Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, March PM.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're gonna dive into the draft again,
Speaker 1: this time talking about the top four offensive tackles McKay, Beckton,
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, Jeddrick Wills, and Tristan Wharfs. Those are the
Speaker 1: guys that are highly regarded as the Big four and
Speaker 1: should the Jets be in play to get one of
Speaker 1: those guys at eleven. We're gonna break down each of
Speaker 1: the players strengths, weaknesses, basically their backgrounds out their respective colleges.
Speaker 1: Olivia Land has talked to the Mad Backer Bart Scott,
Speaker 1: so will here from her and Bart in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But e a another day, another pod here in Jets world.
Speaker 1: What's going on the greens Son is out. I think
Speaker 1: we've probably hit what the midway point of free agency.
Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about tears. You know, there's
Speaker 1: the first tier, the second tier, multiple waves and things
Speaker 1: like that. The Jets are still going to have to
Speaker 1: add a number of players um along the way here
Speaker 1: before the draft. But it is draft season because we're
Speaker 1: less than a month away until April and the three
Speaker 1: Night Day UH Extravaganza begins and and and very unique
Speaker 1: format this year. We'll have to see how that all
Speaker 1: plays out. But Jets sitting there at number eleven in
Speaker 1: the first round, four picks in the top seventy nine overall,
Speaker 1: I know you are pumped for the draft, Greens, as
Speaker 1: is everybody in Jets Nation. Yeah. I love the draft,
Speaker 1: and what you know, without further ado, let's just dive
Speaker 1: into it. We're gonna go alphabetically in regard to the
Speaker 1: core for the big four. So up first is the
Speaker 1: big man. That's McKay Beckton out of Louisville. And not
Speaker 1: only is he a big ugly, he's probably the biggest
Speaker 1: ugly six seven, three hundred sixty four pounds and oh
Speaker 1: at the combine he ran the forty and five point
Speaker 1: one seconds. You know, Jane Brugler of The Athletic always says,
Speaker 1: you look for traits and a guy, and the draft
Speaker 1: is highly you profile guys and no number of ways,
Speaker 1: but you think of a guy's traits. Maybe sometimes over
Speaker 1: production and McKay Beckton was productive for the Louisville Cardinals,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, you think about these guys traits,
Speaker 1: they're off the floor. Yeah, agree, in some monstrous man,
Speaker 1: six seven three sixty four. I'll tell you what, I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit under five ten. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: give out my weight, but I can't run one what
Speaker 1: this guy and what money these prospects can do. It's
Speaker 1: just it is amazing. There's no other word for it.
Speaker 1: And isn't there the great video of Beckton Donking. You
Speaker 1: know this is a guy who can get it up
Speaker 1: and throw it down right. Yeah. Former Louisville head coach
Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino said that he knew he wanted to offer
Speaker 1: Beckton a scholarship when he saw him doing reverse dunks
Speaker 1: in high school. And of course now I mean we
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say his height and weight again, six seven,
Speaker 1: three hundred sixty four pounds. I mean, don't be deceived
Speaker 1: by his height and weight. He's a premier athlete, and
Speaker 1: he's nasty as a finisher. He likes to punish people well,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing you keep on mentioning his weight,
Speaker 1: And I think it's fairer because where the teams envision
Speaker 1: him playing at, not only which side, because he is
Speaker 1: a tackle who started out at the start out on
Speaker 1: the right side for Louisville, but then he started shifting
Speaker 1: over right as his college career went on. Ten starts
Speaker 1: at left tackle as a sophomore and then eleven more
Speaker 1: at left tackle as a junior, garnering first team All
Speaker 1: a CC honors. But that way, you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be very interested. I'm gonna be very interested to see
Speaker 1: how teams project him at because when I hear three
Speaker 1: sixty four, a lot of times I'm thinking, oh God,
Speaker 1: maybe he'd be better suited for the right side, but
Speaker 1: he played both in college, most recently played the left
Speaker 1: side in six seven, means he's awfully long. Um, I
Speaker 1: think he A lot of the traffic pondits, including they
Speaker 1: four mentioned Dane Brewler would say, hey, maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit raw, maybe he's got to get more refined, but wow,
Speaker 1: what a ceiling. When you're talking about beck then yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like Beckton definitely has the biggest ceiling and
Speaker 1: he's like a crazy athlete. And obviously we'll talk about
Speaker 1: all four of these guys, but in terms of Beckton,
Speaker 1: something that you know we'll get New York fans a
Speaker 1: little excited is that at the combine, somebody asked him,
Speaker 1: what do you think about New York? And I don't
Speaker 1: remember if the reporter was Jetter Giants. But he said,
Speaker 1: I love New York. I love the grimy nous that
Speaker 1: New York basically is represented by. And I think that
Speaker 1: if he he's there at eleven, he'd be in a
Speaker 1: drinking option for the Jets along with the other three
Speaker 1: of these guys and just plugging along here quickly moving
Speaker 1: through these guys. Now, let's head talk about Andrew Thomas.
Speaker 1: And I said alphabetical, so it's kind of funny going
Speaker 1: from B T T. But the other two tackles, Jetrick
Speaker 1: Wills and Tristan Worfs, are w guys, So we're going
Speaker 1: to te and Andrew Thomas is somebody that started on
Speaker 1: the right side in his collegiate career at Georgia when
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win, former first round pick of the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: was on the left side, and then once Win got drafted,
Speaker 1: Thomas has been the guy at left tackle for two
Speaker 1: seasons for Georgia, and his strength accorded a bunch of
Speaker 1: pundits really come in the run game. And he's another
Speaker 1: guy that's just nasty on the ground. Yes, started thirteen
Speaker 1: games at left tackle lest season Greens and the first
Speaker 1: team associated Press All American and of course first team
Speaker 1: All Conference guy to in two thousand nineteen, you would
Speaker 1: figure he's gonna come in and be a Day one starter.
Speaker 1: But we talked about this before here on the pod
Speaker 1: that it's funny how things have changed in a matter
Speaker 1: of months because because prior to this season, a lot
Speaker 1: of pundits, a lot of pronosticators are taught. We're talking
Speaker 1: in terms of Andrew Thomas is going to be the
Speaker 1: top tackle overall selected, but I feel like these other
Speaker 1: guys have been so impressive with their workouts and their combines,
Speaker 1: showing that maybe he's going under the radar. He's long
Speaker 1: to Green's six ft five um, thirty six arms um.
Speaker 1: You know, he probably gets overshadowed because what other guys
Speaker 1: did at the combine, meaning Backton Wills and works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say and Andrew Thomas. I
Speaker 1: said this earlier on another episode. It's almost like he's
Speaker 1: been under the microscope for longer than any of the
Speaker 1: rest of the prospects at offensive tackle in regard to
Speaker 1: the top guys, So it's almost like you forget that
Speaker 1: he's a good player because he's been analyzed for so long.
Speaker 1: But you look at his forty yard dash. I mean
Speaker 1: he's three fifteen and he ran the forty and five
Speaker 1: point two seconds. This is a guy, to your point,
Speaker 1: is probably a plug and play kind of guy. And
Speaker 1: what you like about both Beckton and Thomas is that
Speaker 1: they've played both left tackle and right tackles. So in
Speaker 1: terms of the Jets, you know, we don't know where
Speaker 1: or how the front office envisioned somebody like George Fan
Speaker 1: where he's supposed to play or where they project him
Speaker 1: to play or Tomadoga. But the good news about the
Speaker 1: two guys we've talked about so far, they played both
Speaker 1: sides of the line. And in terms of Thomas, I
Speaker 1: just want to say this. You talked about you almost
Speaker 1: forget about that he's a good player. Well, he was
Speaker 1: the first Bulldog to win the Jacobs Blocking Trophy in
Speaker 1: twenty one years, which is awarded to the top lineman
Speaker 1: in the SEC, has voted on by the coaches, and
Speaker 1: this is a conference that had the Joe Moore Award
Speaker 1: in the l s U Tiger's offense of line, which
Speaker 1: is voted the best old line in the country. So
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas is clearly a very good player. This guy
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas is considered very good in the run game,
Speaker 1: and he's got a mller mentality. And the one thing
Speaker 1: I would like to mention about the Jets, as you
Speaker 1: mentioned media outlets having George Fan agreeing to terms with
Speaker 1: the Jets and his versatility. We talked about that at
Speaker 1: length here on the podcast. Brandon Shell, former Jet tackle,
Speaker 1: reportedly agreeing to terms with Seattle, as did Brent Quality,
Speaker 1: um agreed to terms with the Houston Texans. So Shell
Speaker 1: was your opening day right tackle in two thousand nineteen,
Speaker 1: and Quality was slated before he got injured to be
Speaker 1: your swing tackle. So uh, moving parts, moving pieces here,
Speaker 1: and remember Kelvin Beecham remains an unrestricted free agent as
Speaker 1: of taping right now. All right, So on the other
Speaker 1: side of Olivia's interview with Bart and I will break
Speaker 1: down Jeddrick Wills and Tristan Worth. But right now, let's
Speaker 1: see what Olivia and Barne to say. The Dynamic Duo
Speaker 1: is officially back. Olivia Land is here and on today's podcast,
Speaker 1: I am joined by Bart. Scott Bart, how are you
Speaker 1: doing a long time? I'm good, can't complain, can't complain
Speaker 1: at all all as well, how has been how has
Speaker 1: the at home treatment been for you? Um, it's been good. Um,
Speaker 1: just trying to make the best out of it. Right.
Speaker 1: So you're sitting home and what you're doing is you're
Speaker 1: doing things that you normally wouldn't do because you don't
Speaker 1: have the ability to drive around go do things. So
Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time with the kids, being
Speaker 1: able to read books, watch you know, been watching Netflix
Speaker 1: all day. You'll spend time with the kids and really
Speaker 1: cook every day. You know. That's that's the big that's
Speaker 1: a big thing. You're cooking three meals a day. That's
Speaker 1: something you know. I have been been a part of
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, with my mom and my
Speaker 1: grandmother making sure that it was no McDonald's. Yeah. McDonald's
Speaker 1: was only on Friday when I was growing up. I
Speaker 1: mean when he was watching Women's watching Only Matters, when
Speaker 1: Arkle was coming on, Mom comes on with the McDonald's
Speaker 1: on Friday. It was our only junk fool day. I
Speaker 1: love that. So you've been You tell me that you've
Speaker 1: been cooking, cooking every day. Yeah, let's see today, Let's
Speaker 1: see yesterday. When I cook yesterday, I kind of you know,
Speaker 1: I cooked two roasted chickens the day before. But then
Speaker 1: you know, after works, you just have you just have
Speaker 1: the spare chicken. So what you do is you take
Speaker 1: all the spare meat off, you put it in there,
Speaker 1: you take the grease from it, you make a gravy,
Speaker 1: and you make chicken and rice, you know, with the grave,
Speaker 1: and then make some biscuits. It's like biscuits with like
Speaker 1: streaded chicken and rice. And did that. Then I made
Speaker 1: some tenderloins the day before. Then we had turkey tacos
Speaker 1: the day before that. So I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you had it in you. Yeah, today's making
Speaker 1: Today's man, you was gonna be uh cabbage and and
Speaker 1: corn beef. I love corn beef. Yeah, I'm impressed. All right, cool,
Speaker 1: So better see some of these cooking schools when the
Speaker 1: season starts and we get back into doing our next
Speaker 1: gen stats segments. You have to bring some foods we
Speaker 1: can test it. Absolutely. Yeah, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: into Jets free agency. I know you've been following the
Speaker 1: Jets obviously throughout this entire offseason. It's been an uncharacteristic,
Speaker 1: very out of the ordinary off season. We know that.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times. The teams have not been
Speaker 1: able to make official announcements yet because of the coronavirus
Speaker 1: and the restrictions of travel. However, we do know that
Speaker 1: multiple NFL analysts around the league have reported a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that Joe Douglas and the Jets have been
Speaker 1: doing in free agency to rebuild this roster. We mentioned
Speaker 1: it right before we came on the podcast. You said
Speaker 1: that he seems to have added quite a few former
Speaker 1: Ravens players. Would have been some of your initial reactions
Speaker 1: to some of those additions on the squad. Well, just
Speaker 1: the fact that he's bringing god that he understands that
Speaker 1: are important for culture. Um and it isn't you know,
Speaker 1: Joe dugans for the first time in free agents and
Speaker 1: just recent free agencies, not trying to win the back
Speaker 1: pages and it's not pretty, but these are very quality
Speaker 1: football players that are going to add a lot of depth.
Speaker 1: You have enough, you know, splashy players, right, you have
Speaker 1: you have the Jamal, you have most that you have Bell,
Speaker 1: you have Donald and so you have enough of those
Speaker 1: type of players. Now you need quality guys. You need
Speaker 1: glue guys. You need guys that you can count on.
Speaker 1: You need guys with versatility, and that's what he's been
Speaker 1: trying to do. He brought in a lot of guards
Speaker 1: slash centers to be able to be swing man. I
Speaker 1: think you they still believe in Adoga to be that
Speaker 1: right tackle, maybe even a left tackle. You know, it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see where he decides to go in
Speaker 1: the draft, but I say, you know, you continue to
Speaker 1: you continue to build on that left tackle. If it's
Speaker 1: a great left tackle there, you solidified that because you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't, Sam doesn't have time, He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to take the weapons that he's had so
Speaker 1: far perman. It was sad to see Robbie Anderson leaves,
Speaker 1: but Robbie Anderson took a deal. I believe that was
Speaker 1: for himself, betting on himself. He wants to bear to
Speaker 1: prove itself a little bit more with a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he hasn't really went over a thousand yards,
Speaker 1: so he wants to go. And whenever you see a
Speaker 1: player take a two year deal, they're betting on themselves, saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: after two years, I want to be back up and
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody what I can do that I am
Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver that I can't take the next step,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like he wanted to go somewhere where
Speaker 1: he was comfortable with the head coach. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a different relationship you have with your head coach when
Speaker 1: you when you are in college. It's a different relationship
Speaker 1: with junior college coach than you and your professional coach.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I wish Robbie well, but when you look
Speaker 1: at Brashad Perriman, you know, great talent evaluators. We all
Speaker 1: give the Ravens, you know, staff and organization a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for their ability to to see talent, and
Speaker 1: they thought Brashad Perriman was worthy of a first round
Speaker 1: draft pick. He's a vertical receiver as well, averaging over
Speaker 1: seventeen point six yards per catch last year. He's a burner.
Speaker 1: He may be faster than Robbie with some of his
Speaker 1: unofficial clock times at what four, one, nine and all
Speaker 1: these crazy things. He's a track star. So I think Joe,
Speaker 1: you know, I was able to fill that void. But
Speaker 1: he also was able to save some money because Robbie
Speaker 1: is at the tim million mark, Brashod is on the
Speaker 1: eight million dollar mark. Yeah. Absolutely, and we'll see more
Speaker 1: how free agency unfolds a little bit. But you mentioned
Speaker 1: culture with Joe Douglas, and I think that's something he's
Speaker 1: really emphasized throughout his entire time with the Jets so far,
Speaker 1: and he's talked about how that is so important inside
Speaker 1: of the locker room. Being a former player yourself, why
Speaker 1: is culture so critical and how large of a role
Speaker 1: does it play on a team? Because, like, like they said,
Speaker 1: and remember the Titans, attitude respects leadership, right, So, like,
Speaker 1: if you if you have great leadership, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a great attitude. And sometimes things aren't always going to
Speaker 1: be going for you in the football seasons. You know,
Speaker 1: football seasons full of peaks and valleys. But if you
Speaker 1: have high character guys, you have a great culture, you'll
Speaker 1: be able to fight your way out of it and
Speaker 1: be able to rebound. But if you don't, you're just
Speaker 1: going to have an environment that compounds problems. Right that
Speaker 1: what you call people or or teams are uh their
Speaker 1: their fair weather or there you know they're they're front runners.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have front runners because you know
Speaker 1: the majority of the time things are going to go bad,
Speaker 1: and you want to have people to have a belief
Speaker 1: that when things get bad or things don't go the
Speaker 1: way you think they're gonna go, they pull together. And
Speaker 1: that's all about culture. That's all about having that family environment.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to have your players that pull
Speaker 1: together and not pull apart and fragment inside of a a
Speaker 1: locker room, because what happens is you get clicks. We
Speaker 1: have clicks, then you have division within the locker room.
Speaker 1: You need everybody pulling the rope in the same direction.
Speaker 1: And that's what the cultures, all cultures basically about leadership
Speaker 1: and togetherness and humiliarly, yeah, that makes that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense, especially within a locker room, and you
Speaker 1: see the different types of personalities all coming together for
Speaker 1: that one goal. Now, I want to specifically zone in
Speaker 1: on the defense. You a former defensive player yourself, know
Speaker 1: how hard Greg Williams worked with its defense last year,
Speaker 1: especially when you think about the run defense. There ain't
Speaker 1: number two overall against the run last year. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: they can use a little bit of help when it
Speaker 1: comes to um past defense, but you've already seen Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas takes some of the steps by report saying that
Speaker 1: he resigned quarterback Brian Pool. What other directions. Do you
Speaker 1: think they need to go on the defensive side. I mean,
Speaker 1: I see that they brought back George Jenkison. That's a
Speaker 1: good quality pick, right, He's a solid guy, but he
Speaker 1: can't be your dominant pass rusher. You know, I look
Speaker 1: at guys out there like Marcus Golden that's still out
Speaker 1: there that can potentially be a retread. You know. Of course,
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is would you pony up
Speaker 1: the money for gollege David Clowney if that price tag
Speaker 1: comes down. A move like that signals that you have
Speaker 1: you know, next year has to be goal time because
Speaker 1: you can't pay a player fifteen twenty million dollars a
Speaker 1: year and then not expect to be winning or in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But you know, this is the business wide open.
Speaker 1: With the exit, Tom Brady, you know you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity now to to to have somebody out other than
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots as pensylvan as the divisional champs.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how Joe wants to wants to go.
Speaker 1: You look at Buffalo, looks like they're all in. Miami's
Speaker 1: read too nicely and they still have a lot of
Speaker 1: draft capital. But the Jets, you know, can be right
Speaker 1: there if sound chitect the next step. And that's why
Speaker 1: I said this all season has to be all about
Speaker 1: building around Sam Bronald. We know the defense can be solid.
Speaker 1: It can be a top ten defense with the pieces
Speaker 1: that we have. Great Williams is just that good, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, do you want an elite pass rush? Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, look at look out there some potential moves
Speaker 1: out there as well. You hear that Brandon Cooks is
Speaker 1: potentially available. You know, you know in a trade that
Speaker 1: they want to move them because you know this would
Speaker 1: be the fourth time that he moved. But we all
Speaker 1: know that he's a quality number one receiver in his league.
Speaker 1: So it's moved to be made. And Joe Douglas sure
Speaker 1: he has a plan in the draft. You know, the
Speaker 1: great thing is if they decided to address the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball and get the left tackle with
Speaker 1: the you know, the eleventh pick. It's so many quality
Speaker 1: receivers in this draft right now. You know, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to talk out you know last year, well the two
Speaker 1: best round wide receivers last year came in the second round.
Speaker 1: You talk about a J. Brown and you talk about
Speaker 1: DJ Metcalf. You know, these are guys who are picked
Speaker 1: in the second round, So that second round draft pick
Speaker 1: for the Jets, and the fact that you know, Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas was able to flip Lennard Williams into a third
Speaker 1: and a fourth round draft pick if he signs with
Speaker 1: these guys, is another way to move up and down
Speaker 1: the board. Gives you board flexibility, gives you options, and
Speaker 1: you know, I think the Jets to be doing well
Speaker 1: if they're able to pick any of those guys. You know,
Speaker 1: Joe Dougats has a great eye for for the offensive line.
Speaker 1: We know that, but this is his first off season
Speaker 1: and all eyes on him part. I know that you
Speaker 1: are one who absolutely loves defensive schemes because there have
Speaker 1: been a few times during our Next Gen Stats episodes
Speaker 1: where you've actually walked me through and explained a lot
Speaker 1: of schemes yourself. When you look at Greg Williams, what
Speaker 1: do you like specifically about his coaching style or what
Speaker 1: stands out to you most? Well, what really stood out
Speaker 1: to me most by just kind of breaking them down
Speaker 1: and watch them last year, it was just the fact
Speaker 1: that he's a teacher, right, He's a teacher and that's
Speaker 1: the important part. You know. Um you hear when when
Speaker 1: Joe Judge came in with the Giants, the first thing
Speaker 1: he's talking about was he wants teachers. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to hear what somebody can't do. You want to see
Speaker 1: what they can do. And I think that's what Greg
Speaker 1: Williams kind of figured out. You look at what he
Speaker 1: was able to do with Hewitt, but what he's able
Speaker 1: to do a blessed on what he was able to
Speaker 1: do with Burgess. You know, these guys with guys that
Speaker 1: struggled at first, but then by the end of the
Speaker 1: season you can tell that they have been coached up,
Speaker 1: learn from their mistakes, and you know, it really helps
Speaker 1: you to be able to develop a lot of depth
Speaker 1: because in football, you know, a hundred percent injury rate
Speaker 1: is usually what it is. Right. Everybody's gonna be injured
Speaker 1: or banged ever sometime. But if you have guys that
Speaker 1: you can plug in and now you have confidence in
Speaker 1: them because they were able to play. Now you have
Speaker 1: a guy the c J. Mos, if he goes down
Speaker 1: or if somebody else goes down, you feel confident that
Speaker 1: you've seen these players do it before and perform well.
Speaker 1: That's why it's great that he was able to retain
Speaker 1: them and bring some of those guys back. I think
Speaker 1: George Jenkings is a great quality player. He makes the
Speaker 1: plays he's supposed to make, and then now that allows
Speaker 1: you to see if he can take the next step
Speaker 1: as he's on a one year deal, so God's be motivated.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that all these deals or deals
Speaker 1: that weren't at the top of the market, but they're
Speaker 1: also deals that they're flexible and you can get in
Speaker 1: and out of them if guys don't perform. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you could choose, when you think about all of the
Speaker 1: free agents that are out there right now, whether it's
Speaker 1: be offensive or defensive, you can choose one top three
Speaker 1: ament to come over to the Jets. Who would you
Speaker 1: choose them one? I mean, I think I think the
Speaker 1: I mean the like I said, the elephant in the room,
Speaker 1: it's the elephant, right. I mean, you talk about the
Speaker 1: most dominant players still left and available, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's got to be the Damon Clowney and what he's
Speaker 1: able to bring to the team. But there's still some
Speaker 1: quality guys out there, some corners out there that I
Speaker 1: think that that can really help the healthy Jets out.
Speaker 1: But it depends on how they wanted to decide to
Speaker 1: build this team. But it has to start with the
Speaker 1: pass rusher. And when you think about the pass rusher,
Speaker 1: if they can get Marcus Golden, that's one thing. You know,
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden is somebody that that you know, can really
Speaker 1: help them out. You know, he had ten sacks last year.
Speaker 1: He's a quality, you know, edge rusher. He would be
Speaker 1: great to add if you can't get Ja Damon Clowney.
Speaker 1: But you know, Ja Damon Clowney is the white whale
Speaker 1: that everybody wants. The the issue is where he comes
Speaker 1: down and and and gives not a discount, but with
Speaker 1: the market dictate that maybe it wasn't as robust as
Speaker 1: he thought it was because you look at guys like Beasley,
Speaker 1: You look at guys you know, like Robert Quinn. They
Speaker 1: jumped off the off the field, they dropped off the
Speaker 1: free agency fast. So you know, maybe he'll be able
Speaker 1: to come back and maybe he'll decide to bring his
Speaker 1: you know, his his talents to Gotham City. All right, Bart, Well,
Speaker 1: as usual, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast. Giving us a little bit
Speaker 1: of input on Jets free agency. Hopefully we'll talk soon
Speaker 1: and take care in home quarantine. Likewise, many thanks to
Speaker 1: Olivia and Bard and he A. Let's just keep plugging
Speaker 1: along here with the draft. We talked about McKay, Beckton
Speaker 1: and Andrew Thomas. Well, next up in the alphabetical order
Speaker 1: in terms of the Big Four is the Alabama right
Speaker 1: tackle Jeddrick Wills. And we've talked about versatility before. Well,
Speaker 1: Jeddrick Wills has been a right tackle since high school
Speaker 1: and he protected to his blindside at Alabama, so he
Speaker 1: clearly had a very big role. And to a Taga
Speaker 1: Vloa actually called Jeddrick Wills the Alpha of the old line,
Speaker 1: and a lot of draft pundits have Wills as their
Speaker 1: top rated offensive lineman. Physical dude, nasty street. Great point
Speaker 1: from you Green saying that, oh, he did play right
Speaker 1: tackle at Alabama, but oh, by the way, Alabama was
Speaker 1: playing with a gifted left handed quarterback last season. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to mess with it though,
Speaker 1: because he's so good on the right side. Um, it's
Speaker 1: all a matter of footwork, steps of releases, things like that.
Speaker 1: But this is a guy who's got a tremendous nasty streak.
Speaker 1: He plays with an edge. Um, he pretty much can
Speaker 1: do it all. Uh. Solid run blocker, good past protector,
Speaker 1: great feet, good hands. He's kind of like the total package.
Speaker 1: And then in years past we'd all always say that
Speaker 1: total package has gotta be a left tackle. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: this guy is so good on the right side, and
Speaker 1: like you said, he's been playing it since high school,
Speaker 1: maybe you just don't mess with it. Maybe he just
Speaker 1: comes in and he's somebody's right tackle. I think that's
Speaker 1: an interesting point. And he's six four three twelve. He
Speaker 1: ran the forty and five point zero five seconds. So
Speaker 1: the top guys that we've talked about so far freakish athletes.
Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about Tristan Worfs, who debatably had
Speaker 1: the best combine of any offensive lineman. But I just
Speaker 1: want to say this in terms of I think some
Speaker 1: people out there, fans or whoever may be, may say, well,
Speaker 1: why would you draft a right tackle that high? And
Speaker 1: I'll point to a couple of people. The first guy
Speaker 1: I want to say is a former free agent of
Speaker 1: this class, Jack Conklin, who signed with the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: the eighth overall pick in two thousand sixteen, and then
Speaker 1: you think of somebody like Lane Johnson to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: He was a top ten pick. He's plugging play on
Speaker 1: the right side, and he's debatedly the top right tackle
Speaker 1: in the game right now. So to your point, why
Speaker 1: would you mess with it? It's not I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people will say, well, left tackle is more
Speaker 1: important than right tackle. Well, you know, the way the
Speaker 1: game is shaping up, you gotta be able to protect
Speaker 1: no matter what the position is. So if you think
Speaker 1: Jeddrick Wills is the next Lane Johnson or you think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a top elite right tackle, I don't
Speaker 1: think you messed with it either. I think that's a
Speaker 1: very good point. Yeah, And we went through the mock
Speaker 1: draft the other day. Uh mel kiper uh perhaps the
Speaker 1: first real NFL draft guru. And he's still going strong.
Speaker 1: God bless him. Uh. You know, looking at the flashpoints
Speaker 1: for the tackles, here are the teams that I'm paying
Speaker 1: attention to. Green's Giants of four, Arizona Cardinals at eight,
Speaker 1: wild card, maybe Jacksonville at nine, and Cleveland at ten.
Speaker 1: To the Giants go with the tackle as early as four. Again,
Speaker 1: we talked about it the other day. Arizona receiver or
Speaker 1: tackle seems to make sense there, We don't. It's hard
Speaker 1: to get a read what's going on in Jacksonville right now.
Speaker 1: We know they are rebuilding, but Cleveland definitely has some
Speaker 1: work to do with the line. I would imagine the
Speaker 1: Browns barn a move. They're gonna go with one of
Speaker 1: these guys at ten right before the Jets. That's just
Speaker 1: my hunch right now. Yeah, I think that's fair to say,
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see if maybe Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: and the front office potentially want to leap frog a
Speaker 1: team like the Cleveland Browns if one of these guys
Speaker 1: on the board, depending on how everything shakes out between
Speaker 1: now and then. But let's wrap things up. Who are
Speaker 1: talking about? Tristan wharfs and Worths absolutely blue doors off
Speaker 1: of Lucas Oil Stadium. He's six five, three twenty. He
Speaker 1: ran the forty yard dash in four point eight five
Speaker 1: seconds abroad jump of a hundred. I this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: he you knew he was part of the Big four,
Speaker 1: but it almost kind of felt like he was maybe
Speaker 1: the the odd one out. And after his workout in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: He might be the first guy taken, first true freshman
Speaker 1: to start for Iowa under head coach Kirk Farrence. That's
Speaker 1: saying something considering how long Farrens has been there. The
Speaker 1: other thing to take in an account is Iowa runs
Speaker 1: a pro style offense. He has played both sides, just
Speaker 1: like a few a couple of these guys that we
Speaker 1: talked about today, but last year. Green's more on the
Speaker 1: right than the left. Home tenant tense starts at right tackle,
Speaker 1: three at left tackle. Um listen, state champion, high school wrestler,
Speaker 1: a guy who is tremendous in track and field as well.
Speaker 1: UH gifted athlete. It's funny you speak about the combine.
Speaker 1: I was at his podium session and people were asking him, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you think you gotta get a little bit meaner?
Speaker 1: And the work said, you know, I consider myself a
Speaker 1: nice guy. My mom wants me to be a polite guy.
Speaker 1: I consider myself a nice guy. But listen, accomplished player
Speaker 1: and his athleticism just off the charts. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: a couple of things here. One, he's the first Hawkeye
Speaker 1: to win Big Ten Offensive Linemen of the Year since
Speaker 1: Brandon sheriff in ten. You mentioned Kirk Farrens. He's been
Speaker 1: there since ninety nine, and for Tristan Worths to be
Speaker 1: the first true freshman to start under him in a
Speaker 1: pro style offense, when you think about the kind of
Speaker 1: guys and the kind of nastiness that Ferrens and the
Speaker 1: Iowa Hawkeye program likes to employ, I think that says
Speaker 1: a lot about Worths and his nastiness. And in terms
Speaker 1: of right tackle left tackle, Dane Brugler of The Athletic
Speaker 1: told me this. He said, well, the only reason why
Speaker 1: Tristan Worfs is playing the right side is because their
Speaker 1: left tackle cannot play on the right side of the line,
Speaker 1: so wors has the flexibility to be able to do both.
Speaker 1: And when you just even if you just watch his
Speaker 1: highlights on YouTube or just punch something, and you can
Speaker 1: see how well he moves, which is why he's such
Speaker 1: an intriguing player. And I think that if any one
Speaker 1: of these four is on the board at eleven for
Speaker 1: the Jets, I don't think that they can go wrong.
Speaker 1: And I know some of the other names out there,
Speaker 1: whether it be trade back options or potential trade back
Speaker 1: options or the next tier, you think of guys like
Speaker 1: Houston's Josh Jones, who played in a lower level of
Speaker 1: competition than the guys that we've talked about. You think
Speaker 1: about USC s Austin Jackson, and then even talk about
Speaker 1: somebody that played opposite of Andrew Thomas potentially in round two,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson out of Georgia, Ezra Cleveland out of Boise State.
Speaker 1: But this tackle class is top heavy and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of talent here. If the Jets want to beef
Speaker 1: up their offensive line on draft night, yeah, and the
Speaker 1: chances are I would say good that there will be
Speaker 1: one or two there at eleven. Now, I don't think
Speaker 1: all four are gonna be there. I don't think that's possible.
Speaker 1: We just talked about the Giants. We talked about UM Arizona, Jacksonville, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: UM and and some of their needs and where they
Speaker 1: are as franchises. But I don't think all four will
Speaker 1: be off the board at that point. And no, this too.
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas is not going to go into draft weekend
Speaker 1: saying I have to get this or I have to
Speaker 1: get that. He's not going to construct the roster like that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, these guys, this is a top heavy draft
Speaker 1: tachle class. But I would say to Greens, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people high on the depth in terms of
Speaker 1: round two in three, And you just mentioned a number
Speaker 1: of those games and names, including Josh Jones, and some
Speaker 1: of those players might not be Day one starters for you,
Speaker 1: but ultimately they might project as starters. And when you
Speaker 1: look at the Jets where they're at, go back to
Speaker 1: last year too. Now this was before Joe Douglas came
Speaker 1: in as general manager, but the Jets took Chuma Dog
Speaker 1: out of the USC in the third round. And again
Speaker 1: maybe potentially he could take a leap for you in
Speaker 1: between years one and two, So a lot to play
Speaker 1: out before then. But yeah, I don't remember a tackle
Speaker 1: class like this in a while. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: fair to say. And it's funny that you mentioned. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it seems like right now all four of those guys
Speaker 1: won't be available for the Jets at eleven. But you know,
Speaker 1: with that being said, the receivers we mentioned this yesterday,
Speaker 1: none of them might be taken by the chance by
Speaker 1: the time the Jets draft at eleven. And we'll break
Speaker 1: down the draft between now and April twenty three, when
Speaker 1: the first round is scheduled to go. Obviously will monitor,
Speaker 1: but it seems like all things are pointing that the
Speaker 1: draft will remain April twenty three to April. And that's
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