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Speaker 1: It's time to catch a cheater.

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Speaker 2: Michael is on the phone today for to Catch a Cheater,

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Speaker 2: and he's been dating Harper for three months, but now

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Speaker 2: he thinks something might be going on. So so we're

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Speaker 2: gonna see if we can catch her cheating or not

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Speaker 2: cheating in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But first, Michael, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Tells what's going on?

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Speaker 3: So this schick Harper Man.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we've been in there, this relationship for

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Speaker 4: about three months now, give her take and this, you know,

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Speaker 4: it just feels like the whole relationship she's been you know,

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Speaker 4: sneaking around my back, you know what I mean, just

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Speaker 4: this little things here and there just aren't adding up, okay,

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Speaker 4: And I just really need to find out, like what's

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Speaker 4: going on, you know, because you know Harper, she's a

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Speaker 4: great girl. We have you know, great times when we

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Speaker 4: hang out. But you know, she's I had to say this.

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Speaker 4: She's she's been of like a like a free spirit,

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Speaker 4: I guess kind of girl.

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Speaker 3: You know, she kind of just.

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Speaker 4: Goes with the flow. You know, she just like lives

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Speaker 4: in the moment, you know what I mean, that kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably what you like about her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's cool. Yeah, I'm definitely down with it.

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Speaker 3: But it's just it seems a little much like it

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Speaker 4: Free spirit like kind of going with the float, but

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Speaker 4: then again, like I don't know, like you know, just

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Speaker 4: things aren't adding up, you know when it comes to

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Speaker 4: Okay for instance, you know, you know, we've been spending

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Speaker 4: a lot of time together and I like her, you know,

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Speaker 4: but there's you know, she's always like has an excuse

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Speaker 4: to like never spend the night.

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Speaker 3: It's it's just weird.

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Speaker 1: And she she.

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Speaker 4: Never lets me, you know, she never lets me go

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Speaker 4: to her house, you know, first of all, so I'm

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Speaker 4: never there. You know, I've never I've never met any

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Speaker 4: of her friends, you know what I mean. And then

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Speaker 4: most of our dates that we have are they're just

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Speaker 4: coming over, but you know, she never stays, like I said,

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Speaker 4: and there's like no PDA ever, you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Just it kind of feels like it kind of feels

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Speaker 3: like I'm like a side piece or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, but what does she like to just take

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Speaker 1: things a little slow.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, but but no PDA like ever, like

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Speaker 4: you know, she hardly ever like.

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Speaker 3: Kisses me and stuff, and I don't know, it's weird.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, I you know, she has the

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Speaker 4: social media stuff, right, so I kind of go in

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Speaker 4: there and look around and stuff, but it's just like

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Speaker 4: it's just pictures of her and like food, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like no people.

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Speaker 3: So it's really weird, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I know it sounds weird, guys, I No, no.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've been in situations like that where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: she sees me, we talk, But then also it seems

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Speaker 2: like it's at certain times and then certain times they're

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Speaker 2: always like I fell asleep, and then it's the next day,

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Speaker 2: you know, every single time, it's like I think you're

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Speaker 2: just home with whoever you're with, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's an example.

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Speaker 4: So she's at work, right and I go to her

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Speaker 4: job to pick her up from work, you know, and

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Speaker 4: even go inside of her job, you know. And when

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Speaker 4: she gets to the car, we drove off and I

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Speaker 4: was like, hey, I was like, what was that about?

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Speaker 4: Locketting get out? And she was just like well, I

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Speaker 3: To bounce you as quick as possible. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was like, still, I haven't met any of her friends,

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Speaker 3: it's just not right, but I like her a lot though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just not sure if she's being totally one

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Speaker 1: and maybe she's just being cautious. But it does sound

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Speaker 5: But wasn't you, like three months, wouldn't you, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think we're in our like what do you call

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Speaker 3: Stuff, you know, right?

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Speaker 1: Right? Definitely?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we'll see what's going on. You already told

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Speaker 2: us what grocery store. What grocery store. She's a rewards card, remember,

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Speaker 2: at So we'll call up, pretending to be from the

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Speaker 2: grocery store and say that she's this month's big winner

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Speaker 2: of thirty six long stin red roses to be delivered

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Speaker 2: to anybody that she wants, and we'll see if she

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, man, I appreciate it that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, all right, we'll play a song, come back

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Speaker 2: and get your to catch a cheater next, it's time

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Speaker 2: to catch a cheater.

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Speaker 1: If you're just joining us for today's to Catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 2: Michael is on the phone and he's been dating Harper

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Speaker 2: for three months, but he's pretty sure that something is

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Speaker 2: going on. So we're about to call her and pretend

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Speaker 2: to be from the grocery store that she's a rewards

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Speaker 2: card member at and say that every single month, we

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Speaker 2: choose one random awards card member who gets free flowers

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Speaker 2: delivered from our floral department. We'll see if she sends those. Well,

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Speaker 2: first we'll see if she believes it, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: see if she sends those to Michael or to somebody else. Hey, Michael,

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Speaker 2: Before we do that, though, why don't you refresh everybody's

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, me and Harper we've been dating for

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Speaker 4: about three months now. So and see it's been kind

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Speaker 4: she doesn't want to spend a lot of time together

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Speaker 4: and three months is very earlier in the relationship. She

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to do any PDA like ever, I haven't

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Speaker 4: met any of her friends, co workers, and all the

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Speaker 1: I think you might be a side piece.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think I'm a side piece.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, hopefully you're not, and hopefully it's a

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Speaker 2: good explanation. But you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, this is Trouble calling from I was looking

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Speaker 2: for a rewards card member named Harper.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Hi Harper.

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Speaker 2: Please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually calling to tell you congratulations. You're this month's

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Speaker 2: big winner.

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Speaker 6: What have I won?

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Speaker 2: What I Every single month, we choose one rewards card

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Speaker 2: member at random who gets free flowers delivered from our

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Speaker 2: floral department, just our little way of saying thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for shopping with us and being such a

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Speaker 2: loyal customer. So you've just won thirty six long stim

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Speaker 2: red roses. A box of chocolates and a card to

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Speaker 2: be delivered anywhere in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely free. It's a three hundred and forty two dollars value.

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Speaker 6: Actually, wow, amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's how it works.

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Speaker 2: If you know the person that you would like to

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Speaker 2: send them to right now, you have all the information.

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Speaker 2: I can do it just in a matter of minutes

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Speaker 2: over the phone. You get confirmations on everything. It's absolutely free.

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Speaker 6: I definitely have someone in mind that i'd like to.

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Speaker 1: N Okay, great, do you have just a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes to do that now? Wonderful?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: To start, I will just need to get the first

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Speaker 2: and the last name of the person you would like

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Speaker 2: to send the flowers too.

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Speaker 6: So it's going to be to Michael.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to put anything on a card?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just say to Michael, I can't get enough of you, Harker.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, So can't get enough of you? Okay, cool, Well

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Speaker 2: then I guess I'll just tell you the truth.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So my name is Actually and this is a radio show.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Jubil Show. Yeah, I mean I hear

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Speaker 1: on the show too, Hi, and I'm Victoria. Yeah. On

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Speaker 1: the show, Michael's actually on the phone too.

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Speaker 3: Oh Hi, Hey, hey, hey Harper. How's that was it going? Hey?

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Speaker 6: Pretty elaborate and weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael, do you want to explain what it is

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Speaker 2: or do you want me to?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do it, Okay, So I'll have a small

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Speaker 4: confession to make. Yeah, so I bought you on the

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Speaker 4: don't I know this, I know this is weird. Just

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Speaker 4: hold on. So as of lately, you know, you can

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Speaker 4: tell that I've been trying to like hang out more

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Speaker 4: don't know, You've been giving me some pushback, right, and

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Speaker 4: so like the behaviors are really sketchy. So I'm just

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Speaker 3: Giving me anything.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just I'm just here to try to through

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, just go out there.

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Speaker 7: I guess I should probably let you know that I

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Speaker 7: am in a relationship, but it's we're not cheating on

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Speaker 6: We're open and there's some.

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Speaker 7: Guidelines around that, you know, but the rule is is,

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Speaker 7: you know, we can do whatever we want, but we

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Speaker 7: always come home at night and no one else is

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Speaker 1: Oh whoa.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I think Michael's great. I I really

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Speaker 7: enjoy his company. He's a fantastic guy. But I'm very

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Speaker 7: free spirited and open and I'm having fun and I'd

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Speaker 7: like to keep seeing where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, were you gonna tell Michael this? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, when when was the time you're going to

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 7: It was something I feel that would come up a

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Speaker 7: little more if things were to keep going about the

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Speaker 7: half year mark, half year.

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Speaker 3: Half year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So about this other guy, like are you are

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Speaker 4: you guys like married or something like are you are

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Speaker 3: Or like why would you want to be with me?

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Speaker 3: Like like what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, we're married, but you know, he's musicians, so

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Speaker 7: he's traveling a lot. And we've always had an understanding that,

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Speaker 7: you know, we could do what we wanted, just don't

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Speaker 6: It in our bed. And I think you're great. I

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Speaker 7: But that's the situation, and I know that it's not

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Speaker 7: necessarily easy information to digest.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 4: Man, I've never ever been caught up in a situation.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you hear about this stuff on movies, right Like,

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Speaker 4: this never happens.

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Speaker 3: The this is nuts.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, Harper, You're You're great. I mean, I'm like, these

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Speaker 4: past three months have been tremendous. Like the only thing

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Speaker 4: that the only disconnect here is that like I want

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Speaker 4: to spend more time with you, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 4: and it just seems like you're not giving me that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but now that I know the reason why,

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Speaker 4: you know it kind of it makes me understand you.

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Speaker 3: Now you know a little bit more and I know

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Speaker 3: you're you know, free spirit girl. You know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is

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Speaker 4: that you know, I'm not really a side piece kind

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Speaker 4: of guy, really, but it does make me feel better

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Speaker 4: that you let me know.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean I never viewed you as a side piece,

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Speaker 7: know you have to weigh in on it. I respect

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Speaker 7: you know, I really think you're fantastic and if you're

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Speaker 6: I would like to keep seeing where this leaps.

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Speaker 1: Where can it lead though?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would you be open to leaving this guy?

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Speaker 7: Or that's a really hard question to answer, but you know,

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Speaker 7: the right person came along.

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Speaker 6: Who knows what would open up?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, basically, you know, I'd like to keep seeing

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Speaker 7: And I don't know if you've ever heard of the

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Speaker 7: concept of a ruffle at all, but maybe that's something

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Speaker 7: you might consider down the line. And you know, I

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Speaker 7: live with my husband and my lover, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 7: something for you to consider that. You know, you might

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Speaker 7: have heard about that in the movies that Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean that people are doing that. Michael, would you want

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Speaker 1: to be in house love?

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Speaker 3: I got to figure about it, okay, right now, I

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Speaker 3: do want to keep hanging out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, hey cool, I'm glad communication is happening. Ye

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Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. Good luck.

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Speaker 6: Oh and the flower thing? Do they do you stick

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Speaker 6: up the flowers? Do I get no flowers?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: There are no no flowers are but it sounds like

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Speaker 2: you guys are going to have fun anyway.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, the hell of a story

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Speaker 4: The jewel shows to catch a cheater,