1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Wednesday edition, December twentieth. Wednesday, December twentieth edition 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I know 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: we're getting close to the holidays. Some of you are 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: probably putting your finishing touches on how you wrap your presents, 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: because as you now know, that's very important some people. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: But we got a lot of news to get to today, 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: much to discuss. I got a little check in from 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: our main man, Clay Travis. He's having a great time 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: with his family in Australia where he's on vacation. He'll 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: be back after the new year, so we can all 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: certainly look forward to look forward to that. And in 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: the meantime, we've got a lot to discuss here. We have. 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Let's start with it Trump. The Supreme Court. I just 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: out court Supreme Court of the State of Colorado has 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: decided that Trump is disqualified from running for president by 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: the Colorado Supreme Court. He will be removed, according to 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: this court, from the state ballot for stoking insurrection. Now 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot here that's where of note. Also, we've 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: got guests coming up later this hour. We'll talk to 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Attorney General of the State of Texas, Ken Paxton, looking 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: forward to that. We also have Chip Roy a lot 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: of Texas today who's on the ground in Iowa. He's 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: going to talk to us about that. But first up 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: here the Trump disqualification maneuver. Can I just say, what 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: have we been talking about here on the show for 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: the past week? What have we been discussing. I've been 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: saying to you the polls, they're going too far in 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: the anti Biden direction. The Democrats they have to have 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: some trick up their sleeve. Now, we've known that the 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: primary thing that they've been planning here for some time, 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: the main effort to beat Trump not by will of 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: the people, not by a free and fair election, but 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: by some mechanism of underhanded action. We've known for a 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: while that the game here was going to be bringing 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: these indictments and eventually court cases and prosecutions against Donald Trump, 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: and that that was essentially the plan. That it didn't 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: really matter that Joe Biden. I don't know if he 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: ever had a fast pitch, but you know, he's lost 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: whatever pitch he used to be able to throw. Doesn't matter, 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: because they're going to finish off Trump with the legal system, 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: not at the ballot box, or perhaps the ballot box 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: is the final stage after they have so weakened Trump 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: through prosecutions that they think that they can't lose. They 46 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: can't lose against Trump in this twenty twenty four election. 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: That's been the basic plan. Now, what's the problem with 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: that plan as we have seen it in the polls? 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Problem is Donald Trump keeps gaining in popularity, and not 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: just among the base. You know, I was wary of 51 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: that in the beginning. I thought, hold on a second, 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: is this Democrats thinking that they can beat Donald Trump 53 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: and therefore stoking his support within the base? I call 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: it the Trump trap, stoking support within the base so 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: that then they can easily defeat him in the general. 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: We have warned you about that possibility on this show 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: from the very beginning. It hasn't been clear to me 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 2: that that's what's going on, but it certainly seems plausible 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: given the Democrats tremendous focus on this not just one, 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: but four criminal prosecutions, and it just stands to reason 61 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: that the Republican base, seeing this level of injustice, would 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: rally against against this and support Donald Trump. But that's 63 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: not what's so concerning to Democrats right now. What's so 64 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: concerning to the Democrat Party is that Donald Trump is 65 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: surging in the swing states and is winning over independent 66 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: and low propensity voters in those places. As in, it's 67 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: not just the Trumpsters, as they would put it, that 68 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: are rallying to Trump. It's just a majority of the 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: American voting public, or at least as it pertains the 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: electoral college, enough people that there would be quite a victory. Now, 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: that's been the concern. I've been saying to you, Well, 72 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: what are we going to see then? What are we 73 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: going to witness the Democrats doing in order to change 74 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: the game? I said, are we looking in the wrong direction? 75 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Is there something going on here? Is there some reality 76 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: playing out that we have to be aware of. Where 77 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 2: the Democrats think? This is the ace up the sleeve, 78 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: This is the secret weapon that they have. And we've 79 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: talked about the possibility of a state ballot removal of 80 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: a president before a few places that this has already happened, 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: and it has been unsuccessful. They have not been able 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: to do it right. They have not been able to 83 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: bring themselves to get to get Trump removed. Colorado's the 84 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: first time this plan has been successful. Colorado is the 85 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: first time that we've had a situation where they've actually 86 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: had the state Supreme Court decide, as crazy as it is, 87 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: that he should be taken off the ballot. Now, there's 88 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: a lot going on here. First of all, the Libs 89 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: love this. The Libs. Here's a former Court of Appeals 90 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: Judge Michael Luddig. This has cut six play. 91 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: This individual justice is of the Colorado Supreme Court brought 92 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: honor to their court and as well to the state 93 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: and federal judiciaries with their opinion tonight in this historic case. 94 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: They marshal the support for each and every one of 95 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: their decisions of state law and federal constitutional law, as 96 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: well as any judge could do. Their opinion is unassailable 97 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: under the objective law of the Federal Constitution and Section 98 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: three of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Supreme Court of the 99 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: United States ought to affirm this decision. 100 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: That is insane, That is clearly outrageous and insane. First 101 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: of all, what they're allowing for is Donald Trump to 102 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: be removed from the ballot, to be removed from the 103 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: ballot without having been found guilty of any crime with 104 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: no due process whatsoever, and with the essential fact here 105 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: of taking part is in an insurrection in dispute, as 106 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: in he didn't take part in an insurrection. What is 107 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: the limiting principle of this? I mean, think about that 108 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: for a moment. Where and who makes this determination? So 109 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: any state, at any point in time can just decide, 110 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: you know what, you were supporting the BLM riots. That 111 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: was an effort to overturn American democracy. Look like it 112 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: to me, riots all over the country. Buildings burning down, 113 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: police stations burning down. You were a part of that, 114 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: and therefore you can't run for president anymore. Would they 115 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: accept that if it were done in a republican state? 116 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: Would they accept that if it were something that was 117 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: going to affect the Democrat? Of course not. But this 118 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: is the other option. This is the other plan. We've 119 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: been talking about it. What do they think they can 120 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: do that will stop Trump? Because clearly it's not just 121 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: appealing to the electorate and getting the American peace people 122 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: to agree with them. That's not the plan. Joe Biden's 123 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: a joke, you know it, I know it. So what 124 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: are they gonna do? Something like this? They're going to 125 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: abuse the system beyond recognition in the name of saving it. 126 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: They'll burn it down to make sure that it endures. 127 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: This is crazy. It is absolutely nonsense. So I've got 128 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: to say the fact that Colorado has gone so far 129 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: left as a state is really disappointing. I know that 130 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: there are a lot of good Republicans in Colorado, but 131 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: it's now kind of gone out of purple into pretty 132 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: solid blue territory. And that the state Supreme Court would 133 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: come up with such an outrageous decision, I think that 134 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: there's a very good chance on the merits. Not only 135 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: will the Supreme Court, the US Supreme Court strike this down. 136 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: I think you will get probably a seven seven to 137 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: two decision on this one, maybe even maybe even unanimous. 138 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't think you can trust so to Major to 139 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: vote against this. I think she'll say, I don't care 140 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: what an outrage this is against the Constitution. She's an 141 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: activist and she's the least bright member of the Supreme Court, 142 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: and so she'll probably go along with it. I think 143 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: there might be one other justice who would go along 144 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: with this, But still that's why I think seven to 145 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: Justice Ktangi Brown Jackson may go along with this. I 146 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 2: think you're looking at seven to two, maybe nine to zero, 147 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: because think about what this does. Think about what this 148 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: opens up. They're going to remove him for what exactly? 149 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: For They say he took part in an insurrection against 150 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: the Constitution of the United States. That's insane, that's just insane. 151 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: It didn't happen. So they're lying, they're wrong, they're overreaching, 152 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: and they're destroying the very legal and political system that 153 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: they claim to be the sacred protectors of in this 154 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: whole process. But here's here's what I have for you 155 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: as the main takeaway in this, and I definitely want 156 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 2: to open up lines on this, want to hear from you. 157 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two eighty two to eight A two. 158 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: Here's what I see going on here. They'll do anything, 159 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: they will do anything in order to defeat Donald Trump. 160 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: There's no argument that is too embarrassing for them to make, 161 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: there is no rule that is too sacred for them 162 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: to break. Whatever will work, they will do or that 163 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: they think will work. And so I'm not even sure 164 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: this is the last thing, the last dirty trick they're 165 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: going to pull. In fact, I'm quite certain there'll be 166 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: others and it's up to us to both anticipate what 167 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: they are, what they will be to the degree we can, 168 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: and to be prepared for the endurance necessary to defeat 169 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: these these efforts. Because if a couple of left wing 170 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: judges in or a handful of left wing judges in 171 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: a place like Colorado can deprive the American people of 172 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: their right to vote for whom they want to be president, 173 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: do we have a republic anymore? 174 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: No? 175 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: Really, you have to ask yourself that question. You have 176 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: to wonder, Oh, they can do it this time, but 177 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: they won't do it again. Really based on what based 178 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: on our faith that the far left Democrat Party, that 179 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: the Democrat corporate media, with its wokeness and its communist insanity, 180 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: that they'll decide they want to start playing fair. Of 181 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: course not, you don't believe that. I don't believe that. 182 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: So we are seeing just how far they're willing to 183 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: go and how much destruction and damage they're willing to 184 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: do to our country in the process. But I was 185 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: asking the question, what's the next play, Well, here's the 186 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: next play. It's as dirty as it gets, and there's 187 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: going to be more. There's going to be more. This 188 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: is why they think they're going to run Biden because 189 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: the candidate does it really matter to them. They're on 190 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: an all out mission to destroy Donald Trump. They will 191 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: do whatever they think will work in that process. That's 192 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: the only sacred principle, Stop Trump. 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The Clay Travis said Buck Sexton show. 227 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck here, and we are 228 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: diving into the the I'm sorry the State Court Supreme 229 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: Court decision, not your decision in Colorado regarding Donald Trump's 230 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: eligibility to be on the ballot. I think we're also 231 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: waiting for Texas State. Oh he's there, Texas State Attorney 232 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: General Ken Paxton, just in time. How are you doing, sir, Hey, 233 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. 234 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on. 235 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: And I want to ask you about Texas's big move 236 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: with regard to the border. But if I can first 237 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: get your take as a state attorney general on the 238 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: breaking news about what just happened in a state not 239 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: far from the Colorado I guess it depends on what 240 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: you consider far. 241 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: But up in. 242 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: Colorado, the state Supreme Court just said Trump can't be 243 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: on the ballot because of insurrection. What do you view 244 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: here as the law and the rightness and wrongness of 245 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: this decision? 246 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 5: Well, it couldn't be more wrong. It couldn't be more 247 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: devastating to our republic because if state's literally a supreme 248 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 5: court of potentially seven to nine members and make a 249 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: decision to take people off the ballot, we don't have 250 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: a Republican anymore. 251 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty much over. 252 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: So the Supreme Court is going. 253 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: To have to stop that. 254 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: In the US Supreme Court or we're going to find 255 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: ourselves with no ability to affect elections anymore. We're going 256 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 5: to be much like Russia or China or. 257 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: Venzeuela in terms of the legality that they're trying to use. Here. 258 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Is there a limiting principle? It seems to me. I mean, 259 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: I was reading through the Anderson v. Griswold decision and 260 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: they just kind of say, well, Trump did an insurrection 261 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: and he was part of the insurrection, therefore he's covered 262 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: under this. Well, that's just to borrow from the dude 263 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: in the Big Lebowski like their opinion, man. 264 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: Exactly, And it just can't be that a Supreme Court 265 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 5: can take you off the ballot for he's never been 266 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: adjudicated to be have committed any crime. So it's ludicrous 267 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: for them to basically they've a udicated it without ever 268 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: hearing evidence on what he's done wrong and what crime 269 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 5: he's committed, and then to just pull him off the 270 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: ballot with that basically an arbitrary decision. I'm just saying 271 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: that if that is left to stand, you'll see states 272 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: doing that all across the country every time they don't 273 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: like So Texas could do it, we might do it 274 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: for Biden because he's been bribed. Right, We've just the 275 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: Supreme Court decided he's been bribed, even though he's never 276 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: been adjudicated to have done that. So you cannot have 277 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 5: a supreme court of a state do that and have 278 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 5: we won't have legitimate elections ever again if this stands. 279 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I to me, this seems so clear. I was 280 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: even going to say I think seven to maybe even 281 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: nine to oh the Supreme Court strikes this down, although 282 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: I'd put more money on seven two. But Attorney General Paxson, 283 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: I did want to ask you about another major movement, 284 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: legal realm. Year Governor Abbott now has authority under Texas 285 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: law to take action against illegal immigrant entries into Texas. First, 286 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: you tell us what these new powers are, and then 287 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, is this going to survive 288 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: federal scrutiny because we know the Biden administration, if they 289 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: haven't already, you're going to challenge it. 290 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: Well, look, I invite them to challenge that we're trying 291 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: to protect our border. They won't do it. They've got 292 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: they've got the force of law on their side, laws 293 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: that enable them to protect the border, and they've said no, 294 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: Not only are we not going to protect it, but 295 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 5: we're going to encourage the cartel to bring as many 296 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: people here and make as much money as they can, 297 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 5: as fast as they can. So that's where that's where 298 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: the Bide administration is. So as a state, I think 299 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: we have a right to protect our border. We have 300 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: a right to protect our people from crime, which includes 301 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 5: all kinds of terrible crimes, from trafficking of human beings 302 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 5: to drugs. And I think what we have the opportunity 303 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: to do here is arrest people that come in here 304 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: and it's a Class D misdemeanor and they're sent out 305 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 5: and as long as they don't come back, they're not 306 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 5: going to end up with a selonie. If they come 307 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: back in, they've got a sellie. So we're trying to 308 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: disincentivize what the federal government is supposed to disincentivize. 309 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: Now, they're probably going to bring a similar a similar 310 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: challenge against you that the Obama administration did against Arizona 311 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: back in twenty ten. Is that how you see this 312 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: going and why do you think is the outcome likely 313 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: to be different just because we have a different Supreme 314 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: Court now in the review process. 315 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: Well, there's two parts of this one is it's a 316 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 5: different law, where with these are state laws that we've 317 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: created crimes under state law, which we are sovereign states, 318 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 5: so we can do that. And this is a situation 319 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 5: where we've had how many years since that Obama decision, 320 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: where we with the Supreme Court has gotten to see 321 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: the results of the decision that they made, which was, hey, Arizona, 322 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: you can't protect your citizens because the federal government's supposed 323 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 5: to do it. Well, now we see that the federal 324 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 5: government won't do it. That cannot be the right decision 325 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: to allow states to have to suffer crime and people 326 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 5: dying and getting hurt because of that decision. So I'm 327 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: hoping with a new Supreme Court and some evidence that 328 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 5: this is pretty devastating to the border states, that they 329 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 5: will not use that decision against us, but instead we'll 330 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 5: revisit it and say, wait a minute, States do have 331 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 5: a right to protect their citizens if the federal government 332 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 5: won't do it. 333 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: Give everyone a sense. I mean, you have you ever 334 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: seen the border. We just talked yesterday on the show 335 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: about how the all time high for you know, all 336 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: time record for illegal crossings not a record that any 337 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: administration should want to set. They just hit that and 338 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: that just happened the all time high. What does that 339 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: mean for your I meaning the illegal immigration problem, what 340 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: is it looking like for your state? For the budget 341 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: for just lawlessness law enforcement resources. I wanted you to 342 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: try to put it in context for everybody, because you're 343 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: right there on the front lines of it. 344 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: Well, here's the deal. I mean, the cartels are building 345 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 5: a network into our country. They've got so much money now, 346 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: billions being made off of human trusting because they charge 347 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 5: for every person coming across, you know, eight to twelve 348 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 5: thousand dollars, sometimes more, and that is money going into 349 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: their pocket. So now they've got an incentive to build 350 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 5: this network into the United States and make it continue, 351 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: and along with that all of the crime that goes 352 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 5: along with that. But even if it's concerning as all, 353 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 5: that is the potential terroristic threat of people coming across 354 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 5: the border from China and other countries that are not 355 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 5: our friends. And the Biden administration does not just look 356 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 5: the other way. They've invited it, and they've encouraged it, 357 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: and they've told the cartels please do this, we want 358 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 5: more people. Those numbers are not accidental, and we know 359 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 5: that because we know what immigration look like under Trump, 360 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: and we know what worked, and the Biden administration said, 361 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: dismantle everything that works, and let's do the things that 362 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: would encourage as many people to come across for as possible, 363 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 5: no matter who they are, no matter what their background, 364 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: we want them. 365 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Attorney General Ken Paxson Form State of Texas, appreciate you 366 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: being with us, sir. 367 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 5: Thank you, have a great day. Merry Christmas. 368 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you too. Look, I think what Texas 369 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: is doing here is smart, necessary and could really change 370 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: things up. We have a different court now, as he 371 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: points out, different laws than what Arizona went through, different 372 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: Supreme Court makeup for the review process. And I do 373 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: believe the urgency of the border is as a crisis 374 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: is now more set in the minds of the people 375 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: than it has been perhaps ever before, and rightly so, 376 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: because of the numbers and because of the reality of 377 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: what is happening. You know, ask somebody in New York City. 378 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: I have relatives and friends in New York City. They 379 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: see migrants just kind of living out and wandering around 380 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: in the streets and it's a mess, and we actually 381 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: can't afford this. That's the part of it that the 382 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: Democrats don't want people to figure out we actually don't 383 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: have the spare cash lying around to pay for millions 384 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: of people who are going to need substantial government resources 385 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: to feed themselves, to have a place to live, to 386 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: all of that. And if we're just going to become 387 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: the world's you know, shelter, if we're going to become 388 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: the world soup kitchen, we got big problems. You start 389 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: to wonder, is this a country, Is this a country 390 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: that people are going to fight for? Is this a 391 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: country that people are going to feel bound by the 392 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: rule of law in Why? If so, why given what's 393 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: going on eight hundred two two eight to two will 394 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: take some recalls on this Colorado decision. What you think 395 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: is coming up, we will dive into it. 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Download the Phoenix Capital Group's free investment 411 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: packet today at phxon air dot com. 412 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: You don't know what you don't know right, but you could. 413 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, comp. 414 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Means to President. I think I need to be president. 415 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 7: I think that's good for the country. 416 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: But I will be in fair and square. We don't 417 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: need judges. 418 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 6: Making these decisions. 419 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: We need voters to have any make these decisions. 420 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: I do not believe Donald Trump should be prevented from 421 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: being president United States. 422 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: By any court. 423 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: I think he should be prevented from being president United 424 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: States by the voters of this country. 425 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: There you had a couple of the GOP contenders weighing 426 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: and welcome back to Clay and Buck. Just Buck today, 427 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: and I am here with all of you. Clay is 428 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: on vacation in Australia with the fam. You heard Nikki Haley, 429 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: you heard Chris Christie, and they're saying what I would 430 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: expect them to really, which is I don't want a 431 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: court to do this, but you know, guy should be president. 432 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley has been surging visa e Rond de Santis recently, 433 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: which is interesting. I've seen some polling putting her even 434 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: ahead of Ronda Santis, so she's gaining some ground. But 435 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: the one who, by far, and this is entirely unsurprising, 436 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 2: is the most devoted to going all in on the 437 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: Trump side of this argument in the Colorado Sport is 438 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswami, who is pledging to take his name off 439 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: the ballot Play twelve. I will withdraw. 440 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: I pledged to withdraw from the Colorado GOP primary ballot 441 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 7: unlessen until Trump's name is restored, and I demand that 442 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 7: Rond de Santas and Chris Christi and Nikki Haley do 443 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 7: the same thing or else. These Republicans are simply complicit 444 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 7: in this unconstitutional attack on the way we conduct our 445 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 7: constitutional republic. 446 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: I refuse to be complicit in that. 447 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 7: I think what they're doing is wrong, and I think 448 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 7: it's up to Republicans to step up and stand up 449 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 7: with a spine for our country's future. 450 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, why not just demand that they all drop out? 451 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: Then? 452 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: What is this? I honestly, come on, vivek. Look, leveg 453 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: is not going to be president, so he loses nothing 454 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: by saying he's taking his name off the ballot. In Colorado. 455 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is going in on this, and that 456 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: is the way the process actually actually goes. So I 457 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: think the demands of other people to to bend the 458 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: knee to what's going on here in Colorado is a 459 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: little a little much right now. I think that this 460 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: is something that you can expect the Trump campaign to 461 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: fight against vigorously and to prevail. No guarantees in life. 462 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: But that is how I see this likely going and 463 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: playing out. But there's clearly an effort underway here to 464 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: destroy Trump's chances at the presidency that do not allow 465 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: the American people to actually vote on all of this. 466 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: Isn't that so fascinating? I mean, if you were to 467 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: just take a step back for a moment, somehow the 468 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: Democrat apparatus believes both things to be true. That you 469 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: could have a candidate who is so dangerous to the country, 470 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: so much of a threat to our republic, that we 471 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: have to dispense with any and all constitutional protections, rule 472 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: of law, approach, the most basic fairness. We have to 473 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: get rid of all because otherwise the American people might 474 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: actually vote him back into power. Oh, they don't see 475 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: that there's any disconnect there, right, And remember, in the 476 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: background of all this too, the people that are trying 477 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: to use the courts in a variety of ways as 478 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: we see, that are trying to use the courts to 479 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: stop Trump from being able to run, are the same voices. 480 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: And you know that you go and check yourself. The 481 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: same individuals who will then go on TV and say, 482 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: there's not wrong with what the Biden family and what 483 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's role has been in selling influence to foreign 484 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: actors and foreign countries, including the Chinese Communist Party. Nothing 485 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: to see there, that there is nothing of injustice in 486 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: the fact that Joe Biden's son was able to not 487 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: pay taxes for years, hide millions of dollars of income, 488 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: do all kinds of other illegal stuff involving drugs and 489 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: prostitutes and buying firearms and all this, all of that, 490 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: they don't see any injustice or any double standard in it. 491 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: They want the rule of law, individuals, rule of law people. 492 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: In the Democrat part, it's outrageous. It'd be one thing 493 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: if we were in a situation where the expectation of 494 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: the Democrat party was that the law is the law, 495 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: and everybody is subject to it, everybody must obey it 496 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: without fear or favor, and justice is blind, all that stuff, right, 497 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: But what they actually do and the way that they 498 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: view this is the law is a tool of their 499 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: power and really a tool of mass persuasion or coercion 500 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: for them to use againstcole enemies, and that they can 501 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: force people to bend the knee, they can destroy poses them, 502 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: and they can pretend that this is all rule of 503 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: law in the process. There are few things that are 504 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: more dangerous for a free society than exactly what the 505 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: Democrats right now. Honestly, And isn't it amazing that they 506 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: say the same thing about our side. One of us 507 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: is right and one of us is wrong. We can't 508 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: both be right. You have to remember that about all 509 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: this either what we are doing is egregious, crosses the 510 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: rubicon and dispenses with centuries of American basic jurisprudence about 511 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: rule of law and just the way we approach elections. 512 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: One of us is right and one of us is wrong, 513 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: and I think we all know very clearly. But it 514 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: means that we're heading into an election year that we've 515 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: never seen before, and there needs to be a preparation 516 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: for that on our side. You know, there's still a 517 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: bit of a fixation. 518 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: I mean. 519 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: Telling me, but what about twenty twenty into that ide 520 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: we're in the midst of the next election. We really 521 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: don't want this one to end up the way the 522 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: last one did, right, So I think we need to 523 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: focus on the road right in front of us as 524 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: we're diving eighty miles an hour, and not have a 525 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: conversation that is fixated on what was going miles ago, 526 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: when we should have hit the other exit or whatever, 527 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: or when they that doesn't if you want to talk 528 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: to me about how we prevent the cheating this time 529 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: or what we need to do to change things, yes, 530 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: absolutely that's necessary. But people that say, well, we're gonna 531 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 2: uncover things or we're going to figure out what they No, 532 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: they're just trying to take their win and expand upon it, 533 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: or rather, you know, take their power and build. And 534 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: our side loves to just have these purity contests about 535 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: who believes the most when it comes to how evil 536 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: the Democrats are really going to be when it comes 537 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: to elections, or who is the most hardcore about fighting 538 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: the establishment or the uniparty. I'm like, we're not fighting 539 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: any establishment or uniparty if we let Joe Biden get 540 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: four more years, right, I think we can all agree 541 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: on that one. So I just I would call for 542 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: the focus to be on winning and like I said, 543 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: the immediate I'm not talking about five years down the line. 544 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about where we are right now. They are 545 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: trying to change the battlefield that we are currently on 546 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: and do it in a way that we can't win. 547 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: So that's what we are up against. And I think 548 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: that understanding what those challenges are and understanding what their 549 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: strategy will be is is absolutely essential. And yeah, team, 550 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: are we able to take calls? Yet? By the way, 551 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: do we know are we are the lines up for calls? 552 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, I'm not yet sure we're working on. At 553 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: some point we're getting you know, we've patched up the hull. 554 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: The ship is no longer taking on water. As you 555 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: can see. I'm the sales are up and we're moving 556 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: forward here team on the show, but we don't have 557 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: all of our cannons loaded, if you get if we 558 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: need a little more, a little more time to get 559 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: everything ready to rock. But the show will continue here 560 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: live on the air, of course, and as soon as 561 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: I can, because we had we had five I'm telling 562 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: you the truth. We had five great calls lined up 563 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: in that first hour, five great calls. I was so 564 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: just as I was about to go, all of a sudden, 565 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: they're like, cop, we need more power, and I was like, 566 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: oh man, we're losing. We're losing. We're not going to 567 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: have light speed, you know, we can't fire the photon 568 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: torpedoes or whatever. It is. Rough its rough. Com back, 569 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: we're coming with Scotti is on it. He's on it, 570 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: and the ship is moving forward. 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Find the guys on the 597 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 598 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: All right, we've got Congressman Chip Roy in the mix now, 599 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: and I believe he's on the ground in Iowa, has 600 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: been recently. Congressman Roy, appreciate you being here with us. 601 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 8: Great to be on Yeah, my names, Iowa just a 602 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 8: house skipping a jump from Iowa state just in an 603 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 8: Governor de Santis and Governor Kim Reynolds, and great to 604 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 8: be here with the great books of Iowa. 605 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: Now, you have openly endorsed Governor DeSantis, as has Governor 606 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: Kim Reynolds. A lot of people are looking at the 607 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: polls right now and they're saying, oh, it just feels 608 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: like too much of a gap. What is your response 609 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: to that in terms of this primary where Trump is, 610 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: where DeSantis is the rest of the competition. You know, 611 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: for the DeSantis listeners in this audience, or I should say, 612 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: the Santis supporters in this audience, what's your case to 613 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: them that this thing isn't over yet? 614 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 615 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, you know, spending some time here 616 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 8: in Iowa, you get a sense of how important it 617 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 8: is to them and how the extent to which all 618 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 8: the roads get in the White House lead through Iowa. 619 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 8: It's a real thing. I mean, these people show up, 620 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 8: they're informed, they're engaged, some are decided, some are undecided, 621 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 8: and they're asking great questions. We do not coordinate people 622 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 8: in this country, right. We do not anoint the people. 623 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if you were previously the president or 624 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 8: if you're in New can or whatever. You don't just 625 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 8: get to just walk down and say, yep, I'm the president. 626 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 8: You go through the process. The only vote that's going 627 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 8: to matter in Iowa as the one on January fifteenth. 628 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 8: You know, look, not on think the University of Texas 629 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 8: was ranked fourth in the nation in the preseason, Paul, 630 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 8: But you play the season out and now Texas is 631 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 8: going to be playing Washington in the Sugar Bowl, and 632 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 8: we'll see what happens in Alabama and Michigan. But the 633 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 8: fact is, you got to play the game. You got 634 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 8: to play out the season here, we got to go out, 635 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 8: we got to earn votes. And the fact is the 636 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 8: reaction on the ground is fantastic. There's been an enormous enthusiasm. 637 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 8: Governor DeSantis has a message, a vision, he can serve 638 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 8: for eight years. He's done extraordinary things. He's delivered for 639 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 8: the people of Florida. And there's a reason that President 640 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 8: Trump doesn't bother to go out and debate. It's because, frankly, 641 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 8: I'm not sure it would fare that well. And I 642 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 8: think people should ask that question, why won't President Trump 643 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 8: debate Governor DeSantis? 644 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think the Trump supporters in the audience, and 645 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: there are many many of them would say he doesn't 646 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: debate him because he doesn't have to because look at 647 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: the polls. Right, So there's this sense that what's the point. 648 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: People already know what Donald Trump stands for. He was 649 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: already president. They're aware. But I look at I think 650 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: there's also there's a case to be made, Congressman, that 651 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: it's something of a responsibility for anyone running for office 652 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: to expose themselves to those kinds of questions and to 653 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: be willing to take the heat live and on stage. So, 654 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I could see both sides of it. 655 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 8: Yeah, So my question would be this is, you know, 656 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 8: what do we want to know about what President Trump 657 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 8: would do in the next four years? 658 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 4: Right? 659 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 8: Would he do again what he did with shutting down 660 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 8: the biggest economy in the history of the world, causing 661 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 8: all sorts of problems in our country by shutting it down, 662 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 8: including subsequently six to eight trillion dollars of additional debt. 663 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 8: Would he do that again? Would he give a medal 664 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 8: to Anthony Fauci on his last day in office? 665 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: Again? 666 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 8: Would he again choose to regulate bump stocks, which then 667 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 8: set the stage for the pistol brace fans for all 668 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 8: of the gun owners out there who don't want their 669 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 8: second amend of rights in fringe that's now been struck 670 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 8: down by a circuit court. Would he do that again? 671 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 8: Would he release people out of prison again in sort 672 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 8: of in the name of criminal justice, where we've now 673 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 8: got criminals on the streets? Would he do that again? 674 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: You know? 675 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 8: Would he agree to sit down with Paul Ryan to 676 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 8: pursue an amnesty bill instead of a border security bill 677 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 8: first in twenty eighteen, leaving us fully exposed without new 678 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 8: laws to check an administration like Biden Again. I can 679 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 8: keep doing this all afternoon if you want. He should 680 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 8: have to answer those questions. I supported Trump at twenty twenty. 681 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 8: I'll support him if he's the nominee. 682 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: He did a lot of a Congressman, if I can, 683 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 2: you know, and we don't endorse here on the show. 684 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: It's a standing rule. We've had it from the very beginning. 685 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: So I just want to try to represent all sides 686 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: of the discussion as we're talking going into Iowa, all 687 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: those things you said, let's just assume for a moment 688 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: that someone doesn't even want to engage and give the 689 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: counterpoint on the specifics of it. What if they just 690 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: turn around, they look at you and say, well, Congressman, 691 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 2: if all that's true, why is Donald Trump ahead? Call 692 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: it forty points in the polls? 693 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 4: You know? 694 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: Why is the Republican base so unified behind him and 695 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: has been for so many months given what you see 696 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 2: as some vulnerabilities from his presidency that raise questions? 697 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I think there's a lot of 698 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 8: people who haven't been able to see the answers those 699 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 8: questions and don't know a lot of those facts. Number one. 700 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 8: Number two, I don't believe in polls deciding the fate 701 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 8: of our country in twenty sixteen, if we'd listened to 702 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 8: the polls, then we would have coronated Hillary Clinton. No, right, 703 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, And the fact is, I just 704 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 8: was in a room full of people, I said, hey, 705 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 8: how many of you think that we should decide the 706 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 8: elections by polls? Leaving polls? Not one person raised their 707 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 8: hands that they trust the polls. The fact is you've 708 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 8: got to go through the process. The American people need 709 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 8: to hear the debates. They need to understand more about 710 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 8: Governor DeSantis, more about other candidates, more about how President 711 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 8: Trump when handled the next four years. And I think 712 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 8: that's critically important. And so at the end of the day, 713 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 8: like I said, we're gonna I'm going to support the 714 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 8: Republican nominating but I believe it should be Governor de 715 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 8: Santis because he actually stood up to Fauci. He actually 716 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 8: stood up to Disney, he actually stood up to the 717 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 8: education establishment in Florida. He's actually cut the deficits in 718 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 8: debt in Florida. They've reduced their debt by twenty five percent. 719 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 8: He's at net migration jobs blowing into Florida economic growth. 720 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 8: He stood up for cops when in the summer of 721 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 8: twenty twenty our cities were burning frankly under President Trump's watch. 722 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 8: There are reasons Governor DeSantis off too. You know, the 723 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 8: altar of those who say you must fall in line, 724 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 8: young man, No, I don't. I have an obligation to 725 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 8: go fight with the people that I represent in Congress. 726 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 8: But as a as a human, as a man, as 727 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 8: a father, as a husband, I have an obligation to 728 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 8: go stand up for who I believe in, and I 729 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 8: believe in Rod the Sandus. 730 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: Speaking of Congressman Chip Roy and Congress I want to 731 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: ask you about Governor Abbott's new powers for your home 732 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: state with regard to the border and Texas now having 733 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: state powers to enforce laws around illegal immigration. How do 734 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 2: you feel about this move? Do you think it will 735 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: withstand judicial scrutiny? Could this actually change things in a 736 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: meaningful way? 737 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:31,959 Speaker 6: Yeah? 738 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 8: I mean well, obviously, in Congress, we've been trying to 739 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 8: do everything we can with an administration that's totally ignoring 740 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 8: their constitutional duty to secure the board of the United States. 741 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 8: I've been beating the drug for the entirety of the 742 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 8: time I've been in Congress. I've been going down to 743 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 8: the southern border. I've been trying to present the problems. 744 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 8: It's as bad as it's ever been because the Anthony 745 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 8: Maorkis and President Biden refused to enforce the laws we 746 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 8: need Congress to use the power of the person to 747 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 8: check them. I hope we're going to do that. Speaker 748 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 8: Johnson is pledging that he's going to hold the line 749 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 8: and say, you know, we're not going to give anything 750 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 8: to Ukraine until we secure the border. I hope we 751 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 8: hold to that. That's my position. But I'm just one 752 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 8: four hundred and thirty fifth of one half of one 753 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 8: third of the federal government. So there's only so much 754 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 8: you can do with that besides use your voice. But 755 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 8: Governor Abbitt is one hundred percent right to step in 756 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 8: because of the failure of the federal government under the constitution. 757 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 8: In our republican form of government, states have the ability 758 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 8: under our constitution to defend our states if the federal 759 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 8: government refuses to do so. We're under an invasion right now, 760 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 8: and it's an invasion that is both economic, but it's 761 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 8: also causing death and arm to Texans. I have six 762 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 8: kids who died from fentanyl poisoning in the school district 763 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 8: I reside in, just outside of Austin, Texas. Think about that, 764 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 8: just last year, six kids. We have untold damage to 765 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 8: our kids with the federal poisonings. But not to mention 766 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 8: the damage to ranches, the damage to all of our 767 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 8: schools getting overloaded, our hospitals, our communities. We spent twelve 768 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 8: and a half billion dollars with a bee. It's bigger 769 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 8: than most states budgets on dealing with the border in 770 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 8: the absence of the federal government. So you're darn right. 771 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 8: Governor Rabbit is right to lean into this and start 772 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 8: trying to exercise more state power. 773 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: Congressman ship Roy, appreciate you being with us, sir. Good 774 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: luck to you out there and enjoy some some handshakes 775 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: and some good food out there in Iowa. 776 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 8: Just got some Kurds and it's great, and you have 777 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 8: a very merry Christmas. Great to be on the show. 778 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Merry Christmas to you too. We'll take 779 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: some of your calls to close out here. Team eight 780 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: hundred and two eight two two eight a two, Light 781 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: up those lines, let them up, lick a Christmas tree, 782 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: and we'll come back in a second. But when President 783 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: Biden botched the Afghan withdrawal in twenty twenty one, it 784 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: sent a message to the world that America was not 785 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: ready to defend its allies. Six months later, Russia invaded 786 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: Ukraine and now We're witnessing a war in the Middle 787 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: East that's escalating quickly, with tensions rising on the Red 788 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: Sea and neighboring countries. I mean, there's a lot of 789 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: chaos out there in the world right now. But guess 790 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: what Former Wall Street insider Tikachwari thinks that despite all 791 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: of these risks, the biggest one isn't actually being dragged 792 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 2: a due an escalation in Ukraine or what's going on 793 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. The biggest risk we face is 794 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 2: the future of the US dollar. 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