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Speaker 1: I Am all In, Colin, I'll kiss You.

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Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In. One on

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Speaker 1: one interview with Alan lewisea who played the role of

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Speaker 1: Colin McCrae and The Life and Death Brigade a Yalely

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Speaker 1: for fifteen episodes from two thousand and four to two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six. His first appearance was in season five,

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Speaker 1: episode three, written in the Star's Last Appearances Season six

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Speaker 1: episode twenty two partings. He also appeared as Colin in

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Speaker 1: the episodes A Year in the Life Fall twenty and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Colin's one of Logan's Huntsberger's best friends at Yale's a

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Speaker 1: member of the Life and Death Brigade Yale Secret Society. Logan, Finn,

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Speaker 1: and Colin often go on trips, performed stunts and pranks,

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Speaker 1: and party together. Is usually mean and he is not,

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Speaker 1: from what I know, a mean guy at all. So

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Speaker 1: heck of an actor that don't have the kind of

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Speaker 1: money his family does. He is frequently seen as one

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Speaker 1: of Logan's sidekicks during his time at Yale, and important

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Speaker 1: moments in the plot of Logan's life or Rory and

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Speaker 1: Logan's relationship. A little bit about Allan. He was born

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. He acted first on stage in Saudi

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Speaker 1: Arabia at age six. We're going to find out about that.

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Speaker 1: In high school, he competed in speech and drama while

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Speaker 1: studying humanities and photography. Alan received his BFA and acting

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Speaker 1: from cal Arts A very very fine program at cal Arts,

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Speaker 1: and landed a few supporting roles in film and television,

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Speaker 1: as well as series regulars pilots for Fox and Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Alan's best known for his role on Gilmore Girls. However,

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Speaker 1: he's worked in film production for several commercial companies, including

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Speaker 1: Michael Gandin's Partisan. Alan has been directing and producing branded

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Speaker 1: content for over five years at BuzzFeed in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: and now at the A Daddy, Scary, Mommy and Fatherly

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Speaker 1: in New York City. And let's bring him in. Here's

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Speaker 1: Alan Lewisa. Alan, how are you? Thanks for coming on?

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Speaker 2: Good Scott, How are you doing man.

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Speaker 1: Good, good good? Alan? Tell us how you got into acting.

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Speaker 2: Acting started when I was a kid. I grew up

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Speaker 2: in La born in Hollywood. Parents were not in the industry.

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Speaker 2: We were always interested in my brothers and I and

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Speaker 2: then and we moved to Saudi Arabia, like right away

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Speaker 2: when I was a kid. Wow, And my dad was

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Speaker 2: an engineer out there, he's an engineer. And we were

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Speaker 2: there with a bunch of British companies and American people

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Speaker 2: and we had our own little community. And they start

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Speaker 2: theater and I saw my brothers do Oliver Twist with

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Speaker 2: this amazing director that was out there, and come to

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Speaker 2: realize it was one of the better productions that I

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Speaker 2: had seen throughout my life moving on, and it was

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Speaker 2: a little stupid, you know, community theater in Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 2: And so that was that was kind of the bug

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Speaker 2: right there. And then went to cal Arts after college,

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Speaker 2: after high school.

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Speaker 1: Cal Arts was.

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Speaker 2: My this was my this was my high school. There

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Speaker 2: was a humanities magnet, my drama teacher there was amazing

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Speaker 2: agree and uh. And then went to went to cal

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Speaker 2: Arts and that was kind of it. And after graduating

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Speaker 2: and so they were sending me out on all these

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Speaker 1: Who were some of your classmates of cal Arts because

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Speaker 1: it's a very prestigious uh program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, My buddy Banked Anderson is actually a big

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Speaker 2: wig over at Discovery right now. He's an EP over there.

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Speaker 2: But what's funny is I actually did a play called

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Speaker 2: Peach Blossom Fan years later. This was kind of a

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Speaker 2: I was already out I think like three years or

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Speaker 2: this part. And in the chorus was Cecily Strong and

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Speaker 2: I met a group of I met that group. Also,

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Speaker 2: a woman named Amanda Teppi. She did some General Hospital

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think Tom ch and a bunch of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was at my showcase. He came to like

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Speaker 1: And that's that's not a lot of pressure, is auditioning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a you know, it's as

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Speaker 1: Tell us how you got the role of Colin. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about the whole process of it.

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Speaker 2: Mara and Jamie they they knew my managers at the time,

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Speaker 2: and I got a general meeting and sat down with

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Speaker 2: and he's kind of an ass. You know, he's an

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Speaker 2: they're like hey, Alan, and you know, they know your

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Speaker 2: like hi, Amy, and I was just like what's up,

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Speaker 1: So so you were just burnt. You were burnt out

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Speaker 1: at this point, didn't care. Let's just do this, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, at that point just drops You're like,

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Speaker 1: You were just real, you were just like, let's just

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't because I had met them. I'd never

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Speaker 1: And I was just like it was like a couple

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Speaker 1: And they immediately responded, they were like finally somebody. I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they like to say all the right things

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Speaker 1: Like, Okay, it's like running for office, man, You got

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Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah, oh yeah, so obviously you had seen

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Speaker 2: Very aware of the show, right, barely watched the show.

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Speaker 2: I was in my twenties, right, and that show wasn't

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Speaker 2: I played Jared's best friend and something, Milo's best friend

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Speaker 1: Wow, there you go, you found a niche. So what

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Speaker 1: was it like working so closely with Matt and Alexis?

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Speaker 2: Those two are great, They have good energy, They're just

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Speaker 2: on a group chat responding to something that we read

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Speaker 2: or something like that. But I haven't seen those guys

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Speaker 2: in a while. Nick, I've seen I saw last about

435
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Speaker 2: two years ago.

436
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Speaker 1: But you know, Covid, what what are you working on now?

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Speaker 2: Right now? I'm writing, I'm writing. I was doing a

438
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Speaker 2: lot of production work for some companies in house. I

439
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: was like eping on some like commercial work for companies.

440
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Speaker 2: I was doing branded content over at BuzzFeed for a

441
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Speaker 2: few years there and kind of took over running production

442
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Speaker 2: at a company in New York for about two years

443
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Speaker 2: during the pandemic. That was crazy. Did it in San

444
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Speaker 2: Diego for about a year and a half. I did.

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Speaker 2: We did a Super Bowl commercial and that was amazing,

446
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Speaker 2: and Olympics commercial, you know, so I've been I've been

447
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Speaker 2: doing a lot of behind the scenes and then just

448
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Speaker 2: did some production just now. So I'm writing right now

449
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Speaker 2: right now. With that writer strike, you know, solidarity to

450
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Speaker 2: everybody right now, you know, for the right, but you know,

451
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Speaker 2: now's the time to kind of get my scripts together

452
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Speaker 2: and kind of pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stockpile them. Yeah, good time. Yeah, it might be

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Speaker 1: a lengthy Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: We'll happen volumes of scripts by the time it's done,

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Speaker 2: hopefully hopefully not.

457
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Speaker 1: And then the studios will get their AI scripts all

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Speaker 1: lined up and they'll.

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Speaker 2: Get their robot writers and then we'll be and we'll

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Speaker 2: be all done.

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Speaker 1: Interesting how AI is going to just really start to

462
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Speaker 1: you know, the hornet's nest of copyright infringement is going

463
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Speaker 1: to be a big legal issue going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it's like, I think it's such

465
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Speaker 2: an interesting thing. You know, people need to get on it.

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Speaker 2: And obviously clearly in Congress they got it. They have

467
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Speaker 2: to get on it and have these conversations, you know.

468
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Speaker 2: But like there's that that conversation about like rhymes. I

469
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: think it said, you know, she's okay with people making

470
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Speaker 2: songs as long as they split it fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right deal, but like

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Speaker 2: there's something there where it's like, oh, she stopped singing

473
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Speaker 2: years ago. People know her voice. She's going to make

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Speaker 2: money on you creations with her voice. Weird, But like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, is that something that's going to happen

476
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Speaker 2: you know versus. But then the writers. I worry about

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Speaker 2: the writers where it's like, you know, you know, they'll

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Speaker 2: get a concept from somebody or from you know, from

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Speaker 2: AI or vice versa. Then you know, ask AI or

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Speaker 2: somebody to punch it up where it's like it should

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Speaker 2: be cultivated. We'll see, We'll see how the writing goes.

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Speaker 2: Because again I think human hands need to touch that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, scary Scott.

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Speaker 1: Scary AI is not sentient, so it's not sentient. Where

485
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Speaker 1: are they going to get the heart and soul from?

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Speaker 2: I think you know that I can't fake it. That's

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Speaker 2: That's what I think it's going to eventually have to

488
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Speaker 2: come to, is like you need you still need a

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Speaker 2: human editor. With all that chat GPT stuff that's happening,

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Speaker 2: Like you could release some of that and some people

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Speaker 2: will buy into it as like filler content. But like

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Speaker 2: the really like real media kind of like you know,

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Speaker 2: human human and human connection, and I think it still

494
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Speaker 2: needs a little bit of some human hands editing it,

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Speaker 2: looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well know the game is up when the awards

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Speaker 1: ceremonies have categories for Best AI Screenplay, Best AI.

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Speaker 2: Actor, Best Platform to write a script. Yeah, oh man, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna do We're gonna do something

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Speaker 1: called rapid fire. Now, I'm just gonna throw some questions

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00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: at you and please just answer to the best of

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Speaker 1: your ability. How do you like your coffee?

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Speaker 2: A cold brew black? Sometimes I'm in the mood for

504
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: a splash of something and some sugar, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Usually Are you a team Logan, Jess or Dean?

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00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always been a contentious one. I am Team Logan.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Who is your favorite Gilmore girls couple?

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Speaker 1: Luke and Lorelei or Richard and Emily, No.

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Speaker 2: Luke and Laurli. Yeah you Hey Scott, Scott, Scott, you

510
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: killed it in that that revival At the end there

511
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: in the kitchen, I thought, is like, that was like

512
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: so well done. So it really hit me in the

513
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: chest so hard. I was like, Scott did his damn

514
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: thing on that scene. I just wanted to tell you.

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00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: I never got to tell you.

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Speaker 1: That, but I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was I mean, it was such

518
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Speaker 2: a culmination of the entire series, and you nailed it.

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00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: I really really thought you did a great job.

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Speaker 1: There, man, Thank you. I there was a lot of

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00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: pressure on that one. I knew what it was and

522
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: what it represented, so it was like, yeah, got got

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Speaker 1: it delivered. So thank you. I appreciate that. What would

524
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Speaker 1: you order at Luke's Diner?

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Speaker 2: What would I order?

526
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: What would you order?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Whatever Caesar made?

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Speaker 1: Jackson or Taylor for town Selectmen?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Taylor's just so fun to hate, right, So I

530
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Speaker 2: think I agree.

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Speaker 1: I agree, he's the perfect guy. Yeah, you love him

532
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: and you hate him at the same time. Would you

533
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: rather listen to Hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs?

534
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry, Hep, but the Troubadour cups are really good.

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00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: They were pretty good.

536
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: They were. Yeah, Grantly Phillips, He's amazing, Harvard or Yale?

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Speaker 2: Duh, Yale?

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00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: There you go.

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00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing the car her boyfriend built

541
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Speaker 1: for her or sleeping with her ex who is married

542
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Speaker 1: who happened to be the same person. So what do

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Speaker 1: you think it is car Crasher being part of an

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Speaker 1: adulterous affair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably that second one, even though even though the

546
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: audience wanted.

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00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: It, Yeah right, I.

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00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: Mean we wanted them to get back together, we know

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Speaker 2: that they are meant for each other.

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Speaker 1: That is an observation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I mean, Gilmore did a lot

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00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: of that, I feel like, yeah, and I think that's

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00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: kind of the appeal of the show is that it

554
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't perfect. Nothing was perfect. Everything always had

555
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of some cracks to it or a

556
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: big crack to it.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's an interesting statement because that cause that

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Speaker 1: when we did that, we did that podcast, it caused

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Speaker 1: a lot of controversy.

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah. People have a lot of mixed opinions

561
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: about Oh.

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00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: They sure do, and we heard all of them. Who

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Speaker 1: from Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on

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Speaker 1: a desert island with.

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Speaker 2: Oh or character? Oh Taylor, Uh, that would be one.

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00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: That would be one. I'm trying to think of somebody

567
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: worse than that. Yeah, I think now, I think I

568
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: think he's the one that kind of irks me in

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Speaker 2: terms of that, Like I wouldn't want to be stuck

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Speaker 2: on a night of that.

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Speaker 1: I always thought it would be Paris, But then if

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00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: you think about it, Paris could probably figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to get you out of there.

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Speaker 2: Paris wins Survivor, right if she was on the show Survivor,

575
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: she would have won it, Like she would have manipulated everybody,

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00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: figured out some fire.

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Speaker 1: She's a schemer. She's a schamer. All right. So something

578
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: in your life that you are all in.

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Speaker 2: On, something I'm all in on is right now. It's

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Speaker 2: my family. Like I've been, I've been vibing on the whole.

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00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: You know, COVID was a thing, and you know, having

582
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: like some some you know, some dramas happened and trauma's happened,

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00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: and you know, family members and all that. That's kind

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00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: of been my My thing lately has been like really

585
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: like kind of connecting again with with my family a lot.

586
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I'm I'm all I'm all

587
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: in right now with my family. That's probably like a

588
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: safer answer, I think more fun answer would be I'm

589
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: kind of all in on Star Wars lately. It's not Gilmour,

590
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: but that's kind of been my geeky little side escape.

591
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: I've kind of kind of been watching that stuff, so,

592
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, grew up with it, and they're doing some

593
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: cool stuff lately, so that's kind of kind of a

594
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: little bit of a my side, my side a little

595
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: all in.

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00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, good too. Well, it's been it's been fun. So

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00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever met you on set,

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00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: but so it's been nice meeting you and catching up

599
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: and talking with you. I appreciate your time, and I

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00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: really appreciate you having me and you know, there's more

601
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: episodes to come. This Life and Death Brigade is it's

602
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: just fun to watch, wonderful watch you guys.

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00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: Bring it, bring me back if you want. I'll break

604
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: down some other things in those episodes. I like. I

605
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: when I had to watch the show, I did a

606
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: binge and I got really into characters and their their

607
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: arcs and you know, some fan meetings, we've talked about

608
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: stuff a lot, so I get into it.

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Speaker 1: Let me know, good deal, man. Yeah, I'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll have you back on at some point. Anyway, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much, thank you to ever to talk to you

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Speaker 1: and all the best, and uh, we'll see you next time.

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00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm gonna go get some coffee right now.

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Speaker 2: Go pick.

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Speaker 1: There, you go, buddy, Take care.

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Speaker 2: Take care.

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Speaker 1: Scott here. All right, hey everybody, and don't forget Follow

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