1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Matt and today we're asking the question, is it dumb 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: to buy a house when the market's hot? Yeah? Man, 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: So in our lives oftentimes we make some really dumb mistakes. 5 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: But we want to make sure that today, after listeners 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: listen to this episode, that they're not going to make 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: a dumb decision when it comes to purchasing a home. 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna answer the question today if it makes sense, 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: if it's dumb to purchase a home today given how 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: hot the market is. I think we've got a lot 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: of listeners today who might be asking that very questions, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to get to that one today. Yeah man, 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot of questions to pop up 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: into people's minds. One, whether they should even be considering 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: buying a home will cover that, and then too, like 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: if you're like, no, I'm really interested despite the high prices. 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: There are some different ways you need to go about 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: the purchase of a home, Like buying a home has 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: changed a lot in the past ten years, and so 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: you need to react accordingly. If you do want to 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: buy a home in this market. Will kind of give 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: our thoughts on the whole kitten caboodle today on the 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: show That's Right, Dude. But first I wanted to talk 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: about my no penalty c D. So about a year ago, 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: we answered a listener question who was asking about certificates 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: of deposit and whether or not it made sense to 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: to jump on those, and given the dropping interest rate 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: that banks were paying out, we said that yes, it 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: was a good idea, and that's actually some advice that 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: I took myself. I realized that, man, I had this 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: chunk of money sitting there in my savings account, and 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: instead I could put it into a no penalty c 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: D H in order to earn a little bit more money. Jill, 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: it turns out you and I were right. Rates did 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: continue to drop and I was able to earn one 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: point three percent over the last year on that chunk 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: of money, so a whole lot better than what everyone 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: else was learning pitally saving US accounts. But the downside 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: now is that that CD has matured. But one of 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the options that Ali had presented to me was that 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: it was it could automatically roll over into a new 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: penalty free c D at point five percent, which is 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: nearly as good I mean that's it's kind of a 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: bummer when you were earning one point three and now 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, well we'll give you, you know, point five. 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: That's not something I'm interested in. Uh. So it got 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: me looking around online a little bit. Uh And I 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: found an account, dude, where I could easily slide over 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars, so a chuck of my emergency fund. 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Uh And if you leave that money there within that 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: account for sixty days, they're paying three hundred bucks. And 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: so I did the math, and that's actually two percent 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: on that money over those sixty days. That's pretty good. 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: That's yeah, two percent over two months. I mean it's 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: way better than point five percent over twelve months. Right. Yeah, 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: And I'm guessing you found that on the website Doctor 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: of Credit dot com, which does an amazing job detailing 58 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: all of the best say muse accounts sign of bonuses 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, that's right, man. They've got like sixty 60 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: different options out there that are state specific, so they're 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: incredibly thorough. Will link to them in our show notes. 62 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, for folks out there who have emergency fund 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: and you don't expect that you're gonna need it, anytime soon. 64 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: A no penalty CD might be a way to go, 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: but also it might make sense for you to consider 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: another bank. A lot of the different online institutions are 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: offering these sign up bonuses, UH and ngel, like you 68 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: found you actually signed up for one of these accounts. 69 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: I guess Las Year a couple of years ago, and 70 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: you liked it so much that you kept the account, 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: and so that's actually an account that you use, and 72 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: so I don't know, it makes me feel better about 73 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: taking advantage of certain bonuses because there's you know, we're human, 74 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: there's a chance that we might be swayed by that 75 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: offer and stick around when you over through great service 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: and just like a wonderful website and looking like that, 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what they want, right, Like they know 78 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some folks who are who are there 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: for the easy money. That may or may not be me, 80 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: we'll see, but yeah, if you like the company, you 81 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: might stick around. And that's what they're going for. They're 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: looking for new customers, that's right. So all right, well, 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: congratulations on being able to make more. I know that 84 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: was probably a bummer, like ends and you're like, no, yes, 85 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: you don't want that to end because you can't get 86 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: anywhere near that certainty of an interest rate, right. Yeah, 87 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: And it was an eleven month CD and so I've 88 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: never before had eleven months go by. It's so quickly, 89 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I want to continue to 90 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: earn that, but my time is up. Well, I'm glad 91 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you found something else that is is gonna, you know, 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: at least for the next couple of months, pay you 93 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: decently well on that money. But all right, Matt, let's 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: get to the beer that we're having on this show. 95 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: This one's called Rhyming Numbers, and the nice folks over 96 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: at the Eighth State Brewing Company donated this beer to 97 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: the show. It's a really fascinating beer. It's got a 98 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: ton of different ingredients in it. We'll kind of let 99 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: you know all that's in the beer and give our 100 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: thoughts on it at the end of the episode, but 101 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: for now, let's get to the topic at hand. We're 102 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: asking the question is it dumb to buy a house 103 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: when the market's hot? And Matt like, the housing market 104 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: is obviously drawing a lot of attention right now. It's 105 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: the subject of a lot of headlines asking prices are 106 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: at all time highs, Bidding wars have become regular, even normalized. 107 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think more than half homes that went 108 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: on the market there's essentially multiple offers on it, and 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: then the sellers in just an awesome place to start 110 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: asking those buyers to compete against one another. And you know, 111 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: some people have been saying that we're in a housing 112 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: bubble that's likely to burst, while other people are basically 113 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: saying that this may the year surrounding housing is probably 114 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna last for even a few more years. So, you know, 115 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're one of the folks 116 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: who are interested in settling down in buying a home 117 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: in the near future. It's a tough position to be in. 118 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: But you and I were going to do our best 119 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: to offer some advice so that folks don't make a 120 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: reactionary move based on like this feeding frenzy. Essentially that 121 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: could you know, hurt you financially for years to come 122 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: if you make a bad decision. Yeah, folks are starting 123 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: to wonder if buying a home in today's market is 124 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: a good idea, dude, especially if you're a first time HomeBuyer. 125 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: If that you might be wondering if it's different right 126 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: now than when the market isn't so hot, And yeah, 127 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: certainly a lot more stressful today than it was ten 128 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: years ago. But this doesn't mean that you shouldn't consider 129 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: buying a home right now. But when the competition is 130 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: incredibly stiff, you're gonna need to modify your approach some. 131 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: And so all the tips, all the things that we're 132 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna mention later on in the episode, I think that 133 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: you can implement regardless of what the market looks like. 134 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: But it's definitely something you're gonna need to implement today. 135 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: It's something that you're gonna need to do now. It's 136 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: certainly less optional. Yeah all right, man, I'm gonna throw 137 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: in a little sport reference here. Um. Yeah, I still 138 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: like baseball, even though I don't watch it nearly as 139 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: much as I used to. But it makes me think 140 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: of like a batter coming coming to the plate and 141 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: guess who's pitching today, a knuckleball pitcher. But nobody throws 142 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: the knuckleball anymore. I don't even know if there's anybody 143 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: in the major leagues that throws a knuckleball. But basically, 144 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: it's like this really weird pitch where you punch the 145 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: ball at the batter basically, k Yeah. Yeah, It's it's 146 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: like a super awkward way of throwing the ball, but 147 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: when it's headed towards the plate, it's it's going way slower, 148 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: so you think it'd be easier to hit, but because 149 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 1: of the way it's thrown, it has this weird spin 150 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: that you almost can't predict. Um and so it might 151 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: migrate like to the left or up or down, like 152 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: you don't really know where it's going. It's kind of 153 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: like a mystery flavor exactly. So it's one of those 154 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: things where you know the fundamentals that you learned as 155 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: a hitter, you still have to implement those things, but 156 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: you gotta change your strategy in order to actually get 157 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: hits off that knuckleball. You're probably not gonna be swinging 158 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: for the fences. You're probably gonna try to poke through 159 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: a single And I think you know, there's a similar 160 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: reaction that buyers are going to have to have in 161 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: this environment, Like buying a home still has a lot 162 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: of things that hold true, but your strategy is going 163 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: to have to change. Um And Yeah, each market is 164 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: different to right, Like the median home price has gone 165 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: up seventeen percent year over year. So it's been just 166 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: a huge spike in prices all across the nation, while 167 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: the hottest markets have actually seen price increases outpace even 168 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: that amount, And so it's been been really difficult if 169 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: you're in one of the markets that a lot of 170 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: people are interested in right now. But will the market 171 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: cool off anytime soon? That remains to be seen. It's 172 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: always hard to predict things like this. I mean, it 173 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: would have been almost impossible to even predict that housing 174 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: prices would have shot up at this pace a year 175 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: ago too. I don't remember anybody predicting that the housing 176 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: market was going to be the Sponker's part of that 177 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: is due to COVID and household priorities changing super quickly, 178 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: and it makes intuitive sense. I guess that individuals and 179 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: families are prioritizing single family homes more than they did 180 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: eighteen months ago. When you've been locked in your home 181 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: to a large extent over over the last you know, 182 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: more than twelve months. Now, people are prioritizing their living 183 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: spaces in a different way. So yeah, how long this 184 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: housing boom is going to last is really anyone's guess, 185 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: But to me, it doesn't make sense that that it 186 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: might continue to last for a while to come. Yeah, 187 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: So let's dig into why it's so difficult right now 188 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: to buy a home, uh, and kind of what got 189 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: us here, Let's talk about why the market is so hot. 190 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: You know, in any market where you have sellers and 191 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: buyers with transactions occurring, you have supply and demand, and 192 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: that is determining the cost, right And we have seen 193 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: demand go up for a number of reasons, but one 194 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: of those is definitely due to the pandemic. Like you 195 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: mentioned in lockdowns, we've been in our homes more since 196 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: last year, and because so many folks are now working 197 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: out of their house, more space has become a priority. 198 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: And so that's definitely true for buyers, but we're also 199 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: seeing that too for you know, with renters as well. 200 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, man, Even just as a small time landlord, 201 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: I've met a lot of folks Matt moving out of 202 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: midtown or downtown Atlanta who have been in a small 203 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: studio or one bedroom apartment or condo and they're looking 204 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: for more space. Like my sister was kind of in 205 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: that exact position. She was in a studio with her husband, 206 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: and it turns out that, uh, those conditions aren't conducive 207 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: to two people working at the same time and also 208 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: living in that place. And so yeah, they've moved over 209 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: into our neck of the woods there in a two 210 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: two right around the corner now, so they can live 211 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: together in peace and harmony without you know, killing each 212 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: other as I think some people are starting to do 213 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: in small spaces, like you know, back to back, essentially 214 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: working at desks in a small space. They just um, 215 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people have different needs now 216 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: in a home than they did before, right, yeah, absolutely, dude. 217 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Also too, because of you know, lockdowns and turbulence in 218 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: the job market, you know, a lot of folks have 219 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: been spending less money overall. We've seen a lot of 220 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: households getting out of credit card debts over the past year, 221 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: and dude, this has allowed a lot of folks to 222 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: build up solid down payments. You know, folks have more 223 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: cash on hand than they ever had before. And then 224 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: on top of that, steamless checks for many have only 225 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: increased their ability to put down more money towards the home. 226 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: And so you know, if you didn't get laid off 227 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: and your income stayed the same all the while, you're 228 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: spending less money, you might have had an extra ten 229 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: tho dollars fall into your lap thanks to the cares acts, uh, 230 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: the other acts. I can keep up with them all 231 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: honestly at this point. But if you've got a teen 232 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: kids got way more than that, you've got a ton 233 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: of money. You're also going to need a bigger house. 234 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: That's true, exactly. Yeah, hopefully you don't have eighteen kids. 235 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd even take care of that many. 236 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: I've got three, and that's that's a lot to take 237 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: care of. I was talking to my daughter, and she's 238 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: in like music class. They're learning about like different composers, 239 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: I guess, and she was. She told me that Bach 240 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: had like twenty kids. Oh my gosh, she told me 241 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: that the other day. I don't know if that's true. 242 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: But he had like seven kids first, and then he 243 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: had like thirteen more with like another wife. All Right, 244 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, uh, you know, look into this. I'm gonna 245 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: look up Wikipedia. That sounds interesting. It's a lot of kids. 246 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: It's something I want to definitely want to know more about. 247 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: Back would have got a lot of money that you 248 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: were left today. That's true also to Matt I mean, 249 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, when we're talking about the 250 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: housing market, demographics are a big part of why so 251 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: many folks want to buy a home too. And you know, 252 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: of Americans between the ages of thirty four say they 253 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: planned to buy a home, and among that same age 254 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: group say they planned to do it in the next 255 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: twelve months. And I was according to a study by 256 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: Fortune magazine, that's an entire generation of people that are 257 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: approaching the stage in life were perching. A home essentially 258 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: becomes more and more attractive, and so for a lot 259 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: of those people. You know, I think there were headlines 260 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: years and years ago that predicted the millennials wouldn't be 261 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: a homeowning generation. But I think even they want to 262 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: own a home, that part of the American dream still 263 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: remains alive and and I understand that, And so I 264 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: think because of the demographics, that's another reason the housing 265 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: market might continue to remain hot for you know, the 266 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: foreseeable future. Yeah, I feel like also to the same 267 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: headlines years ago said things like millennials don't want to 268 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: buy a home, they just want to travel. Well, guess 269 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: what this is another pandemic induced reason for millennials. They 270 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: kind of yeah, change their tune a little bit. It's like, Okay, 271 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: no longer can you do the things that you truly valued. 272 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you prize that nomadic lifestyle the ability to you know, 273 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: live in a small apartment, uh and then spend all 274 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: your money elsewhere on experiences, on travel. But when you 275 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: can no longer do that, Yeah, it causes some introspection. 276 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Then you maybe start to change your values a little bit. 277 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Also to some of the folks that live that hardcore 278 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: nomadic lifestyle, maybe they got tired of it, at least 279 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: some of them. Yeah, that is true, man, Yeah, how 280 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: long do you want to live in a van? For 281 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: ten years? Sure? But like beyond that, I don't. I mean, 282 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it much longer than that. Even that 283 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: sounds long to me, But like I understand the appeal 284 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: of it. But then it probably does where within after 285 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: a while, that's true. Uh So. Yeah, so we're talking 286 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: about demand right due institutional investors, they are also now 287 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: your competition if you're looking to buy a house. Right So, 288 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Wall Street they got into single family homes after the 289 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: housing crash of two thousand eight. They bought up a 290 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: bunch of cheap homes as the market was recovering, and 291 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: those institutional investors are still buying, meaning that you aren't 292 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: just competing against other uh you know, quote unquote normal homebuyers. 293 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: You're competing in a family down the street, right, Yeah, yeah, No, 294 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: you're competing with firms that have millions or billions of 295 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: dollars that they're looking to expand their their holdings in 296 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: their portfolios with. You know, as The Wall Street Journal 297 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: reported last month, there are potentially even other foreign governments 298 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: who are looking to purchase up real estate in the US. So, yeah, 299 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: you with your limited, finite amount of resources, your bank 300 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: account with a certain amount of cash in it, you're 301 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: abdy just a bannage when you're competing against the likes 302 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: of a giant investment conglomoration like that, right or prints 303 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: from Saudi Ragia, right exactly, he's gonna come out on top. Right. 304 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry you were outbid, oh no by a 305 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: prince from another country. Okay, it doesn't make you feel 306 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better about it, I get it. 307 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: Why don't want this three bedroom, two bath though it 308 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense an investment exactly, But yeah, I think 309 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: to Matt that that's the demand side, But supply has 310 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: also gone down to right, like, fewer people are putting 311 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: their homes up on the market for sale. And if 312 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: you took an econ class in high school, you know 313 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: the basic fundamental principle of supply and demand. That's like 314 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: economics one on one right there. And when there's less 315 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: supply out there, we are of course going to see 316 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: prices on the rise. That's definitely been the case. And again, 317 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: part of the reason is that COVID nineteen was a 318 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: scary thing for a lot of folks, and especially people 319 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: with health conditions. Many weren't interested in having strangers walked 320 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: through their house, of course, right and if even if 321 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: they were kind of interested in selling. And as more 322 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: of the country gets vaccinated, I do think we're gonna 323 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: begin to see more supply and that will at least 324 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: help a lead ate some of the like red hot 325 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: market insanity. That's right, man, everyone is excited to get 326 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: back to their normal lives. We're talking about supply, dude. 327 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: New construction is still down as compared to the pre 328 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Great Recession levels. We are currently still short millions of 329 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: homes on the supply side, and although builders have been 330 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: been doing well in recent years, we still don't have 331 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: enough builders to to keep up with the demand that's 332 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: currently out there. And just like you said, when the 333 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: supply is level, that's only going to drive prices up. Yeah. 334 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: And another thing that hasn't helped builders out is is 335 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: that lumber prices have skyrocketed during right make so you know, 336 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: the the astronomical lumber prices have added close to dollars 337 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: to the cost of a building a typical single family 338 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: home and then like ten dollars per apartment unit that's 339 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: going online. Uh, and that was according to the National 340 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Association of Home Builders. That just makes it harder for 341 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: builders to get the raw materials it takes to get 342 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: those homes built. Supply shortages sometimes means that you've got 343 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: workers who aren't able to work while you're waiting for 344 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: that lumber to come in. Yeah. I expect some of 345 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: those supply issues to be worked out in the coming years, 346 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: but some of them are gonna take even longer. And yeah, 347 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: when you look at the fact that, like you said, 348 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: new construction is still way down than what we were 349 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: seeing in like two thousand six, um, that just impacts 350 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: everybody's ability to buy an affordable house. Today, that's right, 351 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, we just addressed all the different reasons 352 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: why it is the housing market is so red hot currently. 353 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: But right after the break, we're gonna touch on a 354 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: number of different things that you can do to ensure 355 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: that you get the house that you want to get 356 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: and to make sure too that you're thinking about it properly. 357 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: And so we'll get to all of that right after this. Alright, 358 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: we're back from the break, and if you're interested in 359 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: buying a house right now, you've probably been put off 360 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: by the high home prices. You might have even put 361 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: placed a couple of offers and it turns out that 362 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: somebody bids over what you um offered, even though maybe 363 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: you even offered above asking price. Like that's how crazy 364 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: things are right now. And hopefully you know what we 365 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: just talked about helps you see you know why things 366 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: are as nutty as they are, And hopefully too, you know, 367 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: some of those things will start to shift in the 368 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: coming months so that things do get back into like 369 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a normal state. But let's 370 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: talk about, Matt, what people need to do if they're 371 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: attempting to make an offer, if they're attempting to buy 372 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: a home in this market and and maybe even whether 373 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: or not they should be right, Like, I think the 374 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: first thing that people need to know if they're planning 375 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: to buy a home in this crazy market is to 376 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: be prepared to stay in that home that they're buying 377 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: for a minimum of seven years. That's kind of something 378 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: that we've always said as a rule of thumbler buying 379 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: a home. And you know that's because the transaction costs 380 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: of buying and selling homes are just kind of ridiculous. 381 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Like it's really expensive to buy and sell a home. 382 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about closing costs, agent fees, um, 383 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff. So it's even 384 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: more important, I would say, when prices are at all 385 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: time highs to make sure that the home that you're 386 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: buying is one that you're gonna hold onto for for 387 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: quite a while. Yeah, before it's like a minimum of 388 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: seven years. Now it's kind of like, I don't know, 389 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: maybe seven us here's that you would want to hang 390 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: onto that house for. But yeah, let's go ahead and 391 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: talk more about how to go about buying a home 392 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: while the market is making it harder to do so 393 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: right now, And the first thing that we want to mention, UH, 394 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: is for you to get an experienced agent through to 395 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: solid agent with a lot of experience under the belt 396 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: can help sort of act as a sherpa, as a 397 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: guide for you as you kind of navigate through the 398 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: ups and downs of trying to buy a home in 399 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: a frothy market like we're currently seeing. They can help 400 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: you to avoid some of the pitfalls that others might 401 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: be making, uh in their angst to own a home. 402 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: And so you're gonna want to find a great agent 403 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: who has solid negotiation skills, someone who is easy to 404 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: communicate with, but a good experienced agent will also be 405 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: honest with you and will help you to kind of 406 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: navigate those emotional waters. Because there's no other asset that 407 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: we own that we're more tied to than our homes, right, Like, 408 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: it's something that we move into. We see ourselves there, 409 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: we see ourselves raising our family, our kids there. It 410 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: kind of becomes a part of who we are as people, 411 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: and that can cause us to make some decisions that 412 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: may not financially make the most sense for us. Oh yeah, 413 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: for sure. I think that's that's definitely true, and and 414 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing that now is maybe some people 415 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: getting in over their head buying more than they actually 416 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: should be. It's probably a reactionary thing, right, and I 417 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: think a good agent can help you to avoid emotional 418 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: decision making. It's easy to lose out on three or 419 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: four homes and and then inwardly you resolve I'm gonna 420 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: get the next one, but that might not be the 421 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: best thing for you, right, Like fool me once or 422 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: twice or four times, never again. Yeah, yeah, but then 423 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: you overpay and you regret it, and you don't you're 424 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: like happy that you're in this home, but you're like, 425 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I can actually afford this 426 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: home now because I made an offer that I can't 427 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: actually back up. And like, so we would say that 428 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: you need to set some parameters that you've outlined with 429 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: your agent early on, and then refer back to those consistently. 430 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: It can be easy to see your standards slowly and 431 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: incrementally changes. You're looking for a place, too, so you 432 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: have to make sure that your line is drawn. It 433 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: can easy. It can be easy to start looking at 434 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: homes and you know you're content with two bedroom to bath, 435 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: and then things start to creep up and you're like well, 436 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: we might want that third bedroom, and maybe we want 437 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: you know this or that, and you start adding features 438 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: onto the home you're looking for that increases the price, 439 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: and so yeah, it's it's kind of like coming up 440 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: with an investing plan and sticking to it. You probably 441 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: need to come up with a plan of the kind 442 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: of home and the location that you're looking for and 443 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: be willing to stick to that too, That's right. Yeah, 444 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: So having an experienced agent is really important in today's market. Also, 445 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: do getting pre approved. Making sure you have your finances 446 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: lined up is a really important step, we think before 447 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: you even start to go look at homes. But we 448 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: also think it's really important to know what you are 449 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: willing to spend, not just what the bank is willing 450 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: to approve you for. Yeah, it should likely be less 451 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: than the full amount that a bank or credit union 452 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: says that you can afford. You don't want to become 453 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: house poor with that mortgage payment straining your budget every 454 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: single month. Um. But having that pre approval letter lined up, 455 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: along with proof of funds that you're gonna need to 456 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: have for that down payment, are going to be really 457 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: helpful in today's market. And true it's part of making 458 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: a stronger offer is having pre approval and having proof 459 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: of funds that you actually have money in order to 460 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: back up that offer. And Matt two, yeah, I would 461 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: say right now, another thing people need to pay special 462 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: attention to is their credit score if they want to 463 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: make an offer on a home and they actually want 464 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: to get it accepted. Because at the same time prices 465 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: are skyrocketing, it's becoming tougher to get a loan, like 466 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: the lending standards have gone gotten even tighter in recent months. 467 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: So your credit score matters a whole lot right now 468 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: when you're getting a mortgage. It always has, but but 469 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: it means even more of these days. So keep track 470 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: of your credit score on sites like credit Karma or 471 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: credit score card dot com. Those are two great places 472 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: to look, or just your credit card probably when they 473 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: send you your bill. You have the ability to check 474 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: out your credit score for free to wherever you get it. 475 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: Just make sure you're kind of keeping an eye on it. 476 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Also to in particular, if you're in the market to 477 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: buy a home right now, pay your bills on time, religiously, 478 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: and then don't take out any unnecessary lines of credit 479 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: in the months before you intend to start making offers. 480 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: If you do that, you're going to potentially hurt your 481 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: credit score at the time you needed the most, at 482 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: the time that you need it to secure the best 483 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: possible financing rate, and then not having a good enough 484 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: credit score one it could mean that you pay a 485 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: higher interest rate and that could be thousands of dollars 486 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: over the life of the loan, or it could mean 487 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: not getting that house altogether. So credit score crucial right now. Yeah, 488 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: the credit score is important, but even taking out another 489 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: loan or an additional line of credit like your credit card, 490 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: could throw off your debt to income ratio enough to 491 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: where yeah, the bank or that lender would then say, sorry, uh, 492 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: you no longer qualify um. At the very least, you're 493 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through a lot of paperwork writing 494 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: out those letters of explanation as to what it is 495 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: these cards are, and they might even ask you to 496 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: close some lines of credit or credit cards. Something else 497 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: that we'd recommend for folks to do when it comes 498 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: to looking at houses today is to consider lowing your expectations. 499 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: You know that, like the perfect house, it's always gonna 500 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: be tough to find, but getting the exact hone that 501 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: you've dreamed of is even more difficult. Right now, there's 502 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, like eighty two other people out there who 503 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: also think that the home that you really want is 504 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: gonna work for them, So you might need to be 505 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: willing to buy a home that doesn't check all of 506 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: the boxes. It makes me think of Actually, on Monday, 507 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: we talked with Troy and Rashad uh and they kind 508 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: of mentioned that was my big deck away from that episode, 509 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: the four three two one approach. I feel like this 510 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: is sort of a variation on that. You know, don't 511 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: think about purchasing your perfect little house that you know 512 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: that that's gonna work for you for the next five 513 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: to ten years or whatever. Now think of it as 514 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: something that you're going to hang onto. And definitely it 515 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: can be a house that you purchase that you know 516 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: isn't perfect, But if you're able to see it more 517 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: as an investment that can allow you to hopefully get 518 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: on board with a house that's not perfect, but it's 519 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a good home. It's gonna be a home 520 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: that can serve as an investment in the cash flow 521 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: that you're gonna receive from that property can help fund 522 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: the actual dream home that you're gonna maybe purchased, yeah 523 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: years down the line. So maybe stop looking for that 524 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: single family home, start looking for the duplex, triplex or 525 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: even quadplex, you know, and that and that can be 526 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: better for your monthly budget, and that can be better 527 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: for your financial future too. I agree. I love the 528 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: four three two one. I thought it was like such 529 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: a such an awesome, such an awesome way to think about, 530 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: you know, buying a house and investing in property for 531 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: the future. Also to Matt, like, lowering your expectations is 532 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: important because it's harder to get everything you want in 533 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: today's you know environment. But also you've gotta be on 534 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: the ball. With more than half of homes that are 535 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: listed going under contract in a week or less, you'll 536 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: need to be checking the area that you're interested in. 537 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: I would say every day, sometimes more frequently than once 538 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: a day. And that's also to where a good agent 539 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: can come in is if they are on the ball 540 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: and they're feeding that stuff to you. It helps you 541 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: to be on the ball, you know, when things come 542 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: active so that you can make an offer quickly. Sometimes 543 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: things will come online on a Thursday, and people make 544 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: offers on Thursday and Friday and then it's done, like 545 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: they have accepted an offer by Friday night and it 546 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: doesn't even last a weekend. And so if you're one 547 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: of those people who needs a few days to really 548 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: think about it, that's gonna work against you in today's market, 549 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: You've gotta be on the ball and looking frequently is 550 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: going to allow you to tune in with the market too, 551 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: so you can spot a deal and be ready to 552 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: pounce when it comes along. You're gonna know when something's 553 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: undervalued if you're looking in a specific area for months 554 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: on end and you're tuning in basically every day. Yeah, 555 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: it's important to know that this is what the market 556 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: looks like today though, right because I think for some 557 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: folks they may not want that, And so it's important 558 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: to keep in mind. You're gonna have to kind of 559 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: weigh the benefits and the downsides to purchasing a house 560 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: in today's market. Are you willing to keep up with 561 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: it that well, if not, you might find yourself maybe 562 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: overpaying because you're not able to pounce on that deal. So, yeah, 563 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: these are things to keep in mind before you found 564 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: a house, right well, as you're searching for a home, 565 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: But what you've found a home and you want to 566 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: put an offer on it, you want to make sure 567 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: that you make your offer look strong, and so finding 568 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: out what the seller wants can help you to make 569 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: that strong offer. If the seller, say, wants to to 570 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: stay in the home for a week maybe two weeks 571 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: after the closing, if you can write that into the offer, 572 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: that can massively increase your chances of having an offer accepted. Uh, 573 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: If a more immediate closing is the most important factor 574 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: for them, submit an offer with a shorter due diligence 575 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: period and a closing date that is sooner than you 576 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: might normally offer. And another thing too, increasing the amount 577 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: of earnest money that you are willing to put down 578 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: as another way to show the buyer that you are serious. 579 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: If others are submitting offers with, you know, like say 580 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars of earnesce money, then submit years with 581 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. That alone can be a big check 582 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: mark in your favor. And keep in mind, you know, 583 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: you get that earnest money back if you terminate the 584 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: contract while in that due diligence period, so it's it's 585 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: not really something that is actually costing you more you 586 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: just have to have that money available. I feel like 587 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: that's how you're gonna be able to beat out the princess, 588 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: like the foreign princess of this world, right is just 589 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: buy bigger, earnest money, right, It's like I've got five 590 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: thousand more dollars, buddy, Well, I think to like one 591 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: other thing, Matt, that's obviously really really important. How a 592 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: lot of people are getting offers accepted right now is 593 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: people making cash offers, and so that's just not possible 594 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: for so many people. But there are a lot of investors, 595 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, foreign entities that are willing 596 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: to offer all cash on on a home right now. 597 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: And so I would suggest, like, if you do have 598 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: the money in savings, even in an investment account, right 599 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: you can make a quote unquote cash offer, but you 600 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: can reserve a financing contingency. Right. Sellers know that a 601 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: buyer with cash is far more likely to close on 602 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: the home because of financing. Mishap won't get in the way. 603 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: And if you have cash, even if you intend to 604 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: get financing, making that cash offer with the ability to 605 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: secure financing you know during the process could really help 606 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: you out. Basically, it's making that strong offer from the 607 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: get go. It helps you to avoid counter offers and escalation. 608 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: That's what you want to stay away from, where a 609 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: seller says, I like your offer, but there's three others 610 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: that are similar, highest and best by Sunday night Boo. Yeah, 611 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: you don't want to be in that position. That's when 612 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: the emotions start to take hold and you offer more 613 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: than you then you actually wanted to. We're not gonna 614 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: let this one get away, So yeah, we would not 615 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: recommend that, right, But submitting a video or a letter 616 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: can make the difference for multiple reasons. First, it's an 617 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: emotional appeal, but you know, the seller often sees that 618 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: as a sign that you really want the home, you know, 619 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: so that means a greater chance of the deal actually 620 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: going through. And since time is money in a real 621 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: estate transactions, yeah, this helps the seller know that they 622 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: can kind of move on with their life if they 623 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: accept your offer. They're not you know, they don't have 624 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: a new part time job of trying to sell their house, 625 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: which is often the case. That's the worst thing as 626 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: a seller is the contract falling through, having to put 627 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: it back on the market, and it feels a little 628 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: snake bitten. Other people are like, oh, was it a 629 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: bad inspection? What's going on? And and so sometimes yeah, 630 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: that can cost a seller a lot of money. And 631 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: so if you really love the house and you're you know, 632 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: you communicate that effectively to the seller, I think that's 633 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: really helpful way of getting your offer, you know, up 634 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: to the top of the consideration list. Also to Matt, 635 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: there are some people that are suggesting to forego having 636 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: an inspection or for go putting that in the contract 637 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: that you have the right to an inspection, And I 638 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: don't think that's a good way though, to move forward 639 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: with your home purchase. You a waiving that contingency might 640 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: help you get under contract, but it might mean that 641 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: you're buying a house that could potentially be a money pit. Right. 642 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: Inspections can reveal problems that you can't see with your 643 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: own two eyes, you know, unless you are a general 644 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: contractor or you have a ton of experience with houses. Um, 645 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, even personally as someone who's bought half a 646 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: dozen homes and you know, as a landlord has rental properties, 647 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: I still get each one inspected. And so if if 648 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: it came down to that, I would say no way. 649 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Jose Man I'm gonna I'm going to always put that 650 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: inspection contingency in there, and I'm always going to have 651 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: an inspection done. And if anybody says that you should 652 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: forego that in order to get this home, I think 653 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: that's a step too far. It's something that I would 654 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: not be willing to do. That's rights and also too 655 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: you don't ask for a bunch of repairs to be 656 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: done within uh the negotiating and within the offer. Sellers 657 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: are way less likely to make repairs or press concessions 658 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: when the market is dramatically in their favor. But do 659 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: keep these things in mind. Right, factor those necessary repairs 660 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: into what you're willing to spend on the home. You 661 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: want to get your foot in the door. You want 662 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're able to lock down this house. 663 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you don't want to end 664 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: up out of pocket a ton of money that you 665 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily expecting to spend. Yeah, And I don't think 666 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: we're saying don't negotiate at all. I'm just I think 667 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: we're saying that it makes me think of negotiations with 668 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: my children this way in that right, like like they 669 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: don't have much of a chance to get certain things 670 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: by me, Like Dad, can we have like two more desserts? 671 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: It's like no, And there's like zero chance that that's 672 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna happen tonight. Is you getting more? You getting more dessert? 673 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: And so I think, Yeah, what you're gonna do maybe 674 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: in that process is annoy the seller. And so you 675 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: have to get to be kind of like ginger with 676 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: what you're asking for while you're you're you're in the 677 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: negotiation process. You don't want to overstep your balance because 678 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: that's not the kind of market we're in. Yeah, this 679 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: is another reason why having a great agent is gonna 680 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: allow you to come out ahead. So, like we said, 681 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: if you're purchasing at home, it's gonna take a lot 682 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: of mental bandwidth, a lot of emotional energy. But here's 683 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: the thing, this isn't the only option that's available to you. 684 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: And so if you're not willing to jump through all 685 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: those hoops. Right after the break, we're gonna get to 686 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: a few other options for you to consider. Right we're 687 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: back from break, we're talking about buying a home in 688 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: a red hot market, and I feel like it is 689 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: more difficult. Mat We we did cover a lot of 690 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: ground about what potential home buyers need to think about 691 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: and how the game's kind of changed essentially, you know, 692 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: over the past ten years, and especially in the past 693 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: year year and a half as things have really heated 694 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: up with a short supply. People have to be on 695 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: the ball and they have to be able to make 696 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: um able and willing to make a strong offer from 697 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: from the get go. But they also have to have 698 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: their personal finances in order to get the ball rolling 699 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: with buying a home too. But I think for people 700 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: who maybe aren't willing to, as you said before the break, 701 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: jump through all those hoops, there are some alternatives to 702 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: buying a home throwing a hot market. You can actually 703 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: sit this one out, don't you think? Yeah, man, that's 704 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: certainly an option you could consider waiting for more favorable 705 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: market conditions. You know, this would allow you to save 706 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: up more dough for a bigger home budget while you 707 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: wait for for prices to the chill acts a little bit. 708 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: But the problem, though, right, is that with his plan, 709 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that the home prices will actually chill 710 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: out and take it easy, allowing you to execute that plan. 711 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: And there's there's certainly pros and that might allow you 712 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: to personally get in a more stable financial position. But 713 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean that the market is going to 714 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: back down, allowing for lower prices in the future. True, 715 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: although I'd be surprised if you know, the market continued 716 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: at the same rate that it's been doing over the 717 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: past year for the next year or two. I mean, 718 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, home prices industry going up year over a year, 719 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: Like that's that'd be um. It would be unlikely that 720 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: that would continue to happen over the next couple of years. 721 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: Each year at your home will be worth like one 722 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: point five million, but in like two years, you're like 723 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: your two bedroom, one bath is now just worth a 724 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of money. But yeah, so I think another 725 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: alternative to buying a home during a hot market, you know, 726 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: instead of taking part in the game you said, you know, 727 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: waiting for more favorable market conditions, another reaction is to 728 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: maybe move somewhere else. Right, Like Austin is a specific 729 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: city that maybe if you live there, but you don't 730 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: have to live there, maybe it's a perfect opportunity to 731 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: find a new location to to exist in. Right, It's 732 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: easier said than done, Right, Like, I'd prefer some of 733 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: the other options, you know, than to to this option 734 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: because I love where we if and it's it's not 735 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: my intention to leave anytime soon. Family, community, friendships, like 736 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: all those things are really important when you're thinking about 737 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: where you want to live. But if owning a home 738 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: is a priority for a lot of folks out there, 739 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: and you are flexible about where that house is located, 740 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean, moving even just a few miles away from 741 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: your ideal location could really change the pricing equation. And 742 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: if you wanted to take it to an extreme, I mean, 743 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: be willing to move to another state or city altogether. 744 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: If you're facing extreme market conditions and extreme headwinds in 745 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: buying a home where you currently live, like it might 746 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: make sense to go elsewhere you might find more buying 747 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: opportunities just around the corner. Yeah, and I definitely see 748 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: this as an option for folks who are a little 749 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: bit younger. Right, if you haven't been, you know, in 750 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: your career for very long, like maybe you've only recently 751 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: gotten out of school, but maybe you haven't put down roots, 752 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: and it is easier for you to potentially, you know, 753 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of uproot your very shallow roots and move somewhere 754 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: that's maybe a little more affordable. That might also be 755 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: true for people who are actually quite a bit older. 756 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: I think sometimes for folks who are in the middle 757 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: of their lives, like that's when you have the most 758 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: roots or the most difficult movie, like that's why the school. Yeah, 759 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: really it's kids in the roots that you put down 760 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: once you kind of get involved and you get you 761 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: get used to a certain neighborhood and and those friendships 762 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: in particular, I think are more difficult to replicate elsewhere, right. Yeah, 763 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: And and if your kids are grown, you know, and 764 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: they're off doing their own thing, now, maybe it's the 765 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: perfect time, actually, if you're older, to move somewhere else 766 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: to make maybe even move closer to kids and grandkids. 767 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: And especially I mean, given just the ability for folks 768 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: who work from home, right, I mean, never before have 769 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: we been able to live wherever we wanted to while 770 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: still maintaining our jobs. And so certainly one of the 771 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: effects of the pandemic a huge amount of people who 772 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: can do that for sure. Yeah, and one other option 773 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: I guess we wanted to if they're out there for folks, uh, 774 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: And it's not going to be one that you're excited 775 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: to hear if you've been looking at houses recently, become 776 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: a prince. Yeah, oh no, yeah no, but yeah, if 777 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: if zilla, if you're constantly on zillo and buying a 778 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: home is top of mind for you, you're not gonna 779 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: want to hear a say, but maybe you shouldn't buy 780 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: a home at all. Right, Renting is still to be 781 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: a better decision for a lot of folks. Rents have 782 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: actually gone down in much of the country as single 783 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: family house prices have risen. And so if that's you 784 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: keep renting and save and invest your money for a 785 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: time when supply and demand are a little back and sink. 786 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: And we're hardly even touching on the fact that owning 787 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: your own place, owning your own house or your apartment 788 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: may not necessarily be in the cards given the lifestyle 789 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: that you want to continue living, right, I mean, we 790 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: talked about how the pandemic has caused maybe a lot 791 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: of millennials to kind of really look at what it 792 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: is that they want to spend their money on. But 793 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: I mean, folks are getting back to traveling right now. 794 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: Countries are opening up, travelers becoming more a part of 795 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: our lives again, And so don't let this temporary although 796 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: significant occurrence you know that we've had over the past 797 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: year lead to a permanent or not permanent. You can 798 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: always sell your house, but lead to something that you 799 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: you might regret in a couple of years. Yeah, and 800 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: that regret too, can come with a high cost, especially 801 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: if you're trying to sell a home a year or 802 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: two after you bought it. Now, we know too many 803 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: friends and family members who have done that, and you know, 804 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: they end up hurting them if they didn't known the 805 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: home long enough. It just doesn't give you enough time 806 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: to recoup those costs. And so let's offer a little 807 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: hope to Matt. I think because you know, for those 808 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: who feel like the home price insanity is going to 809 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: continue in perpetuity, that's just not true either. Like we 810 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: always find ourselves in cycles. Market cycles are a part 811 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: of life. Supply and demand will get back in sync 812 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: as builders ramp up to glean the profits, or other 813 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: people put their homes on the market as they see 814 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: prices rising and they're like going for the cash grab. 815 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: And I truly think that even current homeowners are are 816 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: going to see the beauty in selling and renting. For 817 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: a while, some people will see this, They'll say, why 818 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: in the world when I not sell my home for 819 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars when I can rent in the same 820 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: neighborhood for two thou dollars a month. And that's actually 821 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: the disparity, the true disparity in some locations, Um, you 822 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: can you can rent a six hundred thousand dollar house 823 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: for two thousand dollars a month. If that's the case, 824 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna make more sense to a lot of people 825 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: to to start selling their homes. There will be more supply, 826 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: but it's gonna take time, and we've pretty much spent 827 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: this entire episode talking about the inside of the equation, 828 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: But the supply side will inevitably respond accordingly until there's 829 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: a balance. I mean, there is more incentive for home 830 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: builders to ramp things back up as much as possible, 831 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: and there is going to be more incentive for you know, 832 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: sellers to put their house on the market. So while 833 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: this glitch is painful right now, if you want to 834 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: buy a house like you know, in the next year, 835 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: it's not gonna last forever. Yeah, and don't forget too 836 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: that rising interest rates could cool things off. You know, 837 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: we're not predicting an interest rate spike per se, but 838 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: we are still near all time lows and so and 839 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: this has helped housing affordability. If interest rates take up, 840 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: that will likely cool off the rising prices, because you 841 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: know it's gonna hurt overall affordability and so. On one hand, 842 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, rates going up, it's a bad 843 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: thing because that means you're gonna be paying more to 844 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: the bank. But it's also it kind of bounces out 845 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, because we might see prices come 846 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: down a little bit in the future. Yeah, Obviously, housing 847 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: prices in the last couple of years have been insane, 848 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: and it stinks if you're in the market or if 849 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: you want to be in the market to buy a 850 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: house and you're like, I'm forced to sell on the sidelines. 851 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: This is not even a choice. I cannot participate, and 852 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: it can be discouraging. I think if owning your home 853 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: has been a big goal for you and your family, 854 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: you've been saving for it for maybe even years now. 855 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: But also at the same time, Matt, the mortgage rates 856 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: you just mentioned, they do mean that affordability hasn't gotten 857 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: as out of whack as I think a lot of 858 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: people might think. They see the sky high prices, but 859 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, super low interest rates, you know, thirty year 860 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: mortgage in the twos, you know, is what we were 861 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: seeing at the end of last year that made it 862 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: so that people could afford to buy more home. And 863 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: I think we need to reiterate if you're planning to 864 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: stay in the home that you're buying for seven years 865 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: or longer, buying a home even in the middle of 866 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: this current madness, it's it's not a terrible idea, but 867 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: you just got to make sure you follow some of 868 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: the steps that we've discussed so that you don't don't 869 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: end up with six figures of buyer remorse or pull 870 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: the trigger based on kind of an emotional reaction to 871 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: what's happening now, wanting to get in before prices outstrip 872 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: your ability to afford a home. That would be a 873 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: bad reason to buy. And Matt and I we continue 874 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: to believe, and we will continue to say on the 875 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: show that renting is not throwing away money, and it 876 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: makes more sense for more and more people every single 877 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: day as prices continue to just kind of shoot through 878 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: the roof. Yeah, man, that's right. And hopefully with this episode, 879 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: listeners are able to see that purchasing home in today's 880 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: hot environment, it's not as simple as a yes or no. 881 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: There are a lot of different things that we need 882 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: to take into account. But if you do want to 883 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: purchase at home, there are a number of things that 884 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: you need to keep in mind to make sure that 885 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: you're successful at snagging that home. But Joel, now it's 886 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: time for us to shift gears. Let's get back to 887 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: the beer that you and I shared on this episode. 888 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: That's one was called Rhyming Numbers by the Eighth State 889 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: Brewing Company, and this was an Imperial sour with lots 890 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: of different things included. Uh in this beer? What your 891 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on it? All? Right? So, yeah, there was a 892 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: ton of things in this beer. I would say when 893 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: when we poured the beer, it looked like I was 894 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: drinking Perade Beat. And I will say, I'm glad it 895 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: wasn't purade Beat, because I don't think I want to 896 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: dug that beats are good. Uh yeah, I'm kind personally, 897 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: I'm glad you like them. I love beats. Would you 898 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: drink parade Beat? Um? Yes? Well, okay, but it didn't 899 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: taste like that. It tasted like had pineapples and cherries. 900 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: Kind of kind of vibe going on also to some 901 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: sweetness because they was marshmallows in this beer. And then 902 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: like the beer said, there were pistachios in it. I 903 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: was barely getting any nuttiness in it, but maybe just 904 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: a hint. But this beer really was like a kitchen 905 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: sink beer. They tossed a bunch of stuff in. But 906 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: this brewery, they ate stayed out of South Carolina. They 907 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: know what they're doing to such an extent that this 908 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: was delicious, like SPoD imminently drinkable sour beer with a 909 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: bunch of different flavors coming at you that just blended 910 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: perfectly together. Yeah, you mentioned pistachio. That's one of the 911 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: ingredients they had listened to. Here we can all agree 912 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: that pistachio are like the best nut out there. Yeah, like, 913 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: yeahstachio came down. There's no better nut than the pistachio. 914 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's interesting you mentioned are close second. Almonds 915 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: are very good, Yeah, but they still don't. Dude, if 916 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: pistachios were as easy to eat as almonds, then I 917 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: think pistachios would definitely win. You need to you need 918 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: to go my route and buy the pre shell in 919 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: the bag at the costco. Man, it's it's a wonderful feeling. Uh. 920 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned cherry, and it's interesting because there's actually not 921 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: cherry listed out on here, but it totally has cherry 922 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: vibes going on. I feel like it almost has like 923 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: this mold red wine kind of of flavor profile gone on, 924 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: Like in my in my mind, there's like almost like 925 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: warming spices where it feels like a you know, just 926 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: like a kind of blanket of a beer on your 927 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: on your tongue as you drink it. And so this 928 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: hour almost kind of has like stout like qualities, Like 929 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of drawn to that heaviness, you're 930 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of drawn to that texture. Maybe a little more 931 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: in the in the winter or maybe even in the 932 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: autumn months, but you're typically looking for that with the stouts, 933 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: and so to have that in a sour is actually 934 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: was to me really unexpected but at the same time 935 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: extremely delicious. I'm glad that you and I got to 936 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: share this one, and big things to the folks out 937 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: there at eight State Brewing for donating this one to 938 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: the show. No doubt, all right, that's gonna do it 939 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: for this episode. If you want to check out the 940 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: show notes and links to anything that we mentioned on 941 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: the this episode. Just go to our website at how 942 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: to money dot com. That's right, man. So that's gonna 943 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: do it for this episode. Until next time, Best Friends Out, 944 00:40:47,160 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: Best Friends Out, m