WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Countdown - Ep. 1 (3/27) 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:06.680 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, March PM. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.480 On today's episode, we're gonna dive into the draft again, 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:14.080 this time talking about the top four offensive tackles McKay, Beckton, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:19.000 Andrew Thomas, Jeddrick Wills, and Tristan Wharfs. Those are the 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.440 guys that are highly regarded as the Big four and 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.079 should the Jets be in play to get one of 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.639 those guys at eleven. We're gonna break down each of 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:33.000 the players strengths, weaknesses, basically their backgrounds out their respective colleges. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.360 Olivia Land has talked to the Mad Backer Bart Scott, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.080 so will here from her and Bart in a little bit. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.480 But e a another day, another pod here in Jets world. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.880 What's going on the greens Son is out. I think 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.159 we've probably hit what the midway point of free agency. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.840 You know, we always talk about tears. You know, there's 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.760 the first tier, the second tier, multiple waves and things 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.240 like that. The Jets are still going to have to 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.880 add a number of players um along the way here 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.440 before the draft. But it is draft season because we're 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.920 less than a month away until April and the three 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:17.880 Night Day UH Extravaganza begins and and and very unique 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.120 format this year. We'll have to see how that all 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.080 plays out. But Jets sitting there at number eleven in 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.760 the first round, four picks in the top seventy nine overall, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.920 I know you are pumped for the draft, Greens, as 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.319 is everybody in Jets Nation. Yeah. I love the draft, 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.400 and what you know, without further ado, let's just dive 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.399 into it. We're gonna go alphabetically in regard to the 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.360 core for the big four. So up first is the 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.760 big man. That's McKay Beckton out of Louisville. And not 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.360 only is he a big ugly, he's probably the biggest 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:51.360 ugly six seven, three hundred sixty four pounds and oh 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.200 at the combine he ran the forty and five point 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.240 one seconds. You know, Jane Brugler of The Athletic always says, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.360 you look for traits and a guy, and the draft 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.200 is highly you profile guys and no number of ways, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.679 but you think of a guy's traits. Maybe sometimes over 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.840 production and McKay Beckton was productive for the Louisville Cardinals, 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.440 but oh my god, you think about these guys traits, 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.959 they're off the floor. Yeah, agree, in some monstrous man, 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.600 six seven three sixty four. I'll tell you what, I'm 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.240 a little bit under five ten. I'm not even gonna 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:32.280 give out my weight, but I can't run one what 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.560 this guy and what money these prospects can do. It's 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.720 just it is amazing. There's no other word for it. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:47.040 And isn't there the great video of Beckton Donking. You 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:48.880 know this is a guy who can get it up 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.320 and throw it down right. Yeah. Former Louisville head coach 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.840 Bobby Petrino said that he knew he wanted to offer 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.680 Beckton a scholarship when he saw him doing reverse dunks 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.840 in high school. And of course now I mean we 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.720 I'm just gonna say his height and weight again, six seven, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.800 three hundred sixty four pounds. I mean, don't be deceived 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.280 by his height and weight. He's a premier athlete, and 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.240 he's nasty as a finisher. He likes to punish people well, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.360 and that's the thing you keep on mentioning his weight, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:24.200 And I think it's fairer because where the teams envision 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.480 him playing at, not only which side, because he is 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.520 a tackle who started out at the start out on 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.960 the right side for Louisville, but then he started shifting 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.120 over right as his college career went on. Ten starts 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.320 at left tackle as a sophomore and then eleven more 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:49.400 at left tackle as a junior, garnering first team All 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:54.000 a CC honors. But that way, you know it's gonna 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.160 be very interested. I'm gonna be very interested to see 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.880 how teams project him at because when I hear three 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.080 sixty four, a lot of times I'm thinking, oh God, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.640 maybe he'd be better suited for the right side, but 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.560 he played both in college, most recently played the left 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:14.760 side in six seven, means he's awfully long. Um, I 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.240 think he A lot of the traffic pondits, including they 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.960 four mentioned Dane Brewler would say, hey, maybe a little 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:27.440 bit raw, maybe he's got to get more refined, but wow, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.560 what a ceiling. When you're talking about beck then yeah, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.800 I feel like Beckton definitely has the biggest ceiling and 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.240 he's like a crazy athlete. And obviously we'll talk about 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.600 all four of these guys, but in terms of Beckton, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.240 something that you know we'll get New York fans a 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.880 little excited is that at the combine, somebody asked him, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.479 what do you think about New York? And I don't 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.880 remember if the reporter was Jetter Giants. But he said, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.960 I love New York. I love the grimy nous that 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.160 New York basically is represented by. And I think that 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.160 if he he's there at eleven, he'd be in a 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.400 drinking option for the Jets along with the other three 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.359 of these guys and just plugging along here quickly moving 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.400 through these guys. Now, let's head talk about Andrew Thomas. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.040 And I said alphabetical, so it's kind of funny going 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.680 from B T T. But the other two tackles, Jetrick 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.560 Wills and Tristan Worfs, are w guys, So we're going 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.279 to te and Andrew Thomas is somebody that started on 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.159 the right side in his collegiate career at Georgia when 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.480 Isaiah Win, former first round pick of the New England Patriots, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.400 was on the left side, and then once Win got drafted, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.200 Thomas has been the guy at left tackle for two 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.800 seasons for Georgia, and his strength accorded a bunch of 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.760 pundits really come in the run game. And he's another 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.320 guy that's just nasty on the ground. Yes, started thirteen 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.120 games at left tackle lest season Greens and the first 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:53.279 team associated Press All American and of course first team 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:58.040 All Conference guy to in two thousand nineteen, you would 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.400 figure he's gonna come in and be a Day one starter. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.680 But we talked about this before here on the pod 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.840 that it's funny how things have changed in a matter 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.480 of months because because prior to this season, a lot 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.040 of pundits, a lot of pronosticators are taught. We're talking 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.200 in terms of Andrew Thomas is going to be the 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.200 top tackle overall selected, but I feel like these other 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.960 guys have been so impressive with their workouts and their combines, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.280 showing that maybe he's going under the radar. He's long 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:36.720 to Green's six ft five um, thirty six arms um. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.920 You know, he probably gets overshadowed because what other guys 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:46.640 did at the combine, meaning Backton Wills and works. Yeah, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.880 I think that's fair to say and Andrew Thomas. I 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.880 said this earlier on another episode. It's almost like he's 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.440 been under the microscope for longer than any of the 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.440 rest of the prospects at offensive tackle in regard to 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.880 the top guys, So it's almost like you forget that 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.560 he's a good player because he's been analyzed for so long. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.360 But you look at his forty yard dash. I mean 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.400 he's three fifteen and he ran the forty and five 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.800 point two seconds. This is a guy, to your point, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.800 is probably a plug and play kind of guy. And 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.600 what you like about both Beckton and Thomas is that 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.680 they've played both left tackle and right tackles. So in 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.920 terms of the Jets, you know, we don't know where 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.320 or how the front office envisioned somebody like George Fan 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.920 where he's supposed to play or where they project him 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.200 to play or Tomadoga. But the good news about the 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.400 two guys we've talked about so far, they played both 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.480 sides of the line. And in terms of Thomas, I 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.760 just want to say this. You talked about you almost 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.840 forget about that he's a good player. Well, he was 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.840 the first Bulldog to win the Jacobs Blocking Trophy in 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.880 twenty one years, which is awarded to the top lineman 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.320 in the SEC, has voted on by the coaches, and 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.720 this is a conference that had the Joe Moore Award 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.840 in the l s U Tiger's offense of line, which 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.840 is voted the best old line in the country. So 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.600 Andrew Thomas is clearly a very good player. This guy 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:11.960 Andrew Thomas is considered very good in the run game, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.960 and he's got a mller mentality. And the one thing 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.560 I would like to mention about the Jets, as you 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:22.800 mentioned media outlets having George Fan agreeing to terms with 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.520 the Jets and his versatility. We talked about that at 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:30.560 length here on the podcast. Brandon Shell, former Jet tackle, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:36.800 reportedly agreeing to terms with Seattle, as did Brent Quality, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.880 um agreed to terms with the Houston Texans. So Shell 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.800 was your opening day right tackle in two thousand nineteen, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.760 and Quality was slated before he got injured to be 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.880 your swing tackle. So uh, moving parts, moving pieces here, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.400 and remember Kelvin Beecham remains an unrestricted free agent as 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.199 of taping right now. All right, So on the other 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.560 side of Olivia's interview with Bart and I will break 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.720 down Jeddrick Wills and Tristan Worth. But right now, let's 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.439 see what Olivia and Barne to say. The Dynamic Duo 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.360 is officially back. Olivia Land is here and on today's podcast, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.760 I am joined by Bart. Scott Bart, how are you 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 doing a long time? I'm good, can't complain, can't complain 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.120 at all all as well, how has been how has 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.560 the at home treatment been for you? Um, it's been good. Um, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.720 just trying to make the best out of it. Right. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.560 So you're sitting home and what you're doing is you're 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.680 doing things that you normally wouldn't do because you don't 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.040 have the ability to drive around go do things. So 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:38.880 I spend a lot of time with the kids, being 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.920 able to read books, watch you know, been watching Netflix 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.200 all day. You'll spend time with the kids and really 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.719 cook every day. You know. That's that's the big that's 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.559 a big thing. You're cooking three meals a day. That's 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.280 something you know. I have been been a part of 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.200 since I was a kid, with my mom and my 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.640 grandmother making sure that it was no McDonald's. Yeah. McDonald's 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.560 was only on Friday when I was growing up. I 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.679 mean when he was watching Women's watching Only Matters, when 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.160 Arkle was coming on, Mom comes on with the McDonald's 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.280 on Friday. It was our only junk fool day. I 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.679 love that. So you've been You tell me that you've 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.920 been cooking, cooking every day. Yeah, let's see today, Let's 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.040 see yesterday. When I cook yesterday, I kind of you know, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.120 I cooked two roasted chickens the day before. But then 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.480 you know, after works, you just have you just have 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.760 the spare chicken. So what you do is you take 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.880 all the spare meat off, you put it in there, 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.680 you take the grease from it, you make a gravy, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.840 and you make chicken and rice, you know, with the grave, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.720 and then make some biscuits. It's like biscuits with like 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.320 streaded chicken and rice. And did that. Then I made 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.840 some tenderloins the day before. Then we had turkey tacos 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:42.480 the day before that. So I'm not gonna lie. I 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.520 didn't know you had it in you. Yeah, today's making 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.840 Today's man, you was gonna be uh cabbage and and 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:54.040 corn beef. I love corn beef. Yeah, I'm impressed. All right, cool, 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.959 So better see some of these cooking schools when the 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.120 season starts and we get back into doing our next 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.160 gen stats segments. You have to bring some foods we 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.480 can test it. Absolutely. Yeah, let's talk a little bit 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.600 into Jets free agency. I know you've been following the 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:14.560 Jets obviously throughout this entire offseason. It's been an uncharacteristic, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.240 very out of the ordinary off season. We know that. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.720 So a lot of times. The teams have not been 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.120 able to make official announcements yet because of the coronavirus 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.320 and the restrictions of travel. However, we do know that 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.400 multiple NFL analysts around the league have reported a lot 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.320 of stuff that Joe Douglas and the Jets have been 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.800 doing in free agency to rebuild this roster. We mentioned 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.960 it right before we came on the podcast. You said 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.920 that he seems to have added quite a few former 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.040 Ravens players. Would have been some of your initial reactions 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.600 to some of those additions on the squad. Well, just 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.120 the fact that he's bringing god that he understands that 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.920 are important for culture. Um and it isn't you know, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:57.920 Joe dugans for the first time in free agents and 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.640 just recent free agencies, not trying to win the back 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.120 pages and it's not pretty, but these are very quality 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.679 football players that are going to add a lot of depth. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.080 You have enough, you know, splashy players, right, you have 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.760 you have the Jamal, you have most that you have Bell, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.600 you have Donald and so you have enough of those 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.800 type of players. Now you need quality guys. You need 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.920 glue guys. You need guys that you can count on. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.280 You need guys with versatility, and that's what he's been 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.040 trying to do. He brought in a lot of guards 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.640 slash centers to be able to be swing man. I 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.160 think you they still believe in Adoga to be that 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.079 right tackle, maybe even a left tackle. You know, it'll 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.839 be interesting to see where he decides to go in 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.400 the draft, but I say, you know, you continue to 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.719 you continue to build on that left tackle. If it's 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:46.160 a great left tackle there, you solidified that because you know, 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.360 if you don't, Sam doesn't have time, He's not gonna 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.320 be able to take the weapons that he's had so 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.520 far perman. It was sad to see Robbie Anderson leaves, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.800 but Robbie Anderson took a deal. I believe that was 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.959 for himself, betting on himself. He wants to bear to 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.960 prove itself a little bit more with a quarterback. Yeah, 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.640 you know, maybe he hasn't really went over a thousand yards, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.440 so he wants to go. And whenever you see a 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.360 player take a two year deal, they're betting on themselves, saying, Okay, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:11.920 after two years, I want to be back up and 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.000 I'm sure everybody what I can do that I am 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.199 a thousand yard receiver that I can't take the next step, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.320 and it seemed like he wanted to go somewhere where 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.679 he was comfortable with the head coach. You know, it's 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.120 a different relationship you have with your head coach when 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.319 you when you are in college. It's a different relationship 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.560 with junior college coach than you and your professional coach. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.320 And yeah, I wish Robbie well, but when you look 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.480 at Brashad Perriman, you know, great talent evaluators. We all 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.000 give the Ravens, you know, staff and organization a lot 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.320 of credit for their ability to to see talent, and 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.800 they thought Brashad Perriman was worthy of a first round 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.719 draft pick. He's a vertical receiver as well, averaging over 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.679 seventeen point six yards per catch last year. He's a burner. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.160 He may be faster than Robbie with some of his 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.839 unofficial clock times at what four, one, nine and all 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.720 these crazy things. He's a track star. So I think Joe, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.360 you know, I was able to fill that void. But 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.560 he also was able to save some money because Robbie 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.720 is at the tim million mark, Brashod is on the 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.199 eight million dollar mark. Yeah. Absolutely, and we'll see more 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.280 how free agency unfolds a little bit. But you mentioned 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.480 culture with Joe Douglas, and I think that's something he's 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.920 really emphasized throughout his entire time with the Jets so far, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.320 and he's talked about how that is so important inside 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.640 of the locker room. Being a former player yourself, why 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.920 is culture so critical and how large of a role 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.640 does it play on a team? Because, like, like they said, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.240 and remember the Titans, attitude respects leadership, right, So, like, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.160 if you if you have great leadership, you're gonna have 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.000 a great attitude. And sometimes things aren't always going to 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.480 be going for you in the football seasons. You know, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.480 football seasons full of peaks and valleys. But if you 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.520 have high character guys, you have a great culture, you'll 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.000 be able to fight your way out of it and 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.200 be able to rebound. But if you don't, you're just 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.560 going to have an environment that compounds problems. Right that 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.400 what you call people or or teams are uh their 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.320 their fair weather or there you know they're they're front runners. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:05.880 You don't want to have front runners because you know 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.920 the majority of the time things are going to go bad, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:09.800 and you want to have people to have a belief 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.000 that when things get bad or things don't go the 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.440 way you think they're gonna go, they pull together. And 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.400 that's all about culture. That's all about having that family environment. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.080 You know, you want to have your players that pull 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.480 together and not pull apart and fragment inside of a a 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.640 locker room, because what happens is you get clicks. We 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.280 have clicks, then you have division within the locker room. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.480 You need everybody pulling the rope in the same direction. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.600 And that's what the cultures, all cultures basically about leadership 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:39.680 and togetherness and humiliarly, yeah, that makes that makes a 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.160 lot of sense, especially within a locker room, and you 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.880 see the different types of personalities all coming together for 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.520 that one goal. Now, I want to specifically zone in 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.480 on the defense. You a former defensive player yourself, know 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.000 how hard Greg Williams worked with its defense last year, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.400 especially when you think about the run defense. There ain't 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.320 number two overall against the run last year. Now, obviously 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.400 they can use a little bit of help when it 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:12.240 comes to um past defense, but you've already seen Joe 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.360 Douglas takes some of the steps by report saying that 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.400 he resigned quarterback Brian Pool. What other directions. Do you 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.000 think they need to go on the defensive side. I mean, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.440 I see that they brought back George Jenkison. That's a 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.400 good quality pick, right, He's a solid guy, but he 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.800 can't be your dominant pass rusher. You know, I look 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.000 at guys out there like Marcus Golden that's still out 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.640 there that can potentially be a retread. You know. Of course, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.720 the elephant in the room is would you pony up 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.760 the money for gollege David Clowney if that price tag 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.480 comes down. A move like that signals that you have 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.080 you know, next year has to be goal time because 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.480 you can't pay a player fifteen twenty million dollars a 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.200 year and then not expect to be winning or in 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.680 the playoffs. But you know, this is the business wide open. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.840 With the exit, Tom Brady, you know you have an 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.520 opportunity now to to to have somebody out other than 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.880 the New England Patriots as pensylvan as the divisional champs. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.000 So we'll see how Joe wants to wants to go. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.800 You look at Buffalo, looks like they're all in. Miami's 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.000 read too nicely and they still have a lot of 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.840 draft capital. But the Jets, you know, can be right 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.160 there if sound chitect the next step. And that's why 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.040 I said this all season has to be all about 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.080 building around Sam Bronald. We know the defense can be solid. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.919 It can be a top ten defense with the pieces 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.760 that we have. Great Williams is just that good, you know. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.640 You know, do you want an elite pass rush? Yes, 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.240 you know, look at look out there some potential moves 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.639 out there as well. You hear that Brandon Cooks is 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:37.000 potentially available. You know, you know in a trade that 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.080 they want to move them because you know this would 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:40.480 be the fourth time that he moved. But we all 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.000 know that he's a quality number one receiver in his league. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.640 So it's moved to be made. And Joe Douglas sure 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.720 he has a plan in the draft. You know, the 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.919 great thing is if they decided to address the offensive 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.320 side of the ball and get the left tackle with 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.800 the you know, the eleventh pick. It's so many quality 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.480 receivers in this draft right now. You know, everybody wants 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.440 to talk out you know last year, well the two 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.680 best round wide receivers last year came in the second round. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.920 You talk about a J. Brown and you talk about 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.200 DJ Metcalf. You know, these are guys who are picked 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.480 in the second round, So that second round draft pick 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.440 for the Jets, and the fact that you know, Joe 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.840 Douglas was able to flip Lennard Williams into a third 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.240 and a fourth round draft pick if he signs with 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.760 these guys, is another way to move up and down 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.080 the board. Gives you board flexibility, gives you options, and 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:27.760 you know, I think the Jets to be doing well 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.359 if they're able to pick any of those guys. You know, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.040 Joe Dougats has a great eye for for the offensive line. 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.479 We know that, but this is his first off season 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.639 and all eyes on him part. I know that you 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.680 are one who absolutely loves defensive schemes because there have 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.320 been a few times during our Next Gen Stats episodes 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.960 where you've actually walked me through and explained a lot 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.840 of schemes yourself. When you look at Greg Williams, what 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.879 do you like specifically about his coaching style or what 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.080 stands out to you most? Well, what really stood out 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.600 to me most by just kind of breaking them down 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.359 and watch them last year, it was just the fact 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.760 that he's a teacher, right, He's a teacher and that's 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.880 the important part. You know. Um you hear when when 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.320 Joe Judge came in with the Giants, the first thing 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.000 he's talking about was he wants teachers. He doesn't want 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.040 to hear what somebody can't do. You want to see 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.440 what they can do. And I think that's what Greg 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.040 Williams kind of figured out. You look at what he 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:20.840 was able to do with Hewitt, but what he's able 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.520 to do a blessed on what he was able to 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.520 do with Burgess. You know, these guys with guys that 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.879 struggled at first, but then by the end of the 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.960 season you can tell that they have been coached up, 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.560 learn from their mistakes, and you know, it really helps 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.800 you to be able to develop a lot of depth 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.880 because in football, you know, a hundred percent injury rate 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.400 is usually what it is. Right. Everybody's gonna be injured 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.639 or banged ever sometime. But if you have guys that 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.560 you can plug in and now you have confidence in 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.600 them because they were able to play. Now you have 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.480 a guy the c J. Mos, if he goes down 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.000 or if somebody else goes down, you feel confident that 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.320 you've seen these players do it before and perform well. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.320 That's why it's great that he was able to retain 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.160 them and bring some of those guys back. I think 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.080 George Jenkings is a great quality player. He makes the 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.720 plays he's supposed to make, and then now that allows 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.320 you to see if he can take the next step 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.040 as he's on a one year deal, so God's be motivated. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.280 I like the fact that all these deals or deals 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.560 that weren't at the top of the market, but they're 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.760 also deals that they're flexible and you can get in 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.480 and out of them if guys don't perform. Okay, if 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.280 you could choose, when you think about all of the 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.399 free agents that are out there right now, whether it's 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.840 be offensive or defensive, you can choose one top three 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.000 ament to come over to the Jets. Who would you 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.359 choose them one? I mean, I think I think the 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.600