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Speaker 1: Welcome In What's Driving the Great Episode three oh three,

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Speaker 1: we are officially to basketball season. NFL Franchise Tag Day

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Speaker 1: is today, which means the NFL offseason has begun. In earnest.

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Speaker 1: The All Star Game was this weekend. I'm the only

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Speaker 1: person in the world, evidently who enjoyed it. Or maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm the only person in the world who just doesn't

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Speaker 1: know how to consume anything without just bitching and moaning

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Speaker 1: about it from start to finish these days, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to all of that before we do

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Speaker 1: any of that. Demon's good to see you. You look

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Speaker 1: out just resplendent today. I mean, what is the weather

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? Must be glorious.

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Speaker 2: It is feeling great.

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Speaker 1: It is freezing in New York City, and you're wearing

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Speaker 1: damn near a Hawaiian shirt. Speaking of Hawaii, first things

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Speaker 1: First is off next week. I won't be going to Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: I'll actually be going further than Hawaiian. Wilde's is off

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Speaker 1: this week. Listen. Kate w is one of the hardest

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Speaker 1: working people in media and never takes time off this

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Speaker 1: but this was the week he needed off. So he's

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Speaker 1: off this week. Then we're off as a show next week.

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Speaker 1: And so yesterday, before we get to the Lebron stuff

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Speaker 1: in the ulsterreehum stuff, just quick story. Yesterday Lowayne filled in,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't fill in as a guest. He sat

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Speaker 1: in wild seat. He did the intros and outros, he

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Speaker 1: did weird and wonderful, and people wondered how did that happen?

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to tell you guys exactly how that happened.

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Speaker 1: So Monday, a week ago, during the Me Eating Crow show,

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Speaker 1: Wayne texted, Brah, I'm crying laughing in this blank a

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Speaker 1: lot of laughing emojis. That was too funny. Whole sec

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Speaker 1: me because I am if I have one religion, it

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Speaker 1: is an undying belief in being a terrible text replier.

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Speaker 1: I did not reply to that. Low Wayne live texted

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Speaker 1: me during the show, but I was kind of in

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Speaker 1: a text blockout from super Bowl until Wednesday afternoon. So

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Speaker 1: Wednesday evening I finally go back and I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I have five hundred unreplied texts. I probably should reply

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Speaker 1: to some of them. And I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Lowayne texted so I again. Because I'm not very good

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Speaker 1: at text etiquette. And even though this is you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest musicians in the history of the

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Speaker 1: watch my TV show and then give a live reaction

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Speaker 1: to it. My reply was, I just gave it the

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Speaker 1: little heart. I just clicked it and gave it the

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Speaker 1: heart Wednesday night. And so he then text me immediately

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Speaker 1: flying out there tomorrow to do SNL fifty. Let's get together.

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Speaker 1: He always says, smoke something, even though I don't smoke,

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Speaker 1: but it's just I just feel like he feels like,

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Speaker 1: this is, you know, the nice offer to make, and

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Speaker 1: he said I exactly. His version of it said, I'm

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Speaker 1: there till the eighteenth, so if you want me on

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Speaker 1: the show, I can do it, and I want to

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Speaker 1: come by Wifey's store. I'm like, this is just the

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Speaker 1: nicest person who's ever lived. So I text him short

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Speaker 1: version is this Wild's out next week. Here's a funny

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Speaker 1: option if you're into it. You pick a day and

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Speaker 1: sit in and fill in for Wild host the entire show,

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Speaker 1: do weird and wonderful the whole thing. He snap text back, done,

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Speaker 1: I just got to my room. Hit my guy Fabian.

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Speaker 1: We'll set it all up that afternoon. He's the greatest

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Speaker 1: person ever. That afternoon, at the end of the three

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Speaker 1: on the show that Wayne is filling in for Wilds.

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Speaker 1: He is watching the show, evidently, because he texts one

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Speaker 1: minute after the promo, you're way too kind. I can't

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Speaker 1: bleep and wait, I'm gonna knock it out of the stadium.

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Speaker 1: Tell Cadob, I respect the person whose seat will be

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Speaker 1: filling too much to do anything less than kill it.

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Speaker 1: I got us and tell him I said, all caps,

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Speaker 1: thank you. So I read that text to Wilds, and

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Speaker 1: Wilds just said totally matter of factly, he has this

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Speaker 1: relationship totally backwards. You get that right. I'm like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I do like this idea that he is thanking us, Like,

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Speaker 1: don't worry all, take it seriously. I'm like, bro, twelve

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Speaker 1: hours before the show, you're performing in front of Paul

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Speaker 1: McCartney and Tom Hanks at SNL fifty and then you're

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Speaker 1: it's totally worth your time. His medley is great, and

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Speaker 1: Adam Sandler's five and a half minute guitar rendition a

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Speaker 1: what miss the cut demonte Kansas City allegedly gives Travis

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Speaker 1: this with confidence and certainty, the greatest white dude dunker

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Speaker 1: on a hell of a show. But Mac McClung is unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: and Wimby and CP three break the skills contest in

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Speaker 1: a really the most embarrassing thing that happened this weekend

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Speaker 1: that deserved criticism was Wimby and Chris Paul trying to

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Speaker 1: the thing that got the most criticism this weekend. Instead,

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Speaker 1: it was the reverse engineered What did Lebron James do?

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Speaker 1: Therefore it must be wrong. Let's start right there before

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Speaker 2: Let's go out, all right, we'll see first and Forebo's

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Speaker 2: happy belated President's Day. It's all you guys out there.

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Speaker 2: But just hours, just hours before the game, Lebron decided

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Speaker 2: that he was he was hurt. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say he decided, but he was. He was injured. He

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Speaker 2: wasn't gonna play in the All Star Game, and this

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Speaker 2: led to fans saying, oh, you took a roster spot.

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Speaker 2: He also took a picture and did not suit up

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Speaker 2: wore a street clothes. What's your take on this? People

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's lost their mind. So let's just start here

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Speaker 1: who knew? So many people gave two shits about Norman

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Speaker 1: they didn't. The the idea the amount of people that

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Speaker 1: Though the vin diagram of people who two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: demonse were like these Pro Bowl alternates. It's such a joke.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco definitely wanted to see him play. It's disingenuous nonsense,

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Speaker 1: and the idea that there was any way for Lebron

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Speaker 1: is just disingenuous and not true. So if he would

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Speaker 1: have a week ago said I'm not playing, the media

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Speaker 1: cycle would have been this is why nobody takes the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game seriously. This is you know, people are

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Speaker 1: Lebron gave it to the last possible minute to figure

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Speaker 1: out can I play? And it's not so much can

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Speaker 1: it were a playoff game, would Lebron have played? Of course?

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Speaker 1: Does that mean that when he clearly believes this Lakers

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Speaker 1: Lakers team, because of the California Wildfires, has the shortest

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Speaker 1: they play Wednesday and the rest of the league plays Thursday,

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Speaker 1: that he was like, you know what, not going to

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Speaker 1: push it on this ankle? That makes total sense to me?

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Speaker 1: And then number of people who failed to acknowledge the

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Speaker 1: in the history of basketball than Lebron James? The answer is,

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Speaker 1: of course no. He's played in twenty of them. Kareem

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Speaker 1: more than any player in the history of the league. Yes,

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Speaker 1: by a massive margin. This broke his streak. And but

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Speaker 1: keep this thing going twenty one straight All Star appearances

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Speaker 1: John Havlicek and Bob Coosey, who both played in thirteen

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Speaker 1: a row. He did that pre Achilles. The new active

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Speaker 1: just so ludicrous. And then there's this piece of it

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Speaker 1: so Nick Fredell, who I really like. I really like him.

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Speaker 1: He was with ESPN. I think I don't want to

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Speaker 1: guy love Nick Nick quote tweeted it and said, there

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Speaker 1: is just absolutely no way mj would do this. He

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan at this point in his career had quit

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Speaker 1: the game three times. It meant to his presence to

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Speaker 1: the game meant so much that he quit the game.

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Speaker 1: He went and played minor league baseball, then he came back,

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Speaker 1: then he quit again, Then he came back, then he

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan played in an All Star Game? Seven seven years,

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Speaker 1: So this is where the criticism. People just lose their minds.

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Speaker 1: So if Lebron had just retired four years ago, no problem,

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Speaker 1: no problem, you win your championship with the Lakers. You've

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Speaker 1: given a lot to the league. But because he keeps playing,

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Speaker 1: because he's good enough to be a deserving, top tier

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Speaker 1: All Star, he then to these and I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about Nick here, talking about the folks at large, folks

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Speaker 1: He he's not allowed to be cautious with an ankle injury. Uh, Nick,

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Speaker 1: where did this injury come from? From Solomon Hill three

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Speaker 1: I thought that they achieved what they wanted basketball wise,

428
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: guys played harder, they cared, you know what I mean.

429
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't just threes and dunks like, so I thought

430
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Speaker 1: it was a step in the right direction. I would

431
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Speaker 1: propose this tweak, have the games beat a fifty instead

432
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Speaker 1: of forty and instead of having four teams of eight guys,

433
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Speaker 1: and therefore you have thirty two guys, and you have

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Speaker 1: to have the rising stars involved, have four teams of

435
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Speaker 1: seven guys, and expand the All Star team from twenty

436
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: four to twenty eight. So that accomplishes a couple things.

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Speaker 1: First of all, we won't have to worry about the

438
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: ignominy of Norman Powell snubs in the future, because everybody

439
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: was so fucking worried about Norman Powell's feelings. But the

440
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: All Star Game had twenty four guys in it back

441
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Speaker 1: when the league had twelve teams, and it has stayed

442
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Speaker 1: at twenty four guys now that we have thirty teams,

443
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Speaker 1: So expanding it slightly to twenty eight probably makes sense.

444
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: And we don't have to worry about the you know,

445
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: there won't be as many snubs or whatever it is.

446
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: The league is deep, that deep with talent and I

447
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: so I didn't mind this tournament format. I thought it

448
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: was cool. I thought the TV production could have been tighter.

449
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: I think the games could have been a touch longer,

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Speaker 1: and then you fix a lot of it. But I

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of a one one on one contest.

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Speaker 1: I love it I will guys do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if guys will do it. I think it would

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Speaker 1: be exceptional TV and way more fun than a horse

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Speaker 1: or the different things that we've you know, that we've

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Speaker 1: heard about. So I really like the idea of the

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Speaker 1: one on one tournament. But I didn't hate I did

458
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Speaker 1: not hate this. Uh. I didn't hate this the way

459
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Speaker 1: other people did, and I thought it was I think

460
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: sometimes what happens is we once again take our cues.

461
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: I think the fans take their cues from the media

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Speaker 1: and social media, and I think Draymond and we'll get

463
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: to Draymond in a minute being on the broadcast just

464
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Speaker 1: saying how much this sucks. Like I thought that was bad.

465
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Speaker 1: I really thought it was bad. And I just can't

466
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Speaker 1: imagine that ever happening with another sport, and that to

467
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Speaker 1: me is now. I have been critical at the beginning

468
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: of the year, said the NBA has some real concerns.

469
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Speaker 1: The load management thing is a real concern, and the

470
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Speaker 1: just every team playing the same way with all the threes,

471
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: that's a real concern that needs to be addressed. But

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Speaker 1: that can be true, and then it also can be

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Speaker 1: true that during the event it should be a celebration

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Speaker 1: of your sport. I just can't it's I can't imagine

475
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Speaker 1: Fox has the Major League Baseball All Star Game. Can

476
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Speaker 1: you imagine? Even the lead up to it, Poppy and

477
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: a Rod and Jeter were just like, here's why the

478
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Speaker 1: game sucks. Here's why people don't care. Here's why it

479
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: was better back in my day. Like that's that's a

480
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Speaker 1: downer for the fans. And again, I'm not acting like

481
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a perfect event. It was not

482
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Speaker 1: a perfect event, but I thought the actual basketball was

483
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: way better than the last couple of years. I also

484
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: think people have been overly dramatic about how bad it's

485
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: been for the last ten years. Twenty twenty post Kobe

486
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: passing was a great game, twenty twenty two had an

487
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Speaker 1: awesome finish, twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four were terrible,

488
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: and Durant I think nailed it in some of his

489
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Speaker 1: tweets when he was like, listen, the All Star Game's

490
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: always been about three quarters of screwing around, so to speak,

491
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Speaker 1: and then if it's close, lockdown for the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: The problem the last couple of years has been the

493
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Speaker 1: three pointer allows teams to get to such a huge

494
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Speaker 1: lead that there is no period of oh it's close late,

495
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: let's fight for this. So tweaks were needed, But the

496
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: NBA just also needs like better pr like nobody thinks

497
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: that demands a that the Pro Bowl being a literal

498
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Speaker 1: flag football game is a massive indictment on the NFL.

499
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Speaker 1: Nobody thinks that, And go ahead if it look like

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Speaker 1: you want to.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. I made a flag football point earlier

502
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Speaker 2: and they shot it down. But well, well it's a

503
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Speaker 2: little bit different, just because with football, you know, you

504
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: don't want to want the guys to get hurt. I

505
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: was just thinking, why would you want the guys speak

506
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent the whole time during All Star Game

507
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: to begin with, just makes them more likely to get

508
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Speaker 2: hurt during a time where.

509
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Speaker 1: So listen, guys have never gone. It's a myth, the

510
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Speaker 1: idea that these games were always great games or guys

511
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: were always going one hundred percent. It's just not true.

512
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: Now like it we can. The last two years were jokes.

513
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: Everyone understands that. But twenty twenty two was awesome with

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Speaker 1: the eelam ending one sixty three one sixty final. Twenty

515
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Speaker 1: twenty was great with another elam ending one fifty seven,

516
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Speaker 1: one fifty five final, and you know it's been twenty

517
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: eighteen was fine, Uh, twenty fifteen was decent.

518
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Speaker 2: Let's just go the first. We're supposed to be a

519
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: breath of fresh air, you know. I feel like it's

520
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: supposed to reset. It's not something to be so raw

521
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Speaker 2: rah over.

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00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: But so I tend to agree, and people bring up

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Speaker 1: oh Man ninety three, Jordan's last year before he quit.

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Speaker 1: The first time one fifty one thirty five, one thirty

525
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: two overtime. That's awesome. The year before was one fifty three,

526
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Speaker 1: one thirteen. It's a forty point blowout or one team

527
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: scored one fifty. The year before that was an awesome

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Speaker 1: game one sixteen, one fourteen. The year before that was

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Speaker 1: a ball one thirty one thirteen. Now I'm not acting

530
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: like it hasn't. You know, it's gotten it's gotten worse.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, which is why the tweaks are needed.

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00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: But again, people are just uh way way too nostalgic

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Speaker 1: about things that did or didn't exist, And so I

534
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,640
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Speaker 1: and I think they're trying to We'll get to the

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Speaker 1: appointed all stars are Draymond Green, who had, I mean

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Speaker 2: Want me to just go through all of them? And

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Speaker 2: So Draymond, you know, was talking to him getting a

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00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
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Speaker 2: That's what's going to happen. And he caught out the

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Speaker 2: the new format one through ten was a zero. It

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Speaker 2: sucks the same basketball.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Draymond Green being the head coach in waiting

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00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: for the Golden State Warriors is news, and it would

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Speaker 1: be treated as news if I think people took that seriously.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors winning the championship it once again Draymond is

611
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Speaker 1: writing checks that Steph is going to have to cash.

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Speaker 1: I don't I like Jimmy and but Draymond is nowhere

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Speaker 1: close to the player he was at the peak of

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Speaker 1: their dynasty, and Steph is not quite the same player

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Speaker 1: he now. He came on strong at the end of

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00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: the before the break, but I would be they are

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00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: far far more likely to lose in round one than

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Speaker 1: they are to reach the finals. And now let's get

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Speaker 1: to the other stuff. He's right about the Rising Stars

620
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't be playing Sunday Night. I actually think that is correct,

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Speaker 1: and that is a tweak they should make. I get

622
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: why they did it to make it to where there

623
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: was a real pressure on the stars, like we can't

624
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: let these kids beat us, but it should be a privilege.

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Speaker 1: But as often happens with Draymond, he while being correct,

626
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: his delivery of the information is so poorly done that

627
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: it's lost. And being on the pregame show for an event,

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00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: I felt so terribly for my dear friend Adam Lefko,

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00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: who is the one who asked him the one to

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Speaker 1: ten question, and then Draymond says a zero. This sucks

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Speaker 1: that buddy. Your job in that moment is to create

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Speaker 1: excitement for the event. Like that's people like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: applaud the honesty.

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Speaker 2: I do not.

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Speaker 1: Do not take that gig. If that's how you feel.

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00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: I mean this sincerely. Like, let's say I thought pickleball

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Speaker 1: probably not the place for me not to be like, yep,

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00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I'll take it so I can tell all these people

643
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: who are tuning in to watch it how much this sucks.

644
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: It's just that's just rude, and it's it's profession.

645
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: They probably like they reached out to Draymond like, hey,

646
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: do you want to do this? How would like if

647
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: Draymond has those thoughts in his mind, he knows that's

648
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: how he's gonna talk. You're saying he should just not

649
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: do it.

650
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: He s you'd be like no. I think that if

651
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: when listen he works for TNT, he does stuff for him.

652
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: I think that when they're like, hey, just like the

653
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: vast majority of years in your career, you did not

654
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: make the All Star team, so you're available this weekend.

655
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Would you like to do this? I think that if

656
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: you'd have been like, well, I think that if he

657
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: had been like sure, but just so you know, I'm

658
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell the audience how much the game sucks, they

659
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: might be like, ooh, all right, maybe we'll find something else.

660
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: And this is the other piece of it that I

661
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: find really galling. Why is he the the grand person

662
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: on the game yet? Like I, why so of NBA

663
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: history Draymond Green. There are one hundred and forty seven

664
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Speaker 1: people who have played in more All Star Games than

665
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Speaker 1: Draymond Green. One hundred and forty seven. Like was Chris

666
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: Webber on that panel? I can't remember. I don't think

667
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: he was. Maybe I'm not sure, because Chris Webber is

668
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: one of them. Karl Anthony Towns, who was in the game,

669
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: is one of them. Kevin who seems available, is one

670
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: of them. Like the Vince was on the stage. Vince

671
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: has played in double the All Star Games? Is stray hungry?

672
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Like who he is? Not the the the arbiter or

673
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: the czar of All Star history? He he just isn't.

674
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: And the idea that he I just found it. Really

675
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use a nerdy word, uncouth. It would you

676
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: would not have before? I mean, Stephen Durant are there

677
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: and playing in it. They are taking it seriously, and

678
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: for you to be like this sucks, it's not basketball.

679
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: I would he be feeling that way if he had

680
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: been selected? Maybe? I don't know.

681
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: I just know that Brow his his jersey off and

682
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: running off the field. It's just a little I feel.

683
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: Like, well, no, no, no, it's it's it's not that,

684
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: but it would be I'm trying to think of a

685
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: good comp for it. It would be as if who

686
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: is a like a really good but not all time

687
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: great NFL player, if Brandon Graham before this year's Pro

688
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Bowl was like holding court about the way football must

689
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: be played in a game that had all time legends

690
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: playing in it, Like, buddy, you you have less experience

691
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: with the All Star Game than Demarta Rosen, Like, I'm

692
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: not the you need to make one more for your

693
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: career total of All Star appearances to be the same

694
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: as Al Horford or like, like what I'm just saying

695
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: those are five times as like I mean, I'm just

696
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm not taking my All Star history lesson from a

697
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: guy who has the same number of appearances as Otis

698
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: bird Song. I'm just not. And so like you can

699
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: go somewhere with that, and if you want to do it,

700
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: that's what the pod is for. Like, that's what the

701
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: pod is for, not for the game broadcast. All right,

702
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: let's move on.

703
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: So you've we just started against the NBA season and

704
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: you haven't waved in on your MVP pick. Uh So,

705
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: coming out of the All Star break, who would you

706
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: should you play your flag on?

707
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: Listen? I think the put in the doc. What the

708
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: odds are? I have to imagine Shay is a huge

709
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: favorite right now. Shaye deserves it. They have really they

710
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: have an excellent roster of really good players, but they

711
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: only have one great player and it's him, and they

712
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: are the best team in the league. So Shay right

713
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: now is to me the clear pick for it. I

714
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: will tell you though, and this might surprise you, demanse

715
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: if there's anyone that can steal it from him, there's

716
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: only one guy, and he is lurking. Who do you

717
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say.

718
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: It is one guy in the NBA?

719
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's only one guy. I think that

720
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: I would bet all of what No, because now if

721
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: there's that sixty five game thing, so I wouldn't bet

722
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: all of my money, but I would bet a ton

723
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: of money that it's going to be one of two people.

724
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: And again I haven't looked at the god. Je'll look

725
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: at him in a second. I imagine Shaye is a

726
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: huge favorite. But the one guy who could steal it

727
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: from him that I think that I probably wouldn't have

728
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: a problem with. Do you know who I'm gonna say.

729
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: I do not know who. I mean, I would like.

730
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: You couldn't be Luca, obviously, he switched teams in the

731
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: middle of.

732
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Luca is not going to play enough games, right, No,

733
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: it's it's a guy that people think I don't like.

734
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: It's Joker. Oh, Joker.

735
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

736
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: The reason I said I didn't think you could guess

737
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: it because well, and all of a sudden, now in

738
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: a guy who just skirts criticism, by the way for

739
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: coming into every single season out of shape. And then

740
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: he was like, what's wrong with Jamal Murray? And then

741
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: around the All Star break, they're like, man, Nuggets sure

742
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: look better. And it's yeah, because Jamal Murray finally played

743
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: himself into shape. I mean, the Nuggets are super dangerous again,

744
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: and Jamal's playing well, he just had what you have

745
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: fifty five the other night. But Joker's been spectacular.

746
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: All right.

747
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm now looking at the odds. Oh, and the odds

748
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: are back up what I was saying. Shay is minus

749
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: five hundred Jokers plus three point fifty, and no one

750
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: else is better than eighty to one. Giannis is eighty

751
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: to one. Tatum's two hundred to one. Get out of

752
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: here with Wimby, Get out of here with I listen,

753
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: Wimby might win Defensive Player of the Year. He's been excellent,

754
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: he is. He has been a part of forty total

755
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: wins in his career nineteen last year, in twenty one

756
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: this year, like the Spurs right now have the same

757
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: number of wins as the Blazers. Wimby is not an

758
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: mv HE candidate Yannis is an interesting one, but they

759
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: would have to get red hot like Yana. Is it

760
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: eighty to one? What go ahead?

761
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: Uh? No, it was. I mean to cut you off there,

762
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: but Adam in the chat thought you were gonna say

763
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: Norman Powell.

764
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's a two man race, and let

765
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: me bond Temps bond Temp's straw pole. I know he

766
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: just came up, came out with his latest straw pole.

767
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I didn't read it yet. Gosh darn it. Am I

768
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: the only person who has the most trouble in the

769
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: world getting logged out of their ESPN plus account. I

770
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: swear to God, man.

771
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: This is the don't have that luxury.

772
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of money, buddy. Uh, I mean,

773
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I can't I guess I can't want I can't read

774
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: the article. This is so maddening. I just get logged out.

775
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: They tell me I have the wrong password. I then

776
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: have the right password, and it then tells me like

777
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm still logged out. Is so annoying.

778
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I hate it when I'm trying to put

779
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: in a password for a place and they're like, this

780
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: password is incorrect. All right, I reset the password and

781
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: then I changed the password and they're like, hey, this

782
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 2: password can't be your last password.

783
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the also can. All right, I'm in now, thankfully.

784
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: So the straw pole, Yes, so in Bontim's straw Pole,

785
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: which I'm sure impacted the odds. One hundred potential voters,

786
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: seventy first place votes for Joke or for Shay, thirty

787
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: for Joker, and then almost the exact opposite for second place,

788
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: so they were one voter away from being a unanimous

789
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: first second second First Shay got seventy first thirty seconds,

790
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Joker got thirty first sixty nine seconds. Let's so this

791
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: is how it. And then Giannis running away with third,

792
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: Tatum running away with fourth, and then Donovan Jalen and

793
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony towns Neck and neck for fifth, and then

794
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: after that again Wimby got a third place vote. Get

795
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: out of here. Jaron Jackson got us two fourths and

796
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: a first and a fifth. Anthony got two fifth bron

797
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: You're twenty two three fifth place votes. Shout out. Cad

798
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: Cunningham got one fourth. Okay, Shingoon got a fifth. That's fine.

799
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Shay or Joker right now, it's got to

800
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: be Shay. But Joker's got a Joker has a real

801
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: shot at it, and that team is scary. Top ten man,

802
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: Joker finished top ten all time.

803
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna take Katie spot at ten.

804
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: Well, we did this man the other day. Katie not

805
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: quite at ten? Where Joker? Where did I have him

806
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: when I did it? I think I had him finished?

807
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: I feel okay, yeah, maybe sixteen.

808
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure people said that. When I did the list,

809
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: I said Oscar Robertson twice.

810
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: I think fourteen and sixteen or something like that.

811
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: I think Jerry West was supposed to be fourteen and

812
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Oscar is supposed to be sixteen. I think I I

813
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: think I skipped Jerry and said Oscar twice. But well,

814
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Joker in order to be eligible for that,

815
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: he's got to win another title. And people can say

816
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: that's reductive, that's stupid, but it's not.

817
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: Like the yeah, I think he's going to do that.

818
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, so yeah, I mean, because you look at it.

819
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: The guys who are firmly in the top ten. Kareem's

820
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: got six, Brons got four, Michael's got six, Russell's got eleven,

821
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: Wilts got two, Shack Scott and Shack's not even only

822
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: in the top ten but he is. Shack's got four,

823
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: Kobe's got five, Duncan's got five, a Cheam only has two.

824
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: West I West only as one, but he's not in

825
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: the top ten. And so yeah, so I mean two

826
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: is the barrier and maybe he'll do it. Maybe one,

827
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: four and four Yeah right, two mbps equals one title, No,

828
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: because because the Steve Nash doesn't have a title, and

829
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: mb doesn't have half a title, I would you know,

830
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: but three maybe three mbps is a title. I'm okay

831
00:55:52,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: with that. The the yeah, but listen, sorry, I got

832
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: Shaye right now is the huge favorite and should be

833
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: UH and he's been spectacular. I still worry about them

834
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: a bit, just a bit. In the UH in the playoffs,

835
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: if they yeah, just the youth plus I need. Last

836
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: year in the playoffs, Shaye played up to his level.

837
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: All the other kids didn't quite so that worries me.

838
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,640
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Speaker 1: updates and recipes. All right, Demanse, let's get to some

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Speaker 1: listener questions and if we can put some more in

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Speaker 1: the chat, if the producers can, I'm gonna ask the

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Speaker 1: first one because the first one is for you and

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Speaker 1: it says, uh, I'm from Eric, I'm a big Celtics fan.

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Speaker 1: Just wanted to ask where your Celtics fandom came from

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Speaker 1: and how you feel about the team's chances this year.

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Speaker 2: Eric o oh answered the second one. First, I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna win the championship again this year. I think

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Speaker 2: we'll go back to back. And the first question, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what type of cable we had on Walren,

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Speaker 2: but there was a time that I came home and

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty it was the finals. They were playing Kobe

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Speaker 2: in the finals. The Green team was playing the old team.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't really big. I don't I don't think I

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Speaker 2: knew all the NBA team names and stuff. Just really

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Speaker 2: wanted this Green team to beat Kobe. And it's just

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Speaker 2: uh and the Rondo, Rey Allen, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce tandem.

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Speaker 2: I just love that squad and to this day, Ray

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Speaker 2: Allen and Rondo are two of my favorite players. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was it squad?

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Speaker 1: Was it Ray Allen or Rondo that you had? The fact?

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Speaker 2: It was Rondo? Honestly, it was Rondo the fact. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I had a Rey Allen poster.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I had like a poster of one,

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Speaker 2: A fat had of one. But uh, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: Ito has been my guys.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's that's exactly how I remember it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so that finals you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Is just an or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, they played, they played in eight, and the Celtics one,

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Speaker 1: they played again in ten, and the Lakers one. But

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Speaker 1: the one you're talking about is eight, because by the

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Speaker 1: time they played in ten, you cared and yeah, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. This is I mean, this is just

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're going back in the archives now, this

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Speaker 1: is right around the time that you and I met

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Speaker 1: exactly you know what I mean, This is like right,

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Speaker 1: and you weren't you didn't play basketball yet or anything,

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Speaker 1: but that was that was your team and then yeah

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Speaker 1: and then later in life. I think the only other

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Speaker 1: player that came close from me watching it from you

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Speaker 1: for fandom, individual player fandom to those two guys was Crawford.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Jamal Crawford. H. That just that handle

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Speaker 2: that I could never master. But yeah, it's just a

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Speaker 2: smooth dude, just a smooth GUH.

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Speaker 1: All right, so uh. Abishek says the one issue with

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Speaker 1: NBA discord is that people are pretending like basketball is

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Speaker 1: better than their two thousands than now overall. Listen, I

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Speaker 1: do think there are some Much like baseball, analytics cracked

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Speaker 1: the sport and they had to make adjustments. I do

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Speaker 1: think there are some real adjustments the NBA needs to make.

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Speaker 1: I also think that if any of these old heads

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Speaker 1: that swear the game was better in a previous era,

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Speaker 1: if we set up a livestream mystery science theater two

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Speaker 1: thousand style or a three thousand style where they have

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Speaker 1: to sit and watch a full game, just pick a

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Speaker 1: random it can be a playoff game from different decades,

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Speaker 1: we'd be like, oh, maybe it isn't quite as glorious

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Speaker 1: as I remember, and maybe that we do see having

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Speaker 1: to guard all segments of the court and the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: there are some real benefits to today's game. Ask AJ's question, Aj.

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Speaker 2: If Lebron wins a championship with Luca and Lucas without

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Speaker 2: a doubt the finals MVP, does it help or hurt

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Speaker 2: Lebron's legacy?

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Speaker 1: It unquestionably helps it. He does not he's the oldest

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Speaker 1: player in the league. Like nobody holds against Kareem that

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Speaker 1: his final two rings, he was the second best player

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Speaker 1: on that team, Like nobody holds it against him, and Kareem,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was not nearly like was not in

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Speaker 1: year twenty two. Now he was old because he played

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Speaker 1: four years of college.

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Speaker 2: Uh, no, way in one of the finals right now

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Speaker 2: with Lebron be in the MVP, I'm sorry, Like, if

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Speaker 2: Lucas Luca Lucas the MVP, that means they wont Oh.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to I'm not trying to flame Lebron here,

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Speaker 2: but it's just I.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree Lebron is not good enough right now to

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Speaker 1: be the best player on a champion, right, But that's

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Speaker 1: why Lucas been so exciting. Yeah, he I do think

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Speaker 1: he's good enough to be the second best player on

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Speaker 1: a champion. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I think that

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Speaker 1: with Luca, I think he's definitively good enough. All right,

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Speaker 1: ask Lj's question, then we'll get out of here.

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Speaker 2: LJ. Hey, Nick, do you think All Star game could

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Speaker 2: feature the Team USA versus Team World? That way to

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Speaker 2: fix the fix the competitive nature.

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Speaker 1: So that's a weird one though, because how are we

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Speaker 1: actually picking like there aren't There aren't twelve worthy international

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Speaker 1: All Stars. That's the problem with you know what I mean? So, like,

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Speaker 1: are we gonna name the All Star teams but then

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Speaker 1: play a game not involving them? Everybody suggests that because

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Speaker 1: the best players in the league, so many of them

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Speaker 1: are international, but there aren't twelve. You know, half of

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Speaker 1: the best twenty four players are not international players. You'd have,

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Speaker 1: you know, you'd have a really solid eight, But then

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Speaker 1: after that we're kind of we're falling off a bit.

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Speaker 1: I do think that could be interesting. I also think

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Speaker 1: that the weird spot is you have a disproportionate number

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Speaker 1: of the great international guys play the same position. Is

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Speaker 1: a lot of Biggs in jokicch embiid honest Wimby like

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Speaker 1: just basketball wise, it doesn't quite fit all right. Is

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Speaker 1: also somebody asked, now that football's done, you're watching any

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Speaker 1: TV shows? Watching White Lotus. Now the football's done, I'm

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Speaker 1: just playing a lot of Red Dead Redemption. I just

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I am so. It is therapeutic. I

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I look forward to it. Last night, your

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Speaker 1: mom and I turned on White Lotus.

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Speaker 2: She as is she always does.

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Speaker 1: If that is fifteen minutes in, I wasn't tired, and

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. That's a show we watched together. So I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to watch it. So I just snuck downstairs

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Speaker 1: and got in a good forty minutes of Red Dead

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Speaker 1: Redemption before bed. It's just it's just what I'm doing, Hobbs.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right. Podcast Thursday, then a week off. Then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to a three day, three podcast a

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Speaker 1: week schedule starting in March. But our last podcast for

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Speaker 1: our vacation is on Thursday. See you guys on First

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Speaker 1: Things First in a few hours. Great job, Demond's a

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Speaker 1: great job. Folks at Blue Duck and our folks at volume.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys, watching View and listening

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. Talk to you guys soon.

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Speaker 2: We'll trick