1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bett Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Alright, it's you live on a first Friday edition at 7 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily were presented by bally Bett. I'm merely 8 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: bow nice shot at you. That is the great z 9 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: how you live in today? Buddy good Man got a 10 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: little more. 11 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, this is the day where it looks 12 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: like it really is going to take shape. There could 13 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: be still some moves to go, and obviously we certainly 14 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 3: hope that one of those moves for the Cleveland Browns 15 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: is going to be to get Quinn John Judkins in here. 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: But a year after you had twenty seven players claimed 17 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: in the National Football League. That's what it was a 18 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: year ago. This year, and see what the total is. 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: He got two for Carolina for six, eight, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, 20 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, two, twenty three, twenty four, and then 21 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: Tennessee with four of them twenty eight, So right at it, right, 22 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: that's number twenty eight claims. This year the Browns have 23 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: made two of them. We knew they were going to 24 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: add a running back, Rahem Sanders. They also added a 25 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: defensive back jerk Bernard Converse out of lsu So, a 26 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: corner and a running back. 27 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: That's the bill of what they look for. These guys 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: were sec players. Raheem Sanders started at Arkansas, was a 29 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yard rusher a couple of years ago, played 30 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: three years at Arkansas and then played last year at 31 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: South Carolina. Ran for about eight hundred yards last year 32 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: four point eight to carry, but was over six as 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: a sophomore year at Arkansas. So had that he had 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: the size that you're looking for, you had to have 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: a hammer. So that would seem to be the reason 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: that he is coming in here. And that leads to, 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: of course the obvious, which is, you know, any sort 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: of timetable on quin Shawn Judkins, And that I just 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: go I was listening to Schefty this morning and he 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: somebody asked him directly, like will quin Shawn Brown quin 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: Shawn Judkins be on the Browns for opening Day, and 42 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: he said no, that was his feeling on it that 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: he wouldn't be So that's great. 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: That just seems like a major fail. It was a 45 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: thirty six pick in the draft. 46 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: I know. 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: Now he's the only second round pick in this draft 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: that will not be yet one round. 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: He did follow that right back up with saying, if 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: you would have told me on Saturday that the Trey 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Hendrickson thing would be done on Monday, I would have 53 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: said no. So the reality in this business is it 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: just takes one phone call and for someone to acquiesce 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: and then that changes. But his feeling was that no. 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 3: I wonder once he starts missing game checks, because that's 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: what happens when you don't play. 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: Here's the thing on that though, he I don't know 59 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: that it wasn't like Jeremiah's making, but he definitely made 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: upwards of a couple million dollars last year to High State, 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: so he's not in a He's those type of things 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: that you could hold over a player. I don't in 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: the case of him, who was a marquee back who 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: took advantage of NL not just an old miss but 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: big Ley last year. O Hio state he might have 66 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: a couple million bucks laying around. Probably does for sure, 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: So I don't know that in the old days. You're right, 68 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: that is a crippling one. All of a sudden you're 69 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: not getting paid and you're like, wait, what is going on? Well, 70 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: they have a little bit of cushion now built in 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: because of the nal situation in college football. 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: Let me do some quick math. Seventeen games over four 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: season sixty eight, it's basically one hundred and seventy grand 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: a game. 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not nothing. 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people I don't who are 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: willing to throw away one hundred and seventy grand. No, No, 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: you're right, so that that will be I think ultimately 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: because Jaden Higgins was signed right around him, right, and 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: that's who I use as the as the cop. He's 81 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: eleven point seven million over four years, which would be 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: broken down to one hundred and seventy two thousand and 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: fifty eight dollars per game. So that's that's nothing to 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: sneeze at. 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 5: No. 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: By the way, that adds up pretty fast. You go 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: through four of those and now you're at six hundred 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: and eighty thousand. Yeah, you go through three those you're 89 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 3: at half a million dollars. So that, to me, that's 90 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: a tough scenario and that's not a scenario that anybody 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: wants now. Well, to me, interesting for the Browns now 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: is to see they've got to cut two players, which 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: we always knew. I still think one will likely come 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: from the tight end room. Just feels like four tight 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: ends was a definite. So that was the one thing 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: that completely caught me by surprise. And then the corner room, 97 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: will it be a corner for a corner, That's what 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: we'll That's what we'll see. But yeah, you've got a 99 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: situation here, you know for the Browns where I didn't 100 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: expect it to be huge. Two was actually probably one 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: of the bigger hauls in a while for this football team. 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: But again, if if, if it happens that a veteran 103 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: is released for one of these guys, because they're both rookies, right. 104 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: Rahem Sanders was an undrafted free agent. He led the 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: Chargers with one hundred yard and one yards rushing two 106 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: touchdowns in the preseason. Now under four yards carry, but 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: he's six two, two twenty. 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: He is a big banger back. 109 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: That's what they were looking for. That's what they go 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: out and that's what they get. 111 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerck Bernard Converse, who was the corner they claimed 112 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: from the Jets. He plays two years of NFL experience. 113 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: He played twenty three and twenty two out of LSU. 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: He's a sixth round pick out of LSU in twenty 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: twenty three. 116 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: Are you surprised at adric estimate? Big guy obviously was 117 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: a very good college player but has not been an 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: NFL success. 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: Boy, I don't. It would be silly for me to 120 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: comment on that because I don't know what happened day 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: to day there. Sure, but coming out of Notre Dame 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: and and if he indid fact get cut and was unclaimed, 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: that's and that's the case. Right, Did we go through 124 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: all of this he's not on any of these lists. No, Yeah, 125 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: that's a surprise to me. It's a bit of a surprise. 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: But you never know, I mean. But that's the other thing. 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: One thing that I think it's been abundantly clear, and 128 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: it's never been more clear other than been made abundantly 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: clear of the last month, is that there is a 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: perception of what happens outside of buildings. Oh yeah, that 131 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: is so different than the reality that happens inside the building. 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: Now you and I are inside the building, right, So 133 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: we have the real truth here, Bootsy. And if you 134 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: think about what is what everything that's transpired here in 135 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: the last month. My hunch, and that was magnified because 136 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: of the people who were involved in it. My hunch 137 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: is that similar situations are happening all over the league, 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: where there is realities behind closed doors that you don't 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: at all match up with the perception outside. 140 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: That is, I didn't get the. 141 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 6: Memo on this. 142 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: What is this? 143 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh I don't like that? What is this? 144 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 7: What is this? 145 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: What is this? 146 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 6: Ye? 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: Pots bum wheel heavy rap, bum wheel, I don't like that. 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: And that also that doesn't look like it's first day 149 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: on crutches. 150 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 8: That was. 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: He had a strong gate there. 152 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: Did you ever have that as a kid where you 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: wanted crutches to just and then all of a sudden 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: as soon as you try and you're like, oh, this 155 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: sucks so bad. 156 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: The good new is I never really had to. 157 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 6: No, I haven't either. 158 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: I never had any thing lower body injury that required it. 159 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 9: No. 160 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 6: Never. 161 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: All right, So as we I suppose what we ought 162 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: to do is go over the original fifty three release 163 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: from yesterday. What jumps out obviously the headline in terms 164 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: of I don't believe we had that was the tight 165 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: end and the fact that they kept four protecting. 166 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: I thought even they might get away with two. I 167 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: thought the two running backs we said yesterday was certainly 168 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: in play, but I thought that I thought they would 169 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: maybe try. I thought three tight ends is the number. 170 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: It'll set a lot and we'll I'll be curious to 171 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: see if that's where that move comes from. One of 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: the things they do sometimes in situations like this is 173 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: they keep a guy they think that maybe could get 174 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: picked up. But once teams kind of go through the 175 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: first round and you cut them, it's you have a 176 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: better chance usually of getting them back to your practice 177 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: squad at that point. So we'll see. I think that 178 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: will be that'll be an interest one. But yeah, the 179 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: four tight ends, that was certainly a shocker to me. 180 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: Twenty five, twenty five, and that is because, and we 181 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: did allude to this yesterday because of all the injuries 182 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: at linebacker, because two guys who were going to be 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: on your fifty three, which were Bookie Watson and Winston Reid. 184 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: Bookie Watson's on IR for the year, Winston reads on 185 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: ir to come back after four games. You end up 186 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: with Easton Muscarinus Arnold, making it so that gives you 187 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: at that point, right five linebackers. So that's where you 188 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: picked up one on the defensive side. We had the 189 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: ten to ten. We thought it'll be ten six ten 190 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: ten d line ten DB's six. So now you're gonna 191 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: add this corner. So right now I would say it's 192 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: a nervy time for Dom Jones or Miles Harden or 193 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: Cam Mitchell. I mean, it's gonna be one of those 194 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: three or they decide they're going to go six corners, 195 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: and they at this point they think, okay, maybe after 196 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: the cuts of all happened, if we cut Easton muscarin 197 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: Is Arnold, we can get him back to the fifth, 198 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: to the practice squad. He'll be really, in essence, our 199 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: fifth linebacker, just on. 200 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: The practice squad. 201 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: So that's where these are kind of the tough situations. 202 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: Now you're looking at guys they think that they probably 203 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: can get away with cutting that will come back to 204 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: them if they do. 205 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's Look, this is the last and I 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: said this yesterday, these are the last spots on rosters. 207 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean These are the very bottom of the roster 208 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: that you're dealing with here. To me, it's more what 209 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: I think is more interesting about it is how do 210 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: Andrew Barry, Kevin Stefanski and the people who are their 211 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: counterparts around the league, what do they feel are the 212 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: strength and weaknesses of their teams? Where are their depths, 213 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: where are their concerns, where are their injuries. You saw 214 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: a flood of deals yesterday, More deals are happening today. 215 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: This is how it's going to go here for the 216 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: next few days. But quite honestly, nothing that's going to 217 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: happen yesterday or today is going to determine the outcome 218 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: of a team, save for Micah Parsons not playing in 219 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: Dallas or playing in Dallas. I mean, those are the 220 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: ones that determine how a team goes in twenty twenty five, 221 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: the hold ends, those are the ones to pay attention 222 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: to on that. That's why McLaurin getting done, Hendrickson getting done. 223 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: Those are big signings to get those things done and 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: put them in the rearview mirror. And the only one 225 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: of those I think you're waiting on is is Minka 226 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: or not Mike. I'm sorry Micah and then the other 227 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: thing you're waiting on is this is their penalties doled out, 228 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: so the Rashi Rice thing today. And then obviously the 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: other thing around the league that's uncertain at this point 230 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: is quin Shan I mean, that's hanging over all of this, 231 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: like we have and we've heard nothing in terms of 232 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: any idea of where this is going or or or 233 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: why it's taking so long to get it done, or 234 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: if there's more to it than what it feels like 235 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: on the surface. Who knows, But that's that's still out there. 236 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: It's yes, and it is I think I probably speak 237 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: for everybody. It's frustrating. 238 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 6: It is. 239 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: It's a frustrating situation. And you go back to the 240 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: fact that this was like the kick and the gut 241 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: when we finally came back from quote unquote summer break 242 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: and then it's going to be okay, here we go 243 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: training camp. 244 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 6: What was it? 245 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: We came back on a like Monday, and that came 246 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: out on like a Friday, and that was that. Going 247 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: back that quin Shawn Judkins being involved in that and 248 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: not being here was probably of all the people not 249 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: named Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward, probably the worst person 250 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: that it could have happened to on this team because 251 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: number one, he comes in from the Buckeyes where they 252 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 3: just won a national championship. Number two, we're going back 253 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: to our identity as a run heavy football team. This 254 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: legend is no longer here. And this was supposed to 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: be guy drafted basically in the exact same spot. 256 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: Yep. 257 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: That this was supposed to be the guy to be 258 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: that air apparent and be really the foundation of our offense. 259 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Yep. 260 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, if you were out here in 261 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: OTAs or in mini camp, you were like, yeah, I 262 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: see it. And then Poof gone, Hicks, Poof gone, MJ 263 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Poof gone in a very sad injury. But the Quinchean 264 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: one is so massive. 265 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: Now. 266 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: The guy they brought in, his nickname is Rocket. I 267 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 3: like a nickname like Rocket. He's a big guy. Two 268 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: twenty five, two thirty six to two and runs a 269 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: four four six, So this is a big guy with speed. Now, 270 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: we didn't have a huge yards per carry average in 271 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: the preseason, but led their team, as I said, one 272 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty total yards two touchdowns. Was a fan 273 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: favorite of the Chargers fans because I think he runs 274 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: a very physical style. Yeah, so he's gonna have an 275 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 3: opportunity to step in here and do it. 276 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 9: Uh. 277 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: Jered Bernard Converse, cornerback prospect in the twenty twenty three draft, 278 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 3: Big ras guy relative athletics score nine point seven to seven. 279 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: They like him four four forty big can jump, so 280 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: that fits the profile. Yeah, they get They got a 281 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: couple of guys that are pretty good, darn good athletes. 282 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 283 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: You know, the Browns have made moves like this at times, 284 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: like whether it was a Khalif oh Man negotiat Look 285 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: at the chocolate down there, Look at that chocolate rich mathogany. 286 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: The thing is, you can't just at the pant or 287 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: what's on the wrist or the jacket. Yeah, you have 288 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: to take it all in. 289 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: It's almost too much of it. 290 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: It's too much. It's it's a Wednesday. 291 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 6: It's a Wednesday. 292 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: I we'lread even play this week? 293 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: No, we don't play. I mean, come on, so anyway, 294 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: this is not going to be Look, we've sign Khalif 295 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: Halassi at this point, right, We've signed a bunch of 296 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: people at this point. This isn't like the big needle mover. 297 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: You hope you can find a diamond in the rough here, 298 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: But this is a Brown team right now with the 299 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: Quinchhn Judkins situation, that is not where it wants to 300 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: be running the ball now. Jerome Ford last year five 301 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: point two yards carrier. I like Dylan Samson, but this 302 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: is not where they really thought that this team was 303 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: going to be certainly what this run game was going 304 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: to look like at all. 305 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: No, no, and that one is still hanging out there. 306 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: What are your when you look at this initial fifty 307 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: three that dropped yesterday at three eleven, what what are 308 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: some of your favorites stories from like making a fifty three? Yeah, 309 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean Gauge jumps to me. I mean he's kind 310 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: of been one of the. 311 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: Stories of all you want. Yeah, and he's doing the 312 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: interview yesterday, talked about how he showed up in one 313 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: of the ball these breakdowns and how that was like 314 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: the coolest thing ever and found out we found out 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: that he worked out with Miles over the summer. He's 316 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: a good one. You know, there have been a lot 317 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: brand Body Calhoun, I go back, that's like in the 318 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: way it was a great story. Who made it as 319 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: an under a free agent, Taylor Gabriel. It was a 320 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: great story. Guy came into our rookie tryout and then 321 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: ends up getting into you know camp and then makes 322 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: the team, ends up going on to have a very 323 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: nice career and make a good bit of money. He's 324 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: signed a pretty big deal down in Atlanta where he 325 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: went with Kyle followed Kyle there. Those are definitely some 326 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: good ones. Some tough ones were like when you know, 327 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: but also we love the Scottish Hammer, but like Scottish 328 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: Hammer and Cole like that's a tough situation, like d 329 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: hop just gone where I don't know if we'll get 330 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: a chance to say goodbye. Don't love dup is a 331 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: is a human being. So that's the stuff that's so 332 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: hard about it. Yes, and it's often these things that 333 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: like you're this guy made it. You're excited for this guy. 334 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: Dearanis Johnson was one. Dearren Johnson was a great one. 335 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: It just unfortunately it's it's rare that it has a 336 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: major impact on what you're doing. But when you can 337 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: find somebody that can become a contributor, you know, going 338 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: back to my early career to Sean Gibson, was you know, 339 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: when you're lea the league in interceptions, that a very 340 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: long career still be in the league for right now. Yeah, 341 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: you know, it is the safety so those when you 342 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: find those, that's huge. And this is, look, we've said 343 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: it in many ways with where we're at, this team 344 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: needs to be have a kind of a transformative rookie class. 345 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: And now, depending on where these releases come, we could 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: be up to as many as fourteen rookies. And I'm 347 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: still counting quin John Judkins because I do believe that 348 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: he is going to be back, but you could have 349 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: as many as fourteen of those guys back and we'll 350 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: see what that what that ends up looking like. Right 351 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: like this is this is a young team and then 352 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: it's got though a sprinkling of older established players, Pro 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: Bowl players where you're talking about Miles Garrett, were you're 354 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: talking about, Joel Betonio Wyatt Teller, Jack Conklin, Joe Flacco 355 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: for crying out louds our quarterback at forty years of age, 356 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: Denzel warn Chief, Denzel Malie Collins, who's a total veteran. 357 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: Now that's come in here, that Jerome Baker is a veteran. 358 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: I think when when ownership said that we're in transition, 359 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: that's this roster is a transitional roster. You know, you 360 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: have to your point fourteen first year guys. But then 361 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: the smattering of like what I would almost refer to 362 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: as like ultra veterans. Yep, you know, oh, and it's 363 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: it's you're trying to put it all together and find 364 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: a recipe for success. And you know, one thing that 365 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: we had talked about a lot. The other thing that 366 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: is and this is just a it's just and we 367 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit yesterday. But just the 368 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 2: way that I thought they were gonna go about their 369 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: business offensively eight weeks ago compared to with the way 370 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: that I think they're going to go about their business 371 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: now could not have been more different. The way that 372 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: we got here is a wild thing. But this is 373 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: going to be a different offense than the one I 374 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: thought we were gonna get in July, and a lot, 375 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: I mean, because it was going to be Kenny, it 376 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: was gonna be Quinchean and who knows. 377 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: And by the way, I'll be honest with you, without Quincheon, 378 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: I think it almost had to be Flacco. Yeah, because 379 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to be We're gonna have to be 380 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: more of a throwing team without Quinjohn Judkins than we 381 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: wanted to be before, whereas I think Kenny fit much 382 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: more in that in the play Action boot game and 383 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: all of those things. So not only did he get hurt, 384 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: now you don't have Quinshon here at least as of now. 385 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: And I'm you know, when you're like in a young man, 386 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: and this would have been not really necessarily our experience much. 387 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: But I'll say, for like the kids today, I guess 388 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: when we were young, maybe we could be like on 389 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: an AOL chat. Yeah, I remember the Aol chat. Yeah, 390 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: and you know, you like like a girl and you 391 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: send a message and you're just like refreshing to see 392 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: if like get her buffer, get a message back, like 393 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: where's a message? Like That's how I am refreshing news 394 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: for like quinch On. I'm just trying to will it 395 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: out of pure will in my being. I'm trying to 396 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: will it that he will be here. 397 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking potentially could have happened yesterday, by 398 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: the initial fifty three it didn't. 399 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: And yeah, now. 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: That you do this deal for uh Raheem Sanders, I 401 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: mean that's your that's your band aid for the quench 402 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: On problem at the moment, yep. Is that so you're 403 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: you're kind of covering your bases on these things. We 404 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: do not know like what's happening in those conversations. We 405 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: know that there was a big, a big deal with 406 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: second round picks and guaranteed money because of what Houston did, 407 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: and that kind of forced a chain reaction around the 408 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: league with second round picks. But we also now have 409 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: an incident. The other thing we don't know is the 410 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: NFL's involvement in that incident about it. I know, I'm 411 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: with you, but I at the same time, like no 412 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: one knows more than us how how those things, how 413 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: they can do whatever they want for those factors. So 414 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: you know, that thing's just kind of hanging out there, 415 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: and I do think that it's really important. I look, 416 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: do you think you know the Kansas City NFL Rashi 417 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: Rice situation. I'm sure we'll talk about a greater length later, 418 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: but now at least Kansas City knows totally, and like 419 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: you can prepare for it, you can, you know. 420 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: So this is Tom Pelisaier or the NFL initially proposed 421 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: the suspension of ten to twelve games. Rice's team and 422 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: attorneys fought for a much shorter band. So it took 423 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: a while, but now an answer. He'll miss the first 424 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: six games and be able to move forward with his 425 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: career because originally it kind of sounded like it was 426 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: going to be in limbo and he was going to be, 427 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: you know, in the middle of the season, get to spend. 428 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: Now he's out for six weeks, but they know it 429 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: and everybody can move on. What I don't understand is 430 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: that this incident with quin Shan we just talked about 431 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: when we found out about it happened prior to the 432 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: start of training camp. This has been a very very 433 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: very long training camp, right, yes, So what's six weeks 434 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: ago roughly is when this happened. All the charges have 435 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: been dropped for at least two weeks because I want 436 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: to say we were in. 437 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: We were in Philly, you guys, right, it was Philly 438 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: week because it was right going into that game and 439 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: there was some whisper that maybe he was. 440 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: Going to show up the h So two weeks ago, 441 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: what are incident happened month and a half ago. Two 442 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 3: weeks ago, all charges were dropped, not a settlement. Charges 443 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: were dropped, yep, based on the law enforcement saying that 444 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: there was not enough to pursue charges. Yeah, what could 445 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: be taking that long? Like it feels on some level 446 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: that lots of these things are arbitrary anyway. Why can't 447 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: we just be like no games, three games, Yeah, let's go. 448 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. 449 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: It's the only thing the NFL does that resembles the 450 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: NC Double A. The NC DOUBLEA does this. It takes 451 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: them six years to adjudicate anything, Like you have the info, 452 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: let's go, yeah, get it done. Just at least you 453 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: can plan for it then, right, And I think that's 454 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: the thing that gets really frustrating with all of these things. 455 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's that part's kind of that 456 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: part's sitting out there and you you know, it's you 457 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 2: just have no idea how it's gonna how it's gonna go. 458 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: In terms of kind of the calendar for the rest 459 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: of this and today was waiver Wire pick day, and 460 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: we've gone through all of that. The team will hit 461 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: the practice field in about an hour hour, ten minutes. 462 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: They'll practice one more time on Thursday, and then they 463 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: are off Friday through Sunday, and then next week it 464 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: is game week and away we go. So that's where 465 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: that stands at this point. I think we covered most 466 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: everything in terms of the lineman. Everything kind of seemed 467 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: the way we thought it was going to be. Yep, 468 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: we knew about Eastern Mascaras are the only Yesterday, the 469 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: only thing was. 470 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: The four tight ends. 471 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: Kicker. 472 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: I mean we basically said that's yeah, Well. 473 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: If you listen to that, if you listen to you 474 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: guys at the end of the radio call on on Saturday, 475 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: and you spoke about that drive and the ability to 476 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: knock down that field goal, and you illustrated this yesterday, 477 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: like that's what that was about. I mean, that was 478 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: that to me is kind of like the NFL preseason 479 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: in a nutshell. We spent so much time at the 480 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: top end of the sport, you know, the Mahomes, Kelsey Allen, 481 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: of course, Lamar Miles all that stuff. But the but 482 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: the other end of the sport is the last moments 483 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: of a otherwise meaningless preseason game between the Cleveland Browns 484 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: and the La Rams, the Rams of which loosely participated in. Yeah, 485 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: and you go and get a drive to set up 486 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: a field goal, to see if a guy in the 487 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: most pressure packed odd situation of all time can bury it, 488 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: and he did. If he misses the kick. 489 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: He cannot be your kicker. 490 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: He can't be your kicker. That was so his NFL 491 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: life was on the line, and he piped it, and 492 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: he piped it, and it was if you didn't know, 493 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: and I wasn't watching at that point. It was something 494 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: I saw later when all of the conversation around the 495 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: last drive and all of that, like trying to get 496 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: to the bottom of it, and I actually you and 497 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: I were texting, I'm like, oh, because at that point 498 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: I was done. I'd seen enough. I wanted to see 499 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: Gabriel play. I wanted to see Sanders play. I saw that. 500 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 2: I didn't need to see anything else at that point. 501 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: I know that if you play the games, you want 502 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: to win him I get it. But to be honest, 503 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if to me matters to Kevin, the 504 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: players and all of those guys, But to me, I 505 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: don't care win or lose. In the preseason, I wanted 506 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: to see the two rookie quarterbacks play. That's all I needed. Well, 507 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: so once that was done, I was good. 508 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 10: The quarterback that led us on that game winning drive 509 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 10: just signed with the Ravens practice squad. 510 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: He's just going to be best BA. 511 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean that's where he was. 512 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: He went to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, for sure, pro bowler. 513 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: But that's that's one of those instances of how crazy 514 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: this league is. That the the halves. We spend all 515 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: the time talking about the haves, and rightfully so that's 516 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: where championships are decided, but the the try to halves 517 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: at the bottom. That one play switched the trajectory of 518 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: two people's lives. 519 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: Yes, one kick, Yes, Yes, that's that's why that was big. 520 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: I think that has a lot of big That's why 521 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: Snoop was in there. I think to get to that 522 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: spot because they need to see They needed to see 523 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: that well bigger. There couldn't have been a bigger spot 524 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: to put him in. Now, do you wish it was 525 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: a forty five yard field goal? Maybe, But nonetheless, if 526 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: you're gonna if the pressure was gonna get you, you were 527 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: gonna miss from thirty five. And we had seen, you know, unfortunately, 528 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: we had seen d Hop missed multiple extra points this preseason. 529 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: That's a thirty yarder. 530 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it was you know when 531 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: you signed the d Hop, when you sign that three and. 532 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: Three yard right, it's at the fifteen softeen eight thirty three. 533 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, thinking about Charlie Hewitt and d 534 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: hop and supplanted and now you go with this with 535 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: with this new battery there with so yeah, we'll see 536 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: this this there could There's gonna be a lot going 537 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: on in NFL circles. 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Here's coach Tefanski his first comments on the 556 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: initial fifty three. 557 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 11: Kevin, the decision on Dustin, What did that ultimately come 558 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 11: down to? I mean, or was that something that you 559 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 11: guys sort of felt like? 560 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 8: When did you sort of make that decision? 561 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? First of all, these are tough decisions. 562 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 12: They're not easy, uh, And we work through these with 563 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 12: a lot of information and case Andre has done a 564 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 12: really nice job. He really won that job by being 565 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 12: very consistent. Really, Dustin somebody that I really admire as 566 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 12: a person, admires a player. Doesn't change any of that 567 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 12: how I feel about him. But really felt good about 568 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 12: the work that Andre's put into this camp and really 569 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 12: going on all the way back to the spring. 570 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: I know it was a whole body of work for him. 571 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 6: But how important is that last field home? 572 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think all of it matters, Tony. 573 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 12: Obviously, it's hard to replicate a game winner, as you know, 574 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 12: so it all matters. I think the big big thing 575 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 12: about these decisions is these are ongoing evaluations that we 576 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 12: try to take in as much information as possible. And 577 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 12: that's going back to work that we did in the spring, 578 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 12: work that we certainly did in the summer. But to 579 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 12: your point, those are moments in football games and where 580 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 12: you want to. 581 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 4: Come through for your team and Andre did. What about Andre? 582 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: Just the fact that he's never hid in. 583 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: An NFL game? 584 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 13: Like, like, how do you go about evaluating that body 585 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 13: of work? 586 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 12: And you don't abut until you've done something, you haven't 587 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 12: done it type of thing. So have a ton of 588 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 12: confidence in him. He's a young man that's been through 589 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 12: a lot, uh, and we trust him. 590 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 14: Now in retrospect, how important was it for you to 591 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 14: set that up? Well, the Huntly thing, and and and 592 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 14: then to set. 593 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: Up that pres I wish I was that talented Tony. Uh. 594 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I guess it goes back to this is a 595 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 12: evaluation that is ongoing and it encompasses a lot of things. 596 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 7: Kevin went into the trade for Kenny Pinkett and what 597 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 7: does that make me say about the faith that you 598 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 7: have in preaching Buckie quarterbacks? 599 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: To back up to this year? 600 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 12: You know, honestly, those type of things you can't predict them. 601 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 12: And got a strong offer for Kenny. Kenny's a guy 602 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 12: I think very highly of and and so do so 603 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 12: do they. So I wish him well. He's a great person, 604 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 12: he's a really good football player. But those are the 605 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 12: type of decisions that you have to make on who 606 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 12: will back up John. 607 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 4: Dylan will be the backup? Yea a rut. 608 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 13: Maybe Brett might be the wrong word, but that Kenny 609 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 13: didn't really get a chance we. 610 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: Go to that injury. 611 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, yes, definitely disappointed for Kenny in that he was 612 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 12: out for all that time. Like I told you guys, 613 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 12: he performed well prior to that, remained engaged all throughout that. 614 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: So disappointed for him, But he's a you know, somebody 615 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: that I think very highly. 616 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 14: Could you reassure your fans that there will be will. 617 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 6: Be more of them two running backs on this team. 618 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: There will be more than two running backs on this team, Kenn. 619 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 12: With a decision to treat Kenny, how much of it 620 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 12: is it an impacted by Dylan giving you the trust 621 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 12: that he can be once and never way when he 622 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 12: gets a ring. I think you factor in everything, Scott, truly, 623 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 12: you look at it from a bunch of different angles. 624 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 12: So certainly we made the decision and feel comfortable with 625 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 12: Dylan serving that role. 626 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: So saw Michael past as physical. 627 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: What does that mean, you know? 628 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 13: And when can he start in se Mark field. 629 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 12: He's I don't know the exact day that he's gonna 630 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 12: be back out here. I mean, he's doing great. I 631 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 12: got to watch him work out yesterday. He looks really good. 632 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 12: He's he's right where he needs to be. Uh, and 633 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 12: he's he's worked extremely hard in this rehab. So I'm 634 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 12: excited about where he is, and we'll see where he 635 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 12: is as the next couple of days unfold. 636 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 9: I know it's a body of work for Dylan going 637 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 9: all the way back to when you first got him here. 638 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 9: But did that two minute drive at the end of 639 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 9: that game sort of convince you that you guys could. 640 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: Part ways with Kenny? 641 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: You know? 642 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 12: It kind of goes back to the previous discussion. Uh, 643 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 12: It's it's such an all encompassing evaluation. So everything the 644 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 12: guys did in the games was important. We also saw 645 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 12: a lot of them out here in practice and how 646 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 12: they are and you know, at their craft, and and 647 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 12: he's certainly somebody that that we think is getting better 648 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 12: and better. 649 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: I know, you're in the business of winning games. 650 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 13: Not so much in the feel good stories, but you 651 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 13: have one and engage more to the martin why he 652 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 13: was able to, you know, make this team. Just what 653 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 13: have you seen from him and just what does it 654 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 13: say about him? And also the organization that you know, 655 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 13: this guy is able to make an NFL fifty bring. 656 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 12: I think there's examples every year, and Gauge is certainly 657 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 12: a great example of guys that maybe come in and 658 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 12: aren't as highly touted, and you're undrafted sometimes, or you're 659 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 12: at a tryout sometimes, and there's guys that have been 660 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 12: through different things in their collegiate career. And the beauty 661 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 12: of this sport is that you get guys here and 662 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 12: they make plays, and you can watch a guy develop 663 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 12: and he's somebody really from the jump that has made 664 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 12: plays in every practice, in every game, So we're excited 665 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 12: for him. He's a quiet kid, works very very very hard, 666 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 12: diligent about getting better. 667 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 4: So those are the type of kids that you're rooting for. 668 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 13: You and as a coach and your staff, do not 669 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 13: overlook a guy like. 670 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: That when you have ninety guys who care. 671 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 12: I don't know about skill. I think for me, Jeff, 672 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 12: there's so much practice time. There's so many meetings, there's 673 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 12: so many times to evaluate our players, and sometimes when 674 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 12: you see a guy that shows up and continue continues 675 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 12: to make plays, it makes it. It cemments what may 676 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 12: be your evaluation of the player. 677 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 9: Kevin, who did the fact that Deshaun Watson is coming 678 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 9: along really well in his rehab, how did that factor 679 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 9: into maybe you guys feeling comfortable with letting Kenny go. 680 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, I wouldn't comment, uh to say or that mary 681 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 12: kay Deshawn's doing awesome. I mean, he's doing great. I'm 682 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 12: excited for him. I get to watch him work out 683 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 12: as well. I get to be in the meeting room 684 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 12: with him every single day, so he's doing great. 685 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 6: How much i'd say, say. 686 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 14: Several influence you have with the practice squad, Like can 687 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 14: you tell Andrew I need two running back because I 688 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 14: need to. 689 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 4: Work. I mean, we see it very similarly, Tony. 690 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 12: We have those conversations of what do we feel like 691 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 12: we need to have the best practice squad where you 692 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 12: can get your work done on the field, but also 693 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 12: you have developmental guys. So we're in lockstep on that. 694 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 11: Kevin, how big is this kind of gap week between 695 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 11: the end of the preseason and the start of the 696 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 11: regular season just to kind of allow guys like give 697 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 11: you Ethan or Blake or Mike kind of have an 698 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 11: opportunity to take heal without kind of that the pressure 699 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 11: of having the immediacy of a game coming. 700 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 12: Obviously, having this week and then going into the weekend 701 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 12: with the time off is helpful with injuries and guys 702 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 12: getting fresh. 703 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: Over the weekend. 704 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 12: But we view this week as an opportunity for us 705 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 12: to get sharp as a football team. And that's in 706 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 12: our scheme, that's in our techniques, that's in our fundamentals. 707 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 12: So the guys are working very hard yesterday, today, We'll 708 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 12: have a couple more days out here this week. So 709 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 12: this is a big week for your football team when 710 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 12: you're getting ready for for a seventeen plus season. 711 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: We talked about Aiden an Engage earlier. 712 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 4: What stood out about right Easton, don and Donovan, a 713 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 4: couple of other undrafted guys that they were able to 714 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 4: stick out enough to make it. It's been a really Scott. 715 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: It's been a really impressive rookie. 716 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 12: Class in terms of their preparedness, their professionalism. Each one 717 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 12: of those guys kind of represents that they've from from 718 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 12: the jump, been about their business, have been trustworthy. We've 719 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 12: put them in some tough spots and they've responded. So 720 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 12: it's an impressive group in that regard. 721 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 14: Given Schmidt's inexperience, you think would be wise very past 722 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 14: the squad kicker. 723 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 4: Working through all those things. 724 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 9: What about Giant was he someone that was that a 725 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 9: tough decision for you, guys, considering he was. 726 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: A pull Bowl receiver. 727 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 12: There are all tough decisions. I really like Toy. I 728 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 12: was impressed with the work that he put in. These 729 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 12: are tough decisions that these are not easy decisions. I 730 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 12: did see Shlby out there to even he's out here. 731 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, the expectation that Bill and Samson we were 732 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 4: start running. We'll see. 733 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 734 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: I like the group we've got. 735 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 7: Is there any update on Quinchan Jokin? 736 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: No update? Good? Okay, thank you guys, appreciate it. Thank you. 737 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: All Right, there you go. Coach from the Podium presented 738 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: by Vivid Seats Push Official Fan Experience Packages. Today for 739 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: the ultimate game Day, we'll go around the league. 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We kick off the twenty 750 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 2: twenty five season with that home opener. Security seats now 751 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: at Cleveland Browns dot com slash Bengals on that side 752 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: of things go around the league. From Adam Schefter, the 753 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: NFL is aiming for at least a potential six game 754 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: suspension of Chiefs wide Receivershi Rice for violating the league's 755 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 2: personal conduct policy. The suspension now kicks in Week one. 756 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: Did this ever go final or is this still being negotiated? 757 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 10: It sounds like he's settling for this, because Schefter put 758 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 10: this all out and then said it appears he's going 759 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 10: to He and his camp are going to agree to this, 760 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 10: So it's not It doesn't look there's nothing. I think 761 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 10: that says it's final. 762 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, so these are they're negotiating this out. NFL 763 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 2: want to be bigger. It's coming back a little bit less. 764 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 2: But from Kansas City's perspective, at least you know and 765 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: you can plan for it. And that's the thing for 766 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: them that's nice is at least they know what that is. 767 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: It is amazing. Like aside from the Travis Kelcey stuff yesterday, 768 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: like the Chiefs have been you've heard nothing. I mean, 769 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: all anybody's talking about is the Bills and the Ravens 770 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: and you know, Chase it trying to if not now 771 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: win those teams. And here's Kansas City, who the only 772 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: time they lose in the playoffs is to Joe Burrow 773 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: once or Tom Brady last year to Jalen Hurts. Other 774 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: than that, they're in the super Bowl all the time 775 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: and win it most times. And it's just quiet. And 776 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: they've quietly added weapons, Like the amount of weapons they have. 777 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: They took a lot of bites at the Apple, at 778 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: weapons outside, at receiver, they're running back room all of it. 779 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: They've got a lot of weaponry on that team. And 780 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: I talked to somebody from Kansas City a couple of 781 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: weeks ago, and they're like, oh, they've taken note of 782 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: all of that, and they're pretty confident that you're going 783 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: to get an offense that more resembles what they were 784 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago than last year. 785 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: Do they think Xavier Worthy is ready to be? 786 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: Like I drafted him so? After talking to the guy 787 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 2: like I had him in my list. 788 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: Of like, he feels like the one that's gonna specially 789 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: Rice Rashi Rice out for those six games now, yeah, yeah, 790 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: he feels like he could. 791 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: He could also think I think comebacks. 792 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 10: He got suspended yesterday. The commissioner did hand down a 793 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 10: couple things yesterday. I know one of them was the 794 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 10: Texans guys not allowed to practice or any be they 795 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 10: go to games. There was something I thought there was 796 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 10: another incident with a Chiefs player that was maybe suspended 797 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 10: for a game or two. 798 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, give it. I mean it could be. 799 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: There was so much going on, you know, there was 800 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: so much going on yesterday I did, I did not 801 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: see it. But nothing with surprise, Uh, the Adam Thelen 802 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: deal happens, Vikings and Panthers get it done. Feeling back 803 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 2: to Minnesota, conditional seventh round pick and a twenty twenty 804 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 2: seven fIF The Panthers get a twenty twenty six to 805 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: fifth and the twenty twenty seven fourth. You guys were there? 806 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 2: Is this a Jimmy Horn situation? Is that why they 807 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: did this? Carolina? 808 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: No, they like Cocker, Okay, Jalen Coker, So it's gonna 809 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 3: be McMillan, Ligette and Coker who had a touchdown against US. 810 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 3: He's the one who caught the touchdown from Bryce Young 811 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 3: against US. I think they realize they are not ready 812 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 3: this year, so getting an asset for thelen and giving 813 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: a younger guy an opportunity to play is probably not 814 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 3: a terrible thing, right. 815 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: So essentially they move up two rounds from seven to 816 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: five and then from four from five to four in 817 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: order to give up thelan is what it amounts to. 818 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: So just wrote man, Maybe that's it. Maybe they they 819 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: just not quite as close as so Cocher. 820 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 3: Last year four cat he had thirty two catches four 821 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: and seventy yards, two touchdowns average fourteen nine a catch 822 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: six three two thirteen from Holy Cross. He must have 823 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: been undrafted. 824 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 2: She's not a lot of NFL guys from there. 825 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, he must have been an undrafted player, but 826 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 3: he looked good while we were there, and I think 827 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 3: he's the one that's going to get more opportunity. 828 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: And this allows Minnesota to kind of hold it over 829 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 2: until Addison comes back. He's at the first three games. 830 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 3: Jalen Naylor, Yeah, and Addis and Thelen with JJ and 831 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: Hockinson and Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason, they get some. 832 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: They're totally set up. If JJ is good, they've got some. 833 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: Just a big bet on a kid who we haven't seen. Yeah, 834 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: you know, obviously they like him a lot. They were 835 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: ready to make him the starter last year before the 836 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: injury happened. So a little bit of a background on that. 837 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: Anthony Walker, our old buddy, working out for his other 838 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: former team, the Indianapolis Colts. This next one is one 839 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: of those ones where I remember the lead up to 840 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: this draft and I remember saying, just you and I 841 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: talking about. 842 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 3: This, just not Baltimore, just not Baltimore. The same thing 843 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: was like with Patrick quits heard us. 844 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 2: It's crazy. Lamar Lamar Lamar was the original. Yes, We're 845 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: like and I yeah, the Lamar want you and I 846 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: weren't doing We didn't even know each other. 847 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 6: At that time. 848 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: But the whole thing was like I was a share 849 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure what Lamar would be, but I knew 850 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: that I didn't want to find out in. 851 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 3: The division, go elsewhere. 852 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 853 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 2: Same. The one we're referring to is Kyle Hamilton. He 854 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: got four years, one hundred million, largest in NFL history, 855 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: fifty or eighty two million guaranteed. And Kyle Hamilton. 856 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: Now, again, I love the fact that we won that game, 857 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 3: and I do believe that Jim Donovan from up above 858 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: played a role in us winning that game. But had 859 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton caught a pass that was thrown right to 860 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: him that he catches yep, one hundred times out of 861 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 3: one hundred mm hmm, we would have had the number 862 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 3: one pick in the draft this year. 863 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, you're right. I know I haven't thought 864 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: of it, that I hadn't thought of it that way. Oh, yes, 865 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: because that's one of the most improv right, one of 866 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 2: the more improbable wins of all time. 867 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 3: Yes, And he went on to Steelers and maybe we 868 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 3: don't beat the Steelers in the snow Club game, we 869 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 3: still have a number one pick. But that was one 870 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: that he kept. If that ball is thrown to him 871 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 3: one million times. Yeah, I think he catches it nine 872 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 3: ninety ninety nine and that was the one. 873 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 6: That was the one. 874 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe catches it ninety eight. Maybe there are two drops, 875 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: but that was one of them. 876 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember saying something the effective you cannot tell 877 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 2: me that wasn't Jim Donovan. There was just no way 878 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't. And the the other thing that was crazy 879 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 2: about that is it's it was probably the easiest interception 880 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 2: he's had since Pop Warner, Like he could have fair 881 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 2: caught it. 882 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he caught it like three different times. 883 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, like how you know how that happens? 884 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: But so they get him done four years, one hundred 885 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: million on that. 886 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 13: Uh. 887 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 2: The Patriots releasing wide receiver Kendrick Bourne after his request 888 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: for his release, Mike Rabel cleaned house. There aren't many 889 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: Belichick draftees left, so they're they're doing a complete reset 890 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: in New England. They're huge on Drake May We'll see, 891 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: but but Mike is building that in his own image 892 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 2: in New England. 893 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 10: I didn't get a chance to add this to our 894 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 10: list of things around the league today, but the NFL 895 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 10: has quietly relaxed tom Brady's restrictions from a TV analyst. 896 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 10: Analyst standpoint, Yep, they're gonna let him go into the 897 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 10: He's now allowed to be in the production meetings remotely. 898 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: And as he should be. That's been a big deal. 899 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he's allowed to interview players off site. 900 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 2: I think the bigger problem is quite honestly, if you 901 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: want to know, the big problem is he shouldn't be 902 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: in the booth. 903 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 3: Correct. 904 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean let's start there, like, forget the qualifiers, 905 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 2: Like you shouldn't have somebody who is and he's not 906 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: like I mean, this isn't like Woodson here, who's a 907 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: part of ownership. But we haven't seen Charles yep. I 908 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: mean since that's happened, has he been have we seen him? 909 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 6: I don't know. 910 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 2: I don't think we have. I know I haven't. Maybe 911 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 2: it happened on a day I was off or something. 912 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: I don't remember ever seeing him in the building. Tom 913 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: Brady is active in the Las Vegas Raiders and the 914 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: way they're being put together, the way they're being constructed. 915 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: He's it's known that he's active in free agent pitches 916 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: and draft. 917 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 6: And all of this. 918 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 2: He just should not be on an NFL broadcast, No 919 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: pick one. 920 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: No, you're an owner either this or that. 921 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 922 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm amazed that he's still doing it. 923 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. 924 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 3: Not for me, I'm allowed. The league could be like, 925 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 3: oh that perspective, owning the Raiders is worth a lot 926 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 3: of money. It is, so yeah, one of that or 927 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: the other. Like I think he could be he could 928 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 3: do something like the Manning cast. Now that you wouldn't 929 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 3: compete with them, But I'm saying like that, I would 930 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 3: have no problem. But like being a network broadcaster. 931 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 2: He broadcasting the Super Bowl, I know, and the other. 932 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 3: Thing is and maybe he like it takes time. He's 933 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 3: not that great at it. No, no, no, the Greg 934 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 3: Olsen should be the number one guy at Fox. 935 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not what that job's about. That job 936 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: is shaking hands and kissing babies with advertisers. That's that job. 937 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: That job in the old days, that was the job 938 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 2: at Fox. That that I mean, what are the biggest 939 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: shows that that's Jack Bauer. Yeah, but I mean before that, 940 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 2: even like in the old days with the old network TV, 941 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: when you do the upfronts and you're at NBC, you 942 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,919 Speaker 2: bring Tom Brokaw, you bring Jerry Seinfeld, Ted Danson, that's 943 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: what Okay, advertisers, this is NBC. You bring the guys 944 00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 2: from me. 945 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 4: Are this is NBC. 946 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: I love that Jerry Seinfeld is Jerry Seinfeld because like 947 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 3: when you say that, you're like, oh, Jerry Seinfeld, the 948 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 3: guy from Seinfeld, but it is he is Jerry s Yeah. 949 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, same guy, Yeah, same guy, same guy. 950 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not Sam. 951 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: All of that is, all of that's over. So, like 952 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: these guys are the faces of networks. That's when they 953 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: paid Brady that money, they paid Romo that money. It 954 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: wasn't because it wasn't for broadcasting football games. It was 955 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: you're the face of a network. 956 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 957 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: So like there isn't nightly news anymore, there aren't shows 958 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 2: the way that there used to be, shows that everybody watched. 959 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 2: All those things are different now. 960 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 3: They could be rossy out there again, is going on 961 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 3: getting his water. Looks like he's got a fresh helmet 962 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 3: up there. 963 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 6: He does. 964 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: He's got a fresh army of people with boxes walking. 965 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: Offses everywhere, Lots of boxes. What's going on? 966 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 10: So the Bengals have fourteen practice squad, guys, how's that possible? 967 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 6: Already? 968 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 3: Fourteen? 969 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 6: Yeah? 970 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: Ben baby, just put him out. My guess is one 971 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 3: of them Brett Rippon. One of them is an international 972 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 3: Pathways player. Oh they can have sixteen. You're saying, how 973 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 3: did they already have? What I'm saying is like, how 974 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 3: would did they act so quickly? 975 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 976 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 10: Uh yeah, there's a linebacker on here. There's no way 977 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 10: and you know what that I'm going to try to 978 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 10: actually pronounce that, and I mean, no way, no chance, 979 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 10: there's no I don't even I don't even know. 980 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean. 981 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there you go. Hey, I don't know. I 982 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: won't we won't. We won't hold you to it. All right, 983 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: there you go. That's everything around the league. So in 984 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 2: terms of things you're waiting on league wide, you're waiting 985 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 2: for Michael Parsons. Oh you did get the details on McLaurin. 986 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: I think I believe you. 987 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: Had that forty four million or forty five guaranteed. Yeah, 988 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 3: it's not even actually truly thirty a year in new money. No, 989 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 3: it's it's not close to DK Metcalf's right where he 990 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 3: should have been. And it basically is a wink wink. 991 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 3: You get to say you have this big contract where 992 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 3: he doesn't. 993 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 2: But it's fine. 994 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 3: It's appropriate for him. He's happy about it. I'm sure, yeah, 995 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 3: good everybody he wins. But it's not exactly what setting 996 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 3: anything or nothing like that. 997 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: No, not in that vicinity. 998 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 3: It's exactly what it is is should be because that's 999 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 3: he's not a top ten receiver. He's also not receiver 1000 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 3: twenty one to thirty two. No, he's right there and 1001 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 3: that's how he got paid. 1002 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right where he was compensated and where he 1003 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 2: will continue to be compensated. Second half of the program 1004 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 2: up Nextuals to Cleveland Browns Daily represented by Ballely Bete, 1005 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: official sports winning partner of your Cleveland Browns. 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Visit Cleveland Browns dot com 1016 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 2: slash milkbone for more. If you're just joining us, two 1017 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 2: white waiver claims for your Cleveland Browns. Raheem Sanders rookie 1018 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 2: running back out of South Carolina by way of Arkansas. 1019 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: He comes into the mix size there, six foot plus 1020 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 2: two twenty plus, bit of a banger. 1021 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 3: Not shifting, but he can go north south and he's 1022 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 3: got speed. He can run away from you, run through you, 1023 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 3: and that's obviously what he is going to attempt to do. 1024 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: He was a nearly a fifteen hundred yard rusher his 1025 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 2: sophomore season at Arkansas, averaged six and a half a carry. 1026 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 2: By the looks of this, he must have got hurt 1027 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 2: his junior year at Arkansas and then transwer to South 1028 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 2: Carolina last year. Eight hundred and eighty one yards nearly 1029 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: five yards of carry, eleven touchdowns. He was on the 1030 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 2: Chargers rather in the preseason and it was a bit 1031 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: of a fan favorite there. So the running back room 1032 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 2: there is your big back. The other thing that we 1033 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 2: added was Jeric Bernard Converse, the corner out of LSU. 1034 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 2: He played two seasons with the Jets, played in fifteen 1035 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 2: games over two years with the Jets and a total 1036 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: of seven tackles, So a bigger corner out of LSU. 1037 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 2: So he fits the profile of kind of the type 1038 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 2: of things that we're looking for. If you just think 1039 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 2: of it, these are not apples to apples tradeouts. But 1040 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 2: if you think about Jeric Bernard Converse, you know, kind 1041 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 2: of his size, it matches a little bit with MJ. 1042 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 2: And then obviously with Raheem Sanders, matches with Quinn Show. 1043 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 2: Obviously Quinchin's the second round pick is MJ. So you're 1044 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 2: never gonna be able to place those guys apples for apples. 1045 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 2: But body wise, type wise, these would fit those bills and. 1046 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 3: They're looking for athletes and that's kind of just the 1047 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 3: pedigree SEC guys you talked about. And listen, we're not 1048 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 3: going to get mj. Emerson back this year. Unfortunately, we 1049 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 3: hopefully will get Queen John Jenkins this year. Yeah, so 1050 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 3: these guys are there, You're right now in your corner 1051 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 3: back room. You've got Denzel Ward is as sure a 1052 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 3: thing as can be. Greg Newsom has been solid for you, 1053 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 3: but there have been ups and downs and you're gonna 1054 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 3: need him to be back like he was in twenty 1055 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: twenty three two picks, fourteen passes, defense his best season. 1056 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 3: You're gonna need that guy. And then beyond that, like 1057 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 3: it's competition. It's competition because you don't have anybody who's 1058 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 3: got the pelts on the wall that say, Okay, yeah, 1059 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 3: this is my job or I there's no way just 1060 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 3: walking into a job. So and it may well be 1061 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 3: for the Browns that if cam Mitchell, who I think, 1062 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 3: I still think we'll get first crack at. But if 1063 00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 3: cam Mitchell or if Miles Harden, if they can't secure that, 1064 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 3: I do think it opens the outside for Dom Jones 1065 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: if he is not one for one replaced here, but 1066 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 3: for you know, guys like that, to maybe be the 1067 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 3: third corner, be outside and kicks Greg back inside. We've 1068 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 3: always been looking at it is no, it's just gonna 1069 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 3: be you know, the outside guys being Greg and Denzel, 1070 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 3: and then we need a nickel. Now Greg's been a 1071 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 3: very good nickel for so perhaps it is almost as 1072 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 3: simple as do we go the route of finding another 1073 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 3: outside corner who comes in in those nickel situations and 1074 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 3: kicking Greg back in. 1075 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, something to watch for for sure. One of the 1076 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 2: stories of cut down day and the initial fifty three 1077 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 2: was new kicker Andre Schmidt. What a story, What a 1078 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 2: kind of came out of nowhere this preseason. That last 1079 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 2: kick in the game here against the Rams sealed his 1080 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 2: fate in terms of being an NFL player. He was 1081 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: available from the podium yesterday. Let's listen to that now 1082 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: presented by Vivid Seats for your official fan Experience package 1083 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: today for the ultimate game Day New Browns kicker Andre Schmidt. 1084 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 13: Andra, haven't talked about your whole body of work being 1085 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 13: the reason we won the job. I mean, just talk 1086 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 13: about that going back to te even last year when you. 1087 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 4: Were here for that week of the practice squad. 1088 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've been working on my craft for 1089 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 5: a while now, so no, I haven't changed I haven't 1090 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 5: changed anything up and steadily working at it, and you 1091 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 5: know it's some paying off. 1092 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 13: What was it like that moment you found out that 1093 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 13: you've made the fifty three? 1094 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was exciting, of course, but you know, I'm 1095 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 5: kind of already focused on week one and you know, 1096 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 5: preparing and staying staying on my course and my process, 1097 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 5: like I talked about, I. 1098 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 6: Believe when you were waiting for that car how did 1099 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 6: you describe that? 1100 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, I think it's a little bit it's 1101 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 5: a little nerve wracking, but it's also exciting at the 1102 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 5: same time. You know, you don't know what the future has, 1103 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 5: and you know, you put you put all your work 1104 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 5: in and then whatever happens, it happened. 1105 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 8: So were you how big was that that last drive 1106 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 8: on Saturday, just to to at least get to go 1107 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 8: through it and get in a real game or you know, 1108 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 8: a game setting instead of just you know, kind of 1109 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 8: fired drill out here in practice. 1110 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's exciting. I mean, obviously I've had game winners 1111 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 5: before my past, not in the NFL level, but no, 1112 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 5: they're always exciting. You know, you feel the same kind 1113 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 5: of like the drawing, but then you're also super locked 1114 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 5: in and like game winners are are a special kind 1115 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 5: of beast. I mean, you're you're so locked in you 1116 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 5: kind of space out and you just go out there 1117 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 5: and you just do your thing and ecided and get 1118 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 5: it done. I mean, couldn't have done it without Rex 1119 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 5: and Corey and the offense getting me in field goal range, 1120 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 5: and it made my job a lot easier. 1121 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 4: Did you know that you were going to have that 1122 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 4: chance on that last drive. 1123 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was aware that I was going to be 1124 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 5: coming into the second half to do the kicking duty, 1125 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 5: so I was preparing, got my kicks in a halftime, 1126 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 5: got my kicks in pre game, and you know I 1127 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 5: was I was ready to go. 1128 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 4: I've helped you along, and how could I build that 1129 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:56,720 Speaker 4: chemistry as. 1130 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 13: You didn't really help important that the game. 1131 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's super important. And I mean they're like the 1132 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 5: best guys ever. So you have such a tight knit 1133 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 5: group and I'm just super excited to still be here 1134 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 5: with with these guys. 1135 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 2: To see anybody as believe Dustin obviously any back terminators, 1136 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 2: they can take it the job. 1137 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 8: So it's I mean, for you looking with me, what did. 1138 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 4: He mean to you? 1139 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 8: And like, what do you mean him part on you 1140 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 8: each other? 1141 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he meant a lot to me, and 1142 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 5: he's like one of the best guys like I've ever met. 1143 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 5: And we briefly caught each other in the locker room 1144 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 5: and we said some nice words to each other. And 1145 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 5: I'm always gonna be rooting for him and I know 1146 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 5: he'll be doing the same for me. So you know, 1147 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 5: I have nothing but love for him. And in respect, 1148 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 5: what was the first person you called when you got 1149 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 5: the news. I called my girlfriend and then my dad 1150 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 5: and my sister. 1151 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 7: Did you you picked that last kid just seeing the 1152 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 7: dustin used to one year earlier in the game on 1153 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 7: Electric BOYD. Did you have any actual prushures like any 1154 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,720 Speaker 7: that last kick could be the difference? 1155 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 2: No, I don't really think about it. 1156 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 5: You know, I just treat treat every rep as its own, 1157 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 5: and going out there, you know, I have one opportunity 1158 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 5: of the whole game, so you know, I just want 1159 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 5: to capitalize it and make make most of those opportunities. 1160 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 14: Would you that last stride on the Rams game? 1161 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 2: Were you told to get ready because for kicking it's. 1162 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 8: Gonna be you. 1163 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1164 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 5: I was aware before the game that I would have 1165 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 5: the second half, so I was yah. I was preparing 1166 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 5: at halftime and stuff, and I knew, you know, I 1167 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 5: was in the net every every drive we had on 1168 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 5: offense that second half. 1169 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,919 Speaker 14: That kick one year job. 1170 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, it's hard to say. I mean, I 1171 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 5: just try to put my best so forward, and you know, 1172 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 5: have my process and and just do my job, treat 1173 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 5: every kick as its own. 1174 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 2: Would you like to change jersey jersey numbers? 1175 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 9: Not? 1176 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 4: I haven't even much thought. Honestly, we'll see. Maybe it 1177 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 4: doesn't reach out to you at all that. 1178 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 9: Uh. 1179 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 5: I saw him briefly in the locker room and we 1180 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 5: changed some words with each other, and there's nothing but 1181 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 5: positive things on both ends. And like I said, I 1182 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 5: just wish him the best and everything. 1183 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 13: Sorry for yess, but just your emotions of going from 1184 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 13: kicking a game winner line Saturday to being in that 1185 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 13: situation to finding out today that you're gonna be. 1186 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 4: The Week one kid. 1187 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of emotion 1188 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 5: that goes into there's so much uncertainty in the NFL. 1189 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 5: You know, I'm I'm just super grateful to still be 1190 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 5: here and I gonna take advantage of every opportunity to 1191 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 5: get and you know, pull my best foot forward. 1192 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 8: Something kickers talking. 1193 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: About the process, what does your process look like to make. 1194 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 5: Sure that you you're the same guy, And yeah, I 1195 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 5: mean just keeping level headed, not letting the the big 1196 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 5: moments get too big, and not letting the bad moments 1197 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 5: get get too bad, you know, trying to say even 1198 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 5: And that's that's what I really worked on, I mean, 1199 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 5: growing up and just going through the kicking journey, so 1200 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 5: to speak and yeah, just being older and more mature 1201 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 5: and it just helps a lot. 1202 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: You know, honest said, how did you I guess work lowery? 1203 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 8: You know, and you guess well kind of and everything 1204 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 8: what you like, what he likes. 1205 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 5: And how that helps you work through those Yeah, I 1206 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 5: feel like every kicker likes their own kind of lean 1207 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 5: and stuff and how the hand looks when it's snap's 1208 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 5: coming and everything. You know, we talked about it, and 1209 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 5: he's a great holder and Rex is a great snapper, 1210 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 5: so makes his job easy. And then and that makes 1211 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 5: my job easy to with the change in. 1212 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 7: The kickoff Cole years more so this year, just how 1213 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 7: has that changed because it used to be just good 1214 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 7: to bob end zone started to thirty now with landing 1215 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 7: phones and you know, the bounce kicks and everything. 1216 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's changed a lot. 1217 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 5: Obviously. I think it's gonna be interesting to see what 1218 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 5: teams do, you know, I think it it's obviously a 1219 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 5: much more finesse kind of kick now, So we'll see what. 1220 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. 1221 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 7: How's Bubba's instruction. It's just been throughout camp boy, just going. 1222 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 4: Through all those kickoffs. 1223 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 5: You mean, the field goes I don't know if I'm 1224 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 5: an't necessarily smell spell. 1225 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 7: Just you know, how did just going through all scenarios 1226 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 7: and everything, how. 1227 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 4: It seemed it? 1228 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean as kickers ourselves, I don't think Bubban 1229 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 5: needs to tell us anything specific. We all work on 1230 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 5: different types of kicks and mess around with different leans 1231 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 5: and stuff and junk balls and balls in the air. 1232 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 5: So I think I think it's all kind of unspoken 1233 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 5: that we just kind of all work on have as 1234 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 5: many tools. 1235 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 13: In the toolbox as evidence by I mean a kicker's job. 1236 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of security goes with that sometimes. 1237 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 3: How do you how do you deal with that? 1238 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 5: I'll just take it one day at a time and 1239 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 5: just try to do my best and not think too 1240 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 5: much into the future or worry too much about things 1241 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 5: that are out of my control. 1242 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 13: You know, Cleveland's not the easiest place to kick. 1243 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 2: It's great place to kick. 1244 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 13: Right now, but just you know, how do you prepare 1245 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 13: for that element? 1246 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 6: You know? 1247 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 7: Something is completely. 1248 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 9: Right? 1249 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 5: I mean I grew up in Chicago, so going through 1250 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 5: high school and stuff I've kicked in like in the 1251 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 5: colder weather and stuff, and just being a free agent too, 1252 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 5: I'm ready year round you never know if you're gonna 1253 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 5: be doing the UFL which I ended up doing, or 1254 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 5: like have a sign of futures deal. So I've been 1255 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 5: kicking in the cold weather and my rookie years in Chicago, 1256 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 5: so the wind isn't super friendly there either. So you know, 1257 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 5: I feel like I've had a kind of a good 1258 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 5: grasp and I've kind of under stand how to how 1259 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 5: to play my ball in different kind of wins. 1260 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 6: Did you have to kick at all and Soldier Field? 1261 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 4: I did? 1262 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, that's one of the supposed that here. Yeah, 1263 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 5: that's what I've heard. Yeah, So I'm excited. It's a 1264 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 5: good challenge. But I think that kind of challenge comes 1265 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 5: even more focus and preparation. 1266 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 13: That comes in to in what tex did you kicking 1267 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 13: Soldier Field? 1268 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 5: Oh, it was just a family fan. 1269 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 4: It was practice. 1270 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1271 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 2: What's your dad and your girlfriend's name? Remember else you said? 1272 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 5: Janna, my girlfriend, my dad, Eric. 1273 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Jenn Hey, congratulations, thank you, I appreciate this. Thanks thanks 1274 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 2: all right, coming up next, it is official. We will 1275 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 2: tell you you know about the two guys coming in. 1276 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 2: We'll tell you about the two guys going out. Uh, 1277 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 2: some other things happening around the league as Well that's 1278 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: coming up next to us to cleveld Browns Daily. 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Tight End Brendon Bates has been 1297 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 3: waived as well as cornerback dom Joones. So the cornerback 1298 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 3: was one for one switch. We were shocked, we told 1299 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 3: you along. The four tight ends was very surprising to us. 1300 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 3: That's the three running backs. Now you're down to three 1301 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 3: tight ends. I would expect both of these guys to 1302 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 3: be back on the Browns practice squad. Sometimes when you 1303 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 3: do something like this, it is so because you know 1304 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 3: it is less likely that somebody gets claimed after the 1305 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: second wave of releases, and so you should be able 1306 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 3: to get those guys back. In addition, the Browns already 1307 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 3: have nine of their sixteen on the practice squad tight 1308 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 3: end Salcnela, wide receiver, Caden Davis, safety Christopher Edmunds, defensive 1309 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 3: tackle Ralph Holly, defensive tackle Sam Kamara, who's been with 1310 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 3: us basically since twenty twenty two. Yeah, cornerback Lamaron James, 1311 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 3: and then two running backs Monti Marshall Trevion Williams. Then 1312 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 3: one of the surprises I thought might get claimed somewhere 1313 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 3: but did not because he sure's heck had a darn 1314 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 3: good preseason with US. 1315 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Julian Aquara is back here with the Cleveland Browns. 1316 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 3: So it's one of those things, like I think everybody 1317 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 3: thinks who's watching their team that you know, the guys 1318 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,919 Speaker 3: that really are awesome for your team, all they're gonna 1319 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 3: get all snatched up. On average, teams didn't even make 1320 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 3: one waiver claim per team on average, and seven of 1321 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 3: the twenty eight so twenty five percent of all waiver 1322 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,439 Speaker 3: claims were made by the Titans and the Jets. Yeah, 1323 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 3: so that means for the other thirty teams there were 1324 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 3: twenty one waiver claims made. There just aren't teams invest 1325 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 3: so much trying to get a guy in and learn 1326 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 3: your new system. It's just it doesn't happen often. And 1327 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 3: for the Browns, if you think about it, the guys 1328 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 3: that have been claimed at the cornerback position the last 1329 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 3: couple of years, we did Khalif Felassi and then last 1330 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 3: year not at the claim, but we signed Chickanoosium pretty 1331 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 3: early in the season off of the practice squad of Washington. 1332 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 3: Then you know, neither made it another year. 1333 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit it. I think I just think like 1334 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 2: with the you go from an offseason program, you go 1335 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 2: into a camp, You've invested so much in these guys 1336 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 2: that it's just hard to try to get somebody else 1337 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 2: up to speed. That's why it's so easy, Like what 1338 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 2: we did when we the quarterback injuries and you got 1339 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 2: Snoop out there, and it's like, well, look, bring him back. 1340 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 2: He knows the system, he can run it, let's go. 1341 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 2: This is easy. That that makes it very easy him 1342 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 2: returning to Baltimore today, that's very easy. Yeah, for him 1343 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 2: to return there. He knows everything that's going on there 1344 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 2: and how to handle it. And so when you're talking 1345 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 2: about bottom of the roster guys, what you really need 1346 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 2: is folks that can can hit the ground running. And 1347 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 2: the reality is it's not really worth it for these 1348 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 2: teams to go add somebody and teach them all the 1349 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 2: stuff that these other guys have been taught. Even if 1350 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 2: there is a slight talent upgrade, it's not worth it. 1351 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 2: It's bottom roster, right, and this. 1352 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,479 Speaker 3: Is where you're going to be churned in all season long. 1353 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, it's funny, like I always think about that 1354 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 2: because you know we've been is this eight or nine 1355 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 2: seasons for US? 1356 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 6: I can't remember. 1357 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 2: We're well into it, but the I think it's eight. 1358 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Isn't it? Season eight for the Three of. 1359 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 3: US eighteen nineteen twenty. 1360 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 13: Five? 1361 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 4: Boom? 1362 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1363 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 2: Season eight. Good job out of us. It goes by 1364 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 2: in a blank. But we spend so much time thirteen. 1365 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 2: For me, it's gracious, the uh, we spend so much 1366 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 2: time on this bottom roster stuff in August and then 1367 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 2: we once next week happens. You don't hardly talk about 1368 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 2: this at all at all. You don't talk about the 1369 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 2: practice squad oftentimes, well, guys will come and go on 1370 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: our practice squad and I don't even know who they are. 1371 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 2: And because we're not, you're not dealing in that world. 1372 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: You you deal in the world right now. Next week 1373 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 2: you deal with the thirty five or forty guys that 1374 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,919 Speaker 2: are going to be in the mix. That's the ones 1375 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 2: that you know. And the rest of it is, it's 1376 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 2: the bottom of it, so any and. 1377 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 3: You always hope right that you can find the Adam 1378 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 3: Thielen or that you can find the Victor Cruz. You know, 1379 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 3: those are the some of the great sources. And there 1380 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 3: are a ton of undrafted players in the Pro Football. 1381 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 1382 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 3: So it's just but yeah, the botto. These guys eventually, 1383 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 3: you know, need to get into bigger roles. But this 1384 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 3: is a very quick thing here. It is a very 1385 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 3: very quick type of a thing. 1386 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 4: I am. 1387 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 3: Focus much more on Quinchawn Judkins than I am on 1388 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 3: Waiver claims. 1389 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just trying to think, like unsettled rosters 1390 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 2: issues around the league. It's him, It's Parsons because with 1391 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 2: Rashey Rice getting done today, McLaurin getting done, Hendrickson getting. 1392 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 10: Done, Juwan Jennings still holding out in Sam. 1393 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 2: Jenning's Is Jennings is that sorted? 1394 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,919 Speaker 3: I don't think so. He was drafted in a bunch 1395 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 3: of fantasies. By the way, I've just I meant I've 1396 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 3: reached the age where I'm like so done being a 1397 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,800 Speaker 3: fantasy commissioner. Like people complaining, it's like I just have 1398 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 3: no time for it anymore. I just want to play. 1399 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 3: And I there was a time in my life where 1400 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 3: I was like emotionally invested in the outcomes of my 1401 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 3: fantasy teams. And it's not because now we can't play 1402 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 3: for you know, money or anything like that in the NFL. 1403 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 3: Like that doesn't I played for a penny. It's more 1404 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 3: pride and talking smack is all the matters, but it's 1405 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 3: it doesn't have the juice that it used to have. 1406 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more. 1407 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 3: I was not saying. I mean, that was my career. 1408 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 3: That's how I got here. Was fantasy for sure. 1409 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 2: I never had the passion for it that you did. 1410 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 2: But I always had the one league that I did 1411 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 2: with all the Florida guys that I'm still in. This 1412 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 2: is year twenty five of that league, So that one 1413 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 2: I've done forever, and then I usually had a second 1414 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 2: one that I would do through the years, and then 1415 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 2: I kind of peeled off the second one. I'm just like, 1416 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 2: I can't pay attention to two teams. It's a pain 1417 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 2: in the neck. Who's on what team? 1418 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 3: I go way too many teams. But like it's more 1419 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 3: I want leagues that are just fun, that have a 1420 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 3: little bit of smack talk, but always complaining about rules 1421 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 3: or trying to change everything. Just like it is what 1422 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,640 Speaker 3: it is. We'll just play and be fine. And I 1423 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,640 Speaker 3: gotta say, last night I did a draft with my 1424 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,560 Speaker 3: buddies from aiw app Intents Wrestling. By the way, I 1425 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 3: hate to give you a little teaser here, but there 1426 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,719 Speaker 3: may have been late night discussions the other day about 1427 01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 3: a potential tag team maybe going one more time knew it. 1428 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 2: I hope your wife one more that I knew that 1429 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 2: was coming. 1430 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 3: You get to a taste one more time for me, 1431 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 3: but a first time for somebody else. Well that would 1432 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 3: be the tag team. 1433 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I feel like I could do bath 1434 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 2: pretty quickly and figure out what that is. I think 1435 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 2: wives are going to be consulted on all fronts on 1436 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 2: something like that, and I'll be curious to see if 1437 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: that comes to fruition. But you're going back in the ring, 1438 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,840 Speaker 2: that's a lock. No, I don't very particular circumstances. That's 1439 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 2: a circumstance that would you'll find this finance. 1440 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 3: I think you're going to find get you back there anyway. 1441 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 3: Did a draft with my ai W last night. We 1442 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 3: drafted sixteen rounds Okay, Okay and the earlier league, one 1443 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 3: of the leagues that I really like. It's a sixteen 1444 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 3: round draft. And it took like two hours. There's like 1445 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 3: a two minute limit for some people taking two minutes, Like, 1446 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 3: what are we doing take two minutes? 1447 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Is it in person or was it online online totally? 1448 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 2: Is there a stream or a zoom or anything or not? 1449 01:09:59,320 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 14: No. 1450 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 3: Our AIW draft last night began at ten pm, okay 1451 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,679 Speaker 3: and it ended at ten thirty seven. 1452 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Perfect excuse me. It was the thirty seven minute. 1453 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 3: It was the best draft I've ever been a part 1454 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 3: of it. 1455 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 2: And they picked, and they just picked. 1456 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 3: It was like, oh wow, I see what's coming here. 1457 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 4: I know who I want. 1458 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick them. The first round, the first round, 1459 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 3: the first ten picks happened in less than one minute. 1460 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 2: The first round was just like there were no auto drafters. 1461 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 3: Pick nine was an auto drafter, but it didn't. I mean, 1462 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 3: so what out of ten? 1463 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's insane. God blessed, I've never heard of 1464 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 2: such a thing. 1465 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 3: I sent a I sent a chant. I said, I 1466 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 3: gotta tell you something I've done this long time. This 1467 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 3: is the best draft I've ever been. 1468 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if I like that. Oh I love that? 1469 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 3: Oh I love that. 1470 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,560 Speaker 2: Are you like I'm like being at a bar, I 1471 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 2: like cocktailing? Well sure, that's different experience though, but that's 1472 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 2: a heck of a lot better than being in an online, 1473 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 2: no zoom, no hanging draft that's two out and you're. 1474 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 10: Like, you're you're starting a draft. It's a ten o'clock 1475 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 10: at night. There's a potential that you're still drafting at 1476 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 10: twelve thirty. 1477 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 6: In the morning. 1478 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 2: Well, if you're in person that's a lock. Yes, the 1479 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 2: person it's. 1480 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 3: Even at home, like well the way that not the 1481 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 3: way these guys roll. Yeah, it's called thirty seven minutes. 1482 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 2: I kind of feel about fantasy drafts the way I 1483 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: feel about golf. Be bad fast, that's right, So just 1484 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 2: just go. There is no certainties in this stuff, man, 1485 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 2: And I the one I did on Monday, I told 1486 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 2: you guys, I've never been less prepared, never, But I 1487 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: forgot it was happening. I don't know, I thought because 1488 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 2: I was drafting guys that get hurt, and like I 1489 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 2: know McCaffrey two times I've drafted first round, and I 1490 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 2: was picking nine, which I am convinced is the worst 1491 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: place you can pick, and the whole thing, and and 1492 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 2: I just didn't have a feel for any of it. 1493 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 2: The guys that I wanted to pick were picked right 1494 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 2: ahead of me first three picks, and just kind of 1495 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,599 Speaker 2: had to scramble and did up. Didn't end up liking 1496 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 2: my team at all. I can't even tell you he's 1497 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 2: on it. It was your top pick at number nine? 1498 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 2: Is it a is it a do you? Is it 1499 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,719 Speaker 2: a keeper at all? Is it neighbors? 1500 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 4: Oh? 1501 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 6: Malik? 1502 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, sure was Neighbors. 1503 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:10,600 Speaker 3: Was it? 1504 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh, is it Nico Collins? Nico? I think it was 1505 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 2: Nico Collins. I think it was Nico Collins. And then 1506 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 2: I can't remember who I got. I remember I wanted. 1507 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 2: I wanted Derrick Henry, and then there was a receiver 1508 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 2: might have been Neighbors. Might have been the two that 1509 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 2: I wanted, and they went right before me both times 1510 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 2: I got. 1511 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 3: I was pretty pumped in this one. Not that anybody 1512 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 3: cares about your fantasy team, but here you go real 1513 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 3: fast PP a full p PR league, and you can 1514 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 3: start four receivers, So yeah, I want to try to 1515 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 3: be loaded up there. So my uh, my receivers are 1516 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 3: ceedee Lamb, Nico Collins, Davante Adams. 1517 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 2: How many teams in this dress? You ended up with? 1518 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 3: Those guys and Calvin Ridley, those are my like top 1519 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 3: four receivers. 1520 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 2: Are you playing against botsy? 1521 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,760 Speaker 3: No, my running backs those guys as I zigged when 1522 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 3: they zact, so I went wide Rezero wide receier. A 1523 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 3: lot of people were trying to getrunning backs, but then 1524 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 3: I still ended up at running back with Kenneth Walker, 1525 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 3: traveon R. J. Harvey out in Denver, Austin, Eckler. I 1526 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 3: got Dak and dog Murray a little howk just got dogs. 1527 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Look at that bring him in here, Bring that guy 1528 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 2: in there. I like the Look at that guy, the 1529 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: front guy. 1530 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 6: I like that guy. 1531 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, look like maybe a Rhodesian ridgeback. 1532 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 3: So my dog Goldie was uh part it was a 1533 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 3: goal a lab like your childhood dog, my second childhood dog. 1534 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 3: This is the one that Nana gave away. 1535 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 2: Excuse me talking about. 1536 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 3: So it's a good story. 1537 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 2: So Goldies. 1538 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 3: We had Ivory, who was like the greatest dog over. 1539 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 3: She was a Lab Australian Shepherd mixed, the best dog ever. 1540 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 4: Like. 1541 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 3: I had friends who were terrified of dogs who then 1542 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 3: got around Ivory and then they were. 1543 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 2: Like, I need a dog, and they would go on. 1544 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 3: They'd be great dog owners to this day. Then we 1545 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 3: got Goldie, who was like a rescue. She was like 1546 01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 3: part Rhodesian ridgeback and part of this like crazy hunting dog. 1547 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,839 Speaker 2: Okay, like some sort of a hound. Well, the Rhodesian 1548 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,679 Speaker 2: ridgeback's a hunting dog. I'm the agent for lions. 1549 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 3: So that and then but it was all everything about 1550 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 3: this dog was like muscle attack for formidable. And she 1551 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 3: was just nuts and high maintenance and like. 1552 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 6: Not ivory. 1553 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 3: I think she had to be a rescue so we'd 1554 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 3: like you'd take her to like the we had a 1555 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 3: biddal that Park I talked about the other day. We 1556 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 3: would go and they have like six soccer fields to 1557 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 3: baseball diamonds, Like it wasn't even enough room for it. 1558 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 3: The fastest and most ethnic diversity in my life, Like 1559 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 3: that was nuts. So we're down in Porto Iarda with 1560 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 3: my mom and dad and then my our family friend 1561 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 3: Kathy Ramos, and we're I'm in college at this point. 1562 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 3: So We're in the taxi to go into town and 1563 01:14:52,840 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 3: I say, simply, how's Goldie. My mom oh, yelling blah blah, 1564 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 3: starts screaming at me basically, oh, we gave her away, 1565 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,680 Speaker 3: basically to Kathy, like why do you have. 1566 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,559 Speaker 2: To bring this up? Well, I'm like, I'm just asking 1567 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 2: how Goldie is. 1568 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 3: And they so they gave they while I was away 1569 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 3: at college, they give goldway, which was fine, Like it 1570 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 3: was fine, but like I also think, like, who's Kathy. 1571 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 3: It was like our family friend, like my mom's best friend. 1572 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, it wasn't like you just like 1573 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 2: pulled over on the corner and said gold to get 1574 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 2: out best of Lune. 1575 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,600 Speaker 3: No, which would have been really sad, would have been 1576 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 3: really sad crazy. Oh my mom goes, oh my regiving 1577 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,680 Speaker 3: away Goldie. She used to jump over a six foot fence. True, 1578 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 3: so she could like get out of our backyard because 1579 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 3: like she was just like. 1580 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 2: She was athletic. 1581 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 6: It was nuts. 1582 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 2: She's the Bo Jackson and dogs she was. 1583 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 3: Well, we had to dog cross the street that jumped 1584 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 3: over fences with a dog and smell. That's another story. 1585 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 3: I already told that story. That was a sad story. 1586 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 3: But now my mom wants you to know that she 1587 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 3: gave her to Kathy, which was funny. I was about 1588 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 3: to tell a story. So Kathy, in addition to gold 1589 01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 3: that she would always have rescue greyhounds, okay, which are 1590 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 3: big dogs. Yes, they run sixty miles an hour. Yes, 1591 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 3: so now you have like this the size of Bo 1592 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 3: did not have that where she wasn't Hayward. I mowed 1593 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 3: the lawn and it was I was in and out 1594 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 3: in five minutes. But there are lots of parks. I mean, 1595 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 3: you go to the parks and let these dogs run. 1596 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 3: But nonetheless, so Ramos had these greyhounds and they you know, 1597 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 3: get your dog, you know, spade and neutered and whatnot. 1598 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 3: So the males would go and you know, snip SIPs. 1599 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 3: So apparently these greyhounds, it was like a big deal 1600 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,639 Speaker 3: to them. So she got this is this is true. 1601 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 3: They surgically attached like fakes, a fake fake testicles, excuse me, 1602 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 3: to the dogs. So they still had they felt like 1603 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 3: they were still whole. Look at what my mom said. 1604 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 3: Let's read the bomb sense. Well, don't read, but just 1605 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 3: read it so you know the. 1606 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 2: So there's a lot. That's a crazy stuff I've ever 1607 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 2: heard in my life. 1608 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you see sometimes on like the back of trucks, 1609 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 3: people put them on the back of trucks. 1610 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't get that at all. 1611 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 3: No, that's what's strange things I've ever seen. 1612 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 4: It is very strange. 1613 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 2: The term for that, I just can't say it. 1614 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 4: On the Oh there is a term for it. 1615 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 1616 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm curious. Well yeah, so, wow, Goldie just given away. 1617 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 3: I find out in Mexico and like my mom like 1618 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 3: goes into a fit because I asked how Goldie was doing. 1619 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 2: You didn't know that they'd given her away. No, how's 1620 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 2: the dog? 1621 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 3: This is my dog gone. 1622 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ask Kathy, Ask Kathy, she's got her yeah. Jeez, 1623 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 2: oh man, We'll do a little higher lower. 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Time for a little higher or lower, 1635 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 2: a little better or worse? Hello, Gibbeck, gentleman, Hi better 1636 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 2: or worse? Oh, HI football team is on the football field, 1637 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 2: all right, ah, right now. Some news out of Houston, 1638 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 2: by the way, Texans GM Nick Cassario non committal about 1639 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 2: whether Pro Bowl running back Joe Mixon will play at 1640 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 2: all in twenty twenty five. So I heard Schefter talking 1641 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 2: about this too, and kind of that's kind of what 1642 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,559 Speaker 2: he said, which was that he couldn't he had reached 1643 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 2: out to Houston looking for an answer on what is 1644 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 2: going on, and he never got one, and he's led 1645 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 2: to believe that it's possible that Mixon won't play it 1646 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 2: all this year, which would put them Obviously, Nick Chubb 1647 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 2: goes to the front of that line, but by most 1648 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 2: accounts I've read down there, it's been kind of rough 1649 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,600 Speaker 2: for Nick, as you can imagine, coming off of catastrophic 1650 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 2: injuries and all of those things. That is a team 1651 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 2: that doesn't have a whole lot of holes. So someone 1652 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 2: is gonna have to step up in that operation. I'm 1653 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 2: not sure exactly who it would be. I don't know 1654 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,560 Speaker 2: their depth chart well enough, but that's that is that 1655 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 2: would be a big one. I mean, are they gonna 1656 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 2: go by committee? 1657 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 3: So they got they have Woody Marx? Is who somebody 1658 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 3: they drafted this year? I want to say, in the 1659 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 3: fourth round, fourth or fifth round? Fourth round? 1660 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth round pick Woody Marx. And then that Amian 1661 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:30,760 Speaker 2: Pierce is there. 1662 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is fantasy relevant back in like twenty nineteen. 1663 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 2: Maybe he was on the Yeah, fourth rounder in twenty 1664 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 2: twenty two. 1665 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 3: Damien Pierce, Yeah, he was good in twenty twenty twenty two. 1666 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 3: I think in twenty twenty two. I'm going to say 1667 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,800 Speaker 3: right now, this is off the top of my head. 1668 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at after I say it, but I'm 1669 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 3: say first, I think he had nine hundred I'm gonna 1670 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 3: call it nine hundred and thirty one yards rushing that year. 1671 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 6: It's incredible. 1672 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 2: If that's in the vicinity, very good job at you. 1673 01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 3: Well, or we don't say that, Yeah, we don't know. 1674 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 15: That could be feels like it is. Say it confidently, 1675 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 15: I'll believe it. Nine God, that's a great job out 1676 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 15: of you n nine. Yeah, yeah, because I mean the 1677 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 15: rest of their roster is pretty set. Their defense is 1678 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 15: gonna be one of the best in the league, I'm 1679 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,640 Speaker 15: telling you. And offensively they got a ton It's just 1680 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 15: they just need a little out of their backs. 1681 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 3: This Jaden Higgins, Yeah, I think there's a lot of 1682 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,920 Speaker 3: excitement about him down there, six four two fifteen. He's 1683 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 3: gonna be on one side and on the other side 1684 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 3: runs a four four forty And on the other side 1685 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,680 Speaker 3: he got Nico Collins and then he got Christian Kirk 1686 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 3: still running around in the middle. 1687 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 6: Yep. 1688 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 3: I mean that feels like winning, especially in that division. Yeah, 1689 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 3: they're gonna be fun. I think they're gonna be fun. 1690 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 2: Sidebar. 1691 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:55,880 Speaker 10: Carson Schwessinger voted the twenty twenty five Maurice Bassett Award, winner, 1692 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 10: given to the team's most outstanding rookie and training camp, 1693 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 10: is voted by the Browns media. 1694 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 3: Say you what there was any there's some competition there, Yeah, 1695 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 3: there are some competition. I think that that's I think 1696 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 3: it's it's right, but there is some real competition. They 1697 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,479 Speaker 3: could have been Gauge, Aiden, Mason Graham, Aiden Huntington, Gauge, 1698 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:15,479 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel. 1699 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so. 1700 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 2: All right, a little higher, lower, dude. 1701 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,640 Speaker 10: The ESPN experts ranked the top one hundred players in 1702 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,240 Speaker 10: the NFL just out this week. 1703 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:28,799 Speaker 4: The rules. 1704 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,600 Speaker 10: They're ten experts asked to rank players based on expected 1705 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 10: performance for the twenty twenty five season. Their rankings are 1706 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 10: based on predicting potential greatness rather than past performance. We 1707 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 10: use those ten sets of votes to come up with 1708 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 10: our consensus top one hundred. They had fifteen qbs fifteen 1709 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 10: wide receivers in their top one hundred. The Eagles had 1710 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 10: ten players, the Lions with eight to forty nine, Ers 1711 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 10: of Ravens with six each, Saints and Anthers did not 1712 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 10: have a player on that list. 1713 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm telling New Orleans is dread It's dreadful. 1714 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 3: If you need a defense week one, I'm pretty sure 1715 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 3: Arizona opens the season against New Orleans. I think like 1716 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 3: you could stream whoever's playing New Orleans every week? 1717 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 6: Just fine? 1718 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think fine. 1719 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1720 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 9: Uh. 1721 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 10: Brown's had two guys make the list. Miles was third. 1722 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 10: Denzel Ward was seventy ninth, and he was listed as 1723 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 10: the number seven corner in the National Football League. 1724 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:33,880 Speaker 2: Too low for. 1725 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,679 Speaker 3: Denzel seventh corners too low, way too low, not even 1726 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 3: in the vicinity of appropriate. 1727 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,680 Speaker 2: All right, so higher lower? Where should he? 1728 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 3: He's better than that? 1729 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,479 Speaker 2: And he should be better than Jay Johnson at sixty eight. 1730 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I'd put him at if i'd put him four, 1731 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 3: i'd put him for as well. I was gonna say, 1732 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 3: put him fortieth, yeah, or thirty ninth where Trent mcguffee is. 1733 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so behind Sirtan, Stingley and Gardner slot him right 1734 01:22:59,000 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 2: in there. 1735 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I would tend to agree. All right, we'll talk 1736 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 10: quarterbacks here. Should the following be ranked higher lower? 1737 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 2: Or are they just right? Carmen real quickly? We did 1738 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 2: get Jordan Schultz with some breaking news, former Jets wide 1739 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,000 Speaker 2: receiver Malachi Corley is signing with the Browns. 1740 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 1741 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 2: According to Jordansults and told Corley had multiple opportunities on 1742 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 2: the open market. Ultimately chose Cleveland. That could make it. 1743 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 3: That could be if that pans out, that could make it. 1744 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 3: That could be tough for gauge because Malachi Corley was 1745 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 3: very well thought of coming out of school in twenty 1746 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 3: twenty three. Is the third rounder of the Jets, coming 1747 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 3: out of Western Kentucky. Over his last two years at 1748 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 3: Western Kentucky put up twenty two hundred total yards twelve touchdowns. 1749 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:48,800 Speaker 2: He's one of those guys. 1750 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 3: Get him the ball, let him do his thing, can return. 1751 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 6: It as well. 1752 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 2: See a Bailey Zappi on the other end of that target. 1753 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 2: Wasn't wasn't he wasn't he at Western Kentucky when they 1754 01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:58,799 Speaker 2: threw for all the yards? 1755 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 3: Twenty oh? 1756 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:00,639 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1757 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 3: He was a Hilltoper's say. Twenty twenty two. Austin Reid 1758 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,719 Speaker 3: was the quarterback in twenty twenty two. Threw for forty 1759 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 3: seven hundred and forty six yards, forty touchdowns, and eleven picks. 1760 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three. Was also Austin Reid, So maybe it 1761 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 3: maybe Zappi was early. Well he was there in twenty 1762 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,639 Speaker 3: twenty one. Yeah, Zappi in twenty one throws for fifty 1763 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 3: nine hundred and sixty seven yards and sixty two touchdowns 1764 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,600 Speaker 3: four and twenty six yards a game. Yeah, Corley was 1765 01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 3: on that team. Leading receiver that year was a guy 1766 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 3: named Jarriff Stearns who I've never heard of before, who 1767 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,760 Speaker 3: had one hundred and fifty catches, nineteen hundred and two 1768 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,480 Speaker 3: yards and seventeen touchdowns. 1769 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 6: Wow. 1770 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 3: Man, So Corley remember famously with the Jets, and I 1771 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,799 Speaker 3: want to say it may have even been as early 1772 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 3: as that game last year didn't have one where he 1773 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,160 Speaker 3: just like dropped the ball going into the end zone, 1774 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 3: see that one, like you Yes, let's say I'm gonna pull. 1775 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 2: Up a game A Max says you are correct, and 1776 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:03,559 Speaker 2: that would have. 1777 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,799 Speaker 3: Been I want to say it was like, Yeah, against Houston, 1778 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,760 Speaker 3: he had an eighteen yard run and was in the 1779 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 3: end zone on like a reverse and then dropped the 1780 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,240 Speaker 3: ball before he went in. Not much production in his 1781 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 3: one season in the league. Cut a year later, three 1782 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 3: catches sixteen yards. He had two rushes for twenty six yards. 1783 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 3: Did he do any returning for them does not appear, so. 1784 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 6: So the Jets. 1785 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 2: There's also a tie to the movie Draft Day here 1786 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 2: with him that and now I remember this reading this 1787 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 2: from the New York Post. The Jets drafted Corley sixty 1788 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,200 Speaker 2: five overall in twenty four with much fanfare. They traded 1789 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 2: up to get him after the draft, released a text 1790 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 2: message on social media from then coach Robert Sala to 1791 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 2: then general manager Joe Douglas. It said, no matter what, 1792 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,639 Speaker 2: with a photo of Corley a reference to the movie 1793 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,759 Speaker 2: Draft Day, Yack king at Western. 1794 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 3: We brought him in for a top thirty visit last year, 1795 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 3: so somebody we've had our eye on, and we'll see 1796 01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 3: if he's he's going to get an opportunity. 1797 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Must have liked, Yeah, all. 1798 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,799 Speaker 10: Right, real quick, I'm just gonna go through the fifteen 1799 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 10: quarterbacks that are listed. You tell me if they should 1800 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,080 Speaker 10: be higher lower. You don't have to tell me where 1801 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 10: they should be, but you can just tell me higher lower, 1802 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 10: just right. Number one is Patrick Mahomes higher lower, just right, 1803 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 10: He's fine, can't be higher. 1804 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 3: Hey's I think he's signed? Yeah, No one for no 1805 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,800 Speaker 3: one who is trying to win one game wouldn't pick him. 1806 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 3: He's only been to the Championship Game or the Super 1807 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 3: Bowl as they started quarterback. 1808 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, So he has to be yep, 1809 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 2: number two, Josh Allen. 1810 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 6: This is where I flip. 1811 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 3: I'd go Lamar. 1812 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:42,840 Speaker 6: I go Lamar too. 1813 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson had the greatest I think it's weird, like 1814 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,639 Speaker 2: he's actually undervalued as the third quarterback. He's the most prolific. 1815 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,720 Speaker 2: He's kind of turned it. He doesn't have the Super 1816 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 2: Bowl yet. But there's a little Manning to this, like 1817 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,720 Speaker 2: he's he's he's kind of the modern Manning Patton in 1818 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 2: that not stylistically, but like his regular seasons are extraordinary. 1819 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 2: He's a two time MVP. Really should be three. 1820 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 3: He should have won it again last year. 1821 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:06,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1822 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 3: Last year he threw for just some people understand this 1823 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:15,520 Speaker 3: and seventy two yards, forty one touchdowns, four interceptions. 1824 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1825 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 3: The last two seasons he's got sixty five touchdowns passing 1826 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 3: and eleven interceptions. 1827 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 4: Oh. 1828 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 3: By the way, he also ran last season for nine 1829 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen yards four touchdowns at six point six 1830 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,640 Speaker 3: yards a carrier. He is the only quarterback in the 1831 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,639 Speaker 3: history of the National Football League. You have a season 1832 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 3: in which he throws for four thousand yards and rushes 1833 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,519 Speaker 3: for nine hundred yards. And by the way, he led 1834 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 3: the league with a touchdown interception ratio again, I'll say 1835 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 3: it of forty one. 1836 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,360 Speaker 6: To four in just about. 1837 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 2: Half if not more. 1838 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 10: Of the teams wanted him to play defense, oh, coming 1839 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 10: out of it. 1840 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,879 Speaker 3: And he was pretty good last year in the playoffs. 1841 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,400 Speaker 3: It's kind of amazing that they lost. Obviously, they Mark 1842 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 3: Andrews catches that ball. They beat Buffalo, Yeah, they win. 1843 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 3: They really didn't deserve the seventy four percent completions, four 1844 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,640 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty nine yards, four touchdowns, one pick, a 1845 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,240 Speaker 3: rating of one hundred and twenty two point five and 1846 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 3: then added as a runner in the playoffs as well 1847 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,800 Speaker 3: last year one hundred and twenty yards, six yards of carry, 1848 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 3: I mean three hundred yards of offense, basically four touchdowns, 1849 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 3: one pick and they lost and I did drop he 1850 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 3: lost that one fumble that was unfortunately a little bit 1851 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:28,160 Speaker 3: of a big one. 1852 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,639 Speaker 10: Uh okay. Uh So you would add Lamar ahead of Allen. 1853 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 10: Lamorrow was number five. I had a burrowhead of Allen two. 1854 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 10: They did it a Super Bowl, Yeah, beat Mahomes. 1855 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1856 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,240 Speaker 2: Then you got to drop all the way down to 1857 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,360 Speaker 2: twenty four. No, those four are different than everybody else. 1858 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,160 Speaker 2: Then it's a step and then it's a matter of 1859 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,680 Speaker 2: can Jayden get into that mix. I mean, he was 1860 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 2: incredible last year. I'd like to see it again. Can 1861 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 2: c J bounce back after the year he had? We 1862 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,120 Speaker 2: were all waiting on Justin Herbert Jalen Hurts all he 1863 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 2: does his win yeap, so that you know that part 1864 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 2: of it too. So I think that next group to 1865 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 2: me is Daniels, Herbert Hurts. 1866 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,400 Speaker 3: Daniels, Gough maybe should be in there, Stafford should be 1867 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 3: in there. 1868 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have Then that's another stack on 1869 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,160 Speaker 2: this seventy eight ahead of CJ and brock Perty and 1870 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 2: Jordan Love. I don't yeah, John Loves pretty good. 1871 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1872 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 3: Jane Daniels ran for eight hundred ninety one yards last year. 1873 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:32,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1874 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Stacket, that's a lot of good quarterbacks, a lot 1875 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 2: of good quarterbacks in the league, So much more to come. 1876 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,160 Speaker 2: He listened to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1877 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 1: You are listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty 1878 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland, presented by Ballely Bett Sportsbook, an official sports 1879 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1880 01:29:54,960 --> 01:30:01,960 Speaker 6: Please bet responsibly, all right. 1881 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,799 Speaker 2: Previews show tonight seventy eight on the University Hospitals Browns 1882 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,719 Speaker 2: Radio Networks Center. Luke Whippler Andrew Siciliano joined Kennon Gerrod 1883 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 2: tonight for that. So there you go on those things. 1884 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,719 Speaker 2: Just to refresh real quickly. Here in terms of waiver claims, 1885 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 2: Raheem Sanders, running back previously with the Chargers. He was 1886 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 2: claimed earlier today after a four year career in the 1887 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,360 Speaker 2: SEC at Arkansas and South Carolina. And then Jack Bernard 1888 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 2: Converse and then here within the last the corner previously 1889 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 2: of the Jets. Then another Jet, according to Jordan Schultz, 1890 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,320 Speaker 2: just twenty three years old, Malachi Courtley, former third round 1891 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 2: pick out of Western Kentucky. He comes into the mix, 1892 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,920 Speaker 2: reportedly being signed by the Browns as well. 1893 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,799 Speaker 3: Another one from Adam Kaplan look for the former Patriots 1894 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:49,320 Speaker 3: first round pitch guard center Cole Strange to join the 1895 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 3: Browns practice squad. 1896 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:55,719 Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, Holy pot, that's the first time in a minute, 1897 01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:04,679 Speaker 2: in a minute, something say big. That's huge, Bige, next 1898 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 2: Level's next Cleveland Bron's Daily fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1899 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,680 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1900 01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,879 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland