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Speaker 1: to tell you something? Actually, don't answer that. I have

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Speaker 1: what you've been doing, this assaulting people. I know you

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Speaker 1: know what I Actually someone wrote in to our email

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Speaker 1: was like a there's We were at some studio and

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Speaker 1: because he's not setting a lot of people straight. He

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Speaker 1: Oh so exciting and in person meet and greet in Paris,

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Speaker 1: and look at I'm on the show. I know exist Guiding.

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Speaker 1: an understatement. He got drunk to the point of being

424
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: cut off from the bar and was yelling profanities to

425
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 1: our friend and several bridesmaids, calling them bitches, among other things.

426
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: At all. I also learned that this is not the

427
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 1: first time he's behaved like this during a night out.

428
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 1: My friend ended the night in tears, embarrassed over her

429
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: boyfriend's behavior and swears he is the nicest guy until

430
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: he drinks too much. She sees it as an innocent mistake,

431
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: but I see it as a consistent pattern of abuse

432
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 1: when he drinks. My fiance and mom have both told

433
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: me that I should uninvite him to our wedding if

434
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 1: there's a risk of him becoming angry over drinking or

435
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 1: picking fights with other guests. I do agree with them,

436
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: but I also think it could be possible for him

437
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: to clean up his act before our wedding next summer.

438
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: How do I bring up my concerns about his behavior

439
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: to my friend with damaging our years long friendship? Sincerely, Anne, Hi, Hi, Anne, Hi?

440
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: How are you guys? This is our special guest, Megan

441
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: Trainers here today. Oh my gosh, Hi Megan. Okay, So

442
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: is that the first time you've seen him act like that?

443
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: That's actually the first time I've ever met him, So Yeah,

444
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: that's the first time I've seen him act like that,

445
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: and according to my other friends who actually live in

446
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: the same city as her, this is like common, so

447
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: that made me super uncomfortable. And are you going to

448
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: see him at all before the wedding? Are do you? Guys?

449
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: The only trip that I will is if I visit

450
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: my hometown, or maybe he'll come to like another friend's

451
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: wedding that's before mine. There's like a ton of us

452
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: getting married all within the next year, so it's possible,

453
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: but I don't usually like see this group of friends

454
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: unless we all get together in a big group, so

455
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,719
Speaker 1: most likely not. I feel like you can't judge somebody

456
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: on one interaction, of matter what anyone else is telling you.

457
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: If it happens twice, you absolutely have carte blanche to

458
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: be like, No, I've seen him twice and he's a

459
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: hot mess two times, but on one interaction. I just

460
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: really don't think it's fair to judge somebody because anybody

461
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: could be having the worst situation. I know you've heard

462
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: that he acted like that, but you didn't witness it yourself. Yeah, totally.

463
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: You've heard that he's done that multiple times. Yeah, Like

464
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: there was one of my friends who was also at

465
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: the wedding. She said, oh, yeah, there was another time

466
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: where we were out and unprovoked, he just called me ugly,

467
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: like out of the blue. He was like, you're really

468
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: effing ugly. So it's just like things like that that.

469
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want any negative energy. I want

470
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: to be called ugly at your wedding. Why why not?

471
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't want my friends to be called ugly at

472
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: my wedding. I don't care. I don't care what he

473
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: thinks about me. Well, I mean, you can always have

474
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: him removed from the wedding if he acts like an asshole,

475
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: I mean calling women bitches? Is I have more of

476
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: a problem with that than him being drunk, you know

477
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like that's kind of the grossest s

478
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: part because there were other like a lot of the boyfriends,

479
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: to be unfair, like a lot of them were drinking heavily.

480
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: So but I can forgive stupid behavior. It's when you're

481
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: being an absolute asshole to women and like being disrespectful

482
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: that made me really uncomfortable. And then my friend was

483
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: in tears on the shuttle ride home because she was like,

484
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: he always does this, and then he says he's gonna stop,

485
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: and then it happens again like months later. So it

486
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: was like coming from her first hand, that's what made

487
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: me like, really sad, Okay, I think dude's got a problem. Yeah,

488
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: when you can't control your booze like that multiple times,

489
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: there's an issue. Also, I just want you to know

490
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: I got married, I did all that, and it was like,

491
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: who do I invite? Who do I'm not I'm gonna

492
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: make I'm gonna hurt people, funk all that. This is

493
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: your wedding. If you hear another incident happens, you're allowed

494
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: the day before to be like that's okay, I would

495
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't want him to come because I heard of that.

496
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: You know you can keep him invited this whole time,

497
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: and if you hear one more thing, I say, buck it,

498
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: your wedding, your rules. Who cares? Why any wants to bailings? Yeah,

499
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: I know. That's one of the hardest things I've had

500
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: with planning a wedding is making sure that I don't

501
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: kiss other people, not kiss other people off. But I'm

502
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: a people blazer. I want my parents to be happy,

503
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: friends to be happy. I want to have a good time,

504
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: so that's been a challenge to navigate with such a

505
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: big guest list, and I wish we could just nukea

506
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: and alope, it'll make you crazy. I had like a

507
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: hundred people because it was my backyard and I couldn't

508
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: fit that many people. So I had to say no

509
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: to a lot of people. And I'll tell you what,

510
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: nobody was mad or they didn't tell me to my face.

511
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: So in my head, I'm like, we slayd that. But

512
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: I let you know, I cut so many people off. Yeah,

513
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: you can't really say to anyone, well, I mean if

514
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: it's your friend, but you can't really say why didn't

515
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: you invite me to your wedding? Yeah, someone someone didn't

516
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: say that to me, and I was like, I've said that.

517
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: I got over it, So what are you thinking now?

518
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: After talk you to ask what do you think? I mean?

519
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: When this first happened, I was very in the mind

520
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: of like because my fiance actually couldn't come to this wedding.

521
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: So I was telling him all about it the next day.

522
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: And he has a problematic friend who we actually who's

523
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: like a way closer friend that we decided not to

524
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: invite because of his behavior. So he was like, well,

525
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, we've decided to nix this person. This guy

526
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: was being really rude to like all your friends. I

527
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: think we should cut him off. So at first I'm like, Okay,

528
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. After letting the dust settle,

529
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I just want to

530
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: let it ride and just hope for the best. So

531
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I was at even before this call.

532
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: I think that's maybe where I'm at. Just letting him come, Yeah,

533
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I need have till summer, right, And you can also

534
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: if he is an asshole at the wedding. I mean,

535
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: obviously this isn't an ideal situation, but you can have

536
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: him removed. Then you don't have to have the conversation

537
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: with her ever, because that happened. Yeah, And I think

538
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: if you do decide to let him come and like

539
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: not disinvite him, I think you need to make this

540
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: someone else's assignment so it doesn't become your problem. So

541
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: maybe there's a couple of really good guy friends who

542
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: are like, look, we all know how he acted at

543
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: SO and So's wedding. I need you two guys. If

544
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: he's getting belligerent, tell whoever needs to be told to

545
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: kick him out of the wedding, but don't let it

546
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: be like people are coming to you being like, hey,

547
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: somebody's being an asshole. Pre empt it. But I also

548
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of emotion coming up for

549
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: you with this, and you might be sort of peeking

550
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: out of the corner of your eye at what's going

551
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: to happen. If you feel like you want to disinvite him,

552
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: you can. These girls are right, it is your wedding,

553
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: and then just send this to that friend. I was

554
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: like having my fingers crossed that my friends aren't listening

555
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: to this because I don't want to put two and

556
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: two together. Well, somebody that you know will hear this

557
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: and put two and two together. So there's no right. Okay,

558
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: we're using a pseudony, but so you have all conflicting advice. Sorry,

559
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: we suck. No, that's good. We have different perspectives. I

560
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be a big deal, but

561
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: I do think if he does something again before you know,

562
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: if you hear that, you I think you have to

563
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: witness it yourself. Everyone telling you information it's never accurate,

564
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: and I'm sure your friends aren't lying to you. But

565
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: I'm just like it's not fair to based on hearsay

566
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: say that. I would say it's fair based on him

567
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: calling women bitches for you to go, uh, sorry, but

568
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: your boyfriend was calling women bitches. If you want to

569
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: have the conversation, that's the opener. Yeah, And is there

570
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: a way you could talk to your friend and be like, hey,

571
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: maybe you guys have an agreement for my wedding that

572
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: he just doesn't drink. Maybe he can have an edible

573
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: beforehand or whatever, but maybe this isn't so. The day after,

574
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: he actually did text me and a bunch of our

575
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: other friends, and you could tell that. It was like

576
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: my friend told him the next day, like, you did this,

577
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: you need to apologize. So I never responded because I

578
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: was gonna like, actually wait to see what you guys

579
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: said and like think on it some more. But I

580
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: think maybe responding to that might be a good way

581
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: to open the conversation and engage how they're feeling. A

582
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: couple of months after the fact, what was the text

583
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: that he sent. It was basically like, Oh, I'm I

584
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to let you know I'm really sorry for

585
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: the way I acted last night. I know that was

586
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: like not a good impression, just stuff like that, and

587
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: then saying that he loves my friend more than anything

588
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: in the world, and like he didn't mean to hurt

589
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: our feelings, but it wasn't owning what he did. It

590
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: was just more it came off for as like my

591
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: girlfriend told me to apologize, but he was honestly so

592
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: drunk that I don't think he remembers doing. Yeah, maybe

593
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: there's a conversation there, even directly with him and also

594
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: maybe separately with your friend of like, hey, you know

595
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: how much I love her. I'm so excited to have

596
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: her at my wedding. And I know you guys are

597
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: a couple of we want you to be there too.

598
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the time that you, like, don't drink

599
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: if you want to do me a solid. I would

600
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Yeah, I think that's a good a

601
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: good point. And then you know, I still have your

602
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: friends keep an eye on him. Yeah. I like that

603
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: idea too. I thought a lot. And then I don't.

604
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully I don't have to hear about it exactly exactly.

605
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let us know what happens, and good luck. Okay,

606
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: thank you guys, it was great to chat with you. Okay,

607
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: take care bye. Okay, Well that was a confusing well

608
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: mostly for yeah, sorry, I came in hot. He's a

609
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: definitely that was good, but we just saw how different

610
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: videos somehow You're like let him in. I was like,

611
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: fucking well. Our next question comes from Shantal and this

612
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: is just an email, so she won't be joining us.

613
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Dear Chelsea, I'm a twenty six year old registered nurse.

614
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: My depression started in my late teens, and I've been

615
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: on antidepressants for three years now. Medication has completely changed

616
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: my life in the last few years. I graduated from

617
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: two universities with degrees, started my dream career during a pandemic,

618
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: and met my fiancee. We're getting married in September and

619
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: planned to start having children immediately after. My worry is

620
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: that I will develop postpartum depression. I don't have much

621
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: family history of mental illness, and my depression started when

622
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: I started birth control pills, so I'm hoping it'll go

623
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: away when I stop those. Although I'll have my baby

624
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: to live for and to protect and love, I'm scared

625
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: of being a failure. What should I do to prepare myself?

626
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: Thank you? Shantal? WHOA wow? Did you think that for me,

627
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: I sure did. Oh yes I did. Okay. What was

628
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: she worried about, though, like being on her medication at

629
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: the end. I think she's mostly worried about like continuing

630
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: to have depression afterward postpartum depression, and yeah, I got

631
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: it ready for it, okay. So I was never on

632
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: antidepressants my whole life, and like, and my family is

633
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: very uneducated about that stuff. So they were like a

634
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: shame part for sure, in their Massachusetts old ways. And

635
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: when I was like twenty two, when I started having

636
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: a terrible chemical dip in my brain and had panic disorder,

637
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: and it started with like my vocal surgeries and having

638
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: to be silent for so long with your thoughts. And

639
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I had my boyfriend who's my husband now, so everything

640
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: was great. I was like, I'm really happy, but I

641
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: have a migraine and running diarrhea. What's wrong with my body?

642
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: My chemicals are so flopped that I would go to

643
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: the emergency room a couple of times thinking like, oh,

644
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm allergic to something because I can't fucking breathe. And

645
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: finally was educated and learned like, oh, this is panic attacks,

646
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: this is what everyone's been talking about, and this is

647
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: my early twenties mount to breakdown. And it was wonderful

648
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: because I figured it out. And I saw a psychiatrist

649
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: who said, like, we can give you anti depressants and

650
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, man, no one in my family

651
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: is on those. I don't know anything about those. I've

652
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: just heard so much shame growing up of like you're

653
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: on a pill. So I was like, please, I'm desperate

654
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: for anything. And he told me how there's four different

655
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: types and one might work for you and one might not.

656
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: And I the first one I did worked and I like,

657
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: it was like all the scary noise stopped and I

658
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: was like yes, and it was the best. I'm on

659
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: like the lowest. I'm on twenty milligrams of site tele abram.

660
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: That's what I popped every night, and then um, it

661
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: was amazing and I never never had a panic attack

662
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: ever since. And I was like, I am cured. I

663
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: take I've been on it for like over five years.

664
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: A little bit cannot recommended enough. Then I was like,

665
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I want a baby. And I talked to my doctors

666
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: and was like, what's the deal? Am I good? And

667
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: all of my doctor said this one is safe. Don't

668
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: take any of the heavy stuff, which I wasn't taking anyway,

669
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: So it was fine. I was on like the lowest

670
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: thing of ad Evan and I that was for emergencies.

671
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: That was the same one you were already on. They

672
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: said it was safe. Yeah my side, Tyler Bram was safe.

673
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: My first O b g y N doctor said, oh,

674
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: give her of those candies, and I wanted to stab

675
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: him in the eye. I was like, you don't know

676
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: what I went through all this, Like what do you

677
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: mean throw them in the track? You? Like, I need

678
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: a plan too if I have to get off them,

679
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: to wean off them and figure out what's going on.

680
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: When all my other doctor said it's safe, stay on

681
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: it because a happy mama is happy baby, and I

682
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: was so scared of like, dude, with my panic attacks

683
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: come back, Like I got to get off these pills.

684
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: But if they come back and I have postpartum depression

685
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: like everyone else has, it's going to be extra worse

686
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: for me, I feel like. And I stayed on my

687
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: meds because all of my doctors cleared it and said

688
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: it's fine. I got a new O b g y

689
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: N because fun, that old guy, and she was so

690
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: nice to me and was like, this is great. I

691
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: stayed on it through my whole pregnancy and had an amazing,

692
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: healthy pregnancy and gave birth to a perfect, beautiful boy,

693
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and stayed all my medicine after I had zero depression

694
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: in my pregnancy. I had zero postpartum depression. And I

695
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: couldn't recommend staying on it more if you're in a routine,

696
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: in a system. It was everything for me. And I

697
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: want to have another baby and I'm on the same

698
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: exact dose. And I talked to my doctor like, yo,

699
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have an other baby. Are we good?

700
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: He's like, we good. If you like you want to

701
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: switch it up, we can. But I just love my

702
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: little pills every night. I hear your sister, I mean

703
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: I do. That's so great. Is this woman on antidepressants

704
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: right now though she's on them? Yeah, And she said

705
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: it was everything was great. Yeah. And also but also

706
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: worrying about something that may not happen. It's like it's

707
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: also suffering twice. Yes, there's no reason to suffer. There's

708
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: no reason to worry or stress out all your doctors

709
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: if everyone's clear, as are you good or exactly? And

710
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: I think also if you do have any concerns about

711
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: that or things getting bad, just being really consistent conversation

712
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: with your doctor and be talking through it, get in therapy,

713
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do to sort of like smooth

714
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: over that bump. If if in in fact you do

715
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: get some postpartment right now too is they don't do it.

716
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: I wish they did it at all your appointments when

717
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: you're pregnant, but after you're pregnant and you have your baby,

718
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: go to pediatrician's office. Every single appointment is a piece

719
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: of paper for how's your kid doing? How do you

720
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: feel about it? And there's a piece of paper just

721
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: for mama, Mama, how you feeling? Like, oh my god,

722
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I was like when did this come out? A week ago?

723
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Literally this week? And I was like, this is so

724
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: helpful and great, thank you for making me answer these questions. Well,

725
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: so there you go, ask for help and also, don't

726
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: worry about something before it happens. That is just so.

727
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: I know. It's easier said than done, but you have

728
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: to practice flipping your switch and flipping those thoughts into

729
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: a positive thing. You know. Knocked up, Yeah, yeah, well

730
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: she is knocked up, isn't she? Or she get trying

731
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: to get try. She's gonna try soon. I thought she

732
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: was very pregnant. Okay, yeah, well first get pregnant, way

733
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: far down the road worrying about this, so yeah, yeah,

734
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: he'll be a okay, I promise Yeah. Our next caller

735
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: is Teresa. Teresa says, Dear Chelsea, I'm twenty eight. I

736
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: went to your show in Kansas City and cried laughing.

737
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you for of vulnerability and strength

738
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: you gave when you spoke about your breakup on the

739
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: We Can Do Hard Things podcast. I listened to it

740
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: once when it came out and cried with you, and

741
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: once again to get the confidence and encouragement to break

742
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: up with my boyfriend of four years. Something I've struggled

743
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: with the last few years has been knowing the difference

744
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: between anxiety and intuition in my body. As I learned

745
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: to differentiate the two, I finally came to understand what

746
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: you meant when you said I wasn't going to abandon

747
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: myself as a recovering people pleaser. I realized how often

748
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I was abandoning myself in my relationship. So thank you

749
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: for planting this seed. My question has to do with

750
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: moving on. I moved out of my excess home and

751
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: now I am living in my parents basement, which feels

752
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: like a total step backwards after being so independent. My

753
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: impulse and tendency after a major loss is to sell everything,

754
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: move to a new city, new job, new apartment, cut

755
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: off my hair, and start over. So naturally, that's what

756
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm considering. I'm currently a nanny for a very stable

757
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: and supportive family, but they live forty five minutes from

758
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: my parents house. I feel confident I can get a

759
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: job anywhere, and I have a brother in extended family

760
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: in Georgia and friends in Florida who have both offered

761
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: a place to stay so I can get on my feet.

762
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: It feels like the perfect getaway. But am I too

763
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: old to be running away and starting over? I have

764
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: a stable support system here where I am, but I

765
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: finally feel free, like this world is my oyster. I

766
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: just don't want to make an impulsive decision. Please help, Teresa. Hi, Teresa, Teresa, dude,

767
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I forgot that they come in here and I'm like,

768
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, it's her Hill. This

769
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: is Megan and Trainer. She's our guest today. So Hi,

770
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: You're so cute. Look, are you too old that that

771
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: that right there is? If you're saying that, the answer

772
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: is no, No, it doesn't matter at all. Like, it's

773
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: whatever you're feeling. When you have a good attitude towards

774
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: it and you have excitement, that begets more excitement and

775
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: more good vibes and more good attitude. So if you're

776
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: already feel in that way, everything's gonna work out. It

777
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter which decision you make, as long as your

778
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: attitude is in the right place and you're optimistic and energized,

779
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: you're hot, you're gorgeous. Yet Oh my god, those are

780
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm dying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think that's kind of

781
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: my main thing. It's like I have I'm just at

782
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: this work in a road where I know that it

783
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: will be okay either way, but I just I don't

784
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: want the fear of choosing the wrong thing to limit me.

785
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's what I keep doing, and I

786
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: keep getting anxious about it, and then like prolonging it.

787
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: I need to make a decision and do it, or

788
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: else I am going to be stuck here in my

789
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: baran space net forever. And that thought is really what's

790
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: driving me crazy. Whatever decision you make is going to

791
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: be the right one. It'll work out. I remember going

792
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: on stage once and I was reading a chapter from

793
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: one of my books. It was like for my book launch,

794
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just I can't starte which

795
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: chapter two read? Which chapter to read? And one of

796
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: my girlfriends goes, it doesn't matter, choose one and then

797
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: that's the right one, and I'm like, oh, okay. But

798
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: it was true because you just have to make a

799
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: decision and then stick to it. So your choices are

800
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: between what Florida and Georgia. You said, Well, if I

801
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: keep nannying, then I could really go anywhere. There's this

802
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: agency that I've been talking to and they have families

803
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: from all over California and Georgia. Like, so I'd love

804
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: to go somewhere where I already have family or friends established,

805
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: just because it would be nice to have some sort

806
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: of support there. But yeah, I could be anywhere, so

807
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: because I could live in within any family. If I

808
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: find a family that I could live with, get out

809
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: of the Midwest for a little bit. Yeah, and don't

810
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: go to Florida. Don't not go to Florida, Georgia. Yeah,

811
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta, or if you mentioned California. I mean everything.

812
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Moving to California is just a dream for anyone who's

813
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: not from here. You just can't believe it when you

814
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: get here. Yeah, and I have family there and one

815
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: of my best friends lives there, so like, honestly, California

816
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: would be ideal. But it's just I have to find

817
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: the right fit it. And the timing is kind of

818
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: important as well, just because the family that I work

819
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: for now once ninety days and so like the timing

820
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: of looking for something and then making the jump, it

821
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: just it feels like it has to be perfect. But

822
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I think I just need to go for it and

823
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: get it started. I guess, yeah, I think you need

824
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: to take the plunge and just figure it out. Go

825
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: to Atlanta or go to California. Just flip you literally

826
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: flip a coindly. It's gonna be right, It's gonna be great. Yeah. Nowadays,

827
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: when I'm deciding, like what job to take, like as

828
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: a singer, I'm like, should I take this opportunity to

829
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: be on this TV show? Like is that what I'm

830
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: supposed to do with my career? Where am I going?

831
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: I just, um, I think it was an Oprah or

832
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: someone that was like, douche it that scares you. It

833
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: probably wasn't, Oprah, but yeah, but I've been doing stuff

834
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: that scares me, and it's been like my career is

835
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: just going up up, like the scarier the thing is,

836
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, let's go. It's like the better for me. Okay,

837
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Well that's basically what this is. So and also it's

838
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: it's also impressive that you got out of a relationship

839
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: which forced you to move into your parents base. Met

840
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: that's badass because you said you're sending to the universe

841
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: that is not acceptable and you're elevating what's coming your way.

842
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: So you're already winning. Yes, and you know, if you

843
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: believe in all this stuff, that's your Saturn return. It's

844
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: a time of change and upheaval and renewal in your life.

845
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: So like, go have a fucking adventure. Yes, that's what

846
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: it feels exciting for me, is the adventure. Like it

847
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: is terrifying. I have my home base, which I'm really

848
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: thankful for to be able to come home, but now

849
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: I have like a place to keep all my stuff

850
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna peace out and see where life

851
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: takes me because I don't have I mean like, I

852
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: have good people that will support me through whatever. I

853
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: always have a place to come back to. So yeah,

854
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: I think I just needed that encouragement. So good, good, Well,

855
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got it. Yeah, thank you so much.

856
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: You're so pretty doing the show. So they sent us

857
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: a picture of your new boyfriend when you meet him

858
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: under a palm tree somewhere put your days. Well that

859
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: was easy, guys, we were all on that one with this. Well,

860
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: so your Saturn return if you believe in all that,

861
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: like astrology study, I love it. Are you witch? No?

862
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I wish I want to be a witch.

863
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to read all the books. I know

864
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: it's a lot of study. It's a lot of study.

865
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: So your Saturn return is a time in your life

866
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: when Saturn is in the same astrological position as the

867
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: moment you were born. So right around that time is

868
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: when there's a lot of upheaval. There's a lot of change, renewal,

869
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: a lot of times you have big life shifts like

870
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: this break up, baby, you go came out. And thirty

871
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: seven is also a year not Saturn returns, because how

872
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: can Saturn return for your day? Every twenty seven years

873
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do its own thing. I think it's

874
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: like wherever it was when you were born. You might

875
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: not know this, but I'm an astrological wizard. Really yeah,

876
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: I know pretty much everything about the solar system. I know, Megan,

877
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: you and I need to do a little reading. No,

878
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about now the same. I am

879
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: a very confused person. Okay, well, great mission accomplished. Good, Well,

880
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: we have one more question. This question is from Mitchell.

881
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Mitchell is nineteen. That's kind of a harder one, he says. Hi, Chelsea,

882
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm a nineteen year old Gauge Ginger male, and I'm

883
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: asking for your thoughts and advice on how to move

884
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: forward from dealing with emotional abuse from kindergarten to sixth

885
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 1: grade and sometime after that to start. I was born

886
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: with anxiety, a learning disability, and Asperger syndrome. The earliest

887
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: memories I have are from when I was six years

888
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: old and in kindergarten. I remember my face being red

889
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: hot and feeling scared and overwhelmed with embarrassment because my

890
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: female teacher was pointing and talking out loud to me

891
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: about how I didn't understand how to do whatever we

892
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: were working on as much as the other kids did.

893
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: After that, I remember sitting in a corner of a

894
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: parent teacher conference and feeling very sad, not smart or

895
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: normal at all, because my kindergarten teacher was talking about

896
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: how I was not as smart as the other kids.

897
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: From there on, things only got worse. Since I was

898
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: a quiet, not smart, ginger kid, I got bullied and

899
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: made fun of by my classmates. In particular, two girls

900
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: bullied me from kindergarten till sixth grade. Today I still

901
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: think about people joking about how gross it was I

902
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: had ginger hair all over me and that nobody would

903
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: ever love me. I was not as smart as the

904
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: other kids, lonely, a loser, ugly, sad, had no friends,

905
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: and of course there was name calling. I want to

906
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: love myself, but I feel so scarred. So what are

907
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts on advice on how to love myself? Mitchell Mitchell?

908
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: I already loved Mitchell. That breaks my heart because I'm

909
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: going to have four ginger babies and like the ginger

910
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: is a b Yeah, I do, and like redheads nowadays.

911
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but they are the

912
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: most popular. I agree with that redheads have had a

913
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: redheads are in vogue, so you're lucky because your timing

914
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: couldn't be more perfect. And I will also say I've

915
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: read a lot of emails that come into this show,

916
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: and you're a very smart Mitchell, because it's one of

917
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: the better written emails that I have seen. And I

918
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: also believe Mitchell listen, I had a very tough time

919
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: in elementary school and continue to have a tough time.

920
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: And I mean, we've all been in a situation where

921
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: we have been judged by others and it feels like shit,

922
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: But that's not the situation you're in anymore. And if

923
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: that does happen to you, it is so character building.

924
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: So all you have to take away from that situation

925
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: is strength, because A you survived it and b it's over,

926
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: so you have like a whole opportunity for your new

927
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: story to begin, and it should start today. You know

928
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: that is the past. You can never affect the past.

929
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: It's over. The more you focus on it, the bigger

930
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: it gets. You have to move into the present moment

931
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: and realize that you're not that little kid anymore. You're

932
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: not defenseless, and no one's calling your names, and it's cool.

933
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: To be a redhead now, agreed. And you know what,

934
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: just because some people are not into redheads, other people

935
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: are very into redheads, like very specifically. Yeah, I dated

936
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: a redhead who had an incredible, incredible penis and I

937
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: don't throwat the around they're humongous. Is it? Is it

938
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: a redhead thing? It's a redhead? Oh my god? Well

939
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: there you go. You redheads have the biggest penis is

940
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: problem solved. It's a weird thing, but that's a thing.

941
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: It's that see, yes, that's like I don't think they're pretty,

942
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: but his is like god, but like the big one. Right,

943
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: So you see, you get different gifts. Everybody gets different gifts.

944
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: And know you're hung Oh my god, yeah you big yeah,

945
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: basic red and big red dick energy. I love how

946
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Chelsea's like, move on to the presence now. But if

947
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: there's something that was really traumatic, My brother just did

948
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: trauma therapy. It's different than like regular therapy. He met

949
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: with a trauma specialized therapist that went back. He had

950
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: a slumber party when he was like in elementary school

951
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: that bucked him up for a year. It was one night,

952
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: but that one night really destroyed him and he I

953
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: tried to be like, go to therapy, go to therapy,

954
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: and he refused, and finally Dr Drew came on our

955
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: podcast working on a PUD and told him like, oh,

956
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: why don't you try trauma therapy? And he did that

957
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: and he came home and was like, you're right. I

958
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: really needed that. Like that changed, and he's been like

959
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: so much happier ever since. Yeah, yeah, should I come back?

960
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean I lived down the street like you. Oh

961
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: my god, I'm here and mom can come next time.

962
00:47:53,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Mama should be so happy herself. She needs her screen time.

963
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Yes? Yeah, no, I agree,

964
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: grab some therapy, some e M d R. I don't

965
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: know if that's what your brother did, but I know

966
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: that's been really helpful. He did specific experiences. Yeah, well, Chelsea,

967
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: anything you want to add to that, Yeah, I would

968
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: just say what I said earlier, like if it was bullying,

969
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: which is what I experienced. I mean, I once had

970
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: a girl called me on the phone and she's like,

971
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: don't come go to school tomorrow because we're gonna fucking

972
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: kick your ass. And I was like, oh fuck. And

973
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: they were older girls and they tormented me. I mean

974
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: I kind of deserved it because I was also a tormentor,

975
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: so it was a reciprocal situation. But if it was

976
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: like that what I've experienced, which was name calling, Like

977
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: they used to call me a dog because I looked

978
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: up with a senior boy. So the senior girls hated me.

979
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: And then and I walked down this hall and they

980
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: would bark at me and call me a dog. They're like,

981
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: you're so ugly. Woof, woof, woof, And they would follow

982
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: me from class to class, to the point where my

983
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: my girlfriend wouldn't even walk down the hall with me

984
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to get the abuse either. So,

985
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: like that stuff was tortuous, but I am so strong

986
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: because of it, Like no one fucks with me anymore.

987
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: I know exactly what to do and that won't ever happen.

988
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: And again, so also take that attitude with you. You know,

989
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: people who go through stuff like that, it's to build character.

990
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: You know, you have to make a good thing out

991
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: of a bad thing, can't fo me? Now? Oh, well,

992
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back

993
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: to wrap up with Megan and Chelsea. Hey, we're back,

994
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: We're back it. Well, Megan, is there any advice you

995
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: would like to request Meg. Yes, I thought about this

996
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: long and hard. I just want you to help me

997
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: with your secrets on how you refuse to age like.

998
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: I want to do everything. I want to put everything

999
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: in my body that you put in your body. I

1000
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: will get well. My babies sore, they're real. I'm positive.

1001
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: Do you want to touch them? They're real? Don't know?

1002
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: There's no oh, there's so I know. I know I

1003
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: nothing fake in now. I don't have fake boobs. I

1004
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: don't have anything fake really what I do. But but

1005
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: I I know, I know, But I do like everything

1006
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: I can possibly do to keep my face and skin

1007
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: smooth and soft. And I'll give you I know you

1008
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: we know what. I don't even drink that much water.

1009
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine how great it would be

1010
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: if I did drink water. I have to put like

1011
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: electrolyte flavors in my water to drink it, because water

1012
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: to be so fucking boring. But I'll give you a

1013
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: whole list. I do tens of stuff. And you know

1014
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: who I go to the who the best facialist is doctor.

1015
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: I've never been to a facialist. Really, to wait till

1016
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: you go to this woman. I go to this facialist,

1017
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: Dr Nigma, and she literally you get a facial and

1018
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: your face is lifted for like a week. And so

1019
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: I just go to her. Whatever I'll get. I'll give

1020
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: you a comprehensive list. You're young, so you don't have

1021
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: to start up doing I want to freeze here this

1022
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: forever this. Yeah right, we'll just make sure you don't

1023
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: get don't ever get a fun tan. That is the

1024
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: you know that, No, I don't you need like hats

1025
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: that go around the sun is your son and the

1026
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: devil I know start there. And because I didn't realize,

1027
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: I didn't learn learn about taking care of my skin

1028
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: until I was probably thirty five years old. That's bullshit.

1029
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: So there's a lot you can do. And literally, like

1030
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: basically what you want to do is rip your skin

1031
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: off once a year so that it has to recover. Yeah,

1032
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: you do a peel or some crazy where you have

1033
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: to like literally can't be seen for like, you know,

1034
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: a week, but it makes your skin come in baby baby,

1035
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: baby soft. It looks so good. Thank you, thanks for

1036
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: noticing God, Like, what one thing you want to ask

1037
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: you and n A d you guys, that's the new thing.

1038
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: I inject myself every day with N A D and

1039
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: that's a youth molecule and it's been proven it's no,

1040
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I have a peptide and I injected

1041
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: every day every morning. You can get drips or you injected,

1042
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: and it's the youth molecule which reverses or stops the

1043
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: aging process of yourselves and has been proven to also

1044
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: reverse the aging. Also text me that. Yeah, absolutely, I'll

1045
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: text you all of it. I have no secrets. I

1046
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: want to share it with the I want everyone to

1047
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: look have beautiful skin. Yeah, Chelsea, this is what I

1048
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: appreciate about you, because you're not like I just need

1049
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: a really good cream. Like No, I know everyone's so

1050
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: full of ship. I want the truth. I knew you

1051
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: would tell me. Okay, well, i'll make that list when

1052
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: I get home. Megan, you've been a delightful guess as usual.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on everything. I just love you and I'm just

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Speaker 1: happy for you. Take you. I love you so much. Day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I hope I helped anybody you did.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who haven't seen my special

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Speaker 1: on Netflix, it's out. Revolution is out and it's streaming

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Speaker 1: and I am announcing a new tour called the Little

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Speaker 1: Big Bitch Tour. I am starting again in April. I

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Speaker 1: announced a bunch of cities, so it's on my Instagram

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Speaker 1: and my website and whatever. But yes, I'm going back

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Speaker 1: on the road and form us. I have a whole

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Speaker 1: new show and a whole new thing, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go to our again. So if you'd like advice from Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: just send us an email at Dear Chelsea podcast at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Dere Chelsea is a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Executive produced by Nick Stuff, produced by Catherine Law,

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Speaker 1: and edited and engineered by Brad Dickert.