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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. It was a Thursday night ritual in the Santos House.

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<v Speaker 1>Like families all over America, we'd settle in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the TV to watch a sitcom that, from the opening

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<v Speaker 1>bars of its theme song, really spoke to me. That

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<v Speaker 1>show was Cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheers from before a live studio audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like ten Pounds, a comedy about a bar

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston owned by washed up baseball star Sam Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>You've changed letters, no cants.

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<v Speaker 1>The jokes spring from the ups and downs of the

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<v Speaker 1>bars slightly oddball roster of staff and clientele, from prissy

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatrist Frasier Crane to beer loving accountant Norm Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>I like drinking there north same. Oh that's too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just a kid when Cheers was on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't tasted my first beer, and most of the

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<v Speaker 1>jokes went over my head.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hindus believed that you led a good life. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you come back and in elevated state like Colorado?

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I loved Cheers. I fantasized that as an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd move to Boston and hang out in a place

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<v Speaker 1>just like that, night after night after night.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Very sad places some people spend their whole lives in

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<v Speaker 3>the barn.

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<v Speaker 4>Just yesterday, some guy sat right here next to me

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<v Speaker 4>for eleven hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But why did I love Cheers so much? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it mostly came down to the show's theme song, taking

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<v Speaker 1>a break from My life is tough. The song said,

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<v Speaker 1>so wouldn't you like to get away and find a

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<v Speaker 1>spot where community and camaraderie can fix all your troubles?

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a kid, I understood the value of a

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<v Speaker 1>place where you could be known and accepted, where you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be welcomed among friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby where you see it's almost all all as you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be what everybody does. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>Cheers was just a TV show. It was a fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep down, we may all want to go somewhere where

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows our names. But those places are getting harder

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<v Speaker 1>and harder to find. Many are closing their doors, and

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that aren't shutting down are changing. Lots of

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<v Speaker 1>local spots are becoming places where it's incredibly hard to

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<v Speaker 1>see the same face twice, let alone form long term

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<v Speaker 1>friendships with a bunch of regulars, which, as we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode is bad for all our happiness in

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty fundamental ways. But the most sad thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that the same fate has even befallen my beloved Cheers Bar.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the ratio of people who come here who are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of from Boston versus tourists? Is it mostly tourists now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's very heavily tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>Our minds are constantly telling us what to do to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy. But what if our minds are wrong? What

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<v Speaker 1>if our minds are lying to us, leading us away

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<v Speaker 1>from what really make us happy. The good news is

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<v Speaker 1>that understanding the science of the mind can point us

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<v Speaker 1>all back in the right direction. You're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Happiness Lab with doctor Laurie Santos.

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<v Speaker 3>They liked the intimacy of it. It's small, about seven

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty square feet, so that they were relaxed

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<v Speaker 3>and could meet other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Kershaw is something of a Boston legend, and so

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<v Speaker 1>is his bar. Long before Cheers appeared on the Santo's

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<v Speaker 1>Family television, his Bull and Finch tavern was pulling in

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<v Speaker 1>Bostonian drinkers from all walks of life.

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<v Speaker 3>We had college professors, we had college graduates, we had

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<v Speaker 3>construction workers. I remember one fella, Butchi. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of was a man of all trades. What a

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<v Speaker 3>whot he was, and he was there every night.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bull and Finch was inspired by the cozy pubs

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<v Speaker 1>Tom had visited on trip to England. He even had

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<v Speaker 1>the interior built in Britain and shipped over piece by piece.

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<v Speaker 1>The tavern opened in nineteen sixty nine and was soon

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<v Speaker 1>buzzing with locals.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just nice people being nice feople, and they

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<v Speaker 3>became good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just beer that was acting as a

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<v Speaker 1>social lubricant. Tom had imported another pub fixture from England,

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<v Speaker 1>a dart board.

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<v Speaker 3>That dartboard was the melting pot, the entree into meeting

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<v Speaker 3>people and becoming friends with people.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bullet Finch quickly became what sociologists referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>a third place. Third places are locations that aren't home

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<v Speaker 1>or work, those first and second places where we spend

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<v Speaker 1>most of our time. Third places are another space where

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<v Speaker 1>people can get together for the sort of informal social

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<v Speaker 1>interactions that make us all feel happier. And third places

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<v Speaker 1>aren't just bars. They can be lions clubs, barbershops, community parks,

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shops, rotary clubs, PTA meetings, or churches. To qualify

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<v Speaker 1>as a third place, a spot doesn't just need a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, but a lot of regulars. People need

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<v Speaker 1>to have enough repeated connections and conversations that they start

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like a community. Third places also have a

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<v Speaker 1>knack for bringing together different kinds of folks. Their neutral

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<v Speaker 1>grounds where nobody cares all that much about your income

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<v Speaker 1>or background. There are spots where people are all the

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<v Speaker 1>same as that great Cheers theme song put it, and

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<v Speaker 1>their spots where the regulars wind up feeling happier and

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<v Speaker 1>more connected. Tom in his dart playing regulars could tell

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bull and Finch was a special kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gathering spot. But what they didn't know was that a

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<v Speaker 1>big change was looming. Because it turns out some television

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<v Speaker 1>producers James Burrows and brothers Glenn and Less Charles, were

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<v Speaker 1>on the hunt for their next sitcom. The trio had

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<v Speaker 1>worked on a string of hit shows that were set

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<v Speaker 1>in workplaces like hospitals and newsrooms, and they had just

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped their Emmy Award winning comedy Taxi, which centered around

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<v Speaker 1>a group of New York cabbies. The producers thought a

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<v Speaker 1>third place, namely a neighborhood bar, would be the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>venue for their new show, and Boston seemed like the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal setting. The city's unusual mix so blue collar workers

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<v Speaker 1>and nerdy academic types hadn't yet been featured on a sitcom.

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<v Speaker 1>The new show would be filmed on a Hollywood soundstage,

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<v Speaker 1>but the producers wanted to find a real life bar

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<v Speaker 1>for the exterior shots, so they grabbed a Yellow Pages,

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<v Speaker 1>went down the list of Boston bars and spotted a

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<v Speaker 1>big ad for the Bull and Finch. One morning, two

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<v Speaker 1>strangers from Hollywood were waiting outside when Tom's bar manager

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at work. Can we come in?

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<v Speaker 3>He said, sure, I'm hoping the business. They walked in,

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<v Speaker 3>they looked around, looked at each other and said, this

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<v Speaker 3>is it. They went to the pay phone and called

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<v Speaker 3>their mates and jey, eureka, we have found it.

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<v Speaker 1>The outside of the pub was perfect, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on inside that really matched what the

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<v Speaker 1>producers wanted for their new show. The clientele at the

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<v Speaker 1>Bull and Finch was the exact oddball mix the writers

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he had Norm and Cliff and Carla and

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<v Speaker 3>the other had you had Frazier Lilith.

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<v Speaker 1>So did the character seem to map onto any of

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<v Speaker 1>the actual regulars?

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<v Speaker 3>And ye, absolutely we had Fred or that's Susie or

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<v Speaker 3>that's you know whatever. Yeah, we played that game as

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<v Speaker 3>to who was the characters they copied.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom's a graduate of Harvard Business School, so he can

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<v Speaker 1>spot a good deal for allowing his bar to feature

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<v Speaker 1>in Cheers. He was paid just a dollar, but he

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<v Speaker 1>soon made a fortune from the publicity surrounding the show

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<v Speaker 1>and from selling Cheers merchandise to the fans who flocked

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<v Speaker 1>to drink in his now world famous pub. So how

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<v Speaker 1>many people come here a year?

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<v Speaker 3>You knows, a just thousands of people, that's not millions.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is you can't be one of Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>top tourist attractions and a place where everybody knows your name.

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<v Speaker 1>The regulars don't come so regularly anymore. And if someone

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<v Speaker 1>does know your name at the Bull and Finch today,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably a gag that the staff are playing along with.

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<v Speaker 3>We have people that come and say I have a

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<v Speaker 3>friend coming. His name's Fred. When you walk in the door,

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait, say hi, I've Fred.

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<v Speaker 2>People love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas thrilled that his pub has become more profitable than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>especially a time when so many similar businesses have closed

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<v Speaker 1>their doors. But the Bull and Finch isn't the home

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<v Speaker 1>away from home it used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Times change, people's attitudes, change people's needs, change the neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 3>themselves change. The business is a very dynamic business, and

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<v Speaker 3>what's popular today could be unbopyar tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I started with the story of Cheers, not because this

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<v Speaker 1>is an episode about the mixed fortunes of the tavern business,

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<v Speaker 1>but because research shows that what happened to the bar

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<v Speaker 1>I fantasized about as a kid isn't unique. Lots of

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<v Speaker 1>third places are in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm born on nineteen forty one, so I'm pre boomer.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes pretty old people to be able to recognize

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Political scientist Robert Putnam has been keeping a close eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the decline of third places. He started noticing their

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<v Speaker 1>demise in his own community thanks to his wife and

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<v Speaker 1>collaborator Rosemary.

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<v Speaker 2>One breakfast, she put the gloves and globe on the

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<v Speaker 2>table and say, look at this. Apparently they're having trouble

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<v Speaker 2>getting enough people to go to the PGA. Now in someplace,

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<v Speaker 2>I've forgotten bill record or god knows where, and she said, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened to that?

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<v Speaker 1>But Robert wasn't worried about school governance. His real concern

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<v Speaker 1>was that skipping the PTA meetings to work late or

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<v Speaker 1>bing something on Netflix was affecting our happiness and connection.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that's shocking is if you ask

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<v Speaker 2>people what makes them happy, everybody says it's my family

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<v Speaker 2>and my friends and neighbors. I mean it just hands down.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody says, what makes me happy is my buick.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robert should know. He's now in his mid eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and remembers how things were when he was growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in Port Clinton, Ohio. Back then, Little Bobby Putnam was

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by third places where people mingled day in and

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<v Speaker 1>day out.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad every morning went to a diner in town

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<v Speaker 2>to have breakfast. It was called the Breakfast Club, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, sort of a cross section one

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<v Speaker 2>of the richest people in town, although none of us

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<v Speaker 2>knew that was in that group.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert also found his own favorite third place, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a diyner or a bar. It was a bowling alley.

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<v Speaker 2>In junior high school, I was part of a five

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<v Speaker 2>men bowling team, and we did pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>We were not great, but bawling a three hundred game

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really the point of hitting the lanes. Being on

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<v Speaker 1>the team allowed people from different identities to connect. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Port Clinton, just like many neighborhoods across America,

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<v Speaker 1>was divided along racial lines.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't want to say this was nirvana. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But just like his dad ate breakfast with the town's

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<v Speaker 1>richest man, Robert's time at the bowling alley was spent

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<v Speaker 1>crossing the societal divides of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a picture that shows the team which is

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<v Speaker 2>three white guys, one tall, gangly guy in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>which was me, and two black guys. And we did

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<v Speaker 2>not think that was strange.

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<v Speaker 1>That Robert says was the power of third places, But

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<v Speaker 1>it was a power that people back then took for Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know a.

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<v Speaker 2>Special and I don't think it was all that special

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<v Speaker 2>in America in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen fifties, But today's science shows that local hangouts like

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<v Speaker 1>these were incredibly special. Research shows that the abundance of

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<v Speaker 1>third places Robert enjoyed not only promoted personal happiness, but

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<v Speaker 1>produced neighborhoods that were better run, more fun to live in,

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<v Speaker 1>and even safer. We'll hear why when the Happiness Lab

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<v Speaker 1>returns from the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Giuseppe had a fictitious younger brother who wanted to become

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<v Speaker 2>an automachetic and he wanted to get the form so

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<v Speaker 2>that they could apply for a subsidy for automachetic school.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the late eighties, political scientist Robert Putnam was

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in some mild academic subterfuge. Robert was interested in

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<v Speaker 1>why some governments worked well while others didn't, so he

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<v Speaker 1>set up a new study in Italy. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know why it was easier to access healthcare or enroll

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<v Speaker 1>a child in kindergarten in some towns but not others.

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<v Speaker 1>So he created fake Italian characters like Dsceppe and had

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<v Speaker 1>them navigate the bureaucracy of different regions. For example, how

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<v Speaker 1>how long would it take Guceppe's equally made up brother

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<v Speaker 1>to successfully apply for vocational training?

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<v Speaker 2>And then we counted how long did it take until

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<v Speaker 2>we got back the forms if we got back almost

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<v Speaker 2>never did we get the forms back, So then Giuseppe

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<v Speaker 2>picked up the phone, and then we counted to how

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<v Speaker 2>many different people was a telephone call passed until at

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<v Speaker 2>last someone would say they were the right person.

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<v Speaker 1>Italy back then was a land of extremes. Some areas

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<v Speaker 1>were ruled by conservatives, others by communists. Some areas were

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<v Speaker 1>rich while others were decidedly not.

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<v Speaker 2>The Solvidly at that point, economically looked like Nicaragua or

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<v Speaker 2>Syria or something pretty undeveloped, pretty poor, and the northern

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<v Speaker 2>regions looked like Holland or Sweden or someplace.

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<v Speaker 1>But new reforms began better balancing how the different regions

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy were governed, and Robert was super excited about

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<v Speaker 1>these changes. These changes allowed Robert to directly test the

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<v Speaker 1>role that culture, wealth, and history played in a government's effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing we found was that richer regions were

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<v Speaker 2>better governed than poor regions, and we thought that makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense because the richer region is going to afford computers

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<v Speaker 2>and more talented people, and saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Robert also found that wealth wasn't the whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>We had many different ideas, many hypolsitis about what the

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<v Speaker 2>secret ingredient might be. It might be politics, it might

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<v Speaker 2>be I don't know. Lots of different things, but we

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<v Speaker 2>never guessed what turned out to be the best predictor.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoying this, I know, edge of the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on. Choral societies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, choral societies those groups of people who get

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<v Speaker 1>together regularly to sing in choirs. Robert found that regions

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<v Speaker 1>with more of these groups were the ones whose governments

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<v Speaker 1>ran most efficiently. Now, I'm guessing choral societies probably wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the answer you were expecting. But Robert's strange result was

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<v Speaker 1>about to get even stranger, because, like a good political scientist,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert decided to look further back in history to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why choirs mattered so much. He thought maybe people

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<v Speaker 1>in richer towns had more spare time and money to

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<v Speaker 1>set up singing clubs. Turns out that wasn't right either.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not that wealth produced choral societies, but the

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<v Speaker 2>choral societies produced wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>The Italian towns where it was easy for Robert's fictional

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<v Speaker 1>citizen Giuseppe to access healthcare or the forms his brother

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<v Speaker 1>needed to train as a mechanic weren't just the towns

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<v Speaker 1>that had the most choral societies. Now, they were also

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<v Speaker 1>the towns that had the most choirs hundreds and hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of choral societies in a region of Italy

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<v Speaker 2>in the thirteenth century predicts, it turns out, not only

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<v Speaker 2>whether Giuseppe will get his medical buility burst, but predicts

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<v Speaker 2>the happiness of people in regions Italy today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>think of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert was excited about these odd findings, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>fully understand the link, that is, until he suffered a

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<v Speaker 1>temporary of insomnia.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, God, I've got to read something boring that

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<v Speaker 2>i'll fall asleep over. And there was a big book

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<v Speaker 2>line open, and I thought, this is clearly going to

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<v Speaker 2>put me to sleep. It was social theory. Foundations of

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<v Speaker 2>Social Theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert just so happened to stumble on a chapter by

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<v Speaker 1>the sociologist James Coleman which explained the concept known as

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<v Speaker 1>social capital. Coleman argued that just as regions can have

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<v Speaker 1>different amounts of physical capital resources like property, roads, and money,

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<v Speaker 1>so too can they amass different amounts of social capital,

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<v Speaker 1>social resources like relationships, networks, and communities.

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<v Speaker 2>I had never heard the term social capital, but I

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<v Speaker 2>began reading it. I said, my god, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I've been studying. I saw essentially instantly why that was

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<v Speaker 2>the right concept to use for choral societies.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert realized that third places like choirs and bowling leagues

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<v Speaker 1>make governments work better because they allow people to build

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<v Speaker 1>social capital. They helped create local networks in which everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows each other's names, and research shows that having people

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<v Speaker 1>around who know our names changes our psychology. It helps

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<v Speaker 1>us behave more virtuously. When people know who we are,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to win their trust, and that means we

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<v Speaker 1>put work into meeting our commitments, playing by the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and settling our bar bills. And if the people around

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<v Speaker 1>us are doing the same thing, if they like us,

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<v Speaker 1>want to be trustworthy and do nice things, then that's

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<v Speaker 1>a win win that makes life easier for everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the community.

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<v Speaker 2>Trustworthiness is demonstrably increased by social networks. If you and

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<v Speaker 2>I are engaged in some kind of transaction and I

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<v Speaker 2>cheat you, you'll be angry at me. But if we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing that in a setting of networks and I cheat

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<v Speaker 2>you and he's watching, he knows that I'm not trustworthy

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<v Speaker 2>because he's seeing me mistreat you, and that means he'll

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<v Speaker 2>never play a game with me. And we generalize that

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody. If everybody in town is looking at this transaction.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a huge incentive not to cheat you.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the reason that choral societies were such

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<v Speaker 1>an important factor in Robert's study of those local Italian governments.

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<v Speaker 1>If a city official sang in a choir with other townspeople,

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<v Speaker 1>their reputation and good name became more important to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't want it getting around town that they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do their job well or send out an application form promptly.

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<v Speaker 2>But the more interesting thing is that social capitalis externalities.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, it has benefits for people outside the networks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that an Italian official would work hard

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<v Speaker 1>for a fellow choir member. The social capital that stems

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<v Speaker 1>from third places like choral societies encourages people to make

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<v Speaker 1>the whole system work better, which means that everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>town gets to enjoy the fruits of more diligence and trustworthiness.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robert observed other externalities too. Take crime, for example.

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<v Speaker 2>The best predictor of a little crime rate in a

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood is how many neighbors know wander this first name.

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<v Speaker 1>If you hang out with your neighbors in a bar,

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<v Speaker 1>or a singing group or Residents Association. You'll start to

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<v Speaker 1>look out for them, and they'll start to look out

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<v Speaker 1>for you too. Robert himself benefits from living in just

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<v Speaker 1>such a neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the moment for confession. I actually never

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<v Speaker 2>went to the picnics and barbecues and slaving parties, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to benefit from the networks of reciprocity

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<v Speaker 2>and people keeping an eye on one of his house

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<v Speaker 2>and so on, even though I was not in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Another example of these social capital building groups is parent

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<v Speaker 1>teacher associations.

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<v Speaker 2>The more the parents are involved in schools, the better

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<v Speaker 2>the performance of the schools, the better performance of the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's true for even kids whose parents are not

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<v Speaker 2>in the PTA. They benefit from the extra anomalies of

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<v Speaker 2>those networks.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Robert's wife, Rosemary showed him the newspaper story

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<v Speaker 1>that PTA attendance was declining in that nearby Massachusetts community

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<v Speaker 1>of bill Ricca, he began to worry.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, I had not ever thought about measuring

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<v Speaker 2>social capital of America. But the first thought is, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with bill Ricca? Is that also true? In intellection? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it turned out to me, could that be true every place?

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<v Speaker 1>And So Robert began a careful statistical study not just

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<v Speaker 1>of PTA membership, but of attendance in third places and

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<v Speaker 1>social groups of all kinds. He tracked what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>to rotary clubs, labor unions, religious groups, Scout troops, fraternal organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>women's groups, and even his favorite teenage third place bowling leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>And by golly, it was true everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert published his findings in a groundbreaking academic article which

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<v Speaker 1>years later became a book. He argued not just that

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<v Speaker 1>our third places and civic groups were in rapid decline,

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<v Speaker 1>but also that society should be much much more worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it. In honor of his own positive experiences in

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<v Speaker 1>Port Clinton, he titled his article Bowling Alone, America's Declining

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<v Speaker 1>social Capital. The article rang alarm bells across the entire country.

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<v Speaker 1>Newspapers picked up Robert's arguments, and politicians vowed to act.

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<v Speaker 2>Within one week, I was invited to Camp David David

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<v Speaker 2>for goodness, Sex and Rosemary and I were on the

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<v Speaker 2>cover of People magazine. So this is not the normal

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<v Speaker 2>experience of any academic.

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<v Speaker 1>So Robert's warning was heated. Right he discovered just how

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<v Speaker 1>important third places were for our happiness and social connection

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<v Speaker 1>in the late nineties, and people listened and things today

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<v Speaker 1>should be great. Right. Unfortunately, that's not how the story went.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Robert's article came out in nineteen ninety five, the

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<v Speaker 1>story of third places has gotten much, much worse. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any way to stop this nasty cycle? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a way we can play a part in bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>third places and all the social capital they create?

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<v Speaker 4>Saying I'm not really a joiner isn't going to cut

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<v Speaker 4>it in the coming decades, because we need people in

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<v Speaker 4>this country to be joiners.

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<v Speaker 1>To hear what we can do to rebuild third places.

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<v Speaker 1>Join me when the Happiness Lab returns in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard Professor Robert Putnam has taught political science to countless

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<v Speaker 1>students over the decades. You remember, like when you first

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<v Speaker 1>heard about bowling alone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you know, I was an incoming freshman and he

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<v Speaker 4>was a professor at the college.

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<v Speaker 1>I's gone too. Many were inspired by his lectures, but

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<v Speaker 1>some have actually decided to act on his dire warnings

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<v Speaker 1>about the decline of third places.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello everyone, I am Pete Davis. I am the co

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<v Speaker 4>director of Joiner Die, new film out about why you

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<v Speaker 4>should join a club and why the fate of America

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<v Speaker 4>may depend on it.

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<v Speaker 1>After arriving in college, Pete Davis took a seminar class

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<v Speaker 1>with Putnam called Community in America. Pete was electrified by

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<v Speaker 1>his teacher.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's so amazing about Bob is he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>just about the academics. He was also about making an

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<v Speaker 4>impact on the country. He thought the best way he

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<v Speaker 4>could make an impact on the country was getting people

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<v Speaker 4>riled up, his students and the people who were reading

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<v Speaker 4>his books to be excited about rejuvenating community in America.

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<v Speaker 4>He's had that spirit in the whole time that I've

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<v Speaker 4>known him these thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert wanted to rekindle the businesses in clubs he'd known

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in the fifties. Pete and the other millennials

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<v Speaker 1>in class had never experienced these third places, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did feel something about their lives wasn't quite right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of people my age feel a

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<v Speaker 4>real sense of lack in the meaning department, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's all connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there are still some spaces that millennials like

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<v Speaker 1>Pete can go to outside of work at home, But

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<v Speaker 1>Pete worries these new places haven't provided his generation with

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting or social capital they crave.

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<v Speaker 4>So many of our third places had become unfortunately corporatized.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you meet in a Starbucks, or you'd

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<v Speaker 4>meet at a McDonald's, or meet at a Panera, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it wouldn't be the story of meeting that

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<v Speaker 4>our grandparents or even parents would remember of meeting at

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<v Speaker 4>an Elks lodge, or meeting at a Masonic temple, or

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<v Speaker 4>meeting at an NAACP headquarters in a state.

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<v Speaker 1>So why aren't people nowadays pushing to develop more of

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<v Speaker 1>these satisfying third places. There are lots of reasons, but

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<v Speaker 1>Pete says at least one of them is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that people today kind of just want to stay home.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the culprits Bob pointed to and Bowling alone

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<v Speaker 4>was television. And I want to be clear, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>the only culprit, but it is a very significant one.

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<v Speaker 4>And part of the reason is that TV provided parasocial interaction.

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<v Speaker 4>You felt like you were friends with the Today Show

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<v Speaker 4>hosts or the sitcom characters TV.

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<v Speaker 1>The irony that television is causing America's decline in third

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<v Speaker 1>places hits pretty hard. I mean My family was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>among the people who stayed home to watch Tears on

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<v Speaker 1>TV while dreaming of someday finding a place where everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knew our names. In retrospect, maybe we should have been

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<v Speaker 1>forming real life social bonds at third places instead of

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with fantasy friends on TV. But Pete says

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<v Speaker 1>the temptation of TV was just the first in a

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<v Speaker 1>series of problematic technological developments.

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<v Speaker 4>What's happened in the twenty years since Bowling Alone is

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<v Speaker 4>we've had an even more supercharged version of parasocial interaction,

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<v Speaker 4>which is everything that's been happening on the Internet because

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<v Speaker 4>you have your friends that you're following on Instagram, but

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<v Speaker 4>you're only experiencing their Internet presence, and so what that's

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<v Speaker 4>doing is giving us this I would call it, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of junk social interaction that's not the nourishing, real world

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<v Speaker 4>social interaction that gives you kind of the full experience

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<v Speaker 4>of community.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete made me realize that we really did squander our

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<v Speaker 1>chance to heed Robert's warning. The momentum his initial Bowling

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<v Speaker 1>Alone article had back in the late nineties was huge.

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<v Speaker 4>The White House calls him up, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>President and first lady in cabinet have all read Bowling

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<v Speaker 4>alone and are interested.

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<v Speaker 1>In talking with them about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you know, after kind of nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>America starts talking about other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine to eleven brought huge political upheavals that overshadowed concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about social capital, but it was also an era that

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<v Speaker 1>saw epic technological change. Many people back then assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>online communities would eventually replace physical spaces. Why gather in

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<v Speaker 1>person for your morning coffee at your charity club when

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<v Speaker 1>you could set up a GoFundMe page that reached hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Why attend a political debate when you could

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<v Speaker 1>join a Facebook group. Online communities can connect us to

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<v Speaker 1>people more easily, but the science shows that these groups

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<v Speaker 1>aren't a great psychological replacement for the face to face

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<v Speaker 1>encounters we get at real life third places. Virtual meetings

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<v Speaker 1>just don't seem to encourage the same trustworthiness that Robert

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<v Speaker 1>saw in his quarrels societies and Bowling leagues, and research

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<v Speaker 1>has shown that we tend not to be our kindest

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<v Speaker 1>selves online. In real life third places promote trustworthiness across

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<v Speaker 1>differing identities, but online communities do just the opposite. They

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<v Speaker 1>so division and misinformation, which if you've been paying attention,

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<v Speaker 1>you know has already led to some really nasty civic results.

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<v Speaker 3>All of us here today do not want to see

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<v Speaker 3>our election victory stolen Boma for that find.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to clear this, we're going to get this

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<v Speaker 4>straightened out, and we're going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to war.

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<v Speaker 1>The events of January sixth are just one reason Pete

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<v Speaker 1>thinks we need to return to Robert's ideas and act

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<v Speaker 1>this time.

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<v Speaker 4>Love of America. There's just been a very growing drum

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<v Speaker 4>beat of interest stemming from personal experience of everyone across America,

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<v Speaker 4>especially young people, that we are living in a social

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<v Speaker 4>isolation crisis, that we are lonely, that we are hungry

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<v Speaker 4>deeply for kind of a rejuvenation of community.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does Pete propose we do well. First, he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks we need to understand that we do have a

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<v Speaker 1>big problem when it comes to social capital, one that's

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<v Speaker 1>getting worse and worse and worse. And that's where his

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<v Speaker 1>new movie, Join Our Die comes in.

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<v Speaker 4>So we hope that the movie can be a catalyzer,

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<v Speaker 4>a week up call of wow, you know, if we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to turn things around as a country, or if

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get all the joys of community.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to become a joiner, Tommy or.

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<v Speaker 2>You good brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I can see the transition in my life from my

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<v Speaker 4>joining lodge.

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<v Speaker 2>Do like who I own out warden We.

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<v Speaker 1>The film chronicles people Pete's age who are doing just this,

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<v Speaker 1>gig workers who are forming new labor unions, bike associations

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<v Speaker 1>who are bringing low income communities together, and even new

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<v Speaker 1>school bowling leagues that are forming where you least expect them.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a very unhappy attorney and became an extremely happy,

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<v Speaker 1>bullying out of the owner. It's a grassroots joiner effort

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<v Speaker 1>that makes Pete feel really hopeful. All right, good evening,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Borland.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not a switch, you know in Fort Knox that

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<v Speaker 4>says isolation versus community. The way it's going to change

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be much more like the growing of

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<v Speaker 4>a forest. We need a thousand different seeds planted of

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<v Speaker 4>new ways of being in a community spirit, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>new ways of getting together with your neighbors, new clubs

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<v Speaker 4>out there, new cultural ideas about the importance of community

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<v Speaker 4>and how we can be better neighbors. All of that

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<v Speaker 4>together in every region across the country is what we need.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the message Bob's been preaching, and I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 4>be a follower. I've been taken in being a follower

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<v Speaker 4>of that, and what we're hoping for with this film

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<v Speaker 4>is we can recruit some more people to this spirit

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<v Speaker 4>of community in the coming years.

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<v Speaker 3>Beer under directly.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete's film title, Join Our Die sounds a little dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>but he thinks there's something important in us that does

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<v Speaker 1>die when we don't have opportunities to build ties with

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<v Speaker 1>our neighbors. If you want your neighborhood to be the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of place where everybody knows you're Pete says, you

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<v Speaker 1>might have to shut off the TV and head out

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<v Speaker 1>of the house so that you can form some community

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<v Speaker 1>with your local barkeeper and bowlers. And if there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>an obvious group to sign up for, then Pete says

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<v Speaker 1>you should put in the work to start one yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That might feel like a big undertaking, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>previous generations did, and through their efforts they found camaraderie

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<v Speaker 1>and comfort. But the importance of joining and creating new

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<v Speaker 1>third places isn't quite the end of our story today.

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<v Speaker 1>Our individual actions count a lot, but Pete says that

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding social capital is also a huge societal challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Cities should take seriously the social infrastructure they have. Our

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<v Speaker 4>libraries are parks, our plazas, where just like how physical

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<v Speaker 4>infrastructure facilitates things like getting the water moving through it

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<v Speaker 4>or the cars moving through it, social infrastructure facilitates the

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<v Speaker 4>building of social capital and the marshaling of social capital

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<v Speaker 4>for community purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in our next episode, we're going to explore

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<v Speaker 1>how those at the top of government are again waking

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<v Speaker 1>up to the need to save the little social infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>we have left and what plans they have to build

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<v Speaker 1>back the social capital needed to protect our future.

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<v Speaker 4>We have met these truly existential threats in the past

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<v Speaker 4>when we have adjusted as a nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely believe that we can find a way out.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you dearly want there to be more places

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<v Speaker 1>where everybody knows your name, I hope you'll return for

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<v Speaker 1>the next episode of The Happiness Lab with me doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Lauriy Santos. The Happiness Lab is co written and produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Ryan Dilley. Our original music was composed by Zachary Silver,

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<v Speaker 1>with additional scoring, mixing, and mastering by Evan Viola. Jess

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<v Speaker 1>Shane and Alice Fines offered additional production support. Special thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to my agent, Ben Davis and all of the Pushkin crew.

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