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Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

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Speaker 2: You know that old saying, when in Rome, do as

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Speaker 2: the Romans do. That's great advice for international travel, but

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Speaker 2: it doesn't apply when you're being attacked by a rabid fox.

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Speaker 2: Earlier this month, a Virginia woman named Shirley Phillips was

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Speaker 2: standing in her driveway when she felt something fuzzy brush

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Speaker 2: up against her leg. She assumed it was the neighbor

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Speaker 2: cap that liked to nap under her vehicle, until she

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Speaker 2: felt the teeth sink right into her heel. She looked

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Speaker 2: down and said, quote, that ain't no cap. She was right.

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Speaker 2: A gray fox was attacking her leg, and when she

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Speaker 2: reached down to fend it off, it latched onto her

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Speaker 2: finger and wouldn't let go. So she decided to fight

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Speaker 2: fire with the fire. She grabbed the fox by the

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Speaker 2: scruff of its neck with her other hand and sank

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Speaker 2: her teeth into its ear. Not accustomed to being bitten

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Speaker 2: by humans, the fox began to release its grasp, Phillips

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Speaker 2: was able to pry its jaws off her finger, set

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Speaker 2: it in her car, and close the door. When officers arrived,

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Speaker 2: they found the fox pacing around the front seats of

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Speaker 2: the car and attacking the door handle. They managed to

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Speaker 2: secure the fox with a catch pole, take it to

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Speaker 2: positive for rabies, and Phillips began the four dose rabies

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Speaker 2: vaccine treatment. She sustained cuts all over her ankles and

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Speaker 2: fingers along with eleven stitches, but is expected to be okay.

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Speaker 2: This week, We've got the Constitution, cyanide, sharpshooters, and so

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Speaker 2: much more. But first, I'm going to tell you about

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Speaker 2: my week, and you know, I'm going to backtrack on

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Speaker 2: what I said last week and tell you more about

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Speaker 2: Conniatt Ohio and the muster in the marsh and hanging

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Speaker 2: out with all these awesome folks that it came out

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Speaker 2: to support BAH, some of whom were from the Ohio

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Speaker 2: Department of Natural Resources. Learned a lot about issues and

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Speaker 2: good things that are happening in Ohio, including some much

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Speaker 2: needed and super cool, pretty darn large public land acquisitions,

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Speaker 2: lots of working land components, there, so nothing to be

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Speaker 2: afraid of, and it just adds more access and opportunity

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Speaker 2: for as I found out, the people of Ohio who

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Speaker 2: love to hunt and fish, angle trap, they kind of

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Speaker 2: do it all over there. Lots of foraging. They're taking

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Speaker 2: advantage all the things out there around that Greater Lake

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Speaker 2: Erie region. It's super super cool to see. So again,

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Speaker 2: big thank you to the moonshiners, the brewers, the trappers,

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Speaker 2: the anglers, the knife makers, and the snap and turtle

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Speaker 2: skinners that showed up out there and taught us all

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Speaker 2: about what they did. Super super cool. Big thanks to

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Speaker 2: Covered Bridge outfitter who have a bunch of cool stuff

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Speaker 2: going on. If you like to shoot geese or hunt

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Speaker 2: bucks or fish for a variety of species out there,

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Speaker 2: real cool folks, cool operation. Certainly some folks in the

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Speaker 2: guide shack there that remind me of me, which was

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Speaker 2: cool to see how some things don't change and for

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Speaker 2: the better. I'm talking about got to do some angling

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Speaker 2: out there on big Lake Erie. It's really phenomenal to

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Speaker 2: be on a body of water like that. Even though

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Speaker 2: Lake Erie is not one of the biggest Great lakes,

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Speaker 2: but man, you know how big the Great lakes are.

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Speaker 2: On paper, but they just blow you away when you're

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Speaker 2: out there on the water. So really really cool. Thanks

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Speaker 2: again to all the good folks in Ohio and the

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Speaker 2: folks that came across the Pennsylvania line, and the West

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Speaker 2: Virginia folks, and the Virginia folks and the Kentucky folks,

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Speaker 2: including my long lost good buddy Kevin Murphy. He came

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Speaker 2: up to represent small Game Nation and folks who like

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see everybody next year. Hopefully I make

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Speaker 2: that happen. For more information on backcountry hunters and anglers,

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Speaker 2: head on over to backcountry hunters dotorg. Anyway, lots cover.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna hit the law enforcement desk first. A

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Speaker 2: Virginia man issuing the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources along

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Speaker 2: with three individual game wardens for what he says was

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Speaker 2: says game wardens ignored no trespassing signs, entered his thirty

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Speaker 2: Highlander has not been charged or cited with any wildlife crimes,

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Speaker 2: and the DWR has yet to return his camera. His lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: He says such actions violate his rights under the Virginia

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Speaker 2: the case, citing the pending lawsuit, but wardens in Virginia,

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Speaker 2: like wardens in many states, are permitted to trespass onto

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Speaker 2: This term comes from a nineteen twenty four case called

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Speaker 2: Hester v. United States, in which the Supreme Court ruled, quote,

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Speaker 2: the special protection accorded by the Fourth Amendment to the

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Speaker 2: people in their persons, houses, papers, and effects is not

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Speaker 2: extended to the open fields law. Enforcement officers of all

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Speaker 2: kinds need a warrant to search a house and the

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Speaker 2: The Virginia State Supreme Court echoed that U S Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court decision in a nineteen twenty three case called mcclannan v.

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Speaker 2: Chaplain Highland and his team acknowledged this precedent, But they

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Speaker 2: want I want the court to overturn those previous decisions.

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Speaker 2: They say, these one hundred year old rulings flout the

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Speaker 2: clear meaning of state and federal constitutions, ignore the framer's

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Speaker 2: historical aversion to unconstrained searches of private property, and disregard

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Speaker 2: the common law. They say these decisions were a quote

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Speaker 2: wrongly decided and should be overruled. If this scenario sounds familiar,

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Speaker 2: there's a reason. Back in episode one fifty three, we

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Speaker 2: covered a similar case out of Tennessee. In that case,

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Speaker 2: a court ruled that game wardens were not allowed to

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Speaker 2: enter private property to prosecute a wildlife baiting investigation. The

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Speaker 2: judge's opinion declared that the Tennessee law upholding the open

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Speaker 2: field's doctrine leads to quote intolerable risk of abusive searches

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Speaker 2: and is unconstitutional, unlawful, and unenforceable. It's worth noting that

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Speaker 2: a legal outfit called the Institute for Justice is behind

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Speaker 2: both of these lawsuits. They're bringing these cases as part

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Speaker 2: of their quote project on the Fourth Amendment, which seeks

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Speaker 2: secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. Now, if you're of age, okay,

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Speaker 2: and you're in school, and you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 2: as like some required listening material for certain courses. You know,

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Speaker 2: belated Independence Day, by the way. But it's also true that,

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Speaker 2: unlike in other parts of the world, landowners do not

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Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. Wildlife is owned by the public

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Speaker 2: in the good old United States, not each private entity.

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Speaker 2: So it makes sense that game wardens would be able

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Speaker 2: the tug of war here. Private property is sacred in

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Speaker 2: the United States, for sure and certain, but so is

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Speaker 2: our wildlife. Now we're waiting for more details to emerge.

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Speaker 2: In this particular case, game wardens were on Highland's property

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Speaker 2: because just a few hours before they had cited Hyland's

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Speaker 2: brother for hunting turkey over bait. Highland had a food

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Speaker 2: it makes me think there might be more to this story. Still.

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Speaker 2: to actually take someone's possessions. The Virginia Bill of Rights

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Speaker 2: be secure in their quote persons, houses, papers, and effects.

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Speaker 2: they would qualify. Supreme courts in Montana, Mississippi, New York, Oregon, Vermont,

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Speaker 2: context again, the case that removed the ability for game

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Speaker 2: wardens to access private property under the open fields doctrine

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Speaker 2: here in Montana was a real deal poaching case of

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Speaker 2: a trophy bill elk in a very hard to raw unit,

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Speaker 2: something that people who like to hunt are very sensitive to.

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Speaker 2: In that particular instance, you know, it really sucks for

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Speaker 2: And that's where the open fields doctrine is a big

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Speaker 2: is the Australians. They have some amazing native bird species

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Speaker 2: are being threatened by feral cat predation. That's why the

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Speaker 2: State of Western Australia has decided to unleash a new

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Speaker 2: kiddies on the landscape. The machine, cleverly named the Felixer,

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Speaker 2: will be deployed throughout the state. According to the newspaper

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Speaker 2: Western Australia Today, the Felixer identifies feral cats from their

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Speaker 2: silhouette and their gait and fires a sticky gel shot

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Speaker 2: containing eight milligrams of ten eighty poison. Ten eighty poison

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Speaker 2: is a colorless salt that tastes like sodium chloride and

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Speaker 2: is commonly used as a rodenticide. Cats are obsessed with

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Speaker 2: self grooming, so the felines ingest the poison when they

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Speaker 2: lick the sticky substance off their fur self. Grooming traps

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Speaker 2: are supposedly more effective than traditional devices because cats can

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Speaker 2: be hesitant to take bait or enter traps. The box

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Speaker 2: like machine also plays audio lures to attract cats, which

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Speaker 2: I assume are similar to predator calls. The Western Australian

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Speaker 2: government has worked with the Felixer for years to ensure

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Speaker 2: it won't harm non target animals, and they're apparently satisfied

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Speaker 2: with the results. The first comprehensive efficacy trial of the

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Speaker 2: device successfully targeted seventy two cats without killing any native bilbies, birds, qualls,

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Speaker 2: rabbits or batoks. It did kill one kangaroo, but researchers

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Speaker 2: detected a sixty six percent reduction in feral cat activity

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Speaker 2: six weeks, researchers found that two thirds of the fifty

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Speaker 2: while the device is not perfect, it does have a

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Speaker 2: much higher target specificity than traps. Traditional traps can control

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Speaker 2: bag listener Kenyan Harris wrote in this week with some

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Speaker 2: of the news from his neck of the woods, Tigak,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina. The city council recently voted to hire sharpshooters

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Speaker 2: to reduce the area's deer population. There are almost nine

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Speaker 2: of Charlotte, and city leaders worry about traffic accidents, damage

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Speaker 2: golfing and gardening. In all seriousness. Too many deer in

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Speaker 2: Natural Resources for a permit to hire sharpshooters. The idea

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Speaker 2: city should sterilize the deer population, which would totally work

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Speaker 2: and not be a giant black hole to taxpayer dollars. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: city leaders never even considered giving local bowhunters a crack

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Speaker 2: The city council would only have to look a little

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Speaker 2: Don't ask me why they're golfing cohorts. My buddy Kelsey

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Speaker 2: Even though we give golfers a lot of crap here

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Speaker 2: That's all I've got for you this week. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to you next week.