1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Let's hear it for the Man, the Myth, 4 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: the Legend. Super producer, mister Max Williams. 5 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Huzzah, you good child. 6 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: You would pick to do a sports episode when I 7 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: was six. I think this is intense. My breath, I'm 8 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: going to talk too much. 9 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was raucous applause heard from a distance. Oh, 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: as I was also just doing a breath check. Do 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: I have coffee breath? I should? I probably do. 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh, that's the best thing about us recording remotely. We 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: can't smell our mutual coffee breath shut out by the 14 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: way to our other super producer, all of the coffee. 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Indeed, I'm out of oat milk though today, guys, so 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm not at my best. I know it's just doesn't 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: add anything to the kick of the coffee, but it's 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: just something about the balance of the flavor. It doesn't right, 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: but it's still pretty good. I went ice today. How 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: about you, Ben? What kind of coffee beverage are you Rockins? 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: You're an old brown. I'm Ben Bullen. We're all fans 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: of coffee. I drink my coffee straight, probably to a 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: dangerous degree. 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: Ud jar. Yeah. 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Max is actually getting pretty big into the coffee business. 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: We were talking off air a while back, and Max 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: has a system of coffee creation, a cold brew coffee 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: creation that is on the level of becoming a sport Ben. 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: I like your demonstration of transitional prowess here. We're gonna 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: talk about other kinds of prowess today. Sports. I'm not 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: really much of a sporte like that. 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you like the vibe much a vibe at 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: a live event. 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm a vibe based human being, that is true. If 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: the vibe is right, then I'm there for it. I'm 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: trying to think when the last time I went to 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: a live sporting event was. It's been many years. Does 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: Monster Truck Rally count as a sporting event? Definitely? Okay, 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: well I went to that with both of you and 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Max actually, as it were, even convinced my girlfriend to 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: go with us. And my kid, who has let's just 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: say some potential to be overstimulated, did not have a 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: good time at the Monster Truck Rally. 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Dude, It's funny because when you bring up monster truck rallies. 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: It reminds me. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: That that must look so strange. If you traveled from 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: ancient meso America to the modern day and you saw 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: a monster truck rally, you would feel like you had 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: discovered a new religion. 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Or the hell had opened up and the demons are 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: now on earth in the form of giant car eating 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: fire breathing machines, and. 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: That would be your religion. That's a weirdly specific thing. 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait till we do time travel. 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: But I'm your God now right right, truck Asaurus, all 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: hail bow down before. 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: What we're talking about in something that may become a 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: series today is weird sports, by which we mean sports 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: we consider incredibly odd for one reason or another. 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: Can we also just take this moment to take back 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: the word weird, Like I more or less appreciate what 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: the the lefties are doing and trying to, you know, 63 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: co opt that word as an insult. But you know what, 64 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm over it. Weird is cool. We're wonderfully weird here 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: on ridiculous history. Yeah, keep Austin weird. 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Also, weird was a good Minnesota level insult. 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: I guess right, I guess that was the basis, because 68 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: old what is it, Chris Christoph Waltz, that's funny. So 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: we're weird. 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: We are talking about these sports that may not be 71 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: familiar to a lot of people. Now, look, if you 72 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: live in the United States, really, regardless of where you 73 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: live or whether or not you care for sports, when 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: you think of the term or the concept, you immediately 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: conjure images of your favorite athletes, the most memorable game 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: you have played or watched. 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: Shout out to Dodgers fans, by the way, good on y'all. 78 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 2: Your team won the World Series, right, And he says 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: he does it no sports. 80 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: I got to sit over her and think of an 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: excuse to say they didn't actually win the World Series, 82 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: like how they won in twenty twenty. Everyone's like, well, 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 3: that was a fake World Series, But congratulations Rogers. 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: You sound a little bitter, Max. 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: Well, I heard any Atlanta and LA have been the 86 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: two best teams and all for like the last five 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: years or so, so it's just been kind of robberly. 88 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: But you know, I love a tany, I love Muki Batts, 89 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: and I love Freddy Freeman obviously the rest of them. 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: I love anybody named Muki or Freddie. 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: And you'll probably think of the logos of your favorite teams. 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: You might think of some of the world's most popular sports, 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: like soccer or football as it's called in the rest 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: of the world, or American football, right right, basketball or baseball. 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: And we had a long discourse in our research here 96 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: when we were having what Corporate America would call a 97 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: healthy conversation about how you should not call baseball a 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: World Series. If none of the teams from the Caribbean, 99 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: South America or East Asia can participate, the World Series 100 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: is just the US and Canada, right. 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: I never thought of that. That is a little bit 102 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: of a misnomer. 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: Counter being the way of a Champions League, which is 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: like the club soccer equivalent to the World Cup. That's 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: kind of what the World. 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: Cup is like. 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: Is the best Japanese players in the world, the best 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: Caribbean players, the best South American players, they all play. Honestly, 109 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: the highest level ones play in America. This is the 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: highest circuit. It's the same way. Look how the English 111 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: Premier League and a number of other European leagues are 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: the highest soccer ones. But now they have the World 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: Baseball Classic, which if you do not know the United 114 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: States has never won, all right, they lost to Japan. 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: So that's my counter there. 116 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: Well, that's telling you what the United States is definitely 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: known for him is curling. Ah, yes, if you heard 118 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 2: if I was being. 119 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: Fasious, it worked if you are Max. Of course, when 120 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: you hear the word sports, you probably just thought of curling. 121 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: To Mill's point, and please check out our not one episode, 122 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: but our multi episode series on Curly. 123 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: It was never going to not be a multi part 124 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: it was never not going to be. But in today's episode, 125 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: we're going to cut through kind of the basics, you know, 126 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: the obvious candidates for for sporting leisure activities, and we're 127 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: going to delve into some much lesser known feats of 128 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: strength and physical prowess games that are were or are 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: insanely popular in their region or also time and seem to, 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: at least outside observers, to be a little bit odd. 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: But we know that that term is a little bit loaded, 132 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: because you know, one person's odd is another person's normal. 133 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: So you know, let's let's dive in. I'm hoping I'm 134 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: saying it right, is it? It's not to be confused 135 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: with another naughty or word it's Bouzkashi. 136 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh you got it, You got it, And I applaud 137 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: you for keeping our family show VIV going. 138 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: I didn't even give you the ammunition needed to google 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: the other words. So that's right. 140 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: And since we mentioned Japan earlier, technically that word is 141 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: a food dish. 142 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: That's right. 143 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we will not take our minds out of 144 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: the gutter. I do appreciate that idea about perspective there, 145 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: because one person's crazy is another person's normal. Think about, 146 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: for instance, like when you hear us discuss this stuff. 147 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: However strange it may sound, please remember that you probably 148 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: have some things in your life that sound very strange 149 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: to outsiders. I always love the example of neckties. 150 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: Were it a tie, it's weird? What's it for? What 151 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: does it do? Yeah? It holds your tie pin collection, 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: that's yeah. You know what would set off my three 153 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: piece suit? A useless scarf, A thing that looks like 154 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: a scarf but doesn't do it anyway. Sorry, we digress. 155 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: We should do We should do a history of neckties. 156 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: We should because its yeah, the policy wonks rock and 157 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: the bow tie. We also have we have a short 158 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: brain stuff video on it where we figure out. No, 159 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: no spoilers, nobody look that up. Why does of Islam 160 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: guys all wear bow ties? Where did that come from? 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: So many questions that we will explore in a future 162 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: episode on the history of ties. 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: And while we're working on that, oh, we cannot wait 164 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: to introduce you to, as Noel said, Buzkashi, which is 165 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: best stereotyped as the dead goat sport of Afghanistand. 166 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm on board. Tell me Mark, all right, yeah, 167 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: you're interested. All right. 168 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: So this is a traditional, very old sport in the area, 169 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: actually in Central Asia overall that involves horse riding, teamwork 170 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: and the skillful control of a dead goat or calf carcass. Okay, 171 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: so it's like carcass polo. 172 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: Yes, nailed it. But you use your hand instead of 173 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: a stick. 174 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Depends on where you're at. Yeah, yeah, you do use 175 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: your hands. It's rugby on a horse. It's tough with 176 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: a carcass. 177 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: What is this thing in the middle they're all flopping into. 178 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: It's like a giant dog dish that they sort of 179 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: bail out into. What the heck? Yeah? Wow? Is that 180 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: how you score? Oh? It is that's the goal. You 181 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: deposit the carcass into the dog dish, but sometimes you 182 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: go with it with your whole body. We're watching a 183 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: YouTube video. This is nuts. So we're watching YouTube video. Folks. 184 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: You should watch it like sports now. Yeah, it's it 185 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: is a wild ride. I actually ran late to recording. 186 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: I think I told you guys. I'm sorry. 187 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm in this rabbit hole of Buzkashi videos Like, Noel, 188 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: could you describe what you're seeing? 189 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Oh? I think I already did, but I'll gladly do 190 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: it again. It's literally like all of these dudes on 191 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: horses smacking each other's horses on the butt like it 192 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: seems like it's a no hole's barred type situation. They're right, 193 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: and these tight packs, and I guess they're vying for 194 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: control of this literal like dead goat looking thing, which 195 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: I will get into in a little bit about like 196 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: what's the modern you know, substitute for actual dead goat carcass. 197 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, they deposit it into this giant like it 198 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: looks like a mound kind of or really a dog dish, 199 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: I think is the best way to describe it. But 200 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: sometimes they'll just dive in along with it, and people 201 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: are diving after them to try to I guess, knock 202 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: it out of the goal. They use these riding crops. 203 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: It is they're wearing furry hats. Yes, yes, and also 204 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: I we have to do it. We're going to play 205 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: just a brief clip of the audio that I would 206 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: argue does not match for this so very reserved. It's 207 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: actually it's like no commentary, no shade to. 208 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Our past, our past endeavors. But it reminds me of 209 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: some of the best stock music we would use in 210 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: brain stuff. 211 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: Got it, okay, golds Bob in his head, got a 212 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: littlettention in it? Okay, all right, okay, ah ah right, okay, 213 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: that's what we need. 214 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: We need an ad lib on that. Yeah. Anyway, so 215 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: we we invite you to this rabbit hole of clips 216 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: that are just as nol described, clearly expert equestrians, horsemen 217 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: who are passing around this literal dead body in rugby 218 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: style like they're going for it. They're getting it. This 219 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: is believed to have been played as early as the 220 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: tenth century. Oh and bluskashi means goat grabbing. 221 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: That's accurate. That's accurate description of what I'm seeing here. 222 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: I just paused it on a frame and it's just 223 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: like melee there on top of each other on these 224 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: with these horses, And like I said, the riding crops, 225 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: it seems more designed for smacking the other person's horse 226 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: to get them to like giddy up in the wrong 227 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: direction or something. I don't know. I wanted to. 228 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Get knocked off their horses into the dish. 229 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Is there a professional association of this sport with codified rules? 230 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: It seems just like I said, every every player for 231 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: themselves to answer that question. No one is sure how 232 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: buzkashi or goat grabbing in Dari, the version of Persian 233 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: language has spoken in a lot of Afghanistan, where it 234 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: originated on the steps of Central Asia. But one possible 235 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: theory involves the evolution of the sports centuries ago as 236 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: a battle exercise for Mongol raiders, which I could see 237 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: that makes sense as like running a running a simulation 238 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: of what it might be like to have to like 239 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: do battle a top horse pack. 240 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and for everybody asking, we'll get into the rules. 241 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: But first thing you should know you don't get points 242 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: for getting knocked off your horse. And these guys are 243 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: getting smacked off their horses left and right pursuing this goat. 244 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of it's it's like rugby, it's like hockey, 245 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: but as you said, on a horse, uh yeah, yeah yeah. 246 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: And these days it's played across Eurasia. Depending on which 247 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: of the stands you're in, you might see different rules 248 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, there are they're not really specific 249 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: codified rules for how to play this game. Like in 250 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: Kizikhstan and Kazakhstan they have a team format and you 251 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: throw the calf, carcass or the goat into those raised goals. 252 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: And I love your description. It does look like a 253 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: big dog dish, like a dish for Clifford the giant 254 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: red dog. And you mentioned something else. Nowadays, because this 255 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: sport is still extremely popular nowadays, they're not necessarily using 256 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: actual carcasses. They're using like fake faux carcasses for carcass. 257 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, like like like the fake first, so you don't 258 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: get paint dumped on you. But problem there is if 259 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: they look too real, you're still going to get the paint. 260 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: And in parts of western China, like I think to 261 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Xinyang and stuff like that, the mounts, the people are 262 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: riding yaks instead of horses, And I get to be 263 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: honest with you, guys, I don't know the difference between 264 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: the ground speed of a yak versus the ground speed 265 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: of a horse. I always problem it feels like it 266 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: like I always pictured horses as the faster ones. 267 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: But I don't know. Yaks have always struck me as 268 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: being a little on the weedy side. You know, they 269 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: got thin little legs. I just don't feel like they'd 270 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: have the stamina that a horse would have. Maybe that's 271 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: just what they've got laying around. You know, they got 272 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: more ya so you know, you know what, Ben, We're 273 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: looking up some pictures of yaks right now, and they're 274 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: not the animals that I was quite picturing. I don't know, 275 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: I was weird thinking al Paka or so Lama maybe, 276 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: but I was pictured maybe a cartoon yaks, or like 277 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: an emaciated yak from Ren and Stimpy. Weren't there weird yaks? 278 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: And there was yaks in Ren and Stimpy. They had 279 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: like the Yaks Club or the the like an Elks 280 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: lodge thing, but it was with yaks, and they were 281 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: always real diseased and weedy looking. But these boys are 282 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: furry and beefy. They're like a buffalo, Yes, yeah. 283 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo, like the younger, smaller cousin of a bison. But 284 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: to be quite honest, they don't look like they can 285 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: run as quickly as a horse. 286 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Deck is sure, buck though. Yeah they got the horns, 287 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: twenty horns. That seems like I would add a level 288 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: of danger to an already quite dangerous sport. So let's 289 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: go back. That's a great point. 290 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Let's go back to that theory, uh, that this was 291 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: a training exercise for Mongol forces. Right, we know that 292 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: part of the reason the Connates existed and got all 293 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the way to Hungary is because the cavalry was amazing. 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: They had they had horsemanship that was unprecedented at their time. 295 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: So perhaps these nomadic tribes gamified their practice, right, they 296 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: honed their riding and hunting skills, and then over time 297 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: it becomes a popular sport in the region. And it 298 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: you know, what it reminds me of is all the 299 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: sports that require a lot of equipment. Like a lot 300 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: of kids in the US never play American football because 301 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: you have to buy so much stuff just to get 302 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: on the field. 303 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: The pads, the helmet, the mean football is expensive. Yeah. 304 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: No pigskin, right right, right, yeah, the old pigskin. So 305 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: we got to be careful not to judge these people, 306 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: isn't that right? 307 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: Is American football just another form of throwing around a 308 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: faux carcass. 309 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: Without even the horses. So you can't really play this 310 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: game unless you have a worse And this, again from 311 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, seems like a fascinating thing to be 312 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: good at. You can tell their pro buskashi players. However, 313 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: the fun Police came in to Afghanistan. 314 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: Damn it, fun police. I hate it when they show 315 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: up bus kills. 316 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the name wrong one time. I thought 317 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: the fun Police were pro fun. 318 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: No, no, sir, Yes, they're here to police your fun, 319 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: shut it down, they say when they come upon a 320 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: child's birthday party. 321 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: Or like that movie Footloose is nothing for some reason. 322 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: Band it's a bit of a puritanical kind of mindset, 323 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: that's true. And in this case, the ultra conservative Taliban 324 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: are these, said fun police. We've heard of them. They 325 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: banned a buskashi and many other forms of entertainment, citing 326 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: them as being immoral, but of course, like many things 327 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: that are attempted to be suppressed, they continue to thrive. Mmmm. 328 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ultra conservative Taliban. 329 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: You know them, You know you know, you do know, 330 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: you do know they're in the news. Yeah, they're around. 331 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: And during their rule they bands, like you said, this 332 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: sport because they found it somehow contra you know, they 333 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: fund policed it. And with the larger fall of the Taliban, 334 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: the sport became popular again. Their international tournaments across Eurasia 335 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: and the Afghan government, which is not the world's most 336 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: perfect government, promotes bouskashi as a symbol of national identity. 337 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: They want you to go watch a buskasi game. 338 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 2: So with that in mind, maybe we should, you know, 339 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: talk about how the sport is played. Uh, because as 340 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: an American myself, I'm still a bit hazy on the 341 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: rules of American football. There's something to do with downs 342 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: and running in directions and then count the quarters of 343 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: the game, I believe. 344 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: And you it's called football, but you only run it 345 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: with your hands. There's a little bit of kicking one. 346 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: There's a special moment. 347 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: There's a special time that the special boy gets to 348 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: kick the special ball, the special boy the Golden foot. 349 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: Shout out to Nate Bargates as well for his amazing 350 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live stuff. We got his George Washington sketch 351 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: in particular, Max, the spirit has moved you. 352 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: Well, So the best way to think about downs and 353 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: football is how many trench warfare? 354 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Trench warfares? Right warfare? Okay, Okay, Basically you get. 355 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: Like four tries to move the line and then once 356 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: you move the line to make a new line and 357 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: something like that, it's trench warfare. 358 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Okay. Hey, you know what, Max, I'm sorry I was 359 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: poopooing you there. That is actually the best description of 360 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: it in a way that I can understand from a 361 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: historical level. Being you know, history podcast. 362 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: Nerds, I try to bridge the gap between being a 363 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: history nerd and a sports nerd with a plumb. I 364 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 3: have the benefit of having a lot of non sport 365 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: hosts in my family and my friend group. 366 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: Thank you Max for you brought the porto. Yeah, I 367 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: said it first. Now I said brought it back. I said, 368 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: brought it back to sporto. I think that's a British 369 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: thing and maybe even Australia, because they'll even say if 370 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 2: someone's a news reporter, they'll call them news oh's, and 371 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: if someone is a musician, they call them muso's. And 372 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: if someone goes to McDonald's they call it Macca's that's 373 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: weird now, I think you're talking about Paul McCartney. There 374 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: is that what they call them, They just call them macca. 375 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: People call Paul McCartney macca. It's a thing. You gotta 376 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: put syr on it. Though Australia, you're part of the 377 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: common one. What's some respect on this? Oh? Speaking of which, 378 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt this, but did you see that King 379 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: Charles recently did a diplomatic visit to Australia and an 380 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: indigenous member of the Australian whatever equivalent of Congress protested 381 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: it very loudly and said, you know, Colonizer, give us 382 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: back what you stole and all this stuff we don't 383 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: And she's I can't remember her name. I love this 384 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: person because she even said, you know, they have to 385 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: take an oath to the king, to the royal family, 386 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: and she said, I did not swear fealty to the 387 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: Queen's heirs. When I said the oath, I said her hairs. 388 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I did read about it, freaking absolutely also 389 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: a ninja level. 390 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know the name. Yeah, it's up with throwing 391 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: a shoe at an American politician to. 392 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: Claim that you are not beholden to your oath because 393 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: you said hairs instead of airs. So the Indigenous senator 394 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: was Lydia or is Lydia Thorpe th h Orpe? 395 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: That this one. I read the headline, but I did 396 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: not know the name. And with that your your point 397 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: about hair's h A I R S versus h E 398 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I R S. 399 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the parkour we're looking for. No, 400 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: not today. But you gotta admit though, with an Australian accent, 401 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: you could very easily kind of blur the line between 402 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: as and has. You know, I'm just saying you could 403 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: shout out Robin Thick indeed in the thick of it. 404 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to derailist. I think 405 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: it was. Let's talk about what what what? What makes? 406 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: What does a Boo's Kashi team make? 407 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to hip you to this because we 408 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: don't want you to be stuck like some of us 409 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: out in Ireland watching a game of cricket and having 410 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: no idea what's going on? 411 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: Is that? What's happening with you right now? Ben? It 412 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: looks like you're in your home. I guess I could 413 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: just be a do you only stay in hotels in 414 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: Ireland that look exactly like your living room. 415 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: I only stay in places that look exactly like Dexter's 416 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: kill room. Got with this with the plastic sheets on No, 417 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: I'm under I'm doing human stuff. I get a poster 418 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: of our other show on. 419 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: The back here I'm doing human today. Right. So, so 420 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: you got ten ten to a team? Right? Or is 421 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: that a hard and fast number. 422 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: Or depends on where you go. So it's a it's 423 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: a large field. There are two teams. Each team has 424 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: ten humans and therefore ten horses. And usually you're gonna 425 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: have a carcass. 426 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: Go or a calf. Often there is a carcass right right. 427 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: Or you know, some sort of symbolic representation, right, some 428 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: kind of pig skin. 429 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: Perhaps, have you ever been Naikea? Or they have those 430 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: fake like cow rugs. You know, I don't think they're 431 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: actually made of cow, but they look at You could 432 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: probably rock one of those in a good old friendly 433 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: game of buzkashi. 434 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: A good friendly game of Buzkashi. 435 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: I love it. Just sew it up. 436 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Here's the gross part or the other growth spart just 437 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: for practicality, the head and the limbs of this carcass 438 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: are removed. The object of the game, like you said earlier, 439 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: NOL is for a horseman to pick up the carcass 440 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: from the ground and carry it to the opposing team's goal. 441 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: It's like the old capture of the flag game. 442 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've spent very little time on horseback, but just 443 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: looking at it, I mean it is quite a distance 444 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: from the top of the horse to the ground, depending 445 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: on the size of the horse. You have to be good. 446 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: There's a certain skill level required, there's a learning curve. 447 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: And they're not strapped in or anything. They're leaning down 448 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: and just scooping this thing up off the ground, all 449 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: while being pursued heavily and aggressively by other horsemen. 450 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, who are hitting you and hitting your horse And 451 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: there's not really a fourth down here. And I want 452 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: to co sign you and cosign Max Max. That was 453 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: an excellent explanation of US football, especially given the science 454 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: of how they make the line appear on US football, 455 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: it's I don't want to get too house. 456 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: Stuff works, you not. 457 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: But did you hear that they this season in the 458 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: NFL they plan to get rid of the chains like 459 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: you know? Yes I did, And did you hear they 460 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: didn't do it. They're still there. No, I have looked 461 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: into it. They're still there. They still use them, of. 462 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: Course they still do. Come on, man, Vegas has too 463 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: much riding on this. 464 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: It's a multi billion dollar sport. And then they rely 465 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: on two dudes jogging somewhat correctly and lines over and 466 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 3: they can't put a camera angle over the goal one 467 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: or anything. 468 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 469 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: It's also it's also uh oh gosh, it is this 470 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: sport that is most riddled with commercials during during playtime. 471 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: Ooh, I wish you guys could see Max's face right there. Well, 472 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's sort of that one thing I do 473 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: understand about the nature of the way the game is played. 474 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: It is played in little spurts, and it is conducive 475 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: to being interrupted by advertising. 476 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: And then now they're putting advertisements in like thirty second spots. 477 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: I personally not the biggest football guy at this point 478 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: in my life. I watched just NFL Red Zone, which 479 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: is no commercials at all. 480 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, just give me the compilations of what actually happened. 481 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: That may be I'd never have the compilations of the commercials, 482 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: you know. I feel like we should do a history 483 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: of the halftime show. 484 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: Oh boy, should we ever? I don't even know when 485 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: the first one was we did. We were coming on 486 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: with so many ideas on the flight tip and just. 487 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: I know we're going further down's rabbit hole. One big 488 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 3: difference between the Super Bowl and just regular NFL is 489 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: super Bowl is all brand new ads almost always, Like 490 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: these companies are really going all out for normal football. 491 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: It is the same like twenty ads the entire. 492 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 2: Uh sucking season. 493 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: Leap yourself there, except for in college football where it's 494 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: the same twenty ads for five years. 495 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: And they give all those dollars to the players there 496 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: in college football. Right they're starting to, They are starting to. 497 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: They are starting to also. I think you earned it, Max, 498 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: with the facts. 499 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: That seeking in the phone and peaceful in knowledge. It's 500 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: just for you right now, with the fact yeah, give 501 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: it to them. 502 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: So for a live audience member of Buskashi, you'll see 503 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: it's a long event. The game is generally divided into 504 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: two forty five minute periods. There's a fifteen minute break 505 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: in between. And to your earlier question, Noel, there are 506 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: no codified rules about how the game is played. It 507 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: can be pretty rough. We described how the players are 508 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: hitting each other, pushing each other. 509 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: You can't have a weapon, you know what I mean. 510 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: You can't just stab some guys. I know, but they 511 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: do have these writing crops, but they are absolutely spanking 512 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: the other players. Okay, well, how kind of a weapon. 513 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Hockey players have hockey sticks, that's true. This thing is 514 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: more like a blackjack though, or like what do they 515 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: call it in the UK? A truncheon, you know. 516 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: And the witty tea, of course, is the one that 517 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: gets the most goals. 518 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: You get to take the carcass home. Is that is 519 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: that part of your winnings. It depends on where you're playing. Okay, 520 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: fair and you know. 521 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: I guess it's a tenderized corpse at that point. 522 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Right. 523 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Uh, it's more than a sport, Like we said, it's 524 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: a symbol of national identity. You play it during important 525 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: holidays celebrations. It's uh, it's considered a tradition, kind of 526 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: the way that baseball is considered an American tradition. Right, 527 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: we all love going to the ballgame. 528 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: It's as Afghanistani as a severed headed goat carcass, right right? 529 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Or or also Afghan cuisine is pretty good. I wonder 530 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: what their equivalent of apple pie is. 531 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably goat pie. Okay, I don't know. I would 532 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: eat that, by the way, and I love goat The 533 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: only issue. Have you ever had Caribbean food that has. 534 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: Ghosts and they'll bone them? 535 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: Very well? No, you can do better. I mean sorry, 536 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just tradition, but I have often found like 537 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: deadly shards of bone and Caribbean goat dishes not so. 538 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: And like Indian goat dishes or Bangladesh she goat dishes, 539 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: they clean it much more precisely. Yeah. 540 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this another point. Maybe this ends up being 541 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: part one of part one, but another point on what 542 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: is American culture. When you hear the phrase American is 543 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: apple pie, people, please remember apples come from Kazakhstan. We're 544 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: fun at parties, but apple pie ben comes from America. 545 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: I feel like someone figured out pie first. I think 546 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: I saw an episode of one of those Gordon Ramsay 547 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: shows where he humiliates people with terrible restaurants or hotels. 548 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: He went to the inn that was failing. Of course, 549 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: that was supposedly the place where apple pie was invented. 550 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: Really yeah, sort of like the Caesar Sally was invented 551 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: by in Mexico City. I want to say, by a 552 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: chef at a particular hotel. 553 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, unrelated to the Greco Ruman. 554 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. It took me years to realize that unrelated. Always 555 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: assumed it was Julius's favorite salad. I think he got 556 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that guy even invented getting stabbed by 557 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of your friends. I've been stabbing for generations 558 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: before Julius came along. 559 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do a history of apples. I think 560 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: a history of stabbing is. 561 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: The apple pie originated in England. 562 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: The apple pie apple, but the apples are from Kazakhstown 563 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: to the idea. 564 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: Of making it a pie made it all the way 565 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: from It was developed from culinary influences from France. It is, 566 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: of course, is French pastry and the Netherlands and even 567 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: the Automan Empire. It's not American at all. 568 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. This is like when you see a 569 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: T shirt. This has made in the USA with materials 570 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: from Yeah. 571 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh I haven't seen that that. I'm sorry. So how 572 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: I feel about truck nuts? Who are we to judge? 573 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: Are we to judge? All right? All right? 574 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Well this is also Buskashi is a way for the 575 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: public to judge off gonen men. All the buskashi players 576 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: are our male This is a way for them to 577 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: judge bravery, horsemanship, physical prowess, as we mentioned at the beginning. 578 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of kids, you know, like in that 579 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: movie bend At, like Beckham, a lot of kids in 580 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: the area grow up dreaming of becoming notable buskashi players. 581 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: And it is not uncommon for families to put a 582 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: lot of money into, you know, editing the right equipment, 583 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: finding the best horse, finding the best buskashi mentor for 584 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: our child. 585 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: As we know, many, no, at least the degenerate gamblers 586 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 2: among us know, a big part about knowing how to 587 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: bet on horse races is knowing the abilities, the weaknesses, 588 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: the vulnerabilities, how long a particular horse has been racing. 589 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: All of that stuff really matters. So yeah, that would 590 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: honestly be just as if not more important than the 591 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: physicality of the player. 592 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent agreed, because the horses are kind 593 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: of doing the real work, right. 594 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, there is physicality involved in 595 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: the players, you know, much more so than horse racing 596 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: or I would say, I mean Polo's you know, certainly 597 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: revolves some precision, but they are bending down, putting their 598 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: lives at risk to be to be having their faces 599 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: trampled to whip this rug the off the dirt. 600 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're so into this right now that we 601 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: know there are a lot of problems with buskashi, but 602 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: it is fascinating, and together we found quite a few 603 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: parallels to other sports, so much so that I think 604 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: we might have to save well, what do you think. 605 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: I think we have to save our next one for 606 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: a future episode, for a part two of part one, 607 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: Poka talk the ballgame. 608 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: It's true, and I agree with you, Ben. I think 609 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: Muzkashi captured all three of our imaginations and we went 610 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: on a little bit more about it than we expected, 611 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 2: And we do have another kind of deeper dive into 612 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: that other sport that you mentioned, Ben, But for now, 613 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: let's just rattle through a few fun candice and trivia 614 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: on some other bizarre sports that are a little more nugget. 615 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, okay, fight sized, yes, yes, purposeful two parter. 616 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm so excited that we're talking about this 617 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: on air finally. I feel like you and I have 618 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: mentioned this on previous shows, but to go down together, 619 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: we learned. I think the same video went viral and 620 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: we both saw it or something, but we learned there 621 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: is another kind of equestrian sport called hobby horsing. 622 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: I'm pretending to ride a horse, Daddy, look at me, 623 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: Look at me, leap. It's basically just jumping over hurdles 624 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: carrying a stuffed animal. 625 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: But they're they're you know, they ride it like a 626 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: broom or I guess a horse like the bluz Kashi. 627 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: There are no limbs attached. 628 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: There's a stick that goes betwixt the legs, so you 629 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: are sort of mounting something. Yeah. 630 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's riding a hobby horse, which I don't 631 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: think is our hobby horse is still a popular toy. 632 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: I would say not popular. They are more of the 633 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: vintage variety. You think about them as like the kind 634 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: of president of kid in the eighteen hundreds would get 635 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: like Tiddley Winks or something. I can't remember when Tittley 636 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 2: Winks came around. Man, don't malign Tittley Winks. Tittley Wings 637 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: at the precursor to POGs, remembers. Yeah. Sure, yeah, I'm 638 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: still bullish on POGs. Heavily invested, heavily invested. 639 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: This sounds like a sketch you would see it. 640 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: I think you should leave to getting out of crypto 641 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 2: and putting everything into POGs baby. 642 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: Right, so we are describing this accurately. Hobby horsing involves 643 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: riding the imaginary horse over obstacles. 644 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: Do you have to bang coconuts together? While you're doing 645 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: you had somebody following behind you, perhaps your vale. 646 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we shouldn't detegrate it too hard. We're 647 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: outsiders from that culture, but we can't say it does 648 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: take physical prowess. 649 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: For sure, but it is more just like basically hurdles, 650 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: Like it's sort of a triathl a track and field 651 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: thing whilst clutching this weird toy between your legs. And 652 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: I will say, you know, we're mocking in a little bit. 653 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: But if you watch the video that Ben you linked to, 654 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: everyone's kind of smiling and laughing in the audience, it 655 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: does appear that there is a wink wink knowingness to 656 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: how goofy this whole thing comes off. 657 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's wholesome. You see it in Scandinavia. Right, 658 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Nobody is being hateful, and I'm glad we're pointing out 659 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: that we're not necessarily disparaging the sport. We get why, 660 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: we get why it's a grin worthy thing, but let's 661 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: also be honest. A lot of us listening tonight could 662 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: not do the same obstacle course as the hobby horsers. 663 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: It's tough. Is that the right word? Hobby horsers? Hobby 664 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 2: horse Yeah, hobby equestrians. You know what I don't now. 665 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: I think a questrian requires a live animal. I don't 666 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: think we should reserve that term for sentient beings. There's 667 00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: a line. 668 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: You and I have been to England at some point, 669 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: but we've never gone as a group. Have you ever 670 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: heard of this next thing? I'm on the fence about 671 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: whether this should be a sport, and i'd love our 672 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: sport expert maxed way into after you explain what this is. 673 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: Cover your shins, boys, shin kicking. That's what it is. 674 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 2: It's exactly what it sounds like. Started in the seventeenth 675 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: century in England. Simply involves two grown men kicking each 676 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: other in the shins until one of them falls to 677 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: the ground in pain. 678 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: Is it like something that started at a bar? The 679 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: way the Guinness Book of World Records? 680 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: Have you guys heard the controversy around this, these professional 681 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: slap fighting events. Yes, people are getting like brain bleeds 682 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: and stuff. I mean it is gnarly. Have you ever 683 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 2: seen this? Guys are ridiculous historians out there as well. 684 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 2: It is a uf the Esque kind of sport that's 685 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: covered in that same way, with that same level of 686 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: extreme intensity, where there are two opponents face off against 687 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: each other and open handedly slap each other in the 688 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: face on the face with an open palm until one 689 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 2: of them falls out. So I would say shin kicking. 690 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 2: Got it? You ever been ever? They call it barking 691 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: your shins. Yes, it hurts. 692 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: It's because the bone is so close to the skids. 693 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. This would suck. What psychotic Sato Massac 694 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: has came up with this nonsense? You know how people get? 695 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: They suck? People suck. I don't know. 696 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm bullish on people. I see them as the POGs 697 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: of evolution. 698 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: I'm taking all my crypto and investing in people. Right. 699 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: I think they already tried that. I think it got canceled. 700 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: So okay, So uh, there were there were probably the 701 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: history is unclear, but there were probably a couple of 702 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: guys who got into clog fighting or purring as it's called. 703 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: Uh sometimes, yeah, I have a pr off. 704 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: There was probably some guy who barked his shin as 705 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: you say, and some other dude was like, oh, you 706 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: got weak shins, and he said. 707 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't have weak shins. I guess you. You go 708 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: the week sheds. I'll prove it kicking shds. You get 709 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: saw now, yeah I would Australia there. Sorry, the next thing, 710 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's a shin kicker off. You know, it's 711 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: just back and forth. It never ends when the violent 712 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: guy comes up and watches. 713 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we have to go to Max. Max 714 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: is shin kicking a sport? Or should it be considered such? 715 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: Is it even cool? 716 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 3: So all I'm thinking about is the movie Dodgeball, which 717 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 3: is an all time banger. 718 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: It's a fun movie. 719 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 3: Most of his age fine, some of it has aged poorly. 720 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Say, but those South Park guys were always equal opportunity offenders, 721 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 2: so I bet you it's within their wheelhouse. But maybe 722 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: is it worse. 723 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 3: There's some stuff that's bad and there's just this one 724 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: particular line which it's like, oh my god, that was 725 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 3: not fine when they said that, and it's so much 726 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: worse now. Anyways, to digress, I mean that movie is 727 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: just a hilarious, NonStop amount of ridiculousness. And the best 728 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: thing is, like the best joke of all time is 729 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 3: ESPN The O Show. It was like ESPN eight where 730 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 3: played all the obscure stuff and it's a super cut 731 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: of stuff beforehand. And one of those sports they show 732 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 3: that's on the show is two dudes just whipping each other. 733 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 3: And that's what this feels like. So yeah, it's ESPN 734 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 3: The Show level stuff. So yeah, it's a sport. Nascar 735 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: is a sport, Poker's a sport. We can call shin 736 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 3: kicking a sport, all right, Okay, that's the word would 737 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 3: probably argue. It's not around on a professional level. 738 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: I am so glad you asked, because in twenty twenty four, 739 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: shin Kicking the World shin Kicking Championships returned to the 740 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Cotswold Olympics spelled O L I M P I c K. 741 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: We have Olympics at home, kids, right, So it's pretty brutal. 742 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the key and Peel slaphand. Yeah 743 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: ye sketch. So this is this is pretty insane. These 744 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: people are hurting their legs. If you are they allowed 745 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: to wear shin guards, surely not. I think at some 746 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: point there was straw padding. Yeah, you have to wear 747 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 1: soft shoes now. People used to wear steel toed boots 748 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: which probably broke some legs, and you have to stuff 749 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: the legs of your trousers with straw. 750 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 2: So it's sort of meant to be a throwback the 751 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: old timey, sort of traditional type sports, right it would 752 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 2: seem if they're employing woolens and straw. 753 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: You know, there's so many rules, right, Like you you 754 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: obviously can't hit someone in the face. You have to 755 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: just hit their shins, and I imagine you have to 756 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: just because it's in the name. You can only kick 757 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 1: their shins. 758 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: And then then of course there's a sister sport, ass 759 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 2: kicking right right as you know, you got some built 760 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: in padding there, or you can just shove a phone 761 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: book down your pantaloons. Yeah, we've all been there. We 762 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: also haven't been to. Oh. 763 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: I think it was Halloween being on our minds recently 764 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: that because we are spoiler, this is coming out after Halloween, 765 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: but we're recording it on October thirty first. Oh, yeah, yes, 766 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: giants pumpkin kayaking. 767 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: Okay, see I didn't look into this one yet, so 768 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead. Is it literally a giant 769 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 2: pumpkin that has hollowed out and turned into a sea 770 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: faring vessel? I? Oh, water resistant vessel? Oh? I see. 771 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a recent one since nineteen ninety nine 772 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: in Windsor, Nova, Scotia, people get giant pumpkins and they 773 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: joined the Windsor Pumpkin Regatta. And this is more, This 774 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: is more like British baking show, you know what I mean. 775 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: They're all really nice and kind to each other and 776 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,959 Speaker 2: help each other out when they're punkins spring a leak. 777 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're having a ball, you know what I mean. 778 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: They're not throwing around a dead carcass. 779 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 2: They're not kicking. They're doing the pumpkin version of shin kicking. 780 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 2: It's it's a wholesome one. 781 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's where we end, unless you 782 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: want to mention one more pumpkin sport, which will be 783 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: very familiar to longtime fans of all our shows. 784 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 2: You mean punkin chunkin? I do, yeah, punkin chugging. Yes, yes, 785 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 2: I only heard about this recently, and I didn't even 786 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: really bother following up on what it was. I just 787 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: heard there's punkin Chunking going on. I'm like, that seems 788 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 2: delightfully seasonal. I don't think I know, is it literally? 789 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 2: Just like? Is it like? What's that game Cornhole? But 790 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: with pumpkins? Well? Have you ever thought I should build 791 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: a trebuche only every day when I wake up in 792 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 2: the morning. Then that's what keeps you going, right, do I? 793 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 2: And the fact that I never do it is the 794 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: only thing that keeps me going. I'm aspiring to it. 795 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: Once I accomplish it, my work is done. So punkin 796 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: Chunkin is this idea? Yeah, you don't need a you 797 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 2: don't need a tribute necessarily. It's chucking though, it's not chunking, 798 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 2: it's it's chucking. 799 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the idea is creating your own device, a catapult, 800 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: a slingshot, a tribute to shoot or chuck a pumpkin 801 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: as far as you can. And way back in the day, 802 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: too many years ago now, we were owned by a 803 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 1: company called Discovery, and Discovery. 804 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: They're having a bit of trouble these days. 805 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they had a show called punkin Chunkin. I 806 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: think we can say this now enough time has passed. 807 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: Every podcast that was around at the time had to 808 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: do an episode about punkin Chunkin. 809 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: That must have been where I heard about it for 810 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: the first time. Pumpkin chucking chucking. Yeah, but like you know, 811 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: colloquially they do sometimes refer to it as punkin junkin. 812 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 2: So but then, you know, this reminds me of It's 813 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: almost like the Pinewood Derby, you know where it is. 814 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 2: It's a technological challenge. I guess it showcases the pumpkins, 815 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: and you probably want a big fatty that splats real nice. 816 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: But basically you're being judged on your ability to engineer 817 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 2: a thing that throws another thing as far as possible, 818 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 2: which is engineering. Did you ever do Pinewood Derby? I did, 819 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 2: I did, and I don't think I did very well. 820 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: And all I remember from those days is like I 821 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 2: can't remember. Maybe you can answer this, is it illegal 822 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 2: to put coins to put weights? Well, because I know 823 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 2: people did it and I may have done it. But 824 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 2: now thinking back on and I'm like asking myself, was 825 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 2: that against the regulations? Well, it's kind of like are 826 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: you playing Muzkashi in Kyrghistan or in Kazakhstan. You know, 827 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: this was in Georgia, Oka the state. Just to be. 828 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: Uh, it's a because it's a cub Scout thing, right, 829 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: it was a cub Scout thing. 830 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 831 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: So when I was playing this, I knew that some 832 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: places would let you do weight and then some other 833 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: places would say no, it is entirely on how you 834 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: whittle the block. Yeah. 835 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: It does say here in Scout Life magazine that you 836 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 2: can also use fishing weights or coins to additional weight too, Okay, 837 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: so I hear that's the official it's a dot org ben, 838 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: it's a dot org okay, hot org. It's gotta be legit. Yeah, 839 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 2: it'll just give those to anybody. You gotta be an org. 840 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: The world record for pumpkin chucking stands at uh I 841 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: think five thousand, five hundred and forty five zero point 842 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: four to three feet. So for the rest of the world, 843 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: for everybody, is that Yeah, everybody outside of the US 844 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: and Namibia. I think that's one thousand and six one 845 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety and a quarter meters. 846 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: And that's hot takeaway, hot take from you here. What's 847 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 2: your perspective, what's your opinion on the metric system for 848 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 2: it or against it? Oh? For it? Yes? What are we? 849 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 2: What are we on about here in America? I don't 850 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: get it. It doesn't make sense. 851 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: Well yards in football, you know about the point though, 852 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: there's no rhyme or reason to it. 853 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: We just sort of use it as I don't know. 854 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: We should make up our own thing at this point, 855 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: Noel notches. There you go, Ben bounds, Matt Max. We 856 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: got to give max one max. 857 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, a max could be a weight. It's like a stone, 858 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: you know, one max, I weigh fifteen max. 859 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: Max is nodding in approval. I know the weather's on 860 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: top of you. 861 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: Man. 862 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: Did you ever play Pinewood Derby or participated? 863 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 2: Oh? 864 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: God, so many? I think until recently my dad had 865 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 3: a Pinewood Derby trail in his attic. We yeah, no, 866 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 3: we were big, big proponents of it. But yeah, you 867 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 3: could put weight on it, but it had to weigh 868 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 3: a specific weight. And then I think, like, you know, 869 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 3: they roll it on the track thing, make sure it 870 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 3: had the correct clearance clearance exactly. 871 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember, do you using quarters and hot glue? 872 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: But guys, do you think there's like anybody that has 873 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 2: like some sort of like secret like Dad's club or 874 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: whatever parents club where they bet on the Pinewood Derby. 875 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: If there's a thing be it, yes, and I imagine 876 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 2: we didn't talk about it. It probably could be an episode. 877 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 2: You know what we should do it? History of betting? Yeah, 878 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 2: a history of gambling. How have we not done? That's amazing. 879 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: We have come up with literally three rock solid ideas. 880 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, I bet sports betting on Buskashi is a thing. 881 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: Oh you bet you bet? Yeah? All right, quid, I'll 882 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 2: bet you a quid. I'll bet you one nol knuckle 883 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: one Max. 884 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, with that we have 885 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: we have some hot action, as they say on the strip. 886 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: So we are going to call it a day. Thank 887 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in, folks. We cannot wait 888 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 1: to explore more. Let's say, ridiculous lesser known sports. 889 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: You gotta change the name of the show. Yeah, right, 890 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: slightly unusual history. There we go. 891 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: Oh geez, well, big big thanks to our super producer, 892 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: our resident sporto, mister Max Williams. Big big thanks to 893 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: our number one Buskashi carcass, Jonathan Strickland aka the Quister. 894 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 2: Indeed huge thanks to Christopher Hasiotis and he's Jeff Coates 895 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: here in spirit, Alex Williams, who composed our theme, and 896 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 2: also to AJ Bahamas Jacobs The Puzzler. 897 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh, who just won an award by Yeah it's like 898 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: the potties for his podcast The Puzzler, you can check 899 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 1: out you can check out various episodes where we're hanging 900 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: with Aj just the nicest guy and what a sacker 901 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: jack rider and big big thanks of course, as well 902 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: to Rachel Big Spinach, Lance the Gay Bluesier, to our 903 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: pals at Ridiculous Crime and all the rude dudes over there. 904 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: One odd sport we didn't put in toe wrestling? 905 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: Do you know that's the thing. Yeah, I don't know, man, 906 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: that's a little inappropriate for that feels like something a 907 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 2: creep made up, right exactly. It's like this is an 908 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: excuse to get free feed picks. Yeah, don't get Tarantino. Folks. 909 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next time, folks. 910 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio Apple Podcasts 911 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.