Speaker 1: I Am all In, Colin, I'll kiss You.
Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In. One on
Speaker 1: one interview with Alan lewisea who played the role of
Speaker 1: Colin McCrae and The Life and Death Brigade a Yalely
Speaker 1: for fifteen episodes from two thousand and four to two
Speaker 1: thousand and six. His first appearance was in season five,
Speaker 1: episode three, written in the Star's Last Appearances Season six
Speaker 1: episode twenty two partings. He also appeared as Colin in
Speaker 1: the episodes A Year in the Life Fall twenty and sixteen.
Speaker 1: Colin's one of Logan's Huntsberger's best friends at Yale's a
Speaker 1: member of the Life and Death Brigade Yale Secret Society. Logan, Finn,
Speaker 1: and Colin often go on trips, performed stunts and pranks,
Speaker 1: and party together. Is usually mean and he is not,
Speaker 1: from what I know, a mean guy at all. So
Speaker 1: heck of an actor that don't have the kind of
Speaker 1: money his family does. He is frequently seen as one
Speaker 1: of Logan's sidekicks during his time at Yale, and important
Speaker 1: moments in the plot of Logan's life or Rory and
Speaker 1: Logan's relationship. A little bit about Allan. He was born
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. He acted first on stage in Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia at age six. We're going to find out about that.
Speaker 1: In high school, he competed in speech and drama while
Speaker 1: studying humanities and photography. Alan received his BFA and acting
Speaker 1: from cal Arts A very very fine program at cal Arts,
Speaker 1: and landed a few supporting roles in film and television,
Speaker 1: as well as series regulars pilots for Fox and Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1: Alan's best known for his role on Gilmore Girls. However,
Speaker 1: he's worked in film production for several commercial companies, including
Speaker 1: Michael Gandin's Partisan. Alan has been directing and producing branded
Speaker 1: content for over five years at BuzzFeed in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and now at the A Daddy, Scary, Mommy and Fatherly
Speaker 1: in New York City. And let's bring him in. Here's
Speaker 1: Alan Lewisa. Alan, how are you? Thanks for coming on?
Speaker 2: Good Scott, How are you doing man.
Speaker 1: Good, good good? Alan? Tell us how you got into acting.
Speaker 2: Acting started when I was a kid. I grew up
Speaker 2: in La born in Hollywood. Parents were not in the industry.
Speaker 2: We were always interested in my brothers and I and
Speaker 2: then and we moved to Saudi Arabia, like right away
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. Wow, And my dad was
Speaker 2: an engineer out there, he's an engineer. And we were
Speaker 2: there with a bunch of British companies and American people
Speaker 2: and we had our own little community. And they start
Speaker 2: theater and I saw my brothers do Oliver Twist with
Speaker 2: this amazing director that was out there, and come to
Speaker 2: realize it was one of the better productions that I
Speaker 2: had seen throughout my life moving on, and it was
Speaker 2: a little stupid, you know, community theater in Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 2: And so that was that was kind of the bug
Speaker 2: right there. And then went to cal Arts after college,
Speaker 2: after high school.
Speaker 1: Cal Arts was.
Speaker 2: My this was my this was my high school. There
Speaker 2: was a humanities magnet, my drama teacher there was amazing
Speaker 2: agree and uh. And then went to went to cal
Speaker 2: Arts and that was kind of it. And after graduating
Speaker 2: cal Arts just kind of that was that was the
Speaker 2: w b ars And and I looked I always looked young,
Speaker 2: and so they were sending me out on all these
Speaker 2: teen roles and stuff, and that was kind of the
Speaker 2: beginning of it.
Speaker 1: Who were some of your classmates of cal Arts because
Speaker 1: it's a very prestigious uh program.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, My buddy Banked Anderson is actually a big
Speaker 2: wig over at Discovery right now. He's an EP over there.
Speaker 2: But what's funny is I actually did a play called
Speaker 2: Peach Blossom Fan years later. This was kind of a
Speaker 2: the center of New Theater is what they were trying
Speaker 2: to pull off over at cal Arts in terms of
Speaker 2: an outside theater group. And they were auditioning alumni and
Speaker 2: I was already out I think like three years or
Speaker 2: four years at that point. So I ended up getting
Speaker 2: this part. And in the chorus was Cecily Strong and
Speaker 2: Alison Brie as chorus members, and those were you know,
Speaker 2: at cal Arts. They were years behind me, and so
Speaker 2: I met a group of I met that group. Also,
Speaker 2: who else was there in my class specifically? There was
Speaker 2: a woman named Amanda Teppi. She did some General Hospital
Speaker 2: and and some Disney Channel stuff. There's yeah, there's been
Speaker 2: a few people in and out of there, a all
Speaker 2: all over throughout the years that are like working all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think Tom ch and a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was at my showcase. He came to like
Speaker 2: kind of coach us through our showcase year, which is
Speaker 2: basically like your your last year there, and you put
Speaker 2: together a scene to audition for all the agents and
Speaker 2: all of that. So it was kind of like gearing
Speaker 2: us up to get out into the real world and
Speaker 2: hopefully get representation.
Speaker 1: And that's that's not a lot of pressure, is auditioning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a you know, it's as
Speaker 2: much pressure as like, you know, like a studio test
Speaker 2: where you're like, what the hell you know now that goes?
Speaker 1: Tell us how you got the role of Colin. Tell
Speaker 1: us about the whole process of it.
Speaker 2: Mara and Jamie they they knew my managers at the time,
Speaker 2: and I got a general meeting and sat down with
Speaker 2: them at their office and Warner Brothers, and we just
Speaker 2: kind of shot it and we're talking and vibed right
Speaker 2: away and it was like, okay, let's just do this.
Speaker 2: So she just after that meeting, it was like every
Speaker 2: guy role that had come out I was auditioning for
Speaker 2: and auditioning for. And then you know, it was like
Speaker 2: a few years after a while, I was just like okay,
Speaker 2: let's let's like I need it. You know, it was
Speaker 2: like two years of auditioning. I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of getting over coming out to meet these
Speaker 2: meet the producers all the time. And the last role
Speaker 2: was like, you know, we don't know how long the
Speaker 2: the show's going to last. We got to get Alan
Speaker 2: in there on something, you know, that conversation was happening,
Speaker 2: and so I went in and it was for Collin
Speaker 2: and he's kind of an ass. You know, he's an
Speaker 2: ass and he's very like pompous and was like the
Speaker 2: meaning to to Marty and the first scene there and
Speaker 2: that was like the audition scene, and it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I was you know, I walk in and
Speaker 2: they're like hey, Alan, and you know, they know your
Speaker 2: first name and I've never worked for them, and you're
Speaker 2: like hi, Amy, and I was just like what's up,
Speaker 2: you know, like okay, let's let's just do this. And
Speaker 2: then they're like perfect. That was it. That was the
Speaker 2: energy that we need it, you know, for Colin. And
Speaker 2: that was kind of how it started. And then and
Speaker 2: then it kind of snowballed out. I think we were
Speaker 2: only supposed to do three episodes and just kind of
Speaker 2: gelled right, and it was like a different energy from
Speaker 2: the show. What the show had had before, I guess,
Speaker 2: and you know Amy was having fun writing for it.
Speaker 1: So so you were just burnt. You were burnt out
Speaker 1: at this point, didn't care. Let's just do this, right,
Speaker 1: let's oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, at that point just drops You're like,
Speaker 2: all right, right, you know, let's do it.
Speaker 1: You were just real, you were just like, let's just
Speaker 1: do this. And you know, it's interesting because that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I did in mind meeting.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't because I had met them. I'd never
Speaker 1: met any of them. I was just so tired of
Speaker 1: auditioning and and really nailing stuff and not getting the offer.
Speaker 1: And I was just like it was like a couple
Speaker 1: of years in a row of that. I was just
Speaker 1: like I walked into that room and I was so
Speaker 1: jaded and burnt out, and I didn't care. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and I you know, I wasn't being an
Speaker 1: ass up to them. I was just like, hey, what's up,
Speaker 1: how you doing? All right, let's do this, so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get to just get through I'm
Speaker 1: illigally parked outside, so can we just get through this?
Speaker 1: And they immediately responded, they were like finally somebody. I think.
Speaker 1: I think everybody comes in and they're nervous or they're
Speaker 1: kissing ass too much and they don't like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they like to say all the right things
Speaker 2: and be like, you know, you're trying to guess what
Speaker 2: it is, and all they're looking for is the vibe
Speaker 2: of the character, right like this, this has to be
Speaker 2: the vibe that is going to be living in this
Speaker 2: world the whole time. And you know, like what happened
Speaker 2: on mine too, where it was like, all right, I
Speaker 2: don't care what oh yeah, you look, yeah, your shirt's fine.
Speaker 2: It was something demeaning about the shirt or something, and
Speaker 2: it was like that was it. I was like, but
Speaker 2: I don't care, that's it. But yeah, I mean some
Speaker 2: of our best work we're in all of those auditions, right,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes like before leading up to it, where
Speaker 2: were like people will never see this, and I nailed
Speaker 2: it out of the park. But you just got to
Speaker 2: keep going. And then after a while you're.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, it's like running for office, man, You got
Speaker 1: a campaign and get the votes, and it.
Speaker 2: Takes time to get the votes, get and take the
Speaker 2: hits as you keep going, you.
Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah, oh yeah, so obviously you had seen
Speaker 1: the show before you auditioned, right, Were you aware of
Speaker 1: the show before you auditioned or no?
Speaker 2: Very aware of the show, right, barely watched the show.
Speaker 2: I was in my twenties, right, and that show wasn't
Speaker 2: geared towards young dudes in their twenties. It just wasn't.
Speaker 2: And I knew of the show, and I had auditioned
Speaker 2: a lot, knew it was like the Fast Talking and
Speaker 2: actually had done a pilot with Jared. So they had
Speaker 2: done a young mcgiver in between him getting Supernatural and
Speaker 2: being on Gilmore, and they were trying to get him
Speaker 2: on a show, and they had we shot a pilot
Speaker 2: where he played young mcgiver, the nephew of mcguy. Was
Speaker 2: that script, and I was his best butt in it,
Speaker 2: and Jared and I became buds for a good you know,
Speaker 2: two years. We were hanging out all the time. And
Speaker 2: then after that I had done this random pilot promo
Speaker 2: presentation through some writers and producers that were trying to
Speaker 2: pitch a show to networks, and we went out and
Speaker 2: this is when people started to actually shoot those things
Speaker 2: instead of just sending a pilot script, you know. And
Speaker 2: so we went and shot it, and Milo and I
Speaker 2: played best friends in that thing I had actually known Jared.
Speaker 2: I played Jared's best friend and something, Milo's best friend
Speaker 2: and something, And then on Gilmore, I ended up playing
Speaker 2: Matt's best friend, which is like I'm always like the
Speaker 2: best friends of all of her boyfriends throughout like different
Speaker 2: parts of my career, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Wow, there you go, you found a niche. So what
Speaker 1: was it like working so closely with Matt and Alexis?
Speaker 2: Those two are great, They have good energy, They're just
Speaker 2: great people. You know. Alexis, you know, is like like
Speaker 2: a like a mouse, so you know, it's very like
Speaker 2: quiet mousey. And but when we were on set, especially
Speaker 2: with UH, with Tanking and and Nick and like some
Speaker 2: of the other guys, it was like, oh, it was
Speaker 2: this like energy that was there that wasn't there before,
Speaker 2: I guess, And that's that's kind of what they were
Speaker 2: telling us, you know a lot. And so Alexis like
Speaker 2: really ended up vibing with all of us, and we
Speaker 2: would we had some like get togethers outside of work
Speaker 2: a few times with just the four of us, or
Speaker 2: you know, going to like hang out at her house.
Speaker 2: One time she had a little get together that was nice,
Speaker 2: and she's she's just so sweet. She's she's a sweetheart,
Speaker 2: and she's always been so kind to me. You know,
Speaker 2: like that was always like we had like a we
Speaker 2: had like this we're both like we're both like blue eyed,
Speaker 2: light skin people with family from South and Central America.
Speaker 2: Is like kind of our vibe that, you know, we
Speaker 2: were like, oh, you're one of you're one of those. Okay,
Speaker 2: so on mine, you know, I think we went and
Speaker 2: had Cuban food once together. That was that was fun.
Speaker 2: And Matt is just like he's such a good actor
Speaker 2: and he's like really like what I like about Matt's
Speaker 2: He reminds me of like when I did I did
Speaker 2: speech and debate, you know, back in my high school
Speaker 2: years also, and those were years full of like people
Speaker 2: talking to the walls and like just working on their
Speaker 2: bits and getting it right and just trying trying to
Speaker 2: say it this way and that when you see them
Speaker 2: talking to themselves in the corner, and you know, I
Speaker 2: remember Matt was doing a lot of that when we
Speaker 2: were just like happy to be on a set and
Speaker 2: you know, hanging out and you know, having a job
Speaker 2: and you know, doing some fun stuff together and you know,
Speaker 2: and Matt had obviously a much bigger responsibility on that
Speaker 2: on that show than we did, you know where he
Speaker 2: just really wanted to get all of those beats right
Speaker 2: with her and the scenes that they had together. So
Speaker 2: that was always something that I really admired about Matt
Speaker 2: and just reminded me of like, yeah, that's that discipline,
Speaker 2: you know, and he shows it, you know, he shows
Speaker 2: it pays.
Speaker 1: Off, he really does. He was very smooth with his delivery.
Speaker 1: He's very quick, but doesn't seem rushed. Yeah. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's top top drawer, Yeah, for.
Speaker 2: Sure, a top chef actor there.
Speaker 1: He's really good, he really is. So give us some
Speaker 1: behind the scenes moments that you remember.
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes stuff, you know. The revival was really
Speaker 2: a lot of fun for us. They had us doing
Speaker 2: some some really cool stuff with like I mean, I
Speaker 2: showed up. They had that that crane going up to
Speaker 2: the third floor of you know to shoot us golfing
Speaker 2: on top of Stars Hollow there and and we were
Speaker 2: having a blast. I remember, we were just having too
Speaker 2: much fun running around on that. They put us in
Speaker 2: that car to to drive down the back of Forest
Speaker 2: Lawn there the steakbed truck with you know, smoke coming
Speaker 2: out of it. They were trying to make the whole
Speaker 2: street into a fall East Coast town and and and
Speaker 2: we were looking at the budget. That Netflix budget was
Speaker 2: definitely different than that that WB budget.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was big, way, bigger, way bigger.
Speaker 2: I think we were just all slack jobs that whole shoot.
Speaker 2: But we were had We had a great time. I
Speaker 2: remember actually this episode, uh you jump I jump Jack
Speaker 2: was it was like a sweep sweek episode. So they
Speaker 2: spent all kinds of time and money reshooting. We had
Speaker 2: to reschedule things that you know they get you know
Speaker 2: those days. Yeah, I'm sure you remember those days. It
Speaker 2: was like you know, they were it was just jam packed.
Speaker 2: And but that was tons of extra, tons of costumes,
Speaker 2: just tons of stuff everywhere. And and we were up
Speaker 2: at Griffith Park one night just playing guitar and hanging
Speaker 2: out and being you know, just being like we did
Speaker 2: a scene in the beginning. They said we'll get to
Speaker 2: your scene later. They never touched us for the rest
Speaker 2: of the day, like we'll get back to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And we're like, okay, great. But we had like our
Speaker 2: own little campfire out there and it was fun. It
Speaker 2: was a lot of.
Speaker 1: Did you did you get to jump off the platform?
Speaker 2: I'm at the bottom with the top hat. I'm the
Speaker 2: guy that's like, you guys got to do it. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm that guy. So I didn't do it. But what's
Speaker 2: cool is like seeing really kind of surreal about all
Speaker 2: of that is that this show is such a staple
Speaker 2: for everybody. You know, all the fans are still clearly
Speaker 2: here and they only just get bigger. It feels like
Speaker 2: over the years that you like, the fans don't ever
Speaker 2: drop it, but then their kids start liking it, and
Speaker 2: you know, and then those kids started growing up, and
Speaker 2: that that episode seeing umbrellas, seeing you know, Innomnia Paratus
Speaker 2: tattooed on people, is that was definitely an eye opener
Speaker 2: of like, oh, this is a you know, this is
Speaker 2: a very special thing this show. This show is special
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. Here.
Speaker 1: Magical episode, absolutely magic and I'm finding this uh uh
Speaker 1: rory discovering and you know, walking through this portal into
Speaker 1: Logan's world is the best storyline.
Speaker 2: You've been watching it, right, You've been watching it, like
Speaker 2: rewatching it.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, so this is the first time
Speaker 1: so I watch an episode before we we do a podcast. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's fresh.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I did that recently too. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: It's a great storyline.
Speaker 1: It's it's really something. Uh, It's it's just given the
Speaker 1: whole new life to this show. Yeah, big energy with
Speaker 1: this show, with this stuff. So what did you love
Speaker 1: about playing Colin?
Speaker 2: Oh? I like playing mean people. It's fun. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just I'm always I'm always trying to
Speaker 2: be pleasant around people. I don't like to like rock
Speaker 2: the boat too much, you know, when I'm in a
Speaker 2: group of people. But playing that is just like, ah,
Speaker 2: I get to do this now and I have like
Speaker 2: a free pass to be this guy. I think that's
Speaker 2: like the most fun. And what's what's kind of funny
Speaker 2: to me also is that I've become very defensive for
Speaker 2: you know, characters in the world and other shows and
Speaker 2: stuff that you see people really hate that actor and
Speaker 2: they really get on them, and and I've always thought, like,
Speaker 2: they did it, they did the job. Otherwise, if you
Speaker 2: didn't feel that way, there's no show.
Speaker 1: There's no show.
Speaker 2: You know, your extreme love for the for the protagonists
Speaker 2: and your extreme hate for this person means they did
Speaker 2: exactly what it was, and I felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's there was that you know, that aspect of him.
Speaker 2: They didn't need him to be such a villain, but
Speaker 2: you know, like Colin doesn't need to be such a villain,
Speaker 2: but he's you know, he's written as an ass and
Speaker 2: he's you know, playing pompous rich dudes is a lot
Speaker 2: of fun to play, you know, just so much fun.
Speaker 2: They're oblivious to how rude they are, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of that. I think that was a lot of
Speaker 2: the fun with them is that they weren't the brightest
Speaker 2: guys either, you know. They they were just you know,
Speaker 2: just a few notches below Rory and Logan in terms
Speaker 2: of in terms of like that extreme you know, understanding
Speaker 2: and like, you know, right.
Speaker 1: So they were like thirteen fifty thirteen seventy five, sat going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, parents, clearly, right, clearly, you know they have the
Speaker 2: references because they have like you know, the just the
Speaker 2: family experience of being around that stuff. Sure they have that,
Speaker 2: but that's like just by just by you know, by
Speaker 2: being around it, you know, but it's not something that
Speaker 2: they would have sought out on their own. And they
Speaker 2: really don't don't strive in it, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were always a little like dim witted when it
Speaker 2: came to something more so thin, more so tanks character,
Speaker 2: it's definitely like, boy, yeah, we've got to watch out
Speaker 2: for him. You know.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite episode to film?
Speaker 2: You know what was? There was a we had a
Speaker 2: poker game that we had to play. I don't think
Speaker 2: you've got gotten to that yet. There's a poker scene
Speaker 2: we just we just played poker with a crane hanging
Speaker 2: over us for the day and and just guys and
Speaker 2: you know, we're all there and eventually the conversation start
Speaker 2: breaking into relationship t M I stuff and you know,
Speaker 2: all the all those things when we're like, you know,
Speaker 2: we've been on set for six hours. We're getting personal here,
Speaker 2: let's do it, you know, and we're like talking about
Speaker 2: like old old flames and things like that. That was
Speaker 2: a good That was a lot of fun. You jump
Speaker 2: I jump Jack was great because we got to play
Speaker 2: at at that Disney ranch up in Santa Clarita and
Speaker 2: just being on location and you know, some cool places
Speaker 2: like that. But I don't know that that revi though.
Speaker 2: We did a lot of cool stuff with that revival.
Speaker 1: Right, So, when did you hear about the revival and
Speaker 1: how they approach you.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for it to eventually happened, because I
Speaker 2: remember I was tracking the Gilmore life after you know,
Speaker 2: you know, before Netflix, before they even made it to Netflix,
Speaker 2: because we started to see all these shows coming onto
Speaker 2: onto Netflix, and we're like, okay, they're they're now bringing
Speaker 2: back these old shows that we love. Where the heck
Speaker 2: is Gilmour, Like that's a that's a giant you know,
Speaker 2: cult following there. What are you doing, guys, You're you're
Speaker 2: wasting time here? And then eventually Gilmore came out, and
Speaker 2: then the Internet kind of blew up and Twitter kind
Speaker 2: of blew up with old episodes of Gilmore and all
Speaker 2: the memes and and gifts and all of that and
Speaker 2: then and so I was like, okay, that's great, saw
Speaker 2: that interview from from ATX right and was thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: they're really thinking about it, and then I heard that Okay,
Speaker 2: they're doing it. I had no idea how big they
Speaker 2: were going to make it. Were they going to bring
Speaker 2: every character back, or were they you know, on a
Speaker 2: very specific track of a storyline or what. So I
Speaker 2: was kind of expecting something, but realized maybe they don't
Speaker 2: bring us back. They didn't bring us back for season seven. Really,
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't do any season seven episodes. I
Speaker 2: did five and six, and then they skipped over. So
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, maybe maybe they will, maybe they won't.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I got it after I was
Speaker 2: hearing that it was greenlit for maybe about two or
Speaker 2: three weeks, maybe about a month then and then I
Speaker 2: got the call, and that was like, that was a
Speaker 2: lot of man, that call. That call was great, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: It's just like so nice to be able to go
Speaker 2: play again. And then they had all the toys they
Speaker 2: had all.
Speaker 1: Had, They had a lot of equipment. I mean we
Speaker 1: basically shot four films. We shot four films. I mean
Speaker 1: it was it was so much equipment and so much
Speaker 1: technology brought to bear, so much on that. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was so when you meet fans, uh, what is
Speaker 1: what is the common question that they ask you?
Speaker 2: A common question from fans, Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: I think they're more I think they're more interested in
Speaker 2: just trying to figure out me, because Colin is such
Speaker 2: a such a specific type of person, you know, and
Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually I'm stumped on that one.
Speaker 2: What they they're normally just asking like, oh, what's it
Speaker 2: like with with Matt and do you still talk to
Speaker 2: the guys? I think that's kind of the main main thing.
Speaker 2: And we do still chat every once in a blue moon.
Speaker 2: Matt less, so he's very busy. He's you know, he's
Speaker 2: off doing some some cool stuff. Nick and and Tank
Speaker 2: and I every once in a blue moon will get
Speaker 2: on a group chat responding to something that we read
Speaker 2: or something like that. But I haven't seen those guys
Speaker 2: in a while. Nick, I've seen I saw last about
Speaker 2: two years ago.
Speaker 1: But you know, Covid, what what are you working on now?
Speaker 2: Right now? I'm writing, I'm writing. I was doing a
Speaker 2: lot of production work for some companies in house. I
Speaker 2: was like eping on some like commercial work for companies.
Speaker 2: I was doing branded content over at BuzzFeed for a
Speaker 2: few years there and kind of took over running production
Speaker 2: at a company in New York for about two years
Speaker 2: during the pandemic. That was crazy. Did it in San
Speaker 2: Diego for about a year and a half. I did.
Speaker 2: We did a Super Bowl commercial and that was amazing,
Speaker 2: and Olympics commercial, you know, so I've been I've been
Speaker 2: doing a lot of behind the scenes and then just
Speaker 2: did some production just now. So I'm writing right now
Speaker 2: right now. With that writer strike, you know, solidarity to
Speaker 2: everybody right now, you know, for the right, but you know,
Speaker 2: now's the time to kind of get my scripts together
Speaker 2: and kind of pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stockpile them. Yeah, good time. Yeah, it might be
Speaker 1: a lengthy Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll happen volumes of scripts by the time it's done,
Speaker 2: hopefully hopefully not.
Speaker 1: And then the studios will get their AI scripts all
Speaker 1: lined up and they'll.
Speaker 2: Get their robot writers and then we'll be and we'll
Speaker 2: be all done.
Speaker 1: Interesting how AI is going to just really start to
Speaker 1: you know, the hornet's nest of copyright infringement is going
Speaker 1: to be a big legal issue going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it's like, I think it's such
Speaker 2: an interesting thing. You know, people need to get on it.
Speaker 2: And obviously clearly in Congress they got it. They have
Speaker 2: to get on it and have these conversations, you know.
Speaker 2: But like there's that that conversation about like rhymes. I
Speaker 2: think it said, you know, she's okay with people making
Speaker 2: songs as long as they split it fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right deal, but like
Speaker 2: there's something there where it's like, oh, she stopped singing
Speaker 2: years ago. People know her voice. She's going to make
Speaker 2: money on you creations with her voice. Weird, But like
Speaker 2: I don't know, is that something that's going to happen
Speaker 2: you know versus. But then the writers. I worry about
Speaker 2: the writers where it's like, you know, you know, they'll
Speaker 2: get a concept from somebody or from you know, from
Speaker 2: AI or vice versa. Then you know, ask AI or
Speaker 2: somebody to punch it up where it's like it should
Speaker 2: be cultivated. We'll see, We'll see how the writing goes.
Speaker 2: Because again I think human hands need to touch that stuff.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, scary Scott.
Speaker 1: Scary AI is not sentient, so it's not sentient. Where
Speaker 1: are they going to get the heart and soul from?
Speaker 2: I think you know that I can't fake it. That's
Speaker 2: That's what I think it's going to eventually have to
Speaker 2: come to, is like you need you still need a
Speaker 2: human editor. With all that chat GPT stuff that's happening,
Speaker 2: Like you could release some of that and some people
Speaker 2: will buy into it as like filler content. But like
Speaker 2: the really like real media kind of like you know,
Speaker 2: human human and human connection, and I think it still
Speaker 2: needs a little bit of some human hands editing it,
Speaker 2: looking at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well know the game is up when the awards
Speaker 1: ceremonies have categories for Best AI Screenplay, Best AI.
Speaker 2: Actor, Best Platform to write a script. Yeah, oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna do We're gonna do something
Speaker 1: called rapid fire. Now, I'm just gonna throw some questions
Speaker 1: at you and please just answer to the best of
Speaker 1: your ability. How do you like your coffee?
Speaker 2: A cold brew black? Sometimes I'm in the mood for
Speaker 2: a splash of something and some sugar, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Usually Are you a team Logan, Jess or Dean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always been a contentious one. I am Team Logan.
Speaker 1: There you go. Who is your favorite Gilmore girls couple?
Speaker 1: Luke and Lorelei or Richard and Emily, No.
Speaker 2: Luke and Laurli. Yeah you Hey Scott, Scott, Scott, you
Speaker 2: killed it in that that revival At the end there
Speaker 2: in the kitchen, I thought, is like, that was like
Speaker 2: so well done. So it really hit me in the
Speaker 2: chest so hard. I was like, Scott did his damn
Speaker 2: thing on that scene. I just wanted to tell you.
Speaker 2: I never got to tell you.
Speaker 1: That, but I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was I mean, it was such
Speaker 2: a culmination of the entire series, and you nailed it.
Speaker 2: I really really thought you did a great job.
Speaker 1: There, man, Thank you. I there was a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on that one. I knew what it was and
Speaker 1: what it represented, so it was like, yeah, got got
Speaker 1: it delivered. So thank you. I appreciate that. What would
Speaker 1: you order at Luke's Diner?
Speaker 2: What would I order?
Speaker 1: What would you order?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Whatever Caesar made?
Speaker 1: Jackson or Taylor for town Selectmen?
Speaker 2: Oh, Taylor's just so fun to hate, right, So I
Speaker 2: think I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree, he's the perfect guy. Yeah, you love him
Speaker 1: and you hate him at the same time. Would you
Speaker 1: rather listen to Hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry, Hep, but the Troubadour cups are really good.
Speaker 2: They were pretty good.
Speaker 1: They were. Yeah, Grantly Phillips, He's amazing, Harvard or Yale?
Speaker 2: Duh, Yale?
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing the car her boyfriend built
Speaker 1: for her or sleeping with her ex who is married
Speaker 1: who happened to be the same person. So what do
Speaker 1: you think it is car Crasher being part of an
Speaker 1: adulterous affair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably that second one, even though even though the
Speaker 2: audience wanted.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean we wanted them to get back together, we know
Speaker 2: that they are meant for each other.
Speaker 1: That is an observation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I mean, Gilmore did a lot
Speaker 2: of that, I feel like, yeah, and I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of the appeal of the show is that it
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't perfect. Nothing was perfect. Everything always had
Speaker 2: a little bit of some cracks to it or a
Speaker 2: big crack to it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's an interesting statement because that cause that
Speaker 1: when we did that, we did that podcast, it caused
Speaker 1: a lot of controversy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah. People have a lot of mixed opinions
Speaker 2: about Oh.
Speaker 1: They sure do, and we heard all of them. Who
Speaker 1: from Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on
Speaker 1: a desert island with.
Speaker 2: Oh or character? Oh Taylor, Uh, that would be one.
Speaker 2: That would be one. I'm trying to think of somebody
Speaker 2: worse than that. Yeah, I think now, I think I
Speaker 2: think he's the one that kind of irks me in
Speaker 2: terms of that, Like I wouldn't want to be stuck
Speaker 2: on a night of that.
Speaker 1: I always thought it would be Paris, But then if
Speaker 1: you think about it, Paris could probably figure out a
Speaker 1: way to get you out of there.
Speaker 2: Paris wins Survivor, right if she was on the show Survivor,
Speaker 2: she would have won it, Like she would have manipulated everybody,
Speaker 2: figured out some fire.
Speaker 1: She's a schemer. She's a schamer. All right. So something
Speaker 1: in your life that you are all in.
Speaker 2: On, something I'm all in on is right now. It's
Speaker 2: my family. Like I've been, I've been vibing on the whole.
Speaker 2: You know, COVID was a thing, and you know, having
Speaker 2: like some some you know, some dramas happened and trauma's happened,
Speaker 2: and you know, family members and all that. That's kind
Speaker 2: of been my My thing lately has been like really
Speaker 2: like kind of connecting again with with my family a lot.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I'm I'm all I'm all
Speaker 2: in right now with my family. That's probably like a
Speaker 2: safer answer, I think more fun answer would be I'm
Speaker 2: kind of all in on Star Wars lately. It's not Gilmour,
Speaker 2: but that's kind of been my geeky little side escape.
Speaker 2: I've kind of kind of been watching that stuff, so,
Speaker 2: you know, grew up with it, and they're doing some
Speaker 2: cool stuff lately, so that's kind of kind of a
Speaker 2: little bit of a my side, my side a little
Speaker 2: all in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good too. Well, it's been it's been fun. So
Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever met you on set,
Speaker 1: but so it's been nice meeting you and catching up
Speaker 1: and talking with you. I appreciate your time, and I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you having me and you know, there's more
Speaker 1: episodes to come. This Life and Death Brigade is it's
Speaker 1: just fun to watch, wonderful watch you guys.
Speaker 2: Bring it, bring me back if you want. I'll break
Speaker 2: down some other things in those episodes. I like. I
Speaker 2: when I had to watch the show, I did a
Speaker 2: binge and I got really into characters and their their
Speaker 2: arcs and you know, some fan meetings, we've talked about
Speaker 2: stuff a lot, so I get into it.
Speaker 1: Let me know, good deal, man. Yeah, I'll say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll have you back on at some point. Anyway, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much, thank you to ever to talk to you
Speaker 1: and all the best, and uh, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm gonna go get some coffee right now.
Speaker 2: Go pick.
Speaker 1: There, you go, buddy, Take care.
Speaker 2: Take care.
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