1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck is 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: out for the day preparing. We have a few of 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: these days during the fall, preparing for his upcoming wedding, 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: and he'll be back with me tomorrow. But for today, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: I am hanging out with you guys solo. We've got 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot to hang out, talk about, discuss. We're gonna 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: be joined by Jared Kushner. He's got a brand new 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: book out. He'll join us at one thirty Eastern and 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: then at two eastern Alex Berenson, who has been providing receipts, 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: including this morning from CNN's Oliver Darcy, trying to get 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: him in trouble for the comments that he was making 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: on social media surrounding the COVID shot. That will be 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: an interesting discussion, and we will also discuss with Alex 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci announcing that he will step down. All of 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: that coming throughout the course of the program. Those are 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: the two guests. But I want to start today with 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: the front page of the New York Times and the 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: headline is three hundred documents taken by Trump were classified. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Volume raised alarm. Request for Mara Lago security dates shows 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: inquiry continues. This is a front page story in the 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: New York Times came out last night. Some of you 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: probably saw it. There are four different New York Times 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: reporters that are listed as the authors of this piece, 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: and all of those authors, significantly have been well sourced 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: for years in the United States government's decisions to investigate 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And so the significant aspect of this story 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: coming out is I don't want you to miss what's 30 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: going on. The Department of Justice under Merrick Garland right 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: now is arguing this information is far too dangerous for you, 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: the American public, to even be able to see the 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: affidavit under which we instituted the unprecedented raid of a 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: former president of the United States by the current existing 35 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: president of the United States who may well be running 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump in twenty twenty four and has already 37 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: run against him in twenty twenty The American public, this 38 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: information is too sensitive for you to even be able 39 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: to see. That is what the Merrit Garland Department of 40 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Justice is arguing. Simultaneously, they are leaking exactly what those 41 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: documents are to the New York Times so that their 42 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: base in left wing media knows what is going on, 43 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: while you, the American public, cannot be trusted to even 44 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: know what the danger documents that Donald Trump has retained 45 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: actually maintains inside of Mara Lago. Here is the opening 46 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: paragraph of this story. This story, by the way, but 47 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's true. We know it's true 48 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: as the Department of Justice wants it to be true 49 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: because they are leaking like crazy. I guarantee you that 50 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his legal team read this article and 51 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: got more information from this New York Times article than 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: they have been able to get from many of the 53 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: details surrounding the warrant. This opening paragraph is the initial 54 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: batch of documents retrieved from the National Archives had one 55 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty marked disclassified, a number that ignited intense 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: concern at the Justice Department and helped trigger the criminal 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: investigation that led FBI agents to swoop into Marlago this 58 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: month seeking to recover more. Multiple people briefed on the 59 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: matter set in total that I'm reading from the New 60 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: York Times, the government has recovered more than three hundred 61 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: documents with classified markings since he left office. And so 62 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: this is what is going on. What I believe is 63 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: taking place here is the Department of Justice is simultaneously 64 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: placating all of their left wing allies by leaking to 65 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the New York Times while telling you that you can't 66 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: be trusted to know what was inside of mar Lago. 67 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: They haven't even given Donald Trump an accurate accounting of 68 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: what was taken from inside mar Lago, so his staff 69 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: is not even aware of exactly what has been seized. 70 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: But do not miss the larger context under which this 71 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: investigation is taking place. Namely, this is a pretty strong 72 00:04:53,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: sign that Merrick Garland recognizes he has nothing on January sixth. 73 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: And I think we've kind of in covering this story 74 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: missed a big detail here, which is, look how quickly 75 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump hate apparatus out there, the media, the politicians, 76 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the left wingers who are driven insane by Donald Trump. 77 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: Look how quickly they pivoted from January sixth. That's going 78 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: to lead to sedition, insurrection, treason, all of these different 79 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: potential charges that they were gonna levy against Donald Trump. 80 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Look at how quickly they pivoted four months, all summer long, 81 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: we heard that January sixth was the new event that 82 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: was going to for once and for all, grabbed Donald 83 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Trump and he wasn't going to be able to continue 84 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: his political career. He was gonna walk out in handcuffs. 85 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: But look at what happened, almost with there's nary a 86 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: comment out there. They pivoted from January sixth to the 87 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: FBI raid over confidential documents, with very little bridge between 88 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: the two. To me, this is evidence that Merrick Garland 89 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: is letting everyone know out there, we don't have him 90 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: on January sixth. There's nothing that we can get him. 91 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: On January sixth, we don't have him. This is now 92 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the Lyttany, the Muller Report, Impeachment one, Impeachment two, all 93 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: of the Russia collusion, everything that has been alleged about 94 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has now boiled down to this. Think about 95 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: it for a minute. Did he have documents that he 96 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to have that were directly connected to his 97 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: presidency and may have been packed up there and ended 98 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: up in his office in mar Lago as opposed to 99 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: with the National Archives. Let's think about this for a moment. 100 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: If these documents are so incredibly dangerous, why does the 101 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: National Archives need them? Would you think? I mean, I 102 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: don't hear anybody asking this question, But do you think 103 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: to yourself, you know the safest place for documents to 104 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: be in America, It's in the National Archives. Have you 105 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: ever been to the National Archives? I have history nerd. 106 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: I went and looked up records of some of my 107 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: ancestors who fought on both the North and the South 108 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: during the Civil War. You can go in, you can 109 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: request documents. They'll bring them out to you. I was 110 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: a history major at George Washington University. I've been to 111 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: the Archives a few times. It's not the place where 112 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: you would want super secreted documents to be stored. And 113 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't hear anybody asking the question, if these documents 114 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: are so incredibly top secret and classified, why don't we 115 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: want the random National Archives to have them. Yeah. We're 116 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: not talking about these documents being seized and being brought 117 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: under lock and key inside of the CIA or the 118 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: FBI or someplace like that. No. No No, we're talking about 119 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: the historical record being kept so that these classified documents 120 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: can be in possession of the National Archives, but they're 121 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: not able to be reviewed for years by the general public, 122 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: yet they're so important that the classification status makes them 123 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: top secret and everybody's in danger. Now, this is crazy. 124 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: I can understand look at some of the documents that 125 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: now they're talking about. Trump might have kept a personal 126 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: letter that Barack Obama wrote to him that he found 127 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: in the Resolute Desk when he showed up in the 128 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: White House on the first day. I can see how 129 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: that could happen. Trump reportedly left a letter for Joe 130 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Biden as well, which is a historical trend. Typically, one 131 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: president writes a personal note to the president that will 132 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: follow him and leaves that note inside of the Resolute Desk. 133 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: I actually think it's a remarkably incredible historic and transcendent 134 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: history that we have, that we've created that that sort 135 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: of routine, that legacy. But it's not surprising to me 136 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: that Trump would want to keep that letter to him 137 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: from Barack Obama. And it's not surprising to me that 138 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Trump might want to keep letters from Kim Jong Oon 139 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: that were written to him from when he was in 140 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: was president as well. And remember this has been going 141 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: on for generations. It wasn't until the nineteen late nineteen 142 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: seventies that there was even any rules surrounding presidential records. 143 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Prior to that, it was very commonplace for presidents to 144 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: keep all their papers so they could write books, so 145 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: they could tell to his historical story of their time 146 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: in office. Think about how trumped up this entire story is. 147 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: The National Archives is arguing that they should be able 148 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: to have possession of documents from Donald Trump's presidency instead 149 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. That seems like a very minor conflict. 150 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: And frankly, for most of you out there listening, I 151 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: bet a lot of you say, well, why wouldn't Trump 152 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: have the right to keep letters that were written to him? 153 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: And why would the National Archives even have the right 154 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: to have access to those in the first place. But 155 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: even if that's a dispute, how in the world is 156 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: this such a dispute that, for the first time in 157 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: over two hundred years of American history, we're gonna have 158 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: a sitting attorney general of the opposing political party sign 159 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: a warrant to allow FBI agents to storm the gates 160 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: of the top political rival over old letters from the 161 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: presidency that the National Archives thinks that they should have. 162 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: This is an unbelievable, unbelievably ridiculous dispute. That is taking place, 163 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: that has escalated far beyond, far beyond where it should 164 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: have ever gone. Let me just take a moment think 165 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: about the Muller Report, the allegations against Donald Trump, even 166 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: though we now know that they were not true, that 167 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: Russia colluded and caused the outcome of our election to 168 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: be different. That's a significant allegation. It's an allegation that 169 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: a sitting president is working in conjunction with a foreign 170 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: government to overturn what otherwise would have been the will 171 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: of the people, to subvert that will and end up 172 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: president of the United States. Now was a lie. It 173 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: was all made up. There was no basis to it. 174 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: But it was a significant allegation. If I told you 175 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: right now that China had been working in cahoots with 176 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to put him into presidential office and subvert 177 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: the entire will of the American electorate, that would be 178 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: a significant claim, deserving certainly of massive investigation. Now, Impeachment 179 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: one over the over the Russia collusion and Ukraine and 180 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: all that was a joke, right. Impeachment two over January sixth, 181 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: also a joke. But those were more significant acts. People 182 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: went into the Capitol because they were unhappy with the 183 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: outcome of the twenty twenty election, and Trump allegedly encouraged 184 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: them to go there. Okay, it's not true, but it's 185 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: a significant accusation. The accusation that Trump had an imp 186 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: and appropriate phone call with the Ukrainian Prime minister and 187 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: that he was asking him to do diligent research on 188 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: his top political opponent, Joe Biden. All Right, it's not true, 189 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: it's illegitimate, but it's at least something. Think about what 190 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. Whether the National Archives has a 191 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: letter or Donald Trump has a letter was used to 192 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: justify a federal raid on a former president's home. This 193 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: is not a significant dispute. Maybe for historians. You might 194 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: be sitting around if you're a historian in years to 195 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: come and want to see that letter. You might want 196 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: to see what Kim Jongoon wrote to Donald Trump two 197 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: hundred years from now when you're writing a book, or 198 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: a hundred years from now. But this idea that the 199 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: National Archives and where letters that were personally written to 200 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump should be is somehow so worthy of a 201 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: federal investigation that we got to storm the gates of 202 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: our lago with twenty plus FBI agents, and that the 203 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: former president is being investigated by the current president for 204 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: the first time in the history of our republic. This 205 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: isn't impeachable. This is crimeworthy. 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We are happy to 242 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: have the reach that we do, and that is because 243 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: of you guys helping to spread the word about the 244 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck show. Buck is, as I was saying 245 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: on the wedding treadmill, he is going to be in 246 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: and out somewhat during the fall as he gets ready 247 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: for that, plus the honeymoon coming up in the spring 248 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: or I guess still be the winter, still be the 249 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: winter sometime in February. I think. So all of that 250 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: is underway. I'm in solo today. Appreciate all of you 251 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Several different news stories that I 252 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: want to hit keep you updated. Paul Pelosi's he's got 253 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: incredible timing when it comes to his investments. Well, he's 254 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: also got good warriors. No significant punishment coming for him. 255 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: This is just coming down earlier in the hour for 256 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: his dui. He is going to basically I think they 257 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: said he's spent five days in jail. That surprises me 258 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: surrounding the dui arrest, but that is going to be 259 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: his full punishment. That story basically over Pelosi riding off 260 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: into the sunset to continue to make more and more 261 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: stock trades with perfect timing. Thanks to his wife Nancy. 262 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: We've got two Michigan conspiracists who were convicted of trying 263 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. We had updated you on their 264 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: trial previously. Two of the four men who were charged 265 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: were acquitted in the prior trial. There were two mistrials. 266 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: These two defendants who had had a mistrial previously were 267 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: just convicted on the Gretchen Whitmer case. So that story 268 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: now complete, two not guilty verdicts, two acquittals, and now 269 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: two convictions on that conspiracy. So a split result in 270 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: that story which received a massive amount of attention for 271 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: that plot alleged against Gretchen Whitmer. All Right, today is 272 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: primary day in Florida, New York, and I believe Oklahoma, 273 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: Florida is the one that is going to receive the 274 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: most attention because we will find out finally who is 275 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: going to be challenging Ron De Santis for the govern 276 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: of Florida. And it appears that Charlie christ is going 277 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: to be the nominee. He's running against Nicki Freed. Nicki 278 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: Freed Agriculture or commissioner statewide, has not been able to 279 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: catch much fire in this Florida Democrats primary, and so 280 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: it appears Charlie Christ is going to be the nominee. 281 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: He was a governor before. And there's a joke that 282 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: they like to tell in Florida. A Democrat, a Republican, 283 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: and an independent walks into the bar and someone says, hey, 284 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: how are you doing, Charlie, Because Charlie Christ has been 285 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: in his political career a Democrat, a Republican, and an independent. 286 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: He now is running as a Democrat, likely to get 287 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: squashed by run de Santis, and I wanted to point 288 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: out that DeSantis has been one of the best defenders 289 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump since the Mara Lago ray. Now, there 290 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: have been a lot of sort of, I would say 291 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of frostiness in the relationship between DeSantis 292 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: and with many people expecting that DeSantis was going to 293 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: run for president against Trump. Now we don't know whether 294 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: DeSantis is going to run or not. But I did 295 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: want to point out that DeSantis has been well, I 296 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: think Desanta is one of the smartest politicians out there. 297 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: You don't go to Harvard Law School and graduate and 298 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: be a knucklehead, let's be honest. But DeSantis said what 299 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: I told you in the start of this first hour. 300 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: It's definitely true. Federal agencies have been weaponized against people 301 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: the government doesn't like. Listen to Rhonda Santis here, we'll 302 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: play that in a sect for you to set it up. 303 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: It's cut three. So has a history now of weaponizing 304 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: its power to go after people that it doesn't like. 305 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: And not only have they done that in a variety 306 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: of context, they went after Donald Trump as a candidate, 307 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: specifically with Russia collusion, even when he became president, and 308 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: they were basically trying to drive him out of office 309 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: based on a conspiracy theory. You've seen FBI agents falsify 310 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: FISA applications. Basically, these agencies have become the enforcement arm 311 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: of one particular faction of our country against everybody else. 312 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: I haven't read the motion in terms of what was 313 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: going on, but clearly federal agencies in the past five 314 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: ten years have been weaponized against people the government doesn't like. 315 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: That's just a fact. Look. I love Ron DeSantis and 316 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: what he has done as governor of Florida. I also 317 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: love what Donald Trump did in his first term as president. 318 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: The idea of both these guys going head to head 319 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: for the presidential nomination I think could end up happening 320 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: as it pertains to twenty twenty four again Florida primary day. 321 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: I expect that Charlie crist will be the nominee and 322 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: that DeSantis will beat Charlie Crist by around seven or 323 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: eight points, which is an absolute landslide in Florida. And 324 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: DeSantis has been such a success in Florida that I 325 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: believe he will have solidly made Florida a red state, 326 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe for a generation to come, because so many people 327 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: moved to Florida over COVID. They're far more Republicans in 328 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the state of Florida. Now, this state which was the 329 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: flashpoint two thousand and two thousand and four, you guys 330 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: all remember it in presidential politics the state that would 331 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: decide the election. Then it was Ohio. Both of those 332 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: states have moved solidly into the red camp, and I 333 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: think De Santis is going to stamp his victory in 334 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: a big way. Here's my thesis on what should happen. 335 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: We got a lot of Trump people out there listening. 336 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Jared Kushner here at the 337 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour, and I'll lay this out for 338 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: him too. Jared Kushner living down in Florida. Now, a 339 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of the Trump family obviously has relocated to Florida. 340 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Everyone wants. I think a lot of you out there, 341 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: I should say, would love the idea of a Donald 342 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: Trump on president and Ron De Santis vice president tick. 343 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I think it is indisputably the strongest possible ticket that 344 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: the Republican Party could put forward in twenty twenty four. 345 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: That's presuming Trump is running, right, because otherwise I think 346 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the Santists as a president with a vice presidential choice 347 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: of his own, could make a lot of sense the 348 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: challenge here. And I give credit to a caller. It's 349 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: only a couple of things callers have said in my 350 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: radio career. Every now and then it happens where you 351 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: register such a good point. I'd say, the greatest call 352 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: I've ever had. It's a good tip for you guys. 353 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: I used to do local sports talker radio back at Nashville. 354 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: Old old Southern caller called in because I was talking 355 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: about how I had really bad allergies, and he said, 356 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: forget all the ZERD texts, forget all the Clareton and 357 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: all the different prescription allergy medicine and everything else. Even 358 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: forget going out and getting all those shots. He said, 359 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: here's what you do, sonny boy, I think he said, 360 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: sonny boy, which is common phrase for old, old Southern men. 361 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: My grandfather used to love that phrase. He said, just 362 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: go get local honey in your town, in your region, 363 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: and take a full tablespoon of it every morning, and 364 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: it will handle your allergies to a large extent. I've 365 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: been doing that now for about fifteen years and it 366 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: has virtually cured all of my allergies. I mean it, 367 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: it is remarkable how well that works. Now. I'm not 368 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: a scientist, unlike doctor Fauci, but would I would say 369 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: that his argument, which is again old school wisdom, is 370 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: that it's the pollen, right, the local pollen that the 371 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: bees are all grabbing from your area is going to 372 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: help your immune system to be more experienced with it 373 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: if you're taking that tablespoonful, let's be local honey. Tablespoonful 374 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: local honey every day, go down to your farmer's market whatever. 375 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: It's remarkable how well it worked for me, way better 376 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: than any of the over the counter medications. And where 377 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: I live, Nashville, we have awful allergies. Nashville is kind 378 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: of down in a little bit of a bowl, and 379 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: so everything just kind of settles on it anyway. Best 380 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: advice that we had another caller early in Clay and 381 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: Budd hadn't really spent much time thinking about it. He 382 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: called in and he said, because of both men being 383 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: from the same state, they can't theoretically be on the 384 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: same presidential ticket. That's correct. You don't hear it discussed 385 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: very much. But since DeSantis is presumably going to be governor, 386 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: and since Trump has relocated and made his primary residence 387 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: Mara Lago, one of the two of those men would 388 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: have to have a different base, a different state of 389 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: primary residency in order for them to share a presidential ticket. 390 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody talk about this publicly. I haven't 391 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: seen it written anywhere. I'm a little bit concerned that 392 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: where Trump would make his base, they may try to 393 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: if he moved outside of Florida now to run in 394 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, that we would end up with a 395 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: huge legal case, because you can see if he went 396 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: to another blue state, if he went back to New 397 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: York to live in Trump Tower, or if he went 398 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: to Bedminster out in New Jersey. You could see how 399 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: some prosecutor could try to make their bones by saying 400 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: you're not a real resident of this state. How many 401 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: days have you actually spent here? So I'm a little 402 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: bit curious about this and a little bit concerned about it. 403 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: But what I would love to see is these two 404 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: guys come together, sit in a room together, because again, 405 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: I think DeSantis has been one of the best defenders 406 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: of Trump out there as it pertains to mar Lago raid, 407 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: and I think it makes it less likely that Trump 408 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: is going to have a lot of competition because I 409 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: think it's coalesced a lot of the support for Trump. 410 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: Many of you out there listening to me right now 411 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: may have been ambivalent on the idea of Trump twenty 412 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: four and as soon as the FBI agents laid siege 413 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: to Marrow Lago and stormed the home there a lot 414 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: of you said, no, I'm one hundred percent in the 415 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: Trump camp. In other words, the political ramifications of this 416 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: have been far more beneficial to Donald Trump than they 417 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: have been to Joe Biden and to the Democrat Party 418 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: in general. And so I'd like for these guys to 419 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: sit down, face to face, solve their issue, and then 420 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: I'd like for them here's what I would love when 421 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Trump announces, which I hope will be soon after the 422 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: mid terms. I would love for Trump to go ahead 423 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: and announce De Santis as his vice presidential running mate 424 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: and let them hit the ground running in January February 425 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, because I think De Santis can 426 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: make the case for Trump better than Trump can even 427 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: make the case for Trump. And then the one thing 428 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: I will say that I'm nervous about with Trump is 429 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: just that he's got four years can't run again. I 430 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: want that VP to be a bridge where we all 431 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: know that potentially we've got a twelve year ticket. Right. 432 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: So if Trump is running in twenty four and he's 433 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: saying DeSantis is my guy and he's going to take 434 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: you for the next eight years, that twelve year ticket 435 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: that I'm voting for in twenty twenty four, that is 436 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: a really good sales pitch. And I think DeSantis Trump 437 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: has got a bull in a China shop quality to him. 438 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: You guys know what I'm talking about. Every now and then, 439 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: he's knocking things over that don't need to get knocked over. 440 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: DeSantis is a targeted assassin, right. He's got the ability 441 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: to find the weakness like a great lawyer would distill 442 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: an argument down and make it in a really succinct manner. 443 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: And I think the duo of these two could be incredibly, 444 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: incredibly popular. But Trump needs to find a new residence, 445 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: and he needs to find a new residence if this 446 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: idea of mine is going to take root where he 447 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about some blue day loon trying 448 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: to argue, oh, these guys can't be a ticket because 449 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: Trump's not technically a resident of New York, New Jersey 450 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: or New York or whatever. So he needs to Trump's 451 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: got plenty of money, find a place that could be 452 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: his residency in twenty twenty three. Make sure that you 453 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: spend six months in a day there, that you qualify 454 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: there in twenty three, so that you're set for twenty four. 455 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: This needs to be well planned out. I think it 456 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: could make a ton of cent I think it would 457 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: be the single most ideal ticket for Republicans as we 458 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: roll ahead into twenty twenty four. It's not a four 459 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: year ticket, it's a potential twelve year ride towards American excellence. 460 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined by Jared Kushner an amend a minute. 461 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll take some of your calls potentially eight hundred two 462 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: two two eight eight two as we roll through the 463 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: second hour of the program. But I want to tell 464 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: you Sergeant Bobby Schwartz lost his life yesterday while serving 465 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: a court order at a home in Oklahoma City. It 466 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: was a routine day on the job and that police 467 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: officer that's argent didn't come home. You may have seen 468 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: his boss breaking down. 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That's t the number two t dot org 487 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: to make an appointment with the truth. Tune in every 488 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: day to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Welcome 489 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Buck is out 490 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: preparing for the wedding. I am in solo. We're joined 491 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: now by Jared Kushner, senior advisor to President Trump. His 492 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: book Breaking History, a White House Memoir, is released today. Jared, 493 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: what was the writing process like for you? Had you 494 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: ever written a book, What was your experience like going 495 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: through it? What did you learn about yourself? Well, first 496 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: of all, Clay, it's great to be with you and 497 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: big fan of your work and all that you guys do. 498 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: So so for me, I'd never written a book before, 499 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: so the first thing I did is obviously I've read 500 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: a lot of books, but I took a masterclass online 501 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: from James Patterson and I went through his process, and 502 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: what I learned from from the way he does a 503 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: book is that the outlining process is the most important 504 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: part of it. If you have a good outline, you 505 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: could write a great book. And so I spent the 506 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: first three months really trying to catalog all of my 507 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: different experiences and figure out how I weave them all together. 508 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: What I wanted the readers to feel was the excitement 509 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: that we felt every day where we had obviously the 510 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: onslaught of the you know, the investigations into Russia and 511 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: the false impeachments and the congressional inqurease, but also the 512 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: accomplishments and how we navigated through as outsiders in Washington 513 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: to go through all the different challenges that Trump wanted 514 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: to do, whether it was creating trade deals with China 515 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and Mexico and Canada and Japan, or whether it was 516 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: the work we did in the Middle East, or to 517 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: create the Abraham Accords and all the peace deals, or 518 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: how we dealt with Congress and how we dealt with 519 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: a very hostile Washington. So I think I was able 520 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: to capture the excitement, and it's a very fast paced read, 521 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: but I learned a lot about myself. It reminded me 522 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: of a lot of the challenges from earlier in my 523 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: time in Washington that I probably repressed or forgotten. But 524 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: but really, you know, coming up and telling that story 525 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: was I think very important to do for people to 526 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: really understand what happened inside the Trump White House with 527 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: all the fascination that's occurred about it for so many years. 528 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that James Patterson. I finished his 529 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: book recently. I think it's called Like James Patterson on 530 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: James Patterson about his life story. And obviously many of 531 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: you out there, I'm sure have read some of James 532 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: Patterson's thrillers, but that book was really really entertaining, easy 533 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: quick read for people out there who may want something, 534 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: and I'm sure encourage people to go by Jared's book 535 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: as well. Where were you, Jared when you found out 536 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: about the Moral Lago raid and what was your initial reaction? 537 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: So my wife and I were actually in Rochester. We 538 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: were doing some checkups at the Mayo Clinic, and we 539 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: were really shocked by it. To be honest, it just 540 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: feels like we've been living through this over and over again. 541 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: Where for you know, the last six years. I mean, first, 542 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: they spied on Trump's campaign, and that's that's been proven. 543 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: The uh, you know, they they falsified fies and warrants 544 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. We went through two 545 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: years of inquiries where they basically promised that Trump was 546 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: a Russian spy and they rejected that. They refused to 547 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: accept the results of the twenty sixteen election, and we 548 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: had to go through that. I personally sat for you know, 549 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: over sixteen hours of congressional and Special Council testimony in 550 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: order to show them that, you know, he ran an 551 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: incredible campaign and one fair and square, all while trying 552 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: to get our work done. And so then we dealt 553 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: with the impeachment. And I write about a lot of 554 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: this in my book. So I think it's just time 555 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: and time again that that Trump drives his enemy so 556 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: crazy that they just go over the top, and they 557 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: they break all the norms and and and then push 558 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: aside all their morals in order to try to get him. 559 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: And so I was very, very shocked that they would 560 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: do this. To raid the home of your your strongest 561 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: political opponent, is is something that happens in third world 562 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: countries and and it seems like over something that that 563 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: could have been worked out between lawyers to the degree 564 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: that there there there there was an issue. Or were 565 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: you a political guy before Trump decided to run for 566 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: president and what was that actually like for you to 567 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: have a father in law who suddenly is running for president. 568 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: So so those are those are interesting questions. I studied 569 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: obviously political theory when I was in college at Harvard 570 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: and UH, and I obviously was involved also with UH. 571 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: You know, when you're in the real estate business, you're 572 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: always dealing with local politicians and zoning issues, and politics 573 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: does affect your your businesses because people can can move, 574 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: but but buildings can't move. So you're you're you're vested 575 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: in politics. But I was never thinking to get actively involved. 576 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: I write about my time that I was working at 577 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: the Manhattan District Attorney's office. I thought when I was 578 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: at NYU law school, I'd maybe be a prosecutor, but um, 579 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: but it was tough. I when I when my father 580 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: got arrested, I saw that, you know, prosecut us, left 581 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: unchecked and often with political motives, can really destroy families 582 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: and have big impacts on people. And it just changed 583 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: my point of view and I was forced at that 584 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: point to go into business and really helped my father's company, 585 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: and then I had a chance to build my own 586 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: companies over the next years. And then you know what 587 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: Donald does, your father in law, nothing was ever boring, 588 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: and he said he wanted to run for president, and 589 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, with him, there was always something exciting happening, 590 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's different than when he told us. 591 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, he was getting inducted into the WWE Hall 592 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: of Fame, which was also another adventure. When did you 593 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: grow up a wrestling fan? By the way, who didn't 594 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: grow up a wrestling fan? Of course we did, but 595 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: I'd never dreamed of my father in law would be 596 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: in the WWE Hall of Fame. But I also never 597 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: dreamed v president. So so he announced he was running 598 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: and we were all, you know, very supportive of it, 599 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: but none of us knew, really knew what we were 600 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: getting into. And I write about in the book, you 601 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: know a lot of the different adventures that we had 602 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: and also for me as somebody who was more of 603 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: a you know, independent centrist from the upper East side 604 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: of them, and Hadden who basically started exploring the country 605 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: and understanding the people who were supporting Trump and starting 606 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: to see that he was a pragmatist on the issues 607 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: and he represented people who didn't have a voice in Washington, 608 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: and then being a part of that journey as a 609 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: fellow outsider to help him fight for all the different 610 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: policies that he believed in that were against the interests 611 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: of the big business and the Washington establishment was just 612 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: a thrilling adventure. But they weren't going to give up easily, 613 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: and they fought back viciously. And that that's a lot 614 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: of the topics that are covered in the book. You 615 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: did a tremendous amount of work to try to bring 616 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: peace to the Middle East, and I think you got 617 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: almost no credit for that, and I think part of 618 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: it's because of who your father in law is and 619 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: with the administration that you were in. But I was 620 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: always really impressed by it. And as part of that, 621 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: maybe the most ridiculous criticism that we heard against Trump, 622 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: which took media attention on you have three kids. I 623 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: believe you're Jewish, and I believe you're raising those three 624 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: kids as members of the Jewish faith. When you hear 625 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: that your your grand your father in law, the president 626 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: of the United States, is an awful racist, anti Semite, 627 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: which was regularly levied against him. What is that like? 628 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's not true, but it's just 629 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: such a nasty accusation. I'm curious, as someone of the 630 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: Jewish faith who was raising the grandchildren of the president 631 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: in that faith, what was that experience like? So at 632 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: first it was a little bothersome, but then it kind 633 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: of became less bothersome because you realize that those accusations 634 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: told you more about the people who were making them 635 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: than about the people they were making the accusation of right. 636 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: So I'm a big believer in finding your own truths 637 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: and that's a lot of what my adventure was, and 638 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: I write about in the book My Journey of you know, 639 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: of really exploring the different issues. But for Trump, if 640 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: you think about, you know, issues of race, you just 641 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: have to look at his policy. He was the an 642 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: amazing president for for for black Americans. He worked very 643 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: hard to pass opportunity zones to bring capital to underserved communities. 644 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: He fought for school choice to create better economic choice 645 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: choice for people in communities so they can choose to 646 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: not go to failing schools that are often in the 647 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: poorer communities. He passed criminal justice reform and prison reform, 648 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: which which were disproportionately helping the black community. And then 649 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: in addition to that, under President Trump, the black community's 650 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: wage gains were the highest, and now the inflation that's 651 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: happened under Biden is really hurting the black community. And 652 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: then from a Jewish point of view, President Trump was 653 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: very supportive of Avanca's conversion and are raising our kids 654 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: Jewish and respectful of our faith. And we did a 655 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: lot of work to combat anti Semitism. And his work 656 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: in the Middle East was truly historic. And you know, 657 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: I think that when he asked me to leave the 658 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: efforts in the Middle East, people probably thought, well, the 659 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: Middle East couldn't get any worse. If you remember, in 660 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, the Isis had to caliphate the size of Ohio, 661 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: Syria was in a civil war where five hundred thousand 662 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: people had been killed. Ran had just been given halfway 663 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: to a nuclear weapon in one hundred and fifty billion 664 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: dollars which they were using to fund has Bollah the 665 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: houthis Amas. It was an absolute disaster, and President Trump 666 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: rebuilt our alliance with Israel. He was a strong supporter 667 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 1: of the US Israel relationship. He rebuilt our alliance with 668 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: the Gulf countries who felt very betrayed, and then we 669 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: totally bucked the conventional wisdom that you had to deal 670 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: with the Palestinians in order to make progress, and he 671 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: was able to make the first peace deal in many 672 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: decades between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, and then 673 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: with Bahrain, and then with Sudan, and then with Morocco 674 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: and with Kosovo, which which really is starting the end 675 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: of the Arab Israeli conflict, which has been one of 676 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: the major courses of instability in the world over the 677 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: previous decades. So it was a historic breakthrough. It took 678 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: out of the box thinking by a very unconventional president. 679 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: And again that's why it was important for me to 680 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: write my book, because I wanted people to understand how 681 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: he thought about it differently. And you know, all the 682 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: media was criticizing the efforts every step along the way, 683 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: saying why they were wrong, saying why they would lead 684 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: to war. But President Trump did it differently and created 685 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: peace deals where nobody else was able to do that. 686 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: We're talking to Jared Kushner, senior advisor to President Trump. 687 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: The book Breaking History, a White House memoir. Do you 688 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: and Ivanca hope that he runs for president in twenty 689 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: twenty four? How would that impact your family's life. Do 690 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: you tell him, yes, you have to do it. What 691 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: sort of conversations do you guys have about potentially that choice. 692 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: So for for us, for first of all, you know, 693 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: it was an honor for us to serve and but 694 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: but it takes a big toll in the family. You know, 695 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: we've really enjoyed moving down to Miami. You know, it's 696 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: funny we were going to move back to New York 697 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: and then you know, would It was February of twenty 698 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: of twenty one, and basically New York was like Pompeii. 699 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: The schools were closed, the restaurants were closed, none of 700 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: our friends were there. So we said, let's give Florida 701 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: to try. I told Ivanka were about thirty years ahead 702 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: of schedule, but let's let's give it a shot. And 703 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: moving down there's been been a real blessing for our family. So, 704 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, being away from government where you're on the 705 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: clock twenty four to seven with a lot of serious 706 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: issues that you can't know subjugate the family. It's been 707 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: a real pleasure getting to know our children and spend 708 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: time with our children. And we've been really enjoying our 709 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: time back in the private sector doing some philanthropic work, 710 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: and that's really been our focus. With regards to President Trump, 711 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: hill help make his own decision, and you know, we're 712 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: fully supportive of him and whatever, you know, he decides 713 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: to do. But I think he's having a very hard 714 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: time watching the way that they're destroying the country economically. 715 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: The inflation is hurting the people that he was fighting 716 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 1: so hard to lift up out of poverty. Under Under Trump, 717 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: people were coming off of food stamps at record numbers, 718 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: inflation was low, wage real wage growth was really really high. 719 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: Now the inflation is eating away at the Americans who 720 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: need the relief the most. And then just on the 721 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: world stage, I mean, you never would have had a 722 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: war with Russia when Trump was in power. That the 723 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: media kept goading him and criticizing him for keeping a 724 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: good relationship with Russia. But I write in my book 725 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: about several interactions that Trump had with Punin that led 726 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: to tangible results for America. He saved our oil and 727 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: gas sector, which which quite frankly, if the Card administration 728 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: would take the shackles off of the lower gas prices 729 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: like crazy. But instead they're choosing to go and beg 730 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: or Ran in Venezuela for oil, which makes no sense 731 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: to me, and which China. I mean, they're being very 732 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: provocative with Taiwan. But for four years under President Trump, 733 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: none of that happened. So I think President Trump really 734 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: had a very unconventional foreign policy. But I think it 735 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: was a historic policy and it wasn't a rebuke of 736 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: the Democrats. It was a rebuke of the Democrats and 737 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: the Republicans who had been Washington before him, who quite frankly, 738 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: had squandered America's you know, unchallenged leadership place in the 739 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: world that they inherited starting in the late nineties. Good stuff, 740 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner. Encourage everybody to check out the book, and 741 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: we appreciate the time. Thank you, it's an honor to 742 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: be with you, and good luck with everything. All right, 743 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: we'll be back close out the hour. Next This is 744 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck Show. Don't miss a minute of 745 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: Clay Buck and get behind the scene access to special 746 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: content for members only, subscribe to C and B twenty 747 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: four seven. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show 748 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: managing out Kick stories, really important stories that we're covering 749 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: it out kick right now. Remember our friend the Finnish 750 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: Prime minister, she passed the drug test. We updated you 751 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: after the aggressive dancing videos. She just apologized because her 752 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: Instagram influencer friend took topless photos at the Finnish President's house. 753 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think this. I think this 754 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: Finnish Prime minister may be my favorite politician out there. 755 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: She's I mean, she's a handful. But I wish we 756 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: had scandals like this going on in the United States 757 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: stead of Merrick Garland sending the FBI in I wish 758 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: we were apologizing for topless photos coming out of the 759 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: White House. Maybe Bill Clinton wasn't so bad after all, 760 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: we got a bunch of people went away in here. 761 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: Let's take some of your calls Bill in Minneapolis. But obviously, 762 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: if you're just tuning in bucks out for the day 763 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: on the like I said, the wedding treadmill getting ready, 764 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: and I've been making the case for why Merrick Garland 765 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: is actually the one acting without precedent and in an 766 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous fashion for our democracy, not Donald Trump at all. 767 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: If you look at the history and lay it out, 768 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: and many of you have questions or comments that you'd 769 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: like to weigh in with. Eight hundred two A two 770 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: two eight A two is the phone number. Let's go 771 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: to Bill in Minneapolis. Up first, Bill, thanks for listening. 772 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: What you got for us? You know, Clay, with all 773 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: this efforts to destroy Trump, Well, what are these what 774 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: are these people think's going to happen if for some 775 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: reason they can keep them from running. Do they think 776 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: that just all of a sudden, We're going to give 777 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: up and go away? You know. Rush used to talk 778 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: about how the media of the elites, they would they 779 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: would bad mouth his audience and say that they're just 780 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of drones to do what Rush says, and 781 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: they say the same thing about Trump voters. But what 782 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: these fools never understand is that we are not Trump. 783 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: Trump is us. We thought, how we thought, felt, what 784 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: we felt long before Trump showed up, long before Rush 785 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: showed up and gave voice to how we feel. Trump 786 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: was the first one to fight back and call these 787 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: propagandists in the media out for who they are, to 788 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: fight back against the d state, to fight back against 789 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: DC and the swamp in other words, what every one 790 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: of us has wanted Republicans to do for decades. Trump 791 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: finally did, and now they're in the middle of destroying 792 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: this man. It's a fantastic call. Thank you Bill in 793 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: Minneapolis for that call. Bluck and I always talk about 794 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: that we feel a tremendous privilege to be able to 795 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: say exactly what we think every single day. But we 796 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: also understand end that what we're saying is not particularly unique. 797 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: It's unique in media, but it's not unique in this country. 798 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: That's why I've always said, I love the fact that 799 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: I get to do college football and go all over 800 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and go all over the SEC, and 801 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: go over the center part of the country where I 802 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: think the heartbeat of America truly is. And we recognize 803 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: that we are speaking out so often for so many 804 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: of you who don't have the opportunity to sit down 805 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: in front of a microphone like we do. We're not 806 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: saying unique things in terms of what Americans believe. We're 807 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: saying unique in terms of what media says and allows 808 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: to be discussed. And that's why this show is thriving. 809 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: That's why certainly Rush was a legend for thirty plus years, 810 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: and it's why Donald Trump got elected and why I 811 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: think there's a good chance he's going to get reelected 812 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, maybe for a third time. After all, 813 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: Let's go to Matt in Arizona. Matt, i'd said that 814 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: Bucks on the wedding treadmill. You said you were there recently. Yep, 815 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: you got married to last year in Arizona. We booked 816 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: a venue, a very nice venue, for a considerable amount 817 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: of money. After we signed the contract, then they start 818 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: sending in the builds. You want the lights on for 819 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: the event. That's gonna be an extree. Like it's like 820 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: organized crime dealing with it. Really, until you have gone 821 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: through the wedding process, it really is like the mafia. 822 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they get you. You know what what did 823 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: what did the Michael Corleone say? Every time I think 824 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm out, they get me back in Basically, I'm paraphrasing 825 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: the Godfather. They do. I mean, you're right, you signed 826 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: this contract and you're like, Okay, it's gonna be ten 827 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: k h. That's a lot of money or whatever. I know, 828 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a lot of money for most people. 829 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: But by the way, the average wedding I think is 830 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: now thirty k. I saw that the other day. Uh, 831 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: and that's just extraordinary. It's unbelievable. And you think, okay, 832 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: well there's the full cost. And then they're like, well, 833 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: do you want alcohol during your wedding? Yeah, of course, 834 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: Well that's a Do you want the alcohol to be 835 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: served throughout the wedding or do you only want the 836 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: alcohol for these couple of hours? Well do you want 837 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: do you want dinner? Yeah, of course, do what you 838 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: want steak or you I mean, it's it is unbelievable 839 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: the way that they take advantage of you. And that's 840 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: where Buck is right now fortunately Bucks well and sometimes 841 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: in downside Bucks forty now. So sometimes you can get 842 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: away with a cheaper wedding when you're young, cheaper ring. 843 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: I got engaged when I was twenty five, and so 844 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: Mary when I was twenty five. Engage when I was 845 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: twenty four. So I didn't have that much money. I 846 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 1: don't have anything. I had a negative net worth, so 847 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: I got it in a little bit cheaper than man. 848 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: If I were getting married right now, I'd be in trouble. 849 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 1: I'd be in real trouble. Bucks in trouble, just gonna 850 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: point it out there, Neil in New Jersey. What you 851 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: got for us? Four quick points? First one is the 852 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: fact they cheated. My in laws weren't overly happy, so 853 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: we eloped. The second thing into the fact you have 854 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: to remember what rescues to say it's the accusation that 855 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: counts so true. The third thing is a fact. Aren't 856 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: letters personal letters such as this normally end up in 857 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: a presidential library and they're in the hands of the 858 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: president till that time. And the fourth thing is effect? 859 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: Could this be Garland getting revenge for not being on 860 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: scotus the fantastic points. Anytime a caller says I got 861 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: four points, I get nervous. I mean, like four points 862 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: a lot, all four fantastic points. I think that Merrick 863 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: Garland may well have been radicalized to a certain extent 864 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: by not getting to sit on the Supreme Court. I 865 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: think he may have a vendetta. I think it certainly 866 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: needs to be examined in terms of his behavior in office, 867 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: particularly as it results from the man Donald Trump winning 868 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 1: the election that kept him from being able to actually 869 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: sit on the Supreme Court, which was probably his lifelong dream. 870 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: Not being the Attorney General for Joe Biden. So I 871 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: think that certainly factors in in terms of his psychological 872 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: motivation in his behavior. To your point on the presidential library, 873 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: fantastic point. A lot of these letters are not so secretive. 874 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: Many of them would have potentially ended up in a 875 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: presidential library. I don't know the exact number of them, 876 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: but I've been fortunate to be and tour through several 877 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: presidential libraries, and many of those libraries feature all sorts 878 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: of letters like these that were clearly written to the 879 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: president while he was in office. And so I think 880 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: it's a fantastic point. The idea again what they have done, 881 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: as they have allowed the media narrative to be put 882 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: out there that what Trump has done with his letters 883 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: is radical. No no, no, no no, no, that's backwards. What 884 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland is doing to try to reclaim these letters 885 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: is the radical action. That is what is changing the 886 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 1: fabric of our democracy and our country, not Donald Trump's 887 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: behavior at all. Primary day going on today in Florida 888 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: and New York and Oklahoma. I'll tell you about that 889 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: when we come back next. Where is Ronda Santas headed. 890 00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 1: Let's discuss sleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front 891 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: lines of truth,