1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Nikki, the host of The Girlfriend's Untouchable. This 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: episode will tell the story of how an incredible group 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: of people in my city fought to get justice for 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the people they love. But in the process we'll hear 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: stories that involve violence, murder, suicide, and sexual assault. While 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: it's rooted in hope, it may be a tough listen 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: at times if you or someone you love has been 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: affected by any of the themes in the show. We've 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: left some links in the description that offer resources and 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: support take care of yourself. There are some numbers I'm 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: always going to remember my childhood best friend's birthday, my 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: mom's old phone number, and the address of the house 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I lived in as a little kid. For Lamont McIntyre, 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: those memorable numbers are a five digit. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Code six, so five five eight. 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: The inmate number he was given at seventeen years old. 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: I was processed as a maximum security in made because 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: I had two murders, so I became six or five 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 3: five eight now no more than Lamon mgnatarre. 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: He was sent to Hutchinson Correctional Facility, a state prison. 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: They called it Gladair School. 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: It's the most tension field bottom place you ever going 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: your life. 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: The first ten years in prison were rough. Lamon had 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: been convicted of a double homicide. He insisted he had 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the experience plunged him into a deep. 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: Depression, and they had me on suicide watch. As a 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: young person, I don't know how to deal with that. 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: So my nickname became Mugs because I never smiled. I 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: started losing my hair, I started losing my health. 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: While he would occasionally get visits from people he loved, 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Lamont realized that the life he'd left on the outside 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: was moving on without him. He went through deep phases 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: of despair until he made a friend behind barr And 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: there was. 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: A guy named Shorty. And there Shorty was dying and 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: there was no cure for him. 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: He was dying. He knew it. 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Shorty had severe liver damage, but he stared death in 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: the eye with an inspiring level of clarity. 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Shorty had the most peaceful demeanor. He was so peaceful. 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: He told me about spirituality. When I learned about being 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: more peaceful, more calm, more in the moment, I started 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: to educate myself. I started to meditate, I started to exercise. 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: My mindset changed when my mindset changed. Everything changed. At 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: the ten years of being there, I started the focus. 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: On getting out, and the perfect opportunity came along when 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: one of his prison buddies gave him a gift. 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: It's not the Jet magazines, and these jet magazines were 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: sitting here on Ministries. 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: An organization that helps exonerate innocent people who've been falsely convicted. 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Lamont exchanged letters with Centurion Ministries for years as he 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: tried to get them to take on his case. In 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, he finally got a visit from 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: their founder, Jim mcclowskey. 56 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: He was November and it was cold, and he walked 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: into the visitor room. 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Lamont felt a flicker of hope as he realized that 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: the older white man in the room, Jim, was there 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: to see him. 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: He gave me a hug and he looked at me. 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: He said, I got some good news for you. I said, 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: what's the good news? He said, We're taking your case. 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Lamont was relieved to finally have a legal team willing 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: to fight for him, but then they started digging into 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: the case. 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: My lawd come to see me and say you were 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: set up. I said, what do you mean. 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: Set up by Who and Why. 70 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: Why. 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm Nikki Richardson and from the teams at Novel and 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts, This is the Girlfriend's Untouchable. By episode three 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the two day trial, Lamart McIntyre had found a team 74 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: of lawyers to look into his case. 75 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: Starting out, we just wanted to find out how did 76 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: I end up in this situation. 77 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: They needed to examine every aspect of the nineteen ninety 78 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: four investigation into the murders of Donnielle Quinn and Donnie Ewing. 79 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: Lamont's legal team's theory that he had been set up 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: was based on two things. First, the witness testimonies which 81 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: had put Lamont at the scene of the murders. 82 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Doing my lawyer's investigation, they come to find out that 83 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: the district attorney and Tara Moore. 84 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: Had cheated She threatened the witnesses. 85 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: We reached out to Tara moorehead and her lawyer to 86 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: ask her about Nico's claims of witness intimidation. She did 87 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: not wish to provide a comment. Nico Quinn had recanted 88 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: her testimony back in the nineties when Lamont first tried 89 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: to appeal his case. That had come to nothing, but 90 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: when the Mont's legal team reached out to her again. 91 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, she signed another affidavit confessing her false testimony, 92 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: and there was more. Lamont's lawyers had gone in wanting 93 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: to build a case for his innocence, but they kept 94 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: finding stories about the detective at the heart of the investigation. 95 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 2: The Raja Glupski thing popped up in my lawyer's face. 96 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Lamont's mother, Rose, had been sexually assaulted by Gallupski back 97 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: in the eighties, but back then she'd been too scared 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: of what he could do to her to report him 99 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: or speak out, so she kept her story a secret 100 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: out of fear that Gallupski might enact revenge. But now 101 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: that her son had a solid legal team around him 102 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and culture was shifting to better support victims, Rose decided 103 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: it was finally time to speak out. She hoped it 104 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: would help her son's case, but finding out that his 105 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: mother had been holding on to her painful secret for 106 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: so long hit Lamont hard. 107 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: I felt angry. I wanted to hurt that man his 108 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: due violated my mother. 109 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Glupski had sexually as Rose intimidated Nico and rushed through 110 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: a flawed investigation that had put Lamont behind bars. But 111 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: as Lamont's lawyers dig deeper, they learned that the Queen's 112 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: and McIntyre's weren't his only victims. They were on the 113 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: edge of a shocking discovery, and. 114 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: That changed the direction and altered the direction of my 115 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: whole life. 116 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: By twenty sixteen, Lamont's legal team had built up a 117 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: case to try and prove his innocence, but they needed 118 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: someone to help them further investigate Gelupski's history of misconduct, 119 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: so they asked around until they found the perfect woman 120 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: for the job. 121 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 5: I am Kadizra Hardaway. I grew up in Kansas City, Missouri. 122 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Kadija is a black woman in her early fifties who 123 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: loves God, art and helping people feel confident by doing 124 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: their hair. The other central pillar of her life is 125 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: social justice. 126 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: Growing up, I was probably the most outspoken child in 127 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: my family, and I still am. I was taught to 128 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 5: be an activist, probably at the age of five, like 129 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: I've been holding a bullhorn for that long. I'm fifty now. 130 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Kadija had spent years working with Alvin Sykes, a civil 131 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: rights advocate who helped bring about the Emmet Till unsolved 132 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: civil Rights Crime Act of two thousand and seven. The 133 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: act allowed historic unsolved crimes committed against African Americans before 134 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy to be reopened by law enforcement, especially crimes 135 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: related to the civil rights movement. 136 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: We went around a country asking people to come forward 137 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: so that their loved ones, if they were civil rights 138 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: or human rights activists, their one's murders could be investigated. 139 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: So I always find a way, I guess the spiritifires 140 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 5: a way to have me work in cold cases. 141 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: It was this background in unsolved crimes which led Lamont 142 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: McIntyre's lawyers to reach out to Kadeza for help. 143 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 5: When I heard the story, it was heart wrenching, right, 144 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 5: but I didn't know who he was. I'd never seen 145 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: a story in the media or anything. 146 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: The more Kadiza discovered about what Lamont had been through 147 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: at the hands of Detective Glupski, the more determined she 148 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: became to get to the bottom of what had really 149 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: been going on. 150 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 5: And it was like we needed to get justice. 151 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: In the spring of twenty seventeen, Lamont's legal team holds 152 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: a press conference to raise awareness of his case. The 153 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: venue is first Baptist church in Kansas City, Kansas a 154 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: large red brick church which sits on Fifth Street, just 155 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: blocks away from the courthouse. 156 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 5: All of media of Kansas City was in the room. 157 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: Every channel, every newspaper was in the room. 158 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: The pews are filled with cameras and journalists holding microphones. 159 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: There's a speaker's podium below the poolpit. 160 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 5: The Kansasity, Kanson, the Kansas City Star, Channel four, five, nine, 161 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 5: and forty one were all in the room. 162 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: As the press conference begins, speakers are symbol beside the podium. 163 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 5: There was Reverend Rowland, who is the minister at First 164 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:45,119 Speaker 5: Baptist Church, along with Lamont McIntyre's mother and lawyers. 165 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: They all speak about their role in the case, and 166 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: then they passed the mic to Khadija, who stands tall 167 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: and looks straight ahead at the audience of reporters, steady 168 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: beneath the glare of a dozen lenses. She asked that 169 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: anybody who has stories about Roger Glupski or their experiences 170 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: with the police department get in contact with her. She 171 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: records her piece and goes home. When clips of the 172 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: press conference are aired on TV that day, the response 173 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: is astonishing. 174 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: Once it hit the media, my phone immediately started ringing 175 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 5: like I probably got when the first ten minutes of 176 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: the news for broadcasts coming on, I probably got five 177 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 5: calls of people saying, Hey, I know that guy, I 178 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 5: know what he did to this person. I know what 179 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 5: he did to that person. 180 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: And the stories kept coming. 181 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: I began to get calls from people who lived in 182 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: Wyandot County who had loved ones who were affected one 183 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: way or another by Roger Galuski and or the police department. 184 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: In that moment, Kadizu realized that this story was much 185 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: bigger than she'd imagined. What had begun as a plea 186 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: to help exonerate one man was about to become a 187 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: movement to expose decade's worth of abuse, and Khadiza was 188 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: about to have a conversation with a woman whose story 189 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: would change everything. I got you, I got you, I 190 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: got you. One of the first survivors Kadeza Hardaway spoke 191 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: to while trying to gather information to exonerate Lamont was 192 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Ophelia Williams in twenty seventeen. Ophelia is a black woman 193 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: in her mid fifties with locks and weary eyes. Kadiza 194 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: recalls the meeting for the first time. At first Baptist 195 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: church in Kansas City, Kansas. They were introduced by the 196 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: director of a local social justice organization. 197 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: When I first met her, she was really timid. I 198 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: wouldn't necessarily say there was like this spear in her, 199 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: but you could sense the deep pain in her from 200 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 5: what she had experienced. 201 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: After talking for a little while and getting comfortable, Ophilia 202 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: told Kadija her story, which began nearly twenty years earlier. 203 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: It's a summer day in the August of nineteen ninety nine, 204 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: and Ophilia William's two sons, Ronelle and Donnelle, have just 205 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: been arrested in Kansas City, Kansas, on suspicion of a 206 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: double homicide. Their children only fourteen, but they were sent 207 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: to the police station and questioned without their mother or 208 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: a lawyer present. Ophilia is devastated, sitting at home in 209 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: a state of despair. Aphelia didn't speak publicly at the time, 210 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: but she did talk to the press years later about 211 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: what happened to her. 212 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: To Looseby arrested my twin sons at the age of fourteen. 213 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: While they locked up in jail, he decided to come 214 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 4: over my house. 215 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Ophelia tells the story of how Gelupski sat beside her 216 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: on her couch and told her that he knew people 217 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: who could help her sons with their case, but he 218 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: spent the entire conversation leering at her, looking at her 219 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: body in a way that made her uncomfortable. After a moment, 220 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: he placed his hand on her leg. Ophilia slapped it away, 221 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: but he persisted. 222 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: Golosey rape me. He came back and back. I said, 223 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell and he said who you gonna tell? 224 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: I said, I'm look all the police. He said, I 225 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: am the police. 226 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: If she couldn't turn to the authorities to report sexual 227 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: assault because the man who had done it was a 228 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: police officer, who could she turn to. Kadizu realized the 229 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: story was early similar to that of Rose McIntyre, Lamont's mother, 230 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: who Gulupski had assaulted before targeting her child. 231 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: The reason why it took me so long to come out, 232 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: like I said, my twins was only fourteen and Geloospi 233 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: knew a lot of people in jail. 234 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Gulupski used his authority in the Kansas City, Kansas Police 235 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: Department to enter Aphilia's home and use the threat of 236 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: something happening to her sons against her, despite Kallupski's empty 237 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: promises to help them. Ronelle and Donnelle were convicted of 238 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: the double homicide in two thousand. Donnell took a plea 239 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: deal and was given two concurrent life sentences. Ronelle maintained 240 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: his innocence. His sentence will have him in prison until 241 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: twenty fifty. Kadiza was struck by how much Aphilia had 242 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: been holding on to alone. 243 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 5: You definitely got the sense of pain and almost like 244 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 5: a sense of urgency. You know, most victims, they seem 245 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: to have a sense of urgency. You can just feel 246 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: like this intensity for something to happen. 247 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: And the stories kept coming. Some people told Khadija that 248 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: they thought Gallupski was targeting their families. Others suspected that 249 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: he'd framed their relatives for crimes they hadn't committed. But 250 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: the majority of calls came from women who found themselves 251 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: embroiled in a pattern of abuse. Kadiza's phone kept ringing. 252 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: There were more and more stories about Detective Glupski. 253 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 5: How he stalked them, sitting on their porch, sitting in 254 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: front of their house, shining lights in their house in 255 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 5: the middle of the night, calling people and just hanging 256 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: up on them, following them on the road. Not just 257 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: one person following them, but multiple people following them, the 258 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 5: same kind of vehicles, same kind of cars mentioned in 259 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: these stories. 260 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: They had spent years siloed in silence, But as Kadiza 261 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: compiled the story she was hearing, she began to map 262 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: out the connections between Gallupski and families across the city, 263 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: women who'd been too scared to speak out until now. 264 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: The mcintires had spent years saying that Roger Glupski was 265 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: at the heart of the miscarriage of justice that had 266 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: decimated their family, but their investigation had opened the floodgates 267 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: to dozens of stories from women and families just like them, 268 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: people in the community whose lives had been destroyed by Gallupski. 269 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: It was enough to start building a case for Lamont's innocence. 270 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily say I thought I was prepared for 271 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: the kind of fight that we took on. I just 272 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: knew that it was important that we capitalized after that time, 273 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 5: and so I encouraged that community to fight back. 274 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: Nico Quinn was on board. Lamont's lawyers were locked in 275 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and there was evidence going back years. Now, all they 276 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: needed to do was convince a court of law. In 277 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, the city Kansas got a new district attorney, 278 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: their first ever black DA, Mark Dupree. He had grown 279 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: up in Casey, k and had known about Lamon's case 280 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: for years. 281 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 6: Lamont McIntyre when he went into custody, he was just 282 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 6: about three years I believe older than me. People talked 283 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 6: about it, and people on the street knew about it, 284 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 6: and my church was not far from the location where 285 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 6: all of this transpired. 286 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Dupre had direct connection to the community, and his role 287 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: is the city's first black DA felt like a sign 288 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: that things were changing. So Lamont's legal team did what 289 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: they could to make reinvestigating Lamon's case his top priority. 290 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: I was bombarded by the criminal defense attorneys who had 291 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 6: been working with Lamont, sending me tons of information that 292 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 6: the community was not aware of concerning his case and said, listen, 293 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 6: if you get in there, you have to look into this. 294 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: Dupre went to the prison to go and visit Lamont 295 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: and talk to him about his case. 296 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: I said, Danny came in. He said, what do you 297 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: want to say to me? I said, fout evidence. I'm 298 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: not gonna say anything. I'm not gonna beg you for 299 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: my life. I'm not gonna do anything I said. All 300 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: I want you to do is fault evidence. 301 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 6: It was at that point that I really began to 302 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 6: take a real strong legal look at this case, not 303 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 6: the you know, the system just you know, gets over 304 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 6: on people type of viewpoint, but more so of okay, 305 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: what's happening and what's going on. 306 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: When Da Dupre looked into how the investigation had been conducted, 307 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: he was surprised to see just how quickly things had unfolded. 308 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Back in nineteen ninety four, Lamont had been arrested just 309 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: hours after the shooting without any clear motive. 310 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 6: Ultimately, it becomes the fastest investigation concerning a homicide ever 311 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: to know, man, I think it took six hours, maybe 312 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: eight to ultimately have Lamont McIntyre locked up and ready 313 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 6: to be charged for a crime of double homicide. 314 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: To pre examine the holes in the police investigation in 315 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: Nico's claim that former DA Tara Moorehead had allegedly used 316 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: witness intimidation to build her case. 317 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 6: The facts ends up coming out that the story was 318 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 6: not as it was told. In fact, the evidence ends 319 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: up showing that this young lady tried to withdraw her testimony. 320 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: The evidence was damning building in Lamont's favor, but the 321 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: DA needed more. 322 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: I went to multiple prisons to speak to individuals who 323 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 6: were witnesses, individuals who were king pans back in the day, 324 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 6: Individuals who refused to talk back then, but was absolutely involved. 325 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: In October twenty seventeen, people from across Kansas City returned 326 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: to the Windye County District Court. Die Dupree walked in 327 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: equipped with his findings. The Mont's legal team laid out 328 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: all the flaws they found in the original investigation and 329 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: the evidence they gathered to try to prove his innocence. 330 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Another key piece of evidence was the testimony of Cecil Brooks, 331 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: he and a guy called Monster, where the drug dealers 332 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: Nico Quinn thought were responsible for her cousin Danielle's murder. 333 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Lamont's lawyers had found Cecil and questioned him about what 334 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: had really gone down in nineteen ninety four. Here's part 335 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: of what he had to say in a NAFFA David 336 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: read by an actor. 337 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 7: There was some conversation about Donnie still in dope. 338 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: By Donnie, he means Danielle Quinn Nko's cousin. 339 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 7: Some dope came up missing and he did not return 340 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 7: with what he stole. As a result, two junkies, Donnie 341 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: and the other Quinn got killed. 342 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: And here's the kicker. 343 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 7: Cecil alleges, the guy who got convicted for these murders 344 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 7: had nothing to do with it. 345 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: None of us had ever heard of him. 346 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 7: Monster did the murders, Monster got paid to do the murder, 347 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 7: the wrong guy got arrested. 348 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: Cecil's allegations about Monster were never proven in a court 349 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: of law, and Monster was never charged. After sitting in 350 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: court for two days and listening to evidence and testimonies 351 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: about how his case had been handled, Lamont went back 352 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: to his holding cell. All he could do was wait. 353 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: Normally I would sit there for forty five minutes, and 354 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: today break I sat there for that long, and then 355 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: something told me something was going on, but I don't 356 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: know what. So when I got back to the courtroom, 357 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: it was real quiet, and my lawyer was sitting across 358 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: from me. She was looking down and I asked her, 359 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: what's going on. She says, I don't know what's going on. 360 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there, Mark dupre get up. He walks 361 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: to the podium and he starts speaking. He says, I 362 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: want to introduce Exhibit A through z is evidence. 363 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: Dupree talked about the evidence Lamont's team had brought forward 364 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: and the information he found through his own investigation. The 365 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: trial was supposed to last around a week. 366 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 6: By day two, on top of all of my investigation, 367 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 6: it was very clear that the information they was providing 368 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 6: aligned with the information that I had saw. 369 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: Dupree had come to a conclusion about Lamont's conviction. 370 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 6: He did not received a fair trial, He was not 371 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 6: given adequate assistance and defense, along with the many other 372 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 6: issues that occurred. But that was the real basis of 373 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 6: the manifest injustice and this case. If you take away 374 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 6: all of the fake stuff, if you take away all 375 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: of the potential corruption, and you get down to the 376 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 6: nitty gritty, which is what I ultimately did. The bottom 377 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 6: line was that there was not enough facts or evidence 378 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 6: to prove that Lamont did this. 379 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: He didn't do his crime. The DA presents his final summary. 380 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 3: And all of a sudden I heard him say, and 381 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: I would like to drop all charges. They moved so fast, 382 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: and having so fast, I felt the room shake. Everybody 383 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: in the room just go crazy. I felt the eruption 384 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: of the roar of the room. 385 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: Lamont is finally free. He changes into regular clothes for 386 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: the first time in twenty three years and walks out 387 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: into the sun. 388 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: My mother. I saw her and I hugged her. 389 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: In that moment, Lamont felt numb, but that feeling would 390 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: eventually turn to relief. The last time he hugged his 391 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: mother Rose, he'd been a regular sixteen year old boy 392 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: trying to get through high school. At forty one, he's 393 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: a grown man who spent more than half of his 394 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: life behind bars. Now he's finally free to dream about 395 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: the life that lays ahead of him, But first he 396 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: has to come to terms with everything his teenage self 397 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: left behind. 398 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: I walked out to a bunch of strangers that I 399 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: had no connection with and my siblings. They look different, 400 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: my friends I was really close to. 401 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: But there was one stranger in the crowd who he 402 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: does recognize. 403 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: I saw the witnesses when I marked up to me, 404 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: and she looked sick. 405 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 8: Nico Quinn, I was nervous, and what played in my 406 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 8: head is this seventeen year old boy that I seen 407 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 8: when he was seventeen. I hadn't seen him since then, 408 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 8: so I had wrote a letter to Lamont, and it 409 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 8: was just telling him that the twenty three years that 410 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 8: he was incarcerated, so was I. 411 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 5: Mentally. 412 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 8: I had butterflies because I didn't know what his response 413 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 8: to me would be. 414 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: When they find each other outside court, all those worries 415 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: fade away. I was able to hug him and tell 416 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: him I was sorry, and. 417 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: I hugged her, and I whispered too, I forgive you. 418 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: I have been given her a long time ago, and 419 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: I felt so there was a young person that was 420 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: taking advantage of two I done. Had no harm it 421 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 3: will towards her, But I seen her. I hugged her, 422 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: and I whispered to, I forgive you. Being hateful and 423 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 3: spiteful and angry that other people will only hurt you. 424 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: I don't hold that energy inside of me because I'm 425 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: the only one being affected by it. 426 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: So I learned how to forgive people to free myself. 427 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Lamont is exonerated and Niko is freed of her guilt. 428 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: But this story is not over. From the outside, it 429 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: looked like the case of a seemingly corrupt assistant district 430 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: attorney and a crooked cop coming together to frame an 431 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: innocent man. But in looking for stories to help exonerate Lamont, 432 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Kadija had stumbled across something even darker, the decades worth 433 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: of abuse Detective Roger Glupski had inflicted on women across 434 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City. And she was now determined to get justice. 435 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: And so I was motivated to bring these women's story 436 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: to life on a national platform. 437 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Because the time had come to stand up and speak 438 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: out about Roger Gallupski. 439 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: You may think you have the power today, but as 440 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: God is my witness, the power is with the people, 441 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 5: and we're going to turn the tables on you. You're 442 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 5: coming out of here. 443 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: Coming up on the Girlfriends Untouchable. 444 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: He looks like the person who would cut up the 445 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: cat and put it in his street. 446 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: He does look hard, but he looks like somebody who would. 447 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: Get away with it. Roger just being Roger. You know, 448 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: that's kind of like a boye We'll be boy. 449 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 5: It's just speaks to how tough this Fike is all 450 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: the time. 451 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 9: And I'm like, Father, God, why is this soul? Why 452 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 9: am I the last one to talk to these women? 453 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 9: And then they're gone. 454 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: The Girlfriend's Untouchable is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. 455 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: For more from novel, visit novel dot Audio. The show 456 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: is narrated by me Niki Richardson. It was written and 457 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 1: produced by Rufaro Mazarura. The editor is Joe Wheeler. Our 458 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: assistant producer is Mohammed Ahmed. The researcher is Zaiyana Yusef. 459 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: Production management from Shuri Houston and Joe Savage. The fact 460 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: checker is Fendel Fulton. 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