, and it works. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a basketball player, Look, I can't argue with

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<v Speaker 1>what Kyrie did because his stat line was impeccable, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it affected his play at all. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston fans, to agree with you are the absolute worst

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<v Speaker 1>they take it too far. I don't know what they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying. And look, I get I agree. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine that Kyrie responds. If it doesn't affect his game,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't affect the team. I don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room there, but all I know is

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<v Speaker 1>Boston fans they are the worst. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>do have kids watching, You do have kids in stands.

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<v Speaker 1>You have kids who didn't hear or say what Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>was reacting to. So throwing up the middle fingers. He

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<v Speaker 1>has to remember, you know, this is not a comedy club,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the Late Show. You know, he's making up

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<v Speaker 1>scene gestures. He's obviously gonna get fine for that. I

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<v Speaker 1>would recommend that. I'm sure the coaching staff is telling him,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to ignore it. Alright. The only birds I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see in Boston are Larry and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you shouldn't be flipping the bird during a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game when millions of people are watching, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always something with Kyrie, that's the thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, like I said, I get it, but because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a comedian, I can empathize. But with Kyrie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just always something outside of basketball. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a distraction for the team. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how Katie feels about that, because Katie's a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>likes to just put his head down and grind and

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<v Speaker 1>when and Kyrie wants to talk about vaccines, about whether

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth is flat, and about Boston fans all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and god knows whatever else he's talking about. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a dog fight right now. The Boston Celtics are

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<v Speaker 1>for real. And so look, somebody slipped Kyrie irving some

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<v Speaker 1>iver mecton to chill him out and get him back focused.

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<v Speaker 1>And really the war is not with the Boston fans.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a professional athlete. I mean that happens all the

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<v Speaker 1>time at adversaries stadiums. Look, I think if he if

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<v Speaker 1>they win, he's vindicated. Oh it's Kyrie, That's just how

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<v Speaker 1>he is. Like I said it, stat line is impeccable.

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<v Speaker 1>If they lose, you're gonna see a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>going like, you know, Kyrie is a distraction, and that

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<v Speaker 1>some of those people might be his teammates. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all the press is talking about. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing during the game. So I think this

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<v Speaker 1>depends on the outcome of the series, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good look to flip the bird to do that

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the game when cameras are on you.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kyrie, just chill ou and place some hopes. Just

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<v Speaker 1>know you're in Boston, dude. You know, sometimes you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>know when to ignore them, and this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those times. The best way you can deal with Boston

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<v Speaker 1>fans and Boston crowds is to ignore them and punish

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<v Speaker 1>them with your play. So I'm pulling from the Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>Nets because they're playing Boston and I hate Boston in retrospect.

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<v Speaker 1>It really sucks they got this draw. It really sucks that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting the play in and the seventh seed,

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<v Speaker 1>like they probably are just like damn, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to Boston. And they knew this was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a thing like this is yeah, this is rough.

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<v Speaker 1>They they should have tried to, I don't know change

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<v Speaker 1>that at the end, but they had to play themselves in.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to get here. So it'll be very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the record on Tuesday. Boston's up one game nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They play again Wednesday. But this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>fiery first round series. I love this, but yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to our guest, let's get to our

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<v Speaker 1>good luck. Now let's get to our guests. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to NFL draft analysts, he always grades out at

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<v Speaker 1>an A plus. Our first overall picked. To help you

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for next week from Pro Football Focus, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Runner. Okay, Mike. It's fair to say that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot more interest in last year's draft. We

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much knew the top three picks. Obviously, the trait

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<v Speaker 1>lance thing was kind of a curveball, but we had

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<v Speaker 1>so much information on this quarterback heavy class. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>you could argue that this draft is actually more exciting

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<v Speaker 1>because we really don't know the first pick, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>what comes after that. I know you think it's Aidan

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<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson to Jacksonville. Can you explain that prediction? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that that I honestly think this draft is

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<v Speaker 1>more intriguing. I get that there's less interests. Eight teams

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<v Speaker 1>without a first round pick. That's obviously gonna drive that down.

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<v Speaker 1>But I might not get a single pick right in

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<v Speaker 1>my mock draft. That's how crazy this draft could go.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think it's gonna be Aidan Hutchinson. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he should be the numb one overall pick. He very

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<v Speaker 1>well may not be the They can fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>with Trayvon Walker, the Georgia ed rusher and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the physical tools that he has. Because I mean, for

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred seventy pounder, he's more athletic or tested out

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<v Speaker 1>more athletic at least than someone like Myles Garrett, who

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you know as an elite edge rusher in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's gonna be a Hutchinson because one

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<v Speaker 1>that Jacksonville staff mainly tread bulky at GM who everyone

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every Jags fan was calling for his head

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<v Speaker 1>all off season. One of him gone, the clown mass,

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<v Speaker 1>the clown emoji's all over Twitter that you saw calling

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be gone. He needs to hit on

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<v Speaker 1>this pick. You know, he doesn't have to wait for

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<v Speaker 1>a Trayvon Walker to develop. He doesn't have that time.

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<v Speaker 1>You need the best player. You need a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna impact in two. To me, that's Adan Hutchinson. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the best defensive player in college football last year

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<v Speaker 1>and to the high ceremony, and like his athleticism itself

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<v Speaker 1>is getting slept on. In my opinion, he's a high

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<v Speaker 1>end agility athlete for the position. His three cone his

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<v Speaker 1>short shuttle at the combine were elite times for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy his size. In fact, like he had the second

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<v Speaker 1>best wait adjusted three cone his combine started since we've

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<v Speaker 1>been tracking Combay data since two thousand. Number one of

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<v Speaker 1>that list is J. J. Watts. That's good company to

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<v Speaker 1>be in athletically if you're talking about a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>no one overall picks. So that's my take on it,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, I still have no idea if

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually going to go through with that. The first

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<v Speaker 1>QB you have going is Malik Willis from Liberty going

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<v Speaker 1>sixth overall to Carolina. What separated him from the pack

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<v Speaker 1>in your opinion, what are you here to justify that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the tools, it's arm strength. I mean, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>on tape, you see it from the pocket, outside the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you wanted. He also the fastest Miles Prower at

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl, fast Miles Prower at the combine the dude

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<v Speaker 1>as can So he has that and he also can

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<v Speaker 1>run his mobile and he broke more tackles than Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Walker did last year at Liberty. And yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lower level of competition, but he is elusive. He is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in that tier one of runners at

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position, like like a Josh Allen, like a

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. And what he can add on to your

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<v Speaker 1>running game. But what he can do is a scrambler.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are good starting points for a quarterback. You've

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<v Speaker 1>also seen him make improvements over the course of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes to coaching well, is a good kid by

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<v Speaker 1>every measure. You saw the picture of him at the

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<v Speaker 1>combine giving homeless man is sneakers like he He is

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<v Speaker 1>by all accounts, a guy you want to bet on

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. And that's what the NFL drafts highlight, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the NFL covets is the guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>take you to the highest end. Like if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the A s C right now with an average quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>trying to go up against DeShawn Watson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a chance. Joe Burrow like, you need

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<v Speaker 1>the high end players, so he brings those to the

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<v Speaker 1>table where other guys in this quarterback class may not. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, you don't think there's any reason to

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<v Speaker 1>take him or any quarterback higher than six because quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>typically get overdrafted. Yes, they get overdrafted. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be overdrafted this year's draft. This is the lowest we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have the top quarterback on the PFF draft boards.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we started doing draft boards in we haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback lower than ten. That was Mr Robiskie back

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<v Speaker 1>twenty that seventeen draft, and we're gonna have Milik Willis.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's twenty seven, and that's the first quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>on the PF after Alfward. So we are decided lululo

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<v Speaker 1>on this quarterback class last year, like we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>last yep, top, I think five quarterbacks would have gone

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<v Speaker 1>before Milik Willis last year, like Mac Jones would have

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<v Speaker 1>still gone before Malik Willis if he was in last

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<v Speaker 1>year's class. You mentioned Mr Drabinsky. He obviously signed with

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. They have some big shoes to fill with

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ben retiring. But do you think they're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>still taking a quarterback in the first round? Maybe let

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<v Speaker 1>Canny Pickett stay put at that facility? Oh, they're interested.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we were down at the Senior Bowl watching

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Tomlin hawking these quarterbacks, following their every move. He's

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly taken every single one of the top guys out

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner prior to their pro days. He has been

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<v Speaker 1>watching these guys doing all the due diligence possible. Now

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<v Speaker 1>do they still take one TBD. I mean, like he

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<v Speaker 1>could do all that due diligence and come on the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they all stink. That's a very real possibility

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<v Speaker 1>in this quarterback class. But I do think that any

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys I'd rather have the Mr. Biscuit at

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<v Speaker 1>this point compared to what they have on the foster.

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<v Speaker 1>That still might be an upgrade, even if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback three in this draft class. Yeah, nice, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to clarify. You said Malik Willis. He's a good guy,

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<v Speaker 1>no red flags, so he's like a good guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Manziel or Deshaun Watson. Just teams are ready for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's yeah, he doesn't Well, I guess, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>Shawan didn't actually have any red flags coming out, so

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<v Speaker 1>you never know that. I will say, yeah, but he

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<v Speaker 1>by all accounts is not going to get jamed for

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<v Speaker 1>that at this point in time. So your top five

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<v Speaker 1>picks are all defensive events and offensive tackles That won't

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<v Speaker 1>get an average NFL fan too excited. However, that can

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<v Speaker 1>change a team in a season. Uh, can you give

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<v Speaker 1>us a sales pitch that should get these fans exciting

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<v Speaker 1>about the players you're having going top five. The sales

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<v Speaker 1>pitch I give for positions like that and especially offensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>is to look how much those guys get paid on

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<v Speaker 1>their second contracts. They get paid one plus mill million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for average above average guys in the offense tackle position,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's only about twenty five guys in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the world right now who are six ft five with

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four inch arms that can move in mirror Von

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<v Speaker 1>Miller's of the world, So there's not enough to go around.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone needs one. And so if you draft a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like an offensive tackle, if you draft one of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys top five and he's good, you're saving yourself twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars that you don't have to pay that guy

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency. And again you're getting something that every

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<v Speaker 1>single team in the NFL needs. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>have them going high is because you can count on

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<v Speaker 1>one hand the amount of fan bases that are happy

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<v Speaker 1>with both of their offensive tackles, their left and right tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's with the NFL today, with the passing game

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<v Speaker 1>as it is, everyone needs that position. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>my sales pitch for teams for fan bases that might

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<v Speaker 1>want to sexier position like wide receiver, but invest in

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. It'll pay off dividends. Alright, Mike, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're preaching to the choir. I'm a Giants fan. They

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 1>have the fifth pick, and uh so, talk to me.

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna have a winning season? You know what firsthand?

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Then you've seen they You know they signed Kenny Golladay.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>You draft to Darius Sony, you think, oh, look at

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>this high powered offense and your quarterbacks plans back and

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it goes nowhere. That is why you invest in the

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>old line first, and then you get those other pieces around,

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, we'll start to look good. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>well they have a winning season. I'm not gonna go

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that far just yet. I love the coaching staff, the

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>front office they've put together there. I do think there's

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>still a few years away. They have to pay for

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the sins of the past. What Dave Gettlman left there

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was an abomination, truthfully, the roster mis management, the cat mismanagement,

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>how much they're paying mediocre players right now is obviously

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>why he's not there anymore. So I think there's still

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years away. But I believe in this

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.959
<v Speaker 1>staff to get the job done. I'm not gonna come

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>out here and Gas retires. Be honest. I can't lie

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to you. I can't lie to you. It makes for

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a long season on this show, and every week we're

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>having to talk about the giant star now onto a

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>real franchise. I'm a Packer fan, and everyone knows that

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>we need receivers, although knowing Aaron Rodgers, I don't think

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he gives trust very quickly to young guys, let alone rookies.

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>And we have the twenty second pick. I know you

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>put Cristal Lave there from Ohio State as one of

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>the most pro ready receivers, but what about filling that

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>need in free agency? What's your overall take on what

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the Packers are going to do at that position? Oh man,

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I really wish I could tell you what the Packs

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>is gonna do at that position, but I've been wrong

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>so often with them. I'm a Packers fan as well,

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>originally from Milwaukee, so I have been begging for a

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. Knew I heard a little accent to Milwaukee. Yes, yeah,

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I was like Key Higgins at the back end of

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the first round. No brainer, they go. Jordan's love last year,

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is a loaded wide receiver class. They

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>go cornerback. I think this is the year they finally

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>pulled the trigger. I mean they quite literally have to.

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>With Davante Adams no longer there anymore, they need to

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>just fill out the receiving corps. But I think after

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>signing Sammy Watkins, who say what jew will about him,

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>he's still a competent number two, number three type of

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. After signing Sammy Watkins, I think they're good

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>there to just they're gonna take one wide receiver in

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>this class. It will be in the first round, second round.

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But what they have coveted when they

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>do draft wide receivers, which isn't awful. The last time

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>they use the top I believe top was Davante Adams back.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>They draft size, whether it's you know, Jordy Nelson, James Jones,

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>throughout their history, those are two hundred plus pound type

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>of wide receivers or just thickly built. Even Randal Cobb

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>for a shorter wide receiver, is still well built. So

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that's their type. Guys like you know George Pickens, Trailing Burke,

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>George Pickins and Georgia, Trailing Burks from Arkansas, sky More

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>from Western Michigan. Those are guys who fill that mold

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the size they usually covered. So those

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>are the names I would keep an eye out when

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 1>they do draft wide receiver. I say, when hoping that

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>they do, but TB D and if they actually follow

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>through on that, because my gosh, on paper, right now,

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a bottom three wide receiver corps in the NFL,

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>which is just horrible. After all the drama of getting

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers back and again he's very trigger shy. He's

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to throw it to anyone. In fact, he's

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna make you earn it. It just makes me very

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>nervous for the remaining years of Aaron because it feels

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like we kind of missed our window. We could go

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>on a whole packer tangent right now, but that's what

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>it looks like to be. That's why I think if

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I had to pick any two wide re series, it

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>would be George Pickens or sky More because they have

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the best hands in the draft class. He's gonna trust

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the guy who's going to be where he needs to

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>be and has good hands. If he's gonna trust anyone

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>out the gate, that's it would be. But you're a

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>hunter saying correct, like his m O is two or

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>three years before he's even looking your way in that offense.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I think it might be ugly out

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the gate here, Pikes, you honest were in for a

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>long season. Yeah. Well, I'm a Giants fan, so I'm

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>used to it. It's still in the North, that still

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>in the NFC North. Yeah, that's our best, our best asset.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's a chance we don't see a

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>skilled player drafted in the top ten. I know Peter

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>King floated that idea this week. You think that's possible.

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it is because of where the strength this

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>class lie, whether it's offensive tackle edge, which we just

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>talked about, and then cornerback as well as very strong

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and very thin compared to wide receiver, where wide receivers deeper,

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and we see it every year. You know, this team's

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>drafting at the top of the draft can also find

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a good guy in the top of the second round,

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, like those Elijah Moore last year,

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman two years ago, Depot Samuel

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Even the year before that count still falls at that

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>position that can be game changing talent into the second round,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>whereas often to tackle Edgic doesn't. So like the teams

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I would look out if anyone is going to pull

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a trigger on a wide receiver, Atlanta at number eight

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>or the Jets at number ten, those are the two teams.

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone else is really even realistically and

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>played the draft. That being said, are there any receivers

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like the ones you've mentioned who could have an immediate

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>impact like we've seen the last couple of years with

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a Justin Jefferson, a Jamaar Chase or are those just

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>such rare cases? I think those are rare cases that

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver one in this class, to me, it's

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Jamison Williams, Alabama wide receiver. Yeah. Him having the A

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>c L obviously kind of puts that one to bed

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>in terms of him making the media impact. Wide receiver

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.239
<v Speaker 1>two is Drake Leondar from usc And while I love

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>him translating to the NFL, love his ball skills, the size,

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not very fast. You know, Jefferson ran four for one.

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe Jamar Chases in the four three is like

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>those guys who are explosive athletes. I think those are

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>more rare cases. I would put this entire wide receiver

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>class behind the top three last year that came off

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the board and Chase Waddle and Davante Smith. I think

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>all these guys are step behind them. But there are

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys in that tier that are step behind.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think you get some productive guys, but I

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>don't see anyone going yards, you know, from day one

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>type of number one wide receiver. So Mike, Jameis and

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Williams obviously tours a c L in the National Championship Game.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>There are questions about his health. Although guys come back

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>from a c L tears all the time, but he

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>may not be ready by the start of the season.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Is that going to hold some teams back with that

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>lower his draft status. I think it will some teams.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, some teams, while obviously are on the side

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of caution when it comes to injuries and look elsewhere,

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>but not too much. I think a lot of people

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>are gonna look at kind of the most recent scenario

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of this, where Jeffrey Simmons towards a c L, the

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Titans defensive tackle on the free draft process slips to

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>nine team and if you redrafted that draft class, he'd

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>be a top five pick. You know, he's the top

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle easily from that draft class. So I think

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams are regretting that and seeing that

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the draft it's not just a year one decision, it's

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a long term decision at this point, four months out.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>With the medical rechecks here this month, you know where

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't whereas recovery is going to go after an

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>A c L. You know whether he's going to have complications,

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have issues, and which none have been flagged yet, which

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>is why I think you've seen him move up boards

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and mock drafts or not. So his timeline puts them

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>towards the middle, like realistically early the middle of next

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>season to actually be on a football field. But even then,

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I would draft that guy as the wide deep one

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>this class. I would take him as you know, a

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>top ten player from the falcons of the Jets. I'd

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>be willing to pull the trigger on a guy like

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that because speed like he has game breaking speed, it

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>never lasts long in the NFL draft. And compare him

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>to guys like Henry Ruggs or Darius Heyward babe, who

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>have been top ten picks and years past. He's got

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>much much better tape. Don't need to bring it back

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to the Giants, But I mean, you know, I'd be

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>remiss if we had you on here and I didn't

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>ask this question. How committed do you think the Giants are?

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Did Daniel Jones? What do you think they're gonna do?

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Specifically with their two first round picks? Are we going

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to see a replacement coming in? Very uncommitted? I'll say

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they are options wide open. They're gonna obviously

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>give him a trial run, you know, you know there

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they came in knowing that they're kind of handcuffed to

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>him in a to a degree. But I don't think

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you're going quarterback in this year's quarterback class. I think

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is, like I said, they left a

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.479
<v Speaker 1>rough situation there for the staff. I think they're kind

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of gonna clear house, reset this roster, and then try

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to attract the top talent. We've seen quarterbacks on the

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>move more so in the past three years than ever before.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Quite literally, the last two Super Bowl champions were quarterbacks

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that weren't on the roster the year prior, with Tom

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Brady and Matt Stafford. So you can go out and

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>find one if you put together a good situation for them,

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>if you put together a good roster around them. So

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna give Daniel Jones a trial run if it

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out with an improved offensive line, which they

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>should have obviously drafting off the line in top ten.

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>If he is not that guy, if he doesn't look good,

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>he's to the curb and they're looking elsewhere, maybe be

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a trade or wherever they can in the next year's draft. Yeah,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that sounds about right. I got one last question. When

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>these teams are drafting, how much do they look at

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the grades of the guys? Does that matter at all?

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Like if the guys a straight a student, does that

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>matter or do they take that into account what he

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>majored in, Like if he majors in, you know, physical

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>therapy or sociology, whatever, is there a difference? They're okay,

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>certain teams will care about things like that. And a

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>big thing that's an underrated like red flag for some

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>certain teams is if they're like two good students, is

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>if they have too many interests outside of football. That

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>starts to take guys and drop guys on more. This

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>is not a joke. This is actually dead serious that

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>if a guy is too interested in other things, like

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>if he has strong hobbies outside of football, that will

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>be seen as a negative in a red play in

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>certain people's eyes. So you gotta hit that sweet spot

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of not loving other stuff too much but not caring

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>too little. You have to be right in the middle

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of how much you care about, you know, other things

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in life, but you gotta love football at the end

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>of the day. He's right, it's the NFL's it's the NFL.

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Over care. I'm having a son in about three weeks,

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna make sure he has no other interests.

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's all sports, baby, no time for games. He's gonna

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>be a top five pick. It's gonna be a top

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>five pick. No, in all seriousness, my my husband was

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>drafted in the NBA. But we just we're having this conversation,

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and he said that some NBA teams called local bar

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>owners in Madison, Wisconsin to ask what kind of guy

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Sam was, and that they ended up telling them, yeah,

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I told him you never had an issue, you know,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>never want a fight, never stiffed your tab, nothing like that.

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>But boy do they do their research. And like the

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>movie Draft Day, like we see it ended up coming

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>down to players not being invited to a birthday party.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of area scouts are more private investigator

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 1>than they are like a valuator of talent for these teams.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Like they have to dig into backgrounds to find stuff

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>more than just like tell me how good this guy

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>is on tape. You know, the report is all like

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>background information, talking to people around him, seeing just who

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>the guy is. So it's a big investment. You know,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>these guys a lot of money. You've got to be

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>smart about it to do. They check the social media

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>profiles too, to see what they're posting and stuff like that. Sometimes,

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean some there's some guys that have slipped through

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>though with some rough stuff. I remember Geronimo Allison. You

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>probably remember this Packers. He had tweeted something. I don't

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>know if I should say it, but he tweeted some

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>sexually explicit stuff, shall we say, prior to getting drafted

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that was still pops up or still did pop up

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>when he was still in the NFL. Like how they

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>missed that? How did they miss that? It's the agent

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that usually tell them to scrub that stuff. But like

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the agents, especially for like smaller time guys,

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>are trying to just like cast a wide net and

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>their agents for a lot of different players, and so

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't get a lot of attention from that agent

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and they don't know what the hell they're doing pre draft.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>They're just trying to catch on somewhere. So that slips

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and cracks Geronimo Allison, Yeah, I had forgotten about that

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>until you brought that up. Okay, one more quarterback question.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Will we see Baker Mayfield moved on draft Day? What's

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the latest with him? What are you hearing from teams

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>who might be interested? So I'm hearing no one's interested.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It's the thing is why they're really struggling here because

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of how his contract is set up. So it's a

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>fifth year option, which it's now guaranteed when you exercise it,

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's not guaranteed or it doesn't hit your cap.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>If that guy's trade did so, it's eighteen million dollars.

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>If they cut them out right, they have to pay

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>him eighteen million dollars this year. If they trade him,

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to take any of that catpit. The

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>new team that traded for him pays that eighteen million dollars.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So there's only maybe a couple of teams in the

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL right now that would even consider it. The thing

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is one of them, as the Pittsburgh Steelers, who's in

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the division, who they obviously would have no interest in

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>really trading him too as a division rival, but they

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>can kind of basically say hold him hostage or hold

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the Browns hostage, and say, you know you're gonna have

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to give us picks to give to us to take

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield because it's going to you have an active

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>interest in wanting him off your team because of that

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>cap hit. So I think that could be what we

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>end up seeing is they actually trade away picks and

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield to have another team take Baker Mayfield, whether

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the Seahawks or someone else who's a quarterback needy team,

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Carolina Panthers if they don't draft quarterback in

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the top ten. So I think that's where it's at.

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Even if Baker Mayfield, like objectively, still should be one

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of the thirty two starting quarterbacks in the NFL when

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 1>he is good and healthy, he is better than that.

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just everyone kind of found their quarterback and the

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Browns missed the boat. That's brutal. He's got a good agent, though.

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's got a good agent because he did

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of commercials, his commercial marketing to Yeah, yeah,

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he's got a great marketing agent. Because I was saying, like,

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>why is he had so many commercials? He's not that great.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>He's a little bit of a squeak. You can't even

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>see over the offensive line. They should have did commercial

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>about that, about stretching him out a little bit. He's

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a little person. I was gonna say all those ones

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>where it's he's living at the Brown Stadium, probably a

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>little awkward right now. If he's still living there, he's

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>probably very awkward. Okay, Mike, one last thing. Can you

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>leave us with a hot take on something you're predicting

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>happens on draft nights, something that might be a little

0:37:54.360 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>out there, unexpected hot take, maybe someone trading up. I'm

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>bad at doing hot takes. I'll just say that I

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>think the hottest stake I have is that the Detroit

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Lions end up selecting a quarterback in this class. I

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>think Detroit with kind of where they are as a

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>roster and you know, with Jared Goff is kind of

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this lame duck year where they can't really cut them

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>because the cap hit. But I still want him on

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the roster. I think they draft quarterback number two overall

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and let them develop, and I think it's gonna believe Will.

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's my hot take is Blieu will skills number

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>two overall. WHOA, that's a great hut. Actually, you said

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't do hot takes, but that one was sizzling.

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at them because they don't come true.

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>It's more what I was saying, my hot takes are

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>all pretty trapped. Well, you know you got you got

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a nice chain out there. I like you chain. I did.

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to wait to the end of the interview

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to say that's that's a nice right there. Appreciate it.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You got mine too. I pulled mine out because you

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>had yours out. Yeah, Chan gang not bad, honest for

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 1>a white guy from Wisconsin. Huh, not bad at all.

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>They really Scott's boys do not have swags, sadly. Yeah,

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys both look like you're from the Midwest. I

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm gonna I'm on a German chat right

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>now with you. Guys. Oh, Mike, you're a trooper. Thanks

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on. You can follow Mike Renner

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>at PFF Underscore. Mike, thanks so much for all the

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>great insight, and we're really looking forward to seeing how

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>much of this you got right next week, although you've

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>predicted none of it, so this will be great. Thanks,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I'm looking forward to it to tv D

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and if I this is all probably gonna turn out

0:39:38.120 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>to be wrong, but that's fine, Okay. Well, as you know,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we have all the lowdown on the NFL Draft from

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike Grinner. That was a lot of fun. We got

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to hear his takes, although he is not very confidently

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 1>honest and what's going to happen because this draft is

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>so wacky, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. However,

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a really fun one to bet. And yes,

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>if you are new to the sports gambling world, you

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>can bet on the NFL Draft and those lines are

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>up on bed MGM dot com on the bed MGM app,

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>so check them out. Now. Now we bring in Peter

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Andrew to help us give us a little advice on

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>what to do, on what to know. So Peter Mike

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>just told us he thinks Aidan Hutchinson from Michigan is

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>going first overall. You know a lot of people do

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think that. In Vegas certainly thinks that he is leading

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>right now at minus one seventy five as of April nineteenth,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>So as we get closer, that may change. But do

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you expect that to change a lot or is he

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of the clear favorite clear favorite to me, you

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>saw some things happen the last couple of weeks. Keavon Thibadeaux,

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I think draft stock plummeted a bit. I think Lou

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson has stayed the clear cut favorite, most complete player.

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the immediate guy that can come in

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and just help a team. Put him in Josh Allen

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>on the two sides of the defensive line. I mean

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>immediate impact for a team that just spent a lot

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of money in the Jaguars this year. I'd expect or

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>looking to at least make a push towards the playoffs.

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Give them. They spent to three million dollars um. So

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>he's at minus one seventy right now. I would actually

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>take it now. I can see that jump into two

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>to fifty and so on. As we get a little

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>bit clearer towards towards next Thursday. So yeah, I'm with him.

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm with pff, Mike. I think that's the logical first. Overall,

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I like how you call him by his Twitter name.

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>That's I feel like I call everybody by that. Quarterbacks

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>this year, like Olivia mentioned, not not as strong as

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>years prior definitely not like last year. Mike mentioned to

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>us Malik Willis from Liberty. What is the line looking

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>on him? And do you agree that he's gonna be

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the first quarterback taken in the draft. Well, it is

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>definitely not the sexy draft. I have top three picks

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>being all d NDS first quarterback. I actually have Kenny Pickett.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's hard to pick a guy from Liberty

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>as the first quarterback off the table. I know he

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>had a really good year. Liberty has been a change

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>program of late the last special the last couple of years.

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I love Kenny Pickett two way, dual threat game. I

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't going to Carolina at six shades of Cam Newton

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>for seventy five seven years, whatever it was, I think

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>clearly a better arm. He is a great two way threat.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You've got guys like Dj Moore Robbie Anderson that he

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>can get the ball too, and he's got a rule

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>named after him now with that fake neal that he

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>ended up running in for a touchdown. So he's the

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>complete package to me in a in a Nazo sexy draft. Here,

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he's at plus one thirty. I think Malik Willis is

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around minus one fifteen, so it's pretty close. It's

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty much even money. But cann He Pickett to me,

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>has just been the more complete player watching him a

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>pit all year, I mean, phenomenal talent, So I'm taking

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the dog here. The thing about Malik Willis, though, that

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I think people forget, is he transferred from Auburn, like

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he's He wasn't some low level quarterback coming out of

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>high school or anything. He's an Auburn transfer who saw

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and Hugh freezes offense. So that's why I

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 1>think people in the draft are really hot on Milik

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Willis because he kind of is the SEC caliber quarterback

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>who saw a better opportunity at a small school with

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a great offensive minded coach. But no, it's it's interesting

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and going six overall to Carolina, you know, just uh boy,

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Caroline is kind of a mess. But I don't know

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 1>if it's it's crazy that a quarterback's potentially not going

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>top five but maybe even dropping lower than that. Yeah,

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's it's less about his talent and more

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>about the talent he was playing all year, So playing

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Liberties Conference first, playing SEC defensive players is going to

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>be significantly different. Not to say that Canny Picket at

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>every team in the a SEC was a premier talent

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>like Limson is, but you've got You've got a good

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>sample size of what he can do against pretty good

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>defensive teams. So it honestly can go either way. I

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>can see them both going probably first fourteen or fifteen,

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna be We're really interesting. Who do you

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 1>want to take a shot on? And I guess ultimately

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you looking for? Probably pick it a little

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 1>bit more of the dual threat where he's got really

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>good legs, not not beefy like a Cam Newton was

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.959
<v Speaker 1>as an example. But Tom will tell a week away

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, I hope it works out for everybody.

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope especially it works out for my giants and

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>they get some old linemen so beat next week. As

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>we look ahead and we'll get way more into this.

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 1>What will open up at bet MGM for what people

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>can bet on the draft. Yeah, so obviously for right

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>now we only have things basically for the first round.

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.839
<v Speaker 1>You'll see the rounds open up subsequently for each day,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>so you'll have an ability to bet all six rounds.

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll also do call it exact as kind of like

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in horse racing, where you can bet one, two, and

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>three consecutive, essentially like in a parlay together. So if

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a really good feeling that you know, for me,

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it's Hutchinson, Walker, Thibodeau one two three, So a little

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>bit of pandering to U j Olivia, but but you

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>can parlay those together and instead of taking them all

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>at a different price if you feel good about it,

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>put them all together for plus a thousand and plus

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>fift hundred and then over under on specific players. So

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>over under on can you pick it, as an example,

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>five and a half or over under on him eight

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and a half if you think he's gonna go to

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the second quarterback. So turning real betting opportunities like spreads

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>and over unders into the draft where it's not just

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>about results, So a cool way for us to kind

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of mishmash a little bit of what we do. Be honest,

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>you should do this, do that one to three. You're

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in New York, you can do it. I'm gonna do it.

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do a pdo. I'll text you after this

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you walk me through a sweetheart. You

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>got it. If you can see, I give him a

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>little gun shot thumbs up. And in retrospect, that was

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>a little weird. Yeah, pdge, you let's talk a little

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>bit about Hoops, the playoffs, the playing system. I love it.

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I know it's moving the lines all over the place.

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It looks like a lot of these teams were not

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.959
<v Speaker 1>prepared for the physical play and how much the reps

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna let them play. You see the way Memphis

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>got beat up. It looks like they're a little light

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>in the ass. That probably has got the lines moving,

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like the stock market. What's going on? Well, I think

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I probably have to address my traunto pick of last week. First.

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It seems like I was dead wrong about the Raptors.

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm officially on the Sixers, clean Sweep, four

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 1>oh bandwagon Boy. They look really good and they're playing

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>complete basketball. So let's just get that one out of

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 1>the way. Let me just say, in your defense, that

0:46:55.880 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 1>was a stupid pick no matter what, So there to

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>be different. I guess there's some great series. I think

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the Celtics nexts one that you guys talked about is

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.879
<v Speaker 1>a really good one and that's probably the series to watch.

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>But there are some blood baths now. I mean the

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Heat just absolutely smoked the Hawks the other day. Sons

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>look really good. Bucks look really good. I think there's

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these first round series that are meaningless.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>But what I got, and I mentioned this last week,

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Golden State looks awesome. Golden State took Game two yesterday.

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they were down fifteen at one point in

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the second quarter and just completely dismantled the Nuggets. And

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it shows what what the Nuggets have to deal with.

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>If you don't have top talent that can defend on

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the perimeter, you're in a lot of trouble. So it

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just Clay, it wasn't just Staff, it was Jordan Poole.

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've got a lot of perimeter shooting Draymond

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.399
<v Speaker 1>as well. What's going to be interesting is you start

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>seeing them play teams like the Suns. Eventually in the

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>conference finals, can they keep up with a guy like

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Hayton because interior defense is gonna be the liability. So

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>so far, it's I know, it's only been a couple

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of games really good. I'm all in on the Warriors bandwagon.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>So the couple of things I've been looking at is

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Warriors to beat an exact team, So Warriors to beat

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the Sixers, Heat and Bucks, those different prices. I like

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors to take take care of the Suns in

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the conference finals, and then it's beating the Sixers, beating

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the Heat, beating the buckst one. You can sprinkle ten

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty on each of those and you have a pretty

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>decent sized payout. I know the Sun's look really good again.

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I said this last week. They're just too chalk. Vegas

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 1>knows it. Everyone knows it, and it's hard to bet

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>them because it's just you're you're betting a lot to

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>win a little at this point. So something has to

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>happen where they go down a couple of games in

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.479
<v Speaker 1>a series in my opinion, for you even think about

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.919
<v Speaker 1>betting them, because plus two hundred to win the NBA

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Finals is essentially nothing on the futures market. Well, let's

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 1>look games specific as this air's Thursday. There are two

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>big games Thursday night. You mentioned Golden State is up

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to games on Denver, but that spread is only one

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and a half points favoring the Warriors. Obviously, Why is

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that number so low? Yeah, I think they just assumed

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Denver is gonna be rocking. I mean, not much has changed.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Denver did look really good in the first half, but

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just can they compete with the levels of that

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:20.840
<v Speaker 1>perimeter shooting. So it's probably a little bit of a

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 1>trap line, but it's one of those things until I

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>see otherwise, I think you have to take the Warriors

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and they probably went in four, maybe in five. Yeah,

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and then Dallas Utah that series is tied up. They

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>play Thursday as well, and that's a little bit bigger.

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Utah favored by seven and a half. What do you

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>think about that number? Yeah, I guess it depends. I

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:43.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know what Lucas situation is right now. I don't

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>know if it's just day to day. But Jillon Brunson

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and Max Cleber they looked awesome. I mean they the

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>name of their game yesterday was as little turnovers as possible,

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's what led them to six seven point when

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever was So if they don't turn the ball over,

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 1>they got a shot. But hard to do that two

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>games in a row. So I'm probably either going to

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>tease down the Jazz or take them out right at

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that seven or six and a half, whatever it ends

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 1>up in. Is there a rule of thumb in playoffs

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>with point total because it seems like it's such a

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>different game in the playoffs. Yeah, it's you know, I

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have friends that talk about ref matchups, So what refs

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 1>are actually calling the games? Are they going it's like

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the old Jordan games, like the old nineties games, like

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>who's going to call the game? Is gonna be bullyball?

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna let you get away with stuff? Are

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>they gonna call every tikki tack foul? And I think

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>that's actually somewhat logical to think about. If you're gonna

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.240
<v Speaker 1>call every tiki tach foul and you're playing the Warriors

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>or playing the Nets as an example, and you're gonna

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have Kyrie and Katie at the line thirty times, then

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it's probably good to take the over because the clock

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>stop in every half a minute. But it depends. I mean,

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>there's so many variables. I typically stay away from the

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>over unders. I like to just take take spreads for

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that reason. But it varies, and you'll have some series

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>where it's a U when you're playing you know, the

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 1>old Memphis Grizzlies of a couple of years ago, where

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you have like Zach Randolph and those guys where you

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>know they're gonna be low scoring games and you know

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what to expect. But a lot of these teams can

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>get hot and hot, meaning score a hundred forty points

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's nothing, which is crazy, and you know nowadays NBA, Yeah,

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that's with the three point line. And that was a

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 1>great question because really I watched a couple of these

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>games and the refs really swallowing their whistle and a

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. And so let me take you to

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the young exciting matchup Memphis and Minnesota. That's gonna looks

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like it's gonna go back and forth. What's the line

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>looking like for that? And who do you got? Uh?

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>It's funny with Memphis that like traditionally they are more

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>efficient team without jaw, but jaws incredible to watch. I

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>want to lean them because I think they have such

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a complete team. But that is one of those series

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that can go six seven games. That to me is

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 1>one of those toss ups. One of those teams probably

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go that far. So second third round you don't

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 1>see them. There's this is one of those where they

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>just beat each other up, so Lean Memphis, but it's

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a toss up. I mean, you have such a good

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>young Minnesota team. Anthony Edwards is awesome to watch, so

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you see them more years to come. And it's

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>not just the one off here, but this is the

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>future of the NBA in that game, right there. Yeah,

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, for sure, good stuff, Pete, Thanks so much.

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to bet on this weekend. It's gonna

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun. But next week we definitely

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 1>got to roll up our sleeves and really dig into gambling.

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>The NFL Draft and you, Honese, I may be a

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>texting you a couple of ideas as you are an

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:37.399
<v Speaker 1>illegal gambling state of which I live in Kansas City.

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Is Missouri or Kansas going to legalize first? That's a

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>funny question. So without without getting too political on this,

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but there seems like they're fighting with one another to

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>see who can who can get it done first. It's

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:51.720
<v Speaker 1>always been Kansas on the list. I'd love to lobby

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>for either one. Yeah, right, one of them is coming.

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, they're both trying to aim for

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.879
<v Speaker 1>this year, which will be exciting. But I think they're

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>fighting to see who can get into Okay, yeah, because

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 1>we have two states, So I really don't care at

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this point. I don't care, so our big Kansas City listenership,

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll appreciate that. Final question, Pete, thanks so

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>much for your time. We appreciate you as always, and

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to you next week. See A. Well, that

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fun. Thanks so much to Mike

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Runner for Pro Football Focus for sharing us a little

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>bit of time in previewing the draft. There's so much

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to dig into and we got to bring in the

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>experts every week to do that. Make sure to follow

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<v Speaker 1>at Ben MGM on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok surprisingly

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:40.840
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0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.399
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<v Speaker 1>See you next Thursday.