1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: by my trust in colleague Wes Hodkowitz, coming to you 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field. Unfortunately, Wes to 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: talk about a very disappointing, frustrating, put in your own 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: descriptor thirteen to ten loss to the Cleveland Browns at 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Huntington Huntington bank Field on Sunday. It was a game 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: that was, you know, looking pretty good for fifty five 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: fifty six minutes of the of the sixty or so, 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: but the Packers couldn't finish the deal. And hopefully it's 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: a it's a lesson learned and that you know, it 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: happened early in the season and one like this doesn't 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: happen again. 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my favorite Dom Capers impression here, and 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, let's start with the positives. I won't 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: talk for three minutes like Down occasionally. 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Would, but what I'll say is, Okay, we got time. 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: We do have time. Okay, Packers were in this game 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: and control the pace of this game because of how 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: the defense have played, and honestly, the way the defense 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: played the entire game. They got put in some really 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: bad change of possession change whatever they call it, immediate change, situation, 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: sudden change. Thank you boy, I'm on game the way. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: I learned that one from him. 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a sudden changed situation there at the end 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: where obviously they end up giving up the last four 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: yards on the touchdown, and then also Michael Parsons taking 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: ownership for his jumping off sides and then obviously the 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: past and Djoku and then sets up the fifty five 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: yard game winner by Andre Schmidt. Okay, so what I 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: want to say about this and we we will spend 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: the next you know, twenty twenty five minutes here breaking 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: down what went wrong, why it went wrong, and what 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: the Packers have to do to correct it. There's a 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: lot of sky is falling people and side or inbox. 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: As I was editing it on Monday, I'm sure you 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: were going through it on Sunday night. A couple things 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: to keep in mind here. One, as you led with 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: the intro, this was the first couple weeks of the season. 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: The Packers were two and oh they're now two and one. Unfortunately, 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: everybody else in the NFC North one and emphatic fashion. 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: So you lose some ground there, But this was against 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: an AFC opponent. If you're going to pick up two wins, 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: you want to get them against Detroit. You want to 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: get them against Washington. You wanted to get this one 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: just to get that number three in the win column. 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: But ultimately there's no lingering effects of it beyond the 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: fact that we'll see how Detroit handles Cleveland this week. 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: It will be a stiff test for them. I'm sure 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: the disappointment stems solely from how they lost the game 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: and for the defense to play as well as it did, 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: the Packers to play as clean as they did. From 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: a turnovers perspective, the penalties were an issue all game, 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: no question about that, but they didn't turn the ball 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: over until those final four minutes. That's where everything kind 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: of went awry. So the challenge for the Packers this 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: week as they get ready for the Dallas Cowboys, who 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: are who just got routed by the Chicago Bears, is 59 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: we talk all the time about one game at a time. 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: You beat Detroit, great, you got to focus on Washington. 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: You beat Washington great, you gotta play Cleveland. You gave 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: up a stinker at the end against the Browns. You 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: got to move on to the Dallas Cowboys. That's the 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: challenge that awaits the Packers. Can you put this game, 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: learn from it, but put it out of your memory 66 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: bank and press forward, because honestly, Mike, it was a 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: demoralizing loss. You don't lose that way in the final 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: three and a half minutes of a game and feel 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: good about it. 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: No, you don't. There isn't There isn't anything you walk 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: out of there feeling good about. And and what you 72 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: just described is exactly what I've been thinking in terms 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: of the perspective the approach with regard to Dallas. I 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: think the I think the toughest thing and this. You know, 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: they're professional athletes, professional coaches, you know they deal with 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: these types of challenges all the time. You have to 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: be able to walk in into at and T Stadium 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday night to get and get ready to play 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and absolutely not have a single thought 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: in your mind whatsoever about what happened in Cleveland. You 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: cannot be thinking about it. You have to you have 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: to forget about it. It's like you almost have to 83 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: convince yourself that what happened in Cleveland didn't matter, even 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: though of course it does matter. But mentally, I mean, 85 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: and this is where I mean we talked last week. 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: The trip to Cleveland is the first a stretch of 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: four out of five on the road. You wanted to start, 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, these regular season road trips on a good note. 89 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: It's hard to win on the road in the NFL. 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, just asked the Detroit Lions who came into 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: lambeau Field and had a tough time, but then they 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: really showed up in Baltimore on Monday night under the lights, right, 93 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: So these types of things can turn around, but you 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: don't you don't want to start on the road like 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: this when you have the stretch that's coming up. So 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: going into Dallas, it's going to be, you know, it's 97 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: going to be all about processing this one, learning from it, 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: as you said, but doing so quickly and moving on 99 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: because you can't. You can't linger on this loss. I mean, 100 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: there's so much to fix. In terms of the penalties, 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: fourteen penalties in the game, five of them were false starts. 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: I thought the false If I were to pick one 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: area of the penalties that I thought was the most 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: damaging in terms of the overall performance. It was the 105 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: false starts on offense, because it just seemed every time 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: they had a false start, they put themselves in a 107 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: tougher down and distance situation, and then they weren't able 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: to convert. And then the great indignity is then the 109 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: final false start moves the field goal back five yards, 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: which then mcmanuson's up getting that kick block from forty 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: three yards. If that field goal is less than forty yards, 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't get blocked. I mean, you can play 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: the you know, the ifs and butts and all of that, 114 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, till the cows come home. As my grade 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: school friends used to say. 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: But here's the mine used to say, the cats till 117 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: the cats. 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Till the cats come home. Okay. See if I grew 119 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: up in a rural part of Wisconsin, so it was 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: all about when the cows. 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Come so I grew up in swam. 122 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: Here's here's what I want to ask you, though, because 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: because I think I think the fans, I think the 124 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: fans in some ways might appreciate this perspective. And hopefully 125 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: this doesn't catch you too off guard. It does you 126 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: and I, You and I have you and I have 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: been through plenty of these where whether it's the Packers 128 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: coming out on the winning side of the losing side, 129 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: where these games, these games flip right at the end, 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and something happens in the final 131 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: final seconds, final minutes, whatever it is. My my question 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: to you is was there was there a moment or 133 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: I should maybe the question is what was the moment 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: that you were the most confident the Packers were going 135 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: to win the game when that ultim question they didn't. John, 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, go ahead. 137 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: John Fitzpatrick's touchdown, because I felt like at that point 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: of the game it really was gonna maybe take a 139 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: touchdown to win it. Honestly, I think if the Green 140 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Bay Packers play that entire football game, even though they 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: gave up some explosives there to quinch On Quinchewn Judkins 142 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: on one of the field goal drives, I felt like 143 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: if the Packers made them go seventy five seventy yards, 144 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: the Browns were not gonna be able to get to 145 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: the end zone. I just didn't think the Browns were 146 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: gonna be able to stitch together that many plays without 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: making a mistake or out without a sack or a 148 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: penalty shoot. They got to the one yard line and 149 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: picked up a chop block penalty at that point, right, 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: so like the Packers were making them earn it defensively. 151 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: So when when they got the touchdown to John Fitzpatrick, 152 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was a very important salient moment because 153 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: it wasn't just about that score. It's also that thing 154 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: in the back of the minds of the Browns that 155 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: would think, well, offensively, we can't get anything going defensively, 156 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: this is where things started on ravel for us last 157 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: week against Baltimore. If the Packers got that ten point advantage, 158 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: that's where I felt like, Okay, we're good. The part 159 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: where I started the feel I'm not even joking with 160 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: you about this. The part where I started to feel 161 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: a little bit weird about it was when it started raining. 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: And that had no impact on Maybe it did with 163 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: the Josh Shacobs fumble, I don't think so, but it 164 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: really had no impact on anythings. But when it started 165 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: raining right after the Matthew Golden catch, something felt off 166 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: to me. Then in that moment, I don't know what 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: it was it was, and I don't want to draw 168 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: any comparisons of the twenty fourteen NFC Championship game. These 169 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: are two exactly different things. But it was sort of 170 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: like the the Morgan Burnett going down moment, where it 171 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: was like, boy, if Golden's able to keep his momentum, 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: staying bounds and head up field, I mean, that would 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: have been definitely the dagger, even though I had plenty 174 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: of people in my mention saying that the Fitzpatrick touchdown 175 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: was the dagger. So the beautiful thing about this is 176 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: it's not one specific guy for why the Packers lost it. 177 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: Legitimately was all three phases. It was a few big 178 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: mistakes and obviously the penalties. You can't have ten penalties 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: or whatever it was in the fourth court win. Yeah, 180 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: But to answer your initial question, where I felt the 181 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: best about it was definitely the John Fitzpatrick score. 182 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and see for me and you you mentioned it 183 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: a little bit later on there in your discussion. For me, 184 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: it was the Matthew Golden catch. Now, yes, we all 185 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: were hoping when we saw that, you know that he 186 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: can stay in bounds and get up field and and 187 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: maybe he scores or you know, even if he's a 188 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: little bit off balance but gets upfield, you know, the 189 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: you're getting that much closer to field goal range where 190 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: you could add some points whatever the case might be. 191 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: But with the game tend to nothing, and when the 192 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: Packers were backed up on the two yard line, in 193 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: my mind, I was like, okay, this this is you know, 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: this is a big moment right here, this this series 195 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: just you know, to get one first down and get 196 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: out of this hole. And for Love to hit Golden 197 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: down the sideline down the right side on on that 198 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: third and eight from the four yard line, that's when 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, you know, they're gonna be fine, like 200 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: they've they've got this. But then, as you said, that's 201 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: when it started raining. Then on the very next series 202 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the Packers, the Packers go three and out and punt 203 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: and and Jordan Love is not able to connect with 204 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs on just some simple checkdown throws, and you're 205 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: starting to wonder, you know, Okay, It's like, okay, was 206 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: the rain? You know? Was the rain a factor on 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: how the ball was coming out of his hand all 208 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I don't know, but it was there. 209 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: There there was some weirdness to that. And then right 210 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: after that, the Packers then punt and a defense that 211 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: had been tackling the Browns at essentially the first instance 212 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: the entire game suddenly with I don't know, wet jerseys, 213 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: wet hands, whatever, like they couldn't tackle quin Shawn Jenkins 214 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: on a couple of plays, he slips through when it 215 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: looks like they have the play pretty well defended, and 216 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Browns are in field goal 217 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: range and you're and it's like, okay, they're gonna make 218 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: it a one score, you know, one possession game here again. 219 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: So that was the first one for me. I thought 220 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: the golden catch, they were going to be fine. And 221 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: then the other one is when when Tucker Kraft makes 222 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: the catch and run up the right side late in 223 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to get the Packers into field goal range. 224 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: As I'm live blogging the game, I'm doing I'm doing 225 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: the math in my head with regard to the clock 226 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: and the two minute warning and and you know, okay, 227 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: like you can, you know, you can run this down 228 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: under thirty seconds and and kick the field goal to 229 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: put yourself in the lead. And I thought I thought 230 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: they'd be they'd be fine there as well, but the 231 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: breakdown in protection on the field goal Shelby Harris, who 232 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I was reading in one of 233 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: your stories that he now has six blocked field goals 234 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: in his career. Is just a significant protection breakdown at 235 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: at absolutely the wrong time for the Packers there and 236 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: then and then the penalties again are rearing their ugly 237 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: head on the Browns final drive where Parsons jumped off. 238 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Jumps off sides before the very first snap gives them 239 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: five free yards. And then even if the kicker misses 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: the fifty five yarder, he gets another shot from fifty 241 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: because the Packers had jumped off side on the field 242 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: goal as well, that was going to be penalty number fifteen. 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: That only didn't become penalty number fifteen because the kick 244 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: was good. So it was just the way the way 245 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: things went. The way things went during the game. The 246 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: Packers kept hurting themselves all the way along, and those 247 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: same things hurt them at the end. And so those 248 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: moments that you felt pretty good, like Okay, they're in 249 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: good shape to be able to win this, and it 250 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: just didn't happen. It's just another example. It's another example 251 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: of how every game in the NFL is sixty minutes 252 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: and you just you know, I mean, even thinking back, 253 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: we talked about it. I'm sorry, I'm going on a monologue. 254 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: No, you're okay. I'm actually texting Garrett right now, so 255 00:12:59,559 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: you're good. 256 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, with the construction noise, our building manager, construction noise, 257 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: thank you. But no, like we talked, we talked after 258 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: the Washington game, and Matt Lafleur had even mentioned it 259 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: a little bit in one of his UH press conferences 260 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: a few days after the Washington game that the Packers 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: were very much in control of that game, but then 262 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: suddenly Washington gets a touchdown and it's seventeen to ten, 263 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: and there's still plenty of time on the clock. And 264 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: so a game that you've been fully in control of 265 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: is just a one score game. And if it's a 266 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: one score game with enough time on the clock in 267 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: the NFL, you never know what can happen. Now in 268 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: the Washington game, the Packers answered, yep. They they drove 269 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: back down the field, they got the points to re 270 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: establish the two score lead, and as we talked about, 271 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the Commanders never got the ball back, only down by 272 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: the one score, right, like that actually didn't happen, Well, 273 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: it did happen in the Brown's game. Not only did 274 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: they get the ball back only down one score with 275 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: the interception, but then they got the ball back again 276 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: with a tie score and a chance to win, all 277 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: within the span of the last few minutes, and quite frankly, 278 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: the vast majority of that was self inflicted. That's the 279 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: most frustrating part about it is the Packers did the 280 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: damage to themselves and then the Browns simply took advantage 281 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: of it. That's how I saw that. 282 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: It's a great way to look at it, Michael, and 283 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: I agree with you one thousand percent. There's so many 284 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: different levels and avenues to go down with this game, 285 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: which is why I fully understand and appreciate where you're 286 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: coming from, and no need to apologize the first and 287 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: foremost again looking at positives, I'm just going to try 288 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: to keep extracting positives from this. We once again learned 289 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: that when the chips are down, My goodness, does Tucker 290 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: Craft come through a remarkable job that he did in 291 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: that instance? Yes. First off, you know, Romeo Dobbs draws 292 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: the defensive pass inference, which was really important because with 293 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: the way that Carl Chaffer's crew was calling it, it 294 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: was getting really tight there like any type of incidental contact, 295 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: they're throwing the flag and Packer saw that they were 296 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: able to use that against the Browns, and that instance 297 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: it got twenty yards out of it. But then right 298 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: after that, Tucker Craft takes those low underneath you know 299 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: kind of concepts and he's bowling, bawling through people to 300 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: get downfield and get them in field goal position. When 301 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: they got to the twenty yard line with the way 302 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: that or twenty two yard line, with the way that 303 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: Brandon McManus had been kicking throughout training camp, throughout the 304 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: end of last season, I felt really good about it. 305 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: Then I actually did it. It felt like, Okay, they're 306 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: going to escape this thing. But then again, it was 307 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: the penalties kind of compounding and compounding a near fumble 308 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: that they lost with Josh Jacobs. It's just there was 309 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: always some negative type play attached to it. And to 310 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: bring it back, if I may, with the Matthew Golden thing, 311 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: because you're right, I mean, the biggest thing was just 312 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: getting your tails off of the goal line to keep 313 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: it going downfield, but there was something Again, I don't 314 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: want to make this the Dom Caper's episode, but I 315 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: always remember Dom talking about the percentages of when you 316 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: hit an explosive for over three yards, what your percentage 317 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: chances are of scoring. They're extremely high. So it's not 318 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: that necessarily the Packers should have gotten points out of that. 319 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: But it's like when you get a thirty four yard completion, 320 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: you think that's gonna be kind of what gets Cleveland 321 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: to maybe be on its heels a little bit more, 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: maybe to keep them a little bit more honest, and 323 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: green Bay just wasn't able to extract any more momentum 324 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: from that. Ultimately, there's so many different things you can 325 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: boil these things down to, and there's not one specific player, coach, position, 326 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: anything that goes into this this loss. But unfortunately green Bay, 327 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: it was a multitude of different things happening. Injuries on 328 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: the offensive line, the Packers trying to put their foot 329 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: on the gas pedal when they're in third and three, 330 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: Jordan Love getting picked up, getting picked off, Grant Dell 331 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: Pitt making a great play on the ball but unfortunately 332 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: returning it to the four yard line, and that was 333 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: a short field position that Joe Flacco in this offense needed. 334 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: And then my last point before I'll hand the microphone 335 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: back to you, the Packers hit Joe Flacco ten times. 336 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: If you would have told me they were only going 337 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: to actually sack him twice, both Formershaun Gary, I wouldn't 338 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: have believed you. But Blaco did even though he had 339 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: a fifty five passer rating in this game. Thinks that 340 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: interception by Xavier McKinney before the end of the half. 341 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: What Flacco did is what Philip Rivers did so well. 342 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: It's what Jared Goff at times has done so well. 343 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: He got the ball out quickly, even when he was 344 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: under duress, whether it was a whether it was a 345 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: completion or not. By the way, there was plenty of 346 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: times where he got hit and it was an incompletion. 347 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: It's not like he just got away scott free. Yeah. 348 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: But the inability for Green Bay to get negative yardage 349 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 2: plays out of Cleveland's the offense were struggling as they 350 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: were on the offensive side of the ball. Five sacks 351 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: negative thirty four yards, fourteen penalties seventy five yards. It's 352 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: just it moved the chains on them just too much. 353 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. The Packers made a lot of mistakes, and they 354 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: they made the one mistake in this game. You couldn't 355 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: afford to make which was the turnover giving the Browns 356 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: the short field, and you could just I know, after games, 357 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you go into the locker room, I go to the 358 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: press conferences. We sort of divide and conquer, you know, 359 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: our duties that way to cover everything. You could just 360 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: hear in that postgame press conference. You could hear the 361 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: regret and Matt Leaflets voice over over the play call 362 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: that he decided to be aggressive and try to throw 363 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: for it when in the back of his mind, you know, 364 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: a zone read or play action bootleg and just let 365 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: love keep the ball and run with it, or even 366 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: just the way the defense was playing, you know, hand 367 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: the ball off and if Jacobs doesn't if Jacobs doesn't 368 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: get it, you punt the ball. Make sure they have 369 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: seventy yards, you know, to go for that time touched on. 370 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: All all those things are going through his head, all 371 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: sorts of regrets and everything after the game. But I'll 372 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: say this, I'll ask this of the fans because as 373 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm to get the one shot, as I'm going through 374 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: the insider inbox and answering questions on the plane ride back, 375 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: and then as I get home on Sunday night, and 376 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: and I'm finishing up the Insider Inbox for Monday morning, 377 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: and there's submission after submission of people being so frustrated 378 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: with Lafleur and and how and how this went, and 379 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: so frustrated with Jordan Love and the interception and all that. 380 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: And I get it, trust me, I get it because 381 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: because of all the mistakes that was that was the 382 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: one play that swung the game. But I I just 383 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: I asked, I asked the fans two things here. One, 384 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: just remember that right after the interception, Jordan Love got 385 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: the Packers into field goal position to win the game, 386 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: and the fact that that kick was blocked had nothing 387 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: to do with the quarterback. So that's point number one. 388 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: Point number two. You wanna you wanna understand Matt Lafleur 389 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: better and understand how he processes games and how he 390 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: leads this team. Go to Packers dot com and watch 391 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: the twenty minute Monday press conference. I'm gonna I'm making 392 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: a comment on this on the Insider Inbox for tomorrow. 393 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's best press conferences are the day after a 394 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: tough loss. He dives into all of the details. He 395 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: goes over everything that he has seen. The shortcoming of 396 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: his team, the players, the coaches, everything. He dives into 397 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: all of it, and he gives the media and by extension, 398 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: the fans, the best look into how they process these 399 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: difficult moments, and that twenty minutes on Monday of Matt 400 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Lafuur at the podium answering questions. As a Packers fan, 401 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: it's worth your time to check it out. Just watch 402 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Watch how he talks about things and 403 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: how he has reviewed it and he's processing it and 404 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: getting the team to move on to the next game, 405 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: which is where we started this whole discussion at the 406 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: beginning of the show. Just want to put that out there. 407 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: I love that you said that, and I agree with 408 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: you wholeheartedly on what that Monday press conference is like 409 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: and what a lot of those Monday press conferences have 410 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: been like after difficult losses. Because again, it always goes 411 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: back to it. If you're pointing the finger, there's three 412 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: coming back at you. And Mattlfluor is never going to 413 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: go up there and say, well, this player did this wrong, 414 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: this coach did this wrong. This is why we're not 415 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: succeeding right now. No, it's not about that. It's about 416 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: looking internally at every phase of this thing, and each 417 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: person looking themselves in the mirror and figuring out what 418 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: they did wrong in this The Packers do not lose 419 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: this game if it wasn't for all three phases, just 420 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: like many times you win these games because of all 421 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: three phases. They came up short and they had to 422 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: learn a difficult, bitter lesson. But if you don't compartmentalize that, 423 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: if you don't rechannel that, if you don't focus now 424 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: on what's ahead of you with the Dallas Cowboys, who 425 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: by all accounts are not going to have Ceedee Lamb 426 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: available on Sunday, then you're doing yourself a disservice and 427 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: you're also letting this thing potentially mushroom. That's what you 428 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: have to curb against right now. And the last thing 429 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: I'll say really quickly about the Jordan Love topic, because 430 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: I know again some fans are really they pick out 431 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: that one specific, specific play and again it's a tough situation. 432 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: Jordan said afterwards, he's got to see that defender there. 433 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: You have to be able to figure these things out. 434 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: But at the same time, Jordan Love has played some 435 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: really good football so far this season, and you're seeing 436 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: more of what he looks like as a quarterback when 437 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: he's healthy, using his legs, using his scrambling ability, extend plays, 438 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: not just always operating from the pocket, being very being multiple. 439 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: And the thing that's impressed me the most is, honestly, 440 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: how he's taken charge of the line of scrimmage. Now. 441 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: It's not just that a call goes in there and Okay, 442 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: this is what we're running. It's that he's trying to 443 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: diagnose what the defense has given him and getting green 444 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: band potentially the best look, which is what the top 445 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: quarterbacks have to do with where the game is headed 446 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: and where things are at right now. And the last 447 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: thing I'll say in this topic too, depending on whatever 448 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: else you want to discuss, the Cleveland Browns made a 449 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: lot of plays, and no one ever wants to give 450 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: the opponent credit. It's always about, Okay, well, this is 451 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: what we did wrong, and this person needs to be 452 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: removed and we got to bench this person. Whatever. Harold 453 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: Fannon Junior would not be denied when he broke three 454 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: tackles to get downfield. Quinn Shawn Judkins, after being repeatedly 455 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: stopped at the line of scrimmage, kept his fortitude and 456 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: ended up having more than half of his yards on 457 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: two carries of his eighteen. You know, Joe Flacco showed 458 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: his veteran resolve. There was a lot of injuries on 459 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: the offensive line for the Browns too. They stuck together 460 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: and defensively, you know, Matt Leffleur said this, as far 461 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: as you know, maybe the over look the pieces around 462 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. Honestly, I really don't think they did. I 463 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: think that's him showing respect to the Browns and how 464 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: deep they are with their defense. Green Bay knew across 465 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: the line and throughout that secondary what they were getting 466 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: in the number one ranked defense, and as I wrote 467 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: an Insider Inbox, that defense is going to keep the 468 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: Browns in a lot of games this year. Yes, hopefully 469 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: they do it this Sunday against the Detroit Lions. But 470 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: the fact is is sometimes you do have to tip 471 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: your cap to the opponent. Last thing I'll say, because 472 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: someone said an insider Inbox again, well why didn't Jordan 473 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: Love do to Cleveland what Patrick Mahomes single handedly did 474 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: against the Giants while not recognizing the Giants respectfully have 475 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: the thirty first ranked total defense right now and Cleveland 476 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: might have given up as many yards in one game 477 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: as the Giants, haven't you know, or the Giants may 478 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: have given up more yards in one game than the 479 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: Browns having three. I mean, it's just it's remarkable. Sometimes 480 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: you have to keep perspective on things. The Packers caught 481 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: Cleveland at a tough time. They got Judkins back, that 482 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: was their offense, and it did just enough to get 483 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: the win. 484 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 485 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: It was. 486 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: It was a tough day for the Packers offensive line, 487 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: with the false starts, with the pass protection, with the injuries, 488 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a minute. Jordan Love had 489 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: a couple a handful whatever you want to call it, 490 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: of rough plays, but good defenses are going to do 491 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: that to you and h And unfortunately, the Packers' worst 492 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: mistakes were at crunch time, and and when you make 493 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: your worst mistakes at crunch time, you have no time 494 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: to make up for them. And they almost did, but 495 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: then the special team's mistake with the block field goal 496 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: ends up preventing you from from escaping and and getting 497 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland with with a narrow victory. 498 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, and the other thing is too with Jordan. 499 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: I think that's probably the hardest thing for me to 500 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: swallow about this is in a lot of ways, I 501 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: thought he actually was pitching kind of a perfect game. 502 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: He's dealing with a banged up offensive line, he's not 503 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: making mistakes, he's playing clean football. Then it's almost like 504 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: he walked the batter and then he gave up the 505 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: home run to not only lose the perfect the no hitter, 506 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: but the perfect game, but then the no hitter right 507 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: with the interception, because it tilted everything back in Cleveland's favor. 508 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know if I've ever covered a game. Mic. 509 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: You have a few more seasons ONMBI, but I don't 510 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: know if I've ever covered a game where it was 511 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: so obvious what had to happen for the Packers to win, 512 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: and then for the scenario to play out in which 513 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: they lost the game by those means. And it's not 514 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: that the Packers didn't realize it. It's that they fought 515 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: a really difficult opponent and the Browns just made plays 516 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: when they had to and showed a lot of resolve 517 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: for an oher and two football team. 518 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. There a couple of the topics 519 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: I want to get to, but we do need to 520 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: pay some bills. So first a word from our sponsors. 521 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: Serious XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 522 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: to the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. 523 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven, three sixty five. 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Learn more about all the wonders 533 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin at Travel Wisconsin dot com Slash Wonders. Welcome 534 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted West. We do need to update 535 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: things with regard to injuries. So Zach Tom he bowed 536 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: out of the game after one play. Unfortunately, was not 537 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: able to go when he thought he would be able 538 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: to dealing with that oblique injury. The bad news is 539 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: it was the decision to play him. Matt Lafleur himself 540 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: regretted it the way it turned out that he really 541 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: wasn't up to playing and the Packers had to make 542 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: adjustments immediately because of that. The good news is it 543 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he did anything worse or did any 544 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: additional damage as far as as far as the injury 545 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: is concerned. But where that leaves him as far as 546 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: his status for this week, with the bye week coming 547 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: up and all that, we'll just have to see how 548 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: that shakes out. Left guard Aaron Banks also left the 549 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: game at halftime with a groin injury, which Lafleur indicated 550 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: was not the same injury, the same one yeah with previously, 551 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: so so that is certainly concerning. And then Javon Bullard 552 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: is in the concussion protocol a very I guess you'd 553 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: say hard helmet contact there in the fourth quarter of 554 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: that game. Fortunately, after Bullard was down for a while, 555 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: he got up, he was able to walk off the 556 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: field under his own power and everything, so that was 557 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: good to see. But he is in the concussion protocol. 558 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: At this point, you mentioned Tucker Kraft, It sounds like 559 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: he came out of the game no worse for where 560 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: which is good. 561 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's the paper of records. Since the last 562 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: time we shot this, Tuckercraft suffered a knee injury in practice, 563 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: was questionable for the game and then ends up starting. 564 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: A game that happened after our second show last week. 565 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I forgot all about it. 566 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 2: So Packers have a major injury scare. He's questionable and 567 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: then ends up paying eighty eight percent of the offensive 568 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: snaps and it sounds like came out of the game good, 569 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: So kudos A Tucker. 570 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: Craft came out of the game okay. And then DeVante Wyatt, 571 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: whose injury I'm not sure what it is. It hasn't 572 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: been specified. Apparently he left very late in the game 573 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: on Sunday, but Matt Leffler said that he is day 574 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: to day, so nothing of nothing of any long term 575 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: concern there. You mentioned it quite a bit earlier. Everybody 576 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: else in the NFC North one over the weekend. So 577 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: the standings right now in the division, Packers, Lions, and 578 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: Vikings are all two and one. The Chicago Bears are 579 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: one and two. Minnesota gets a romp of a victory 580 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz stepping in for JJ McCarthy. The Detroit 581 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: Lions maybe across the board in the NFL as far 582 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: as the first three weeks are concerned, the Lions might 583 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: have posted the most single impressive victory in the NFL 584 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: so far with going into Baltimore on a Monday night. 585 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: Six seven, six seven. 586 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I got some thoughts on that, going into Baltimore on 587 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: a Monday night, rushing for over two hundred yards, sacking 588 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson seven times, yep, and putting up thirty eight points. 589 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: The thirty eight to thirty final score does not really 590 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: indicate how much Detroit took command of this game in 591 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: the fourth court and really put the Ravens away. Just 592 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: a really impressive performance by Detroit. That is a team 593 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: that I mean, They've now scored what would that be, 594 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: ninety points in two games since the Packers defense gave 595 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: them all they could handle in Week one here at 596 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. So plenty to watch moving forward there. And 597 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: then yeah, the Bears get off the schneid benjam And 598 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: gets his first win as a head coach. They take 599 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: it to the Dallas Cowboys. We'll talk about this more 600 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: on our next show, but the Cowboys are going to 601 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: take the field Sunday night against Green Bay with something 602 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: to prove, because they walked out of Chicago like wondering 603 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: what in the world hit. 604 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: Them in Banga. Frankly, yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting 605 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: to see what happens this week. We already got what 606 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 2: was the Trebon Diggs I think is also banged up 607 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: for them. 608 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: And Booker on the offensive Booker was on the offensive line, 609 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: is also going to be out in this game. 610 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: And we don't know where things are at with Kenny 611 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: Kenny Clark as the ankle injury coming out of that, 612 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: There's really been no update on there. In addition to 613 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: the fact that, as I mentioned early on, Ceedee Lamb 614 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: not gonna be playing this game because of a high 615 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: ankle spraint. Okay, time for Wes's litany of thoughts. First 616 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: and foremost, I need the Cleveland Browns from last week 617 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: to show up against the Detroit Lions. Okay, this weekend. 618 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: I need whatever the heck that was that the Baltimore 619 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: Ravens put on the field. I need that to show 620 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: up in December against Green Bay. The Baltimore Ravens defense 621 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: is not the Baltimore Ravens defense anymore. That was embarrassing. 622 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: They just collapsed at fourth quarter, they completely fell apart defensively. 623 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: I never have seen anything. I think the Ravens are 624 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: they dead last now in rankings for total defense? Yeah 625 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: they are. If you had ever told me there was 626 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: a day that the Baltimore Ravens four hundred and nine 627 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: point five yards allowed and they played Cleveland, they played Cleveland. 628 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: My goodness, if they played any other team other than 629 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: the Browns right now, what that could potentially be? So 630 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: and then there's these fumbling issues now with Derek Henry. 631 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Henry can't hang out of the ball, 632 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson taking taking way too many sacks and the bolt. 633 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it just it boggles my mind that a 634 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: John harbaughd defense just gave up over two hundred yards 635 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: rushing in a game. I'm completely flabbergasted. 636 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, not that this matters. No 637 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: one cares except for me, David Montgomery. That last touchdown, yep, 638 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: caused me to lose my fantasy football game. So thank 639 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: you Baltimore defense. Yeah, it is what that's a different 640 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: topic for a different day. But yeah, I mean the 641 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: NFC north Man, I think I said it right after 642 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: the Packers beat the Lions that's a big win because 643 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: you don't know how many teams are going to beat 644 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: the Lions the season, so you got to take care 645 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: of business when you're the team playing them. I absolutely 646 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: love this ongoing storyline though, with the fact that whoever 647 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings trot out there at quarterback, Kevin O'Connell 648 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: and that person make it work. And now, mind you, 649 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things going on in Cincinnati. There's 650 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: a lot of issues right now on that team on 651 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. But Carson Wentz is a 652 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: guy that time and time again has been left for 653 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: dead by this league. For him to come in almost 654 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: in a Molik Willis type role, this guy was not 655 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: here during the offseason. He was not planning to be 656 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: their number two quarterback to JJ McCarthy, and for him 657 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: to play as well as he did, you salute him 658 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: for that. In Caleb Williams, in Romadunza, Luther Burden, they 659 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: got something there. I'm curious how much of that is 660 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: the Bears and how much of it is Dallas Is 661 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: and really the doldrums of their defense right now. 662 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that defense is struggling, but. 663 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: You gotta beat the team that's in front of you. 664 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: And what did I tell you last week when I 665 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: said there was a must win game? I felt like 666 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: that Bears game was a must win game for Chicago 667 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: and Ben Johnson and they responded. 668 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing before we go. There are a handful 669 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: of three and oh teams right now in the NFL. 670 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: In the NFC, it's the San Francisco forty nine Ers, 671 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: it's the Philadelphia Eagles. And I feel like I'm forgetting 672 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: one other one in the NFC, who's three and oh 673 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yes, so the Buccaneers have 674 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: won all three games in the final minute, which is 675 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: kind of hard to believe, but they are three and oh. 676 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: And then in the AFC you have the Buffalo Bills 677 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: and again somebody I'm forgetting. 678 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: Very easy to forget just based on the same Indianapolis 679 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: Colts and the Chargers and the But I mean the Colts. 680 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Are three and oh. See I didn't write them down 681 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: before I came in here. 682 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: Shane Strike, and I mean what they've done there with 683 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. 684 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: My question to you, is there a three and oh 685 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: team amongst that half dozen or whatever the number is, 686 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: that's three and oh across the league. That is the 687 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: most impressive to you right now? 688 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh, it's definitely Philly, but I gotta look here, sorry, 689 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: has the buccaneer? Oh yeah, the Buccaneers beating the team 690 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: that has a win. Yet they did they beat Atlanta 691 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: because I mean, the Buccaneers are kind of beating up 692 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: on the teams that are really struggling right now. But hey, 693 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: you gotta win the games. I mean, Houston's oh to three, 694 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: and obviously, yeah, Atlanta's one and two. So they beat 695 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 2: a team that has a win, So that's cool. But yeah, 696 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 2: I mean, the fact of the matter is Jim Harbaugh 697 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: has the mightiest touch and it seems like he's unlocked 698 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: justin Herbert, And I'm excited to watch the Chargers this season, 699 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: especially since the r Realers and he cross over there 700 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: with Green Bay. It's gonna fun to watch them. But 701 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: Philly does what Philly does, and they're so darn athletic 702 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. 703 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: They're down twenty six to seven ad home to the Rams, 704 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: and they came all the way back and won that 705 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: game and then sunctuated it with a blocked field goal 706 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: return for a touchdown. A field goal that would have 707 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: given the Rams the victory, and it just ended up 708 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: giving Philly a larger margin of victory with the touchdown 709 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: at the end. 710 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: I got to do something I never do on this 711 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: show because it is your show. We all know that. 712 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 2: I am told and reminded by our digital apartment, Jen 713 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: Stone or Jen Ward, Bryan, Lauren Stone Anderson and Nicole 714 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 2: tim that this is your show and it's not my show. 715 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: But what I'll say is this the Packers, We're going 716 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 2: to move it forward here. We talked a lot about 717 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: where they came up short last week. I want to 718 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: just say a couple things. In addition to the fact 719 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: that Shaun Gary had two more sacks and I think 720 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: might be in the league lead four and a half 721 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: reasons for hope for the Green Bay Packers. Okay, fans, 722 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: are you ready for this? After Week three? Third right 723 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: now in total yards two hundred and thirty two point 724 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: three yards per game, Third against the run sixty four 725 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: point three yards. They gave up fifty two to Judkins 726 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: in two plays. Could you imagine if they would have 727 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: held that down too? Passing yards there? Seventh with one 728 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: sixty eight, But they're first in the league. In passing 729 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: yards per play, which I actually think is the more 730 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: important stat because it doesn't take into account all the 731 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: garbage time. Hey, you're playing back in zone four point 732 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 2: three to one yards per play. You have to do better. 733 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: Obviously with the takeaways. They're looking at that right now, 734 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: fourteen point seven points allowed per game, Michael, that is 735 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: the best in the National Football League. And I could 736 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: go on and on and on as far as where 737 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: Green Bay is at right now and things to like, 738 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: pretty much in the top ten for red zone, third downs, 739 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: goal to go. Why does that matter? Because the green 740 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: Bay Packers have a defense. They got to make fewer mistakes, 741 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: They got to clean up these penalties. But my goodness, 742 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: they have a defense in this game against the Browns. 743 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: Result notwithstanding, it reminded you that there's going to be 744 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: a time again this season where they're going to need 745 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: to lean on their defense to win a low scoring ballgame. 746 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: And if they can stay healthy, they got the guys 747 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: to do it. 748 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, your show have Defense will travel with that. We'll 749 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 750 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 751 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: team continually on Packers dot Com. For west Iimmike, thank 752 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Everybody, We will see you next time.