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But more importantly, I like the role that 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: you're playing now as far as a father, as far 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: as you know in the relationship with your woman open like, 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: I just feel like you are saying of great example 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: of masculinity in twenty twenty five, because it's a lot 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: of it's a lot of other things that that's put 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: out there in the media, but what you're doing as 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: far as how you how you're handling yourself is very 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: reminiscent of a of an error that's familiar to me. 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: As far as being a little older than you, and 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: I feel like you're kind of like an old soul. 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: So I appreciate the way that you carry yourself first 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: and foremost appreciate that man. 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: Appreciate Yeah, man, you know, I'm off for the collective, 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: and I think that one of the main things that 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: we need to be doing as a people is getting 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: right with each other. And we gotta you know, the relationship, 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: the family aspect is a lot of healing that gotta 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: be done in that and you know, I kind of 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: keep that in my sights and I take my relationship 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: with my women very seriously. But you know, deeper, even 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: beyond us, like I look at us as if we 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to course correct, we have the opportunity 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: to stand on this platform and almost be an example, 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: you know, to our community of what we can be 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: and you know, and what we should be. 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: But you know, no pressure, no pressure on everybody out there. 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 4: I know it's definitely not easy, and I definitely don't 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: want to make it seem like it's easy even being 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: in that container with someone because you know it comes 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: with the challenges for sure. 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: Well I want to That's why I want to start. 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: I want to start with family because how how old you? 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Howld you? I'm thirty, So as. 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: A young man, you got a family, right, Like? Talk 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: about that, Like talk about to you the importance of 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: having that family and some of the trials and tribulations 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: and how you're actually growing and learning how to become 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: you know, a family man. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: Man. 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: I think I've always being family oriented, you know, just 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: from when I was a kid, you know, barbecues and 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: all of that, like at my great grandmother's house, and 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: you know, I was I was grateful enough to be 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: born into a big family. It's funny because I remember 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: when I you know, I got to like middle school 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: and I started really connecting with my friends and you know, 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: going by their homes and stuff, and I was like, oh, snap, 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: like everybody ain't got a big family, you know. 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: And I started realizing. 65 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: How valuable that was to to be able to grow 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: up in a community that was so close knit and 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: you know, people looking out for each other. So I 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: think that's just something that I definitely inherited from my childhood. However, 69 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that I did not see, 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: Like I didn't I've never been to. I've probably been 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: to like two weddings. 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: In my life. Really, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 73 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: I didn't see any real examples of affectionate love growing up. 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: So even though there was family, even though there was 75 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: like community, I didn't really see relationships. 76 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: Being developed in you know, cultivated like that. 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: So that's something that I took with me into my adulthood, 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: and you know that that's something that I tried to 79 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: create for myself and for the following generation that's coming 80 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: after me. 81 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: You know, you know, my fiance. And it's funny. 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: Because just last night we we like to have meetings 83 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: with each other because we almost acknowledged the fact that 84 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: part of being in this relationship with each other, or 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: part of being in this container with each other and 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: part of cultivating a future with children and goals and 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: stuff like that is you you kind of got to 88 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 4: approach it from a business mind a standpoint. So you know, 89 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: we had one of our meetings, you know what I mean, 90 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: Like usually we get like a we work office or 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: something like that, and we meeting there and we put 92 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: the goals on the board, and you know what I'm saying, 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: We we really plant it out. What's the long term, 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 4: what's the short term, what's the what's the now? 95 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What we're gonna grab off 96 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: the short term. 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: List and attack right now like the next thirty six, 98 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: next part of me twelve weeks, you know. 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 100 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: So it's just kind of like creating what we feel 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: we should have seen becoming that becoming a change that 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: that we want to see. And yeah, man, you know 103 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: it's so dope because you know we're there and it's like, 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: you know, our son is in there, and you know 105 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: he only like four months now, but I'm just like this, 106 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: this is the type of future that we want to build, 107 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: not only for ourselves, before our children where they could 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: grow up being like, oh, you know, Mom and Dad 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: in the meeting room again as a meeting of the 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: minds again, and they part of it, you know, they 111 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: part of it, Like this is what we're gonna do. 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: This is where we headed. 113 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: And I think that's why a lot of relationships today 114 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: are so doomed or they fail because you got two 115 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: people who really don't come together in the line with 116 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: any type of goal, direction or even business plan. You know, 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: you got two people essentially just floating in space and 118 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 4: not you know, it was just caught out rather long 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: time ago, right, It's like I can't even necessarily remember it. 120 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: But the analogy is pretty much like you being on 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: a plane, or you being on a boat, and just 122 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 4: the smallest degree of you. 123 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: Turning one degree this, one degree. 124 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: In this direction, or you know you're turning to sell 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: that direction, you end up somewhere you never even planned 126 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: on going, you know what I mean negatively, you know 127 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: So it's all about mapping it out. 129 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: And you know, cause some people are passengers on their 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: own plane, their passengers on. 131 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: Their own ship, if you will. 132 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: You know, like some people don't even realize that they 133 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: could get into the cockpit or they could get into 134 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: the captain seat insteer the whole thing where they want 135 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: to go. 136 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: So you know, we apply that a lot, and. 137 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: We make sure that we get super accountable on what 138 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: this is and what we're creating and what we ultimately 139 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: want to be. 140 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: How do you pick a person that's in alignment for 141 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: you and can you talk to us about some of 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: the challenges that you guys face and how you work 143 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: through them. 144 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: I think that's a great question. I think that there's 145 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: a series of like call it almost like like, uh, 146 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: there's a veting process, and I think everybody is different. 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: It's all about you have to know personally what your 148 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: value systems are. You know, what what what do you value? 149 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: What's what's of an importance to you? And you know, 150 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: I'd advise people to approach it like a like like 151 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: a business, like if you're gonna sign a contract with somebody, right, 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: you're gonna have non negotiables like, nah, I ain't doing that, 153 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: you know, and you gotta you gotta stand firm on 154 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: what those things are. And I think again, a lot 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: of people jump into these contracts or they jump into 156 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: these situations not even understanding what their terms are. And 157 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: then now you get into this situation and now you 158 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: want to try to change terms and you know what 159 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: I mean, but you already got the other party used 160 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: to nah, like this this is what it is, This is. 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: What we came into, this is what I expect now, 162 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: you know. So I think communication, of course is key. 163 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: You know, you gotta, uh, you gotta speak up for yourself. 164 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: You gotta, like I said, you gotta stay with your terms. 165 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: Are you gotta you gotta, you gotta draw the line 166 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: and you gotta align. 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Most importantly, you know, you gotta be with a. 168 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: With a candidate that you feel like you're gonna do 169 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: good business with, you know what I'm saying, Like and 170 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: I hate to uh make it so I hate for 171 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: it to seem like a transactional thing because it's really not. 172 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: But I do think that the business and mindset does 173 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: align with it because you gotta think about it. It's like, yo, listen, 174 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: we could fall in love, we could be in love, 175 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 4: but at some point we're gonna have to ask each 176 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: other real questions like so what's your like like how 177 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: do you save money? 178 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: Well? What what what what's your what's your money spending? 179 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: Look like, what's what's your money havings? 180 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: Like let's get that out at the top, you know 181 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 5: what I mean, Let's let's let's let's let's change the 182 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: direction of where we're going, Like I like to, I 183 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: like to trim the fact, like, let's get right to it, 184 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not trying to 185 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 5: waste my time, especially you know, me being so intentional 186 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: with what it is that I know that I want 187 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 5: to do, Like I ain't just trying to I ain't 188 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: just trying to play around, like you know, we're going 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: for the long term. 190 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: Then we got to ask long term questions. We got 191 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: to have that long term vision. Make sure that it 192 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: lines like I ain't gonna wait, I ain't waiting. 193 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: Six months to ask what you. 194 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: Where you're trying to be you know what I'm saying, 195 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: or you know, just asking important questions that a. 196 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: Lot of people don't think about. It really hits the 197 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: fair you know. 198 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: So your your fiance, how you ask those questions right 199 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: away with. 200 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 2: Her, Oh listen, I sure did. Did you know? You're 201 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: right to it? 202 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 4: A lot of tough questions at the top, you know. 203 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: And it's funny because a lot of those questions that 204 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: I asked, like I could tell she wasn't used to that, 205 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: you know, she wasn't used to be challenged in that 206 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: type of way, like yo, like what like like you know, 207 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: and and and you know she's it's been so much 208 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: progress for both of us. But yeah, you know, at 209 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: the beginning, and it'll almost be like what you ask 210 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: me these questions for? And I'm like, girl, because I'm serious, Like. 211 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to I ain't trying to play around like. 212 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: You think this is a game. Like I'm serious, Like 213 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: what what do you value? 214 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: What? What do you like? 215 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like just getting really really real. 216 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: I don't got no time to play. 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