WEBVTT - Get to Know Nurse Jamie 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.160 Chris Harrison and Lauren Zeema Comany Today from the home 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:14.440 office in Austin, Texas. Today's show is all about helping you, 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.079 helping your skin, answering these urban myths we hear so 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:24.080 much els on social media. Everybody pretends to be a 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:28.360 medical expert when it comes to lift Filler's botox, everything 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.160 that we're inundated with these days. We got to separate 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:31.840 fact from fiction. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.440 Well, we really wanted to have this person on, especially 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.080 after we had mentioned those Love Island photos, the cast 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.480 photos that went kind of everywhere, and they were women 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.600 in their twenties and even a plastic surgeon who looked 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.560 at the photos thought they were ten years older or more. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:48.960 So, why is this happening? 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.159 What is going on with injectables that were doing Filler's 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:57.640 botox and a few other celebrity headlines with aesthetics that 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.480 we wanted to get addressed and cleared up. So we 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.720 have on today Nurse Jamie. If you've never heard her 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.280 name before, a Nurse Jamie has been known. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.679 I'd heard her like on ET. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.600 We'd covered her many times before because she has been 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.120 known as an absolute expert with tons of celebrity clients 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.320 in the LA area for years. She's the owner of 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.679 Beauty Park Medical Spa in Santa Monica in the LA Area, 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.399 and she's been on you know, I mean everything from 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.600 The Doctors to The Today's Show to Revenge Body. Uh, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.720 so many shows and for such a good reason to say. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.360 Her biggest show ever, your most dramatic podcast ever. And 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.959 here she is to take some of the drama out 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.240 of our faces. Nurse Jamie. Do you like to be 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:41.960 called Can we just call you Jamie? 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.320 You can just call me James. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.000 Okay, it's not like your superhero name that you kind 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:46.760 of are a superhero. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.560 You guys that have fet like to call her Nurse James. 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.240 That's awesome. Yeah. No. I actually worked at a spa 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.280 that Kirsten Duns and there were three Jamies. There was 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.400 a nurse Jamie and massage Jamie and an esthetician Jamie. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.400 And I was the tallest one and they call me 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:03.240 Big Jamie and. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.800 I was no, no, that's not gonna work, no, no. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.440 So that's the origin of Nurse Jamie. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.880 That's funny. That's like that was like all the years 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.720 on the on the Bachelor, it was like, okay, we 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:19.120 have five Laurens this season. Yes, so I would like 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.520 to talk to massage Jamie and then Nurse Jamie and then. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.480 Actually that would have made more sense in The Bachelor. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.600 You guys did like Lauren B and Lauren Z. They 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.000 should have just had nicknames. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.200 Like I used the Moniker from whatever the weird title 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:31.880 we gave them. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.440 All Right, Well, by the way, nurse you don't want 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.079 Nurse Jamie. I don't know if you've ever been asked this, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.560 are you? Did you ever watch The Bachelor? 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:39.360 I did, of course. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.120 Okay, So what did you generally think of, like the women, 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.520 especially as you saw them over the years. Could you 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.440 see like the esthetic trends changing because each season it 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.680 was this new crop of women who would come in, Like, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.880 could you start to be see like, oh, they're they're 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.960 getting more botox now fillers are coming in. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.240 Yeah, I think so, I mean a little bit, yeah, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.240 I think a little a little. You could see tweets. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.600 Here and there, one of the big differences. It always 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:10.040 happened inevitably because you know, nobody usually now it's changed 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.680 because they can see themselves on camera so often. But 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.880 back in the day, you wouldn't see yourself on television 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.320 ever or on camera. They would inevitably see themselves on 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.400 camera because they watched the show and then we would 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.320 do the specials. There was like a good month or so. Yeah, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.720 it was like they often would see themselves and go, oh, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.680 I don't like my neck, I don't like this on 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.640 TV and they would change. It was really interesting. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.000 Yeah it is. It is jarring. Yeah show. I did 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.400 show on Netflix and yeah, I thought I needed the 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.000 biggest makeover. So yeah, I know, I know the feeling. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.840 I think that happens with Real Housewives too, like they'll 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.000 come back the second season and they have changed quite a. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.160 Bit second season definitely. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:57.640 Don't you feel though that chasing that constantly can can 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.360 be a detriment at some point because you know it's like, okay, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.880 maybe I could use some you know, botox something like that. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.440 But it's when you start chasing it and then you 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.280 add on, now I want to do my nose, now, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.560 I want to do my cheeks, now I want to 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.560 do Do you think that that kind of stacking effect 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:12.640 and chasing it. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.480 Or maybe like how do you avoid that? 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:15.760 Yeah? 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.479 Well, I mean I think usually the person that is 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.039 worried about it is usually doesn't have the problem, you know, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.440 the I think. I think it's like anything. I think, 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.520 like donuts are delicious, but too many donuts are our problems. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.880 So I don't know. I think there's a way to 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.120 do it. And you know, I always compare it to 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.159 detailing your car and painting your house, Like why is 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.200 it okay to do that? But you're supposed to feel 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.960 bad about doing stuff for yourself, like for me, I 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.200 just like, I don't think anybody else even notices. I 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.359 just do things for me. But I mean my face 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.479 I've been you know, I've been doing this for over 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.520 twenty years. My face still moves, and I don't need 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.000 to go to crazy town. But I also don't like 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.920 to look like I feel sometimes. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.280 Well, one reason we really wanted to bring you on 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.760 was we had talked about this in kind of a 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.560 little news episode last week. I don't know if you 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.760 saw these photos from the new season of Love Island 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.200 of the cast members kind of went everywhere because people 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.200 thought that they were so much older than they actually are. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.360 And actually then this video got big of a plastic 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.560 surgeon like his team asked him to guess their ages 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.279 and he was guessing they were like ten or twenty 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.800 years older than they are, And at the end of 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.360 the video he said, you know, sometimes work can make 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.560 you look older, and that was one thing I wanted 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.760 to ask you about. Is like, I do feel that probably, 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.400 and I don't blame people today, but it's because we're 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.840 all constantly analyzing ourselves on iPhone cameras and on social 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.360 media that people are getting more work done younger. And 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.560 why is it, like what type of work, what's the 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.000 wrong way to do it? Where people are making themselves 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.119 look older at a young age. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:06.000 Well, I think I think sometimes it's adding too much. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.000 I think filler is sometimes the culprit or even just 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.880 being Yeah, I think any of it can be too 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.360 much when you're you know, when your forehead doubles is 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.680 a mirror, or if you start doing filler when you 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.080 don't really need it, it can you know, kind of 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.919 stretch out the skin and age the face. And there's 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.520 there's a lot of things that can happen. There's some 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.880 right ways to do it. But then I guess, yeah, 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.600 when you start looking like everyone starts looking what I 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.600 call like a number thirty seven, like a similar face 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.200 and it is start, it's hard to tell what their 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.720 chronological age is. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.480 Have you noticed a push to grab the younger audience 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.520 in pharmaceutical you know, in all of this stuff, whether 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.560 it's botox fillers, whatever. I feel like this is almost like, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.400 you know, cigarettes, what's okay, we have all the old 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.400 people smoking. What's the new frontier? We got to get 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.560 young kids smoking. You know, let's let's create a cartoon 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.280 camel and let's start selling it to kids. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.400 I feel like you forgot about the cartoon camera. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:08.360 I feel like this has started happening. With cosmetic surgeries 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.000 and everything that we're doing. It's like, okay, kids, if 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.080 you start doing this in your twenties. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.720 It's you're talking about the preventive mindset, Like if you 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.080 need to get preventive. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.680 It's preventive. And I'm like, is in your mind is 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.200 that legit or is it complete bullshit? Because the best 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.200 you're going to look in your life is when you're 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.840 in your twenties. That's when you got elasticity. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.840 College just depressing, Okay, I mean it's not. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.120 The prettiest we're going to be, but I mean as 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.800 far as what's in your skin and what's in your 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.400 body that you're the healthiest. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.320 I mean, I have eleven year old triplets, so yeah, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:48.240 they already are like watching you know, social media sometimes 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.200 and I want to go to my two girls and 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.280 one son, and my girls want to go to Suppora 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.480 all the time. So and that's like off of social media, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.000 you know, trying to I can't believe how many times 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.720 say want to go to Sephora, and even I am like, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.200 you're not buying skincare with active ingredients and that's like 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.040 eleven year old. So I do think it's something to 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:19.320 be aware of. I think that it's there's ways to 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.800 do it. I started doing botox when I was probably 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.080 twenty one, So I started doing it was young because 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.760 I worked at a plastic surgeons and dermato. I worked 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.320 for a group of dermatologists and I just always had 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.080 a very expressive forehead. And I think that you can 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.280 start doing things younger. It's just like you just have 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.240 to it's you have to tread carefully. I think there's 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.479 ways to do it, and that it actually is preventive 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.240 because once the lines get edged, because it's just like 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.960 if you do sit ups, like you get abs and 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.120 if you're if you have a very expressive face and 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.959 you actually lose the tissue there, then you would have 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.559 to do filler or other things. So it can be preventative. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.480 But then there's also the thing where you can do 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.160 it too much, where it like atro fees the muscle 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.600 and then causes a separate issue. So it's just like 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.160 there's a way to do it, but you have to 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:14.880 do it right. You have to go to the right provider. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.440 Oh my gosh, you just gave me the best. Thank you. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.000 That was the most helpful explanation I've heard yet because 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.520 the abs thing, for example, because I had never really 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.320 thought about that. You're right, like, if you're someone with 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.440 a super expressive forehead, well then maybe younger makes more 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.880 sense to you. My mom is always telling me. She's like, honey, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:33.320 you're me, you have my genetics. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:33.760 Look at me. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.040 She's like, I started botox in my fifties. Do you 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.320 see any lines on my face? 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:39.679 Do you think that's a good way to go? Is 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:40.520 it helpful to look. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.280 At our own families like you just mentioned in your family, Yeah. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:49.199 Because like in my family, in my family, it's definitely 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.319 we tend to lose tissue there and that line gets 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.480 etched well, so, yeah, I think it's a way to 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.120 do that, but then you could look completely separate from 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.680 your family. So I think if a line is starting 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.160 to show and you're not making the expression and it's 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.640 really deep, that's something to consider. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.600 Sadly, my family also has expressive foreheads and no abs. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.559 I wish I had reversed acts. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.320 You also just hit on something I really want to 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.160 dive into because I think this might be helpful for 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.040 our audience. You said, you tell you're eleven year olds. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.520 They can't buy skincare with active ingredients. I hear this 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.960 from so many of our friends who have especially young teenagers. 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.280 It's like this skincare craze when I was in middle school, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.000 like we maybe used set a fill face wash and 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:49.440 that was it. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.480 I don't think I even use moisturizer. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.000 But now, because of social media, it's like getting skincare 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.480 is like having the Abercrombie T shirt when I was young, Like, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.520 they need these brands. So how do you What skincare 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.880 brands do you trust for young girls to have and 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.480 what ingredients should parents look for to avoid because it's 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.600 not right for their skin at this young age. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.000 What you allow your daughters to have, well, I love. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.560 Them like more like a set of fill type thing. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.520 I mean, I actually have skincare. But my bigger thing 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.880 is I'm a bigger proponent of massage. I feel like 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:30.280 that's something happening with like younger, younger generation, even everyone. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.880 I feel like our jawlines are changing because we're like 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.000 always in a forward tilt. So I'm a bigger fan 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:42.439 of like doing a massage type regime using lighter ingredients, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.880 more natural ingredients. And then it's like, why don't we 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.240 inject hyaluronic acid because you want to get the product 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.640 to penetrate. So there's something that's happening where it again 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.079 talking about like doing sit ups are almost when you're 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.280 always in a forward tilt, it causes like a shortening 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.720 of that muscle. And I feel like doing patient care 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.520 like people, this is becoming one plane because if you're 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:10.280 always engaged, like people's necks are actually widening. So even 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.480 my eleven year olds, they're you know, my son's on 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:17.559 that stupid Fortnite all the time, and and then everybody's 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.960 on school on the iPad, and then they're on their phones. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.760 You know, it just is what it is. I make 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.839 them go now it's summers and I'm making them go 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:24.920 outside as much as I can. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.000 Wow, I never thought about that because we're all looking 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.760 down literally, are like our skin is our muscles are 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.400 going that way, and our skin is sagury. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.160 We're going to look back, you know, like generations from now, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.440 centuries from now, they'll look at like our skeletons and 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.640 how like we're going to look skeletally very bizarre. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.520 Yeah, So I I have my I make my kids 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.760 like do like a facial roller and and that's just 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:54.599 like it's it's massage, it's getting uh, it's stimulating your lymphatic. 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.920 System, and they feel like they're doing something. They feel 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:58.839 like it's fun and it's something that they they're their 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.760 routine on me. Our daughter, same thing. She went to Sephora. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.680 She's now, you know, in her twenties, but at the 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.160 time she would go to Sephort all the time because 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.240 just but here's the difference. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.640 I think it's different though, even than when Taylor was younger. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.600 That used to be like, oh, I want to play 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.520 with makeup, but now young girls are like, I want 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.960 to go get like drunk Elephant and all these skincare 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.600 brands they're obsessed with drunk Elephant. I think it's just 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:29.120 because it's like colorful packaging. It just looks cute. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.280 You're right. I have one. You're right. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.000 I have one friend who let her daughter buy drunk 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.560 Elephant just because her daughter said, I want to be 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.719 able to put it out on my counter like esthetically, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.040 So she let her buy it, but she doesn't let 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:46.840 her use it because she's like nine, so so she 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.680 just puts it out there, kind of like how I 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.480 used to wear a shirt that's at Abercron, but it's 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.760 like the drunk elephant is out there. Are there any 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.120 ingredients parents with like preteens should really look like your 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.679 kids should not be using skincare with these ingredients and 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.520 a preteen age. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.000 Yeah, I think a lot of really high vitamin C 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:11.000 and black collids and things of that nature, because you 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.880 want to protect the skin's barrier. So that's why I'm 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.640 like a fan of more you know, natural ingredient deck 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.560 and then using massage. I just think that's like a 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.360 better way to go because you want to keep that 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:31.880 barrier intact. Because the scent that makes you more susceptible 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.720 to damage from the sun from free radicals, so your 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.880 skin is the largest organ on the body. Its main 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.000 function is to protect you, so you want to keep 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:44.200 that barrier intact, and you know it's it's too many 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.400 chemicals for you know, a virgin skin. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.120 Well, can we change the subject because I want to 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.000 talk about fillers? 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.440 Oh? Yes, because I have a quote. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.600 So that's so the most dramatic introduction fillers have ever. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.400 Had to about fillers because okay, so we have done. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.920 You know, botox has been around for two decades now. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.720 We have massive amounts of research on it and studies, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.320 and we have case studies because people have been using it. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.840 I don't think that is the case for fillers yet, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.520 am I sorry? 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:18.000 Am I? 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.480 Am I wrong there? Because we have not been using 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.640 it that long and I think we are. It seems 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.960 like in some of the research I'm seeing, we're finding 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.440 there might be some negative effects to this and that 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.880 it doesn't dissolve like we all just think, and that 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:35.720 it stays in our body and affects our lymphatic system. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:37.880 What are you finding? 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:44.080 Well, I mean again, I think it's it's it's like everything. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.560 I think that it can be good if it's used properly, 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:52.040 and it has been out for approximately not quite as long, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:56.280 but you know, because it was zyeplasts and ziderm, which 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.880 is like bovine dry you have to do and I 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.200 used to do it. When that's the case, you had 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.560 to get an allergy test on the inner aspect of 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.200 your arm. You came back and you did that. Now 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.560 you know, everybody uses hyaluronic acid. You know, they don't 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:15.120 even make any other stuff anymore, really, and you know, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.920 I I think it's a safe product. I just I've 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:23.600 always done it artistically, you know, And now I'm on trend, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.400 like I've always just done artistic placement. Like I guess 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.760 if I were a contractor like you would come to 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.440 me for restoration, not to build an addition. I'm just 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.560 I just that's just I don't excel in that. And 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.280 when you do it in that way, I don't think 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.400 I've in twenty years, like really ever had a problem. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.880 But again, and I do a technique that I a 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.880 trademark called baby drop technique. But I use a pediatric 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.280 gauge needle and I literally put it in droplets at 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.680 a time. So using that technique, I can't imagine having 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.320 an issue. But I never say never, But yeah, if 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.720 you put it too close to the surface, it doesn't 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.240 go away. It's just like almost like a varicose vein 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.600 where that blood becomes stagnant and kind of stays. That 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.800 filler can be there until the end, you know, So 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.520 it doesn't dissolve when it's placed in the wrong plane. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.359 If it's too superficial, it doesn't get enough blood flow, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.840 it can become necrotic. There's all kinds of issues from 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.720 improper placement, But in of itself, I think the product 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.879 is safe. It just has to be used in the 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:27.440 right way. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.720 Wow, So it's so important your provider, right, what do 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.560 you recommend people look for when they're finding a provider 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.880 to do fillers and botox and help them with this 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.439 anti aging journey we're all on. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.879 Well, I mean I always like it if there's instead 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.040 of just like social media, if you if you know 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.000 somebody that's actually gone there, you know, I think that 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.120 that's a better way to do. I mean that's how 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.200 I kind of choose my providers, is like usually through 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:58.040 like a personal referral instead of just like what so 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.960 and so has done, you know. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.320 Let somebody be the guinea pig for you. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.480 Yeah, wells say and someone who you know who looks 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.600 great and like as opposed to yes, someone you don't know. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:09.760 On social media, so. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:14.639 Many people are talking as if they are doctors, nurses, whatever, 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.439 you don't know, and they're giving you nutritional information and 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.199 work out you know, and some of them are brilliant. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.080 There's some amazing people and there's some great information out there. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.199 You're one of them. That's how we found you, and 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.280 we and we follow you. But the opposite of that 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.680 is very dangerous of what people recommend or what they say, 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.679 and you also have to think what are they selling 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.399 you know, who are they contracted by, and who are 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:38.080 they endorsing. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.040 I want to ask you. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.520 You mentioned lip fillers earlier, so this is maybe a 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.679 dumb question, but something I've wondered because Kylie Jenner just 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.560 came out and said she dissolved, partially dissolved her lip fillers, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.000 and she had kind of an emotional moment about it and. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:53.960 Tough journey she's been on. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.119 Well she got some much pushback from that. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:03.639 But but if you are someone who's done at a 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:08.720 younger age significant amount of lip filler, does that stretch 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.720 your skin and can you get that skin back? Or 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.320 is it like, once you start with a lot of 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.680 lip filler, you're kind of committing to that for many 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.119 years because you're literally stretching out your lips. 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.919 Yeah, it can just like like having too large of 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.560 a breasting planet. It definitely can stretch out the skin 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.280 or the lip, or it can cause some uneven texture. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.560 I mean there's things that you can do with like 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.119 laser and micro needling to kind of repair it. But 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.680 then yeah, there is things, Yeah, there can be damage 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:42.159 from that. So yeah, again, I guess it is like, 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.720 you know, slow and steady wins the race on that. Yeah, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.600 I don't think that young kids need to be doing 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.760 like lip filler or something like even it's you know, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:57.280 unless it's something that's uneven or like really traumatizing like 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.919 I've had, you know, like kids that have had like 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.920 left palette and things like that. So those are completely 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:03.879 different issues. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.000 What do you recommend age wise that I actually wanted 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.160 to ask you that we just had this incredible guy, 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.120 doctor Aiman, on our podcast and he was talking to 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:27.160 us about how the brain and including especially the decision 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.200 making part of the brain, isn't really fully developed until 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:34.280 you're about twenty five twenty six. So when you're I 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.440 don't know if you have patients this young or maybe 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.119 people bring even their kids in. 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.560