Speaker 1: Hey, how's it going.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everyone says this, but I can't believe we're actually talking.
Speaker 1: Called it like sixty times.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, So I'm excited to talk to you too.
Speaker 2: What's your name, Dougs. I'm Nico, Nico, Yeah, like Nico Belick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go bowling, man, let's go bowling.
Speaker 2: Well, Nico, what's up man? Would you want to talk
Speaker 2: about today on the Gecko podcast?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, I I kind of wanted to, so I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about this for a while, Like I called in.
Speaker 1: I wanted to pay you a compliment. I know it's
Speaker 1: been kind of an emotional stream for you earlier today
Speaker 1: you had the other call, but like, oh sure, I
Speaker 1: just find you so like wise and empathetic, and I
Speaker 1: love the way that you help people through their problems
Speaker 1: without any judgment. It's it's just super cool and super chill.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, but I don't want to make it
Speaker 1: you know too uh crazy, I'm calling you from Portugal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here visiting. Uh. I've been here with my girlfriend
Speaker 1: for about a month and they're really really fallen in
Speaker 1: love with the place. And one of the coolest things
Speaker 1: that I've done since I've been here is I met
Speaker 1: a famous alpaca.
Speaker 2: You met a famous like.
Speaker 1: An I page. Yeah, if you've ever seen the movie
Speaker 1: Color Out of Space, the new one with Nick Cage,
Speaker 1: it's got a couple of alpacas in there, and those
Speaker 1: alpacas live in Portugal. And we were looking on, you know, online,
Speaker 1: and we found this lady with an alpaca farm and
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, you know, I've done some filming with them,
Speaker 1: with like Nick Cage, and she just casually dropped it.
Speaker 1: But obviously you can't just casually drop a connection to
Speaker 1: Nick Cage. So we asked about it and it was
Speaker 1: those out packets. It was pretty rad.
Speaker 2: I'm curious more about Portugal too, So what made you
Speaker 2: want to move? What made you come there? A month ago?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess two years ago. My girlfriend and I
Speaker 1: were talking and we're like, what would you do if
Speaker 1: you had all the money or just you know, the
Speaker 1: ability to do anything? And I said, I don't know,
Speaker 1: fuck it, let's just like just go to Portugal and
Speaker 1: live and work remotely and exist in Europe somewhere. And
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of talk about how Portugal is
Speaker 1: very welcoming with their immigration programs and stuff like this,
Speaker 1: and then we kind of looked at each other after
Speaker 1: I said it, We're like, why aren't we doing that?
Speaker 1: So we took a visit out here last year and
Speaker 1: really fell in love with with the place, and so
Speaker 1: decided this year, let's let's stay here for like a
Speaker 1: month and make sure that it's a realistic thing, like
Speaker 1: to live in another country that you don't speak the language.
Speaker 1: Really and it's just been awesome. Man, it's been so
Speaker 1: just chill and beautiful, and Portuguese people are so wonderful
Speaker 1: and welcoming. Yeah, it's it's been an awesome experience. So
Speaker 1: so we're kind of moving forward with that.
Speaker 2: Where are you guys? Are you in Lisbon?
Speaker 1: No, we did visit Lisbon and Lisbon was awesome, But
Speaker 1: we're in a town I get as a city actually
Speaker 1: about three hours by train north of Lisbon called a Vedro,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's it's a place that doesn't have
Speaker 1: a Starbucks, So like a Vedro, a the a r.
Speaker 2: I are a Vero Portugal. Oh wow, that looks that
Speaker 2: looks very colorful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super like charming and quaint and it's got
Speaker 1: like this beautiful old town but with a twenty minute
Speaker 1: walk to like a proper city where you can you know,
Speaker 1: like do city things and eat rabin and go to
Speaker 1: the Indian Spices store and stuff like this. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have they have everything. It's it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm I'm actually very interested to talk to
Speaker 2: you because I'm obsessed with the idea of like moving
Speaker 2: to a foreign country and like seeing what's up and
Speaker 2: you know, all that kind of stuff. And I'm always
Speaker 2: like googling around for places to go and ideas and stuff,
Speaker 2: and a Portugal keeps coming up as like an affordable
Speaker 2: expat location.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's been great as far as affordability. I
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, it's expensive to eat out every night.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I've been talking about going to
Speaker 1: airbnbs and stuff. It's it's not cheap, but we we've
Speaker 1: been cooking a little bit. Groceries are you know, reasonably priced.
Speaker 1: There's not a huge tipping culture, which is nice because
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you go out and the
Speaker 1: person that is waiting on you is like getting paid properly,
Speaker 1: and there's not a pressure to be like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I got to pay an extra on top of it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's nice from that aspect too.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you what do you guys do?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: So I work for a software company and I do
Speaker 1: like a little bit of consulting on the side. And
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, she's currently she's a medical assistant, but she's
Speaker 1: going to school for esthetician like skincare. So the plan
Speaker 1: is right, well, we'll open up, she'll open a business
Speaker 1: here once we get here, and wow, and I'll continue
Speaker 1: to work remotely. And yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 2: So you're so your girlfriend was So your girlfriend's a
Speaker 2: medical How does she work from home? If she's a
Speaker 2: medical assistant? I would assume she had to be like
Speaker 2: at a hospital or something.
Speaker 1: Well, she doesn't work from home. She works in a
Speaker 1: clinic in Portugal. No no, no, no, no, back home,
Speaker 1: back home. I live. Atlanta's home for me, for us.
Speaker 1: So she works in a clinic there, and uh, she's
Speaker 1: right here. She's really excited.
Speaker 7: Hi, get go, oh.
Speaker 2: Hi, what's your what's your what's your name?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 7: My name is Emily.
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up Emily?
Speaker 7: Everything is good. I'm so excited that we were able
Speaker 7: to talk to you. We've been listening to your podcast
Speaker 7: for a while and every time we're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: we should call. And it's so exciting to be talking
Speaker 7: to you.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's exciting to be talking to you too. I
Speaker 2: guess I'll ask you all the questions I was curious about.
Speaker 2: So you're you're you work at a clinic in and Okay,
Speaker 2: so you guys are both in your you are calling
Speaker 2: currently from every year rold Portugal, but you work as
Speaker 2: a as a medical assistant in Atlantas or are you
Speaker 2: like kind of taking a little sabbatical.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so we we don't live in the city city.
Speaker 7: We leave in Canton. I mean it's for you, five
Speaker 7: minutes up north of Atlanta. But you know, if I
Speaker 7: say Canton is kind of like, so we say Atlanta
Speaker 7: And yeah, I work in a clinic and it's a
Speaker 7: Navy clinic. So basically we give infusion of vitamins and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. Two people. And it's been a new job.
Speaker 7: Been very excited to learn new stuff.
Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool. And so you're gonna play you're
Speaker 2: gonna open a what what kind of business are you
Speaker 2: gonna open in in Portugal?
Speaker 7: So The plan is to do an instituition program in
Speaker 7: the United States and be able to bring that knowledge
Speaker 7: to Portugal, so that will open the door to have
Speaker 7: my own business doing facials and taking care of people's skin.
Speaker 2: Man, you guys are fing awesome. That's so cool.
Speaker 8: How did you?
Speaker 2: How did you? How did you? How did you two meet?
Speaker 7: So it's a very cute story. So I was working
Speaker 7: in a paintball field, working in a sorry.
Speaker 2: You said, a paintball field.
Speaker 7: I have paintball where they should have paint Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So we I was working there for a for a
Speaker 7: while and I started getting along with Nichol's parents, her mom,
Speaker 7: his mom. It's very cool. So we are friends and
Speaker 7: then I ended up a relationship and one day Nicol
Speaker 7: asked me if I want to go out for treatma,
Speaker 7: But then that didn't happen. So we went out for
Speaker 7: New Year's Year and he cooked a traditional meal from
Speaker 7: my country, which was very lovely, and we haven't separated.
Speaker 4: Sinton, that's so nice. Where are you originally from?
Speaker 7: I'm from Ecuador, Ecuador.
Speaker 2: Very cool, very nice. What what was I going to say?
Speaker 2: What was the meal that he cooked from Ecuador?
Speaker 7: It's called that meal. It's a pork and it's the
Speaker 7: way that it's roasted as well, and then it's life.
Speaker 7: And the way that we that at home is with
Speaker 7: like a sandwich form with a different type of bread
Speaker 7: and then we put something that is called corgio and
Speaker 7: basically onions, tomatoes, lemon and that on top with a
Speaker 7: spicy sauce and it's delicious.
Speaker 2: How how long you guys been together for.
Speaker 7: This genre is going to be three years?
Speaker 2: Very nice, very cool. Wow, paintball, paintball led to love.
Speaker 2: That's cool. I'm saying, that's very good man. I'm excited
Speaker 2: for you. Do you guys know anyone in uh in Avieria?
Speaker 2: Did you meet any crazy people? You got any like
Speaker 2: Kramer esque neighbors barging into your house?
Speaker 7: No, but everybody's very nice. We actually, in every place
Speaker 7: activity that we've been going, we tried to talk to
Speaker 7: people and see like what they do, how they got here,
Speaker 7: even my tourists, and it's been very nice to hear
Speaker 7: from them, and then we keep in contact. Actually, the
Speaker 7: last time that we came, we did a cooking glass
Speaker 7: and we got along with some other tourists and we
Speaker 7: still talk to them.
Speaker 2: Cool man, very cool.
Speaker 4: Are there any other, well, anything else that you.
Speaker 2: Have planned for for Portuguese life for the future, like
Speaker 2: any things you want to do or like other places
Speaker 2: you want to travel or any of that kind of shit.
Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, like Portugal is such an amazing little country
Speaker 7: because he has so many things to explore, like the south,
Speaker 7: it's so much forest and then you know, the bitches
Speaker 7: are so so nice, and you know, there are so
Speaker 7: many things that you can explore. And yeah, we're just
Speaker 7: no thinking about that yet because we've been like, you're
Speaker 7: not going to place to place to place and I
Speaker 7: don't know it, but yeah, definitely explore more the country
Speaker 7: and you know the other countries aults in Europe.
Speaker 2: That's cool. How old are you guys? If you don't
Speaker 2: want me asking, I'm curious what stage you're at in
Speaker 2: life that you're doing this.
Speaker 7: Son MIIKOI is thirty nine. He's going to be very
Speaker 7: nine next week actually, and I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Cool fucking cool man. That rocks. That rocks. Yes, man.
Speaker 2: Are you guys gonna have a kid?
Speaker 7: M So we are planning on not having kids. When
Speaker 7: we met, we talk about it and we are very
Speaker 7: definitely perspectives of having a kid you know, it's not
Speaker 7: just the apparent, it's so much that comes with it.
Speaker 7: And I don't know, I don't think we're ready for
Speaker 7: that faith on our lives yet or at all.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 7: Interesting, Yes, what he's saying, nothing can change, things can change. Okay,
Speaker 7: it's going to talk to you about this because it's
Speaker 7: being kind of like a long talk.
Speaker 5: So he's going to tell you his perspective.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of kids, right,
Speaker 8: It's a big decision to make, and then you know,
Speaker 8: it's a scary world, I feel like.
Speaker 1: So it's it's hard. It's hard to know where you're
Speaker 1: going to be at that time. My my sister's got kids.
Speaker 1: They're they're young, uh, and they're they're wonderful, they're beautiful kids.
Speaker 3: But like they're a lot man, Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: And it takes so much of yourself, Yeah, to be
Speaker 1: a parent, So it's hard to know. I think if
Speaker 1: you're if you're really ready for that, right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's unclear, leaning towards no, but you
Speaker 1: know this is a possibility.
Speaker 2: Well, it takes for telling me about your life. One
Speaker 2: of the reasons I like doing this part. I really
Speaker 2: mean this, I'm trying to figure out what I'm going
Speaker 2: to do how I'm like, what I want to do
Speaker 2: with my life, and so I like asking people invasive
Speaker 2: questions about what they're going to do with theirs. I'm
Speaker 2: just check, I'm just curious. I'm just like, because you
Speaker 2: there's no roadmap to how to do anything ever, so
Speaker 2: the only thing you can really do is like listen
Speaker 2: into how other people are navigating their lives and listen
Speaker 2: to your own brain and kind of, you know, take
Speaker 2: take in that. It's cool. I love it. I love
Speaker 2: what you guys are doing. I think it's so fucking
Speaker 2: cool to just uh, you know, get together with your
Speaker 2: partner and go to a go to a new place
Speaker 2: and try to you know, continue continue to expand and
Speaker 2: grow your fucking brain and life. I think that's really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's all about, you know, finding new
Speaker 1: life experiences and finding a community and contributing to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm becoming part of something, you know.
Speaker 4: So what's your name, Chris Nico?
Speaker 2: All right, Well this kind of is basically the same thing. Ye. Well,
Speaker 2: well Nico, thanks for thanks for chatting with me. Man,
Speaker 2: did you do you feel like you guys, got what
Speaker 2: you wanted out this phone call?
Speaker 1: I yeah, absolutely, I just I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: on the phone because you, like she said to me,
Speaker 1: listening to you all the time. So it's just cool
Speaker 1: to be a part of this community and this experience
Speaker 1: in another way. So thank you for taking our call.
Speaker 4: You guys have a good one. Man, You guys take care.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Then you girls please, oh man, this those two have
Speaker 2: such a nice, beautiful life. That's so great. You know,
Speaker 2: I really meant that this. I Uh, I ask invasive
Speaker 2: questions about things because well, one of the reasons I
Speaker 2: think people listen to this podcast is too, uh for
Speaker 2: the reason I was just describing is to like getting it.
Speaker 2: It's a little you can kind of you kind of
Speaker 2: only have your own brain and your own lived experience,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of nice to listen to what's going
Speaker 2: on in other people's brains and lives because it can
Speaker 2: help inform your own a little bit. Uh. I'd like
Speaker 2: to do that some someday. Go to like a well,
Speaker 2: I went to Portugal, I went to Lisbon. I did
Speaker 2: a show there a year ago. But like, uh, going
Speaker 2: to some random place to do a weird thing. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm phrasing it like that, but uh yeah,
Speaker 2: shout out to those people. They were cool. I was
Speaker 2: about to say, I'm sorry I forgot that guy's name,
Speaker 2: but I'm kind of not because like if you quiz
Speaker 2: like if you win ahead, here's my thing about names
Speaker 2: with and I've said this eight thousand times, what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say it again. If you were to like quiz
Speaker 2: me on like that guy's life or like that couple's life,
Speaker 2: if you were to like write down a list of
Speaker 2: if you were like quiz me on like specific things
Speaker 2: that maybe they said about themselves, I'd get at least
Speaker 2: fifty percent on that ques I don't remember what the
Speaker 2: guy said he did for a living, I would actually
Speaker 2: probably get a forty percent. Here's the thing. I remember
Speaker 2: the vibe of the conversation that I just had, whether
Speaker 2: or not. I remember that I liked those two. I
Speaker 2: remembered that I was inspired by them. I remember that
Speaker 2: I enjoyed talking to them, and I remember the general
Speaker 2: sentiment and vibe that they get off gave off. Even
Speaker 2: if I don't remember a name, uh but I do.
Speaker 2: His name was Nico, and I think her name was Emily.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it was Chris. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, what is your name? Walker Walker, Texas Ranger.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Not much?
Speaker 9: Wait is this Lyle?
Speaker 2: This is Lyle? This is me? Hi? Hello?
Speaker 4: What is who are you? You're a Walker?
Speaker 9: I'm Walker? But I'm dressed as Bob Belcher mom and
Speaker 9: my Halloween costume right now?
Speaker 2: Oh you do have what are your hellen plans?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Not much.
Speaker 9: Me and my girlfriend we don't. We don't like party,
Speaker 9: but we're going to like hand out candy to kids.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: That's nice. That's a sweet. Do people still trick or treat?
Speaker 2: Or is it has? Has the world just gotten too
Speaker 2: crazy for that?
Speaker 9: I don't we were talking about that. I don't think
Speaker 9: people trick or treat any more because of COVID. I
Speaker 9: think it's all like trunk or treat?
Speaker 2: Now, where are you going to hand out candidate? Kids?
Speaker 5: We live in.
Speaker 9: Vermont, so it's like a little small town called Bristol.
Speaker 2: That's cool? Is it? Like? Uh? I mean I grew
Speaker 2: up in the suburbs and there were like all these
Speaker 2: cul de sacs and it was you know, uh, do
Speaker 2: you are. What's the like landscape? Are you like in
Speaker 2: a little town? Is it a suburb?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's like a little mountain town. But we
Speaker 9: live on a flower farm right now.
Speaker 2: You live on a flower farm.
Speaker 9: I live on a flower farm. I work on the farm.
Speaker 9: Or season's almost over, but yeah, yeah, it's like this
Speaker 9: really dope house. We actually have to move in like
Speaker 9: a few weeks. So I'm actually we're really upset about it,
Speaker 9: but it'll be good in the long runs.
Speaker 2: Wait, tell me more about your life. You live on
Speaker 2: a flower farm in Vermont. Who who are you? How
Speaker 2: did you? How did you become that?
Speaker 9: I'm I'm the Texas Ranger. No, I'm just I grew
Speaker 9: up in South Carolina and I decided I wanted to
Speaker 9: be a sea instructor. So like three years ago, I
Speaker 9: moved out to Vermont and best decision I ever made.
Speaker 9: So now I spend my life doing seasonal work. I've
Speaker 9: been doing it.
Speaker 5: For like three years. Sorry, I just.
Speaker 9: Got a little nervous because I just realized some on the.
Speaker 5: Phone with you.
Speaker 9: But but yeah, no, I've been doing seasonal work for
Speaker 9: like three years. So I ski instruct in the winter,
Speaker 9: and I've been kind of like bouncing around from different
Speaker 9: jobs for like summer and spring and stuff.
Speaker 2: Cool. What's a flower house? Like, you guys make flowers
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 9: No, we like so we like grow the flowers, so
Speaker 9: we like work on the farm. But the house is
Speaker 9: just like on the property. So when he hired me,
Speaker 9: he was like, do you want to live on the property?
Speaker 9: And I was like, hell yeah. And it's it's a
Speaker 9: really cool howthing. It has curved walls. We call it
Speaker 9: like the boat or the beehive.
Speaker 2: It has curved walls.
Speaker 9: As curved walls looks like it looks like a beehive.
Speaker 5: It does look like a beehive.
Speaker 2: That's cool, man. How long you've been living there?
Speaker 9: Not long? Like seven months?
Speaker 2: Are gonna go?
Speaker 9: We're moving down to like southern Vermonts to teach ski
Speaker 9: So I teach skiing at this resort called Mount Snow
Speaker 9: and shout out Mount Snow. But yeah, so I've been
Speaker 9: teaching there for the last few years, so i want
Speaker 9: to move back down to go teach there. But I'm
Speaker 9: super bummed to leave the house. That's actually why I
Speaker 9: was trying to call you. It was like to debate
Speaker 9: if I should move or not.
Speaker 2: Well, why, yeah, why are you moving?
Speaker 9: Well, mainly just to ski instruct because it's like it's
Speaker 9: my favorite thing ever. It's like I'm so passionate about it.
Speaker 9: It's like someone who grew up in South Carolina. It
Speaker 9: was like always like a fun thing. My parents like
Speaker 9: would take me for spring break and stuff, and I
Speaker 9: just like fell in love with it. So I was
Speaker 9: always like, I want to ski instructure when I grow up, and.
Speaker 5: I've just stuck with it.
Speaker 9: I really love it. So I knew if I didn't
Speaker 9: do it, i'd be like super depressed this winter.
Speaker 2: And so you're moving to go do it?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so we got Yeah.
Speaker 4: That sounds you I don't have you don't it sounds
Speaker 4: like a great idea.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just talk, Yeah, I get. I'm so excited
Speaker 9: about It's just like you know how like moving is,
Speaker 9: and it's just it's so stressful. It's like, so I
Speaker 9: read a statistic, it's like the most stressful thing to
Speaker 9: do in your lifetime. And because young people move so much,
Speaker 9: we're like the most just out generation, which tracks I think.
Speaker 2: That's a fascinating thing. Is really is that the most
Speaker 2: stressful thing you do is moving.
Speaker 9: I think someone my best friend told me that, and
Speaker 9: she knows so much.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got.
Speaker 4: You've got your sources properly cited.
Speaker 2: That's good, exactly exactly. I mean, yeah, it's stressful to move.
Speaker 2: That's why I lived out of airbnbs for so long.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to fucking uh deal with it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and moving furniture is the worst. We keep moving
Speaker 9: into new into furnished places. Everywhere I've lived in the
Speaker 9: last like three years been pretty much fully furnished.
Speaker 2: How'd you meet your girlfriends?
Speaker 9: We met at the Mountain Mountain? Funny enough, you didn't
Speaker 9: ski though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what what was she doing there if she didn't ski?
Speaker 9: She was so we work in like the ski school,
Speaker 9: so she was kind of looking after the little kids
Speaker 9: and dealing with the parents, which is probably the worst
Speaker 9: job you can have in ski school.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, what how long? How long are you living
Speaker 2: in southern Vermont for? Uh?
Speaker 9: We have a year leaf, which is the first time
Speaker 9: I've ever signed a lease longer than eight months.
Speaker 2: Cool. You sound like you you're doing good. You sound
Speaker 2: like you've you've got a nice uh life. Just from
Speaker 2: my where I sit, it looks yeah, you have a
Speaker 2: nice life.
Speaker 9: I I like I like where I am?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel good every day? Do you feel peaceful?
Speaker 3: I know, you know.
Speaker 9: That's the thing is like I if I had, like
Speaker 9: you know, if I could go back and like tell
Speaker 9: younger me where I am, like they'd be so excited,
Speaker 9: you know, like this is awes. That's like the best
Speaker 9: situation I could have ever predicted for myself. You know,
Speaker 9: I'm living like cottage core lesbian dream right now, but
Speaker 9: like still I wake up and I'm like I'm not satisfied.
Speaker 9: It's like there's just like more I want to do.
Speaker 9: But it's I'm very happy with where I am. But
Speaker 9: I have a hard time livingly like you talk about
Speaker 9: it all the time. I have a really hard time
Speaker 9: being present and just trying to like live in the
Speaker 9: moment like I was at well, was listening to you
Speaker 9: today at work, and I was just trying to really
Speaker 9: like taking like oh, I'm cutting these merry golds right
Speaker 9: now and I'm like smelling them and like trying to
Speaker 9: take in every moment. But it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's so hard.
Speaker 4: What was I said? What was I saying? What was
Speaker 4: I saying?
Speaker 9: I don't remember. It was the new one, it was
Speaker 9: the one you put out yesterday.
Speaker 2: I was reading now, I like, I know I am
Speaker 2: saying this to be funny, but it is also true.
Speaker 2: I always forget that I have a podcast where I
Speaker 2: say stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is kind of wild. I'm trying to I've
Speaker 9: just been trying to start a podcast with my friends,
Speaker 9: and I realized talking is just like really hard when
Speaker 9: you're not when you have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking is hard. Talking is hard. I'm talking is hard.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about like, uh, I'm thinking about a life.
Speaker 2: I think about a version of life that feels really
Speaker 2: really really easy, and when I'm thinking about it, it
Speaker 2: involves a lot of not talking.
Speaker 9: Like yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like a lot of like being around large
Speaker 2: groups of people that you're like included in but you're
Speaker 2: not talking to any of them. That's kind of my dream.
Speaker 2: My dream is to constantly be in large rooms of
Speaker 2: people that like maybe that like I've organized together and
Speaker 2: who are all my friends and that I care about,
Speaker 2: and then just not talk to any of them, but
Speaker 2: just just be physically present and uh drunk and just
Speaker 2: not saying anything to anyone, just looking around and thinking.
Speaker 2: But you're still there, You're still with people, You're still
Speaker 2: you're socializing when you don't have to say a word.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a dream to me.
Speaker 9: That is the dream because like the vibe is already there.
Speaker 9: You don't have to like make it in it right.
Speaker 2: There's nothing. There is an Onion article that's so funny
Speaker 2: and it says something like ninety nine percent of conversations
Speaker 2: do not need to happen, And it's true.
Speaker 6: It's true most I saw that Onion article.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this knows of the times you don't have to
Speaker 2: It is hard to talk. It is hard to talk.
Speaker 2: You ever talk? You ever just talked one on one
Speaker 2: to one person? It's it's it's genuinely so exhausting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's what you do every day though, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: It's a little different. It's a little different because I
Speaker 2: do it. I'll say that it's well, it is exhausting,
Speaker 2: but it's it's a little different because I do it
Speaker 2: in the context of recording a podcast. And I think
Speaker 2: that that context, Like you ever like been at a
Speaker 2: party or something and you found yourself in a one
Speaker 2: on one conversation with someone, Yeah, surely the most exhausting,
Speaker 2: Like when you're at a party and you're like standing
Speaker 2: exact when you're at a party and you're like standing
Speaker 2: in a circle of people and you're not talking but yet.
Speaker 2: But if you're standing around at a party and you're
Speaker 2: in a circle of people and you're not talking, and
Speaker 2: you feel a little anxious that you haven't talked because
Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, maybe I'm like, you know, you
Speaker 2: just feel weird about that, that's bad. But if you're
Speaker 2: if you can get to a situation where you're in
Speaker 2: a group, you're standing at a party or at a thing,
Speaker 2: and you're in a group of people and you're not talking,
Speaker 2: but you feel comfortable, that's that's optimal. You know. It's
Speaker 2: like if you've ever been at a at a like
Speaker 2: a whatever and you're just you one on one, are
Speaker 2: talking to one person and you have to keep thinking
Speaker 2: of things to say, it's just so exhausting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we also can't listen.
Speaker 9: I find that I'm like, i feel like I'm like
Speaker 9: an entertainer sometimes at party, Like I love to talk
Speaker 9: to people because it's a lot, it's a lot. But
Speaker 9: like we were just we were just at a wedding
Speaker 9: and like, you know, it's like a ton of fucking people.
Speaker 9: My social battery has never been so in my entire life.
Speaker 5: But that was also the.
Speaker 9: Kind of vibe where like, if you don't want to
Speaker 9: say anything, you can just sit there and I don't
Speaker 9: feel uncomfortable. So it's like, but I feel like you
Speaker 9: have to know the people, Like these are people I've
Speaker 9: been in social situations with for like a while. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it too. I really actually do.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'm in the mood, you know, it is
Speaker 2: exhaust but this is always it depends on my mood.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm really to talk to people. I throw a
Speaker 2: little party at my house a little while ago one time,
Speaker 2: and uh, I was just I stood in the corner
Speaker 2: and I didn't talk to anyone for not the whole time,
Speaker 2: but for just like like five minutes. And it was
Speaker 2: the best that I felt because I'd gathered everyone into
Speaker 2: one room, but I didn't have to say, I didn't
Speaker 2: have to do anything. It was great.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you just provided the stays. That's kind of the
Speaker 9: best situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, like I do my live shows and my
Speaker 2: tours and stuff. I'm trying to figure out a way
Speaker 2: that I can, like how do I do a show?
Speaker 2: But I but not my whole show was about talking
Speaker 2: to people. I'm like, how do I do a version
Speaker 2: of it where I just don't actually have to say
Speaker 2: anything at all? Can like, can I gather a but
Speaker 2: can I gather a bunch of people to a theater
Speaker 2: and give somehow give them a good experience? But I
Speaker 2: but without having to actually do anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a riddle.
Speaker 9: I'm trying to think. Yeah, I feel like you could.
Speaker 9: I feel like, well, you could just show up to
Speaker 9: a place to sit there.
Speaker 2: I'm being I'm being like seventy I'm being like seventy
Speaker 2: percent facetious right now. Anyway, anyway, what's your name again,
Speaker 2: Walker Walker, Texas Ranger. Well, this was thanks for this
Speaker 2: was you know what? This was an easy conversation. This
Speaker 2: was this was this felt easy. So thanks for making
Speaker 2: this easy.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 9: That's all I ever wanted was a chill conversation with you.
Speaker 9: So thank you so much for kicking out. You took
Speaker 9: me completely off guard. I had just walked inside of
Speaker 9: my Bob Belcher costume, so I did not expect it.
Speaker 2: Well, enjoy uh, enjoy whatever you're gonna do with with
Speaker 2: uh with that Bob Belcher costume.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: God bless you.
Speaker 9: Walker, Thank you, bye, GAK, see you later.
Speaker 2: I don't have a Halloween costume. I only have I
Speaker 2: have my Gecko costume. But if I went out for
Speaker 2: Halloween in my Gecko costume, that'd be really lame. By
Speaker 2: the way I do like talking to people.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do what I do if
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: It is undenied. It is sometimes I'm like in such
Speaker 2: a I mean, you guys know, everyone knows what it's
Speaker 2: like to have different states of energy, and sometimes I,
Speaker 2: you know, I really have felt at times in which
Speaker 2: I was at the head and there's no energy to
Speaker 2: say anything ever to anyone, and then times where I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm a genius and I can talk to
Speaker 2: anyone who ever. And it kind of oscillates between those
Speaker 2: two things. I don't know if it's like a I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm fucking bitepolar or whatever the fuck,
Speaker 2: but like, uh, it's just I always just feel like
Speaker 2: I always isolate. I feel like I'm always oscillating between like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to talk to anyone ever again,
Speaker 2: and then like, oh, I think I can talk to anyone.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's a weird thing. Hello, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 7: Bro?
Speaker 2: Hey? What's up? Player? What's your name?
Speaker 3: Carter?
Speaker 2: Carter? What's going on? Carter? How's life?
Speaker 3: Honestly? Pretty fucking great? Man, Like, I've kind of done
Speaker 3: everything and now I'm just like, what the fuck else.
Speaker 6: Do I do?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: That's I would like, I'm so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2: You've done it? Do you mean for the day or
Speaker 2: just in life? You've done it all?
Speaker 3: Dude? Like I feel like I've pretty much done it all.
Speaker 3: Like I'm like thirty one, I've gotten my masters, I
Speaker 3: had like a good job, I got a got a
Speaker 3: wife and three dogs, and I mean I don't want kids.
Speaker 3: I play all the video games, I smoke all the weed,
Speaker 3: and like what else is there?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what I don't know what else is there?
Speaker 2: I don't know what what? Yeah? That's what do you think?
Speaker 2: The answer to that question is, well.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the only important thing for me
Speaker 3: right now is like playing video games, like I like
Speaker 3: fighting games like a shit ton. Yeah I can say
Speaker 3: shit right, yeah right.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can say whatever man, Yeah, well go ahead,
Speaker 2: can't keep going.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying I like I like play like
Speaker 3: a lot of fighting games, and I like, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get mastered Rank and six Fighter Street Fighter six,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you you know about Melee.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know about Rivals of Eve.
Speaker 3: That's a new Oh okay, well, I apologize. Shame on
Speaker 3: me for fucking assuming. But yeah no, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: like just griding those, and after I've hit masters on those,
Speaker 3: I'm just like, what the fuck use am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: So let's get back to your existential car. Are you
Speaker 2: actually having an existential crisis? You don't sound like you are.
Speaker 2: You sound like you're doing it.
Speaker 3: No, dude, Like I feel like I'm doing all right,
Speaker 3: But I feel like after like another year of just
Speaker 3: I don't know, New Game Plus, I'm gonna start freaking out.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you are kind of on New Game Plus.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I really do. Like my
Speaker 2: gut really please don't take anything I ever say seriously,
Speaker 2: but my gut is telling me that you could just
Speaker 2: play video games and be nice to your wife and
Speaker 2: dogs and then die and you did, you did, you
Speaker 2: would get an A plus on your homework. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Life is uh I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 2: something completely unrelated, but still I went. I was at
Speaker 2: meaw Wolf in uh Dallas, shout out to me Wolf,
Speaker 2: Meowolf rocks. And I found this little uh book or
Speaker 2: something that was in the exhibit, and it said something like,
Speaker 2: how can you ever be doing nothing when you are
Speaker 2: always being a being? And I was like, that makes
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: the bare minimum of existence is not particularly hard. You
Speaker 2: went above and beyond, you formed the what sounds I mean?
Speaker 2: You've told me nothing about the quality of your relationship,
Speaker 2: and I've asked you no questions about it, but I
Speaker 2: just blanketly assume that it's going well. You have three
Speaker 2: dogs who all sound all three of your dogs sound
Speaker 2: like they're not dead.
Speaker 3: They're all right under my feet, laying down, kind of chilling.
Speaker 2: So you don't have a kid, then you don't sound
Speaker 2: like you want one. You have food and your everyone
Speaker 2: everyone has food. Yeah, play video games and play video
Speaker 2: games and then die. I guess I don't know what else.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be Anything else you did outside of playing
Speaker 2: video games and dying would be just a bonus.
Speaker 3: All right, That's that's fair. I'm trying to play guitar,
Speaker 3: but I kind of gave up on that because I'm
Speaker 3: fucking horrible. I'd rather press buttons.
Speaker 2: Well, tell me more about your the crisis of New
Speaker 2: Game Plus?
Speaker 3: All right? So, I mean, I actually don't even know
Speaker 3: how old you are. I assume that you're like, what,
Speaker 3: late twenties, early thirties.
Speaker 2: I'm dying. I'm about to turn twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Oh god, Well, once you hit thirty, you know, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, it goes downhill. But no, like, dude, you
Speaker 3: hit like a certain like you know, threshold where you're
Speaker 3: kind of happy doing whatever. I've heard you're on like
Speaker 3: previous streams and whatnot. But have you ever felt like
Speaker 3: you're on New Game Plus?
Speaker 2: There's a lot I actually don't feel like I'm on
Speaker 2: New Game Plus. I feel like, uh, do you want to?
Speaker 2: You know how I actually feel? I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in Uh like you ever play you ever
Speaker 2: play Zelda? And like maybe you've beaten a couple dungeons
Speaker 2: and you're walking around the overworld map trying to find
Speaker 2: out what you're supposed to do next to progress the game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're just walking around High Rule trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what where are you supposed to go? What are
Speaker 2: you supposed to do?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: And eventually get frustrated and you look it up on
Speaker 2: the internet. That's kind of what my life feels like,
Speaker 2: except I can't just look it up on the internet
Speaker 2: because it's not linear. So I don't feel like I'm
Speaker 2: in New Game Plus.
Speaker 4: There's a lot that I still desire.
Speaker 2: I don't think I feel good enough regularly to consider
Speaker 2: myself on New Game Plus. There's aspects of my life
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know if continuing further down,
Speaker 2: there's aspects of my life where I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if approaching this the way that I've been approaching
Speaker 2: it uh historically is going to yield different results. But no,
Speaker 2: I definitely still uh I there's there's a lot that
Speaker 2: I want for all.
Speaker 3: Right, that's fair. I got another question, if you don't
Speaker 3: mind full of them at this point? Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 3: if you're not a New Game Plus, is there like
Speaker 3: a point where you're like gonna get like a new
Speaker 3: expansion pack? Because I kind of feel like I'm I'm
Speaker 3: ready for a new XPEC at this point.
Speaker 2: Am I gonna get a new expansion pack. I I'm
Speaker 2: you know, Uh, that's a that's a great question.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. I've been thinking about that.
Speaker 2: I think about that. I feel a little stuck. But uh,
Speaker 2: whether or not you get in the new expansion pack
Speaker 2: kind of has to I kind of if I if
Speaker 2: if I could, I'd put the game down for like
Speaker 2: a fucking second and then come back. That's kind of Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe that's being in a coma. Maybe that's being in
Speaker 2: a coma. Maybe that's maybe that's not being in all. No,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do I don't want to be
Speaker 2: in a clue. Maybe that's just like going for a walk.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what that is.
Speaker 4: But uh, can you.
Speaker 2: Say your original question again? It was a good one.
Speaker 2: Oh so expansion packs is Yeah, the expansion pack a
Speaker 2: lot of that. It feels like it's mental if you
Speaker 2: fully believe I think that you, I mean, you have
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 4: A lot of courage to add an expansion pack.
Speaker 2: You have to kind of you know, code it yourself.
Speaker 2: You have to make a random weird dude, do you
Speaker 2: have to do stuff?
Speaker 3: I got bored earlier in the year, so I started
Speaker 3: like running marathons and stuff, and like I've done like
Speaker 3: like like three half marathons and like like four ten k's,
Speaker 3: and I thought that that was going to be like
Speaker 3: my x PAC but it was just like really really
Speaker 3: bad DC with like no content, like no in game
Speaker 3: shot type shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So so that means that marathon running was bad.
Speaker 3: No, it's not that it's bad. It's just like not
Speaker 3: fulfilling as I don't know, getting stable in life, getting
Speaker 3: a good job, getting degrees, having like things that you love.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like at this point
Speaker 3: I could kind of like pass away and like I
Speaker 3: don't know, don't make a statue out of me for
Speaker 3: being mediocre at best.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Well, what's your wife think about life? Your life together?
Speaker 2: What's what's her Uh? Does she have similar Uh?
Speaker 3: She's like as a she's like as accomplished and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So like, you know, that's all good and dandy, but
Speaker 3: she's kind of happy, just like playing the last stage
Speaker 3: over and over again, whereas I'm like, this game's the
Speaker 3: game's this game's bonk bro, like we're the new Mechanics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. How do you reinvent your life? That's
Speaker 2: a very interesting question. How old did you say you
Speaker 2: were I'm thirty one. Brother, that's cool. Well, you said
Speaker 2: you wanted to play guitar, but then you gave that
Speaker 2: you didn't want to. What about traveling? Do you want
Speaker 2: to go anywhere? Dude?
Speaker 3: I want to travel, but I feel like if I travel,
Speaker 3: like things are just kind of you know, like when
Speaker 3: you leave your home and then you go somewhere else
Speaker 3: for a long time and you come back and home
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like home. I'm afraid of that.
Speaker 2: What do you mean by home doesn't feel like home?
Speaker 3: Okay? You know when you go somewhere and like you
Speaker 3: experience a bunch of stuff and you're like, oh, I
Speaker 3: want to experience this all the time, and then you
Speaker 3: know it's like kind of fake because you're gonna come
Speaker 3: back and then you're sleeping in your bed that you
Speaker 3: slept in before you left, and you're just like this,
Speaker 3: this isn't it man.
Speaker 2: You're you are thinking that you're saying that you might
Speaker 2: like where you go more than you like your home,
Speaker 2: and then the world will feel like your home instead
Speaker 2: of your home feeling like your home.
Speaker 3: I think it's the inverse of that, where I like
Speaker 3: leave and it shakes up like my fucking rhythm. And
Speaker 3: then I go back and then I'm like, all my
Speaker 3: rhythms all out of whack. This doesn't feel like it's
Speaker 3: how it should be. But then after a minute, it
Speaker 3: just kind of feels like how it should be.
Speaker 2: Aren't you Aren't you somewhat expressing a desire to have
Speaker 2: your rhythm shook? Isn't that kind of what you're talking about?
Speaker 9: This?
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing, dude.
Speaker 3: No way, I'm autistic. I like my rhythms, like you know,
Speaker 3: I keep my melody at a at a steady taste.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So so so you're good.
Speaker 3: Now I'm chilling, dude, Like I'm chilling, and that's like,
Speaker 3: what's worrying me? I feel like I shouldn't be chilling.
Speaker 2: That's it. Uh well, you know, I'm like, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's funny because there's a.
Speaker 2: Like desire is so uh like paradoxical in many ways
Speaker 2: because the I really do, I really do believe in
Speaker 2: that whole like desire is suffering thing. But then it's like,
Speaker 2: when you don't have desire, you start to desire desire, right,
Speaker 2: which is what you're kind of which is what I'm
Speaker 2: getting from you. Is that you desire desire, which in
Speaker 2: and but it's a paradox. Honestly, that's a desire you
Speaker 2: then possess what you want.
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy because I always tell people like, dude, like,
Speaker 3: imagine when you were a kid and like you you
Speaker 3: figured out like how to spell and like how to
Speaker 3: color within the lines, like that shit was fucking amazing,
Speaker 3: Like it was you felt accomplished. And now it's you're
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I got to work on time. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I fucking I fucking hate everything else. I don't know, dude,
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy, and it's not like I like I'm
Speaker 3: craving the struggle. I grew up and I grew up struggling,
Speaker 3: like I was a very poor trial, Like I couldn't
Speaker 3: really speak until I was, you know, twelve, a lot
Speaker 3: of speech therapy and shit, so like the struggle is real.
Speaker 3: It's just, uh, I don't know. I think everybody should struggle,
Speaker 3: Like all the.
Speaker 4: Time you said you think you think everyone should struggle.
Speaker 3: I think everyone should struggle, like all the time. I
Speaker 3: think like getting above and out of struggling is is
Speaker 3: the true accomplishment of life, Like you're always fighting if
Speaker 3: that means I want. Yeah, like, right now, I'm like
Speaker 3: level ninety nine and I'm just I'm just killing shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, uh, why don't you help other people who
Speaker 2: you feel like are struggling?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I thought about doing that, ironically enough, I
Speaker 3: like wanted to be a social worker when I was,
Speaker 3: you know, going to school, and I realized I don't
Speaker 3: like people. I like smoking weed, playing video games, and like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, figuring shit out, and I
Speaker 3: don't know. I guess I'm just still trying to figure
Speaker 3: the shit out. Brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah uh yeah, by the way, not liking people understood, understandable,
Speaker 2: stood shit. I yeah, dude, uh uh, you're good.
Speaker 4: Just play video games and then and then die respectably.
Speaker 3: That's okay, hundred truly, while I'm dying, I'll think of
Speaker 3: this conversation. And but before we get off the phone,
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: To just hold out before you say what you got
Speaker 2: to say. I hope that in the next I hope,
Speaker 2: first of all, you're thirty one. I hope you live.
Speaker 2: I hope you live at least forty more years. And
Speaker 2: I hope that forty years from now, forty fifty, I'll
Speaker 2: give you fifty. I hope you live at least fifty
Speaker 2: more years, and I hope fifty years from now that
Speaker 2: so many other things have happened in your life that
Speaker 2: are much more exciting than this conversation, such that you
Speaker 2: you don't you're not thinking about it when you die?
Speaker 3: What when else in my life? I'm going to talk
Speaker 3: to a freaking get go man, like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but there might have. There might be
Speaker 2: other things in your life that also happened that aren't
Speaker 2: just this.
Speaker 3: Nah, do not, dude. I've been to you for years now,
Speaker 3: I've like maybe tried to call her text in twice.
Speaker 3: And also I'm so confused why people say you sound
Speaker 3: different on the phone. You sound exactly the same. Like
Speaker 3: you sound exactly the same. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: I interrupted you as you were going to say something.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just gonna say, like, you know,
Speaker 3: to to you and the audience before you. You booted
Speaker 3: me off the lines of someone else who's more interesting
Speaker 3: can come and start talking, like, keep doing whatever the
Speaker 3: hell you want to do unless you're hurting somebody yourself,
Speaker 3: and then stop doing that immediately. That's it.
Speaker 2: What's your name again? Carter?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 2: Carter Carter. I remembered it. Carter, Carter, I'm really happy
Speaker 2: for you. I mean that I'm happy for you. I hope, uh,
Speaker 2: keep keep doing. I'm gonna try to borrow some of
Speaker 2: your energy.
Speaker 3: One one last question. If you're playing Rivals of Ether,
Speaker 3: who you playing?
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 2: I know what it is. I'm not. I don't. I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I can't name a single character. I only really play Melee.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's fair enough. I figured since you were
Speaker 3: a Melee head, you would have at least been, like,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe in the in the realm of Ether.
Speaker 2: I like the lion guy. I'll say that, I like
Speaker 2: the lion. I know there's a I like him. Take
Speaker 2: care of Carter?
Speaker 3: See your brother.
Speaker 2: New game plus? Is that the key? I guess that's
Speaker 2: the key the key he's I was. I wish, you know,
Speaker 2: I wish I would have actually talked to him more
Speaker 2: about that idea that he said that everyone should be
Speaker 2: struggling all the time, because I don't. I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think that's true or not.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm not. I'm not God. I
Speaker 2: wish I was. I actually I don't. I don't wish
Speaker 2: I was God. That's way too much. That's too much
Speaker 2: to be God. I'm perfectly okay. I think being mortal
Speaker 2: is a good gig. You get eighty if you're lucky,
Speaker 2: you get eighty years. If you're not, you get twelve,
Speaker 2: and you could put whatever you get what you get,
Speaker 2: and then then you die and then you're done. That's it.
Speaker 2: You work over if you're a mortal, if you're God.
Speaker 2: Oh it sounds like, oh my god, nothing sounds more
Speaker 2: exhausting than being God and being a mortal. I'd rather
Speaker 2: I'd rather go right now than than live forever. That's
Speaker 2: too that's too much. Still so lonely. I think dying
Speaker 2: would suck more if not everyone did it like it,
Speaker 2: like if you like, if you're listening to this and
Speaker 2: you're afraid of death, it's if you if you were
Speaker 2: the only one where that had happened to that would
Speaker 2: be really, that'd be really, that'd be horrifyingly sad if
Speaker 2: you were the only one. But you're not. That's your
Speaker 2: part of a bunch of stuff, and so so it's
Speaker 2: not it's not good to be I don't know. I
Speaker 2: haven't been talking for too long. I'm gonna end this. Hello.
Speaker 5: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 2: What is your name?
Speaker 5: Elena?
Speaker 2: Elena? What's up? Elena? How you doing? Dude?
Speaker 5: Nothing much, very chill today. I you know, opt on
Speaker 5: your stream because I thought you were streaming.
Speaker 2: Where are you? Sound like you're in a public place
Speaker 2: of some kind.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I am so sorry. I am in my
Speaker 5: living room.
Speaker 2: Very cool, very nice. Well Elena, what do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about today?
Speaker 5: Well? Actually I went to go see you in Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: and I was like, like I kind of had a
Speaker 5: little bit of a self realization based off of when
Speaker 5: your uh, your guys is prompts.
Speaker 2: One of our prompts.
Speaker 5: Yeah. On the guy was talking about how, you know,
Speaker 5: his life was perfect, and it was kind of like,
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Can I can? I can I give the listeners some
Speaker 2: context to what you're what you're about to talk about? Course,
Speaker 2: So I did a show in in Pittsburgh at the
Speaker 2: Bottle Rocket Comedy Club shout out the Battle Rocket Comedy Club.
Speaker 2: That place rocks, and this guy came on stage and
Speaker 2: he talked about how he's He basically was saying that
Speaker 2: he's like an alcoholic, but that his life is pretty great,
Speaker 2: and so he has no incentive to change. Would you
Speaker 2: say that's accurate?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was based. That's basically what he was saying.
Speaker 2: So tell me, tell me more about your experience.
Speaker 6: Uh listening to him talk, yeah, so I was like, damn,
Speaker 6: like I feel the I feel this way, like I
Speaker 6: only have one hinderance in my life, and.
Speaker 5: Besides that, I feel absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have good Uh. I was kind of
Speaker 2: amazed by that guy too. I was thinking about his
Speaker 2: situation because you know, he's he was definitely coming off
Speaker 2: like he was more satisfied with his life than I
Speaker 2: am with mine, and I didn't know, uh, And so
Speaker 2: I really questioned it. I was really thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I actually was thinking about that guy a lot as
Speaker 2: while I was on stage with him and a little
Speaker 2: bit after, because I was like, is if your life
Speaker 2: is truly But that's the question, is there are you?
Speaker 2: Is he Do you think he was maybe lying to
Speaker 2: himself or maybe there was something we didn't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but you know what if I don't actually
Speaker 2: want to talk about that guy because he's not here
Speaker 2: and you are, so tell me about your situation.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: So I'm currently in school and I work a part
Speaker 5: time job. But like I have one problem in my life,
Speaker 5: and that's that I have chronic pain.
Speaker 2: But your life is good other than that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean i'd say, like the problem with it though,
Speaker 5: is you know, it definitely is a mental toll. And
Speaker 5: so I guess that's what I wanted to talk to
Speaker 5: you about today, because like, you know, it feels great otherwise,
Speaker 5: but you know, brings it puts you down sometimes.
Speaker 2: I do have to say, I think having chronic pain
Speaker 2: is different from alcoholism because the chronic pain. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: would say, that's a lot, that's a lot. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: that guy was like, I drink seven beers a day
Speaker 2: and my life is perfect, so I'm never gonna stop.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit different from enjoy finding
Speaker 2: way of finding how to uh really enjoy life despite
Speaker 2: chronic pain. So I don't actually think those are remotely
Speaker 2: comparable situations. But I'm I'm impressed. I'm impressed. I'm impressed
Speaker 2: by it. Yeah, tell me more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I I've had a chronic pains for about
Speaker 5: the past six years, and like you know, it's getting
Speaker 5: to the point where I'm I'm a little snappy and
Speaker 5: I feel terrible, And just to like preface, I I
Speaker 5: did sign up to go to actual therapy, so but
Speaker 5: I thought i'd call and get your opinion on it.
Speaker 2: My opinion on what exactly.
Speaker 5: Onke? How how do you think you would manage something
Speaker 5: like this where you know it kind of hinders daily
Speaker 5: life and just how to stay mentally well with it?
Speaker 2: You know? But yeah, I used so sorry. I really wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't. I was I was talking on the
Speaker 2: last podcast. I was talking about that guy, Kendrick Norton Junior,
Speaker 2: who got his arm cut off like five years ago
Speaker 2: in a car accident. I don't know if you listened
Speaker 2: to that, but that guy got his car cut off
Speaker 2: in a car accident. And I was like looking at
Speaker 2: his Instagram recently and he was like smiling and enjoying life.
Speaker 2: And I don't have any advice. I have nothing for you,
Speaker 2: because if that happened to me, I would just uh,
Speaker 2: I would feel desolate. Right, Sorry, that's sorry. I don't know.
Speaker 2: How do you deal with chronic physic I don't know, dude.
Speaker 2: I had a cold last week and I almost fucking
Speaker 2: had to kill myself. I mean, what kind of pain
Speaker 2: do you have?
Speaker 5: So abdominal pain and it's just like kind of like
Speaker 5: a nice snapping you over and over again.
Speaker 2: Mm hm mm hmmm. Uh. I mean, well, I don't
Speaker 2: know why you want my opinion on it, because you're
Speaker 2: you open to this call by saying that you're doing
Speaker 2: great and enjoying life. So I mean I want your
Speaker 2: opinion on it. Well, how do you do it?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm pretty thankful for the things I have,
Speaker 5: so like, yeah, life is life is great. But then
Speaker 5: I feel so bad because I take, I take it's
Speaker 5: it's more frustrating than anything to have the paint. So
Speaker 5: I feel bad because like I get moody and snappy,
Speaker 5: and my boyfriend has to deal with it and my friends,
Speaker 5: so it's it's, you know, it's hard because I'm a
Speaker 5: little bit of a I get moody, I guess so.
Speaker 2: But so other than that, I mean, you're doing I
Speaker 2: mean you have friends and you have a boyfriend, and
Speaker 2: you're you're you're you're chilling withstanding it. Yeah that's pretty good. Uh,
Speaker 2: I'm impressed. I'm impressed by that. Now, if I have
Speaker 2: a little I have a little pimple on my nose,
Speaker 2: and I'm about ready to just cut the whole fucking
Speaker 2: thing off. So uh, yeah, I have. I have a
Speaker 2: little pimple on my nose, and it's ruined my entire life.
Speaker 2: I have like I have like big i have like
Speaker 2: life plans that I want to get to and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm waiting until the pimple on my nose is gone
Speaker 2: for me. That's how much of a of a pussy
Speaker 2: I am when it comes to like dealing with any
Speaker 2: kind of pain or discomfort or sickness. So I applaud
Speaker 2: you on this.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Yeah, no, because, like I think, one
Speaker 5: of the biggest factors to mental problems is actually another
Speaker 5: thing from your show is the one guy was talking
Speaker 5: about having a Oh my gosh, what's what's the male
Speaker 5: opposite of a shysterectomy?
Speaker 2: And and does scopy and and no no, no, all
Speaker 2: that like.
Speaker 5: No, no, the yeah vasectomy ohect me.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay. So also at that Pittsburgh show, somebody
Speaker 2: came on stage to talk about having a vasectomy. Yes, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: And so you know, I'm currently in college and I've
Speaker 5: gone to all these doctors since I had the problems,
Speaker 5: and I was like, dude, if it's because it stems
Speaker 5: from my uterus? And so I said, if you have
Speaker 5: to take this out, because what I have is chronic,
Speaker 5: If you have to take this out, I am one
Speaker 5: hundred percent willing. And unlike male doctors, they say, oh no,
Speaker 5: like you can't really do anything, like you're too young,
Speaker 5: you might change your mind, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So wait, so male doctors are more likely to take
Speaker 2: out the uterus than the female doctors. No, like.
Speaker 5: The women are less likely to be able to have
Speaker 5: a permanent change to their like reproductive organs than males.
Speaker 5: Like males are more likely to get the yes women,
Speaker 5: it's like, no, you your husband might want kids. Stuff
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: Is so art.
Speaker 4: Have you tried to get your uterus removed?
Speaker 5: Yes? I haven't. They've all told me and no, you're
Speaker 5: too young, you're too young.
Speaker 2: How old are you?
Speaker 5: I am nineteen?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Is did the doctors tell you that if you got
Speaker 2: it removed, we get rid of the pain.
Speaker 5: They said that it could help. And at this point
Speaker 5: I'm like, I will do anything.
Speaker 2: Well, she that's cool. Do do go do do go
Speaker 2: see a doctor and whatever the doctor says, that's probably cool.
Speaker 2: Right do you take like do you take like meds
Speaker 2: for it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I do. The problem with that is, like I am
Speaker 5: very against because I understand opioid Egyptian. So it's not
Speaker 5: like the stuff they give me isn't very strong and
Speaker 5: it doesn't really help.
Speaker 2: Mm hm m hmm. Well you can. I mean, uh, well,
Speaker 2: this is good, this is uh again. I'm impressed that
Speaker 2: you're able to withstand any any pain of any kind.
Speaker 2: And unlike the guy who came on stage and then
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh show, you don't have to drink seven beers
Speaker 2: to do it, So you know, good on, good on you,
Speaker 2: good on you. What's your what's your name again?
Speaker 5: Elena?
Speaker 2: Elena? Well, Alena, is there anything else that you want
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer or anything
Speaker 2: at all before we go?
Speaker 5: If the dear guy from Pittsburgh is watching, he did
Speaker 5: a great job.
Speaker 2: He did do a great job. He did do a
Speaker 2: great job. Well, thank you very much for calling, Lena.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you for answering.
Speaker 2: Have a good one you too. If it'll, honestly, dude,
Speaker 2: if it'll stop this, if it'll get rid of this
Speaker 2: pimple on my nose, I'll I will also get rid
Speaker 2: of my uterus. I don't know if anyone knows a
Speaker 2: doctor that can that will be willing to let me,
Speaker 2: that will be willing to remove my uterists to stop
Speaker 2: my nose pimple. By the way, for reference the deer
Speaker 2: guy that she was referring to, I'll tell this story.
Speaker 2: There was a guy in the comments section of my
Speaker 2: YouTube channel shout out my boy Leon. This guy comments
Speaker 2: on one of my YouTube videos and he goes he
Speaker 2: says something like, hey man, I started doing stand up
Speaker 2: comedy very recently, and I wanted and I started doing
Speaker 2: this bit where I dress up like a deer and
Speaker 2: I tell deer jokes. And I saw you coming to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: and I was wondering if I could open for you.
Speaker 2: And I didn't look at any of his YouTube videos beforehand.
Speaker 2: I was just like, I was like zero vetting. I responded,
Speaker 2: and I was like, absolutely, of course, of course, random
Speaker 2: person from my YouTube comments, you can absolutely open for
Speaker 2: my show in Pittsburgh. And he came and uh, he
Speaker 2: did this show and he was at He was actually
Speaker 2: really fucking good. He was really fucking good. He honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this like I really mean this. I
Speaker 2: think he did better than I did. I genuinely like
Speaker 2: like when just crowd reaction, he did better than I did.
Speaker 2: So we are we are one for one on putting
Speaker 2: our faith in people. From the YouTube comments, uh so,
Speaker 2: shout out Leon, shout out the deer guy.
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