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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: WA with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It's Thursday, September twelfth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number forty two. Welcome to another edition Off the Break.

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Speaker 1: We'll lock nest WBC Boarding studios at the start, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit of Washington defense today. Um.

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Speaker 1: Dave has this normal uh scoutter import on these guys,

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Speaker 1: probably the better part of their team, I would guess,

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Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that as we get into the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll also get into some injury updates. How's everybody feel

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Speaker 1: this morning? Great? Wow? No, I feel amazing, Thank you, Dave,

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Speaker 1: thanks for bringing the energy. Time good, great, grand wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Ready to go to our nation's capital watch some football? Yep, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel good too. I was listening to somebody get earlier.

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Speaker 1: So what I don't know? How to do? This? Guy?

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Speaker 1: I don't know it just makes your whole body. All right.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't know if it was music

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Speaker 1: or art or something else. Okay, good, got it, got

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Speaker 1: it so smooth. I feel good right now. Yeah. Cool,

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Speaker 1: Well you don't need dancing or just listening. No, just listening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right. How are you, Nick? I'm great, You're good. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you look like you're intently reviewing some notes so that

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Speaker 1: you're ready to tell us some amazing things about this

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Speaker 1: matchup between the Cowboys and the Redskins. No, but I'll

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Speaker 1: get there. I'm sure I'll come up with something here.

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't done in a long time. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went to the Six Flags. I don't know, well,

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Speaker 1: I went over the fourth of July. We haven't had

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Speaker 1: a story time with Nick in a long time. You

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Speaker 1: got any stories from the red Skins and maybe you

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Speaker 1: want to? Yeah, you could think about it. We could

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Speaker 1: get to it later. I just actually was working on

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Speaker 1: a top ten list of like the best wins ever

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Speaker 1: It always takes me back to my very first game

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Speaker 1: with the team in nineteen ninety nine, and they're twenty

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Speaker 1: one points in the fourth quarter, came back in one

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Speaker 1: and overtime. That was good. But you know what I

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Speaker 1: had to put on the list was Dak's first win

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Speaker 1: up there. You know, they're one one. What's gonna happen here?

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Speaker 1: You know the Giants, you know, is he the right

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Speaker 1: and then it's going to Washington. Dez is saying he

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Speaker 1: and just wins ten more after that in a row.

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Speaker 1: So I thought was an interesting win. I do think

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Speaker 1: I actually wrote about that this morning. Is this is

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing that happen in sixteen home game

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Speaker 1: get some updates on some injuries. Yesterday we find out

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Speaker 1: there were three players that did not participate in practice.

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Speaker 1: We didn't talk about it last week because it happened

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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Casanova. McKenzie not familiar with his worst but we

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Speaker 1: got that name. Casanova. You'd better be careful. Um Landon

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Speaker 1: Collins is probably always going to be down near the

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Speaker 1: line loaded box. That's I mean, we talked about that

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Speaker 1: when he was with the Giants. For you No, So

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Speaker 1: that's my point is if I had to guess, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not a coach, but like, I wonder how that

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Speaker 1: And I asked to Marcus ware this last night on

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Speaker 1: the Happy Hour podcast, like, after watching what Dack did

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Speaker 1: strength is to try to play big boy football and

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Speaker 1: shut down the run game. Is that what they're going

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Speaker 1: to do here? Are they going to try to redirect

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Speaker 1: and worry about the passing game and say, well, we'll

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Speaker 1: take our chances with a lightbox and maybe Zeke is

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Speaker 1: going to have some success. I can't really see that happening.

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Speaker 1: I think teams are going to make the Cowboys prove

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Speaker 1: that they can do that on a regular basis as

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Speaker 1: they should. As they should for sure, so I expect

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Speaker 1: to see Lannon Collins down there. I expect to see

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Speaker 1: them really focusing on limiting the ground game. I hope

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Speaker 1: that's what happens, because I think this is a favorite.

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Speaker 1: Like at seeing what we saw from Cooper and Gallop

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Speaker 1: and Cobb, I think this is a really favorable matchup

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Speaker 1: against those cornerbacks, Like I don't think very much of them.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I was going to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: what is the weakness of this defense? Is it the cornerbacks?

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Speaker 1: Is it defensive backs? One game? But I wasn't in

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Speaker 1: us by what I saw. And Monte Nicholson he's an

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Speaker 1: active player, like they blitzed him in this game. He

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Speaker 1: comes down near the line a lot too. But again, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not scared of them in terms of their coverage abilities.

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Speaker 1: Either one of them, Norman Alshon Jeffrey turned him around

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Speaker 1: that's your best corner I like Amari Cooper's odds there,

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Speaker 1: and I definitely like Michael Gallops odds going against Jimmy

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Speaker 1: favorable matchups. So let's see how the offensive line plays,

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Speaker 1: because if they were as good as they were in

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Speaker 1: Week one, then DAK should be just fine. Like it's

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Speaker 1: where it's if Carrigan is pushing Lyle Collins back into

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Speaker 1: Dak's face or if Dron Payne is just blowing up

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Speaker 1: double team blocks and DAK has no time. That's where

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Speaker 1: the problem comes from. Yeah, so they gave up two

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Speaker 1: forty plus yard passes to DeShawn Jackson. Was that more

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Speaker 1: about Deshaun Jackson speed or was it just cornerbacks were

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Speaker 1: just bad Deshaun Jackson speed? Okay, Josh Norman gave both

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Speaker 1: of them. I think it was the same play honestly,

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Speaker 1: because they were both trips formation to the right and

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Speaker 1: d jacks was in the slot and Josh Norman was

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Speaker 1: like ten fifteen yards off the line and it didn't matter,

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Speaker 1: like he just got behind him, which which we've seen

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Speaker 1: that before. Sean Jackson is a rare breed. He is

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Speaker 1: a rare breed. But like, I definitely would try that

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Speaker 1: with Gallup or Cooper. I mean they're pretty fast, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not slow, right, So and I think there's place

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Speaker 1: to be made there. All right, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back. We got

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Speaker 1: some questions rolling in from some fans. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: those questions. If you want to send them, you can

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Speaker 1: take some questions. You guys hit us up. Actually we

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Speaker 1: from Twitter. We'll start first with a question from Brian

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Speaker 1: stim We didn't really talk about this coming off last

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Speaker 1: week's game, but what did you guys think of Frederick

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Speaker 1: in his first action back following the injury. Didn't notice him.

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Speaker 1: That's great, that's a good thing, I think. So yeah, they,

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Speaker 1: I mean they didn't everything they wanted to do. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't sacked that. The red zone was perfect, Dak was perfect,

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Speaker 1: didn't see any snaps go over his head, didn't see anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the penalty's on him. I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he played no. If you ask him,

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Speaker 1: he probably said, oh it was it was average. But

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Speaker 1: that's just him. Yeah, I completely agree with everything you

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Speaker 1: just said, which we talked about it Monday. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin has had seasons where he only got flagged twice, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how how he builds on that, Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, will this injury, Will that be a trend

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Speaker 1: because he's bothered by his back or is it just

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Speaker 1: him on a tripping. I thought that was a good call,

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Speaker 1: And I always get surprised when the refs see that,

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Speaker 1: it was a good call by the refs. But the

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Speaker 1: other one was a holding palty that I'm still not

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Speaker 1: sure they called it on the right guy, because I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know if that was a holding on Zach.

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Speaker 1: But Mickey didn't think so either. The day Mickey agrees

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Speaker 1: with a call against the Cowboys will be it's pretty

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Speaker 1: quiet up there. He sits behind us next to an amber,

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Speaker 1: and he was quiet. I mean there was there was

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Speaker 1: not He's he'll get on the officials. Oh yeah, oh

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Speaker 1: a question from Jake benoist Um. He says, this Karagan

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Speaker 1: Uh And like I said, paying against Williams and Frederick

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Speaker 1: a good player. He should be. But I'll take Tyrn

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Speaker 1: But like I said, Elsie has told me himself how

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Speaker 1: just see where the Redskins kind of can move the

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Speaker 1: chain to keep things going. Keenham as a smart quarterback,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna find, you know, a way to get the

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Speaker 1: screens stuff like that. Yeah, I think that's one of

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Speaker 1: And it's it's hard sometimes to account for those guys

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Speaker 1: different things with him. They're gonna be looking to create

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Speaker 1: a lot this Sunday. Say back to Kerry and I think,

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Speaker 1: the run, so I wonder if we're gonna see him

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting. Like I said, watching those

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Speaker 1: like a little kid like week in. Lyle is not weak,

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Speaker 1: so we'll be We'll see how much strength he gained

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Speaker 1: during this offseason. It's gonna be fun to watch. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you saw it floating around. But Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 1: gave him the highest grade of any offensive lineman in

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Speaker 1: the league for Week one. Yeah, and I mean that's

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Speaker 1: really impressive. But we know the Giants don't have great

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Speaker 1: So all right, let's take a call. Actually, we got

634
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Speaker 1: a call from Brandon in Kentucky. Brandon, what up? Hey,

635
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: how you guys doing good? I'm doing pretty good. A

636
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: long time listener, first time caller. Thank you. My questions

637
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: kind of a future into the into the season question.

638
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm a big Madden player, so I'm always playing Cowboys

639
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: and thinking of trades. What kind of trade could you see?

640
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Realistic trade? You could see this team making future into

641
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: the into the sea. Then maybe around my week of

642
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: a position that we might need to improve on. Well,

643
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: thanks for the calling. Yeah, I appreciate it. I think

644
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, you don't want to knock on

645
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: wood here, but I mean I think they're pretty good

646
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: on most positions. It would have to take probably an

647
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: injury or something like that and to create a void

648
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: where you're like, okay, well maybe we need to go

649
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: get some help. I just don't see where where you

650
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: have that right now. I'm not saying this team it's perfect,

651
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: but to go make a trade, it's hard to imagine.

652
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: And look, it was just last year they traded for

653
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Mari So yeah, anything's possible. But it doesn't seem like

654
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: they have a need that's so desperate that they can't

655
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: wait unless somebody got hurt. But maybe they could offload

656
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: some talent if somebody else is desperate. You know, this

657
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: is a team with a lot of good offensive linemen.

658
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do it, but they got a

659
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of good cornerbacks too. I mean, Jordan Lewis has

660
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: played so well. If somebody offered you something, I mean,

661
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: what would what would somebody have to offer you for

662
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: you to be like, okay, Jordan les third or higher. Yeah,

663
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: I agree what he was otherwise otherwise I feel like

664
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: i'd rather just And I'm even kind of no, I'm

665
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: a little if you on the third, just because I

666
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: am through the roof with how good he looks. And

667
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: when you think about the fact that Byron's not under contract,

668
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown's then under contract, I don't really like the

669
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: idea of getting rid of him, but somebody gets desperate

670
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: and really wants him. Yeah, you always have to consider

671
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: these things. It would have to give me a second, right,

672
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: anything less, I kind of think I'm with you, I'll

673
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: change mind. I think I would go to second just because,

674
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: like again, you can never have enough good cornerbacks. We've

675
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: seen seasons where it starts off where you got cornerbacks

676
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden a rash of injuries and

677
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: then your your strap. Okay, so so what if it

678
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: was for um, Anthony Brown, a third round pick for Anthony,

679
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be more open to that. So that

680
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: being said, then then where we're moving to the future here,

681
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: when Brown's contract is going to be up here, I

682
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: think you just say, hey, great pick, sixth round, good

683
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: luck to you. Move on, right, Because if you're not

684
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: taking anything better than a second or third for Jordan Lewis,

685
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: then he's your third quarterback cornerback next year, no doubt

686
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: about it. You can hopefully you get a comp pick

687
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: of some time, some type for Anthony Brown if he

688
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: doesn't resign here. It might not be a third, it

689
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: would have I can't imagine him signing that big of

690
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: a contract. But maybe a fifth yeah, yeah, extra fifth

691
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: round pick, but it would have to be something that

692
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: blew my socks off for any of them. I like, yeah,

693
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: I like the again right now, cornerback. I wouldn't mess

694
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: with that. We have. We've already discussed the possibility of

695
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: trading Taco. I don't think you would get a big

696
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: price for him, but that's just about clear him spot.

697
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: No for sure, No, it could happen. It sounds it

698
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: doesn't look like they're like obviously to make him a

699
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: healthy scratch. And when Robert Quinn comes back to me,

700
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: he's the one that has the bulls eye. And if

701
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: you can get a six or seventh round pick for

702
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: a guy that just doesn't seem like he just fits

703
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: for you, then why not. The Patriots got a sixth

704
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: round pick for a guy that they had already cut,

705
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: like they cut to Marius Thomas. They're like, okay, we'll

706
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: bring you back. You're a vested veteran. And then they

707
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: got a sixth round pick for it a week later,

708
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: so that would be nice. Yeah, all right, let's take

709
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: a call from Trey in Mississippi. Tray, what up? Hey,

710
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: how you guys doing today. I'm glad to be back

711
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: listening to the award winning Cowboys break. So I see

712
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: a lot of fans kind of down about tony apology usage,

713
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: and I think that they're saving that package or his

714
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: package until we really need it. They're going to see

715
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: how far we can get with just running what we're

716
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: running and try to save some of those wrinkles because

717
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: it's marathon, not a spraint, of course. And I kind

718
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: of feel the same about the D line. We didn't

719
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: get a lot of pressure last week, but correct me

720
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. It seemed like as we got our

721
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: handle on the game, they kind of went a little

722
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: more Vanua and we're kind of just like, you beat

723
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: your man, you beat your man. We'll save these exotic

724
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: blitzes until we need them. Played her own in the season,

725
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: so we don't put all this on tape so far,

726
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: I'd just like to hear what you guys think about that.

727
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: Hoping for a good win against Washington this league. All right,

728
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I'll take the Pollard stuff. I mean,

729
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, the first drive of the game was three

730
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: and out maybe or they had to punt, and then

731
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they scored five in a row,

732
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: and after that the whole game's difference thirty five to ten.

733
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: And I mean, so what point. I just don't understand

734
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: the Pollard stuff. I mean, that's just like, oh, man,

735
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: I wanted everything to be perfect because there really wasn't

736
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: opportunities to kind of show that stuff. You didn't need it.

737
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: You scored five touchdowns in a row, and when he

738
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: did get in the game differently, they were running it

739
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: up the middle and that's not his game, especially with

740
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: some of the guys you know, backing up. So I

741
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't Yeah, that may be saving it,

742
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: but just at what point did they, like, man, why

743
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: isn't Pollard involved? I mean, they did anything they wanted

744
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: to do. Well. I didn't take the impression that at

745
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: the call I was saying that the fans I got

746
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: the fan. Yeah, whoever is Yeah, he said people were

747
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: upset that Pollard didn't get used more. That's kind of irrelevant,

748
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, I agree. I kind of agree with him though,

749
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: that that maybe there's more that they want to do

750
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: with him that they didn't necessarily need to do in

751
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: this game. Um, And also they were having it they

752
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: were really trying to, you know, not overuse Zeke as well.

753
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: So he probably got a lot more reps at running

754
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: back than he will get. I would assume as we're

755
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: five six weeks into the season, barring an injury, he's

756
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna get maybe half that number of reps at running back,

757
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I would guess, right, would you guys agree with that? Zeke? Yeah? No, no, Pollard, Like,

758
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: they won't be splitting carries. It won't be thirteen and thirteen, right, No,

759
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: So so there's other things. I would assume that they're

760
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: going to other ways that they will work him into

761
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: the games. And I assume there are more of those

762
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: kinds of things that are to come down the road.

763
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: I would hope, And I just said, I mean, if

764
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: he was healthy, I think Tavon would do more of

765
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: that stuff right now, but hopefully it will incrementally increase

766
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: as he gets more more comfortable. Um, I mean, I

767
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: hate to disappoint the collar. Like Rod, Marinelli has never

768
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: been known for exotic blitzes. I mean maybe, I mean

769
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Layton vander Escher gunna blitz from time

770
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: to time. I don't think he's saving any This isn't

771
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: Rob Ryan where people are blitzing from eight different spots.

772
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's never been Rod's thing. But I do,

773
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: like I said, I think you get to thirty five

774
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: ten in the second half and you're like, all right,

775
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: we're basically sort of going to play prevent and just

776
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: make sure we're not giving up sixtyr plays and the

777
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: stats are skewed because of that. It's not an excuse.

778
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: They do need to play better. They allowed way too

779
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: much to their run. But yeah, like, I don't think

780
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: that we're trying to save anything. I don't think you

781
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: go into a game with all your plays they're lined

782
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: up and thinking, oh, no, well we're gonna save this

783
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: for well, no, not going into the game. But once

784
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: you take a thirty five to ten lead in the

785
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: third quarter, you're not gonna be You're just not going

786
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: to play the game the same way what I mean

787
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: at that point, you're basically done what you were gonna do.

788
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I will say this though after the game,

789
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: when when the media was interviewing Kellen Moore, um, he

790
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: actually did say that. He said, you know, there were

791
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: some things that we didn't have to show today that

792
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: we ended up being able to say for for later. Yeah. Right.

793
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: But my point, my point is just there there's schematic

794
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: things that that maybe they didn't have to show because

795
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: they were able to use a certain part of their

796
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: playbook and and still be able to get success. And

797
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: it didn't make them have to go through every it

798
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: didn't make him have to show everything that they're able

799
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: to do. And that's just the nature of how you

800
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: organize these games, like it's all based upon the matchup.

801
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: You go into a game of a matchup, your playbook

802
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: may be a big, huge book and you may take

803
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: you know, a quarter of that and say, we think, schematically,

804
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: based on what we see this defense doing, these are

805
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: the kind of plays that we think we're going to

806
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: be using and what we're going to do to try

807
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: to affect them, and the rest of our playbook. We

808
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: know what our players know, what we can use it

809
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: if we need to, but we don't think that's probably

810
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: going to be a part of this particular game plan.

811
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: I wish I and it would it would never happen

812
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: like in the media, like m Moore, it's never gonna

813
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: let me report on that, But like I would love

814
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: to get a detailed understanding of the way that all works,

815
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: because he, like I fans don't understand it. I definitely

816
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: don't understand the whole thing. But like Kellen Moore said

817
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: something on Sunday that really struck me, where he was like, yeah,

818
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: that play was one of our openers. You know, we

819
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: designated it as something for the opening of the game,

820
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: and we didn't get to it until like the third quarter.

821
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, that's fascinating that, like you're making

822
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: these decisions just based on the looks you're seeing on

823
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: the field, and and ninety nine point nine percent of

824
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: us really can't even grasp that completely. You know. I

825
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: wish I would love to talk to him for like

826
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: five hours about how all that works. Yeah, but again,

827
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: like why would he put that in the media. They

828
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: would let us do that, But that would be a

829
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: great it would be a great, great video just to

830
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: be able to dive a little deeper into how that

831
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: all works. Yeah, I would be fascinated by it as well.

832
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate you Jonas. We're back tomorrow. We'll

833
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: get you guys ready for this game. We're gonna tell

834
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: you who's gonna win. Nick will give you his predictions

835
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: for the game. Dave will tell you what the score

836
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: is going to be in Amber will I don't know,

837
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Maybe do both? How about that? Just sitting Here's tomorrow

838
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: gonna be your first one where you pick both teams

839
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: or you're gonna wait and do that. I've never done

840
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: that before. Okay, I just don't like choosing a score.

841
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: I must be misremembering. I feel like I feel like

842
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: she picked both teams to win at least once. Last year.

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Speaker 1: We all picked the Giants last week, right, Yeah, that'll

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Speaker 1: be the question. Tomorrow. We'll get a foursome that will

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Speaker 1: pick the Redskins. Let me pick the Cowboys over the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: That'll be nobody picked the Giants, so you said no,

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Speaker 1: we all got I'm sorry, we all picked the Cowboys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: last year with the yes. So we'll be interesting tomorrow

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Speaker 1: to see if we get anybody to jump off picking

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Speaker 1: the Redskins to win the game. You didn't have to

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Speaker 1: say that, you give it away. I mean it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty obvious. I don't think anybody here

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks are bad. Bad. Everything me look at defense isn't bad.

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Speaker 1: I apprecate you join us from back tomorrow till then

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Speaker 1: for Nick even Dave Helmett, amber Garcia. I'm Derek Yields

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