WEBVTT - One on One: Alan Loayza

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<v Speaker 1>I Am all In, Colin, I'll kiss You.

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<v Speaker 2>I Am all In with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In. One on

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<v Speaker 1>one interview with Alan lewisea who played the role of

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<v Speaker 1>Colin McCrae and The Life and Death Brigade a Yalely

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<v Speaker 1>for fifteen episodes from two thousand and four to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six. His first appearance was in season five,

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<v Speaker 1>episode three, written in the Star's Last Appearances Season six

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<v Speaker 1>episode twenty two partings. He also appeared as Colin in

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes A Year in the Life Fall twenty and sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Colin's one of Logan's Huntsberger's best friends at Yale's a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Life and Death Brigade Yale Secret Society. Logan, Finn,

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<v Speaker 1>and Colin often go on trips, performed stunts and pranks,

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<v Speaker 1>and party together. Is usually mean and he is not,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I know, a mean guy at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>heck of an actor that don't have the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>money his family does. He is frequently seen as one

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<v Speaker 1>of Logan's sidekicks during his time at Yale, and important

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<v Speaker 1>moments in the plot of Logan's life or Rory and

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<v Speaker 1>Logan's relationship. A little bit about Allan. He was born

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. He acted first on stage in Saudi

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<v Speaker 1>Arabia at age six. We're going to find out about that.

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<v Speaker 1>In high school, he competed in speech and drama while

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<v Speaker 1>studying humanities and photography. Alan received his BFA and acting

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<v Speaker 1>from cal Arts A very very fine program at cal Arts,

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<v Speaker 1>and landed a few supporting roles in film and television,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as series regulars pilots for Fox and Warner Brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan's best known for his role on Gilmore Girls. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he's worked in film production for several commercial companies, including

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gandin's Partisan. Alan has been directing and producing branded

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<v Speaker 1>content for over five years at BuzzFeed in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>and now at the A Daddy, Scary, Mommy and Fatherly

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. And let's bring him in. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Lewisa. Alan, how are you? Thanks for coming on?

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<v Speaker 2>Good Scott, How are you doing man.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, good good? Alan? Tell us how you got into acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Acting started when I was a kid. I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in La born in Hollywood. Parents were not in the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>We were always interested in my brothers and I and

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<v Speaker 2>then and we moved to Saudi Arabia, like right away

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid. Wow, And my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>an engineer out there, he's an engineer. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>there with a bunch of British companies and American people

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<v Speaker 2>and we had our own little community. And they start

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<v Speaker 2>theater and I saw my brothers do Oliver Twist with

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<v Speaker 2>this amazing director that was out there, and come to

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<v Speaker 2>realize it was one of the better productions that I

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<v Speaker 2>had seen throughout my life moving on, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little stupid, you know, community theater in Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 2>And so that was that was kind of the bug

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<v Speaker 2>right there. And then went to cal Arts after college,

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<v Speaker 2>after high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Cal Arts was.

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<v Speaker 2>My this was my this was my high school. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a humanities magnet, my drama teacher there was amazing

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<v Speaker 2>agree and uh. And then went to went to cal

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<v Speaker 2>Arts and that was kind of it. And after graduating

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<v Speaker 2>cal Arts just kind of that was that was the

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<v Speaker 2>w b ars And and I looked I always looked young,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they were sending me out on all these

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<v Speaker 2>teen roles and stuff, and that was kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were some of your classmates of cal Arts because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very prestigious uh program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, My buddy Banked Anderson is actually a big

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<v Speaker 2>wig over at Discovery right now. He's an EP over there.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's funny is I actually did a play called

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<v Speaker 2>Peach Blossom Fan years later. This was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>the center of New Theater is what they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pull off over at cal Arts in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>an outside theater group. And they were auditioning alumni and

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<v Speaker 2>I was already out I think like three years or

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<v Speaker 2>four years at that point. So I ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>this part. And in the chorus was Cecily Strong and

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<v Speaker 2>Alison Brie as chorus members, and those were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at cal Arts. They were years behind me, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I met a group of I met that group. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>who else was there in my class specifically? There was

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Amanda Teppi. She did some General Hospital

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<v Speaker 2>and and some Disney Channel stuff. There's yeah, there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a few people in and out of there, a all

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<v Speaker 2>all over throughout the years that are like working all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think Tom ch and a bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was at my showcase. He came to like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of coach us through our showcase year, which is

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<v Speaker 2>basically like your your last year there, and you put

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<v Speaker 2>together a scene to audition for all the agents and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. So it was kind of like gearing

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<v Speaker 2>us up to get out into the real world and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully get representation.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's not a lot of pressure, is auditioning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of like a you know, it's as

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<v Speaker 2>much pressure as like, you know, like a studio test

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like, what the hell you know now that goes?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us how you got the role of Colin. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about the whole process of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mara and Jamie they they knew my managers at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a general meeting and sat down with

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<v Speaker 2>them at their office and Warner Brothers, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shot it and we're talking and vibed right

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<v Speaker 2>away and it was like, okay, let's just do this.

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<v Speaker 2>So she just after that meeting, it was like every

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<v Speaker 2>guy role that had come out I was auditioning for

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<v Speaker 2>and auditioning for. And then you know, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a few years after a while, I was just like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's like I need it. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like two years of auditioning. I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of getting over coming out to meet these

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<v Speaker 2>meet the producers all the time. And the last role

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, we don't know how long the

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<v Speaker 2>the show's going to last. We got to get Alan

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<v Speaker 2>in there on something, you know, that conversation was happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I went in and it was for Collin

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<v Speaker 2>and he's kind of an ass. You know, he's an

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<v Speaker 2>ass and he's very like pompous and was like the

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<v Speaker 2>meaning to to Marty and the first scene there and

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<v Speaker 2>that was like the audition scene, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was you know, I walk in and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like hey, Alan, and you know, they know your

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<v Speaker 2>first name and I've never worked for them, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like hi, Amy, and I was just like what's up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like okay, let's let's just do this. And

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<v Speaker 2>then they're like perfect. That was it. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>energy that we need it, you know, for Colin. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of how it started. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>then it kind of snowballed out. I think we were

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<v Speaker 2>only supposed to do three episodes and just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gelled right, and it was like a different energy from

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<v Speaker 2>the show. What the show had had before, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know Amy was having fun writing for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you were just burnt. You were burnt out

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, didn't care. Let's just do this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, at that point just drops You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, right, you know, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You were just real, you were just like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>do this. And you know, it's interesting because that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I did in mind meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't because I had met them. I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>met any of them. I was just so tired of

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<v Speaker 1>auditioning and and really nailing stuff and not getting the offer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like it was like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years in a row of that. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I walked into that room and I was so

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<v Speaker 1>jaded and burnt out, and I didn't care. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I you know, I wasn't being an

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<v Speaker 1>ass up to them. I was just like, hey, what's up,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? All right, let's do this, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get to just get through I'm

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<v Speaker 1>illigally parked outside, so can we just get through this?

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<v Speaker 1>And they immediately responded, they were like finally somebody. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody comes in and they're nervous or they're

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<v Speaker 1>kissing ass too much and they don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they like to say all the right things

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, you know, you're trying to guess what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and all they're looking for is the vibe

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<v Speaker 2>of the character, right like this, this has to be

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe that is going to be living in this

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<v Speaker 2>world the whole time. And you know, like what happened

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<v Speaker 2>on mine too, where it was like, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care what oh yeah, you look, yeah, your shirt's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was something demeaning about the shirt or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like that was it. I was like, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care, that's it. But yeah, I mean some

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<v Speaker 2>of our best work we're in all of those auditions, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes like before leading up to it, where

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<v Speaker 2>were like people will never see this, and I nailed

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<v Speaker 2>it out of the park. But you just got to

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<v Speaker 2>keep going. And then after a while you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, it's like running for office, man, You got

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<v Speaker 1>a campaign and get the votes, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Takes time to get the votes, get and take the

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<v Speaker 2>hits as you keep going, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, oh yeah, oh yeah, so obviously you had seen

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<v Speaker 1>the show before you auditioned, right, Were you aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the show before you auditioned or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Very aware of the show, right, barely watched the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my twenties, right, and that show wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>geared towards young dudes in their twenties. It just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew of the show, and I had auditioned

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, knew it was like the Fast Talking and

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<v Speaker 2>actually had done a pilot with Jared. So they had

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<v Speaker 2>done a young mcgiver in between him getting Supernatural and

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<v Speaker 2>being on Gilmore, and they were trying to get him

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<v Speaker 2>on a show, and they had we shot a pilot

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<v Speaker 2>where he played young mcgiver, the nephew of mcguy. Was

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<v Speaker 2>that script, and I was his best butt in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jared and I became buds for a good you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two years. We were hanging out all the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>then after that I had done this random pilot promo

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<v Speaker 2>presentation through some writers and producers that were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>pitch a show to networks, and we went out and

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<v Speaker 2>this is when people started to actually shoot those things

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<v Speaker 2>instead of just sending a pilot script, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we went and shot it, and Milo and I

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<v Speaker 2>played best friends in that thing I had actually known Jared.

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<v Speaker 2>I played Jared's best friend and something, Milo's best friend

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<v Speaker 2>and something, And then on Gilmore, I ended up playing

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<v Speaker 2>Matt's best friend, which is like I'm always like the

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<v Speaker 2>best friends of all of her boyfriends throughout like different

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<v Speaker 2>parts of my career, which is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, there you go, you found a niche. So what

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<v Speaker 1>was it like working so closely with Matt and Alexis?

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<v Speaker 2>Those two are great, They have good energy, They're just

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<v Speaker 2>great people. You know. Alexis, you know, is like like

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<v Speaker 2>a like a mouse, so you know, it's very like

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<v Speaker 2>quiet mousey. And but when we were on set, especially

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<v Speaker 2>with UH, with Tanking and and Nick and like some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other guys, it was like, oh, it was

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<v Speaker 2>this like energy that was there that wasn't there before,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, And that's that's kind of what they were

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<v Speaker 2>telling us, you know a lot. And so Alexis like

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<v Speaker 2>really ended up vibing with all of us, and we

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<v Speaker 2>would we had some like get togethers outside of work

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<v Speaker 2>a few times with just the four of us, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going to like hang out at her house.

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<v Speaker 2>One time she had a little get together that was nice,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's she's just so sweet. She's she's a sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's always been so kind to me. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like that was always like we had like a we

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<v Speaker 2>had like this we're both like we're both like blue eyed,

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<v Speaker 2>light skin people with family from South and Central America.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like kind of our vibe that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, you're one of you're one of those. Okay,

0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.400
<v Speaker 2>so on mine, you know, I think we went and

0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.959
<v Speaker 2>had Cuban food once together. That was that was fun.

0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.880
<v Speaker 2>And Matt is just like he's such a good actor

0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's like really like what I like about Matt's

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<v Speaker 2>He reminds me of like when I did I did

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<v Speaker 2>speech and debate, you know, back in my high school

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<v Speaker 2>years also, and those were years full of like people

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the walls and like just working on their

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<v Speaker 2>bits and getting it right and just trying trying to

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<v Speaker 2>say it this way and that when you see them

0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.800
<v Speaker 2>talking to themselves in the corner, and you know, I

0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>remember Matt was doing a lot of that when we

0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.040
<v Speaker 2>were just like happy to be on a set and

0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, hanging out and you know, having a job

0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and you know, doing some fun stuff together and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt had obviously a much bigger responsibility on that

0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.800
<v Speaker 2>on that show than we did, you know where he

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<v Speaker 2>just really wanted to get all of those beats right

0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.440
<v Speaker 2>with her and the scenes that they had together. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was always something that I really admired about Matt

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<v Speaker 2>and just reminded me of like, yeah, that's that discipline,

0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, and he shows it, you know, he shows

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<v Speaker 2>it pays.

0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Off, he really does. He was very smooth with his delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very quick, but doesn't seem rushed. Yeah. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's top top drawer, Yeah, for.

0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Sure, a top chef actor there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really good, he really is. So give us some

0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.880
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes moments that you remember.

0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Behind the scenes stuff, you know. The revival was really

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun for us. They had us doing

0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.720
<v Speaker 2>some some really cool stuff with like I mean, I

0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.440
<v Speaker 2>showed up. They had that that crane going up to

0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the third floor of you know to shoot us golfing

0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.360
<v Speaker 2>on top of Stars Hollow there and and we were

0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.440
<v Speaker 2>having a blast. I remember, we were just having too

0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.600
<v Speaker 2>much fun running around on that. They put us in

0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:53.320
<v Speaker 2>that car to to drive down the back of Forest

0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Lawn there the steakbed truck with you know, smoke coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. They were trying to make the whole

0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:06.839
<v Speaker 2>street into a fall East Coast town and and and

0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.760
<v Speaker 2>we were looking at the budget. That Netflix budget was

0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.320
<v Speaker 2>definitely different than that that WB budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was big, way, bigger, way bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we were just all slack jobs that whole shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were had We had a great time. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember actually this episode, uh you jump I jump Jack

0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.600
<v Speaker 2>was it was like a sweep sweek episode. So they

0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.120
<v Speaker 2>spent all kinds of time and money reshooting. We had

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<v Speaker 2>to reschedule things that you know they get you know

0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 2>those days. Yeah, I'm sure you remember those days. It

0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>was like you know, they were it was just jam packed.

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<v Speaker 2>And but that was tons of extra, tons of costumes,

0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.000
<v Speaker 2>just tons of stuff everywhere. And and we were up

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<v Speaker 2>at Griffith Park one night just playing guitar and hanging

0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.800
<v Speaker 2>out and being you know, just being like we did

0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a scene in the beginning. They said we'll get to

0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.920
<v Speaker 2>your scene later. They never touched us for the rest

0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.480
<v Speaker 2>of the day, like we'll get back to you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're like, okay, great. But we had like our

0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.400
<v Speaker 2>own little campfire out there and it was fun. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of.

0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you get to jump off the platform?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at the bottom with the top hat. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's like, you guys got to do it. You know,

0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm that guy. So I didn't do it. But what's

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<v Speaker 2>cool is like seeing really kind of surreal about all

0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.920
<v Speaker 2>of that is that this show is such a staple

0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>for everybody. You know, all the fans are still clearly

0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.000
<v Speaker 2>here and they only just get bigger. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>over the years that you like, the fans don't ever

0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.600
<v Speaker 2>drop it, but then their kids start liking it, and

0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then those kids started growing up, and

0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that that episode seeing umbrellas, seeing you know, Innomnia Paratus

0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:56.760
<v Speaker 2>tattooed on people, is that was definitely an eye opener

0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.360
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, this is a you know, this is

0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a very special thing this show. This show is special

0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:02.560
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people. Here.

0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Magical episode, absolutely magic and I'm finding this uh uh

0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:12.160
<v Speaker 1>rory discovering and you know, walking through this portal into

0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Logan's world is the best storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been watching it, right, You've been watching it, like

0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:20.200
<v Speaker 2>rewatching it.

0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it, so this is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>so I watch an episode before we we do a podcast. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's fresh.

0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did. I did that recently too. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really something. Uh, It's it's just given the

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<v Speaker 1>whole new life to this show. Yeah, big energy with

0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:50.680
<v Speaker 1>this show, with this stuff. So what did you love

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<v Speaker 1>about playing Colin?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I like playing mean people. It's fun. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just I'm always I'm always trying to

0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.680
<v Speaker 2>be pleasant around people. I don't like to like rock

0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.639
<v Speaker 2>the boat too much, you know, when I'm in a

0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.080
<v Speaker 2>group of people. But playing that is just like, ah,

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I get to do this now and I have like

0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a free pass to be this guy. I think that's

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.840
<v Speaker 2>like the most fun. And what's what's kind of funny

0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to me also is that I've become very defensive for

0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, characters in the world and other shows and

0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff that you see people really hate that actor and

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.679
<v Speaker 2>they really get on them, and and I've always thought, like,

0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.720
<v Speaker 2>they did it, they did the job. Otherwise, if you

0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.399
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel that way, there's no show.

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:41.400
<v Speaker 1>There's no show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, your extreme love for the for the protagonists

0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.800
<v Speaker 2>and your extreme hate for this person means they did

0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.840
<v Speaker 2>exactly what it was, and I felt like, you know,

0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.600
<v Speaker 2>there's there was that you know, that aspect of him.

0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.639
<v Speaker 2>They didn't need him to be such a villain, but

0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Colin doesn't need to be such a villain,

0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.680
<v Speaker 2>but he's you know, he's written as an ass and

0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.760
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, playing pompous rich dudes is a lot

0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.920
<v Speaker 2>of fun to play, you know, just so much fun.

0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 2>They're oblivious to how rude they are, and there's a

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of that. I think that was a lot of

0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.080
<v Speaker 2>the fun with them is that they weren't the brightest

0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 2>guys either, you know. They they were just you know,

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.680
<v Speaker 2>just a few notches below Rory and Logan in terms

0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 2>of in terms of like that extreme you know, understanding

0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:27.720
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, right.

0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>So they were like thirteen fifty thirteen seventy five, sat going.

0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, parents, clearly, right, clearly, you know they have the

0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.320
<v Speaker 2>references because they have like you know, the just the

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>family experience of being around that stuff. Sure they have that,

0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.680
<v Speaker 2>but that's like just by just by you know, by

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.399
<v Speaker 2>being around it, you know, but it's not something that

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 2>they would have sought out on their own. And they

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 2>really don't don't strive in it, that's for sure. Yeah,

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.600
<v Speaker 2>they were always a little like dim witted when it

0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.200
<v Speaker 2>came to something more so thin, more so tanks character,

0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.800
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely like, boy, yeah, we've got to watch out

0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:02.520
<v Speaker 2>for him. You know.

0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.440
<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite episode to film?

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:10.959
<v Speaker 2>You know what was? There was a we had a

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 2>poker game that we had to play. I don't think

0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you've got gotten to that yet. There's a poker scene

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.159
<v Speaker 2>we just we just played poker with a crane hanging

0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:27.560
<v Speaker 2>over us for the day and and just guys and

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're all there and eventually the conversation start

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.280
<v Speaker 2>breaking into relationship t M I stuff and you know,

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.399
<v Speaker 2>all the all those things when we're like, you know,

0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.239
<v Speaker 2>we've been on set for six hours. We're getting personal here,

0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.359
<v Speaker 2>let's do it, you know, and we're like talking about

0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.520
<v Speaker 2>like old old flames and things like that. That was

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.480
<v Speaker 2>a good That was a lot of fun. You jump

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I jump Jack was great because we got to play

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.919
<v Speaker 2>at at that Disney ranch up in Santa Clarita and

0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 2>just being on location and you know, some cool places

0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:00.640
<v Speaker 2>like that. But I don't know that that revi though.

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.560
<v Speaker 2>We did a lot of cool stuff with that revival.

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, So, when did you hear about the revival and

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:10.399
<v Speaker 1>how they approach you.

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I was waiting for it to eventually happened, because I

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 2>remember I was tracking the Gilmore life after you know,

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, before Netflix, before they even made it to Netflix,

0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.680
<v Speaker 2>because we started to see all these shows coming onto

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>onto Netflix, and we're like, okay, they're they're now bringing

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>back these old shows that we love. Where the heck

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.159
<v Speaker 2>is Gilmour, Like that's a that's a giant you know,

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>cult following there. What are you doing, guys, You're you're

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 2>wasting time here? And then eventually Gilmore came out, and

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 2>then the Internet kind of blew up and Twitter kind

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of blew up with old episodes of Gilmore and all

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the memes and and gifts and all of that and

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.920
<v Speaker 2>then and so I was like, okay, that's great, saw

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:06.120
<v Speaker 2>that interview from from ATX right and was thinking, Okay,

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 2>they're really thinking about it, and then I heard that Okay,

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.280
<v Speaker 2>they're doing it. I had no idea how big they

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 2>were going to make it. Were they going to bring

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.159
<v Speaker 2>every character back, or were they you know, on a

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:22.600
<v Speaker 2>very specific track of a storyline or what. So I

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.200
<v Speaker 2>was kind of expecting something, but realized maybe they don't

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 2>bring us back. They didn't bring us back for season seven. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't do any season seven episodes. I

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.159
<v Speaker 2>did five and six, and then they skipped over. So

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, maybe maybe they will, maybe they won't.

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think I got it after I was

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:45.439
<v Speaker 2>hearing that it was greenlit for maybe about two or

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 2>three weeks, maybe about a month then and then I

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 2>got the call, and that was like, that was a

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of man, that call. That call was great, wasn't it.

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.719
<v Speaker 2>It's just like so nice to be able to go

0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.199
<v Speaker 2>play again. And then they had all the toys they

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 2>had all.

0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Had, They had a lot of equipment. I mean we

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:07.239
<v Speaker 1>basically shot four films. We shot four films. I mean

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it was it was so much equipment and so much

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>technology brought to bear, so much on that. Yeah, it was.

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.639
<v Speaker 1>It was so when you meet fans, uh, what is

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>what is the common question that they ask you?

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>A common question from fans, Oh, that's a good question.

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I think they're more I think they're more interested in

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:32.120
<v Speaker 2>just trying to figure out me, because Colin is such

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>a such a specific type of person, you know, and

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I actually I'm stumped on that one.

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 2>What they they're normally just asking like, oh, what's it

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 2>like with with Matt and do you still talk to

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the guys? I think that's kind of the main main thing.

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And we do still chat every once in a blue moon.

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Matt less, so he's very busy. He's you know, he's

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:59.120
<v Speaker 2>off doing some some cool stuff. Nick and and Tank

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and I every once in a blue moon will get

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>on a group chat responding to something that we read

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But I haven't seen those guys

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 2>in a while. Nick, I've seen I saw last about

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 2>two years ago.

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Covid, what what are you working on now?

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Right now? I'm writing, I'm writing. I was doing a

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of production work for some companies in house. I

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 2>was like eping on some like commercial work for companies.

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I was doing branded content over at BuzzFeed for a

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 2>few years there and kind of took over running production

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 2>at a company in New York for about two years

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 2>during the pandemic. That was crazy. Did it in San

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Diego for about a year and a half. I did.

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>We did a Super Bowl commercial and that was amazing,

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 2>and Olympics commercial, you know, so I've been I've been

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of behind the scenes and then just

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>did some production just now. So I'm writing right now

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>right now. With that writer strike, you know, solidarity to

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody right now, you know, for the right, but you know,

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>now's the time to kind of get my scripts together

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>and kind of pick.

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stockpile them. Yeah, good time. Yeah, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a lengthy Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll happen volumes of scripts by the time it's done,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully hopefully not.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the studios will get their AI scripts all

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<v Speaker 1>lined up and they'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Get their robot writers and then we'll be and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be all done.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting how AI is going to just really start to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the hornet's nest of copyright infringement is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big legal issue going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I think it's like, I think it's such

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting thing. You know, people need to get on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously clearly in Congress they got it. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to get on it and have these conversations, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But like there's that that conversation about like rhymes. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it said, you know, she's okay with people making

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<v Speaker 2>songs as long as they split it fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's the right deal, but like

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<v Speaker 2>there's something there where it's like, oh, she stopped singing

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. People know her voice. She's going to make

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<v Speaker 2>money on you creations with her voice. Weird, But like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, is that something that's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>you know versus. But then the writers. I worry about

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<v Speaker 2>the writers where it's like, you know, you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>get a concept from somebody or from you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>AI or vice versa. Then you know, ask AI or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to punch it up where it's like it should

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<v Speaker 2>be cultivated. We'll see, We'll see how the writing goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because again I think human hands need to touch that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, scary Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Scary AI is not sentient, so it's not sentient. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to get the heart and soul from?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know that I can't fake it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think it's going to eventually have to

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<v Speaker 2>come to, is like you need you still need a

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<v Speaker 2>human editor. With all that chat GPT stuff that's happening,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could release some of that and some people

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>will buy into it as like filler content. But like

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<v Speaker 2>the really like real media kind of like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>human human and human connection, and I think it still

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<v Speaker 2>needs a little bit of some human hands editing it,

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well know the game is up when the awards

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<v Speaker 1>ceremonies have categories for Best AI Screenplay, Best AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Actor, Best Platform to write a script. Yeah, oh man, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're gonna do We're gonna do something

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<v Speaker 1>called rapid fire. Now, I'm just gonna throw some questions

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>at you and please just answer to the best of

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<v Speaker 1>your ability. How do you like your coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>A cold brew black? Sometimes I'm in the mood for

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>a splash of something and some sugar, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually Are you a team Logan, Jess or Dean?

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's always been a contentious one. I am Team Logan.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Who is your favorite Gilmore girls couple?

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<v Speaker 1>Luke and Lorelei or Richard and Emily, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Luke and Laurli. Yeah you Hey Scott, Scott, Scott, you

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<v Speaker 2>killed it in that that revival At the end there

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen, I thought, is like, that was like

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<v Speaker 2>so well done. So it really hit me in the

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>chest so hard. I was like, Scott did his damn

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 2>thing on that scene. I just wanted to tell you.

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I never got to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>That, but I appreciate that.

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was. That was I mean, it was such

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<v Speaker 2>a culmination of the entire series, and you nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really really thought you did a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>There, man, Thank you. I there was a lot of

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 1>pressure on that one. I knew what it was and

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>what it represented, so it was like, yeah, got got

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it delivered. So thank you. I appreciate that. What would

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you order at Luke's Diner?

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>What would I order?

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>What would you order?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Whatever Caesar made?

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Jackson or Taylor for town Selectmen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Taylor's just so fun to hate, right, So I

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:05.959
<v Speaker 2>think I agree.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree, he's the perfect guy. Yeah, you love him

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and you hate him at the same time. Would you

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>rather listen to Hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs?

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Sorry, Hep, but the Troubadour cups are really good.

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>They were pretty good.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>They were. Yeah, Grantly Phillips, He's amazing, Harvard or Yale?

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<v Speaker 2>Duh, Yale?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing the car her boyfriend built

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>for her or sleeping with her ex who is married

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>who happened to be the same person. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it is car Crasher being part of an

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>adulterous affair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably that second one, even though even though the

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>audience wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Yeah right, I.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Mean we wanted them to get back together, we know

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 2>that they are meant for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an observation.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's I mean, Gilmore did a lot

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>of that, I feel like, yeah, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the appeal of the show is that it

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't It wasn't perfect. Nothing was perfect. Everything always had

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of some cracks to it or a

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>big crack to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's an interesting statement because that cause that

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<v Speaker 1>when we did that, we did that podcast, it caused

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of controversy.

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh yeah. People have a lot of mixed opinions

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>about Oh.

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>They sure do, and we heard all of them. Who

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>from Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>a desert island with.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh or character? Oh Taylor, Uh, that would be one.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>That would be one. I'm trying to think of somebody

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>worse than that. Yeah, I think now, I think I

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>think he's the one that kind of irks me in

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>terms of that, Like I wouldn't want to be stuck

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>on a night of that.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I always thought it would be Paris, But then if

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, Paris could probably figure out a

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>way to get you out of there.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Paris wins Survivor, right if she was on the show Survivor,

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>she would have won it, Like she would have manipulated everybody,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>figured out some fire.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>She's a schemer. She's a schamer. All right. So something

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>in your life that you are all in.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>On, something I'm all in on is right now. It's

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 2>my family. Like I've been, I've been vibing on the whole.

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, COVID was a thing, and you know, having

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like some some you know, some dramas happened and trauma's happened,

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>and you know, family members and all that. That's kind

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>of been my My thing lately has been like really

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>like kind of connecting again with with my family a lot.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of what I'm I'm all I'm all

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>in right now with my family. That's probably like a

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>safer answer, I think more fun answer would be I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of all in on Star Wars lately. It's not Gilmour,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>but that's kind of been my geeky little side escape.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I've kind of kind of been watching that stuff, so,

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, grew up with it, and they're doing some

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>cool stuff lately, so that's kind of kind of a

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a my side, my side a little

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>all in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good too. Well, it's been it's been fun. So

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I ever met you on set,

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>but so it's been nice meeting you and catching up

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and talking with you. I appreciate your time, and I

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate you having me and you know, there's more

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>episodes to come. This Life and Death Brigade is it's

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>just fun to watch, wonderful watch you guys.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Bring it, bring me back if you want. I'll break

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>down some other things in those episodes. I like. I

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>when I had to watch the show, I did a

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>binge and I got really into characters and their their

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>arcs and you know, some fan meetings, we've talked about

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff a lot, so I get into it.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me know, good deal, man. Yeah, I'll say, yeah,

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we'll have you back on at some point. Anyway, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much, thank you to ever to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>and all the best, and uh, we'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm gonna go get some coffee right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Go pick.

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<v Speaker 1>There, you go, buddy, Take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care.

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