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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey everybody, it's the eighth of May.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that the eighth of May. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's an old man rock reference, is it not? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? My name is Luke Thomas. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat, a Post Canelo post UFC two eighty eight

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Speaker 1: Post one Championship edition. As I mentioned, my name is

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. I'm nearly one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: I joined you from the capital of the stad Dose

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Speaker 1: Unidos right here in Washington, d C. Joined by the

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Speaker 1: washed King of Connecticut. My friend and yours got a

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Speaker 1: lot of names, and they're all dumb. But I call

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Speaker 1: him Brian Campbell. I call him my friend. What's up,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell?

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Speaker 2: And I add some stellar names to my Connecticut stable Luke,

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Speaker 2: along with Chuck Middenhall Glover to share at the now,

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Speaker 2: we got Katie Taylor, how about Parker Porter with a

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Speaker 2: big comeback Connecticut when.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah he's Connecticut. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So shout out just the same and look, I see you,

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Speaker 2: I see you in that button up. That usually means

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Speaker 2: you either have a secret job interview or a funeral

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Speaker 2: to attend, So rip either way. Luke, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, this is a true story.

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Speaker 1: I'm not People think that I like, I like arrogantly

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Speaker 1: walk around and like, you know, tell people what to do,

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I do that in fairness, but what I

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Speaker 1: mostly do is every time I see myself in the mirror,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, God, what happened to you? Jesus? I mean

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Speaker 1: you littlely you got hit by a car and the

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Speaker 1: car backed up again. I mean, just terrible all the

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Speaker 1: way I look. So today I was like, rather than

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Speaker 1: just wearing a T shirt on air, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: on a collar shirt for the Munday show. That's really

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Speaker 1: what I did. I put on a collar shirt for

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Speaker 1: the Monday show. Is that tired of looking so terrible?

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Speaker 2: I think you had hair product in there too, Luke,

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Speaker 2: this is decent here.

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Speaker 1: I did not shower, though I want you to know

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Speaker 1: that I showered last night, but I didn't shower this morning.

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Speaker 1: So there's limits to how much I'm willing to try.

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Speaker 1: But Okay, here we are on this Monday edition. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned BC, a lot happened over the weekend. UFC

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Speaker 1: two eighty eight. Canelo had a one of the most

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Speaker 1: insane boxing entrances you'll ever see in your life. One

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty mariachi band members. In addition to this

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Speaker 1: incredible it looked like the BC I'm not joking, Canelo

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Speaker 2: The first thing I thought was Olympic opening ceremonies, no

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Speaker 2: question about it. So it was really cool. You'll be

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Speaker 2: seeing it. And have you seen this shit? And despite

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Speaker 2: producer Long Island Luke's you know, a low t response

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Speaker 2: hot fire bags of shit I've ever presented here, Luke,

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Speaker 2: So we can see that later in the show. The

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Speaker 2: weekend was really fun. By the way. Also my sixteenth

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Speaker 2: wedding anniversary Friday, so it was a this was what

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Speaker 2: a time to be alive, Luke. You know, I may

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Speaker 2: make it to seventeen after all. This is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, By the way. So I had a little funny,

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Speaker 1: little moment yesterday BC, you'll appreciate this. I went to

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Speaker 1: It was great. I had a great time. Everyone was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations either the same people that received their doctorate without

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Speaker 2: telling anybody. Luke, Okay, so these are yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: They're an amazing bunch. But shout out to the Thomas

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the guy who saw me in the

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Speaker 1: parking was still very cool in front of my family.

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Speaker 1: Go pump some iron. Okay, we have a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to. Showtime dot Com is the label that pays

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Speaker 1: Showtime dot Com get a thirty day free trial. I

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Speaker 1: may certainly bounce. We have an email for this show.

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Speaker 1: It is Morning Combat at gmail dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: send in Wednesday's fans, which by the way, have been

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Speaker 1: on fire recently, or you can get it to us

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Speaker 1: for Friday's dead Wrong. I want to say something to BC.

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Speaker 1: Friday's show is going to be in studio in Jersey City,

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Speaker 1: and I really believe we owe the fans not just

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Speaker 1: another show we do in studio, but an in studio event,

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Speaker 1: an extravagant sabahante up in there.

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Speaker 2: So you're finally willing to arm wrestle the cameramen on Camp.

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Speaker 1: Arm Wrestling cameramen. But I'll eat hot I love that.

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Speaker 2: Of all the ridiculousness to be either done or considered doing,

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Speaker 2: Look at me, dude, I don't do it, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing a bit and I'm not doing a bit here.

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like doing these big you know,

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Speaker 2: I think, why, Luke, you're afraid that at the end

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Speaker 1: It just feels it just feels weird. I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: it really that much different than eating hot wings? Probably not. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: All right, and then Saturday we'll be calling the prelims

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Speaker 1: for the next Showtime Championship boxing cards. So that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun there as well. BC. I believe we

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Speaker 2: Take this testo stack and shove it. Luke. Alrighty yeah,

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's get this party started. If

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Speaker 1: the Ultimate Fighting Championship. The last UFC pay per view

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Speaker 1: was just down the road from the Bomb Shelter in

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Speaker 1: in Newark, New Jersey for UFC two eighty eight, and

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Speaker 1: in that main event, al Ja man Sterling defeats Henry

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Speaker 1: Sehudo via split decision. BC. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: let's start here. Is the story of this fight. That

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Speaker 1: Aljo is clearly the consensus best in the division, Sahudo

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't think either any of those

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Speaker 2: How about this, One of the greatest champions in UFC

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that later, but Henry Suhudo came back

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Speaker 2: and impressed me. This was a great fight. You could

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Speaker 2: the dominant storyline should be this division. Love it and

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Speaker 2: when you get Suhudo to parachute in last minute like this,

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Speaker 2: it's only more fun. I really enjoyed Saturday night. Which

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm definitely happy Suhudo is back. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I thought that again. I don't want to be clear

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Speaker 2: I gave the first three rounds to al Joe with

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Speaker 2: is the only one that I thought was one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent of Hudo, But one of the three judges still

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Speaker 2: gave it to al Jo, so you never know. I

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Speaker 2: gave Suhudo the last two true to his form. Luke.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did make nice adjustments. He figured out

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Speaker 2: get back into the fight, depending on how you scored it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm firmly confident that three to two either way

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Speaker 2: is an equal scorecard. This one could have gone either way. Personally,

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Speaker 2: I preferred Aljo.

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Speaker 1: Over Yeah, I thought overall, like again, under a different

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Speaker 1: forty eight forty seven for Aljo again one, three and

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Speaker 1: round that deserved to go to so hudo Derek. Clearly

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Speaker 1: giving round five to al Jo, even though I agree

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Speaker 1: with that forty eight forty seven scorecard to me is

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Speaker 1: bizarre and in fact, that's the only thing that kept

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Speaker 1: Henry from getting his title aback, or that getting I

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Speaker 1: should say, the title back, which yikes. That is sucks.

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Speaker 2: It sucks.

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Speaker 1: That's a weird way to control a division is through

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Speaker 1: total serendipity from very questionable judging. Right. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you this, You know, I hear something that has

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Speaker 2: But ultimately it was it was Sterling that took that

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Speaker 2: brilliant stuff across the board. I'm happy in a way

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Speaker 1: I thought Sterling would win, but I recognize that, like

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Speaker 2: because I think he could compete very well against anybody

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Speaker 2: in this division. Look he was just in there against

431
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Speaker 2: the best guy, and look how close he came.

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Speaker 1: All right, So then let's answer the question. This morning,

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Speaker 1: I actually shared it on Twitter. He called for a

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Speaker 1: fight with Morob. He wants to fight with Morob dawalash Wheeley.

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Speaker 2: That's the one.

436
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that one makes So let me

437
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Speaker 1: ask you which one makes the most sense. That or

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Speaker 1: Henry versus Sandhagen or san Haagan versus Morob.

439
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Speaker 2: Sanagan versus Morob would have made the most sense to

440
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Speaker 2: basically declare the next title challenger, although we know the

441
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Speaker 2: situation with Morab and Aljo at the moment. Adding Sehudo

442
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Speaker 2: back into that mix. If he wants to stay active,

443
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Speaker 2: means you can break that mold and do whatever you want,

444
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Speaker 2: which you just asked me. Him against Morob would be

445
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Speaker 2: great because Morob cannot fight for the title under the

446
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Speaker 2: friendship and circumstance that he's at with al Jo until

447
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Speaker 2: al Jo makes that decision to move up. Al Jo

448
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Speaker 2: has already said maybe two more fights from now, knowing

449
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Speaker 2: I've got O'Malley next. They did the face off. That's

450
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Speaker 2: a big money fight all that, but that's gonna come

451
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Speaker 2: to a head. Why not give Morob the biggest fight

452
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Speaker 2: he can have before that? No, not Sanhagan to produce

453
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Speaker 2: the next title challenger to Hudo because that fight can

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Speaker 2: be prominently placed. It would be a great gauge and

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Speaker 2: test of exactly where Morob is. You have to pay

456
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Speaker 2: Sahudo if you're the UFC to get him to say

457
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Speaker 2: yes to that. But if you tell Suhudo, look, you

458
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Speaker 2: beat Morab, you get the next shot at al Jo

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Speaker 2: or O'Malley or whoever standing there. I think that that's

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Speaker 2: enough motivation for Sahudo to want to finish out his

461
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Speaker 2: career reaching as big as he can. If he wants

462
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Speaker 2: to work his way back into a Volkanovsky conversation that

463
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Speaker 2: may or may not be wanted to be had by Dana.

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Speaker 2: The best way to do it is go back and

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Speaker 2: beat the next best guy. Morob is title worthy, title

466
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Speaker 2: ready right now, Luke. You can say whether you disagree

467
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Speaker 2: with me wherever you want going forward for Henry. But

468
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Speaker 2: I want to kind of use this moment to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Do you see any willingness on al Jo or Morob

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Speaker 2: down the road to fight if it becomes necessary? Or

471
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Speaker 2: do you think they'll stand firm in there? No, we

472
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: used to live in each other's house. We know each

473
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Speaker 2: other's dark secrets. I mean, is this Caan and DC

474
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Speaker 2: right now? Or is this Bones, Jones and Rashad? Tell me?

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Speaker 1: Tell me, Luke, Yeah, I'm gonna glean. Or you could

476
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Speaker 1: say Coshchek and Fitch, two guys who also in the

477
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Speaker 1: same division, refused to fight one another and never did.

478
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Speaker 1: Never did. They're both retired and never did. I tend

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Speaker 1: to think it's more along those lines. Here's the part

480
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Speaker 1: that gets complicated. First of all, remember when people were

481
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Speaker 1: saying that Volkanovski versus Sir Hudo was a good idea. Dude?

482
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Speaker 1: Remember when I said that was never a good idea,

483
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Speaker 1: feel real vindicated on a Monday morning like this.

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Speaker 2: It's not like him does vindicate that ship? Dude, you

485
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Speaker 2: how does that?

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: a serious question. Don't give me any bullshit. You saw

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Speaker 1: someone on Saturday night in either case that could give

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Speaker 1: Alexander Volkanowski a tough fight, because I got to tell you,

490
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that ship at all.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not about do I think either man can

492
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Speaker 2: beat him necessarily or.

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Speaker 1: Would be the best thing exactly what it's about.

494
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Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's about making relevant big fights that

495
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Speaker 2: you go, oh shit, yeah, I want to see.

496
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Speaker 1: That irrelevant if you don't think it's competitive.

497
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Speaker 2: Because I think it's more competitive than you think. I

498
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Speaker 2: think Shudo could win that, but is unlikely to. But

499
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Speaker 2: if he came back and won his title and was

500
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Speaker 2: trying to become the first three division champion in UFC history, uh,

501
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Speaker 2: and if the promotion bought in on that, right, like yeah, dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that if if if like, dude, like,

503
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Speaker 1: in terms of what they put together, I don't know

504
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Speaker 1: how you can look at Saturday and say both those

505
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Speaker 1: guys are really really good and they are like they're

506
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Speaker 1: very very talented guys, very much worthy of admiration. That's

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Speaker 1: a separate thing for me, Like, hey, can they are

508
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Speaker 1: they ready right now to go up a weight class

509
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Speaker 1: and not just that up a weight class against the

510
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Speaker 1: what would most people consider to be the best fighter

511
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Speaker 1: in the sport. No, there's just no evidence of that.

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Speaker 2: All right, you're brushing a broad stroke, but I really

513
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Speaker 2: want to know what's behind that right here. I know

514
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Speaker 2: how great Volkanowski is, Okay, I know that he could

515
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Speaker 2: have beaten Islam under the right scoring. He's still my

516
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Speaker 2: number one pound for pound with the loss, and yes,

517
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Speaker 2: I'm ready to open that door to the upper room

518
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Speaker 2: and kick him in there. If he just adds another

519
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Speaker 2: little sprinkle on top of what he's already built, he's

520
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Speaker 2: an all timer. Luke okay, am I saying either guy

521
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Speaker 2: could beat him or should be favored to beat him,

522
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Speaker 2: No on the ladder, possibly on the former. But Aljo's

523
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Speaker 2: legitimately talking about moving up to that weight class. And

524
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Speaker 2: you think if he comes in as a defending vandamwaight champion,

525
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Speaker 2: that he's gonna be featured prominently and given a big

526
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Speaker 2: chance to get a title. Shot sooner than later. You're

527
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Speaker 2: telling me the what we saw from al Joe, the

528
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Speaker 2: game planning, the fact that he knew su Hudo might

529
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Speaker 2: come in a little rusty and cold.

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Speaker 1: So what did he do.

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Speaker 2: He constantly rushed in with different looks, switching stances, the

532
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Speaker 2: threat of high kicks. You're telling me that guy doesn't

533
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Speaker 2: have a chance against Volkanowski like enough to make the fight.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not telling you that Aljo has that next

536
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Speaker 2: level thing that would give me the confidence that he's

537
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Speaker 2: gonna go in there and beat again not just the

538
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Speaker 2: best in the sport, but one of the best of

539
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Speaker 2: all time. But you're making it seem as if Volkanovsky

540
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Speaker 2: fought either of these guys tomorrow at one hundred and

541
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Speaker 2: forty five pounds, that it would be like Matt Hughes

542
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Speaker 2: against Hoyst Gracie.

543
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Speaker 1: No, but I don't think it'd be Matthews against Hoyst Gracie.

544
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Speaker 1: But I think that neither of them would see the

545
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Speaker 1: final bell. I don't think that they can survive five

546
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Speaker 1: rounds with him.

547
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Speaker 3: No.

548
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're making it seem like he would turn

549
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Speaker 2: them into yurnal cakes and I think that's why you

550
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: got to lower your month.

551
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Speaker 1: It's not either or it's not like they'd win in

552
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Speaker 1: a pitched battle versus their year cakes. Look, you got reason,

553
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: there's a vast space in between. The point is, is

554
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: there enough compelling reason to believe they would win? Right,

555
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: even though you might think that I favorite Volkanowski, Is

556
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Speaker 1: there enough reason to think that they would win such

557
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Speaker 1: that there is a reason to jump the fights that

558
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Speaker 1: would ordinarily be in the cues from the respective weight

559
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Speaker 1: class to make a crossover fight at whatever weight class destination. No,

560
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Speaker 1: I don't see that at all. You did see that

561
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Speaker 1: with Volkanowski even before fighting Makachev. You had plenty of

562
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Speaker 1: reason to believe he got I made the case on

563
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Speaker 1: this show for it. You don't understand something is much bigger,

564
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Speaker 1: much bigger than I think folks are giving credit.

565
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Speaker 2: I know that if you're ever gonna have a CKB

566
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Speaker 2: hard on and let it fond right hogwild to the world,

567
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Speaker 2: now would be the time. I get that.

568
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Speaker 1: But right, you're making my motives rather than the argument, okay,

569
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Speaker 1: and making.

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Speaker 2: It seem like there would be no motive for UFC

571
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Speaker 2: to consider either one when we just established if sir,

572
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: who do had a chance to become a three division champion.

573
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Speaker 2: I personally think he needs to win back the beat

574
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Speaker 2: and weight title for the UFC to give him that chance. Sure,

575
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: but like that's a storyline that would do exactly what

576
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Speaker 2: you said. Nothing on Saturday gave me the reason to believe. Okay,

577
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: well Henry didn't wins. That doesn't help his argument. I

578
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: get that, but Alja already said after O'Malley, I'm probably

579
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: probably moving up anyway. Dude, he's if he moves up,

580
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: and it's gonna get a great chance to fight, either

581
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: for the title or for somebody that leads directly to it.

582
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. It sounds to me like you're

583
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Speaker 2: you're shitting a little bit on Al Joe as a

584
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Speaker 2: means to fully promote how great Vulcan is. And all

585
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Speaker 2: I'm saying is, dude, that's a fight we may end

586
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Speaker 2: up seeing.

587
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Speaker 1: Okay, I think you've had a slightly less good champion.

588
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Speaker 1: Then it's a it's a somewhat of a different conversation.

589
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Speaker 1: I just think that Volkanovsky is not just the champion

590
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Speaker 1: at won for. He's a uniquely difficult puzzle up aweight class.

591
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: He is uniquely special. He is historically special. And so

592
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Speaker 1: in order for me to have confidence in making a

593
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Speaker 1: fight between any one thirty five pound champion and that

594
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Speaker 1: guy that I need to see something really extraordinary. We didn't.

595
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: We saw something that were very very very good, highly

596
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: highly skilled, experienced fighters worthy of your respect. I mean,

597
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I say, no less than that. But did I see

598
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Speaker 1: something that would really give me reason to believe Volkanovsky

599
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: would have his title taken from him? No? I didn't

600
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: see that at all.

601
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm arguing more for the viability of the fight.

602
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: I get your point. If Aljo had subbed him in

603
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: the fifth round, and when I guess.

604
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Let me just shoehorn one little point. There was a

605
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: conversation about what made more sense for Volkanovsky, right it

606
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: was either he goes to one fifty five and fights Makatchev.

607
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: Do we do a super fight in that direction, or

608
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Speaker 1: we do it in a different direction where it's like

609
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: sudo was the one twenty five pound chap but also

610
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: one thirty five. So the one thirty five versus one

611
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: forty five? Which direction made more sense? And to me,

612
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I think clearly it makes much more sense to go

613
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: one forty five. The one fifty five. I think that

614
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: fight is much more competitive than the other way around.

615
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: That's all, okay, okay, I mean I think I understand now.

616
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: And if you know, and if look, if al Joe

617
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: had subbed him out and did it more dominantly and

618
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: to be fair, didn't get booed in his own home area,

619
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: then maybe there would be a different argument in that case.

620
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: But I want to put a bow on this to

621
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: give al Joe the flowers that I think he rightfully deserves. Luke,

622
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: where do you think? And I know this isn't your

623
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: favorite topic, but pump for pound, where does Aljo belong

624
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: in your eyes? After this victory? Because when you pair

625
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: this victory with the Yon rematch, we're not taking much

626
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: from the TJ fight. The DQ fight was weird, but

627
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: he hasn't been beating in nine fights. Here he's super

628
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: world class, Like I don't you know. I think him

629
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: and thro Hudo where that's the showcase on Saturday of

630
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: the best it can get in vandam waight And it

631
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: was a great fight. It was fun. Where's Aljo belong

632
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: in the top ten?

633
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: Man?

634
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: I gotta look at the rankings, because again I don't

635
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: do them so I have a little bit of a

636
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: muscle atrophy when it comes to thinking about this. Where

637
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 1: do they Boy, they don't even have him on the list. Oh,

638
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: yes they do. He's at six. So at six they've

639
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: got Sterling. Five, is Isy four is Leon three, is

640
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Islam two is Vulcan then one.

641
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Leon's too high in there, Come on, UFC.

642
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Leon's a little high because you couldn't put al Jamayn

643
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: ahead of well, I guess you could. I mean, here's

644
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the thing. What Sterling has to do in most cases

645
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: is going to be really really uniquely difficult relative to

646
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: guys at one eighty five or or what. But that

647
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: like that, what is he did in his last fight

648
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: was so special. You know, I kind of get putting

649
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: him at five. I think he should be at four. Yeah,

650
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: so it should be either Vulcan maybe at one or whatever.

651
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: They've got Jones at one, Vulcan two, Islam three again

652
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: in gen Watching one, they got Jones at one. Yeah,

653
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: they they got Jones at one. Yeah.

654
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: See light the spirit of this, in my opinion, it's

655
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 2: not like it's not egregious, but it's it's a little questionable.

656
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about this, Look at what Henry

657
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Sabhuto had to come back to against al Jamn and

658
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: Sterling and like how difficult to puzzle he is to

659
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: solve and how well rounded he is and like uniquely

660
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: lengthy and all that stuff. And then what Jones had

661
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: to go up against with Gon who just had like

662
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: the worst takedown defense and like the worst sub defense

663
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: imaginable for a UFC title contender. To be quite honest

664
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Speaker 1: with you, right, I think I don't think it's unfair

665
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: to say for a UFC.

666
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: You just like, hold on, Cyril, I got it. I

667
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: got a hot doochie for you. I'm just gonna drop

668
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: it right off to you.

669
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Tell me a UFC contender who in that particular dimension

670
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: looked less prepared in your lifetime, he.

671
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't a contender, but I'd say James Tony looked probably more.

672
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: But that's not the argument we're not talking about. We're

673
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: not talking about Randy guetor Vanity fights. I know that

674
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: guys in title fights.

675
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: I know it was a joke to support your argument,

676
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, I get your point, but I

677
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: guess it's up to old Cereal to come back and

678
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: remind us. But yeah, to.

679
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Answer you the original question, where does Sterling go pound

680
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: for pound? The answer is basically top five, right, top five.

681
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a good place for him. Okay, BC.

682
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: So then Sterling had this one off with Sugarshaw. O'Malley,

683
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: did you like how they handled that? By the way,

684
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: did you enjoy those?

685
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: Aina seemed really upset after, like, oh, I guess I

686
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: learned my lesson not to do that again. I saw

687
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: no problem with it. I understand I got a little bit.

688
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: It got a couple of things, morob stealing the jacket.

689
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: I thought it won the night. But I understand from

690
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: a promotional perspective, you don't want to hang around making

691
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: it about themselves, sitting atop the fence and then almost

692
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: getting in a fight with Sean because then suddenly it's

693
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: strike forced Nashville, a gentleman were on live television again.

694
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: So I get that, But I like this, maybe because

695
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm more of a pomping circumstance pro wrestling guy who

696
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: loves one hundred and fifty piece Mariachi band and lighten

697
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: your name on fire with a flamethrower. I like that

698
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: kind of bullshit. So when you get the next challenger

699
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: and he's in the building and you put him against

700
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: one another. Even if it's cringe, and this was kind

701
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: of cringe to me, it's still great. I want to

702
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: see how they match up nose to nose. O'Malley looked big.

703
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Obviously he's not cut down at the moment, but he

704
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: looked big opposite him. I kind of like that shit, Luke.

705
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: They both said their piece. Nobody tried to claim they

706
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: weren't a real Jamaican and it you know, it was.

707
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: It was decent.

708
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Look I liked it, Okay, yeah, I didn't care for it.

709
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like they got much out of it.

710
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: You know. I guess they're gonna use this for promotional

711
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: purposes if and when this fight has made so I

712
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: guess they got that footage of them blah blah blah

713
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: doing that kind of stuff. So that's great for them.

714
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of, like like the viewer, it just

715
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: felt I'm sitting here trying to process and digest what

716
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: just happened, and now I have to watch this like

717
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: weird yelling. And it also seemed Aljoe was what do

718
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: you make of this? BC? Like Sahudo was the fan

719
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: favorite and they were in Newark, which is how far

720
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: is Long Island away? It's like, what an hour and

721
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: a half to maybe something like that?

722
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: That far away, right, if there wasn't traffic, you could

723
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: shoot right across that ship.

724
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Could you. I guess I've never driven it. I've always

725
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: taken public transportation in that area. So yeah, it's a

726
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: little closer to two hours in that case.

727
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: But hour and a half, says Long Island Luke, who

728
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: makes that journey often.

729
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, okay, so it's about an hour and

730
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: a half. Man, he just didn't have a lot of

731
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: fans support in the arena. Henry s Hudo was clearly

732
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: the fan favorite. And so I bring us all up

733
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: to say, after the fight, when they're doing the squabbling,

734
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: you could see Aljo's like yelling, more like he just

735
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: started yelling the entire time, because I think he was

736
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: the agitated in the situation itself was agitating. It was

737
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: a weird combination. So for that reason, I felt like

738
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: this was his moment to shine, and it felt instead

739
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: like his moment to gripe in a way, and that's

740
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: not clear to him.

741
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: There was a little bit of the spirit of him

742
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: sort of being like, you know, what the hell do

743
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: you guys want from me, like, you know, this is

744
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: who I am. But there was also a little bit

745
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: of pro wrestling cringe added on. And oh, by the way,

746
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: it's not lost on me that letting the next title

747
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: challenger in the cage can create weird situations. Remember when

748
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: brock Lesnar pushed through everybody and got in DC's face

749
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: and we're like, can we just like celebrate the moment first?

750
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: And I get your point there. Nobody wanted brock Lesnar

751
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: in that fight anyway. I'm glad it didn't happen. But

752
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: I almost feel like al Jo needs to pick a

753
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: public persona that is the most him and the most potential,

754
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: like marketable, and go with it, because I think sometimes

755
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, humble guy, and another times he's

756
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: trying to be the pro wrestling heel and he's like,

757
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know if he knows. Just be himself,

758
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: Just be yourself, Luke, is that him? Is that the

759
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: real dude? That's the real dude. I'll back off, but

760
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: I just kind of want Alija to be himself. Like

761
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a huge fan base. They put him

762
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: in his hometown. He got booed there.

763
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: No, but theytown. That's what I mean. Man, Like, let

764
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: me ask you if they had put him, who's the

765
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Long the New York Long or the Long Island team

766
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: the Islanders? Right? Yeah, So if they had put them

767
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: where the Islanders play, like actually on Long Island, do

768
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: you think that crowd would have been as pro Henry

769
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: as they were? I don't think that.

770
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: I know you're to your point. There would have been more,

771
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: But would it have been like a sold out house

772
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: like Terence Crawford and Omaha and people rocking the rafters. No,

773
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: I don't think al Joe has that fan base for whatever.

774
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: It's worth, you know. Yeah, I don't know the answer

775
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: to that. Maybe he does locally, maybe he doesn't. I can't.

776
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't speak to Long Island. But

777
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I did feel like that was unfortunate and it kind

778
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: of changed the tenor of the post fight thing. I

779
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: have to say in theory, I don't mind the face offs,

780
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: I really don't, but I feel like they gotta be

781
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: few and far between. I feel like they got a

782
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: matter and this one just kind of fell a little flat.

783
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: Okay, But here's why I think it's important. Because O'Malley

784
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: is a monster star that brings monster attention. If you're

785
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: the UFC, and you know, are they hoping he beats Sterling? Well,

786
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: I think you can make that argument, but I don't

787
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: think it's something that they're like, you know, life or

788
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: death on. Sterling's putting together a run right now. But

789
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: I think this is the fight that you want to

790
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: get a ton of attention on. Let that bullshit happen,

791
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: Let it play out. No one got hurt, It's fine.

792
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: This fight has a chance to be interesting and it's

793
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: spicy on the build up. But look, the only thing

794
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: that really matters is the fight. I love this matchup, dude,

795
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: what a contrast. It's gonna be great. You almost sound

796
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: like you're not too fired up about it, and I'm

797
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: a little nervous here.

798
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, you mean Sean O'Malley versus Aljamaine Sterling.

799
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fight we're talking about here.

800
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Broh. Yeah, dude, I'm I'm completely all in. You know

801
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: what's kind of funny too, is I could see, based

802
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: on what we gathered from Saturday, I could see showing

803
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: them being a tough fight for Henry Sahuto too. I mean,

804
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: he throws sharp, quick, linear punches down the middle, he

805
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: makes good use of range. Henry doesn't have tremendous ground

806
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: and pound. He would obviously get the takedown. I don't

807
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: think that would be too hard for him, but like,

808
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: what could he really do with it? I think there

809
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: is an open question there. And then on the feet, dude,

810
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: I could see him popping Henry Sahudo a lot in

811
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: that space. So like, not only do I think he's

812
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: a tough fight for Sterling, what we learned from the

813
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: Yond fight and then what we can learn from this

814
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: fight is I think that he's competitive with all of

815
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: this is what I mean about Bansamway. People keep trying

816
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: to say Sterling is like this undeserving guy, and I

817
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: think what the reality is is that division is insanely difficult,

818
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: to the point where even if you wanted to argue

819
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: that Sterling benefited from X or Y circumstance, even with that,

820
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: achieving what he's achieved is absurdly difficult, and the next

821
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: guy may not necessarily do that much better anyway, So

822
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: what he's been able to produce with this asterisk or

823
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: that is still highly highly commendable.

824
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: Dude, Sterling's great. He is a great fighter with a

825
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: very good team behind him, He's he's executing at such

826
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: a high level because eventually Shudo was gonna make the

827
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: adjustments he did, and Sterling just was able to just

828
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: barely hold him off. Dude, like s Hudo normally wins

829
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: these type of fights in that manner, but couldn't because

830
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Sterling was that great. So I'm fired up for this

831
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: seann Amalley fight for many reasons. But dude, if he

832
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: gets another name on that ledger if omel, if Sterling

833
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: wins this, and then we're suddenly going, Okay, what are

834
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: we doing here?

835
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Are you gonna?

836
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: Are you really friends with Morob or not? He may

837
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: end up getting there. Luke, do you do you think

838
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: there's still a chance Morob's the best fighter in this

839
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: great division right now? We just haven't seen it yet.

840
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: It's possible, yes, I mean, here's what I say. I

841
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: can't rule it out. I don't think that's the I

842
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: don't think that that's true, but I've been You have

843
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: to know that you're a You're gonna be wrong about things,

844
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and like you definitely can't rule that out. You definitely can't. Right.

845
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: The final question historically was Daniel Cormier a really great

846
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: friend or did he know better and that's why he

847
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: cut to two of five that Kane has levels to

848
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: what he's willing to do.

849
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: Luke column A, Columby a little bit of both gonna

850
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: order off both sides of the menu there a little bit.

851
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: DC's still a legend. So my favorite broadcaster, DC, seriously, seriously.

852
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, let's go to point number two. We

853
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: stay with the UFC card, but let's go to that

854
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: comine event which was also a little bit weird, a

855
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: little bit weird. So Bala Mohammed defeats Gilbert Burns in

856
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: the co main event, does so with unanimous decision. But

857
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: the problem was this, we don't know if he had

858
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: any pre existing injury, but sure enough, during the fight itself,

859
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a failed takedown that Burns

860
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: went for where he landed on his left shoulder. Subsequent

861
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: to that, it appeared he couldn't even throw it. Now.

862
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: He could hold it defensively, he could lower it, he

863
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: could raise it, but he couldn't extend it. It seemed

864
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: like in any capacity whatsoever. And so Bala Mohammad I

865
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: thought looked really good BC. But the question is this

866
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: How much credit can we give Blall for beating an

867
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: injured Gilbert Burns. What's your read?

868
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: I think this was the worst case scenario. Well, there's

869
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: worst case scenarios here. But if this was a bad

870
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: case for the risk UFC took in rushing this fight

871
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: to try to save this card, is that this fight

872
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: was so important to both of their career arcs into

873
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: the division at large. And you're making on three weeks

874
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: notice when one guy's in Ramadan and the other guy

875
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: will be signing up for his third fight in four months,

876
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: major fight like major camps. To me, look, let's get

877
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: one thing out there. I've been wrong on Balal the

878
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: whole journey, and what I missed was exactly what he

879
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: showed out there. His poise, his drive, will focus, his

880
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: spiritual connection, and the strength. You can see how much

881
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: that gives him, like impressive across the board. At the

882
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: end of the day, they both signed the paper, just

883
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: like Ryan Garcia did with that rehydration thing, and they

884
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: both had to endure the same stakes more or less

885
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: given potential questions of how it would affect them physically.

886
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: So I want to give Blall credit. He won this

887
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: fight because he leaned on that stuff. But did he

888
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: face you know, the best or a very competent version

889
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: of Burns. No, And so we didn't learn a ton

890
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: under the scenario. Muhammad's the rightful winner. He did what

891
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: he had to do and he's gonna get his chance, Luke,

892
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: And I'm happy for him, I really am. Who I'm

893
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: not happy for is Gilbert. Maybe it's because we've been

894
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: able to interview him at length twice in the past year,

895
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: and you really see what the work he's putting in

896
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: no different than ball Blall's put in the work too,

897
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: but for where Burns is at thirty six, and the

898
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: chances he was willing to take, and how focused he

899
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: was at giving everything he had for this one last

900
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: run to see it lose here. I mean, we did

901
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: see certain things to the first three rounds that showed

902
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: they were very even if not Muhammad was better. But

903
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: you were right when that takedown attempt happened in the

904
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: fourth round, Gilbert already seemed to be fit his arms

905
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: a bit. Some of that, I thought, though, was the

906
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: hard kicking attack from Balal, which needs credit to the body.

907
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: As you've seen in that picture. He was devastating, but

908
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: once that arm went dude, he became a one arm

909
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: striker in all that danger. So see Muhammad I think

910
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: largely controlled that fourth round. Yet Burns was still landing

911
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: before that takedown, big bombs every other thirty seconds that

912
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: you reminded you that, Okay, he's not only in this

913
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: fight to potentially win this round, but he's still a

914
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: threat to stop Muhammad here. But after that takedown, that

915
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: threat went away completely. And given the stakes and given

916
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: how close this fight seemed at the time, although I

917
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: had Muhammad up, it's heartbreaking, Luke. It's heartbreaking to see

918
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: that we still have a good story to lean on

919
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: here in blal and seeing him get his chance. But

920
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: you want to see him get his chance in the

921
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: manner that he did the last fight to get this chance,

922
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: and that was going there against some beating Sean Brady

923
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: and and bring it to him and knock him out.

924
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: I thought both guys were compromised by the three weeks, Luke.

925
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: And it's just like, did it have to be this

926
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: way for UFC? I know, I'm it's hard. It's hard

927
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: to be like this greedy complainer as a critic or

928
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: whatever our role here is, as like super fan journalist,

929
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: because UFC in general is they know what they're doing.

930
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: They're a slam dunk. It works, it's entertaining as hell,

931
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: the trim and the margins at every corner lately, it seems,

932
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: and you bring in all the power slap bs and

933
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: the like. Where's the focus right now? It feels very

934
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: band aid at keeping these fight cards together. There's a

935
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: lot of short term decisions being made that don't really

936
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: seem to make a ton of sense, that are just

937
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: tied into well, let's just put that fight in that card,

938
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: and that's probably our best chance to sell it on

939
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: short term. Well, I think this caught up with them here,

940
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: and you know, the storylines won't reflect that in the

941
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: long run. It'll just be another tough fight that Muhammad

942
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: had to win to get his shot. And that's great.

943
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm I'm remembering the name now, Luke. I'm becoming a

944
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: huge believer here in the who this man is and

945
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: his incredible pectorals and all of that. But dude, I

946
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: feel for Gilbert here. Man, this sucks and this is

947
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: not the scenario. Why are you booking the sent three weeks?

948
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: Notice Gilbert's got three fights in four months. What are

949
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: we doing here. He's gonna say yes to any fight

950
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: you offer because he's a savage. Why do you want

951
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: to put him in that spot? Was this necessary?

952
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: No?

953
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: It wasn't. And in the bad news, Luke is these

954
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: next few cards aren't great either. This ABC card coming up,

955
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: it might be better than this pay per view on

956
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: the one after it. I'm being serious.

957
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, I'm not sure that because that ABC card

958
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: is not that great.

959
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it might be better than both pay per

960
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: view cards.

961
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: It really I want to have a discussion about the

962
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: UFC product in a minute, but let's stick to the

963
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: fight itself. I will tell you this much, BC. I

964
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: understand people who either don't like Bola Mohammed's style or

965
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: they don't care for his personality, because listen, not everyone

966
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: is for everyone else. People have things they like, people

967
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: they like things they don't blah blah blah. Fair enough. Okay,

968
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: so he's not for everyone if that's the case, But

969
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: I will tell you this much, man. He convinced me.

970
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: He convinced me that he is much much better than

971
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: he was a few years ago, and other people might

972
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: have been sooner. Everyone can be their own, use their

973
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: own screens. For when they decide someone has leveled up

974
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: and passed into a new territory. But for me, when

975
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: I watched the Sean Brady fight, it felt like Sean

976
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: was under a lot of pressure and just wasn't making

977
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: optimal decision making. That's gonna be much harder to do

978
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: against Gilbert. And I know Gilbert was kind of messed

979
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: up obviously fairly early on into that contest. But what

980
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: I saw from Belall was, you know, would he be

981
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: the healthy Gilbert Burns the entire time that's what they

982
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: went up against. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

983
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: I didn't see necessarily evidence that I can guarantee every

984
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: time he's better than Gilbert, But I saw a level

985
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: of improvement in his overall game and more to the point,

986
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: BC like all that stance switching and whatnot he does,

987
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Like let's think about what the common denominator is. Before

988
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: he fought this way, he was just constantly all over

989
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: you in the wrestling or up against the fence, just

990
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: not giving you room to breathe, not letting you get station,

991
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: not letting you make thoughtful decisions, just constant pressure, constant interruption.

992
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: His stand up style is not going to be like

993
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: the con where he's going to get Francis and Gonu

994
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: highlight reeled knockouts. But all of that pressure, all of

995
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: that stance switching, all of that looks it's the same

996
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: kind of core concept that he applies in the other

997
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: dimensions of his game. You can see that personality bring

998
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: itself to life in the other dimensions. We didn't really

999
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: necessarily know how that was going to go or look

1000
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: or whether he could even do that. When you can

1001
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: see someone express themselves and you can feel the dimensions

1002
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: mirror one another across different phases of the game, that's

1003
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: when you know they've really leveled up. Man. That's when

1004
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: you know they're comfortable. That's when you know that they

1005
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: believe in themselves, that they know this can work and

1006
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: they can actually do it against other high level guys

1007
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: in fights and get the results that they want. It

1008
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: wasn't so much what did he prove to the skeptics.

1009
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: It was that the confidence he had to employ these things.

1010
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: To me, look that he had really embraced that portion

1011
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: of the game that only happens when you've really got

1012
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: something dynamic that works, that works in the training room,

1013
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: that you really believe in and then you can bring

1014
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: to a fight. So to me, I really got a

1015
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: lot out of that performance in understanding just where Balala

1016
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: Muhammad is as a well rounded top competitor. Did I

1017
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: see evidence, B see that he's the best guy at

1018
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: one seventy No, I didn't see that evidence.

1019
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: But you know what we used to hold against him,

1020
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: and the idea of title fights is Okay, he's good

1021
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: enough to compete if he gets to that point, But

1022
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, is he gonna stop the champion? Is he

1023
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: gonna do this? He can do that because there's some

1024
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: of those parts of his game that don't scream super

1025
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: dangerous threat, but it's what he's built on the inside,

1026
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 2: the work he's put in, and some of that stance

1027
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: switching Luke that may have been because he came in

1028
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: with a leg injury. And yeah, you know he didn't

1029
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: make excuses. Yeah, I mean he won, there's no excuses

1030
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: to make. But he basically said, like we always say,

1031
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: everybody's injured in some way, But like, you know, that

1032
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: just adds to the toughness he had to show here.

1033
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: I now believe he can compete against anybody and that

1034
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: he can figure out the best way to be in

1035
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: that fight and and have his best chance. And I

1036
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: certainly didn't believe that. I think we're both echoing that

1037
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: same statement. And again you'll love to see that. Look

1038
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: happy to see that. Yeah, happy?

1039
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: So, But isn't it funnybcee that like, there are guys

1040
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: in the UFC who, again, they don't have the Francis

1041
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: and Ganu power. They don't have you know, the Charles

1042
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: Olavera just incredibly dynamic jiu jitsu, and of course he's

1043
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: more than that, but that's a big portion of his game.

1044
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: But what they can do is they can master the fundamentals.

1045
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: They do a ton of work in that space. They

1046
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: don't make a lot of bad decisions, and hello Bala

1047
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Mohammed Al Jabin Sterling, they kind of have a similar

1048
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, not a game, but like obviously I'll just

1049
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: big on the back and you know Sterling, excuse me,

1050
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Blall's not but that same kind of high work rate

1051
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of shut you down with all different kinds of

1052
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: movement and whatnot, and you sort of slowly accumulate these

1053
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: rounds over time, and then these wins overtime and then

1054
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: these streaks overtime. Do they're gonna beat your favorite fighters.

1055
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna do that. You gotta put respect on the

1056
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: guys who don't necessarily wow you with X or Y

1057
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: or Z, but the overall total game that they bring

1058
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: and then that effort over time, Dude, it makes a difference.

1059
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: It makes a huge difference. And who wins and loses,

1060
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: and who gets title shots and who doesn't, and who

1061
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: gets their hand raised and what streaks and what fights.

1062
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: It is such a difficult style to contend with. And

1063
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: I think everyone says, oh, I nothing really wows me here.

1064
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: You know what wows me is when I look at

1065
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: the fucking resume. It's win, win, win, win win. It's

1066
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: not an accident with those guys. And we really have

1067
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: to wrap our heads around that.

1068
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what. Look at John Fitch's Luke. All he

1069
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: does is win, no.

1070
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: Matter what, oh and I do is win win, win.

1071
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: No respect, respect, much respect, But is part of you

1072
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: as a fan like heartbroken for Gilbert.

1073
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: Luke, super heartbroken for Gilbert because here's the thing. Bellall

1074
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten his title shot yet. And I saw Colby

1075
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: Covington did an interview looking like a new member of

1076
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: LMFAO with his white son glasses. You know who wears

1077
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: white sunglasses? Three people, Jay Aaron, the guy who's in LMFAO,

1078
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: and then Colby Covington. That's it. No one else wears

1079
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: them because it's obviously a very bad choice. But okay,

1080
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. But he was right, he was like,

1081
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: you know not. Kolby was like he did it for nothing.

1082
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he did it for nothing, But did

1083
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: he meaningfully change his stock on Saturday night? Well put

1084
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: him ahead of Gilbert in the pecking order, That's true.

1085
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: But no one was like, oh well we got to

1086
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: take the title shot from Colby like that. That was

1087
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: never really a result, So you know, it is unfortunate

1088
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: in that.

1089
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know financially, if it was something

1090
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: where he was like, it's worth the risk, or maybe

1091
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: thought that was his only chance and he'd get passed over. Anyway.

1092
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: I just think we know who Gilbert Burns is. He'll

1093
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: take anybody at any time. He's that dude. But you

1094
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: get when you let that dude be that dude. I

1095
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: don't know, this is what happens. Maybe I don't know, Luke,

1096
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure it out in real time. Maybe

1097
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: I just you know, care about the man Gilbert, and

1098
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: it's tough to see, but I just don't think as

1099
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: an organation, like that's what That's not best case scenario there.

1100
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Like, no, I got sorry. The point I was gonna

1101
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: make was Gilbert's thirty six, butlall thirty four, thirty four,

1102
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: so he's still he's got you know, he's still got

1103
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: a window or something nice can happen to him. And

1104
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, I really am. But this this

1105
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: was always going to be the case due when they

1106
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: made belaal versus Gilbert, it was like, dude, who do

1107
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: you want to see lose? Like I don't. These are

1108
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: both the seemingly pretty great guys, and I don't know

1109
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: you feel bad burns being thirty six especially okay, BC,

1110
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about this other part point number three. I

1111
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: was shocked by this. I was really shocked by this,

1112
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: but I guess I shouldn't be. Yon chau Nan defeated

1113
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: Jessica Androdge inside of a round. Now, Jessica Androge had

1114
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: what can only be described as epically poor fight IQ

1115
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: in this fight, like really just rookie shit is really

1116
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: what she did, and she paid for it. But yon

1117
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: chau Nan took advantage of it perfectly, setting up BC

1118
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: A yon chaw Nan versus Jean Wiley all China affair

1119
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: for the women's strawweight title. Here, BC, how big is

1120
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: that fight going to be in that market?

1121
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: Massive? Massive, That's a big opportunity for the UFC as well.

1122
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: And we know the work they've done putting in the

1123
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: PI over there, and you know they've already had a

1124
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: title fight on Chinese soil. I believe right when Androge

1125
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: got knocked out, yea and back to Androge for one second,

1126
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: you lost your title that same way. How do you

1127
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: let that happen again? Anyway? Jan Shawnon still had to

1128
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: show us that she had the power, which I think

1129
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: a lot of us were questioning, and maybe that's why. Look,

1130
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: she's a contender, she's tough, she's volume, she's smart, she's

1131
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: a lot of things. But she also took care of

1132
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: business when it mattered. So this showdown is massive. You know,

1133
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: I want way Lee versus Rose three more than anything

1134
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: to you know, decide the all time greatest fighter in

1135
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: this division's history. Some of that, you know, is fueled

1136
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 2: by certain levels of superfanitness. Luke in this division's history.

1137
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: But I'll step aside knowing how big this fight can

1138
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: be for that nation and the future of the sport

1139
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: in that nation. For the two fighters here. You know,

1140
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: Jeng Whaley's done such great work to get her title

1141
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: back and be back in this position that uh two

1142
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: wins in a row here only for Jan shan On,

1143
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: but they came against Mackenzie durn over five rounds and

1144
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: now this knockout. It's like, damn, Jessica Androge, damn, Like, like, look,

1145
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that twice, and I

1146
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: mean she's not in other fights too, but I don't

1147
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: know how you you lose an opportunity that big twice

1148
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: with your hands at your waist, like you know, running

1149
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: straight on against at somebody. I mean, that's that's rough

1150
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: in androg has been in too many title fights to

1151
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: let that happen, you know, across multiple divisions. It's like,

1152
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: you're you should be better than that. I'm sorry, Luke,

1153
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: she should have been better than that.

1154
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say this about the Chinese market.

1155
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, neither of us know jack shit about the

1156
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: Chinese MMA market, right, so, like we're not really in

1157
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: a position to say for yourself. Okay, yeah, I mean yes,

1158
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps known Asian experts Brian Campbell knows more. I

1159
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: don't know that, but perhaps he does. But the point

1160
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: I want to make was all I know is this,

1161
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't know the Chinese market, but the fight game

1162
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: I have at least some idea about. And if you're

1163
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: a promoter, having a champion from that place and then

1164
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: able to put them against a number one contender also

1165
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: from that place, as like a way to enter the

1166
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: market or at least build new horizons there, that's a

1167
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: promoter's dream, like that is exactly what they want. They

1168
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 1: want something so special like that. There are other things

1169
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: that could also want a more dynamic champion, blah blah blah. Yeah,

1170
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: there's other permutations, but that right there, any promoter in

1171
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: the world is going to tell you, man, that's what

1172
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: we want. And so what an exciting time for Chinese MMA,

1173
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: What an exciting time for the straweight division, and what

1174
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: an exciting time for just fans in general as well

1175
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: to watch the gales of the game overseas.

1176
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: Like if you're like I know, Jong Way Lee's been

1177
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: on this level and been a national hero, but like

1178
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: you remember Luke when like Y'ao Ming came to the

1179
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: US in the NBA and had the swarm of media

1180
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: behind him. I mean, you know, you get treated like

1181
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: Elvis when you come from a nation that strong, with

1182
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: that much prime and you go elsewhere and do this.

1183
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Think about Yan shown on what like this is like

1184
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: a life changing opportunity potentially, you know, in terms of

1185
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: becoming an icon, win or lose. So you love to

1186
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: see that. That's why I love when when combat sports

1187
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: goes to different places and goes to people's hometowns and

1188
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: creates the potential for these moments. This could be an

1189
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: incredible moment, So was Jeong Wayley knocking out Androge. But

1190
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: this is bigger. This is like want I want opening

1191
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 2: ceremonies at the Olympics feel Luke, I want Canelo John

1192
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: Ryder feel for this.

1193
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: We might get that all right, but let's talk about

1194
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: Yan SHANNONBC. How good did she look? Right? So you

1195
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: heard how I set it up. She took advantage of

1196
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: an insane level mistake that Jessica Androdge made. But nevertheless,

1197
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: like dude, it does feel like since those two losses,

1198
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: she's leveled up a little bit. To your point, Vting

1199
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: Mackenzie Derney was trying to drag her to the floor

1200
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: the whole time, surviving a couple of close call situations.

1201
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: Here a dynamic power puncher sitting her down inside the

1202
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: first round. It does seem to me, man, like she's

1203
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: really refined her game and understands it and is able

1204
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: to apply it at the highest level she's ever had.

1205
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's putting it all together, and the timing could

1206
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: not be better. I believe Carlos spars is having a child,

1207
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: Luke and starting a family, so she's gonna be out

1208
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: of it. I know there's not a huge want to

1209
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: like drop everything and make that trilogy with Rose. It'll

1210
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: be there, and you could certainly argue that Amando limosh

1211
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: at number three is gonna be deserving very soon. But

1212
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: some of those other names that we thought might be

1213
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: entering the title picture, Mackenzie Dern just lost to jan

1214
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: Sha Nan Marina Hadriguez just lost again to in a

1215
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: row now on Saturday, there is a certain opening there

1216
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: for for the next one to come. So it's good

1217
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: timing and yeah, man, I mean, you didn't consider a

1218
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: knockout threat coming in. She put that type of performance together.

1219
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: It certainly is is a one up. It's like it's

1220
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: like in Mario right, getting that toad and you know

1221
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: what I'm.

1222
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: Saying, Luke, Dude, I haven't played Mario in like thirty years.

1223
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: Are you gonna see that? Isn't the movie breaking records

1224
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: at the box office?

1225
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna see? Saw the movie? Here's my review of

1226
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: the movie.

1227
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you?

1228
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: My daughter liked it a lot. That's my review of

1229
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: that movie. My daughter liked it.

1230
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: Okay for adults from the eighties. It's not like necessary

1231
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: like Creed three I thought was necessary. Whether you so

1232
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: I saw Creed three. I know you you're a hater.

1233
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: I know I didn't hate Creed three, but like.

1234
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: It wasn't what I wanted, dude. I wanted to be

1235
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: blown away and have this salt flat moment with my

1236
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: kids and myself and I'm ax, Luke and the a

1237
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: throw right. I wanted to I wanted to have this feeling.

1238
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: And Mario is Mario is definitely just fan. Like my

1239
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: daughter loves Mario Kart and some other stuff that we

1240
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: have the switch here at home and she loves to

1241
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: play it sometimes. But so she got a lot out

1242
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: of it. But the movie itself is like we hope

1243
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: everyone saying it's just bullshit, Like there, the plot is horrible.

1244
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: The acting the thing is like the kind of acting

1245
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: you get in the actual video game. I mean, it's

1246
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: it's real bad in that sense.

1247
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: I got dragged to the theater for Sonic one and two,

1248
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: and I have to say I expected it to be awful,

1249
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: and I really enjoyed Bath even the sequel. Really enjoyed it. Dude,

1250
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: Jim Carrey.

1251
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: He've been huffing paint in the garage like.

1252
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: It's not a cinematic classic. But for what my expectations were,

1253
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, that was actually like not a

1254
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: bad way to spend ninety minutes.

1255
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: With my dude, you know, it's amazing. Like I watched

1256
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: Vulk and Max Holloway too famously the forty nine times

1257
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. I have tried to finish Avatar, and even

1258
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: through forty nine times, I can't do it. Like I'll

1259
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: watch like thirty seconds the New Avatar movie. I'll be like,

1260
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so fucking stupid. But I'm like,

1261
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: like two days later, I'm like, but I gotta finish it.

1262
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: But then I can. So it's probably been like four

1263
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: thousand times, and I can't finish it all right, neither

1264
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: here nor there. Speaking to this, I'll just say this.

1265
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: I we talk about the parody at one thirty five.

1266
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: The parody at one fifteen is really interesting. To your

1267
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: point about the trilogy, I think you're right they could

1268
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: make I mean, would it be better if one of

1269
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 1: them is a title holder when you make that fight,

1270
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: Sure of course it would. It would be a lot better.

1271
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: But I do feel like you can pull the trigger

1272
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: on about like that without it and still get something

1273
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: really out of it. And again, if you're the UFC,

1274
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you cannot this up. Yan chau Nan has really asserted

1275
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: herself in this division age thirty three, so you know

1276
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: everything is coming together for her. You got an all

1277
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: China fight, you would It would take a lot to

1278
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: fuck this up, and I don't think the UFC's really

1279
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I didn't want to have just one

1280
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: more quick conversation about Jessica on rodge BC, what's going

1281
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: on with her? A little bit? I mean, here's what

1282
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not like too long ago she wasn't

1283
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: getting great wins. That head an arm triangle she got

1284
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: over Amanda Laimosh was like absurd, right, I remember it

1285
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: was standing against the fence insane, right. Okay, she's still

1286
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: obviously really good, really gonna win fights, but changing all

1287
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: the weight classes. I didn't understand at the time. Taking

1288
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: the Blanche Field fight on short notice, fine, but you

1289
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: didn't have that excuse here and then just running an

1290
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: opponent down along the fence line, dude, Like, I gotta

1291
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: be honest, man, that's like year one striking shit like that.

1292
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: They know not she knows not to do it and

1293
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: did it. Anyway, what's happening here?

1294
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I mean, even though that's her

1295
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: and you can certainly pull a number of fights where

1296
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: she's shown I guess, poor defense and ring, you know,

1297
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: cage awareness in the moment and do stuff like that.

1298
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: But yet, you know, we've also seen her persevere. I

1299
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: thought that the five round title laws she had to

1300
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: Joanna people forget, and those championship rounds like she never stopped.

1301
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: She kept figuring out ways to land big shots from

1302
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: far away. And it's sort of like, is she making

1303
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: a runnier or is she chipping away like she's been

1304
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: heady in big fights. The adjustments against namba Unis after

1305
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: getting lit up in that first round. But yeah, I

1306
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: mean she's human, Luke, Right, But she does have she

1307
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: does have swings in sort of the performance that she

1308
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: puts out at times, there's times that they blow you away.

1309
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: Did I think she was gonna slam Rose like that

1310
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: and win the championship?

1311
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: No?

1312
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 2: And she's also given us like some of the most

1313
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: incredible one punch knockouts in women's MMA history, where you're

1314
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: just like damn. She also just has the just has

1315
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: flat knights on the job, Luke. I mean, you know,

1316
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: do you come into every morning combat episode with the

1317
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: mindset of, you know what, as long as it takes

1318
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: to get to the point of greatness, I'm willing to

1319
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: do that today as many men.

1320
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if she was fighting three times a week,

1321
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: I'd have a little bit more forgiveness for inconsistent performance,

1322
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't think they're quite

1323
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: the same. But I'll just say I'll just say this

1324
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: bec she's I'm not she's thirty one, Like it'd be

1325
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: foolish to write her off. But it does seem to

1326
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: me like there's a lack of strategic focus in thinking

1327
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: about her career, Like what fights make sense? What do

1328
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: I need to do? What way class? What's the plan here?

1329
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: It seems to be like the people who really get

1330
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: ahead of the ones who don't just say I'm gonna

1331
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: show up and fight and win, like they actually have

1332
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: a vision about what the path looks like, what's required,

1333
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take, and then of course they're

1334
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: committed to the sprint they're in. It just seems like

1335
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of like I'll do this, I'll

1336
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: do that, almost like odd job kind of work inside

1337
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: the UFC.

1338
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: I don't like that that video McGregor put out after

1339
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: the Suhudo fight looked that was like all super weird

1340
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: and looked like he had, you know, come straight from

1341
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Studio fifty four to deliver that to us. It kind

1342
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: of had that feeling the androge loss, like like what's

1343
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: going on? Are you sincere? Like what's happening? Like, yeah,

1344
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, I don't know.

1345
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1346
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: If with that in mind, you see, let's switch gears

1347
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of the boxing. If what do you

1348
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: oh sorry, a.

1349
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: Blood test would have produced on Connor Saturday.

1350
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, dude, you could have snorted his blood

1351
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: and gotten high. I mean it, would you know what

1352
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying?

1353
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1354
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quickly, anyone else in the card you want

1355
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: to shout out before we move on to Canelo?

1356
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I really I enjoyed a lot of this card.

1357
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: Would you say that's correct, Luke?

1358
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I thought the main card really fell

1359
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: flat for me. I did. I don't know. I'm a

1360
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm a disowned customer. So when I bag on them,

1361
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I bag on them as a customer. I paid for

1362
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: this pay per view. I don't write them off. I

1363
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: don't have a corporate credit card like you, which is amazing,

1364
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: so I just pay for them out of pocket.

1365
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: You know, you also can ask for one, Luke, that's

1366
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: also a possibility.

1367
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: I've done that. I've done that, I think. Yeah, okay,

1368
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: But here's what I want to make neither here nor there,

1369
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: which is I just felt like I did not get

1370
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: my money's worth with this one. You know, that's just

1371
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: a personal opinion.

1372
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: A paper on paper. I hated it. Maybe I'm just

1373
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: saying I liked a bunch of the breakout performances that

1374
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: we saw.

1375
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 1: I guess you, okay, who like who?

1376
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: Matt rovol has got to be there? Against Drew Dober.

1377
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: We came into that fight knowing we were gonna get

1378
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: you know, extreme action, and guy's going for it. But

1379
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: like also a fight where these two lightweights are starting

1380
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: to knock on the door a little bit that they

1381
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: may be putting it together. Look, I don't know if

1382
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: steam Roller Luke is gonna be the guy that is

1383
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: gonna make big adjustments and fights and battle back and

1384
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: you know, and get to this all the way to

1385
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: the top and the title level. But every step of

1386
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: the journey, I am a willing customer ready to pay

1387
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: and watch because this guy's rock and roller inside the

1388
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: cage and dude, he bloodied Dobra up and just got

1389
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: him the hell out of there. That like, you could

1390
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: not have asked for a better call out and the

1391
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: timing and the delivery afterwards, and we'll hear that and

1392
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: have you seen the shit when he's like, not only

1393
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: am I having a moment here? Let's enter Patty Pimblet

1394
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: into the conversation where you're like, wow, okay, you do

1395
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: have a plan for where you want to take your career.

1396
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: But who doesn't love a guy exactly like him who's

1397
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: on this blue collar just brings it. But also, dude,

1398
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean we've seen him take punishment in the past,

1399
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: but you know he'll get you out of there. You

1400
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: don't fuck around with this guy, Luke, and those are

1401
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: my favorite fighters to watch. So I'm on team Favola here.

1402
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1403
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, sometimes he takes risks and it doesn't

1404
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: go his way in this particular case, by the way,

1405
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: I thought his counter striking as the round war on

1406
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: was getting better and better, like there was nothing accidental

1407
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: about his win to me and to your point, he'll

1408
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: also put himself at risk to get some wins and

1409
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: it fucking paid off huge. Also, he put a video

1410
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: up today being like I'm at my happy place and

1411
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: he was near the water, I guess, in Long Island

1412
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: eating the most delicious looking bagel you'd ever seen in

1413
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: your life, like an egg breakfast sandwich, you know, with

1414
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: all the works and you know everything bagel like the

1415
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: New York bagels. God, they're amazing.

1416
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: Oh Long Island look says he's from Huntington, which I believe.

1417
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: Where is where Long Island Lucas is populating as well.

1418
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: There you go.

1419
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: You know what he fights like, Luke, He fights like

1420
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: I eat right like it, Like he's trying to like

1421
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to save this liver. I'm trying to take

1422
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: it serious. Luke's I'm trying to do good. But like

1423
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, if we try one restaurant it's closed. You know,

1424
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: I may end up with Mike yet Berger, you know

1425
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I may just get off go

1426
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: off the rails. He's willing to go off the rails

1427
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: and meet you at the late night Dollar menu. Luke,

1428
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: He'll Matt Ravola will eat with you inside Cumberland Farms. Okay,

1429
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that. That's why I like

1430
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: watching him.

1431
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: Uh Okay, two names to shout out. You see how

1432
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: about Diego Lopez on short notice against Movsarvloyev his I

1433
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: guess how you say it?

1434
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what's the fastest way to Dana White's heart?

1435
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

1436
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: Doing that? Doing that?

1437
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: Dude?

1438
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: Doing that right there?

1439
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Dude. My man had a fade and bangs. He had

1440
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: like three haircuts at the same time out there rocking

1441
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: all that shit. But he had an active guard underneath.

1442
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: He was willing to go for it with what he had,

1443
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: super short notice, and he really made a fun introduction

1444
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: for himself. You can tell this guy. Is he gonna

1445
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: win every fight he's in. No, he's not, but he's

1446
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of them. And he's gonna be

1447
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: fun no matter what. Good.

1448
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: He's a maniac inside there, like in the best possible ways,

1449
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: and almost to the point that somebody who's so dominant

1450
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: and we should be talking about more and ev Lov

1451
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: and you know he keeps winning like this where it's

1452
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: gonna be unavoidable. You still had moments where're like ev Lov,

1453
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: like that's a wounded animal, who may who may take

1454
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: you out of this fight. I mean, dude, most are

1455
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: had to get through some shit. That kind of was

1456
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: brought on by his own self because he's like, I

1457
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: don't care how dangerous you are. I'm gonna get top position.

1458
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you how dominant I am. Dude, Lopez

1459
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: just had this this spirit that was like, man, I

1460
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: don't know how long that lasts. I don't know if

1461
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: you can keep that going because he welcomes damage, but

1462
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: he might win some fights acting like that. And there

1463
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: is a video of Dana afterwards talking through your boy

1464
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: Fabio Bousque there or whatever the translator's name is. Basically

1465
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: being like you did not lose Tonight's son. You know,

1466
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: this is what Dana wants. But you know what, Luke,

1467
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: this is what we want. That's probably why Dan has

1468
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: been largely successful knowing what the fans wants. Maniacs off

1469
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: the street with finishing ability, who are going to come

1470
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: in and fight to the end, dude, to make a

1471
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: life for themselves. He almost beat a really really great fighter, Luke,

1472
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: just by being crazy dangerous.

1473
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: I agree. Last thing I want to put out there

1474
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: is the Chrome Gracy thing. I mean, what a disaster, Yeah,

1475
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: total disaster. He loses to Charles Jordan, who I thought

1476
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: fought quite ably, clearly had a good game plan, stuck

1477
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: to it and it works. So two thumbs up for

1478
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: Charles Jordan. He earned that win far and square. But

1479
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: Chrome Gracy, you know, I thought in real time that

1480
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: maybe I saw a few different wrinkles to his boxing,

1481
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more movement from the trunk, but really

1482
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: not much, if any at all. And then the other

1483
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: parts of the game haven't improved, like you just this

1484
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: ride or die, old school, the old Gracy way. If

1485
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: it wins, it wins, If it doesn't, it doesn't. But

1486
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: this is what we do, and it's like this is

1487
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: proof of concept of how outdated it is. It doesn't

1488
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: proof of concept of how aptible it is. It's the opposite.

1489
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't quite know what was happening here

1490
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: with Corret.

1491
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: There were two things we were looking for from Krung

1492
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,479
Speaker 2: Gracy in this comeback. Either doing exactly what you said,

1493
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: leaning into the family way that the pure arts and like,

1494
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: I hate being mad at this performance, and I was.

1495
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: It was really disappointing because Krung Gracy is like a

1496
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: BC type of fighter, like a guy who's like even

1497
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: more important than wins and losses his style and doing

1498
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: it my way. So you would have want to see

1499
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: one of two things, him coming in and taking the

1500
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: Gracie style and you know, adapting it to twenty twenty

1501
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: three and adding all kinds of adaptations, or I think

1502
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: you would want to see him fight like he did

1503
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: against Swanson. It was ill advised, but he was willing

1504
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: to go in there and fight and it was a

1505
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: war and he was just willing to lean on his

1506
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: shield to try to prove some point to someone, maybe himself, Luke.

1507
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: But he did neither of those, and like he did

1508
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: enough to like where you go. You know what, I

1509
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: don't think anybody needs to see him in there again,

1510
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: like and you need to really, you know, irritate people.

1511
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: But he felt like that, and I hated to see

1512
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: it because I think he's such a cool personality. You

1513
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: love the family history, you love everything about it. I

1514
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: even loved how we know sold all the interviews coming in,

1515
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: Like I was like, okay, what are you hide in

1516
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: after three years? Oh?

1517
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: That? Okay?

1518
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: All right?

1519
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: All right?

1520
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: Next?

1521
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: What else he got?

1522
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 5: Chin?

1523
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, come on right.

1524
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: Skits him bits? Yeah, all right, b C. Let's talk

1525
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of boxing before we talk. One. Canelo

1526
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: Alvarez did in fact defeat John Ryder in Guadalajara, Mexico,

1527
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: his first time fighting back in his hometown in about

1528
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: eleven years or twelve almost, and BC he gets the

1529
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: unanimous decision win with wide scoring and in fact drops

1530
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: him twice, I think one in the fifth and one

1531
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: in the seventh something like that. He beat the shit

1532
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: out of John Ryder. But John Ryder, after the fight

1533
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: was over, he had both his nose nostrils note with

1534
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: his nostrils plugged and all wrapped. He said, well, Canelo

1535
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: has in fact lost a step now, BC, that's a

1536
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: ball thing for a guy to say, whose noses plugshut? Yeah,

1537
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: who got dropped twice? But is John Ryder correct?

1538
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah to a certain degree. Look, it's not. Hey

1539
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: is the loss to Bevall and the sluggish win over Glovekin,

1540
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, an alarm that this guy's like vulnerable for

1541
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: the taking against anybody and this guy is ready to

1542
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: fall apart and he doesn't have a chance. No, it's

1543
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: none of that. It's just he was at a point

1544
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: as the biggest star in the sport, the number one

1545
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: with a bullet pound for pound, and just moving up

1546
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: and wait and carrying his entire game with him and

1547
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: figuring out ways to win. And god he won a

1548
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: title one seventy five, but knocking out Sergei Kovalev, like

1549
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: we were holding him to a different standard. He was

1550
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: an alien. He was fighting every three months at some

1551
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: point of that too. But he's also a human, and

1552
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: he's a thirty two year old who's fought sixty two

1553
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 2: times since turning pro at fifteen. Yeah, he's not that

1554
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: same guy from even maybe three fights ago. That's what happens. Also,

1555
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: though he was really good on Saturday, should should the

1556
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: fight have gone the distance. I think that's the disappointing

1557
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: part for sure. He had Rider bloodied in the third,

1558
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: dropped in the fifth, and seemingly ready to go. And

1559
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: obviously this is no disrespect to to to John Ryder,

1560
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: who like like Kayla playing against Benavitez, but almost gnarlier

1561
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: in this case, like he went through hell and he

1562
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: was willing to to just go the distance and give

1563
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 2: the fight, you know, his best of what he had.

1564
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: Canelo two years ago stops this guy in the fifth round,

1565
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: in the sixth round and it's over. So no, he's

1566
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: not that guy anymore. But his attack is still there,

1567
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: his timing is still there, his hunger is still there.

1568
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: But I think what he's figuring out no different from

1569
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: many Pacquio when he started to like come back down

1570
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: to life, right like the dude Manny Pacio was against

1571
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton, you know, and I mean, like I don't

1572
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: know if we've ever seen anything like that in boxing history.

1573
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: Like this is just you know and moving up in

1574
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: wait like Vanelo.

1575
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: Let me just echo you people forget how dynamic a

1576
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: machine gun force? Yeah, Prime, I mean Prime Pachiao was

1577
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,440
Speaker 1: do he at that moment was I mean virtually unstoppable.

1578
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 2: He was twenty thirteen vit or belfo. I mean he

1579
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: was a a an alien. Took Manny's credit when he

1580
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: came down from that, and obviously you're gonna come down. No,

1581
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to come back down from this cloud either, Manny. Right,

1582
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: it's taken me all this time. But you know, when

1583
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: he came down from that, he still somehow retained his speed,

1584
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: but he obviously like changed his game. He became more

1585
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: of a boxer. Now, Manny's still Manny and he loves

1586
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: to fight and that's how he fights. But like he

1587
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: leaned in on the craft there, and he was able

1588
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: to hang around. Canelo's got high level craft. But like

1589
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: Manny coming back down to earth. The point of that is,

1590
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: Canelo can't fight three full minutes at that pace anymore.

1591
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: He can't. He can't do that. And he's also Luke

1592
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: really pushing something with his one sided one of this

1593
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: Bevaal rematch. I'll say this, if beev All had all

1594
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: four titles, maybe this is a different conversation here. Canelo

1595
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: is a history maker and a history chaser. Canelo Alvarez

1596
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: is the definition of daring to be great. We are

1597
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: in the midst in the second half, but we are

1598
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: in the midst of greatness here, one of the greatest

1599
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: careers in the history of this sport. But you're not

1600
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: gonna beat Bevall in the rematch. And the last two

1601
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: fights have really told us that you're the underspeeded champion

1602
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: at one sixty eight. And I had a lot of

1603
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: hungry young horses here. Let's dance with them while you're

1604
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,959
Speaker 2: still thirty two, while you're the closest to your absolute

1605
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: prime here. I don't know if you beat David Benefitez

1606
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: Luke after what I saw in this John Reider fight. Dude,

1607
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, hold on, but I do want to find

1608
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: out what are we doing here with this Dmitri beev

1609
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 2: All fight, Like no one's.

1610
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: Is fucking killing me with this shit? Because I'm with you.

1611
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if he was declining. I wasn't sure,

1612
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, it was just hard to tell. And then

1613
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: now I'm like, Okay, it's not a substantial decline, but

1614
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: it is. It is now noticeable at least to some degree, right,

1615
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 1: Like a little bit of a drop off can change

1616
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: the results one way or the other. Okay, Fine, so

1617
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: I still think he's competitive at one sixty eight. I

1618
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: still think he can beat a lot of good guys. There.

1619
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: There's some good fights for him. He can still do

1620
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: something pretty special. What did anyone see on Saturday that

1621
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: gave them confidence that if, in fact, he was even

1622
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: able to get Bivol to go back to a fight

1623
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: at one seventy five, which which Bivol does not want

1624
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: to do. He wants to do it at one sixty eight.

1625
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: But even if he could get that fight at one

1626
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: seventy five, PC, did you see anything they gave you

1627
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: any sense a second fight would go differently, maybe slightly

1628
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: different scoring or something like that. But no, no, there

1629
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: was nothing there that would differently.

1630
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: You know, that explosive, next level part of him. I

1631
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: don't see that anymore, and it's not.

1632
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: Part of the part that knocked out Kovalev.

1633
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't, I don't. I don't see it.

1634
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: That's fine, and it doesn't mean it can't come back

1635
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: in the right fight. But like that was the superhuman

1636
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: peak of his powers. He has been through a couple

1637
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: surgeries of late, he has been in a lot of fights.

1638
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: He is going to have to I think in the

1639
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: you know, be more of the calculated counterpuncher. Think one

1640
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,839
Speaker 2: man will Mark haz when he moved up to welchaweight

1641
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: late in his career. Yeah, he's also probably on the

1642
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: sauce to Luke, but not like thus like a saw

1643
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: like all of the sauce to be fair, But I

1644
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 2: will say that, you know, Canelo is gonna have to

1645
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: adjust to that. Now. The great news I think for

1646
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: Canelo is that he's already like this efficient counterpuncher, Like

1647
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: that's a big part of his personality as a fighter.

1648
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: What he showed us when he went up to the

1649
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: best he could ever be, when he became the number

1650
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: one pound for pound of the game. What he showed

1651
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: us also is that like he can walk you down

1652
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: and destroy you and get you out of there at

1653
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: any way class And that's a that's that's greatness right there.

1654
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: But now he's back down to earth. His game's gonna

1655
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 2: have to adjust to that. And no, there's nothing there

1656
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: at one seventy five. And I'm a little bit like, look,

1657
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: he already won a title. It once. The history books

1658
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: have already shown that he went in there against covid Lev,

1659
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: who's not a prime Coviallet but still was a tough

1660
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: out and he was, you know, losing on the cards

1661
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: and knocked him out late. Like that's a lot, dude,

1662
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: You've get like you've done everything, Canelo, but the money's

1663
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: at sixty eight. And also, you can really add on

1664
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: to your legacy by adding all of these younger names,

1665
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: Jamal Charlow, David Benavitez, you know it, like you have

1666
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: that potential of beating them, but they're gonna be closer fights,

1667
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna be great fights, They're gonna be can't miss

1668
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 2: pay per view main events. Canello can do whatever he wants.

1669
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: He's earned that, no question. But this John Ryder fight

1670
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 2: just adds on to the belief that David Benavitez is

1671
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: gonna be really damn competitive with Canelo and that might

1672
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 2: be the biggest fight you can make in the sport

1673
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: pretty soon, right like outside of like the undisputed heavyweight championship.

1674
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: Like that's a biggie. Let's start unpacking that gift for

1675
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: the fans now.

1676
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: Canelo should have fought Benavidez a while ago. I think

1677
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: it's a bit late for him now, to be quite

1678
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: honest with you, you know, because Benavitez still has room

1679
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: to get better. Canello does not. Canelo does not. This

1680
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: is about as good as it's gonna get. And Benavitez

1681
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: was so impressive against Caleb Plant, so dominant and again

1682
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: inevitable overwhelming, that to fight seems much more interesting to me,

1683
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: much more competitive. Again, Canelo could probably win that, but like,

1684
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'd be hard pressed to pick

1685
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: against David Benavitez based on their last two performances, respectably,

1686
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: the one and the one. You know, but it also

1687
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: just reminds me of BC. Like, dude, Caleb Plant couldn't

1688
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: go twelve with Canelo either, and John Wider could. It's

1689
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: like and and and Plant is like a defensive I'm

1690
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna call him genius, but defensively oriented slickster for sure.

1691
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: Yo, Canel, look I hit and now look I hit

1692
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: a lot. Rider's crafty on the inside, and he's also

1693
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: you know, willing to take the punishment. He's aggressive. But yeah,

1694
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 2: Canelo got hit. So Luke, did you feel like Canelo

1695
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: was was the hunter against Ryder right like he was doing?

1696
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah he was the most part.

1697
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was badass cowboy mode against Benavitez. Dude, he's

1698
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 2: gotta he's got to go back to the Dravante style more,

1699
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: he's got to go back to the one punch sniper style, right,

1700
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: got it?

1701
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, something like that. Again, I'm not saying, like,

1702
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, if Charlo moves to one sixty eight, I

1703
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: still think Canelo is going to be too much for him.

1704
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: Uh At, this is the right right now? Again in

1705
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: a year or two, who the hell knows. Yeah, But

1706
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like David Benavitez, if you wanted to

1707
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: beat him like soundly, like have the deck stacked in

1708
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: your favor, which we know happens in boxing, the time

1709
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: was maybe about a year or two ago, not right

1710
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: now now.

1711
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: The time could still be right now, man. Oh no,

1712
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean no, yeah, the time for Canelo was a

1713
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: year ago now. But but you know, for Benavitaz, his

1714
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: growth and the growth of his brand, he needed that

1715
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: pay per view with Plant, which which got a lot

1716
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: of eyeballs on it because of the you know, the

1717
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 2: dislike between them. But it's I don't know, man, I

1718
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know you would if Bevall agreed

1719
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: to go to sixty eight, would that make you care

1720
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 2: about that fight at all? Or should we just get

1721
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: the bev All thing out of our conversation and just

1722
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: get the pied Piper's out and start banging that drum

1723
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: for Canelo Benavidez.

1724
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: I'll say this anything on one sixty eight, I'm okay

1725
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: with I don't want to see the Bivoll fight. I

1726
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: don't care for it. It doesn't interest me nearly as much, dude.

1727
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: The fight to make, let's just be real, the fight

1728
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: to make is Canelo David Benavidez. Period like Marga and

1729
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 1: bev All, better beav where we can we expect like two, well,

1730
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: just okay, but biv Al and better Beave. That's a

1731
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: phenomenal fight that I really want to see one seventy five.

1732
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: But honestly, I think you said this earlier. Canelo David

1733
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: Benavidez is one of the bigger fights you can make

1734
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: in the sport right now. I mean it's a huge,

1735
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,520
Speaker 1: huge fight for all four belts. Like it's fucking monstrously

1736
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: big and also competitive and also cool storylines and also

1737
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: like you know, I can I can rack up the

1738
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: reasons why you want to see that one. So but

1739
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: I will say, if Bivall did go to one sixty eight,

1740
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: and Okay's argument as well, he's drained and I beat him.

1741
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't get any credit, But dude, I don't. That

1742
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: to me is a very unpersuasive argument, like, yeah, there

1743
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: will be some people who say that, but half the

1744
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: time they go to do things and people are like, well,

1745
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: so and so says you can't, or the statistics say

1746
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: you can. And I was like, yeah, I don't listen

1747
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: to them. I just seek my own path. Now you're

1748
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: listening to them, Like now the amount of chorus of

1749
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: negativity is like they're making the salient convincing argument like no, no,

1750
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he I think he wants it for

1751
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good reasons at one seventy five. But

1752
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: the idea like there'd be no value to it at

1753
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: one sixty eight really very unpersuasive to me, is the

1754
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: point I'd like to make.

1755
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: So I agree with I agree with you on that.

1756
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 2: Do you think if if Canelo still earns the right

1757
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: though to hear us say this and be like, fuck

1758
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: those guys, man Canelo, I'll do whatever the hell I want.

1759
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: You still listen the guy he still shows up to

1760
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: weigh ins wearing pajamas that cost more than my house,

1761
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: so you know, let's just cut them a little bit

1762
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: of slack. But okay, BC, last, but not least, let's

1763
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: get to point number five. So Demetrius Johnson was back

1764
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: in action for One Championship in their US debut, which

1765
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: I gotta say main event aside was a freaking hit

1766
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: like it looked great on I say, TV on Amazon

1767
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: on my screen. But okay, let's first talk about that.

1768
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: So DJ does get the nod over Audreana Moraish in

1769
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: their rubber fight. I want to talk about the one

1770
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: debut in just a minute, but let me ask you.

1771
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: The fight wasn't great, and it certainly wasn't nearly as

1772
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: good as the first two. So was it the altitude?

1773
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: Did DJ look old? Was it the way Moriis was fighting?

1774
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: What is your explanation for why I looked a little

1775
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: lackluster as a man?

1776
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 2: Don't forget Mariis's also thirty five and this is their

1777
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: third time. I do think DJ took a much more

1778
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 2: calculated game plan. That doesn't mean on you know, safe completely,

1779
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: but DJ was able to use that movement, the footwork

1780
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: patterns to get inside and you know, he was nasty,

1781
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: certainly in that multi clinch, So there were those good

1782
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: moments where you're like, you know, he was the aggressor.

1783
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: He was he was the land of the big But

1784
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: I think it all just pulled together to just be

1785
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: more of a tactical affair and DJ leaning on that

1786
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe or Adriana a little bit older,

1787
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: but there was something that just seemed a little bit

1788
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: off on him. Luke. He wasn't able to establish nearly

1789
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 2: the same level of physicality that he did in the

1790
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: first two fights. DJ was also just better this time around,

1791
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: like down to a science, and that's what happens when

1792
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: you take DJ, one of the best minds of all time,

1793
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: and you go, Okay, you're gonna fight this guy three

1794
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 2: times in succession. He's also going to have you figured

1795
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: out and then some by the end of that. I

1796
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: think it was that perfect storm where it didn't have

1797
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: the same you know, drama and excitement as some of

1798
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: the fights leading up to it, with those finishes and

1799
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: the personalities, but DJ still got it at thirty six.

1800
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: And the only question now is like, is he gonna

1801
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: hang around and still do that? He seems very unsure about.

1802
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,959
Speaker 1: That, So okay, I do think the altitude made a difference,

1803
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: probably for both of them, but maybe a little bit

1804
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,520
Speaker 1: so for Marias. You get it's an accent thing in Portuguese.

1805
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that's one. I do think that the

1806
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: way Marias fought him, so for example, DJ would clinch

1807
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: and then try and be open in the clinch like

1808
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: he's jumping, kneeing and going side to side and try

1809
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: and turning him, and Adriano's only answer to that was

1810
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: just to press him into the fence to reduce his movement.

1811
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: But then it would stall out her her Dean would

1812
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: come clapping and then eventually pull him apart, and so

1813
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: it just it ended up being like this like clinch fest,

1814
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: which byself by itself was not terrible but not great either.

1815
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: It just was kind of fine in the end. I

1816
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: do think DJ looked a little old, just a little kit.

1817
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: I want to be clear about something. It's not like hey,

1818
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: young and old. There's this binary where it's you're either

1819
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: one or the other. It's all sliding scale and there's

1820
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: there's slight nuances to it. He looked pretty good. He

1821
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: had good movement on the feet, he had good movement

1822
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: cornering him, but he didn't have that same I don't know,

1823
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 1: it didn't have quite the same intensity over the course

1824
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: of five rounds I've seen from him, Like he's usually

1825
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: able to pull a rabbit out of his hat at

1826
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: some point he just didn't have that. Again, we're talking again,

1827
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: slight changes in physicality, slight changes the modest change in

1828
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: the growth of injuries or the lack of muscle, athletics, explosivity.

1829
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: Any small change here can substantially change the results, or

1830
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: at least be noticeable in kind of ways that you

1831
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: have to be aware of. And I think that's the

1832
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: case here. B see like, so well, hold on, let

1833
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: me just say this, let me wrap it up. So

1834
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: Hudo and DJ are both thirty six. Both to me

1835
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: look capable of beating the best one thirty five a

1836
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: on the right night. So I'm not when I talk

1837
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: about decline, I'm not talking about decline so far away

1838
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: that that is out of reach. But the steady access

1839
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: to their own excellence seems a little bit not there

1840
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: as much.

1841
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: That's a soften probably more accurate way to say it,

1842
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: because you know it's again it's natural, so some of

1843
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: it is going to slip. I just think this time around.

1844
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 2: Look we can't forget. DJ lost the first fight and

1845
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: was stopped for the first time, right, or first time

1846
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: that we can remember. I don't know, maybe been the

1847
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: first time ever, Luke, Yeah, it was right, I mean

1848
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: it was like eye opening. Then the second one, he's

1849
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: down on the cards against a physical opponent, yet channels

1850
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: the greatness that we know he has by figuring it

1851
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: out in the moment, taking big chances, and scoring a

1852
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: highlight reel finish. So now the third time around, he's

1853
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: got all this tape, this memory. This is like, I

1854
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: just think it was a natural progression and evolution to

1855
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: go I'm not gonna fall down on this guy. I'm

1856
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: not gonna need to dial it up and be that great.

1857
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: How about I go out there and out work him

1858
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: out think him. It was brilliant. I thought it was brilliant.

1859
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: I thought, if anything, Marias was either slowing down himself

1860
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: or he just couldn't figure it out once DJ implemented

1861
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 2: it in that way, Because you know, this was.

1862
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm being harsher on DJ, the guy who won, only

1863
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: because he is the more historically relevant fighter, right, I mean,

1864
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: he's one of the best guys to ever do it.

1865
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: So the scrutiny is going to be somewhat more intense. Yes,

1866
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: Marias looked to me, like, again, I do think the

1867
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: outs two played a role, but age is catching up

1868
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: with him quite clearly as much, if not more. I

1869
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: think that's a fair observation. What about So what about

1870
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: this idea about what DJ should do next? Do you

1871
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: think he should fight again? Would you like to see

1872
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: him fight again? What would like to see him retire?

1873
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna see and have you seen the ship that

1874
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: they made him face off with a dude? Luke? Does

1875
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: that interest you at all? We can get to that later, but.

1876
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: We can get to it on have you seen this shit?

1877
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: It's hard because right now, after this weekend, you know

1878
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: what kind of feels like the fight to make Luke?

1879
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: So who know DJ three?

1880
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Right?

1881
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: So it's like like, hey, maybe what maybe Chatrie calls

1882
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: Dana back up and goes, hey, you know that last

1883
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: trade we did was kind of worked out good for

1884
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: both of us.

1885
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: So ask you this, Let me ask you this. Imagine

1886
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: that they did. Imagine that they did and they said,

1887
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: we'll give you DJ back for one more fight. Who

1888
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: would you take from UFC and pull to one as a.

1889
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: Great question, because it have to because you know DJ

1890
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 2: is not going to fight a long time. It have

1891
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: to be I don't know, like it have to be

1892
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: some that's either really fun but doesn't have a huge

1893
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 2: ceiling that that can equal that sort of short term impact.

1894
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: I think you'd also want, you know, an attraction that's

1895
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: going to brawl too. I mean, I don't know, Luke.

1896
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: I don't have the answer right now.

1897
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: What do you think I think about it? I don't

1898
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: have a great You.

1899
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: Can't say Patty, you can't say anything too crazy, right

1900
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 2: you would.

1901
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: Want to say someone who's got still athletic upside but

1902
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: could also be good for growing your brand. So that's

1903
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: a little bit hard to exactly figure out. Like how

1904
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: about that, Luke, how many fights does he have left?

1905
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to say.

1906
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: Probably three or four? Three maybe yeah.

1907
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: So it's like you get a year's worth of use

1908
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: out of him. Maybe maybe maybe that's a fair trade,

1909
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: but you get the I mean.

1910
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: He's DJ's really thinking about retiring, like this is a

1911
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: real thing. So I think you still got it. I

1912
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: think it just they didn't they need a matchup that

1913
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: really motivates him, Luke. I think that's that's the big decider, probably.

1914
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, anyone else on that card stand out?

1915
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for answering the direct question that I just directly

1916
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: asked you.

1917
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't hear it. I apologize. What'd you say?

1918
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: You know? It's all right, Luke, let's move on. It's

1919
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: already okay. We can't wait your card.

1920
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it. Yeah, you know, it's just you

1921
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: see who else stood out from the card? Anyone for you?

1922
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 2: So I really liked the card as you did. I

1923
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: thought by the way they announced Trio, I really like

1924
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: that group. Are you down with that team? Luke? It's

1925
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: Bread Stover, Rich, Franklin and who's the third guy there, Mitch.

1926
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Something Mitch Chilson, who was I think was originally like

1927
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: a team Quest guy back in the day.

1928
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he fought in one a bunch of times. But

1929
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 2: they are really good together chemistry wise. I think they

1930
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 2: go deep on the technical breakdowns of it. I mean,

1931
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: our guy hot Stove is smooth as the as the

1932
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: leader there, but performance is Luke. In the end, I

1933
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: think this was the right booking across the board for one,

1934
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: like they got the people that you just can't resist

1935
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: on the screen. Two of them, and you know that

1936
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna focus on and have you seen this shit?

1937
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 2: For sure are Rod Tang and Stam Fairtex's And it

1938
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 2: was just perfect performances of both of those charismatic, powerful,

1939
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: violent individuals doing exactly what they do. So I thought,

1940
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: not only did both stand out, One's use of them

1941
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 2: along with getting Mikey Mussamechi on there with the you know,

1942
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: the glasses in the submission game and some of the

1943
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: other guys. I mean, who saw RDR in a grappling

1944
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: match across the board. It was like we got a

1945
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 2: little bit of for everybody in this buffet, and I

1946
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 2: thought it really hit. It hit what very well, dude.

1947
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 1: I thought it delivered big time. I don't know what

1948
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: they did. They said they had to sell out, and

1949
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: then I saw some people being like, yeah, they didn't

1950
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: have a sellout, So I wonder what the commission can

1951
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 1: tell us about that. Moreover, I don't know what Amazon

1952
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: did in terms of broadcast, but just as an event,

1953
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: they made it feel big, they made it look good,

1954
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: the production value was super high, and then the guys

1955
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: and then the ladies delivered. It was unbelievable. I really, really,

1956
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this card. Rod Tang had a great win. Obviously,

1957
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Mikey Mussumchi just destroyed an overmatched opponent.

1958
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Stamp Fairtex to me had the biggest win on the

1959
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: card in terms of just how significant it was, just

1960
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: how impactful and memorable it was. That body care she

1961
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: hit on the clinch break was absurdly amazing.

1962
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Her opponent was good, Elise Anderson, out of att she

1963
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: hit and she also had uh did she have Rose

1964
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: and pep Arey in her course?

1965
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: She sure did, Yep, she sure did. So that was

1966
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: a good opponent. She looked amazing. Bad it Auspo was

1967
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: just beginning for Roberto Soldish where he gets this first

1968
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: fight basically ends in a no contest or that fight

1969
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 1: was wild that he just gets dropped here why a

1970
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't even have a Wikipedia entry. Terrible beginning

1971
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: for him. Stage north Cut getting a heel hook in

1972
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: the first round. Tyrutolo, as you mentioned, going to total

1973
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: well he kind of he kind of I thought was

1974
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: much better than reneer Rador. But anyway, the card overall

1975
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: really really fun stuff.

1976
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: I fast forward through all that grappling stuff, Luke okay,

1977
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: and you can judge me however you want? Where's this?

1978
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 2: You know? I mean, you know, I mean.

1979
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I can't judge you see, you're only telling on yourself.

1980
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you know what I mean. I got it.

1981
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Every man got his limits, Luke. Okay, I can only

1982
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 2: take so much, you know what I mean?

1983
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: All Right, With that in mind, let's now put the

1984
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: five topics away. Let's get to where everyone gets to

1985
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: ask us questions. It's time for dms from the diggity donks.

1986
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he haw, right.

1987
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: He haw and all that good stuff. I don't know

1988
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: if I have any of them sent to me, so

1989
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: I'll just read him off the screen. Let's get him

1990
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: fired up here if we can, please. All right, first

1991
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:30,919
Speaker 1: from oh souladucoh Okay, who won the weekend one? UFC

1992
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: or Canelo BC? What do you think one had the

1993
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: most fun event? UFC had the most relevant fight in MMA,

1994
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 1: actually in combat sports, and then Canelo had the greatest spectacle.

1995
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Canela was like a party. Canela was like a

1996
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 2: you know, like a sweet sixteen party, just a violent one.

1997
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 2: It was fantastic to be fair in terms of that,

1998
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 2: in terms of what it accomplished in that. But yeah,

1999
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 2: UFC won the weekend even though Luke it wasn't their

2000
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 2: strong effort on paper, and it wasn't you know, overly

2001
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: marketable people in the main and comine to a certain

2002
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: degree that that just sell themselves. I think they still won, Luke.

2003
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 2: That I mean, you're not even putting any respect. That

2004
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: fight was fun to watch, I thought so.

2005
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I thought the main event was good, definitely tactical worthy

2006
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: of appreciation. Didn't think it was great.

2007
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: It reminded me a little though it was different of

2008
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 2: Dom Cruise versus TJ. Dillashaw. It's just like two high

2009
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: operators out there, Luke making magic.

2010
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: You know, that's not a bad comparison. I thought that

2011
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: one was a little bit more action, but I haven't

2012
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: seen it in a few years, so I can't say

2013
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: for certain. You might be right, okay, next in the

2014
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: lineup here?

2015
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: Uh?

2016
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: From Pat McCann thirty four. Does Crohn's attitude the whole

2017
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: week leading up to the fight make his performance even

2018
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: more head scratching? He tried to play the DAZ role.

2019
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: He came out and he didn't fight like a DS dude.

2020
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: I didn't get the DS role at all. I mean,

2021
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying like I'm too good for

2022
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,799
Speaker 1: this and kind of distant and like the bad boy

2023
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 1: of the team. He seemed to me like this because

2024
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: he didn't want to be there BC. I just did

2025
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: not get the vibe that he was like enjoying any

2026
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: part of this.

2027
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: Oh do you mean you can talk yourself into some

2028
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that it was just sort of like, you

2029
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: know how like actors sometimes make obviously really shitty movies

2030
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: just to get their insurance from sag Luke to keep

2031
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 2: like in the system, you know what I mean, They're like,

2032
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: I gotta go make that b horror movie that's going

2033
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 2: direct to DVD in that Walmart bin.

2034
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Or maybe he thought he did want it and then

2035
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: got there and was like, ugh, I don't want it.

2036
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 2: So you're saying like, like the aftermath of Nick Diaz

2037
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 2: Versus Robbie Lawler two was unfortunately like did Nick even

2038
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: want that? Or like, did somebody like by gunpoint walk

2039
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 2: him in there? Did you feel like Chrome was just

2040
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 2: sort of like, Oh, let me cash you one more

2041
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: time and be and go back to surfing. I mean,

2042
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: is that what you're saying, Luke.

2043
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: I can't say exactly what his motivations were. But what

2044
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: I can say is it just seems very difficult for

2045
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: me to believe that he enjoyed fight week and then

2046
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,520
Speaker 1: the fight itself, he just looked disinterested.

2047
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: I don't think he again in the UFC. I don't.

2048
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how you come back from that.

2049
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not even I'm not saying he should retire

2050
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: in the sense that he's gotten beaten up and stuff,

2051
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: but BC I'll say this, like, if this is the

2052
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: way he's gonna fight, the UFC is a bad place

2053
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean, Like, you're not

2054
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna get beat up, You're not gonna win

2055
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: hardly at all.

2056
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'd see him fight Dylan Dannis. I'd be

2057
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 2: into that, Luke. I'm not kidding, all right.

2058
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: He probably tools Dylan Dannis. To be honest with you,

2059
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: he's better at jiu jitsu and MMA like like like

2060
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 1: Dylan Daniel. Let's be clear about this. On the jiu

2061
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: jitsu resumes, Dylan Dannis does not look nearly, not even

2062
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 1: remotely as good as Chrome's jiu jitsu resume, Like they're

2063
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: not equivalent at all.

2064
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:43,959
Speaker 2: So true or false, Dylan Dannis is actually now Anu

2065
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: an influencer fighter and not a fighter.

2066
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. That's very true. Yeah true. Uh okay.

2067
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Next from Kubby's Fan eighty, why do you think these

2068
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 1: high level jiu jitsu fighters are unable to add meaningful

2069
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: takedowns to to their MMA game? Well, this one's not

2070
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: that hard to understand. A lot of it is that

2071
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu and wrestling are very distinct. And even for

2072
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: the teams like New Wave, who have really thought about

2073
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: how to incorporate, at least on the nogi side, a

2074
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: wrestling element that's not just wrestling for wrestling, or not

2075
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: just you know, wrestling for MMA, but very specifically wrestling

2076
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: for this kind of thing. They've thought about that. But

2077
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: one thing that they've cautioned is that that that that

2078
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: development is still very much in its infancy. So even

2079
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu circles, there just isn't high take down

2080
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: competency or training or really you know, as long as

2081
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: you can just pull guard and you know, a lot

2082
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: of the sport is gee, you're just not gonna get

2083
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: a lot of it as a consequence. And then, more

2084
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: to the point, I think a lot of them, maybe

2085
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: not crone that this is at this stage. But I've

2086
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: definitely seen stages where guys did have good jiu jitsu

2087
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: and they just had way too much confidence in it

2088
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 1: as a fight changer, like I can just rely on

2089
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 1: my jiu jitsu, and then they get there and they can't,

2090
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh right. They put so much

2091
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: time to these little details into the training rather than

2092
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: a portioning it somewhere else, maybe having slightly less refinement

2093
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 1: but more well roundedness, and I think it catches up

2094
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: with them.

2095
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys spend way too much time

2096
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: running the pipe, Luke. I think that's what you were

2097
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 2: trying to say.

2098
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Gad you're here, Brian. All right. Next question, uh from

2099
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: Nate the Great Lux, which numbers do you believe more

2100
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: Dana's power slap social media numbers? Thank god, I'm glad

2101
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 1: someone asked about this or One's three billion viewer numbers.

2102
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Did you see DNA white out there being like yo,

2103
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: if you combine NFL, if you combine everything in the middle,

2104
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: if you combine everything and and and alternate dimensions from

2105
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: from Spider Man and or Doctor Strange, we still have

2106
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: more numbers than all of them.

2107
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 2: We got an independent party that searched the dark web

2108
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 2: to find this out.

2109
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we see, here's my answer to us.

2110
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know what questions someone asked where that came up.

2111
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: So forgive me for being a little bit out of

2112
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: the loop. Why the fuck are we talking about power

2113
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:59,919
Speaker 1: slap at the post UFC two eighty eight press conference.

2114
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Well, part of it is that's where Dana White is

2115
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: found to answer these questions, and he does. To Dana's credit,

2116
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 2: I'll say, allow you to go off menu a lot,

2117
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 2: but it comes across in some ways like ball fluffing. Now,

2118
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: it does produce these fun soundbites that we can laugh

2119
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 2: on have you seen this shit? But it also is

2120
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: sort of like, so, how's it going? No, but I

2121
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 2: thought that these questions in particular, though I don't know

2122
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 2: who asked him, they did. They did bring up like

2123
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Dana Slapp and his wife and stuff like they did

2124
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: like ask it in a very like professional way and

2125
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 2: go like, you know, how do you think the sport

2126
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 2: has been affected by all the negativity? And that's what

2127
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 2: led to Dana going on that rant and bragging that

2128
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 2: it that he doesn't care if you're watching because somebody

2129
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 2: asks again they're like, well, Dana, doesn't that show you

2130
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: that people are only watching it to laugh at it?

2131
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 2: And that's when Dana was like, I don't fucking care,

2132
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,759
Speaker 2: you know, like I'll I'll be the one who laughs

2133
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: last I like it really had something like doc it really,

2134
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean it was impressed.

2135
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: This is my point. It's like MMA media. I mean,

2136
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: I get that everyone wants to be the guy to

2137
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: nail Dana to the wall, but Dana's pretty good at

2138
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: avoiding being nailed to the wall and stuff like this.

2139
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: And moreover, he like, you're not going to convince him

2140
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: because he is a true believer in what he is saying.

2141
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: There's no amount of evidence, at least right now, you

2142
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: can show him to change his mind. It doesn't that

2143
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: worldview doesn't exist in his mind. And also like who

2144
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 1: gives a shit? Like in other words, we weren't talking

2145
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: about the NBA finals at the postfight press conference. We

2146
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: weren't talking about what flavor of ice cream the referees

2147
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: like to eat, or what's your favorite travel destination in Maine.

2148
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 1: It's utterly irrelevant to anything we're doing. Why the fuck

2149
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: are we spending time still talking about We had our

2150
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: moment to shit on it and say how we felt

2151
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: about it. Some people like it. Whatever, we all had

2152
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: our moment to voice our opinion. Why are we still

2153
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 1: having the same conversation?

2154
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: Also quite get there. There was a sequence of questions

2155
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: that led to this, and one of them was people

2156
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 2: asking the take me through the decision making of the

2157
01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 2: UFC Twitter account in retweeting like fairtbike race or something

2158
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 2: whatever it was, And that's what led to Dana revealing

2159
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,759
Speaker 2: that him and the Fertida's own all these other brands

2160
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 2: and they're using the UFC's you know, uh own public

2161
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, own assembly line of social to get that

2162
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: out there, and that's what led into the talk about

2163
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: the slap But Luke, to answer your question, the reason

2164
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 2: why we can't is because of that, because you can

2165
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: go on the YouTube page of the UFC at any

2166
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 2: point and there'd be like six or seven slap videos

2167
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: prominently of these, Like, I I just can't believe. I

2168
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: don't want to keep on wrapping this gift, Luke of

2169
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 2: being like, how do how does Dana White not see

2170
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 2: what we all see in this venture? But like, damn dude,

2171
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's like remedial level combat sports being

2172
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: served to you through the gourmet UFC Mixed Martial Arts steakhouse.

2173
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 2: It's just like, like, don't you have any brand awareness

2174
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 2: or class or care for that? So, I you know,

2175
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: I just I don't get that corporately. How you just

2176
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:00,759
Speaker 2: make that decision?

2177
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess he's gonna shoehorn in any talking

2178
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: point he can. But let that be a Let that

2179
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: be a lesson. Like if you guys in any capacity

2180
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: talking to him bring up power slap, he's gonna use

2181
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: it as an opportunity to say what he wants whether

2182
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: and again people like, what is it true or is

2183
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: it not? I don't if there are a bunch of

2184
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: people who want to watch people get slapped around. I mean,

2185
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: I feel for the state of the country and frankly

2186
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: the earth, but I can't control that. Right, If that's

2187
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: what they want to do, you have the worst entertainment

2188
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: palette on earth. But I suppose it's the thing you

2189
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: can do. I just don't care anymore. I don't, I

2190
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 1: don't care at all. Like this is so there's twenty

2191
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 1: four hours in a day. You have that limited amount

2192
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: of time to spend on it. Please fucking stop, Like

2193
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't we don't need to do this. Okay, well,

2194
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 1: and I'm breaking a rule doing this, but I just

2195
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: want to make that point and move on.

2196
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 2: Did you have the same reaction when they ran a

2197
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 2: Henry Sahudo feature before the main event? That feature ww

2198
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 2: wrestler's talking about how good of a heel he was.

2199
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 2: I kind of pop for that. But that's gotta be

2200
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 2: like like spitting in your in your meal and handed

2201
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: it to you.

2202
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I honestly, it's like, dude, I'm so of all the

2203
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: things that bother me about working in this industry given

2204
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: what we've seen the last few years, that's fairly low

2205
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: on the list. I gotta tell you, all right. It's

2206
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 1: like hey, fighters saying that people whose political opinions they

2207
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: don't agree with should be shot on mass It's like, okay,

2208
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: that's a little more. It's a little more concerning to me.

2209
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 1: But okay, either here North there, all right, question.

2210
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: Buttholes on it only fans Luca has had a concerning

2211
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 2: growing trend too or not.

2212
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 1: It depends which buttthles we're talking about it from Courtney.

2213
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh so our own Courtney there says are you as

2214
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: scared for Tony Ferguson as I am right now. So

2215
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: over the weekend he flipped a car after leaving a

2216
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: club and was arrested for DUI. We know, for example,

2217
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: during the filming of the season The Ultimate Fighter, he

2218
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: had this large outburst from alcohol consumption that did not

2219
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: look good. We know he's had some you know. And

2220
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 1: I say this as much of an understanding light as

2221
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: I possibly can. It seems like he had a bit

2222
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: of a mental health episode a few years ago. BC.

2223
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, from incident Luke as well.

2224
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, your reaction to this news.

2225
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, sadness. I mean, this is this is you know,

2226
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 2: we're not far from the Lava shak type of point

2227
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 2: in the career. And you know, I don't want to

2228
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 2: see him fight anymore, Luke, you know, as much as

2229
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 2: sort of like, you know, you can make some fun

2230
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 2: fantasy matchups on the way out, but we kind of

2231
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 2: already did that. This is a clear sign. I mean,

2232
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 2: it's also, Luke, it's the fighter's life in a lot

2233
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 2: of way.

2234
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 6: You know.

2235
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: They you live on the edge in your occupation, you

2236
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 2: tend to live on the edge sometimes outside of it too.

2237
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 2: But it's sad. I'm not happy about that. Don't ask

2238
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 2: me about this, Luke.

2239
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen. I just I've said it before. I've

2240
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: had friends get Duy's and then I can hear you.

2241
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: I got friends who get Duy's and then they they

2242
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: they turned it around, they really did. But to get

2243
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: it like this close to forty, you know, maybe he

2244
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: just made a mistake and whatever, and you know there's

2245
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: people make him. But I just hope he's okay, and

2246
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: that just doesn't lead to anything worse than what this

2247
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: already is. So also, I don't know if I think

2248
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: how many questions we answer for.

2249
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 2: He did flip a car, okay, like you know what

2250
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 2: I mean, It wasn't just like I had a little

2251
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 2: bit too much to drink at the sports bar during

2252
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 2: the game. I mean he did.

2253
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Flip it so real quickly before we transition out. Tank

2254
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Davis also received his sentencing on Friday for a few

2255
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 1: issues he had going on, one of which was basically

2256
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,600
Speaker 1: a felony hit and run, and he was sentenced to

2257
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:34,679
Speaker 1: three years probation and I believe three months basically house arrest.

2258
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 1: I think he's going to stay at Calvin Ford's house.

2259
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: We see he no longer lives in Baltimore. He now

2260
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: lives in Florida. Which is probably a good idea for him.

2261
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: By the way, I asked my buddy, who's a criminal

2262
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: defense attorney who does not practice in Maryland, so take

2263
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: there for what it is worth. But I had him

2264
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 1: review the case and what the considering merits were, and

2265
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I said, did he get in a like how heavy

2266
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: handed is the sentence? And his answer to me was

2267
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: tank got off really light. He said there were a

2268
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 1: lot of other jurisdictions or if he had less capable attorneys,

2269
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: that he easily easily could have seen jail time. And

2270
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: I guess it comes down to the injuries suffered by

2271
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: the victims in the case. So listen, I'll just say this.

2272
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: He admitted guilt to them. He didn't fight it in trial.

2273
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: He admitted it up front. He accepted the results. I

2274
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: can only hope, I can only hope that he has

2275
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: learned from this. I can only hope that getting out

2276
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: of Baltimore, which is where the alleged incident took place,

2277
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 1: or actually since he admitted that he did it legally speaking,

2278
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't think being in Baltimore serves his

2279
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: interests anymore.

2280
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean we're past the point now of

2281
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 2: man he's got to get stuff together. He's got too

2282
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,759
Speaker 2: much to lose. This is you know, it is good

2283
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 2: for him personally, good for you. I guess the sport

2284
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 2: that he can still train and get back in there

2285
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: and fight, and we all want to see him continue

2286
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 2: his career. But yeah, he did seem like he he uh,

2287
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: he got the less of what was offered and and

2288
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully he can he can bounce back well from.

2289
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: This lit and listen, three years probation. That's I don't

2290
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: know if that's a long time, but that's a long

2291
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: time for someone who can fuck things up. Yeah, Like

2292
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 1: he has got to stay out of trouble. It's no

2293
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: you have all the money in the world. You've had

2294
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: a million second chances. This was kind of a bad

2295
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: crime that he admitted guilt to where he basically hit

2296
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: a pregnant lady leaving the He hit a police escort

2297
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: leaving a club and then ran a red light anyway

2298
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: away from the escort and then hit a pregnant lady

2299
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 1: and then left at the scene of the crime. He

2300
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: admitted to all this, I'm not making this up, and

2301
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,600
Speaker 1: he only got three months house arrest and then the

2302
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: three years probation. That is the ultimate second chance, the

2303
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: ultimate second chance. If you can't get right after that, man,

2304
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: you got big, big fucking problem.

2305
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you feel like that's that last strike situation

2306
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 2: where it's almost like you know, jaywalking now you know

2307
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 2: it could could could bring the end. I mean he's

2308
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 2: got no strikes left, he's got at.

2309
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Exactly this is it? Man, Like, yeah, that could you know,

2310
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make it change.

2311
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 2: It's always it's always hard when we have to do obviously,

2312
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 2: have these talks when these things get in the headlines

2313
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 2: for him, and it's been a recurring pattern. But dude,

2314
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: I love interviewing him. I love the personality he shows

2315
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: as a fighter. Obviously we love him as a fighter,

2316
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 2: one of the best in the game right now. But

2317
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 2: like he he's so charming, Luke when we do talk

2318
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 2: to him off camera and he's you know, he's a

2319
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: he's a cool weird.

2320
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: I think the public has a really unrealistic expectation of

2321
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,839
Speaker 1: some of these guys. I mean, Tank Davis comes from

2322
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: the most broken of backgrounds available for someone who still

2323
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 1: ends up being a multi millionaire. And people think when

2324
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: I say that, I'm excusing him I'm not. But what

2325
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying is when you get pulled out of that

2326
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: and you never have any other influence in your life

2327
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,560
Speaker 1: in a positive direction other than the structure that boxing provides,

2328
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: tell me where in that process you're supposed to just

2329
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 1: become enlightened about all the things that no one ever

2330
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: showed you. You never learned. You developed an entirely different

2331
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: set of skills to cope and manage the reality. Like

2332
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 1: this idea that there's going to be inherently enlightened and

2333
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: I think is unrealistic. However, however, at this fucking stage,

2334
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be kidding me. There's just twenty

2335
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 1: eight years old. You have been through the court system

2336
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: now multiple times. You do now know what is expected.

2337
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: You do now understand, and you got off lucky with

2338
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: a fairly light sentencing, but one that can still cause

2339
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: you trouble if you're not careful. No more. The excuses

2340
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: are completely over. Just done. That's it anyway, Okay, with

2341
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 1: that in MYBC, it's time for BC's specs. Let's see, ye, feces.

2342
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: What a great transition there. I scoured the globe on Sunday,

2343
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 2: like I always do. What I found Luke was the good,

2344
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the highs and lows, the in between. Yeah,

2345
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 2: in combat sports, but also beyond right we call this.

2346
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 2: Have you seen this shit?

2347
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh oh god?

2348
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: All right, hey, Luke, we're gonna start in MMA, but

2349
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 2: not the UFC game Bred MMA held the first bare

2350
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 2: knuckle MMA card in a while. I guess in Florida, Dude,

2351
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 2: Big Big Country, right, Nelson was back, and I'm here

2352
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 2: to report, Luke, that power is the last thing to go.

2353
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: All right.

2354
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Wait, waistline has been gone for a while, but he

2355
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 2: could still thump. That's uh, Dylan Kleckler.

2356
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: Hey, bro, I gotta tell you, Big Country. Oh man,

2357
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: they're just winging shots. Yeah, the Big Country has had

2358
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 1: big power for a long time, dude, a long time.

2359
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 2: Yep. Uh, he's bigger than normal formal Yeah, I noticed

2360
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: that him. Hey, let's go back to Newark here at

2361
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: UFC two eighty eight time. And uh, as you mentioned

2362
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 2: when I said, did I miss anything in that press conference? Luke?

2363
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: Oh god, hopefully these two never fight again, just so

2364
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 2: we don't have to hear this again. I mean, what's

2365
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: happening here?

2366
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:59,839
Speaker 6: How just st stand the Mexican shut up, fake in Jamaican.

2367
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: You're a wanna be American? Number that another flag?

2368
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 2: Can we put the war in America?

2369
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm Americans, sucker, moar American?

2370
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: I am? Why say? Okay? So shut up the shadow.

2371
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 2: This is my pighatta head that shut up head that Luke.

2372
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 2: I hate to do this to you, after all we've

2373
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 2: been through. But to me, you're not an American, not

2374
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 2: a real one at least, all right, Luke?

2375
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: All right, you see you're you're You're just a fake Lithuanian.

2376
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: That's what I am.

2377
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke. Surprisingly, it only got cringier from there

2378
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 2: at the UFC Wayan Show. Did you see this, Luke?

2379
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 2: What do we call this rap group? Let's listen in

2380
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 2: yo Yo.

2381
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 6: My name is christ and I'm here to say I'm

2382
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 6: the king of cringe and you nothing in a major way.

2383
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: You just wade in like dipping a can.

2384
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 2: But dude on the stands, But I'm the king of

2385
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: the cringe.

2386
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 1: That terrible what you got? Bro? What you guys?

2387
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 6: Why mid why you don't want it. I'll come over

2388
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 6: there and take you from it. I'm gonna slash you,

2389
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 6: dash you, cut into the hole of you, pass it back,

2390
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 6: slash him up again, cringe make six.

2391
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 2: Look is that why he doesn't have more fans?

2392
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Man?

2393
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 2: Come on, what's going on there?

2394
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: Like Wiman just committed a hate crime by doing that.

2395
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about it, all right, and al Joe,

2396
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean just there should be an FCC fine for that.

2397
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: That being that awful.

2398
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 2: I think you're right also for this. This This sums

2399
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 2: up Crone Gracie's UFC return in one ten second video piece.

2400
01:49:56,520 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: Luke just literally can I be honest? Two of the

2401
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: most ignoble and just unprepared fights I've ever seen an

2402
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: mma both happen in this venue. I was there on

2403
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: the Kimbo Slic Thompson card when Nick Sarah refused. He

2404
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 1: was sitting in butt scooting and the referee made him

2405
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 1: stand up and he refused, so then he lost the fight.

2406
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: I've seen that in this venue. And then this shit.

2407
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, what the fuck? Man? If you're butt

2408
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: scooting on a UFC pay per view card in twenty

2409
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:26,799
Speaker 1: twenty three, man, you got problems.

2410
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: Man, you have something in common with my wife's Doug Sasha. Yes, indeed, Luke,

2411
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:33,799
Speaker 2: you know what she's got like a hanger.

2412
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean just got that itchy ass

2413
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: fucking h Luke.

2414
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,799
Speaker 2: I told you for for Vola, Dover would be a banger.

2415
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 2: It was a fucking banger.

2416
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: Here's true.

2417
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Well this was great.

2418
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 1: Mmmm damn dude, for Vola hit him with that. I

2419
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 1: won't say one hitter quitter, but Dover's tough and did

2420
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: this ground and pound follow up is merciless. Man.

2421
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had some like Dan Hendo UFC

2422
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 2: one ninety nine vibes in there. He was getting after it. Man.

2423
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: Good, good for steam Roller.

2424
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out there for Vola. Then Luke, he went

2425
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 2: after his big fish. His name is Patty.

2426
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 5: Listen up, Patty Piblet, you absolutely suck, stop being a

2427
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 5: bitch and let's.

2428
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 2: Fight, all right.

2429
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 5: You're on a fourth fight win streak. I'm on a

2430
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,759
Speaker 5: three fight win streak, and then you're in the UFC.

2431
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 5: You can't pick and choose your fights. You gotta fight

2432
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 5: who the fans want to them to see you fight.

2433
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 5: Let's go, who wants to see Patty Piblet of the

2434
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 5: steam Roller.

2435
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 1: Let's go who wants it? Let's go, bro.

2436
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 2: The time is now, Look, the time is now. You agree, Uh?

2437
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't mind that fight I don't mind that fight Patty.

2438
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: It's winnable for Patty, but it's winnable for Steamroller as well.

2439
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: And sure I think it makes.

2440
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 2: Empty that fight is going to be crazy though, Like

2441
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 2: I like that would be a wild fight. I'd be

2442
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 2: all over that.

2443
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 1: Yes, it would be potentially bananas fair enough?

2444
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, Uh, you know Dana White does that if

2445
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 2: you know you you already know, but now you know

2446
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 2: you don't know. If you don't know, you better act somebody.

2447
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 2: You know. He does that that clip all the time. Luke,

2448
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: you have your own version when you say you'll b

2449
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 2: c get another hammer ready in the shelf behind you.

2450
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 2: This time, Lukey, you said Ikram, I'll just scare off

2451
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 2: could potentially do scary things to not just Phil Hawes,

2452
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 2: but to everybody. Look, you were right. This guy's uh,

2453
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: this guy's a monster, dude.

2454
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: Wow, poor Phil Hawes man. When I saw this, I

2455
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: was like, I did not want to see him fight

2456
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 1: this guy. I was like, I didn't like it, And

2457
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: of course I think all the scare off didn't look

2458
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: great At first. He had a he had this weird

2459
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of hand out here and he was getting hit

2460
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: over the top with it. With by Phil Haw. But

2461
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: I think he was also setting a bit of a

2462
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: trap and kind of luring him in.

2463
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 2: And dude, that's a monster knockout. That is like, oh

2464
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 2: my god.

2465
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: Remember remember he polished off the Contender series kid inside

2466
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: of a round and this was his UFC debut and

2467
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: he won that inside of a round. I am telling you,

2468
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: Alice Kaov is going to make some waves in this division.

2469
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:21,959
Speaker 1: People are about to be put on notice.

2470
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 2: That's like Michael Chandler against Patricky, like like where you're like,

2471
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 2: oh my god, like like a fire, like like shot

2472
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: with a shotgun, Luke, just a bomb just went off.

2473
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:36,759
Speaker 1: Damn Yeah. These Russian there, these Russian fellas. Boy there

2474
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 1: we're in a hurry.

2475
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Luke.

2476
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

2477
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 2: Then we had Morob delivering the moment here as O'Malley

2478
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 2: took his jacket off. Did you pop for this or

2479
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 2: was that the was it? I mean, it's more of

2480
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 2: my style humor.

2481
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's pretty funny that he took the jacket.

2482
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:52,879
Speaker 1: I have to say, I also really like the jacket.

2483
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give I'll give o'melly that he sometimes you

2484
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 2: know he can win that ordeal. But wow, Okay, let's

2485
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 2: keep it going here. Here is the sounding question, Luke, Dana. Also,

2486
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 2: we'll be selling time shares after this event. Let's listen it.

2487
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: It's working out, is what you're saying.

2488
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 2: Basically, it's fucking unbelievable.

2489
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 4: Not only is it unbelievable money wise, it's been unbelievable

2490
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 4: as far as social media goes. We're number one in

2491
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 4: all of sports. And when I say all of sports,

2492
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 4: if you take the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, F one,

2493
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 4: WWE and whom I've forgetten and added them all together,

2494
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 4: their numbers don't compare to slaps.

2495
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2496
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems a little doubtful.

2497
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can doubt it all you want. I also

2498
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 1: doubt that the proof is in the putt in, Luke.

2499
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

2500
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean when I think about social media stars, I

2501
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: think about SLAP. I don't know about you.

2502
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm gonna need three hundred pages to read to

2503
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 2: prove that, Luke. I need a full report here. I

2504
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 2: don't I question those those, But how about just that

2505
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 2: it's a real shitty Look, I guess that's that's not

2506
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 2: part of this, Luke. All right, you know what, Dan

2507
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,879
Speaker 2: would be great? Like a CEO of like a cigarette company, Luke, right.

2508
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 1: In what way?

2509
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 2: Just like like, I.

2510
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 1: Don't give a shit.

2511
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 2: If it gets you cancer, don't smoke it. Don't smoke it.

2512
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 2: Then I'm not. No one's making you smoke it, no one.

2513
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: No one's putting this in your mouth, right right, Luke,

2514
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 2: This this is a consensual transaction.

2515
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 1: Consensual that doesn't mean it's good for you.

2516
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 2: Try it once, you'll be back bit All right, Hey,

2517
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 2: it's time for the brawl of the week, Luke. It

2518
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 2: happened in this restaurant. Man, watch out, Watch out, dude, dude.

2519
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Oh Jesus, look, my man's just sitting

2520
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: here trying to enjoy his ramin and shit, wow dude,

2521
01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 1: and they're just throwing food at each other and ship too.

2522
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

2523
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is you know, I don't even know if

2524
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: we should have ran this, Luke, This got real, right damn.

2525
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Then just chucking that hot ass water he did the

2526
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: old Jake Shields. Did you see that? Yeah, Shields chuck

2527
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: the hot coffee.

2528
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I remember that. All right, here, let's go.

2529
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 2: You know what, stuff is always cool, Luke, When people

2530
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: like paraglide and then they land safely and you're always like,

2531
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 2: does it go that way every time? You know what

2532
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean? You mean, yeah, maybe we could knock that

2533
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 2: tree down to clear the runway. Please, that would be great.

2534
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 1: All right. They clearly thought about it, you know.

2535
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, Luke, it's a beach. Sisson is going to

2536
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: be upon us very shortly. It's getting real warm up

2537
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 2: here in CT. Also sad Castle.

2538
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 1: It's a new America.

2539
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: That's the lighthouse, Luke.

2540
01:56:55,600 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: It's yeah, why does your lighthouse have veins?

2541
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: All right? Uh yeah, let's go. Let's go to the

2542
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 2: fishing boat. You gotta be careful on the water these days, Luke.

2543
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 2: For those those drunk drunk boat driving do you boat?

2544
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: Do uy?

2545
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 2: Is a real thing? Luke.

2546
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus CROs Oh what the fuck?

2547
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

2548
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh god?

2549
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: So wait, so who was driving on the Oh dude,

2550
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers have to abandon ship.

2551
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 2: Look at that when when someone's at your honey.

2552
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: Hole, this is this is I'm these two people on

2553
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: the boat and BC is the other boat with his jokes.

2554
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 1: No matter what else we're talking about, we just got

2555
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: to move out of the way because that shit's coming.

2556
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 2: It's like QUNO couple diseases at the Newark train station. Luke. Right,

2557
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 2: it's inevitable. Just let it pass, right, like Luke walking

2558
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 2: through first class on this way to coach just cropstorm,

2559
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 2: just you know what I mean. Just yeah, that's great. Okay,

2560
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 2: let's keep it going here, Luke, let's go to uh

2561
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 2: this is uh, this is great. You're gonna love this.

2562
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that should have been us on our live show.

2563
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe we didn't do that.

2564
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 2: I should have planned that. I should have did the

2565
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 2: whole like Willy Wonka thing where I walk in on

2566
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 2: a cane and then I flip at you know, Dom

2567
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 2: Cruise did that, Luke. Ahead of his comeback one time, Hey,

2568
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 2: Canelo's homecoming in Mexico, we said it was just spectacular.

2569
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 2: Why don't you be the judge? Here here's some uh,

2570
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 2: here's some flashing scene. Oh first, Luke before the entrance. Dude,

2571
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 2: his grandma got to attend her first fight of his

2572
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 2: sixty two fight pro career. This was the precious moment.

2573
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 2: How about shout out for elders, Luke Ray.

2574
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty great. I think she was that. You

2575
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: said ninety four right, something like that.

2576
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, la Abuela de Canelo.

2577
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, uh yeah, all right.

2578
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: All right, and then we had the epic ring entry

2579
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 2: where they got every Mariachi live body available for this. Wow, dude,

2580
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 2: look at this.

2581
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty Mariachi band members, all of the dancers,

2582
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 1: this giant screen, the ring walk, and then the fireworks

2583
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: went off there and the fireworks went off at the

2584
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: top of the stadium like again like an Olympic Stadium

2585
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: opening ceremonies thing. So it wasn't just the local ones,

2586
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 1: it was the entire house had fireworks. I mean, fucking insane. Dude.

2587
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 1: Look at that thing. Looks like got a scene from

2588
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: tron you know what I mean?

2589
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 2: Like who in boxing can pull this off? Like Anthony

2590
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 2: Joshua can Tyson Fury could? Yeah, mellow does it?

2591
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 1: How do you not get how do you not get

2592
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 1: Olympic Games vibes from this? It's just the most absurd

2593
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen.

2594
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty awesome. And AJ's had some great ones

2595
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 2: in England, but this is in the UK, across the

2596
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 2: way all over for AJ. But this is great. This

2597
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 2: is Chris. I mean, look at look at that bad

2598
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 2: ass right there.

2599
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: And then watch watch the lights come in like a

2600
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: pulsating effect. Behind him. Let's see, let's keep keep look

2601
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 1: look look see that See the pulsating effect just insane.

2602
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 1: By the way, is it my imagination or could you

2603
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 1: hear a heartbeat pumped into the sound system? Yeah, the

2604
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 1: one shows.

2605
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I've heard something like that as well,

2606
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 2: and I've questioned what I've heard, Luke.

2607
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't hear it here, but anyway, that's that's

2608
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 1: one of the most amazing walkouts I've ever seen.

2609
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just good ship. Uh if you like that, Luke,

2610
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 2: how about the classy meeting between Canelo and an incredibly

2611
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:51,120
Speaker 2: tough John Ryder in the locker room. Let's listen in. Yeah,

2612
02:00:51,360 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 2: I know, I feel it. It's glad to share the religion.

2613
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 4: I thank you so much.

2614
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 2: You know we don't do enough wholesome ship in this segment, Luke,

2615
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 2: that was great.

2616
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is fine. But if I don't

2617
02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 1: see elders breaking their spines on motorized scooters, I don't

2618
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: really get a whole lot out of this.

2619
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 2: All right, it's time to test out the old family jewels, Luke.

2620
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 2: All right, good timing, right.

2621
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 1: I see these things at the park my kid goes to,

2622
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the fucking moron. He was like, you

2623
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 1: know what kids need. They need centrifugal force. That's what

2624
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 1: they need. Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what

2625
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 1: they need. Centrifugal force.

2626
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 2: Dude, that kid got reverse crotched by that thing.

2627
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: Luke Well, I mean, listen, these kids are morons. That's okay.

2628
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: You know, we're not losing any roads. Song.

2629
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:58,200
Speaker 2: He may be unable to conceive children after that, but hey,

2630
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 2: we got it on tape. It leafs. Let's go to

2631
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 2: the golf course here.

2632
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 1: That's how they used to do vi sectomies in the

2633
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: nineteenth century. Here we go. Just the worst, just the

2634
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 1: fucking worst piece of shit ever you got, just assaulting

2635
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 1: the grounds crew.

2636
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of nuts, Luke Appy sending this video to me literally,

2637
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 2: David Appleton from the twenty sixteen Euros Have you ever

2638
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 2: heard of a German coach joaqum low.

2639
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 1: Luke yergi low is kind of how they pronounce it, yeah,

2640
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 1: urg yeah. He digs in here and then just sniffs

2641
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: it like an absolute baboon. Look at this fucking ape.

2642
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 1: Look at this fucking ape.

2643
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Wow. So that is so oh no no.

2644
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, digging are you fucking monster?

2645
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 2: Come on?

2646
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, yeah, you get that, get that whiff,

2647
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 1: Get that whiff, get higher on your own supply. You disgusting,

2648
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 1: fucking barn animals.

2649
02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 2: Do you kids be lunk? You can't go in the caves?

2650
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, dude. My man was like, I'm gonna

2651
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 1: go cave diving like a like a team of thie

2652
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: soccer players that are thirteen years old. This fucking guy

2653
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 1: is the most discussing. Oh yeah, just digging there, digging there,

2654
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: fella there.

2655
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 2: He pulled shit out of his nail beds. Luke Man

2656
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 2: old man low hate shit.

2657
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of have you seen this shit he has?

2658
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 2: Luke. I've got photos for you that were sent to

2659
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 2: me by Meta themselves. Look, it's funny that they didn't

2660
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 2: respond to my requests for an interview with ad Zuck

2661
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 2: about his first BJJ tournament over the weekend. Look, you

2662
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 2: know he won a bunch of medals, according to the post.

2663
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: Just let me let me say something. If you compete

2664
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu, you can do a thing where every

2665
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 1: weekend you find a local tournament to go and win medals.

2666
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything, but it doesn't

2667
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 1: mean much. People can It's not hard for anyone to

2668
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: win a medal at your local grappling tournament.

2669
02:03:56,640 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 2: Okay, just remember I made the John DuPont comparison. You

2670
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 2: got all up in arms, Luke. This is what Johnny

2671
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:03,120
Speaker 2: p used to.

2672
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 3: Do, right.

2673
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 2: He'd have the brothers train him and then he'd go

2674
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 2: to like the over fifty grappling wrestling tournaments, and I

2675
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 2: think that everybody would let him win.

2676
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know his other coaches. The other

2677
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 1: one there was Dave Camerrio, who I really like a lot.

2678
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, this is how you know jiu

2679
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: jitsu is becoming uncool. This is this is your this

2680
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 1: is this face no longer cool?

2681
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, you're saying our parents ruined Facebook.

2682
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I mean it's like this. I can't believe people, dude.

2683
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,280
Speaker 1: People will tell you with their political opinions about how

2684
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: they can't stand the tech oligarchy. Then one member of

2685
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 1: the tech oligarchy shows some interest in combat sports, and

2686
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: everyone all of a sudden just turns into like, isn't

2687
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 1: he great? No, no, no, he's not, Like, Like, why

2688
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 1: the what the fuck are you talking about?

2689
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 2: Icon? Okay, you're just the hater mixed skater I got

2690
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 2: those picks directly from meta Luke.

2691
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, congratulations, great jiu jitsu. Now for fucking nerds

2692
02:04:57,640 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: and uh guys who look the other way on me

2693
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: and more.

2694
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 2: See, Luke, you would think it's not fair that I

2695
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 2: love hot dogs so much because that's how I was raised,

2696
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 2: and then now I've got this black liver right, Like,

2697
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 2: to me, that's not fair. But we always say, well, dude,

2698
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 2: look what's inside of them? Right, Like it's always like

2699
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 2: a mystery, like what do you think is in hot dogs?

2700
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Off the top of your head? Like just absolute shit, right,

2701
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 2: I mean, just the worst things ever, right.

2702
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

2703
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 2: Apparently it's worse.

2704
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 1: We get the connection.

2705
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 2: Apparently it's worse than you think. Let's go to CBS News, Luke.

2706
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 7: People who eat hot dogs eat them because they taste

2707
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 7: so good, but within them is not so good.

2708
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 2: You know.

2709
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 7: We've learned to accept it, but I don't know if

2710
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 7: you'll feel so accepting after this. The company Clear Foods

2711
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 7: recently analyzed three hundred forty five hot dog and sausage

2712
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 7: products from seventy five brands and retailers and found, are

2713
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 7: you hot dog lovers ready for this human DNA in

2714
02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 7: two percent of the samples and two thirds of the

2715
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 7: vegetarian samples. And get this, ten percent of all vegetarian

2716
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 7: products appear to contain meat. Clear Food says that there

2717
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 7: are some companies producing high quality hot dog tops.

2718
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 2: I've heard enough right there, Luke, What are you gonna

2719
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,879
Speaker 2: tell me next? Soil and green is made out of people, Luke.

2720
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you do you want your hot dog

2721
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: boiled or grilled? Because I know that ain't gonna change

2722
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 1: a fucking thing with the way you live.

2723
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of Charlton Hes, I think I've seen this film

2724
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 2: before in eighth grade science class. Let's go to the videotape.

2725
02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 1: Do they can be like hot dogs are ninety eight

2726
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 1: percent feces and you'd be like, yeah, t eat up

2727
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: gottle food.

2728
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 7: You gotta tell him, you gotta tell.

2729
02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Him, Promise, Tiger, I promise, I'll tell the exchange. You

2730
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 1: tell everybody.

2731
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 3: Listen to me, Hetcher, you gotta tell him silent breed

2732
02:06:53,120 --> 02:06:53,919
Speaker 3: is paper.

2733
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 1: We gotta stop him.

2734
02:06:57,240 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 2: Numb and so are hot dogs. Luke. Finally, you are

2735
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 2: what you eat. Yeah, all right, hello, my baby, hell hey, Luke.

2736
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 2: One Championship had their first ever US card outside of Denver. Here,

2737
02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 2: let's go to the images. H I got a question

2738
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 2: for you. Why shot e Sha Tree shouting so much?

2739
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 3: Luke, Let's listen, Maywell, that's he's fifty and oh Ro

2740
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 3: Tongue has two hundred and seventy professional wins. We are

2741
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 3: talking world and leak pound for pound, devastating Chaoe striker.

2742
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 3: I chat wait for Americans to see what elite striking

2743
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 3: truly is.

2744
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 2: Mommy, why is that gentleman screaming at us?

2745
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 1: It's like, sir, this is a Wendy's relax.

2746
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 2: He was fired up, though I did enjoy the cards.

2747
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of the card, Luke, the most electrifying force in

2748
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 2: combat sports was back stam Fairtech's here is that kick

2749
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 2: that sent Alisa Anderson down for good damn? And it

2750
02:07:58,280 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 2: was loud too, Luke.

2751
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 1: It was perfectly timed and just vicious. There's the dance, Luke.

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02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 2: Would you say that she is a star in the

2753
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,440
Speaker 2: making or she's already.

2754
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 1: There, Luke, star in the making? I mean at least

2755
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:13,480
Speaker 1: here domestically, But no, she's not a star.

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02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:16,680
Speaker 2: Okay, do you think that she could win? I know

2757
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 2: she already lost the Adam Wait title against what Angela

2758
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 2: Lee It was a really good fight. By the way.

2759
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:25,200
Speaker 2: I think she's trying to become, you know, rematched in

2760
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:29,440
Speaker 2: that down the road here. You'd be into that. Uh yeah, sure,

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02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 2: all right, okay, Luke, rod Tang was not to be

2762
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 2: outdone in terms of dance moves from old stamp. I

2763
02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:39,600
Speaker 2: didn't know he had this in his repertoire.

2764
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish she didn't.

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02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 2: Does that take away from his bad assery, Luke? Or

2766
02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 2: does it add to it?

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02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: No, I didn't take away anything. Just makes it like

2768
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 1: a tax you have to pay to enjoy it, you know.

2769
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's enjoy it, Luke. This is this is

2770
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 2: what rod Tang does, right, I mean, he's like a

2771
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,440
Speaker 2: barbarian in there.

2772
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 1: Just ridiculous. Pow. I saw this in real time. My

2773
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:08,440
Speaker 1: god man just sent this dude packing.

2774
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he pointed at him. He defended his

2775
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 2: featherweight Muay Thai one title, taking souls with helbows. Let's

2776
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 2: go over to rod Tang now being eaten by the

2777
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 2: Americans after eating a ton of hot dogs that were

2778
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 2: made out of people. Luke, they are swallowing up rod Tang.

2779
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 2: Love to see it, though.

2780
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't get either. Swallowing him.

2781
02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 2: What do you mean, dude, Look at the look at

2782
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 2: the crowd like they're going nuts for him. There.

2783
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought you were going to show me

2784
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 1: some porn he was getting blown or something.

2785
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:42,760
Speaker 2: Okay, look all right, we mentioned DJ was really good.

2786
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 2: Uh when he got that clinched, Luke, Let's see the

2787
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 2: best highlight here from DJ Adriano three.

2788
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was sick. Yeah. That jump knee, that jumps

2789
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:52,840
Speaker 1: ont of side in the there he goes to the

2790
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 1: body then run up top. That's just so slick.

2791
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 2: After the fight, Mighty Mouse spoke that he wasn't sure

2792
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:00,040
Speaker 2: if he's going to return or not, but the and

2793
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 2: kairod Akhmedov came calling, Luke, and I asked you whether

2794
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:04,840
Speaker 2: you care about this?

2795
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 1: I guess you know it's up to I mean, if

2796
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 1: DJ wanted to fight, I would be interested in seeing

2797
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: him continue to compete. But if you called it a day,

2798
02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:15,879
Speaker 1: would you would you care? Like, oh we got denied

2799
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 1: x or wi fi. At this point, I respect.

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02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 2: Whatever he does. He's earned it, Luke. He's one of

2801
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:22,840
Speaker 2: the greatest of all time. There's not a question that guy.

2802
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:24,160
Speaker 2: That man wild all the way.

2803
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 1: It was nice to see him cheer too, like the

2804
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,520
Speaker 1: fans were like mighty mouse like man like, how the

2805
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 1: world has changed, uh in the last ten years.

2806
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 2: Let's go to the playground.

2807
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 1: He's just enjoying what.

2808
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:41,120
Speaker 2: I would hate it for him if it were damn,

2809
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 2: oh shit, oh oh god, gotta get chick on it.

2810
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, adults should get the fuck off the equipment. That's

2811
02:10:58,720 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 1: what they should do.

2812
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:02,320
Speaker 2: I think that was a child. Look, I think I

2813
02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:02,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

2814
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 1: That couldn't been away. Show that again real quickly, Show

2815
02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 1: that again. Was that that was an adult? Dude? Look

2816
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 1: how much bigger he is?

2817
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 2: Well, no one came to his aids, so maybe it.

2818
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 1: Was exactly if it was a child, you know, they'd

2819
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, look at this. Look at

2820
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: this motherfucker just breaking the ship. You're just costing taxpayers money.

2821
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:23,040
Speaker 1: Get the fuck off the equipment.

2822
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 2: Coaching the nitty lions, but stay off our playgrounds. That's

2823
02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 2: what it comes down. I got two more for you, Luke.

2824
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 2: I've learned a lot in forty four years. But I've

2825
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 2: also learned that only three things in life matter.

2826
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 5: There's three things are enjoying life, flicking Jean, eating the gene,

2827
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 5: and driving green.

2828
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 2: Not necessarily in that order, though, it looks to be fair. Wow.

2829
02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, dude, that is that that's the living embodiment

2830
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:03,680
Speaker 1: of Wineham Dynham sixty nine.

2831
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:09,400
Speaker 2: That kid's gonna be uh gonna be uh yeah, Tommy,

2832
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean that that guy.

2833
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 1: Is gonna have his wages garnished in about ten years.

2834
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 1: That's who that kid's gonna be. Let me just be

2835
02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 1: very clear of that. He is going to be entering

2836
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 1: one way or the other, the American criminal justice system.

2837
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:25,360
Speaker 2: So uh, luke, let's close with our joke of the

2838
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 2: week from daughter to father. Hey, dad, yep, what's the

2839
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 2: difference between two dacks and a joke? I can't take

2840
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 2: a joke. Let's tell you.

2841
02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:48,880
Speaker 1: If my daughter comes to me with a joke like that,

2842
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ship her to a monastery in the middle

2843
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 1: of Bolivia. That's what I'm gonna do.

2844
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna say much respect to you in the

2845
02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 2: late Kobe Bryant Lucas hashtag girl dads. But wow, you

2846
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:04,840
Speaker 2: know that is just she landed the plane, Luke. What

2847
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 2: a delivery there, right.

2848
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she was she was committed to the bit.

2849
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 1: She was committed to it. I'll give her credit. She

2850
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:10,840
Speaker 1: sold it.

2851
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 2: That's your feces. Luke, hope you saw it. I hope

2852
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it all right.

2853
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: I want to thank all the sponsors who don't exist

2854
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: for today's show. They've been nice, great to keep us

2855
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 1: afloat here.

2856
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 2: She goes bailbonds. Yes, yes, yes, uh.

2857
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 1: Let's remind everyone else we are going to be in

2858
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:27,880
Speaker 1: studio Friday. Here's what we should do. Let's put it

2859
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 1: out at Morningcombat at gmail dot com. There's you can

2860
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 1: follow us on social of course that we appreciate that.

2861
02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 1: Give us a follow or shoot us an email Morning

2862
02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 1: Combat at Gmail. What do you want to see for

2863
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 1: like a fun segment on Friday show? We're gonna be

2864
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 1: in studio the whole nine yards fun time, Like what

2865
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 1: what do you have in mind? Because I would, I

2866
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 1: really want to make sure we deliver, like when we

2867
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 1: go in studios now it needs to be we got

2868
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:51,200
Speaker 1: to ratchet it up, fella, so it's got to be

2869
02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:54,040
Speaker 1: another level. Let's let us know. So you can do

2870
02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:55,840
Speaker 1: that there. Of course, fan subs and dead wrong, we'll

2871
02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:56,360
Speaker 1: do that there.

2872
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:58,960
Speaker 2: We can do High Court and make Jake vun Amsterdam

2873
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 2: the appointed judge.

2874
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:05,680
Speaker 1: Lukey, God, do you do you really believe in his jurisprudence.

2875
02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:09,920
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I don't. All right, let's see

2876
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:13,120
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2877
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Speaker 1: then not returned.

2878
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, there there was a hiccup. But it's

2879
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:20,240
Speaker 2: been fixed. We have been assured by the team and

2880
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 2: they have proven it. The website is still active. People

2881
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:24,800
Speaker 2: will receive your orders.

2882
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:27,240
Speaker 1: So you want to wear I like, I like joking,

2883
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:27,960
Speaker 1: I like joking.

2884
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:30,000
Speaker 2: You want to wear this stuff? The best merch ever?

2885
02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:30,280
Speaker 4: Right?

2886
02:14:30,600 --> 02:14:32,760
Speaker 2: Hey? How good? Though as much as we love r J,

2887
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:34,520
Speaker 2: we hope to work with him again. Luke, we love

2888
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:37,840
Speaker 2: that man. Average Joe art last week basically auditioned for

2889
02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 2: the role. Did you see that?

2890
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean was yes, Yes, he sure did. And then uh,

2891
02:14:43,360 --> 02:14:45,360
Speaker 1: let's see Showtime. Showtime dot Com is the labeled that

2892
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:46,240
Speaker 1: page Showtime.

2893
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:49,920
Speaker 2: Like subplot subplot. Luke doesn't care if average Joe lives

2894
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:50,360
Speaker 2: or dies.

2895
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Thank youstly don't care if you live or die. That's

2896
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,240
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say. But Showtime dot Com get

2897
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:57,800
Speaker 1: a thirty day free troty like you can keep it.

2898
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:01,320
Speaker 1: If not, you can bounce. All right, that is it.

2899
02:15:01,400 --> 02:15:04,360
Speaker 1: We see any final thoughts for today's and two hour

2900
02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:05,240
Speaker 1: and twenty minute show.

2901
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:10,360
Speaker 2: We are the best thing going in combat sports today.

2902
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 2: I think that's obvious by the hard word that you

2903
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 2: people have put on our shelves. But also, Luke, you know,

2904
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 2: for people that enjoy the ups and downs the growth

2905
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:24,880
Speaker 2: of men as a lifestyle, we also offer that too,

2906
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 2: all right, So thank you to the MK core, right,

2907
02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:32,880
Speaker 2: the weirdest of the weirdos, Luke, the pe ones for

2908
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 2: propping us up every single day, right, Luke, because one day,

2909
02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:39,920
Speaker 2: one day, you may need a body buried, Luke, and

2910
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:41,800
Speaker 2: we have thousands who are ready to help you.

2911
02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 1: Thanks. Thanks Brian uh okay, thanks to everyone who watched

2912
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 1: the Rashad interview that's still up at YouTube dot com

2913
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 1: Slash Morning Combat. Same with the Sehudo resume review. We'll

2914
02:15:55,080 --> 02:15:56,680
Speaker 1: have some more content that we're gonna build out for

2915
02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:58,320
Speaker 1: you on Friday. So it's gonna be a fun time,

2916
02:15:58,360 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 1: all right for everyone at my Welka CBS showtime in

2917
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:04,360
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. That's Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas.

2918
02:16:04,640 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. We're out of here

2919
02:16:06,200 --> 02:16:09,120
Speaker 1: and until next time, may all of your gains be loyal.