WEBVTT - Learning the Hard Way with Meghan Trainor 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:07.440 Hi, Catherine. Oh hello Chelsea. How are you? I have 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.200 to tell you something? Actually, don't answer that. I have 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.640 had a lot of people come up to me on planes. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:20.720 I'm not joking referencing my disgust for bare feet and 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.400 the hard boiled egg thing. There was a woman, a 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.680 flight attendant who was like, I can't believe that you 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.320 allow the woman that co hosts the podcast with you 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.800 to continue on after what she said about traveling with 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.760 hard boiled eggs in a ziplock bag. She thought I 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:41.879 should cut ties with you. That's how serious of an offense. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.720 Somebody who flies through the air for a living takes 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.320 your hard boiled eggs. Just so you know, it's basically 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.720 what you've been doing, this assaulting people. I know you 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.200 know what I Actually someone wrote in to our email 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.279 and she basically said she was like, I was awoken 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.880 from a nap by the smell of hard boiled eggs 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.280 on a plane, and I thought, of you. I thought 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.679 there can't be someone else's bringing hard boiled eggs on 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.360 a plane, but sure enough, there she was. But she 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:10.959 like said it in a way that was like, but 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.440 I love you, I I can't even look at hard 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.600 boiled eggs the same. Like now, if I see there 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.880 was like a there's We were at some studio and 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.520 there was all these snacks and I was trying to 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.440 eat healthy and I was like, I don't want this. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.120 I don't want that. And there's a hard boiled egg 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.759 and I was like, I'm like, if I were mad 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.680 at you, I would be eating you. But I am. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.720 I'm still not over it. So well, you know what, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.800 I have at least changed one part of my life. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.520 I think I'm committed to using ricotta and my lasagna 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.960 from now on. Yeah. I think that was also a 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.720 major misfire to Thank god MATEO set you straight. Thank 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.560 god he said someone straight, you know what I mean, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.280 because he's not setting a lot of people straight. He 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.440 would make if I were a guy, I would want 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.000 to have sex with him me too, you know what 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.400 I mean. There's a woman I want to have sex. Yeah, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.280 it's you don't have atracted to him? Actually yeah he 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:05.000 had else. Well, I have a follow up, a very 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:09.480 important follow up from a recent caller. So we remember 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.120 Sandra who called in on our Caller Daddy episode just 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.560 last week, and she was going to Thailand with the 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.200 boyfriend who had been like hiring escorts. But it was 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.519 before they were together, so you know we talked to 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.880 her about right, but oh yeah, yeah, yeah, escorts, right, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:31.200 I remember this, Yes, so Sandra says, Hi, Chelsea, I 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.440 just wanted to follow up after our call with some 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.680 updates or I guess just the one. I'm continuing to 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.120 work with my therapist on my trust issues and keep 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.359 all of your voices in my head that I cannot 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.120 look at his things if I want a real and 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.120 healthy relationship. And I expressed to him how his past 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.440 made me feel insecure. But I will work on that 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.920 and work on my trust. I went on the trip 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.480 to Thailand, and something felt off the entire time. He 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.000 had started smoking weed again, even though he was sober, 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.840 and the trip was hard because there was a major disconnect, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.040 sinking feeling that he was not telling me something. It 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.200 turns out he was indeed cheating on me, going to 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.160 erotic massage parlors before I got there, and even while 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:15.359 I was there. Yeah, he did not tell me willingly. Yes, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.760 it's because I found his Google map history going to 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.200 these locations. I believe he would never have told me 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.600 the truth if I had not found that history. So 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.200 she snooped again and found out. Yeah, well, if you're 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.600 snooping and you do find something, you can't argue with 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.120 that because that's exactly what you were looking for. So 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.280 I'm sorry that that happens to you. And I guess, so, snoop, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.960 if you ever really strong, like, what's our what's our messaging? Here? 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.040 I dated a guy who looked through my ship and 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.960 I'm not up to anything, and sure enough, whatever he 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.600 found he made into something that was nothing. And anyone 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.920 who listens to this podcast knows that I'm not a 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.320 person that would even I would never do that. I 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.280 don't have the energy for one relationship, never mind fucking two. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.280 So that's where I've come from on that philosophy of 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.960 phone checking. I've also been the girl that does that, 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.400 as we discussed it during that episode, and I didn't 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.960 like the way that felt either. But listen, I guess 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.160 I don't know what to say about it, because women 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.080 are just gonna fucking keep checking people's phones and men 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.560 who are paranoid, and we'll not just paranoid, but you 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.040 know they're going to do it too, I guess. And 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.680 you know she goes on to say like she knows 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.360 that she has some issues to work through with that. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.440 But I would also argue that you're attracting people that 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.760 are like this, and that's the bigger issue. You knew 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.440 deep within that this was the wrong person before you 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.440 found that out. No, but I agree, you know, it's 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.599 like she continues to say, like she's got some stuff 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.320 to work on, She's going to keep working on that. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.000 She's glad in this instance she did. But she hopes 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.239 to find somebody who like she doesn't have to feel 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.440 like and that's it with that guy, Like, no, no 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:55.159 more anything, sandals all done? What's gross? Pre Just don't cheat. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.840 Just break up. Don't cheat, you're not married. Why are 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.120 you cheating? Exactly? Just break up and go be with 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.760 the other fucking go be with the tie massus is. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.800 If that's what you want to be with, exactly, you 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.960 get married and then you cheap. That's everyone knows. That's 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.080 how it goes. Yeah. Okay, So our guest today is 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.960 a singer. She has a very big song out that 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.520 everyone is trying to dance too well. Most people are 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.760 doing it effectively. I'm pretty much the only one who 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.520 can't do this dance. Her song is called made You 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.760 Look This was her fourth studio album, and she just 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.039 launched the second season of her podcast, which is called 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.840 Working on It, which she co hosts with her brother 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.799 Ryan Trainer. So please welcome Megan Trainer. Hi, Megan Trainer. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.480 Oh so exciting and in person meet and greet in Paris, 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.960 and look at I'm on the show. I know exist Guiding. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.040 I mean, we've of course met before a couple of times. Yeah, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:48.120 this is Catherine, our producer. Hi. How are you? Thanks 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.360 ting me? Oh my god, thanks. I love you, Megan Trainer. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.640 I'm so happy for your success that you're having right now. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.480 I mean, I think the last time we saw each 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.200 other we talked about the music industry a little bit, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.080 and I remember you're telling me something like, even though 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.440 you can be really well known, you sometimes don't feel 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.200 like you're in the mix. You said something along those lines, Well, yeah, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.880 I never feel famous, and like I don't feel like 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.080 I keep I feel like I always have to keep 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.680 proving myself. And it's been almost like ten years and 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.080 I'm like, I don't know that. Yeah, it is hard. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.520 I think a lot of people probably feel that way. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.160 And I think, just like a hard critic on myself 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.800 to get my parents. Yeah, like in what way it's 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.200 Give me an example, Like when I was writing this 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.520 new album, every song I had, I would I would 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.800 approach it I gotta be better at my self talk 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.160 and self love, but I would play like made you 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.720 look this big hit. I sang it to my brother 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.880 and my older brother and was like is this trash? 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.359 Like is this terrible? Or is this good? You know, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.920 instead of being like I've had this idea, you know, 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.400 I start right away with like I think I stuck 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.160 it writing. And if you don't have like a radio 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.520 hit for a long time, you can get in your 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.200 head of like, well it must be me. I think 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.400 I'm trash you know. Yeah, absolutely, I can totally relate 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.039 to that feel. You have to always make yourself relevant, 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.119 which is a lame way to describe its. Ever, and 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.919 you're only as good as like, you know, when you 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.280 have success, it's like it dims so quickly. You're like that. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.080 So it's it's nice to be back in the spotlight. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.760 I know, I know, as you could and you could 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.160 actually dance for a white woman like you have. I 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.480 mean this is coming from someone Listen. I tried to 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.280 fucking rehearse that song. On the road. I was on 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.640 a tour with my opener, my security guard and then 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.400 another one of us. I'm so uncoordinated and I don't 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.560 have any rhythm. It's I'm cursed with some Jewish disease 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.960 that I have. That's song. When I saw it, I 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.760 was like, that's what I could do. I could do that. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.080 I could do that dance. And we tried several times 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.920 and then finally it became sad. No, that took me 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.080 three days to learn. Three days three d Yeah, but 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.000 when you do it, you can move things like I 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.560 now I got it, Like, yeah, you have Yeah. I 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.400 always wanted to dance, but I was a girl in 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.840 middle school, like at the school dances, that was like 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.800 sitting by myself in the corner, like I can't go 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.920 on dance and runt of people, you know, really, And 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.040 then in high school you could like drink a little bit, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.320 and then you're like drinking. There's always somebody said drink. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.119 But I took like three weeks off of drinking recently 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.000 because I was hosting the Critics Choice Awards and by 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.320 the way, oh, thank you, thank you, and then my 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.160 publicist goes, Chelsea, you should know alcoholics because maybe you 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.080 should just stick with it. I was like, go fund yourself. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:30.560 I'm not. Alcohol is my support system. It is my buddy. Now, okay, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.200 your life has changed a lot in the last couple 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.160 of years because you had a baby, the cutest little baby. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.440 Oh my god, he's adorable. Tell me about that, that 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.880 kind of change in your life with your husband. Well, 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.640 how long have you been married now? What does he 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.600 say behind you? Four years? Four years? And when did 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.680 you have your baby? When do we have the baby? 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.920 He's almost two, he's almost two in Februarian. So you've 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.160 got a real handle on things that are happening. I'm 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.719 peeking and I'm diving. And tell me about how that's 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.160 changed your life. Becoming a white I'm becoming a mom 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.560 just the best. Yeah, it's so. It's I was one 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.559 of those like I've always wanted to. I had baby 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.760 dolls instead of Barbie dolls. I had babies when I 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.320 was young, and I was like, I will be a 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.400 mother of twelve, you know, that was my goal. And 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.760 my mom had three of us. I'm one of three, 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.640 so I know I want a bunch of kids. I 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.760 know I want like four. I'm gonna try for four. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.760 But that sounds loud, you know, but it's it's been 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.800 the best. And I always thought that I would settle 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.640 for some loser and like fix him later. But I 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.080 got me a man's who like massages my feet and 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.320 takes care of me and like worships the ground I 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.400 step on. And I didn't know that existed, you know, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.400 but it exists. He's still like opens every door I 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.960 walked through and like carries my gallon of water for 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:50.160 me and makes me breakfast. I got so lucky. That's awesome. One. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.679 It feels like you win when you fall in love, right, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.640 like like, oh my god, I get this too, on 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.400 top of everything else, right like, I get this lucky. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.280 Something's going on, you know. That's where we're at in life. Now. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.160 Where is that accent from? That's like underneath, No, we're 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.480 I don't know, I'm Massachusetts. Like my bros. They're like, oh, bro, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.599 Like we talked like this. You know. It's like we 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.280 go to Long Island, but we don't. It's very much. Um, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.520 nobody actually knows it. But it's Nick Kroll on his 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.120 TV show that he had back in the day, The 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.120 Croll Show. It was our favorite thing to watch and 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.320 he had a skit with They were like, these brawls 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.520 that sound like my brothers when they talk, and they're like, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.760 let's bounce. These gals brawl. So we talk like that 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.200 a lot. I don't have sisters. Oh you don't. You 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.120 have two brothers and you're the are you the youngest 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.560 in the middle middle? So I was attacked by either side. Yeah, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.319 but your one brother lives out here to do both. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:48.040 They both live in my house. One just turned thirty 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.960 ones about turn and I'll never let them leave. That's 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.080 really funny. I had my brother lived in my house 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.120 and he did leave because I had to tell him 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.560 to get out. He lived with me for about he 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.160 was Roy. He lives with me for a while. Then 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.880 one morning I walked in my kitchen and this girl 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.680 was like, can we get can we take a picture? 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.400 Came out of his bedroom and I'm in my bathrobe 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.080 and I was like, hey, Roy, this is so inappropriate, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.680 and he's like what, I go, if you're bringing people home, 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.560 like you have to make sure that, hey, they're not 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.120 coming home to meet me, I can't be the thing. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.200 And he goes, well, whatever I have to do to 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.680 get him there, And then I was like Oh. I 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.480 was like, Roy, you got to get out of here. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.400 I only had like a few of those where my 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.920 brother would bring home thoughts when he was drinking um 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.360 and he'd be like, who's this um? And they like 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.240 one girl took a video of the entire backyard and 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.720 then tagged me, and I was like, she's dead to us, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.840 and he was like, yeah, she's dead to us. But 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.160 he's good at he only brings home girls now that 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.160 he knows will be cool kind of. And my younger 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.400 brother just learned that less in the hard way. He 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.920 started dating online and the girls would say, I'm a musician, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.720 and I was like, uh, like, it's not gonna work. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.360 And he was like, well, I told her I'd bring 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.360 her to the studio and this is my basement in 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.079 my house. I have a child. And he had to 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.840 understand why that was wrong. So I had to teach 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.640 them some stuff. But now my younger brother's dating a 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.720 great girl and my older brother is still single. As followed, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.360 we can try and pimp him out a little later. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.079 So and your mom were really tight. I remember meeting 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.040 her a couple of times when I've met you before. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.280 Is she really involved in your career. Yeah, she would 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.800 have come today. She packed my lunch and she's my assistant. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.319 She would have come today, but it's a tight room. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.560 So she was like, I'll stay back, and I was like, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.360 thanks for your sacrifice. She's just so lovely and so 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.040 selfless and is the best person. And I don't I 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.320 never liked having an assistant that was like a different 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.440 person or I would like fall in love with them 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.080 and make them my best friend forever. And for my mom, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.400 it's just she did all that stuff anyways, you know, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.679 she always took care of me. Anyways. I was like, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.559 it's kind of like an assistant is your mother in anyways, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:50.960 my housekeepers like my mom or nanny. She's my name. Yeah, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.079 it's nice that you have your family so close by, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.440 because so how old were you when you moved out here, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:02.760 like eighteen nineteen and was just so intimidating and scary. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.200 I lived in Nashville for a year and I wrote 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.840 all about that base there, and then at exactly a year, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.480 they were like, hey, you have to move out of 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.360 Nashville and go to l A. And and I would 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.559 come out here like when I was eighteen for a 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.439 little weeks at a time for songwriting trips and I'd 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.400 stay at a hotel. That stuff was scary for sure, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:28.240 which there's like a community like I wish I was there. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.880 I was in the motails, I was in the spooky 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.320 places are like Airbnb is that I shouldn't have been in. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.040 But I had like an older friend who could drink 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.840 and I was under age, so we would walk to 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.199 a liquor store and she would get it and there's 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.160 like a guy just as the joker. And I was like, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:43.840 this is where I'm gonna die, Like this is having 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.320 to die in l A And nineteen years old, I 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:47.839 called my mom. I was like, this is it. I'm 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:52.160 about to get married. But I lived. And how was 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.439 your entree into the music industry, Like what was your 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.559 first big First of all, are you still with the 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.160 same label that you were when you are? Oh that's 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.880 a success story. Well you're trapped, you know what I mean? 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:07.960 Love them though they're great, They're so great. I love them, 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.520 but I'm on my have five albums, so I'm like 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.240 about to start my fifth one eventually, you know. So 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.480 I got one mower with them, and Christmas don't count. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.080 It doesn't count. But yeah, they're they're great. And I 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.520 when I wrote Base, like l a Read was at 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.520 the I was at Epic Records at the time, and 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.320 he signed me and was like this is gonna be huge, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.960 and I was like and I was like a baby songwriter. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.040 And when people signed me as a songwriter, I took 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.360 that as like I was insecure about my looks and 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.240 I was like, okay, that confirmed it. They think I 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.360 should be behind the scenes, like writing songs for the 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.040 pop stars. And then when l a Read saw me 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.080 and was like, well, I need whoever singing this song 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.240 to just sing the song. And I was like hello, 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.320 and he was like that face he said that to me. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.520 I was like this face was like yeah. I was 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.680 like okay, and then I just like held on type 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.240 for dear life and was like I've always wanted to 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:58.760 be a pop star, but I didn't know anyone would 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.360 believe in me, and I just held on and faked 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.040 it till I made it. You know, Wow, how great 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.160 of a story is that? Every day I'm like, well, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.280 funk am I doing here? Everybody feels that way too. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.400 I'm like, who's confident? People are always going to be 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.560 You're so confident. I'm like if I'm so confident. I 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.400 don't feel that confident. I just you know. They're like, yeah, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.480 they're like, you write these anthems, you're so calm, like 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.640 they're for me, is like my therapy, like a girl. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.640 And how do you know when a song is going 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.320 to hit? Like, like when do you find out that 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.040 a song is? How long does it take before you 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.160 know that it's gonna skyrocket the way it has? For 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.880 this last song, your most recent I always asked because 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.640 I was signed to a company that had big country writers, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.080 and I always asked them like, how do you know 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.440 it's a hit, And they're like, oh, you never know. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.680 Like I thought Bass was my least best song out 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.040 of everything. I was like, the all of the base one, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.720 that's the one they like. My parents were like this 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.600 song out of all the other pop songs you have, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.040 but that one. I remember the music video came out 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.720 and I was so embarrassed in my high school friends 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.680 would see me like in address because I wear all 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.680 black and I'm like in hoodies, and I was like, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.800 oh my god, they're gonna make fun of me. And 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.000 then when it hit twenty thousand views, I was like, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.440 well that was fast and then it's started to get 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.800 up to a million and I was like, oh, like 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.360 a million people have seen this, and then Justin Bieber 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.600 did a remix of it, and I called my brother 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.240 who was in Florida and college, and I was like, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.440 you gotta drop out, bro, Like it's over. We gotta 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.720 move to l A like we're so famous now, Bro, 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:30.120 it's done. But like nowadays, with TikTok, this song made 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.080 you look. We were looking at the numbers of how 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.080 many people made a video to that song, and once 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.000 it got to like a hundred thousand remakes, were like, oh, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.440 we got something. And then now it's at like millions. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.840 What is it? Pepe? He'll tell you behind if you 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:50.040 ask three point four three people people have made a 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.880 video to that song, Oh my god. And so we're 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:59.040 like you, that's when you're good, when you're peeking on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.480 that's good. Well, con aratulations on that success fun for you, right, 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.040 and you so deserve it because you're so normal. I 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.800 like that about you. Everyone says that about you. I mean, well, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.760 not everybody, but the people we have in common. Whenever 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.919 I say something about you, know how much I like you. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.240 Everyone's like she's just so normal and down to earth, 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.919 and you know you are. You're a good girl. So 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.440 on this podcast. Okay, get ready, Megan, this is where 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.000 your life skills are going to come into play. Okay. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.040 People are calling and they're some people are fucked up 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.720 and then help and we need to give it to them, right, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.560 and this is the way we give back charity. I 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:38.040 love this. Yes, yes, I actually did pick some especially 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.080 funked up ones for you, Megan, because I know you're 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.720 like honest and real and so I'm honest and really 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.320 I'll tell you about my anal fishes. I'll do anything 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:53.199 fisher an fisher currently yeah, yeah, I didn't know if 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:54.880 you said fish. I didn't know if that was something. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.520 I didn't know about an anal fish. It's a slice 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.200 of myne. I recently had somebody telling me about their 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.000 anal fissure. It's a thing. Yeah, And I didn't know 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.960 the thing until I have a lot of game managers 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.719 and they were like, girl, let me tell you. And 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.400 I was like, right, this thing is crazy. From having 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.800 a baby, I guess so, but I didn't push out mine. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.400 I got c section. No, I think it's my hard 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.280 poops and I asked a doctor and she was like, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.000 I was like, I eat really clean, Like I'm healthier 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.560 than ever. I drank a gown of water. She's like, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.960 I wish it was as simple as change your diet. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.199 She's like, some people just have hard poops and have 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:29.879 to live off a mirror lax and so I'm a 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.960 mirror lax bitch. Now really, yeah, nothing works for you 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.639 to go to the bathroom. It makes it soft unless 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.399 I have like burning Indian hot food. You know, have 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.680 you ever tried magnesium? Oh? Three? Do you know what? 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.120 I used? The pop magnesium. I'll try that when three 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.840 is like a game changer for me. Magnesium And everyone's 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.159 like I've heard that lately. It's like if you do 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.199 four of those a night. I did this once on 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.119 Instagram and I can't tell you how many people are like, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.440 you don't understand. You changed my poop game. And actually 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.320 I only used it for a period of time and 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.240 I don't you it anymore and it's still working. Okay, 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.399