Speaker 1: Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Cianna Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten, and.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched
Speaker 1: every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies
Speaker 1: of All Time, the very slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary edition,
Speaker 1: and are now watching the films that people might consider
Speaker 1: great American films.
Speaker 2: Now. This podcast is a safe sisterhood for people who
Speaker 2: don't know anything about movies. Today, we're watching Little Women
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. You're the rudest boy I ever saw. Warning
Speaker 2: there will be spoilers about this. Not that American old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe my major gripe.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you love when there's Americans. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is the one place I'm proud
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: It's it is weird because it's like, why, well, Sienna,
Speaker 2: may I please play you in my prediction? Yes? For
Speaker 2: little Please do okay careful because I am Okay, Hi, Sienna,
Speaker 2: It's Leanna. I'm about to watch Little Women twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I've seen this before. I saw it. I think possibly
Speaker 2: I saw this on Thanksgiving Day. Oh sorry, that's the
Speaker 2: fridge rat in the background, fridge rat. I predict Christmas vibes. Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't think the plot's gonna be surprise TiO Chalomey
Speaker 2: at angles that little twink and sorry, Sir Sharonan saying women,
Speaker 2: Florence Pugh being evil in a perfay, Emma Watson is
Speaker 2: there and Beth dies love you bye.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know now the moment where she says women, women, yes, women, Well, Leanna,
Speaker 1: shall we listen to my prediction for Little Women twenty Yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: Hi Leanna, this is CNI. I'm about to watch the
Speaker 1: newer Little Women, so I now know what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: in Little Women. But based on some of your reactions
Speaker 1: last time, I wonder if they've changed things around or
Speaker 1: if there are different versions like renditions.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, So I'll be interested to see what's different.
Speaker 1: I sure hope that I haven't imprinted too much on
Speaker 1: that last movie, which I loved so much. I predict
Speaker 1: this one will be blonder. I predict it will be
Speaker 1: a blonder version. And yes, that's because I know some
Speaker 1: of the actors. But the vibes just feel pastel and blonde,
Speaker 1: not derogatory.
Speaker 2: And just honestly, thank you for clarifying. Yeah, just I
Speaker 2: love you, goodbye? I see okay, yes, okay, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess we.
Speaker 1: Should just read the book soon because I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is the story?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that. What I mean, what is this?
Speaker 2: We've seen it twice?
Speaker 1: I know, but there are certain moments where you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: which who was actually doing the one from the book
Speaker 1: since they can kind of change it around, you know, like, oh, sure,
Speaker 1: small things about the timing of it anyway, so hilarious
Speaker 1: to refuse to read this book. I will never read
Speaker 1: Little Women.
Speaker 2: I am not doing that. I just feel like I've
Speaker 2: got it, Like, what, you know something, I got it?
Speaker 2: The book is I got it? Good to just get through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I saw that. I remember I saw
Speaker 2: that in because they when they did that in the movie,
Speaker 2: so I knew that. You open it up. I already
Speaker 2: knew that seen it. Yeah, I have already heard it, Joe,
Speaker 2: Why would I need to read it?
Speaker 3: John?
Speaker 2: I'm sure you mean, but what were the sisters from
Speaker 2: last week? John, Lamey, Egg and Death? Yeah? Perfect?
Speaker 1: Their names really do translate really well to uh to
Speaker 1: their vibes.
Speaker 2: Hey girl, uh huh, where are you right now? I'm
Speaker 2: in a bathroom. There's a toilet behind me. But generally
Speaker 2: if this is a gorgeous bathroom, it's really I I
Speaker 2: met one of my puppet teammates' houses in Oakland, California.
Speaker 2: We're in Okay right now. Okay.
Speaker 1: We just taught a workshop in the bay. Here's a
Speaker 1: fun hay girl. Yesterday I went to a little kickback gathering,
Speaker 1: which was a very fun time. We played that game
Speaker 1: where you click through they show you like a random
Speaker 1: place on Google Maps and you try to guess it
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, geo guesser or something. Okay, it was very
Speaker 2: fun for a group. H And then also we ate
Speaker 2: that Trader Joe's Trader Joe's. It's called like Kringle. Is
Speaker 2: that a dessert? I don't shoot.
Speaker 1: It was an amazing dessert with some marzipan sort of
Speaker 1: almond flavors in it, and it was so good I
Speaker 1: genuinely couldn't stop going mm while eating out. Wow, Oh hmmm,
Speaker 1: do you like an almond flavoring? I?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, there's no way to say this without
Speaker 2: sounding like an a hole, so I'll just say it,
Speaker 2: say it, I do, But I worry about all of
Speaker 2: the water that ohducing and farming almonds consumes.
Speaker 1: I wonder is there a way for them to have
Speaker 1: like synthetic extracts at this point, I guess not. They
Speaker 1: probably just extract is probably one of the most Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like because all the flavoring manufactured. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: see what you mean, but that's so probably so extract
Speaker 1: is either the best way of using almonds because it's
Speaker 1: just the flavoring and doesn't actually have almonds many almonds in.
Speaker 2: It, or it's the worst because they.
Speaker 1: Have to make so many of them, so yez out
Speaker 1: the flavoring.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many almonds are in that bottle,
Speaker 2: in that little pipette? Oh, I don't know. Well, I
Speaker 2: get like that. I slept from Marzapan. I love Marzapan.
Speaker 2: Yah who knew? Uh huh Leanna, hay girl. How's it going?
Speaker 2: Hey girl? Listen? I went to a holiday party last night,
Speaker 2: which I was very proud of myself forgetting to because
Speaker 2: it started at eight forty five in the night, which
Speaker 2: is very late, and it was thirty minutes away by tube,
Speaker 2: and it was pouring rain and still I was saying
Speaker 2: that you arrived and went to that and it was
Speaker 2: it was a room full of people with MBA's. Okay.
Speaker 2: At one point they were talking about like the tax
Speaker 2: brackets in the UK. They were just talking about taxation
Speaker 2: in the UK, and I was like, yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 2: and they were like yeah, and then your income gets taxed.
Speaker 2: Forty percent of your income is taxed. And the funny
Speaker 2: thing is that happens once you pass a certain level
Speaker 2: of income. Oh before that, twenty percent of your income
Speaker 2: is town huh. And I think we can all guess
Speaker 2: which tier I'm in. And so she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: forty percent of your income and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: forty percent. I know. Oh what does she do? They
Speaker 2: all work in business now, okay, they all have MBAs
Speaker 2: from a program that they all did together. I flirted
Speaker 2: so hard at a man with an MBA that I
Speaker 2: definitely scared him. And it was one of those like
Speaker 2: he was the only viable option, you know, Like it
Speaker 2: was just so like, oh my gosh, I remember there
Speaker 2: was one nothing else years ago when we were in
Speaker 2: a car.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was awful, and we were all
Speaker 1: there was this one guy who wasn't that interesting? In
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. No, but there were like
Speaker 1: four of us there, all single, and Leona goes he
Speaker 1: is all of our only option.
Speaker 2: And we all became so aware of it.
Speaker 1: But it's true. We were all trying to flirt with
Speaker 1: him all night, even though he was kind of just
Speaker 1: a stick with.
Speaker 2: Hair, genuinely, and that gets you so far in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles among creatives. Yeah, this was a similar but he
Speaker 2: was a business stick, like well put together business, it's
Speaker 2: a business stick. He didn't like Wicked, which we haven't
Speaker 2: yet had a chance to discuss, but is wrong and
Speaker 2: I don't respect that opinion. And it's one of those
Speaker 2: things and you are a hater. It was an unfortunate
Speaker 2: moment of self realization once again, of like I'm just
Speaker 2: so not for men, Like I'm so not what they're
Speaker 2: looking forever where certainly not so funny. I'm just so
Speaker 2: funny in social settings and such a pleasure to have
Speaker 2: in class and they don't want you to be that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so I was myself and again it didn't
Speaker 2: work out. Yeah, happy holidays.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was just zooming out, zoning out a little
Speaker 1: bit right when you said that. That sent gave me
Speaker 1: a memory of watching the time when a girl in
Speaker 1: my class was like, I like your or he kept saying,
Speaker 1: I like your sweater. She's like stop and he's like,
Speaker 1: I like your sweater.
Speaker 2: She's like stop. And then I turned around and it
Speaker 2: was like it was it's a sweatshirt, not a sweater.
Speaker 2: See it's cotton. It's technically a sweatshirt. See it's cotton.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll protect you, don't worry. I mean,
Speaker 2: in that way, you are very Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some ways when Joe is at her
Speaker 1: most there are times where I'm like, why do I
Speaker 1: act like I'm from the Civil War? Sometimes in terms
Speaker 1: of my feminism, being like, don't make me a wife? Yes,
Speaker 1: you're always saying that, well, Leanna. Shall we move on
Speaker 1: to the episode about the movie?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I can start with a synopsis. Perhaps I'd
Speaker 2: love that this is.
Speaker 1: A synopsis that I simply just end part way through
Speaker 1: Little Women twenty nineteen. It's the story of Little Women,
Speaker 1: but this version is from twenty nineteen. Joe is a
Speaker 1: writer who fears marriage. Amy is a painter who is
Speaker 1: her family's only hope for high class status.
Speaker 2: Beth loves piano, parentheses dies. Yeah, and Meg wants a
Speaker 2: family and has trouble with the American accent. It's Pastels
Speaker 2: and it's Greta Gerwick. The end, how's your sister. She's
Speaker 2: having a lot of trouble with the American accent.
Speaker 1: This one is also out of time. The other one
Speaker 1: was chronological. This one's out of time, which is back
Speaker 1: and forth, which I got to say. At the beginning,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about this. I don't
Speaker 1: know about this. I don't know about this, and then boom,
Speaker 1: it got me and I loved it.
Speaker 2: Yay, it worked well. It worked well that way. Yay. Well,
Speaker 2: before we dive into phone notes, could I just get
Speaker 2: a spoiler alert from you? How did you feel about
Speaker 2: the movie the beginning?
Speaker 1: I was wary for a while, and then I accepted
Speaker 1: the way that these movies are different because they are
Speaker 1: they're trying to achieve something very different.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My takeaway was that the one from twenty or the
Speaker 1: one from the nineties was warmer and more like familial,
Speaker 1: like it was like focused on making them really feel
Speaker 1: like a family, but that the twenty nineteen one was
Speaker 1: a lot more emotionally poignant and kind of like more fun.
Speaker 2: This in our sort of modern fun in our modern
Speaker 2: way anyway. I at first I found myself I was missing, like,
Speaker 2: oh I miss the mom talking to.
Speaker 1: The daughters and things like that. But then I really
Speaker 1: liked Amy in this one because she was developed more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah it it grew on me a lot. Yeay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and then by the end I.
Speaker 2: Was like, this is awesome, so yay, yay, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: thank god. I didn't know what I was gonna do
Speaker 2: if you didn't like it. It was it was gonna be
Speaker 2: one of those things where it was like, unfortunately, you
Speaker 2: would just be wrong. Like there are many movies where
Speaker 2: we are our opinions are subjective, but this one, for yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it was tough.
Speaker 1: At the beginning to directly compare the two. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: yeah they are they're different movies.
Speaker 2: This one felt they are different movies.
Speaker 1: It was like it felt more like the play being
Speaker 1: cast with actors, you know, versus like trying to actually
Speaker 1: just represent a family from a book, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, part of it's because I recognized all these
Speaker 2: actors and.
Speaker 1: Stuff, and also Florence Pew was supposed to be playing
Speaker 1: your child.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: But but when you think of it as like a
Speaker 1: play that's cast with actors. It's not like that's so dumb,
Speaker 1: it's sort of it's sort of fun, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of the point, you know, like, let's see Florence. Please,
Speaker 1: can you obviously her age? They're not going to de
Speaker 1: age her or anything weird like that. Let's just accept
Speaker 1: she's the actress playing this child. And I got on board.
Speaker 2: Did you notice that they had a bigger gap of
Speaker 2: years in between the story? They said seven years ago
Speaker 2: instead of four. No, I think that timeline it's appropriate.
Speaker 2: If I hadn't seen the last movie, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if the timeline would have if I would have understood
Speaker 2: it completely. But I wasn't like that wasn't throwing me
Speaker 2: so much, you know what I mean? But it did
Speaker 2: help that I've seen the last movie with the chronological aspects. Anyway,
Speaker 2: let's get into our phone notes, shall we?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Shall we get into our phone notes? Hello everybody, and
Speaker 4: welcome to our phone notes, where we give notes that
Speaker 4: we took on our phone while watching the movie. Leanna
Speaker 4: you your first note is Sirsha's Rome's Roman.
Speaker 2: Do you get it? Like? Roaming? Was she roaming? At
Speaker 2: the beginning? Do you get it though? Like, thank you? Yes,
Speaker 2: she was Roman. She's rending around Roman. She is just
Speaker 2: a likable lass. Oh I love her so much too. Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh Cianna, you're yeah you wrote okay, well of course
Speaker 2: you like this one. The guys are way hotter. They
Speaker 2: are way hotter. It's women's right. Particular boyfriend? Oh oh
Speaker 2: is that? I know?
Speaker 1: I've never seen him ever again. I loved when she
Speaker 1: turned around her whole family standing there, like.
Speaker 2: I know, guy, who was that? What's good? What's there?
Speaker 2: What's that about? Did Marilyn Streep just invite your sister
Speaker 2: to Paris instead of you? I'm so sorry. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back. Girl. Can I just jump to this? Why
Speaker 2: is Timothy shallow May in this film? How do you
Speaker 2: feel about Timothy shallow May? I don't trust him. I
Speaker 2: hate him?
Speaker 1: What I really I've like tried, for example, this one
Speaker 1: to be honest. Also, because you like this one so much,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna give him a chance.
Speaker 2: Oh that's okay, and I should have told you ahead
Speaker 2: of time. I love the movie.
Speaker 1: I hate him, okay, all right? Yeah, my default is
Speaker 1: to really not like him and stuff. He's one of
Speaker 1: those actors where it's impossible for me to tell if
Speaker 1: he's doing a good job because I'm so aware that
Speaker 1: it's Timothy Shalome.
Speaker 2: Standing there right.
Speaker 1: For some reason, he doesn't blend into any atmosphere in my.
Speaker 2: Mind, I feel that way so much. Yes, even though.
Speaker 1: It's like that's it's been that way since he's become
Speaker 1: a star. He's always just been this like made up,
Speaker 1: this movie star person.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was a little bit by the end once.
Speaker 1: He's officially like supposed to be kind of like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a loser because he's not gotten all
Speaker 1: the things he wants. I the first time I enjoyed
Speaker 1: him in this like genuinely was like, oh, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of glad he's here. Was when the hot European guy
Speaker 1: was there and he was kind of like, who's this guy?
Speaker 2: I loved that that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that energy worked for me, and I was I was,
Speaker 1: I wish that to only see him in that role
Speaker 1: the couped yeah, because otherwise I'm just sort of confused.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: He supposed to be a total charmer. He does that
Speaker 1: like spin around thing. It feels like he's always copying
Speaker 1: an actual charming actor.
Speaker 2: To me, Oh, my gosh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Did you see call me by your name? No? I
Speaker 2: think that's the only environment in which he belongs, which
Speaker 2: is like the young son, yeah, of a wealthy family
Speaker 2: living in a villa in the Italian countryside for the summer.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm confused seeing him anywhere else, because that's
Speaker 1: so obviously how what he's supposed to be cast as. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that seeing him as anything like the idea that he
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be like from the richest family.
Speaker 2: But I think he was right. But like the fact is, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: just later when the ant is like, don't man just
Speaker 2: like his face isn't from any era. Yeah, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Definitely not from this one. He just has that same
Speaker 2: thing that I think you once described Darren Chris as
Speaker 2: of like clearly hasn't suffered.
Speaker 1: Things have just worked out and worked out and there
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I just this goofy guy who
Speaker 1: things work out for Leanna. You've said, wow, I really
Speaker 1: haven't write your notes yet. You've said, thank God, this
Speaker 1: man is hot. I thank god every day this man
Speaker 1: is hot.
Speaker 2: Thank God you thank God. Every day every day I
Speaker 2: wake up, I say God, thank you, thank you forgiving.
Speaker 2: I'd like to thank you God that Friedrich was hot
Speaker 2: in the twenty nineteen version of Little Women.
Speaker 1: It was I get I do get now. I was
Speaker 1: fine with the last one. But if you'd seen this first,
Speaker 1: I get why you could be bad about that one.
Speaker 2: The absolute revulsion of that ancient man that they made
Speaker 2: Winona Ryder kiss on the mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leanna, you said, you said, every March sister fighting
Speaker 1: for her life against her natural accent, which does add
Speaker 1: some suspense to the film.
Speaker 2: Does It's fun because you're always listening to it, like
Speaker 2: is she gonna get it? Yea? Is it gonna sitting
Speaker 2: in the like in the nose like that? No, No,
Speaker 2: I'm not, or like somebody said heart and it was
Speaker 2: like ha, And I was like, okay, no.
Speaker 1: My hair, what have you done to my hair?
Speaker 2: They're they're they're speaking very carefully.
Speaker 1: I kind of I really do. I do love seeing
Speaker 1: the struggle.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: That's why I like to watch bad singers and musicals.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, uh. I wonder why it seemed this
Speaker 1: might Why did you think this might be the case?
Speaker 2: Lea?
Speaker 1: You said, if Sienna, if you don't like Amy in
Speaker 1: this You are wrong. Why were you worried? I worried
Speaker 1: ill at first when she was the child version.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, I don't know. For a sec,
Speaker 2: do you know what I think? I was worried there
Speaker 2: was gonna be an irreverence. Oh there was Lady Chatterley's lover.
Speaker 2: I completely understand that there's any there's no tit in
Speaker 2: this film, but I was worried that there was going
Speaker 2: to be that, and then as a result, you maybe
Speaker 2: would not just be like taking in Florence's perform on
Speaker 2: That is completely understandable, but I'm sorry I ever doubted you. No,
Speaker 2: it's understandable, and in fact, again I think that this
Speaker 2: movie even speaks to I wasn't very trusting at the
Speaker 2: beginning because it was impossible to not directly compare it
Speaker 2: to the movie I saw right before. But it still
Speaker 2: won me over.
Speaker 1: So Wow, the ending of this movie was really good,
Speaker 1: Like the second half was the second half slaps.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love what they did with Amy in this movie.
Speaker 2: I know me too, like her adult version of her character.
Speaker 2: That was good.
Speaker 1: That was my biggest issue with the last one was
Speaker 1: that she didn't have a personality, which was such a
Speaker 1: waste because she's kind of Joe's biggest Like they fight
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: M hmm, they have a lot of.
Speaker 1: Conflict despite having a lot of the same desires. Are
Speaker 1: both being kind of feisty, you know, like yep, they
Speaker 1: just get really mad at each other. And they just
Speaker 1: didn't do that much with her as an adult last time.
Speaker 1: But this one mm, Yeah, I enjoyed her a lot.
Speaker 1: She was feistier and she I liked what they did.
Speaker 2: Also with her her aunt Meryl Streep just saying directly
Speaker 2: to her.
Speaker 1: That made that put it all into perspective for me
Speaker 1: that she's like, the reason I'm taking you is because
Speaker 1: you're genuinely the only one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, because they fleshed.
Speaker 1: Out Amy's character so much more, we could see the
Speaker 1: ways in which Joe can be annoying, which is important,
Speaker 1: you know. It's not just like, well, Amy's the best
Speaker 1: one and her sister sucks and then she gets better
Speaker 1: when she gets older. Instead, it was like, Joe, why
Speaker 1: do you think you could possibly be the one going
Speaker 1: to Europe? Like Amy has teens too, but hm, and
Speaker 1: also like you completely abandoned your great aunt or your
Speaker 1: aunt like you don't you don't hurt any like her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not trying at all. Yeah, Aleon you said meg
Speaker 1: still egg. Yeah I felt that, Leanna. You've said, bring
Speaker 1: back group dances.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what are we doing here? Not havings
Speaker 2: when they're at the I guess opera again, But then
Speaker 2: they're in like an ale hall in really cute. It
Speaker 2: does sound really you're dancing. What the hell? What are
Speaker 2: we doing? Have you been to line dancing, like queer
Speaker 2: line dancing?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I went.
Speaker 1: I went a couple months ago now, and it was
Speaker 1: the most fun any us of us had had in
Speaker 1: a really long time. And it was simply the rush
Speaker 1: of you know how they there's like all these different
Speaker 1: cures for depression, but like dancing is like by far
Speaker 1: the number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's literally like that physical touch, like exercise, socializing,
Speaker 2: the community, many things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after we left, I was kind of like trembling
Speaker 1: with the understanding.
Speaker 2: Of why group dance would save our lives. Literally, I
Speaker 2: don't get why we did away with that. It would
Speaker 2: really have a huge problem. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was like a whole different way of experiencing being alive.
Speaker 1: And also it's like that's one of the only places
Speaker 1: where society popped off, Like that was a cultural choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to gather as humans in that way.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was the war? Probably? Do you
Speaker 2: think it's because like all the men died. Maybe it was, well,
Speaker 2: we can't just have women.
Speaker 1: It probably was everybody their individual homes because we said,
Speaker 1: the economy wants you to all buy your own. The
Speaker 1: economy does better if we damn get away from community
Speaker 1: and have individual lives.
Speaker 2: We need the fifteen minute city and we need the
Speaker 2: Line dance Hall to be within that. Hopefully it'll come
Speaker 2: back in this new sort of apocalypse era. There's a
Speaker 2: bang An Apocalypse song that I've to send to you.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, please do Leanna.
Speaker 1: You've said it is so real to respond to criticism
Speaker 1: with don't talk to me anymore. I felt this way too.
Speaker 1: I found Joe more relatable now that she was kind
Speaker 1: of she had faults, clearer faults when she gives this
Speaker 1: guy all of her writing and then she's like, what
Speaker 1: do you have to say about it? Please give me
Speaker 1: your honest opinion, and then his honest opinion wasn't all positive?
Speaker 1: Is this what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: By the way, yes, okay, yeah, his.
Speaker 1: Honest opinion isn't all positive.
Speaker 2: I know she is.
Speaker 1: She asked for honest feedback, so she should expect it whatever.
Speaker 1: But this is exactly how I would react. I would
Speaker 1: be so upset and be like totally. I obviously came
Speaker 1: here for compliments. The fact that you don't love my
Speaker 1: writing is such a betrayal, even if it's not my
Speaker 1: best I hate you when I'm never talking to you much.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: It just felt like it's very human.
Speaker 2: It's very real. It felt very human. She's a human girl.
Speaker 2: Joe is a human girl. Sienna, you wrote, Sirsha slaying
Speaker 2: this haircut? Sorry when she could this her?
Speaker 3: What is?
Speaker 2: What do you think of? I just haven't ever heard that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a thing I'm ever said it.
Speaker 1: I might get a wolf cut, I might get a bob. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna get a super chop. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: super chop, super chop summer Biz say, doctor bangs, doctor begs.
Speaker 2: Giving you the super Chop of the year, super Chop
Speaker 2: of the centry. I I what I liked about it was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that feels like somebody hacked off your hair and gave
Speaker 2: you twenty five dollars. I thought she was kind of
Speaker 2: slaying in it. Actually when it grows out a little bit. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: But her hair is so beautiful when yeah it is.
Speaker 1: I couldn't, I really there was. I couldn't decide. I
Speaker 1: couldn't decide which was more beautiful or cute. She was
Speaker 1: slaying them both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, Leanna.
Speaker 1: You've said, could I not eat like some of my
Speaker 1: breakfast first before they take their Christmas breakfast to the
Speaker 1: family in need down the road. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: It's like nobody would not like no one. No one
Speaker 2: will be the wiser if I take it's half a muffin,
Speaker 2: one adult, four children, and an infant who is breastfeeding.
Speaker 2: That infant doesn't need your breakfast. You can have some
Speaker 2: of your breakfast before you take it to the humbles.
Speaker 2: I just they could have had one pastry. They could
Speaker 2: have split a couple of pastries if and then headed out.
Speaker 2: If I had to do charity on an empty stomach,
Speaker 2: I'd be so mean.
Speaker 1: I was thinking if I was in their position and
Speaker 1: I brought all of this breakfast over and then saw
Speaker 1: how these guys were living and was like, gosh, I'm
Speaker 1: glad we brought this to them because they had literally
Speaker 1: nothing to eat, and we're so lucky to have a
Speaker 1: cook who lives with us and have some things in
Speaker 1: our life. And then I got back to the most
Speaker 1: amazing breakfast of all time after giving, these guys are
Speaker 1: like fourth most amazing.
Speaker 2: Breakfast of all time.
Speaker 1: And I was rewarded just for giving somebody who never
Speaker 1: has food some of my food once, right, I was
Speaker 1: so guilty.
Speaker 2: Okay, can I say, uh huh that is so catholic?
Speaker 2: Oh so so catholic.
Speaker 1: You get back and you're just like, oh, okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: even more privileged than I'm even luckier than I thought,
Speaker 1: Like we're the ones who get the special, special, special
Speaker 1: meal just because we even got to be giving.
Speaker 2: I think as a teen, I would have been like, oh,
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted something savory, not just a hundred cakes,
Speaker 2: I know, And then it frosted breakfast.
Speaker 1: Cake frosted breakfast that's insane.
Speaker 2: As an adult, I was watching it and I was like,
Speaker 2: we all get that this is like not long term,
Speaker 2: like not a long term solution, Like this isn't a
Speaker 2: mutual aid thing that's really going to last true, like
Speaker 2: you brought them an extremely perishable meal and.
Speaker 1: Then you were extremely rewarded for it immediately. That's what
Speaker 1: made me feel the Catholic guilt.
Speaker 2: I just was like, Okay, so they go see the
Speaker 2: family and honestly testament to Beth being the old one
Speaker 2: who still gives a hoop, I know she. I mean,
Speaker 2: even Marmie is like, I forgot about the huddles. A
Speaker 2: lot else going on, I mean, you know, to be fair,
Speaker 2: it was the war. Yeah, there literally was a lot
Speaker 2: else going on. Leanna.
Speaker 1: You've said, Tim, you stick, how are you gonna help?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, a stick, not even a business stick,
Speaker 2: just a wealth.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy that we've been talking about sticks earlier
Speaker 1: and this wasn't you wrote these were already.
Speaker 2: Wow sticks among us. And then you've said.
Speaker 1: I'm angry nearly every day of my life mood. When
Speaker 1: Beth dies, I felt such real and extreme fear about
Speaker 1: about losing a sibling.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: They really got me with with their with you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really heard you on the the emotional beats in
Speaker 1: this one, because yeah, so I don't know, how did
Speaker 1: you feel about Laura Dern? She just kind of struck
Speaker 1: me as more of a comedic actress who's acting style,
Speaker 1: just the way that she forms her words. Sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't sound like a real person talking.
Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, I honestly I felt that
Speaker 2: way about a lot of like the dialogue in this
Speaker 2: coming out of just like modern yes he now yeah,
Speaker 2: exactly like her timote Bob odin Kirk. He arrives, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's all just like, we get it. Your wife's an agent.
Speaker 2: Nothing will ever be funnier than being in the cinema
Speaker 2: and hearing an audible reaction when bob Odenkirk entered. Honestly,
Speaker 2: and everyone was like, I think that's is that Bob Oden.
Speaker 1: I was into it. I did think it was funny.
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I the scene that really got me,
Speaker 2: And this is in my notes later. I was crying
Speaker 2: for like the second half of the movie Whoa, which
Speaker 2: is crazy because my meds do not allow that Whoa.
Speaker 2: Like they had to overcome such a high activation like
Speaker 2: what is it the enzymes do the activation energy? Whatever
Speaker 2: that is? It is so high from on a ground
Speaker 2: on a base level, huh. But somehow, when Laura Dern
Speaker 2: comes home from visiting Bob Odenkirk in the hospital to
Speaker 2: Beth because Beth has fallen ill, and she says, like,
Speaker 2: we're going to move you to another bed, sweet girl,
Speaker 2: and then just the way that she like helps Beth
Speaker 2: up and Beth leans into her arms and they embrace.
Speaker 2: I lost it, Like I started crying there, and I
Speaker 2: did not stop crying until the movie ended, and I
Speaker 2: really was looking around, like, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: Why is this happening? That's beautiful?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really got I mean I got got
Speaker 1: a the obvious sad part of when.
Speaker 2: I think they also such, oh god, that's seen. Isn't
Speaker 2: there so good? Laura looks at her. The other thing
Speaker 2: that I think they do such a good job of
Speaker 2: is you you There's I just felt like I had
Speaker 2: a much stronger understanding in this one of like they
Speaker 2: have lost a sibling. That's like they take care to
Speaker 2: show the three sisters later in the film, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you really feel like something is missing in each of those.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have goosebumps. Ladies, send him a
Speaker 2: mold of your beautiful feet. I loved that. I'm oh
Speaker 2: my god, I amy b like the crazy girl she is,
Speaker 2: which is like, so again, what fifth through tenth grade
Speaker 2: is like? Is you doing things that.
Speaker 1: Don't make any sense? Kind of for like the vague
Speaker 1: idea of a boy. Yeah, you know, like I like
Speaker 1: the weird like workouts my friends and I would do
Speaker 1: like in fifth grade.
Speaker 2: They didn't really mean it, but it's like why are
Speaker 2: we doing this?
Speaker 1: Or like the hair, the thing you think you need
Speaker 1: to do with your hair to be cool. And I
Speaker 1: love She earlier on when she gets struck by the teacher,
Speaker 1: plants the scene and she's like, ah, yes, Meg fell
Speaker 1: over because of her feet, but I would never fall
Speaker 1: over because I have lovely small feet, the loveliest in
Speaker 1: the family. Later she just goes, I'm taking a mold
Speaker 1: of my feet to remind Lori that I have beautiful feet.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what was making me laugh about it was?
Speaker 2: I was like, imagine if Sienna made them mold of
Speaker 2: her foot. I could not fit my foot in a
Speaker 2: bucket like that. I was. I didn't want to say that,
Speaker 2: but that is what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: No, I absolutely could not. There are no buckets that
Speaker 1: could fit my feet.
Speaker 2: My feet are huge.
Speaker 1: Buckets aren't that long. It's completely true, it would be
Speaker 1: such a strange shape of getting squeezed into a bucket.
Speaker 2: She arrives with doorsteps. He's like, oh god, what is this?
Speaker 2: What's happened? Also, is this a ransom thing?
Speaker 1: Imagine her mold of her foot arriving to his I know, doorstep,
Speaker 1: Oh beautiful feet.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. It's so bad if he likes that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, oh lovely small feet.
Speaker 2: The only acceptable reaction to that is no, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leanna, you said, yes, a wagon on the beach
Speaker 1: is a great idea.
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, the beach was all nice. I
Speaker 2: just couldn't believe had a wag. I was like, it's
Speaker 2: gonna sink. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've also said I am literally dressed like Beth
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Oh please please. She takes her sick sister to a
Speaker 2: cold gray beach to get well. I was like, first
Speaker 2: of all, to breathe the seat, Why do you think
Speaker 2: that's gonna help? Second of all, I was literally in
Speaker 2: like a sweater and had a blanket around my legs,
Speaker 2: exactly like Beth does. Have I ever shown you the
Speaker 2: photo of me at Christmas with my three cousins, my
Speaker 2: two cousins and my brother we're all the same generation
Speaker 2: where I look like they are grandmother. No, I'll have
Speaker 2: to send it to you after need to see. It's absurd.
Speaker 2: I'm just very bethcore. I think I have a Beth life.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna die at twenty three. I
Speaker 2: mean I clearly haven't, but just the way in which
Speaker 2: things like don't happen, it is as if I died
Speaker 2: at twenty three. I don't know. My absence of a
Speaker 2: love life is really getting me these days. Now, maybe
Speaker 2: I did die at twenty three in a way like
Speaker 2: I don't seem to exist in that no realm. I
Speaker 2: guess I maybe died at twenty three. You didn't, I
Speaker 2: can confirm it. Oh sorry, everyone, if you'll excuse me,
Speaker 2: I was taking a mold of my foot for my crush,
Speaker 2: and my large foot has gotten stuck not only in
Speaker 2: the clay mold, but also the bucket itself.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go deal with this. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, I am.
Speaker 2: I am so Joe.
Speaker 1: Towards the end of this movie, when Joe is like,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why you would marry your boyfriend, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Meg is like Meg it's like, because I want to
Speaker 1: that's the life I want. And Joe is like, I
Speaker 1: just don't think you know what you're doing. I don't
Speaker 1: think this choice you should do that. I don't think
Speaker 1: you should.
Speaker 2: Literally, for some reason, when a friend tells me that
Speaker 2: they're engaged, I'm always like, oh no.
Speaker 1: Even though people want that, like people just want to
Speaker 1: marry the people they love.
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, are you sure you're thinking about
Speaker 2: this right? Don't you want freedom and love? When she's like,
Speaker 2: we can go, we can run away, she's like I
Speaker 2: want to have kids. She's like, that can't be right.
Speaker 2: When you will be bored of him in two years,
Speaker 2: we will be interesting forever. I was like, yes, girl, yes.
Speaker 1: I really I really relate to her on a deep life.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm this way though, I mean
Speaker 1: there were moments where I kind of went, it's as
Speaker 1: if I still believe that these are all the rights
Speaker 1: anyone has still, even though a lot has changed from
Speaker 1: this time to later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but still the
Speaker 1: way it stresses her out that all the idea of wifehood, womanhood, Yeah,
Speaker 1: motherhood stresses me out a lot.
Speaker 2: At this age.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like supposedly the next step in life,
Speaker 1: and I think that's exactly why Joe gets so frustrated.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that supposed to be the next
Speaker 1: step for me as just a woman, supposed to fall
Speaker 1: in love and do whatever, what's next?
Speaker 2: Who am I as a person?
Speaker 1: This movie's so yeah, yeah, Fianna. You've also said tim
Speaker 1: Ota has no ass. Oh my god, that is very
Speaker 1: slim man.
Speaker 2: In the scene where he proposes to her and then
Speaker 2: he's like turning away and walking. He literally it's a
Speaker 2: straight line from the back of his head down to
Speaker 2: his feet.
Speaker 1: Exclamation point mode.
Speaker 2: Thank god she didn't marry him, o leoni.
Speaker 1: He said, oh no. When she says I'm so lonely,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry again.
Speaker 2: Oops. That monologue was so real because she's like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to just be destined for marriage. I'm there's
Speaker 2: so much more to me than that. At the same time,
Speaker 2: I don't want to just be pushing people away forever.
Speaker 2: I'm so that. I don't know why we had to
Speaker 2: read my journal in this film. That was invasive. It
Speaker 2: really is.
Speaker 1: This film did a really good job of capturing the
Speaker 1: the dichotomy of girlhood, the utter conflict within one's mind
Speaker 1: of being a modern feminist woman who is still allowed
Speaker 1: to be just a soft person. Yeah, they capture it really,
Speaker 1: really well, and it's cool that they gave They give
Speaker 1: Joe time to be lonely in this movie, or I
Speaker 1: think that's not something they do in the last one
Speaker 1: because she's an independent woman and she's like, this is
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 2: Is like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's all I want. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is that I want from this, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to be able to change my goals also,
Speaker 1: but I said I never want to get married, But
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, like being able to fight
Speaker 1: with that is such a genuine part of especially this age,
Speaker 1: you know, like mm, it's pretty special that they were
Speaker 1: able to have a speech like that. Yeah, women, women, women, Leanna,
Speaker 1: you said, I love his dead eyes, oh her hattie
Speaker 1: when he comes to visit, he brings so much life
Speaker 1: in his eyes.
Speaker 2: No, I think he's French, Okay, because he's French in
Speaker 2: real life. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actual, they kind of don't specify.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you want me to stay, I'll stay. That's
Speaker 2: kind of how it happened to me.
Speaker 1: Leanna, you said women's rights that if she has to
Speaker 1: marry someone, at least he's so hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I really love the scene where she's
Speaker 2: debating with the publisher. That was so fun. About the
Speaker 2: character getting married, that was so just it's like, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: do this go meta in the commentary when you're adapting
Speaker 2: a book from the eighteen hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't feel too sure, It didn't somehow didn't
Speaker 1: feel obnoxious at all.
Speaker 2: It was just, yeah, I just loved it. Loved it too.
Speaker 2: I thought it was really fun.
Speaker 1: She's like she said the whole time, she didn't want
Speaker 1: to marry anybody. It really also made me think about
Speaker 1: my assumptions too, because you do always want the ending.
Speaker 2: And but I completely understand too.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with Joe where she's like, we've just
Speaker 1: made up this world where love is supposed to be
Speaker 1: the answer. Yeah, I don't want to have to do that.
Speaker 1: And he's like, but also it's a little fun.
Speaker 2: She's like fine, oh my god, and they do this
Speaker 2: thing which I noticed this time around where she says
Speaker 2: fine and it goes back to the scene where she's
Speaker 2: exiting the carriage and going to French Friedrich and it
Speaker 2: shows a little bit of what we've already seen of
Speaker 2: her exiting the carriage, and it makes you feel like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is kind of like the fictional ending that she's
Speaker 2: choosing to write instead of necessarily like this character's reality.
Speaker 2: And I liked that so much. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I totally get that. They're like, listen, okay, we get
Speaker 2: that you as the audience want this, but it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily what's real. Somehow they managed to give us.
Speaker 1: They managed to give us both like, Okay, you know what,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be everybody's story, especially somebody who
Speaker 1: already said that their goals were not to be married.
Speaker 1: Does have to be everybody's story to get married or
Speaker 1: do this conventional stuff. But also, girls, you could have
Speaker 1: a little fun, do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: They managed to do. Go kiss the dead eyed hottie.
Speaker 1: And the last moment is with her in her book,
Speaker 1: the thing she's proudest of.
Speaker 2: I love that. That really got me.
Speaker 1: This is the love story in the end is her
Speaker 1: in her craft.
Speaker 2: God, when it started flashing back to her and her
Speaker 2: sisters as like young young children, I was crying again, blubbering,
Speaker 2: and I really was.
Speaker 1: Was incredibly successful and incredibly.
Speaker 2: The girls. Well, Leanna, should we move on to badges
Speaker 2: and trages talk a little more? Yeah. My first badge,
Speaker 2: strangely is for oh, the next our segment badges and trages,
Speaker 2: where we give badges for the blonde rendition of little
Speaker 2: women and we give trages for sorry Tim chalet T
Speaker 2: not blending in at all.
Speaker 1: My first badge is for the fireplace we see early
Speaker 1: on in the film. I think it might be at
Speaker 1: her New York place or something. There's like a round fireplace.
Speaker 1: I loved in very intriguing.
Speaker 2: I'm so intrigued. Oh, badge for Meryl, thank you, Yes,
Speaker 2: put Meryl in a film.
Speaker 1: Also a badge for me, but I'll go badge for
Speaker 1: pretty drastic better work. I think that was for when
Speaker 1: Meg puts on the gorgeous, gorgeous dress, and I said,
Speaker 1: everybody should have a chance to just put on something
Speaker 1: fun like that at one point in their lives.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I have a badge for Laura Dern. I
Speaker 2: seem to not even have a badge for her like
Speaker 2: performance as Marmie specifically, it's more just like, if Laura
Speaker 2: Dern is there, it's getting the badge. I love Laura Derne.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Gay Men's Choir of Los Angeles
Speaker 2: performing Laura Dern for Laura Dern, My god, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: I'll send that to you as well.
Speaker 1: Badge for Amy is a real person in this one,
Speaker 1: and it's awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm really yes. My next badge is a badge for
Speaker 2: Amy dressing down Laurie. Oh yes.
Speaker 1: Badge for a mold of your foot lmfao that really
Speaker 1: I loved that.
Speaker 2: That was insane. Badge for the color palette of the film.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Badge for one of the best lines in anything I
Speaker 1: ever heard, which is, you are the brudhist boy I
Speaker 1: ever saw.
Speaker 2: Oh, their little tiny town is really cute. You can't.
Speaker 1: That is one of the best parts of the Little
Speaker 1: Women franchise.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love where they live, I love
Speaker 2: watching them walk around.
Speaker 1: I love the fences, I love the trees, I love
Speaker 1: I love I love the events, I love the town.
Speaker 2: I love it all.
Speaker 1: Badge for They've captured the utter conflict of womanhood excellently
Speaker 1: in this film, really excellently. I mean, it's like quite
Speaker 1: a gift to see it. Yeah, well, it's cathartic.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Badge for. I like that they made Laurie's
Speaker 2: grandfather a character me too, I love that's a great point.
Speaker 2: I loved him. They managed to make Beth's whole thing
Speaker 2: a little bit more, a little deeper with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she has her own and he helps so much to see,
Speaker 2: like the impact she has on other people without having
Speaker 2: to have her speak because she's not really a talker.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. And then I guess my final badge is ending.
Speaker 1: With her and her book. I really really really.
Speaker 2: Loved that badge for love this shot of her dress
Speaker 2: when she is staring out the window when an egg
Speaker 2: is at the ball and she's pouting on the like
Speaker 2: side shade staring at the window. That shot is so beautiful,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, so many women were involved in
Speaker 2: this because they understood that you need to show that
Speaker 2: entire gown. Yeah, we want to see I want to
Speaker 2: see this woman being melancholic at the window. Badge for
Speaker 2: I love this monologue, the monologue when Amy is at
Speaker 2: her easel and Timote is like I think the poets
Speaker 2: would disagree, and she's like, shut up. Marriage is an
Speaker 2: economic proposition. Yeah, And this these are all the reasons
Speaker 2: why I have to marry somebody with money. Shut up,
Speaker 2: shut up. Badge for their hair is wind swept. They
Speaker 2: let these girls have messy hair, and that is so nice.
Speaker 2: Like when Amy and Joe are at the beach. Yes,
Speaker 2: their hair is in braids, but the like straggles and
Speaker 2: stuff that are out of it, that's so real. That's
Speaker 2: what it's like to have hair badge for. I love
Speaker 2: how much Lorie keeps asking who this man is at
Speaker 2: the very end. That was so real. First time, I
Speaker 2: was like, yes, good job, Timo Tek probably some of
Speaker 2: whose man is. And I love it because it's like, yes,
Speaker 2: of course LORI would be jealous because he definitely is
Speaker 2: still in love.
Speaker 1: With this happen that, Like, I think that does he
Speaker 1: love Amy as much as Joe, maybe a different way maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just how it works.
Speaker 2: Out and everyone's happy with it. Yeah. And then my
Speaker 2: final badge is a badge for this train station at
Speaker 2: the end. It was just so warm and of an
Speaker 2: era and I loved it lovely.
Speaker 1: Also a little a batch for when you read a
Speaker 1: letter and you're looking right at the camera type of thing.
Speaker 1: I really liked that too.
Speaker 2: I thought that was so interesting. Trages, Yes, I have
Speaker 2: a trage for too much UK. Too much?
Speaker 1: Come on, let's get some American actresses.
Speaker 2: In here out of the four of the UK. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, UK influence mm hmmm, because it medals in
Speaker 2: all their affairs, unlike America. You're already meddling everywhere else.
Speaker 2: Why meddle in America too? Uh No? That was my
Speaker 2: first trage, was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: One American actress in there, which I, for some reason
Speaker 1: have decided as a hell I'm gonna die on even
Speaker 1: though I can't think of any bit I would love
Speaker 1: and put in here.
Speaker 2: A trage for t T gives me the ick so
Speaker 2: bad I don't.
Speaker 1: Need him to be anywhere personally personally, my I only
Speaker 1: wrote on one other trage, and this is my main trage
Speaker 1: with this movie versus the other one that I've now
Speaker 1: seen and.
Speaker 2: No need to compare. But unfortunately I am.
Speaker 1: But my main thing about this movie is they don't
Speaker 1: really seem like sisters to me.
Speaker 2: By the end.
Speaker 1: By the end the tragedy whatever it's, I feel like
Speaker 1: they've really lost someone.
Speaker 2: I guess I guess it.
Speaker 1: It grew over throughout the movie, but at the beginning
Speaker 1: they didn't feel like a genuine family.
Speaker 2: To me, it felt like.
Speaker 1: Very much an acted play of these ideas of sisterhood.
Speaker 1: But I didn't feel like, oh, this is their mom
Speaker 1: who they loved. They were always in the same household,
Speaker 1: and they bicker and they whatever they you know, they
Speaker 1: just felt they felt like the four actresses standing next
Speaker 1: to each other. Unfortunately, to me, a little bit more
Speaker 1: though that did develop throughout the movie. But that would
Speaker 1: be my one thing. If you were looking for the
Speaker 1: real family thing, I'd go with the other movie. But
Speaker 1: obviously this one is like a lot more than that,
Speaker 1: you know, so I understood the complexities and what it
Speaker 1: was actually doing throughout watching the movie. But that was
Speaker 1: the one part I missed. I think I especially missed
Speaker 1: the mom. I really really loved Susan Sarandon in the
Speaker 1: last one for some reason that really it really hit
Speaker 1: me in a way that I missed.
Speaker 2: But but it's different. Trage for Laurie is the most
Speaker 2: annoying person in the world. Yeah, I like that they
Speaker 2: let him be though. I like that they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, when you have a friend, and he also
Speaker 2: is so annoying. Trage for really, I don't get it,
Speaker 2: which is when Meg is being like kind of bullied
Speaker 2: when they're calling her Daisy. And then I didn't get
Speaker 2: why Laurie was upset with her about what I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a hundred I never get that. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 2: and that's my last trage.
Speaker 1: Excellent, well, Leana showing. Move on to our next segment,
Speaker 1: which is, of course, how to pretend you've seen this film.
Speaker 1: This is for you are at a line dance, You're
Speaker 1: at a community dance.
Speaker 2: They've brought them back. You're so happy to be experiencing
Speaker 2: life in this way. You're about to go out on
Speaker 2: the dance floor with this group of people when you
Speaker 2: feel your arm tugged on. Someone pulls you over. It's
Speaker 2: it's uh, last time we did, Laurie. But Timote.
Speaker 1: It's Timote. Timote is taking on your arm and says, hey,
Speaker 1: wait home on a second. This reminds me of something.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen this?
Speaker 1: I feel like if I tell you this, chicks dig
Speaker 1: the movie Little Women twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Did you ever see it? Why don't instead of dancing
Speaker 2: or why don't we talk about it over here? In
Speaker 2: order to put Timote in a carriage and send him
Speaker 2: far away from here. We're going to give you a
Speaker 2: few sentences you could say to pretend you've seen the
Speaker 2: film Little Women twenty nineteen. Timote, of course, I've seen
Speaker 2: Little Women twenty nineteen, and in this conversation, I'm going
Speaker 2: to have to follow the advice of the publisher at
Speaker 2: the begin of the movie when he says, make sure
Speaker 2: she's married by the end or dead, doesn't matter. My god,
Speaker 2: that was so funny. This is so sick interesting.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, te, I've seen the film Little Women twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Fun fact.
Speaker 1: After finding out that the adaptation was in the works,
Speaker 1: Sirsha Ronan reached out to Greta Gerwig and told her
Speaker 1: that she had decided she was going to play Joe March.
Speaker 1: Gerwig was initially hesitant to cast her after they'd just
Speaker 1: done Ladybird together, but after realizing that more or less
Speaker 1: casting herself was a very Joe thing to do, sent
Speaker 1: Ronan in an email and said, yes, you're Joe.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's incredibly Joe. Absolutely, Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying line dancing and forgetting about my woes and
Speaker 2: then I get tapped on the shoulder by tim O
Speaker 2: Tay and realize my day has been interrupted by a man,
Speaker 2: and I turned to camera and I say, oh, I
Speaker 2: can't get over my disappointment and being a girl. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, oh so good. That's literally me every time
Speaker 2: I'm like the funniest one. Yeah, yeah, in a flirtation
Speaker 2: and it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Wait, this is make me cry.
Speaker 3: Who Yes?
Speaker 1: Women, women, Yes, women, women, Yes, tim Ota, I've seen
Speaker 1: the film. Uh, I've seen the film Little Women twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Amy's big speech about marriage was not the initial was
Speaker 1: not in the initial script, but was suggested by Meryl
Speaker 1: Streep oh after working and talking with the writer and
Speaker 1: director Gretigor Wiggs. Streep asserted that there needed to be
Speaker 1: a moment in this movie that allowed modern audiences to
Speaker 1: understand the true powerlessness of women in that period.
Speaker 2: That's true, Yes, that's true.
Speaker 1: Not only could they not vote or work, but through marriage,
Speaker 1: they would lose ownership of their own money, property, and children.
Speaker 1: According to Florence Pugh, the lines were given to her
Speaker 1: a few minutes before they were due to shoot the scene.
Speaker 1: It was handwritten on a scrap of paper. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's women, that's women, women, that's collaboration.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yes, Timotay, I've seen Little Women twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to use this time to give another
Speaker 2: badge to the film, which is in the scene where
Speaker 2: they're leaving the theater and John takes Egg's arm, and
Speaker 2: Laurie sees that and goes to take Joe's arm. So
Speaker 2: John offers Egg his arm, and Egg gratefully accepts and blushes,
Speaker 2: and then Laurie offers Joe his arm and Joe punches
Speaker 2: him him in the arm and runs aha and takes
Speaker 2: Meg's arm. I love from John.
Speaker 1: I laughed so much bad I laughed so much when
Speaker 1: he went out Joe Joe. Okay, here's why Emma Watson
Speaker 1: was in it. Yes, yes, timote I've Seen Little Women
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Emma Watson took over the role of Meg
Speaker 1: March from Emma Stone, American actress who became unavailable due
Speaker 1: to her scheduling conflicts with promoting the favorite.
Speaker 2: Interesting. How do we feel about that? Interesting? I think
Speaker 2: that would have been weirdly. I feel Emma Watson is
Speaker 2: more right for the party. I agree that sounds really forced.
Speaker 2: I don't think she does a bad job in this.
Speaker 2: I think it's just like a boring role.
Speaker 1: Exactly, like, there's not much to do with it. And honestly,
Speaker 1: in this one, she's just sort of like pretty and
Speaker 1: wants kids and that's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she is so beautiful. Yeah. I didn't think
Speaker 2: she was bad in this at all.
Speaker 1: It's yeah again, it's I don't know why Emma Stone
Speaker 1: would be in this, even though I said I desperately
Speaker 1: want an American in it, I don't really, we know,
Speaker 1: I don't really. And finally, Joe March never wears a
Speaker 1: corset in the movie, which is quite unusual for the time.
Speaker 2: Makes perfect sense. You better work. Say okay, Siena, let's
Speaker 2: run down the New York City side walk into our
Speaker 2: segment should you watch this or in which we tell
Speaker 2: you if you should watch the film or if we
Speaker 2: think you should do something else with your time? Ni personally, Yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely. You can watch Little Women twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I am going.
Speaker 2: To say that you can watch this movie as well.
Speaker 2: It was really delightful.
Speaker 1: I think the speech the speeches in it are really
Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, I think if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: more sort of Christmasy like, less modern vibe. And then
Speaker 1: the last one we saw is a great option, but
Speaker 1: this one is definitely worth seeing. Yeah, and it's really
Speaker 1: nice to have Amy be a real character and Joe
Speaker 1: have flaws. It was wonderful, Leonna, what would you read
Speaker 1: now this film?
Speaker 2: Okay? I would give Little Women twenty nineteen five beautiful
Speaker 2: ball gowns out of five. I loved it. I love
Speaker 2: what they did with the story and how they chose
Speaker 2: to kind of chop it up and make it their own.
Speaker 2: And I love women, Sienna, how about you?
Speaker 1: I would give Little Women twenty nineteen four point eight
Speaker 1: foot molds out of five. My only things off are
Speaker 1: just like the sisterhood, sometimes feeling not as the most
Speaker 1: just not getting complete sister advice, but mostly just I
Speaker 1: missed a mom, feminist mom, nerved feminist mom. But I
Speaker 1: really love everything we did, and it's clear that greteger
Speaker 1: woiug like, put a bunch of work and love into
Speaker 1: this and brought a great team together and it's really
Speaker 1: one of those great masterpieces of our time.
Speaker 2: So yay, yay, yay, tadda. That's it. We have now
Speaker 2: watched both Little Women. If there's another one, I don't
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Speaker 2: It's called Thoughtful, is the name of the company. Huh,
Speaker 2: But it's spelled tcho r t f ul. But because
Speaker 2: it's British, everybody's like thoughtful and I'm like thoughtful. That's
Speaker 2: so funny. Wait, that's so funny.