1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,960
Speaker 1: Hey, how's it going.

2
00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,680
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? How you doing?

3
00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,039
Speaker 1: I'm doing great.

4
00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

5
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,600
Speaker 1: Everyone says this, but I can't believe we're actually talking.

6
00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,080
Speaker 1: Called it like sixty times.

7
00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm excited, So I'm excited to talk to you too.

8
00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,800
Speaker 2: What's your name, Dougs. I'm Nico, Nico, Yeah, like Nico Belick.

9
00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:22,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

10
00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go bowling, man, let's go bowling.

11
00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,720
Speaker 2: Well, Nico, what's up man? Would you want to talk

12
00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,480
Speaker 2: about today on the Gecko podcast?

13
00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:33,920
Speaker 5: Uh?

14
00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,680
Speaker 1: Well, I I kind of wanted to, so I've been

15
00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,800
Speaker 1: thinking about this for a while, Like I called in.

16
00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to pay you a compliment. I know it's

17
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,240
Speaker 1: been kind of an emotional stream for you earlier today

18
00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,680
Speaker 1: you had the other call, but like, oh sure, I

19
00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,760
Speaker 1: just find you so like wise and empathetic, and I

20
00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,880
Speaker 1: love the way that you help people through their problems

21
00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,000
Speaker 1: without any judgment. It's it's just super cool and super chill.

22
00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

23
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, but I don't want to make it

24
00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:10,320
Speaker 1: you know too uh crazy, I'm calling you from Portugal. Yeah,

25
00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm here visiting. Uh. I've been here with my girlfriend

26
00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:19,240
Speaker 1: for about a month and they're really really fallen in

27
00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,399
Speaker 1: love with the place. And one of the coolest things

28
00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,399
Speaker 1: that I've done since I've been here is I met

29
00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,119
Speaker 1: a famous alpaca.

30
00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,840
Speaker 2: You met a famous like.

31
00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:37,959
Speaker 1: An I page. Yeah, if you've ever seen the movie

32
00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Color Out of Space, the new one with Nick Cage,

33
00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520
Speaker 1: it's got a couple of alpacas in there, and those

34
00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:52,080
Speaker 1: alpacas live in Portugal. And we were looking on, you know, online,

35
00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,120
Speaker 1: and we found this lady with an alpaca farm and

36
00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,320
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, you know, I've done some filming with them,

37
00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,960
Speaker 1: with like Nick Cage, and she just casually dropped it.

38
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,680
Speaker 1: But obviously you can't just casually drop a connection to

39
00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,000
Speaker 1: Nick Cage. So we asked about it and it was

40
00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,680
Speaker 1: those out packets. It was pretty rad.

41
00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm curious more about Portugal too, So what made you

42
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,360
Speaker 2: want to move? What made you come there? A month ago?

43
00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,240
Speaker 1: Well, I guess two years ago. My girlfriend and I

44
00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,320
Speaker 1: were talking and we're like, what would you do if

45
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000
Speaker 1: you had all the money or just you know, the

46
00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,679
Speaker 1: ability to do anything? And I said, I don't know,

47
00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,200
Speaker 1: fuck it, let's just like just go to Portugal and

48
00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,320
Speaker 1: live and work remotely and exist in Europe somewhere. And

49
00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,040
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of talk about how Portugal is

50
00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,639
Speaker 1: very welcoming with their immigration programs and stuff like this,

51
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,919
Speaker 1: and then we kind of looked at each other after

52
00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,960
Speaker 1: I said it, We're like, why aren't we doing that?

53
00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,600
Speaker 1: So we took a visit out here last year and

54
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,640
Speaker 1: really fell in love with with the place, and so

55
00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,200
Speaker 1: decided this year, let's let's stay here for like a

56
00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,600
Speaker 1: month and make sure that it's a realistic thing, like

57
00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,320
Speaker 1: to live in another country that you don't speak the language.

58
00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,920
Speaker 1: Really and it's just been awesome. Man, it's been so

59
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,840
Speaker 1: just chill and beautiful, and Portuguese people are so wonderful

60
00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,000
Speaker 1: and welcoming. Yeah, it's it's been an awesome experience. So

61
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,480
Speaker 1: so we're kind of moving forward with that.

62
00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,360
Speaker 2: Where are you guys? Are you in Lisbon?

63
00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,520
Speaker 1: No, we did visit Lisbon and Lisbon was awesome, But

64
00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,040
Speaker 1: we're in a town I get as a city actually

65
00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,280
Speaker 1: about three hours by train north of Lisbon called a Vedro,

66
00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,160
Speaker 1: and it's a it's it's a place that doesn't have

67
00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 1: a Starbucks, So like a Vedro, a the a r.

68
00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,720
Speaker 2: I are a Vero Portugal. Oh wow, that looks that

69
00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,840
Speaker 2: looks very colorful.

70
00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super like charming and quaint and it's got

71
00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,719
Speaker 1: like this beautiful old town but with a twenty minute

72
00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,359
Speaker 1: walk to like a proper city where you can you know,

73
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,880
Speaker 1: like do city things and eat rabin and go to

74
00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,600
Speaker 1: the Indian Spices store and stuff like this. I mean,

75
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960
Speaker 1: they have they have everything. It's it's wonderful.

76
00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm I'm actually very interested to talk to

77
00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,320
Speaker 2: you because I'm obsessed with the idea of like moving

78
00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,240
Speaker 2: to a foreign country and like seeing what's up and

79
00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,320
Speaker 2: you know, all that kind of stuff. And I'm always

80
00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,359
Speaker 2: like googling around for places to go and ideas and stuff,

81
00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,800
Speaker 2: and a Portugal keeps coming up as like an affordable

82
00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,000
Speaker 2: expat location.

83
00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's been great as far as affordability. I

84
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,520
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, it's expensive to eat out every night.

85
00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I've been talking about going to

86
00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,599
Speaker 1: airbnbs and stuff. It's it's not cheap, but we we've

87
00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,919
Speaker 1: been cooking a little bit. Groceries are you know, reasonably priced.

88
00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,560
Speaker 1: There's not a huge tipping culture, which is nice because

89
00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you go out and the

90
00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,120
Speaker 1: person that is waiting on you is like getting paid properly,

91
00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,240
Speaker 1: and there's not a pressure to be like, oh shit,

92
00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,040
Speaker 1: I got to pay an extra on top of it.

93
00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:30,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

94
00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,000
Speaker 1: So it's a it's nice from that aspect too.

95
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, what do you what do you guys do?

96
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,280
Speaker 6: Uh?

97
00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,880
Speaker 1: So I work for a software company and I do

98
00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,440
Speaker 1: like a little bit of consulting on the side. And

99
00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,800
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, she's currently she's a medical assistant, but she's

100
00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:58,440
Speaker 1: going to school for esthetician like skincare. So the plan

101
00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,040
Speaker 1: is right, well, we'll open up, she'll open a business

102
00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,960
Speaker 1: here once we get here, and wow, and I'll continue

103
00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,960
Speaker 1: to work remotely. And yeah, holy shit.

104
00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,960
Speaker 2: So you're so your girlfriend was So your girlfriend's a

105
00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,560
Speaker 2: medical How does she work from home? If she's a

106
00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,520
Speaker 2: medical assistant? I would assume she had to be like

107
00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,760
Speaker 2: at a hospital or something.

108
00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, she doesn't work from home. She works in a

109
00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,080
Speaker 1: clinic in Portugal. No no, no, no, no, back home,

110
00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,200
Speaker 1: back home. I live. Atlanta's home for me, for us.

111
00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,360
Speaker 1: So she works in a clinic there, and uh, she's

112
00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,600
Speaker 1: right here. She's really excited.

113
00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,760
Speaker 7: Hi, get go, oh.

114
00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,320
Speaker 2: Hi, what's your what's your what's your name?

115
00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:41,080
Speaker 5: Hi?

116
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,880
Speaker 7: My name is Emily.

117
00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,599
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up Emily?

118
00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,039
Speaker 7: Everything is good. I'm so excited that we were able

119
00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,440
Speaker 7: to talk to you. We've been listening to your podcast

120
00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,159
Speaker 7: for a while and every time we're like, oh my gosh,

121
00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,440
Speaker 7: we should call. And it's so exciting to be talking

122
00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:58,880
Speaker 7: to you.

123
00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,479
Speaker 2: Oh, it's exciting to be talking to you too. I

124
00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,440
Speaker 2: guess I'll ask you all the questions I was curious about.

125
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,960
Speaker 2: So you're you're you work at a clinic in and Okay,

126
00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,800
Speaker 2: so you guys are both in your you are calling

127
00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,520
Speaker 2: currently from every year rold Portugal, but you work as

128
00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,200
Speaker 2: a as a medical assistant in Atlantas or are you

129
00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,640
Speaker 2: like kind of taking a little sabbatical.

130
00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,360
Speaker 7: So yeah, so we we don't live in the city city.

131
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,960
Speaker 7: We leave in Canton. I mean it's for you, five

132
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,040
Speaker 7: minutes up north of Atlanta. But you know, if I

133
00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,640
Speaker 7: say Canton is kind of like, so we say Atlanta

134
00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920
Speaker 7: And yeah, I work in a clinic and it's a

135
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 7: Navy clinic. So basically we give infusion of vitamins and

136
00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,240
Speaker 7: stuff like that. Two people. And it's been a new job.

137
00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,320
Speaker 7: Been very excited to learn new stuff.

138
00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480
Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool. And so you're gonna play you're

139
00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,160
Speaker 2: gonna open a what what kind of business are you

140
00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,760
Speaker 2: gonna open in in Portugal?

141
00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,920
Speaker 7: So The plan is to do an instituition program in

142
00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,280
Speaker 7: the United States and be able to bring that knowledge

143
00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,160
Speaker 7: to Portugal, so that will open the door to have

144
00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,920
Speaker 7: my own business doing facials and taking care of people's skin.

145
00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,360
Speaker 2: Man, you guys are fing awesome. That's so cool.

146
00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:22,320
Speaker 8: How did you?

147
00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,960
Speaker 2: How did you? How did you? How did you two meet?

148
00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,560
Speaker 7: So it's a very cute story. So I was working

149
00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,400
Speaker 7: in a paintball field, working in a sorry.

150
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,400
Speaker 2: You said, a paintball field.

151
00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,440
Speaker 7: I have paintball where they should have paint Yeah. Yeah,

152
00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,560
Speaker 7: So we I was working there for a for a

153
00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,520
Speaker 7: while and I started getting along with Nichol's parents, her mom,

154
00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,920
Speaker 7: his mom. It's very cool. So we are friends and

155
00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,280
Speaker 7: then I ended up a relationship and one day Nicol

156
00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,600
Speaker 7: asked me if I want to go out for treatma,

157
00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,520
Speaker 7: But then that didn't happen. So we went out for

158
00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,760
Speaker 7: New Year's Year and he cooked a traditional meal from

159
00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,199
Speaker 7: my country, which was very lovely, and we haven't separated.

160
00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,319
Speaker 4: Sinton, that's so nice. Where are you originally from?

161
00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,400
Speaker 7: I'm from Ecuador, Ecuador.

162
00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,199
Speaker 2: Very cool, very nice. What what was I going to say?

163
00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,080
Speaker 2: What was the meal that he cooked from Ecuador?

164
00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,480
Speaker 7: It's called that meal. It's a pork and it's the

165
00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,199
Speaker 7: way that it's roasted as well, and then it's life.

166
00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,480
Speaker 7: And the way that we that at home is with

167
00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,120
Speaker 7: like a sandwich form with a different type of bread

168
00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000
Speaker 7: and then we put something that is called corgio and

169
00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,079
Speaker 7: basically onions, tomatoes, lemon and that on top with a

170
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,800
Speaker 7: spicy sauce and it's delicious.

171
00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,719
Speaker 2: How how long you guys been together for.

172
00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,200
Speaker 7: This genre is going to be three years?

173
00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:07,600
Speaker 2: Very nice, very cool. Wow, paintball, paintball led to love.

174
00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:14,400
Speaker 2: That's cool. I'm saying, that's very good man. I'm excited

175
00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,800
Speaker 2: for you. Do you guys know anyone in uh in Avieria?

176
00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,640
Speaker 2: Did you meet any crazy people? You got any like

177
00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,320
Speaker 2: Kramer esque neighbors barging into your house?

178
00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,960
Speaker 7: No, but everybody's very nice. We actually, in every place

179
00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,680
Speaker 7: activity that we've been going, we tried to talk to

180
00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,960
Speaker 7: people and see like what they do, how they got here,

181
00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,480
Speaker 7: even my tourists, and it's been very nice to hear

182
00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,160
Speaker 7: from them, and then we keep in contact. Actually, the

183
00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,920
Speaker 7: last time that we came, we did a cooking glass

184
00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,040
Speaker 7: and we got along with some other tourists and we

185
00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,360
Speaker 7: still talk to them.

186
00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,079
Speaker 2: Cool man, very cool.

187
00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,719
Speaker 4: Are there any other, well, anything else that you.

188
00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,120
Speaker 2: Have planned for for Portuguese life for the future, like

189
00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,280
Speaker 2: any things you want to do or like other places

190
00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,760
Speaker 2: you want to travel or any of that kind of shit.

191
00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,880
Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, like Portugal is such an amazing little country

192
00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,199
Speaker 7: because he has so many things to explore, like the south,

193
00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,040
Speaker 7: it's so much forest and then you know, the bitches

194
00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,880
Speaker 7: are so so nice, and you know, there are so

195
00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,840
Speaker 7: many things that you can explore. And yeah, we're just

196
00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,679
Speaker 7: no thinking about that yet because we've been like, you're

197
00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,520
Speaker 7: not going to place to place to place and I

198
00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,160
Speaker 7: don't know it, but yeah, definitely explore more the country

199
00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,480
Speaker 7: and you know the other countries aults in Europe.

200
00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,079
Speaker 2: That's cool. How old are you guys? If you don't

201
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,000
Speaker 2: want me asking, I'm curious what stage you're at in

202
00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 2: life that you're doing this.

203
00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,160
Speaker 7: Son MIIKOI is thirty nine. He's going to be very

204
00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,000
Speaker 7: nine next week actually, and I'm twenty eight.

205
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,840
Speaker 2: Cool fucking cool man. That rocks. That rocks. Yes, man.

206
00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,960
Speaker 2: Are you guys gonna have a kid?

207
00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 7: M So we are planning on not having kids. When

208
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,360
Speaker 7: we met, we talk about it and we are very

209
00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,760
Speaker 7: definitely perspectives of having a kid you know, it's not

210
00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,719
Speaker 7: just the apparent, it's so much that comes with it.

211
00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,760
Speaker 7: And I don't know, I don't think we're ready for

212
00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,400
Speaker 7: that faith on our lives yet or at all.

213
00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,079
Speaker 2: Interesting.

214
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:33,040
Speaker 7: Interesting, Yes, what he's saying, nothing can change, things can change. Okay,

215
00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,080
Speaker 7: it's going to talk to you about this because it's

216
00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,640
Speaker 7: being kind of like a long talk.

217
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,000
Speaker 5: So he's going to tell you his perspective.

218
00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,240
Speaker 2: Cool.

219
00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:52,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of kids, right,

220
00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,800
Speaker 8: It's a big decision to make, and then you know,

221
00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,040
Speaker 8: it's a scary world, I feel like.

222
00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,760
Speaker 1: So it's it's hard. It's hard to know where you're

223
00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,840
Speaker 1: going to be at that time. My my sister's got kids.

224
00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,560
Speaker 1: They're they're young, uh, and they're they're wonderful, they're beautiful kids.

225
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,360
Speaker 3: But like they're a lot man, Yeah, dude.

226
00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,200
Speaker 1: And it takes so much of yourself, Yeah, to be

227
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,880
Speaker 1: a parent, So it's hard to know. I think if

228
00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,960
Speaker 1: you're if you're really ready for that, right. So yeah,

229
00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,360
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's unclear, leaning towards no, but you

230
00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,680
Speaker 1: know this is a possibility.

231
00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, it takes for telling me about your life. One

232
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,200
Speaker 2: of the reasons I like doing this part. I really

233
00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360
Speaker 2: mean this, I'm trying to figure out what I'm going

234
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,480
Speaker 2: to do how I'm like, what I want to do

235
00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,160
Speaker 2: with my life, and so I like asking people invasive

236
00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,320
Speaker 2: questions about what they're going to do with theirs. I'm

237
00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,960
Speaker 2: just check, I'm just curious. I'm just like, because you

238
00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,959
Speaker 2: there's no roadmap to how to do anything ever, so

239
00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,000
Speaker 2: the only thing you can really do is like listen

240
00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,920
Speaker 2: into how other people are navigating their lives and listen

241
00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,480
Speaker 2: to your own brain and kind of, you know, take

242
00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,080
Speaker 2: take in that. It's cool. I love it. I love

243
00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,720
Speaker 2: what you guys are doing. I think it's so fucking

244
00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:16,080
Speaker 2: cool to just uh, you know, get together with your

245
00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,840
Speaker 2: partner and go to a go to a new place

246
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,040
Speaker 2: and try to you know, continue continue to expand and

247
00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,720
Speaker 2: grow your fucking brain and life. I think that's really cool.

248
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's all about, you know, finding new

249
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:40,600
Speaker 1: life experiences and finding a community and contributing to it. Yeah.

250
00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm becoming part of something, you know.

251
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,240
Speaker 4: So what's your name, Chris Nico?

252
00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,560
Speaker 2: All right, Well this kind of is basically the same thing. Ye. Well,

253
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,360
Speaker 2: well Nico, thanks for thanks for chatting with me. Man,

254
00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 2: did you do you feel like you guys, got what

255
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,280
Speaker 2: you wanted out this phone call?

256
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,000
Speaker 1: I yeah, absolutely, I just I just wanted to be

257
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,880
Speaker 1: on the phone because you, like she said to me,

258
00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,280
Speaker 1: listening to you all the time. So it's just cool

259
00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,480
Speaker 1: to be a part of this community and this experience

260
00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 1: in another way. So thank you for taking our call.

261
00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,520
Speaker 4: You guys have a good one. Man, You guys take care.

262
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:20,880
Speaker 1: Thanks.

263
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:28,000
Speaker 2: Then you girls please, oh man, this those two have

264
00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,280
Speaker 2: such a nice, beautiful life. That's so great. You know,

265
00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,080
Speaker 2: I really meant that this. I Uh, I ask invasive

266
00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,480
Speaker 2: questions about things because well, one of the reasons I

267
00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,040
Speaker 2: think people listen to this podcast is too, uh for

268
00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,760
Speaker 2: the reason I was just describing is to like getting it.

269
00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,400
Speaker 2: It's a little you can kind of you kind of

270
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880
Speaker 2: only have your own brain and your own lived experience,

271
00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,800
Speaker 2: and it's kind of nice to listen to what's going

272
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,280
Speaker 2: on in other people's brains and lives because it can

273
00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,560
Speaker 2: help inform your own a little bit. Uh. I'd like

274
00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640
Speaker 2: to do that some someday. Go to like a well,

275
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,280
Speaker 2: I went to Portugal, I went to Lisbon. I did

276
00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,440
Speaker 2: a show there a year ago. But like, uh, going

277
00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,640
Speaker 2: to some random place to do a weird thing. I

278
00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,760
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm phrasing it like that, but uh yeah,

279
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,040
Speaker 2: shout out to those people. They were cool. I was

280
00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,040
Speaker 2: about to say, I'm sorry I forgot that guy's name,

281
00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,840
Speaker 2: but I'm kind of not because like if you quiz

282
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200
Speaker 2: like if you win ahead, here's my thing about names

283
00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,720
Speaker 2: with and I've said this eight thousand times, what I'm

284
00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,720
Speaker 2: gonna say it again. If you were to like quiz

285
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,600
Speaker 2: me on like that guy's life or like that couple's life,

286
00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,400
Speaker 2: if you were to like write down a list of

287
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,800
Speaker 2: if you were like quiz me on like specific things

288
00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,040
Speaker 2: that maybe they said about themselves, I'd get at least

289
00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,120
Speaker 2: fifty percent on that ques I don't remember what the

290
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:57,480
Speaker 2: guy said he did for a living, I would actually

291
00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,640
Speaker 2: probably get a forty percent. Here's the thing. I remember

292
00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,120
Speaker 2: the vibe of the conversation that I just had, whether

293
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,919
Speaker 2: or not. I remember that I liked those two. I

294
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 2: remembered that I was inspired by them. I remember that

295
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,959
Speaker 2: I enjoyed talking to them, and I remember the general

296
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,960
Speaker 2: sentiment and vibe that they get off gave off. Even

297
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,240
Speaker 2: if I don't remember a name, uh but I do.

298
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,680
Speaker 2: His name was Nico, and I think her name was Emily.

299
00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,879
Speaker 2: Or maybe it was Chris. I don't know. I don't know.

300
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:34,439
Speaker 9: I don't know.

301
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:43,960
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, what is your name? Walker Walker, Texas Ranger.

302
00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:44,640
Speaker 2: What's up?

303
00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,679
Speaker 7: Yeah?

304
00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,959
Speaker 9: Yeah?

305
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,600
Speaker 4: Not much?

306
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,159
Speaker 9: Wait is this Lyle?

307
00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,879
Speaker 2: This is Lyle? This is me? Hi? Hello?

308
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,119
Speaker 4: What is who are you? You're a Walker?

309
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,280
Speaker 9: I'm Walker? But I'm dressed as Bob Belcher mom and

310
00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,680
Speaker 9: my Halloween costume right now?

311
00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,480
Speaker 2: Oh you do have what are your hellen plans?

312
00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

313
00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,000
Speaker 5: Not much.

314
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 9: Me and my girlfriend we don't. We don't like party,

315
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600
Speaker 9: but we're going to like hand out candy to kids.

316
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,480
Speaker 9: It's gonna be great.

317
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 2: That's nice. That's a sweet. Do people still trick or treat?

318
00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: Or is it has? Has the world just gotten too

319
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,000
Speaker 2: crazy for that?

320
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,840
Speaker 9: I don't we were talking about that. I don't think

321
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 9: people trick or treat any more because of COVID. I

322
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,359
Speaker 9: think it's all like trunk or treat?

323
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,119
Speaker 2: Now, where are you going to hand out candidate? Kids?

324
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:31,840
Speaker 5: We live in.

325
00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,400
Speaker 9: Vermont, so it's like a little small town called Bristol.

326
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,000
Speaker 2: That's cool? Is it? Like? Uh? I mean I grew

327
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,960
Speaker 2: up in the suburbs and there were like all these

328
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,119
Speaker 2: cul de sacs and it was you know, uh, do

329
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 2: you are. What's the like landscape? Are you like in

330
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,880
Speaker 2: a little town? Is it a suburb?

331
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's like a little mountain town. But we

332
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 9: live on a flower farm right now.

333
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 2: You live on a flower farm.

334
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 9: I live on a flower farm. I work on the farm.

335
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 9: Or season's almost over, but yeah, yeah, it's like this

336
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 9: really dope house. We actually have to move in like

337
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 9: a few weeks. So I'm actually we're really upset about it,

338
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 9: but it'll be good in the long runs.

339
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 2: Wait, tell me more about your life. You live on

340
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 2: a flower farm in Vermont. Who who are you? How

341
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 2: did you? How did you become that?

342
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 9: I'm I'm the Texas Ranger. No, I'm just I grew

343
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 9: up in South Carolina and I decided I wanted to

344
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 9: be a sea instructor. So like three years ago, I

345
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 9: moved out to Vermont and best decision I ever made.

346
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 9: So now I spend my life doing seasonal work. I've

347
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 9: been doing it.

348
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 5: For like three years. Sorry, I just.

349
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 9: Got a little nervous because I just realized some on the.

350
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 5: Phone with you.

351
00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 9: But but yeah, no, I've been doing seasonal work for

352
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 9: like three years. So I ski instruct in the winter,

353
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 9: and I've been kind of like bouncing around from different

354
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 9: jobs for like summer and spring and stuff.

355
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 2: Cool. What's a flower house? Like, you guys make flowers

356
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: in the house.

357
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 9: No, we like so we like grow the flowers, so

358
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 9: we like work on the farm. But the house is

359
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 9: just like on the property. So when he hired me,

360
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 9: he was like, do you want to live on the property?

361
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 9: And I was like, hell yeah. And it's it's a

362
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 9: really cool howthing. It has curved walls. We call it

363
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 9: like the boat or the beehive.

364
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 2: It has curved walls.

365
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 9: As curved walls looks like it looks like a beehive.

366
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 5: It does look like a beehive.

367
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: That's cool, man. How long you've been living there?

368
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 9: Not long? Like seven months?

369
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 2: Are gonna go?

370
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 9: We're moving down to like southern Vermonts to teach ski

371
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 9: So I teach skiing at this resort called Mount Snow

372
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 9: and shout out Mount Snow. But yeah, so I've been

373
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 9: teaching there for the last few years, so i want

374
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 9: to move back down to go teach there. But I'm

375
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 9: super bummed to leave the house. That's actually why I

376
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 9: was trying to call you. It was like to debate

377
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,959
Speaker 9: if I should move or not.

378
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 2: Well, why, yeah, why are you moving?

379
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 9: Well, mainly just to ski instruct because it's like it's

380
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,239
Speaker 9: my favorite thing ever. It's like I'm so passionate about it.

381
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 9: It's like someone who grew up in South Carolina. It

382
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 9: was like always like a fun thing. My parents like

383
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 9: would take me for spring break and stuff, and I

384
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 9: just like fell in love with it. So I was

385
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 9: always like, I want to ski instructure when I grow up, and.

386
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 5: I've just stuck with it.

387
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 9: I really love it. So I knew if I didn't

388
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 9: do it, i'd be like super depressed this winter.

389
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: And so you're moving to go do it?

390
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so we got Yeah.

391
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 4: That sounds you I don't have you don't it sounds

392
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 4: like a great idea.

393
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just talk, Yeah, I get. I'm so excited

394
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 9: about It's just like you know how like moving is,

395
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 9: and it's just it's so stressful. It's like, so I

396
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 9: read a statistic, it's like the most stressful thing to

397
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 9: do in your lifetime. And because young people move so much,

398
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 9: we're like the most just out generation, which tracks I think.

399
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: That's a fascinating thing. Is really is that the most

400
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: stressful thing you do is moving.

401
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 9: I think someone my best friend told me that, and

402
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 9: she knows so much.

403
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got.

404
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: You've got your sources properly cited.

405
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: That's good, exactly exactly. I mean, yeah, it's stressful to move.

406
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: That's why I lived out of airbnbs for so long.

407
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: I didn't want to fucking uh deal with it.

408
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, and moving furniture is the worst. We keep moving

409
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 9: into new into furnished places. Everywhere I've lived in the

410
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 9: last like three years been pretty much fully furnished.

411
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: How'd you meet your girlfriends?

412
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 9: We met at the Mountain Mountain? Funny enough, you didn't

413
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 9: ski though.

414
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, what what was she doing there if she didn't ski?

415
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 9: She was so we work in like the ski school,

416
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 9: so she was kind of looking after the little kids

417
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 9: and dealing with the parents, which is probably the worst

418
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 9: job you can have in ski school.

419
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, what how long? How long are you living

420
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: in southern Vermont for? Uh?

421
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 9: We have a year leaf, which is the first time

422
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 9: I've ever signed a lease longer than eight months.

423
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Cool. You sound like you you're doing good. You sound

424
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: like you've you've got a nice uh life. Just from

425
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: my where I sit, it looks yeah, you have a

426
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: nice life.

427
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 9: I I like I like where I am?

428
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel good every day? Do you feel peaceful?

429
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: I know, you know.

430
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 9: That's the thing is like I if I had, like

431
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 9: you know, if I could go back and like tell

432
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 9: younger me where I am, like they'd be so excited,

433
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 9: you know, like this is awes. That's like the best

434
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 9: situation I could have ever predicted for myself. You know,

435
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 9: I'm living like cottage core lesbian dream right now, but

436
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 9: like still I wake up and I'm like I'm not satisfied.

437
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 9: It's like there's just like more I want to do.

438
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 9: But it's I'm very happy with where I am. But

439
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 9: I have a hard time livingly like you talk about

440
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 9: it all the time. I have a really hard time

441
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 9: being present and just trying to like live in the

442
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 9: moment like I was at well, was listening to you

443
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 9: today at work, and I was just trying to really

444
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 9: like taking like oh, I'm cutting these merry golds right

445
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 9: now and I'm like smelling them and like trying to

446
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 9: take in every moment. But it's hard.

447
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: It's so hard.

448
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 4: What was I said? What was I saying? What was

449
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: I saying?

450
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 9: I don't remember. It was the new one, it was

451
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 9: the one you put out yesterday.

452
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: I was reading now, I like, I know I am

453
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: saying this to be funny, but it is also true.

454
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: I always forget that I have a podcast where I

455
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: say stuff.

456
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is kind of wild. I'm trying to I've

457
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 9: just been trying to start a podcast with my friends,

458
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 9: and I realized talking is just like really hard when

459
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 9: you're not when you have to.

460
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking is hard. Talking is hard. I'm talking is hard.

461
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about like, uh, I'm thinking about a life.

462
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: I think about a version of life that feels really

463
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: really really easy, and when I'm thinking about it, it

464
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: involves a lot of not talking.

465
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 9: Like yeah.

466
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like a lot of like being around large

467
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: groups of people that you're like included in but you're

468
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: not talking to any of them. That's kind of my dream.

469
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: My dream is to constantly be in large rooms of

470
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: people that like maybe that like I've organized together and

471
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: who are all my friends and that I care about,

472
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: and then just not talk to any of them, but

473
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: just just be physically present and uh drunk and just

474
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: not saying anything to anyone, just looking around and thinking.

475
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: But you're still there, You're still with people, You're still

476
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: you're socializing when you don't have to say a word.

477
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: It sounds like a dream to me.

478
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 9: That is the dream because like the vibe is already there.

479
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 9: You don't have to like make it in it right.

480
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: There's nothing. There is an Onion article that's so funny

481
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: and it says something like ninety nine percent of conversations

482
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: do not need to happen, And it's true.

483
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 6: It's true most I saw that Onion article.

484
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this knows of the times you don't have to

485
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: It is hard to talk. It is hard to talk.

486
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: You ever talk? You ever just talked one on one

487
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: to one person? It's it's it's genuinely so exhausting.

488
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's what you do every day though, Yeah, I mean.

489
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: It's a little different. It's a little different because I

490
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: do it. I'll say that it's well, it is exhausting,

491
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: but it's it's a little different because I do it

492
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: in the context of recording a podcast. And I think

493
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: that that context, Like you ever like been at a

494
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: party or something and you found yourself in a one

495
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: on one conversation with someone, Yeah, surely the most exhausting,

496
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: Like when you're at a party and you're like standing

497
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: exact when you're at a party and you're like standing

498
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: in a circle of people and you're not talking but yet.

499
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: But if you're standing around at a party and you're

500
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: in a circle of people and you're not talking, and

501
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: you feel a little anxious that you haven't talked because

502
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, maybe I'm like, you know, you

503
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: just feel weird about that, that's bad. But if you're

504
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: if you can get to a situation where you're in

505
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: a group, you're standing at a party or at a thing,

506
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: and you're in a group of people and you're not talking,

507
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: but you feel comfortable, that's that's optimal. You know. It's

508
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: like if you've ever been at a at a like

509
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: a whatever and you're just you one on one, are

510
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 2: talking to one person and you have to keep thinking

511
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: of things to say, it's just so exhausting.

512
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, we also can't listen.

513
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 9: I find that I'm like, i feel like I'm like

514
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 9: an entertainer sometimes at party, Like I love to talk

515
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 9: to people because it's a lot, it's a lot. But

516
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 9: like we were just we were just at a wedding

517
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 9: and like, you know, it's like a ton of fucking people.

518
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 9: My social battery has never been so in my entire life.

519
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: But that was also the.

520
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 9: Kind of vibe where like, if you don't want to

521
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 9: say anything, you can just sit there and I don't

522
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 9: feel uncomfortable. So it's like, but I feel like you

523
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 9: have to know the people, Like these are people I've

524
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 9: been in social situations with for like a while. You know.

525
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it too. I really actually do.

526
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'm in the mood, you know, it is

527
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: exhaust but this is always it depends on my mood.

528
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm really to talk to people. I throw a

529
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: little party at my house a little while ago one time,

530
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: and uh, I was just I stood in the corner

531
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: and I didn't talk to anyone for not the whole time,

532
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: but for just like like five minutes. And it was

533
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: the best that I felt because I'd gathered everyone into

534
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: one room, but I didn't have to say, I didn't

535
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: have to do anything. It was great.

536
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, you just provided the stays. That's kind of the

537
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 9: best situation.

538
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, like I do my live shows and my

539
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: tours and stuff. I'm trying to figure out a way

540
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 2: that I can, like how do I do a show?

541
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: But I but not my whole show was about talking

542
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: to people. I'm like, how do I do a version

543
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: of it where I just don't actually have to say

544
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: anything at all? Can like, can I gather a but

545
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: can I gather a bunch of people to a theater

546
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: and give somehow give them a good experience? But I

547
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: but without having to actually do anything.

548
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a riddle.

549
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 9: I'm trying to think. Yeah, I feel like you could.

550
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 9: I feel like, well, you could just show up to

551
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 9: a place to sit there.

552
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm being I'm being like seventy I'm being like seventy

553
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: percent facetious right now. Anyway, anyway, what's your name again,

554
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 2: Walker Walker, Texas Ranger. Well, this was thanks for this

555
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: was you know what? This was an easy conversation. This

556
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: was this was this felt easy. So thanks for making

557
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: this easy.

558
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: That's great.

559
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 9: That's all I ever wanted was a chill conversation with you.

560
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 9: So thank you so much for kicking out. You took

561
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 9: me completely off guard. I had just walked inside of

562
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 9: my Bob Belcher costume, so I did not expect it.

563
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Well, enjoy uh, enjoy whatever you're gonna do with with

564
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: uh with that Bob Belcher costume.

565
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you so much.

566
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: God bless you.

567
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 9: Walker, Thank you, bye, GAK, see you later.

568
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't have a Halloween costume. I only have I

569
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: have my Gecko costume. But if I went out for

570
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: Halloween in my Gecko costume, that'd be really lame. By

571
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: the way I do like talking to people.

572
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: I do.

573
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do what I do if

574
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: I didn't.

575
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: But.

576
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: It is undenied. It is sometimes I'm like in such

577
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: a I mean, you guys know, everyone knows what it's

578
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: like to have different states of energy, and sometimes I,

579
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: you know, I really have felt at times in which

580
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: I was at the head and there's no energy to

581
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: say anything ever to anyone, and then times where I

582
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: was like, I'm a genius and I can talk to

583
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: anyone who ever. And it kind of oscillates between those

584
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: two things. I don't know if it's like a I

585
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm fucking bitepolar or whatever the fuck,

586
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: but like, uh, it's just I always just feel like

587
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: I always isolate. I feel like I'm always oscillating between like, oh,

588
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to talk to anyone ever again,

589
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: and then like, oh, I think I can talk to anyone.

590
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's a weird thing. Hello, Yeah,

591
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: what's up?

592
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 7: Bro?

593
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: Hey? What's up? Player? What's your name?

594
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: Carter?

595
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Carter? What's going on? Carter? How's life?

596
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Honestly? Pretty fucking great? Man, Like, I've kind of done

597
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: everything and now I'm just like, what the fuck else.

598
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 6: Do I do?

599
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: Wow?

600
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: That's I would like, I'm so excited to talk to you.

601
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: You've done it? Do you mean for the day or

602
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: just in life? You've done it all?

603
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: Dude? Like I feel like I've pretty much done it all.

604
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: Like I'm like thirty one, I've gotten my masters, I

605
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: had like a good job, I got a got a

606
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: wife and three dogs, and I mean I don't want kids.

607
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: I play all the video games, I smoke all the weed,

608
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: and like what else is there?

609
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 6: Now?

610
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

611
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what I don't know what else is there?

612
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what what? Yeah? That's what do you think?

613
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: The answer to that question is, well.

614
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the only important thing for me

615
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: right now is like playing video games, like I like

616
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: fighting games like a shit ton. Yeah I can say

617
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: shit right, yeah right.

618
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you can say whatever man, Yeah, well go ahead,

619
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: can't keep going.

620
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying I like I like play like

621
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fighting games, and I like, I'm trying

622
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: to get mastered Rank and six Fighter Street Fighter six,

623
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you you know about Melee.

624
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know about Rivals of Eve.

625
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: That's a new Oh okay, well, I apologize. Shame on

626
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: me for fucking assuming. But yeah no, I'm like, I'm

627
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: like just griding those, and after I've hit masters on those,

628
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm just like, what the fuck use am I gonna do?

629
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: So let's get back to your existential car. Are you

630
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: actually having an existential crisis? You don't sound like you are.

631
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: You sound like you're doing it.

632
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: No, dude, Like I feel like I'm doing all right,

633
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: But I feel like after like another year of just

634
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, New Game Plus, I'm gonna start freaking out.

635
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you are kind of on New Game Plus.

636
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I really do. Like my

637
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: gut really please don't take anything I ever say seriously,

638
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: but my gut is telling me that you could just

639
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: play video games and be nice to your wife and

640
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: dogs and then die and you did, you did, you

641
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: would get an A plus on your homework. You know,

642
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Life is uh I'm gonna talk about

643
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: something completely unrelated, but still I went. I was at

644
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: meaw Wolf in uh Dallas, shout out to me Wolf,

645
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: Meowolf rocks. And I found this little uh book or

646
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: something that was in the exhibit, and it said something like,

647
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: how can you ever be doing nothing when you are

648
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: always being a being? And I was like, that makes

649
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, you know what I mean? Like

650
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: the bare minimum of existence is not particularly hard. You

651
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: went above and beyond, you formed the what sounds I mean?

652
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: You've told me nothing about the quality of your relationship,

653
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: and I've asked you no questions about it, but I

654
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: just blanketly assume that it's going well. You have three

655
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: dogs who all sound all three of your dogs sound

656
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 2: like they're not dead.

657
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: They're all right under my feet, laying down, kind of chilling.

658
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: So you don't have a kid, then you don't sound

659
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: like you want one. You have food and your everyone

660
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: everyone has food. Yeah, play video games and play video

661
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: games and then die. I guess I don't know what else.

662
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be Anything else you did outside of playing

663
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: video games and dying would be just a bonus.

664
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: All right, That's that's fair. I'm trying to play guitar,

665
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: but I kind of gave up on that because I'm

666
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 3: fucking horrible. I'd rather press buttons.

667
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Well, tell me more about your the crisis of New

668
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Game Plus?

669
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: All right? So, I mean, I actually don't even know

670
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 3: how old you are. I assume that you're like, what,

671
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: late twenties, early thirties.

672
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm dying. I'm about to turn twenty seven.

673
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: Oh god, Well, once you hit thirty, you know, blah

674
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: blah blah, it goes downhill. But no, like, dude, you

675
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: hit like a certain like you know, threshold where you're

676
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: kind of happy doing whatever. I've heard you're on like

677
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: previous streams and whatnot. But have you ever felt like

678
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: you're on New Game Plus?

679
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot I actually don't feel like I'm on

680
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: New Game Plus. I feel like, uh, do you want to?

681
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: You know how I actually feel? I feel like I'm

682
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in Uh like you ever play you ever

683
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: play Zelda? And like maybe you've beaten a couple dungeons

684
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: and you're walking around the overworld map trying to find

685
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: out what you're supposed to do next to progress the game. Yeah,

686
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: and you're just walking around High Rule trying to figure

687
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: out what where are you supposed to go? What are

688
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: you supposed to do?

689
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 9: Uh?

690
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: And eventually get frustrated and you look it up on

691
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: the internet. That's kind of what my life feels like,

692
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: except I can't just look it up on the internet

693
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: because it's not linear. So I don't feel like I'm

694
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: in New Game Plus.

695
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 4: There's a lot that I still desire.

696
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I feel good enough regularly to consider

697
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: myself on New Game Plus. There's aspects of my life

698
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know if continuing further down,

699
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: there's aspects of my life where I'm like, I don't

700
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: know if approaching this the way that I've been approaching

701
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: it uh historically is going to yield different results. But no,

702
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: I definitely still uh I there's there's a lot that

703
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: I want for all.

704
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: Right, that's fair. I got another question, if you don't

705
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: mind full of them at this point? Yeah, okay, So

706
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: if you're not a New Game Plus, is there like

707
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: a point where you're like gonna get like a new

708
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: expansion pack? Because I kind of feel like I'm I'm

709
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: ready for a new XPEC at this point.

710
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: Am I gonna get a new expansion pack. I I'm

711
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, Uh, that's a that's a great question.

712
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 4: That's a great question. I've been thinking about that.

713
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: I think about that. I feel a little stuck. But uh,

714
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: whether or not you get in the new expansion pack

715
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: kind of has to I kind of if I if

716
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: if I could, I'd put the game down for like

717
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: a fucking second and then come back. That's kind of Yeah,

718
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: maybe that's being in a coma. Maybe that's being in

719
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: a coma. Maybe that's maybe that's not being in all. No,

720
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to do I don't want to be

721
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: in a clue. Maybe that's just like going for a walk.

722
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what that is.

723
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: But uh, can you.

724
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Say your original question again? It was a good one.

725
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh so expansion packs is Yeah, the expansion pack a

726
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: lot of that. It feels like it's mental if you

727
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: fully believe I think that you, I mean, you have

728
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: to have.

729
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: A lot of courage to add an expansion pack.

730
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: You have to kind of you know, code it yourself.

731
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: You have to make a random weird dude, do you

732
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: have to do stuff?

733
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: I got bored earlier in the year, so I started

734
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: like running marathons and stuff, and like I've done like

735
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: like like three half marathons and like like four ten k's,

736
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: and I thought that that was going to be like

737
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: my x PAC but it was just like really really

738
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 3: bad DC with like no content, like no in game

739
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: shot type shit.

740
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So so that means that marathon running was bad.

741
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not that it's bad. It's just like not

742
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: fulfilling as I don't know, getting stable in life, getting

743
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: a good job, getting degrees, having like things that you love.

744
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like at this point

745
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: I could kind of like pass away and like I

746
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: don't know, don't make a statue out of me for

747
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: being mediocre at best.

748
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Well, what's your wife think about life? Your life together?

749
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: What's what's her Uh? Does she have similar Uh?

750
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: She's like as a she's like as accomplished and whatnot.

751
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: So like, you know, that's all good and dandy, but

752
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 3: she's kind of happy, just like playing the last stage

753
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: over and over again, whereas I'm like, this game's the

754
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: game's this game's bonk bro, like we're the new Mechanics.

755
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. How do you reinvent your life? That's

756
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: a very interesting question. How old did you say you

757
00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: were I'm thirty one. Brother, that's cool. Well, you said

758
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: you wanted to play guitar, but then you gave that

759
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: you didn't want to. What about traveling? Do you want

760
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: to go anywhere? Dude?

761
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: I want to travel, but I feel like if I travel,

762
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: like things are just kind of you know, like when

763
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: you leave your home and then you go somewhere else

764
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: for a long time and you come back and home

765
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like home. I'm afraid of that.

766
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: What do you mean by home doesn't feel like home?

767
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: Okay? You know when you go somewhere and like you

768
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: experience a bunch of stuff and you're like, oh, I

769
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: want to experience this all the time, and then you

770
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: know it's like kind of fake because you're gonna come

771
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: back and then you're sleeping in your bed that you

772
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: slept in before you left, and you're just like this,

773
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: this isn't it man.

774
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: You're you are thinking that you're saying that you might

775
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 2: like where you go more than you like your home,

776
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: and then the world will feel like your home instead

777
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: of your home feeling like your home.

778
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: I think it's the inverse of that, where I like

779
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: leave and it shakes up like my fucking rhythm. And

780
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: then I go back and then I'm like, all my

781
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: rhythms all out of whack. This doesn't feel like it's

782
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: how it should be. But then after a minute, it

783
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: just kind of feels like how it should be.

784
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Aren't you Aren't you somewhat expressing a desire to have

785
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: your rhythm shook? Isn't that kind of what you're talking about?

786
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 9: This?

787
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing, dude.

788
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: No way, I'm autistic. I like my rhythms, like you know,

789
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: I keep my melody at a at a steady taste.

790
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So so so you're good.

791
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: Now I'm chilling, dude, Like I'm chilling, and that's like,

792
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: what's worrying me? I feel like I shouldn't be chilling.

793
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: That's it. Uh well, you know, I'm like, here's the thing.

794
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: It's funny because there's a.

795
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Like desire is so uh like paradoxical in many ways

796
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: because the I really do, I really do believe in

797
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: that whole like desire is suffering thing. But then it's like,

798
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: when you don't have desire, you start to desire desire, right,

799
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: which is what you're kind of which is what I'm

800
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: getting from you. Is that you desire desire, which in

801
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: and but it's a paradox. Honestly, that's a desire you

802
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: then possess what you want.

803
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy because I always tell people like, dude, like,

804
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: imagine when you were a kid and like you you

805
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: figured out like how to spell and like how to

806
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: color within the lines, like that shit was fucking amazing,

807
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: Like it was you felt accomplished. And now it's you're

808
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I got to work on time. Oh yeah,

809
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 3: I fucking I fucking hate everything else. I don't know, dude,

810
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy, and it's not like I like I'm

811
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: craving the struggle. I grew up and I grew up struggling,

812
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: like I was a very poor trial, Like I couldn't

813
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: really speak until I was, you know, twelve, a lot

814
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: of speech therapy and shit, so like the struggle is real.

815
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: It's just, uh, I don't know. I think everybody should struggle,

816
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: Like all the.

817
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: Time you said you think you think everyone should struggle.

818
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: I think everyone should struggle, like all the time. I

819
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: think like getting above and out of struggling is is

820
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: the true accomplishment of life, Like you're always fighting if

821
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: that means I want. Yeah, like, right now, I'm like

822
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: level ninety nine and I'm just I'm just killing shit.

823
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, uh, why don't you help other people who

824
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: you feel like are struggling?

825
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so I thought about doing that, ironically enough, I

826
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: like wanted to be a social worker when I was,

827
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 3: you know, going to school, and I realized I don't

828
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: like people. I like smoking weed, playing video games, and like,

829
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, figuring shit out, and I

830
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: don't know. I guess I'm just still trying to figure

831
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: the shit out. Brother.

832
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah uh yeah, by the way, not liking people understood, understandable,

833
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: stood shit. I yeah, dude, uh uh, you're good.

834
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: Just play video games and then and then die respectably.

835
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: That's okay, hundred truly, while I'm dying, I'll think of

836
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: this conversation. And but before we get off the phone,

837
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: I want.

838
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: To just hold out before you say what you got

839
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: to say. I hope that in the next I hope,

840
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: first of all, you're thirty one. I hope you live.

841
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: I hope you live at least forty more years. And

842
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: I hope that forty years from now, forty fifty, I'll

843
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: give you fifty. I hope you live at least fifty

844
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: more years, and I hope fifty years from now that

845
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: so many other things have happened in your life that

846
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: are much more exciting than this conversation, such that you

847
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: you don't you're not thinking about it when you die?

848
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: What when else in my life? I'm going to talk

849
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: to a freaking get go man, like I don't.

850
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, but there might have. There might be

851
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: other things in your life that also happened that aren't

852
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: just this.

853
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: Nah, do not, dude. I've been to you for years now,

854
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: I've like maybe tried to call her text in twice.

855
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: And also I'm so confused why people say you sound

856
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: different on the phone. You sound exactly the same. Like

857
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: you sound exactly the same. It's ridiculous.

858
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 4: I interrupted you as you were going to say something.

859
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just gonna say, like, you know,

860
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: to to you and the audience before you. You booted

861
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: me off the lines of someone else who's more interesting

862
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: can come and start talking, like, keep doing whatever the

863
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: hell you want to do unless you're hurting somebody yourself,

864
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: and then stop doing that immediately. That's it.

865
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: What's your name again? Carter?

866
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: Brother?

867
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Carter Carter. I remembered it. Carter, Carter, I'm really happy

868
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: for you. I mean that I'm happy for you. I hope, uh,

869
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: keep keep doing. I'm gonna try to borrow some of

870
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 2: your energy.

871
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: One one last question. If you're playing Rivals of Ether,

872
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: who you playing?

873
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 5: Dude?

874
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: I know what it is. I'm not. I don't. I couldn't.

875
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 2: I can't name a single character. I only really play Melee.

876
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's fair enough. I figured since you were

877
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: a Melee head, you would have at least been, like,

878
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: you know, maybe in the in the realm of Ether.

879
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: I like the lion guy. I'll say that, I like

880
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: the lion. I know there's a I like him. Take

881
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: care of Carter?

882
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: See your brother.

883
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: New game plus? Is that the key? I guess that's

884
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: the key the key he's I was. I wish, you know,

885
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: I wish I would have actually talked to him more

886
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: about that idea that he said that everyone should be

887
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: struggling all the time, because I don't. I don't know. Uh,

888
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think that's true or not.

889
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm not. I'm not God. I

890
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: wish I was. I actually I don't. I don't wish

891
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: I was God. That's way too much. That's too much

892
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: to be God. I'm perfectly okay. I think being mortal

893
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: is a good gig. You get eighty if you're lucky,

894
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: you get eighty years. If you're not, you get twelve,

895
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: and you could put whatever you get what you get,

896
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: and then then you die and then you're done. That's it.

897
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: You work over if you're a mortal, if you're God.

898
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh it sounds like, oh my god, nothing sounds more

899
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: exhausting than being God and being a mortal. I'd rather

900
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: I'd rather go right now than than live forever. That's

901
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: too that's too much. Still so lonely. I think dying

902
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: would suck more if not everyone did it like it,

903
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: like if you like, if you're listening to this and

904
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: you're afraid of death, it's if you if you were

905
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 2: the only one where that had happened to that would

906
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: be really, that'd be really, that'd be horrifyingly sad if

907
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: you were the only one. But you're not. That's your

908
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: part of a bunch of stuff, and so so it's

909
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: not it's not good to be I don't know. I

910
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: haven't been talking for too long. I'm gonna end this. Hello.

911
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

912
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: Yes?

913
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 5: Hi?

914
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: What is your name?

915
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 5: Elena?

916
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: Elena? What's up? Elena? How you doing? Dude?

917
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: Nothing much, very chill today. I you know, opt on

918
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: your stream because I thought you were streaming.

919
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Where are you? Sound like you're in a public place

920
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: of some kind.

921
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 5: Oh no, I am so sorry. I am in my

922
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: living room.

923
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Very cool, very nice. Well Elena, what do you want

924
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: to talk about today?

925
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 5: Well? Actually I went to go see you in Pittsburgh

926
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: and I was like, like I kind of had a

927
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 5: little bit of a self realization based off of when

928
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 5: your uh, your guys is prompts.

929
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: One of our prompts.

930
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. On the guy was talking about how, you know,

931
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: his life was perfect, and it was kind of like,

932
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I don't.

933
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Can I can? I can I give the listeners some

934
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: context to what you're what you're about to talk about? Course,

935
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: So I did a show in in Pittsburgh at the

936
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 2: Bottle Rocket Comedy Club shout out the Battle Rocket Comedy Club.

937
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: That place rocks, and this guy came on stage and

938
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: he talked about how he's He basically was saying that

939
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: he's like an alcoholic, but that his life is pretty great,

940
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: and so he has no incentive to change. Would you

941
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: say that's accurate?

942
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds about right.

943
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he was based. That's basically what he was saying.

944
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: So tell me, tell me more about your experience.

945
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 6: Uh listening to him talk, yeah, so I was like, damn,

946
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 6: like I feel the I feel this way, like I

947
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 6: only have one hinderance in my life, and.

948
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: Besides that, I feel absolutely wonderful.

949
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have good Uh. I was kind of

950
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: amazed by that guy too. I was thinking about his

951
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: situation because you know, he's he was definitely coming off

952
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: like he was more satisfied with his life than I

953
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: am with mine, and I didn't know, uh, And so

954
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: I really questioned it. I was really thinking about it.

955
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: I actually was thinking about that guy a lot as

956
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: while I was on stage with him and a little

957
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: bit after, because I was like, is if your life

958
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: is truly But that's the question, is there are you?

959
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: Is he Do you think he was maybe lying to

960
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: himself or maybe there was something we didn't know. I

961
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: don't know, but you know what if I don't actually

962
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about that guy because he's not here

963
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: and you are, so tell me about your situation.

964
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 8: Right.

965
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 5: So I'm currently in school and I work a part

966
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 5: time job. But like I have one problem in my life,

967
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 5: and that's that I have chronic pain.

968
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: But your life is good other than that.

969
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean i'd say, like the problem with it though,

970
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: is you know, it definitely is a mental toll. And

971
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 5: so I guess that's what I wanted to talk to

972
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 5: you about today, because like, you know, it feels great otherwise,

973
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 5: but you know, brings it puts you down sometimes.

974
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: I do have to say, I think having chronic pain

975
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: is different from alcoholism because the chronic pain. Yeah, that

976
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: would say, that's a lot, that's a lot. Yeah, because

977
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: that guy was like, I drink seven beers a day

978
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: and my life is perfect, so I'm never gonna stop.

979
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit different from enjoy finding

980
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: way of finding how to uh really enjoy life despite

981
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: chronic pain. So I don't actually think those are remotely

982
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: comparable situations. But I'm I'm impressed. I'm impressed. I'm impressed

983
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: by it. Yeah, tell me more.

984
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I I've had a chronic pains for about

985
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 5: the past six years, and like you know, it's getting

986
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 5: to the point where I'm I'm a little snappy and

987
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 5: I feel terrible, And just to like preface, I I

988
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 5: did sign up to go to actual therapy, so but

989
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 5: I thought i'd call and get your opinion on it.

990
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: My opinion on what exactly.

991
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 5: Onke? How how do you think you would manage something

992
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 5: like this where you know it kind of hinders daily

993
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: life and just how to stay mentally well with it?

994
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: You know? But yeah, I used so sorry. I really wouldn't.

995
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't. I was I was talking on the

996
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: last podcast. I was talking about that guy, Kendrick Norton Junior,

997
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: who got his arm cut off like five years ago

998
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: in a car accident. I don't know if you listened

999
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: to that, but that guy got his car cut off

1000
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: in a car accident. And I was like looking at

1001
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: his Instagram recently and he was like smiling and enjoying life.

1002
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: And I don't have any advice. I have nothing for you,

1003
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: because if that happened to me, I would just uh,

1004
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: I would feel desolate. Right, Sorry, that's sorry. I don't know.

1005
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: How do you deal with chronic physic I don't know, dude.

1006
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: I had a cold last week and I almost fucking

1007
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: had to kill myself. I mean, what kind of pain

1008
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: do you have?

1009
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 5: So abdominal pain and it's just like kind of like

1010
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 5: a nice snapping you over and over again.

1011
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: Mm hm mm hmmm. Uh. I mean, well, I don't

1012
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: know why you want my opinion on it, because you're

1013
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: you open to this call by saying that you're doing

1014
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: great and enjoying life. So I mean I want your

1015
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: opinion on it. Well, how do you do it?

1016
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm pretty thankful for the things I have,

1017
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 5: so like, yeah, life is life is great. But then

1018
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 5: I feel so bad because I take, I take it's

1019
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 5: it's more frustrating than anything to have the paint. So

1020
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 5: I feel bad because like I get moody and snappy,

1021
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 5: and my boyfriend has to deal with it and my friends,

1022
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 5: so it's it's, you know, it's hard because I'm a

1023
00:55:51,719 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 5: little bit of a I get moody, I guess so.

1024
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: But so other than that, I mean, you're doing I

1025
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: mean you have friends and you have a boyfriend, and

1026
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: you're you're you're you're chilling withstanding it. Yeah that's pretty good. Uh,

1027
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: I'm impressed. I'm impressed by that. Now, if I have

1028
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: a little I have a little pimple on my nose,

1029
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: and I'm about ready to just cut the whole fucking

1030
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: thing off. So uh, yeah, I have. I have a

1031
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: little pimple on my nose, and it's ruined my entire life.

1032
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: I have like I have like big i have like

1033
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: life plans that I want to get to and I'm like,

1034
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm waiting until the pimple on my nose is gone

1035
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: for me. That's how much of a of a pussy

1036
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: I am when it comes to like dealing with any

1037
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: kind of pain or discomfort or sickness. So I applaud

1038
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: you on this.

1039
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Yeah, no, because, like I think, one

1040
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 5: of the biggest factors to mental problems is actually another

1041
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 5: thing from your show is the one guy was talking

1042
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: about having a Oh my gosh, what's what's the male

1043
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 5: opposite of a shysterectomy?

1044
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: And and does scopy and and no no, no, all

1045
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: that like.

1046
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: No, no, the yeah vasectomy ohect me.

1047
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay. So also at that Pittsburgh show, somebody

1048
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: came on stage to talk about having a vasectomy. Yes, yes, yes, yeah.

1049
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 5: And so you know, I'm currently in college and I've

1050
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: gone to all these doctors since I had the problems,

1051
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 5: and I was like, dude, if it's because it stems

1052
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 5: from my uterus? And so I said, if you have

1053
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: to take this out, because what I have is chronic,

1054
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 5: If you have to take this out, I am one

1055
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 5: hundred percent willing. And unlike male doctors, they say, oh no,

1056
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 5: like you can't really do anything, like you're too young,

1057
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: you might change your mind, stuff like that.

1058
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: So wait, so male doctors are more likely to take

1059
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: out the uterus than the female doctors. No, like.

1060
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 5: The women are less likely to be able to have

1061
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 5: a permanent change to their like reproductive organs than males.

1062
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 5: Like males are more likely to get the yes women,

1063
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 5: it's like, no, you your husband might want kids. Stuff

1064
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 5: like that.

1065
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: Is so art.

1066
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 4: Have you tried to get your uterus removed?

1067
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 5: Yes? I haven't. They've all told me and no, you're

1068
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: too young, you're too young.

1069
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: How old are you?

1070
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: I am nineteen?

1071
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: Uh?

1072
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean?

1073
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Is did the doctors tell you that if you got

1074
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: it removed, we get rid of the pain.

1075
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 5: They said that it could help. And at this point

1076
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, I will do anything.

1077
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: Well, she that's cool. Do do go do do go

1078
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: see a doctor and whatever the doctor says, that's probably cool.

1079
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: Right do you take like do you take like meds

1080
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: for it? Yeah?

1081
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 5: I do. The problem with that is, like I am

1082
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 5: very against because I understand opioid Egyptian. So it's not

1083
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 5: like the stuff they give me isn't very strong and

1084
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: it doesn't really help.

1085
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: Mm hm m hmm. Well you can. I mean, uh, well,

1086
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: this is good, this is uh again. I'm impressed that

1087
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: you're able to withstand any any pain of any kind.

1088
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: And unlike the guy who came on stage and then

1089
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh show, you don't have to drink seven beers

1090
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: to do it, So you know, good on, good on you,

1091
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: good on you. What's your what's your name again?

1092
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 5: Elena?

1093
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: Elena? Well, Alena, is there anything else that you want

1094
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer or anything

1095
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 2: at all before we go?

1096
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: If the dear guy from Pittsburgh is watching, he did

1097
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: a great job.

1098
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: He did do a great job. He did do a

1099
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: great job. Well, thank you very much for calling, Lena.

1100
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you for answering.

1101
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 2: Have a good one you too. If it'll, honestly, dude,

1102
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: if it'll stop this, if it'll get rid of this

1103
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: pimple on my nose, I'll I will also get rid

1104
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: of my uterus. I don't know if anyone knows a

1105
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: doctor that can that will be willing to let me,

1106
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: that will be willing to remove my uterists to stop

1107
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: my nose pimple. By the way, for reference the deer

1108
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: guy that she was referring to, I'll tell this story.

1109
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: There was a guy in the comments section of my

1110
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: YouTube channel shout out my boy Leon. This guy comments

1111
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: on one of my YouTube videos and he goes he

1112
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: says something like, hey man, I started doing stand up

1113
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 2: comedy very recently, and I wanted and I started doing

1114
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: this bit where I dress up like a deer and

1115
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: I tell deer jokes. And I saw you coming to Pittsburgh,

1116
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: and I was wondering if I could open for you.

1117
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: And I didn't look at any of his YouTube videos beforehand.

1118
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: I was just like, I was like zero vetting. I responded,

1119
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, absolutely, of course, of course, random

1120
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: person from my YouTube comments, you can absolutely open for

1121
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: my show in Pittsburgh. And he came and uh, he

1122
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: did this show and he was at He was actually

1123
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: really fucking good. He was really fucking good. He honestly,

1124
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this like I really mean this. I

1125
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: think he did better than I did. I genuinely like

1126
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 2: like when just crowd reaction, he did better than I did.

1127
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: So we are we are one for one on putting

1128
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: our faith in people. From the YouTube comments, uh so,

1129
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: shout out Leon, shout out the deer guy.

1130
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 4: Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode.

1131
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 4: But get this, I'm releasing a bonus episode this week.

1132
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: That's right, an entire extra hour of the podcast that

1133
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: you can listen to by becoming a premium member of

1134
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: Therapy Gecko over at therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com.

1135
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 4: Supercast subscribers get access to bonus episodes. They get a

1136
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: completely ad free podcast feed of the regular show, they

1137
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: get recordings from my live shows, members only streams, and

1138
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 4: they help support my ability to continue doing this podcast.

1139
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 4: So here's a clip from this week's members only bonus episode.

1140
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 4: So you went to art school for two years and

1141
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 4: then you had to leave.

1142
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: Why do you have to leave?

1143
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the main reason I'm gonna be boring with

1144
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: you in money.

1145
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 5: Holy shit.

1146
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. That's by the by the way, by

1147
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: the way, by the way, a great reason to leave

1148
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: art school. No shade on the arts, but a little

1149
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: shade on art school, because like, look, man, if you

1150
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: want to be an artist, you can learn how to

1151
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: be a great artist to just on the fucking internet.

1152
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: You know, you don't need to give some fucking douchebag

1153
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars anyway. I mean, you're you're, you

1154
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: are done with that?

1155
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 6: Now?

1156
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 9: Do you?

1157
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: Are you in any debt?

1158
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 9: Oh?

1159
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah?

1160
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 9: How much?

1161
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: How it's not great?

1162
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 9: What is it?

1163
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: I want to say?

1164
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 5: At least twenty to thirty thousand?

1165
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, yeah, I've I've heard, I've heard

1166
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: worst numbers. If you want to hear this full conversation,

1167
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: you can sign up to become a premium member at

1168
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com, or find the link

1169
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: in the episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com.

1170
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: All right, I have nothing else to say. Therapy goes

1171
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: on the line, taking your phone calls every nine dec

1172
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: goes to just teaching you.

1173
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: The line's exper