Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zeema Comany Today from the home
Speaker 1: office in Austin, Texas. Today's show is all about helping you,
Speaker 1: helping your skin, answering these urban myths we hear so
Speaker 1: much els on social media. Everybody pretends to be a
Speaker 1: medical expert when it comes to lift Filler's botox, everything
Speaker 1: that we're inundated with these days. We got to separate
Speaker 1: fact from fiction.
Speaker 2: Well, we really wanted to have this person on, especially
Speaker 2: after we had mentioned those Love Island photos, the cast
Speaker 2: photos that went kind of everywhere, and they were women
Speaker 2: in their twenties and even a plastic surgeon who looked
Speaker 2: at the photos thought they were ten years older or more.
Speaker 3: So, why is this happening?
Speaker 2: What is going on with injectables that were doing Filler's
Speaker 2: botox and a few other celebrity headlines with aesthetics that
Speaker 2: we wanted to get addressed and cleared up. So we
Speaker 2: have on today Nurse Jamie. If you've never heard her
Speaker 2: name before, a Nurse Jamie has been known.
Speaker 3: I'd heard her like on ET.
Speaker 2: We'd covered her many times before because she has been
Speaker 2: known as an absolute expert with tons of celebrity clients
Speaker 2: in the LA area for years. She's the owner of
Speaker 2: Beauty Park Medical Spa in Santa Monica in the LA Area,
Speaker 2: and she's been on you know, I mean everything from
Speaker 2: The Doctors to The Today's Show to Revenge Body. Uh,
Speaker 2: so many shows and for such a good reason to say.
Speaker 4: Her biggest show ever, your most dramatic podcast ever. And
Speaker 4: here she is to take some of the drama out
Speaker 4: of our faces. Nurse Jamie. Do you like to be
Speaker 4: called Can we just call you Jamie?
Speaker 5: You can just call me James.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not like your superhero name that you kind
Speaker 2: of are a superhero.
Speaker 1: You guys that have fet like to call her Nurse James.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. Yeah. No. I actually worked at a spa
Speaker 5: that Kirsten Duns and there were three Jamies. There was
Speaker 5: a nurse Jamie and massage Jamie and an esthetician Jamie.
Speaker 5: And I was the tallest one and they call me
Speaker 5: Big Jamie and.
Speaker 1: I was no, no, that's not gonna work, no, no.
Speaker 3: So that's the origin of Nurse Jamie.
Speaker 1: That's funny. That's like that was like all the years
Speaker 1: on the on the Bachelor, it was like, okay, we
Speaker 1: have five Laurens this season. Yes, so I would like
Speaker 1: to talk to massage Jamie and then Nurse Jamie and then.
Speaker 2: Actually that would have made more sense in The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: You guys did like Lauren B and Lauren Z. They
Speaker 2: should have just had nicknames.
Speaker 1: Like I used the Moniker from whatever the weird title
Speaker 1: we gave them.
Speaker 3: All Right, Well, by the way, nurse you don't want
Speaker 3: Nurse Jamie. I don't know if you've ever been asked this,
Speaker 3: are you? Did you ever watch The Bachelor?
Speaker 5: I did, of course.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what did you generally think of, like the women,
Speaker 2: especially as you saw them over the years. Could you
Speaker 2: see like the esthetic trends changing because each season it
Speaker 2: was this new crop of women who would come in, Like,
Speaker 2: could you start to be see like, oh, they're they're
Speaker 2: getting more botox now fillers are coming in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, I mean a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think a little a little. You could see tweets.
Speaker 1: Here and there, one of the big differences. It always
Speaker 1: happened inevitably because you know, nobody usually now it's changed
Speaker 1: because they can see themselves on camera so often. But
Speaker 1: back in the day, you wouldn't see yourself on television
Speaker 1: ever or on camera. They would inevitably see themselves on
Speaker 1: camera because they watched the show and then we would
Speaker 1: do the specials. There was like a good month or so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like they often would see themselves and go, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like my neck, I don't like this on
Speaker 1: TV and they would change. It was really interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah it is. It is jarring. Yeah show. I did
Speaker 5: show on Netflix and yeah, I thought I needed the
Speaker 5: biggest makeover. So yeah, I know, I know the feeling.
Speaker 2: I think that happens with Real Housewives too, like they'll
Speaker 2: come back the second season and they have changed quite a.
Speaker 5: Bit second season definitely.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel though that chasing that constantly can can
Speaker 1: be a detriment at some point because you know it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I could use some you know, botox something like that.
Speaker 1: But it's when you start chasing it and then you
Speaker 1: add on, now I want to do my nose, now,
Speaker 1: I want to do my cheeks, now I want to
Speaker 1: do Do you think that that kind of stacking effect
Speaker 1: and chasing it.
Speaker 3: Or maybe like how do you avoid that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think usually the person that is
Speaker 5: worried about it is usually doesn't have the problem, you know,
Speaker 5: the I think. I think it's like anything. I think,
Speaker 5: like donuts are delicious, but too many donuts are our problems.
Speaker 5: So I don't know. I think there's a way to
Speaker 5: do it. And you know, I always compare it to
Speaker 5: detailing your car and painting your house, Like why is
Speaker 5: it okay to do that? But you're supposed to feel
Speaker 5: bad about doing stuff for yourself, like for me, I
Speaker 5: just like, I don't think anybody else even notices. I
Speaker 5: just do things for me. But I mean my face
Speaker 5: I've been you know, I've been doing this for over
Speaker 5: twenty years. My face still moves, and I don't need
Speaker 5: to go to crazy town. But I also don't like
Speaker 5: to look like I feel sometimes.
Speaker 2: Well, one reason we really wanted to bring you on
Speaker 2: was we had talked about this in kind of a
Speaker 2: little news episode last week. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: saw these photos from the new season of Love Island
Speaker 2: of the cast members kind of went everywhere because people
Speaker 2: thought that they were so much older than they actually are.
Speaker 2: And actually then this video got big of a plastic
Speaker 2: surgeon like his team asked him to guess their ages
Speaker 2: and he was guessing they were like ten or twenty
Speaker 2: years older than they are, And at the end of
Speaker 2: the video he said, you know, sometimes work can make
Speaker 2: you look older, and that was one thing I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you about. Is like, I do feel that probably,
Speaker 2: and I don't blame people today, but it's because we're
Speaker 2: all constantly analyzing ourselves on iPhone cameras and on social
Speaker 2: media that people are getting more work done younger. And
Speaker 2: why is it, like what type of work, what's the
Speaker 2: wrong way to do it? Where people are making themselves
Speaker 2: look older at a young age.
Speaker 5: Well, I think I think sometimes it's adding too much.
Speaker 5: I think filler is sometimes the culprit or even just
Speaker 5: being Yeah, I think any of it can be too
Speaker 5: much when you're you know, when your forehead doubles is
Speaker 5: a mirror, or if you start doing filler when you
Speaker 5: don't really need it, it can you know, kind of
Speaker 5: stretch out the skin and age the face. And there's
Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that can happen. There's some
Speaker 5: right ways to do it. But then I guess, yeah,
Speaker 5: when you start looking like everyone starts looking what I
Speaker 5: call like a number thirty seven, like a similar face
Speaker 5: and it is start, it's hard to tell what their
Speaker 5: chronological age is.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed a push to grab the younger audience
Speaker 1: in pharmaceutical you know, in all of this stuff, whether
Speaker 1: it's botox fillers, whatever. I feel like this is almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, cigarettes, what's okay, we have all the old
Speaker 1: people smoking. What's the new frontier? We got to get
Speaker 1: young kids smoking. You know, let's let's create a cartoon
Speaker 1: camel and let's start selling it to kids.
Speaker 3: I feel like you forgot about the cartoon camera.
Speaker 1: I feel like this has started happening. With cosmetic surgeries
Speaker 1: and everything that we're doing. It's like, okay, kids, if
Speaker 1: you start doing this in your twenties.
Speaker 2: It's you're talking about the preventive mindset, Like if you
Speaker 2: need to get preventive.
Speaker 1: It's preventive. And I'm like, is in your mind is
Speaker 1: that legit or is it complete bullshit? Because the best
Speaker 1: you're going to look in your life is when you're
Speaker 1: in your twenties. That's when you got elasticity.
Speaker 3: College just depressing, Okay, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1: The prettiest we're going to be, but I mean as
Speaker 1: far as what's in your skin and what's in your
Speaker 1: body that you're the healthiest.
Speaker 5: I mean, I have eleven year old triplets, so yeah,
Speaker 5: they already are like watching you know, social media sometimes
Speaker 5: and I want to go to my two girls and
Speaker 5: one son, and my girls want to go to Suppora
Speaker 5: all the time. So and that's like off of social media,
Speaker 5: you know, trying to I can't believe how many times
Speaker 5: say want to go to Sephora, and even I am like,
Speaker 5: you're not buying skincare with active ingredients and that's like
Speaker 5: eleven year old. So I do think it's something to
Speaker 5: be aware of. I think that it's there's ways to
Speaker 5: do it. I started doing botox when I was probably
Speaker 5: twenty one, So I started doing it was young because
Speaker 5: I worked at a plastic surgeons and dermato. I worked
Speaker 5: for a group of dermatologists and I just always had
Speaker 5: a very expressive forehead. And I think that you can
Speaker 5: start doing things younger. It's just like you just have
Speaker 5: to it's you have to tread carefully. I think there's
Speaker 5: ways to do it, and that it actually is preventive
Speaker 5: because once the lines get edged, because it's just like
Speaker 5: if you do sit ups, like you get abs and
Speaker 5: if you're if you have a very expressive face and
Speaker 5: you actually lose the tissue there, then you would have
Speaker 5: to do filler or other things. So it can be preventative.
Speaker 5: But then there's also the thing where you can do
Speaker 5: it too much, where it like atro fees the muscle
Speaker 5: and then causes a separate issue. So it's just like
Speaker 5: there's a way to do it, but you have to
Speaker 5: do it right. You have to go to the right provider.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you just gave me the best. Thank you.
Speaker 2: That was the most helpful explanation I've heard yet because
Speaker 2: the abs thing, for example, because I had never really
Speaker 2: thought about that. You're right, like, if you're someone with
Speaker 2: a super expressive forehead, well then maybe younger makes more
Speaker 2: sense to you. My mom is always telling me. She's like, honey,
Speaker 2: you're me, you have my genetics.
Speaker 3: Look at me.
Speaker 2: She's like, I started botox in my fifties. Do you
Speaker 2: see any lines on my face?
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a good way to go? Is
Speaker 3: it helpful to look.
Speaker 2: At our own families like you just mentioned in your family, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Because like in my family, in my family, it's definitely
Speaker 5: we tend to lose tissue there and that line gets
Speaker 5: etched well, so, yeah, I think it's a way to
Speaker 5: do that, but then you could look completely separate from
Speaker 5: your family. So I think if a line is starting
Speaker 5: to show and you're not making the expression and it's
Speaker 5: really deep, that's something to consider.
Speaker 1: Sadly, my family also has expressive foreheads and no abs.
Speaker 1: I wish I had reversed acts.
Speaker 2: You also just hit on something I really want to
Speaker 2: dive into because I think this might be helpful for
Speaker 2: our audience. You said, you tell you're eleven year olds.
Speaker 2: They can't buy skincare with active ingredients. I hear this
Speaker 2: from so many of our friends who have especially young teenagers.
Speaker 2: It's like this skincare craze when I was in middle school,
Speaker 2: like we maybe used set a fill face wash and
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 3: I don't think I even use moisturizer.
Speaker 2: But now, because of social media, it's like getting skincare
Speaker 2: is like having the Abercrombie T shirt when I was young, Like,
Speaker 2: they need these brands. So how do you What skincare
Speaker 2: brands do you trust for young girls to have and
Speaker 2: what ingredients should parents look for to avoid because it's
Speaker 2: not right for their skin at this young age.
Speaker 1: What you allow your daughters to have, well, I love.
Speaker 5: Them like more like a set of fill type thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, I actually have skincare. But my bigger thing
Speaker 5: is I'm a bigger proponent of massage. I feel like
Speaker 5: that's something happening with like younger, younger generation, even everyone.
Speaker 5: I feel like our jawlines are changing because we're like
Speaker 5: always in a forward tilt. So I'm a bigger fan
Speaker 5: of like doing a massage type regime using lighter ingredients,
Speaker 5: more natural ingredients. And then it's like, why don't we
Speaker 5: inject hyaluronic acid because you want to get the product
Speaker 5: to penetrate. So there's something that's happening where it again
Speaker 5: talking about like doing sit ups are almost when you're
Speaker 5: always in a forward tilt, it causes like a shortening
Speaker 5: of that muscle. And I feel like doing patient care
Speaker 5: like people, this is becoming one plane because if you're
Speaker 5: always engaged, like people's necks are actually widening. So even
Speaker 5: my eleven year olds, they're you know, my son's on
Speaker 5: that stupid Fortnite all the time, and and then everybody's
Speaker 5: on school on the iPad, and then they're on their phones.
Speaker 5: You know, it just is what it is. I make
Speaker 5: them go now it's summers and I'm making them go
Speaker 5: outside as much as I can.
Speaker 2: Wow, I never thought about that because we're all looking
Speaker 2: down literally, are like our skin is our muscles are
Speaker 2: going that way, and our skin is sagury.
Speaker 1: We're going to look back, you know, like generations from now,
Speaker 1: centuries from now, they'll look at like our skeletons and
Speaker 1: how like we're going to look skeletally very bizarre.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I I have my I make my kids
Speaker 5: like do like a facial roller and and that's just
Speaker 5: like it's it's massage, it's getting uh, it's stimulating your lymphatic.
Speaker 1: System, and they feel like they're doing something. They feel
Speaker 1: like it's fun and it's something that they they're their
Speaker 1: routine on me. Our daughter, same thing. She went to Sephora.
Speaker 1: She's now, you know, in her twenties, but at the
Speaker 1: time she would go to Sephort all the time because
Speaker 1: just but here's the difference.
Speaker 2: I think it's different though, even than when Taylor was younger.
Speaker 2: That used to be like, oh, I want to play
Speaker 2: with makeup, but now young girls are like, I want
Speaker 2: to go get like drunk Elephant and all these skincare
Speaker 2: brands they're obsessed with drunk Elephant. I think it's just
Speaker 2: because it's like colorful packaging. It just looks cute.
Speaker 3: You're right. I have one. You're right.
Speaker 2: I have one friend who let her daughter buy drunk
Speaker 2: Elephant just because her daughter said, I want to be
Speaker 2: able to put it out on my counter like esthetically,
Speaker 2: So she let her buy it, but she doesn't let
Speaker 2: her use it because she's like nine, so so she
Speaker 2: just puts it out there, kind of like how I
Speaker 2: used to wear a shirt that's at Abercron, but it's
Speaker 2: like the drunk elephant is out there. Are there any
Speaker 2: ingredients parents with like preteens should really look like your
Speaker 2: kids should not be using skincare with these ingredients and
Speaker 2: a preteen age.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of really high vitamin C
Speaker 5: and black collids and things of that nature, because you
Speaker 5: want to protect the skin's barrier. So that's why I'm
Speaker 5: like a fan of more you know, natural ingredient deck
Speaker 5: and then using massage. I just think that's like a
Speaker 5: better way to go because you want to keep that
Speaker 5: barrier intact. Because the scent that makes you more susceptible
Speaker 5: to damage from the sun from free radicals, so your
Speaker 5: skin is the largest organ on the body. Its main
Speaker 5: function is to protect you, so you want to keep
Speaker 5: that barrier intact, and you know it's it's too many
Speaker 5: chemicals for you know, a virgin skin.
Speaker 1: Well, can we change the subject because I want to
Speaker 1: talk about fillers?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, because I have a quote.
Speaker 2: So that's so the most dramatic introduction fillers have ever.
Speaker 1: Had to about fillers because okay, so we have done.
Speaker 1: You know, botox has been around for two decades now.
Speaker 1: We have massive amounts of research on it and studies,
Speaker 1: and we have case studies because people have been using it.
Speaker 1: I don't think that is the case for fillers yet,
Speaker 1: am I sorry?
Speaker 5: Am I?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong there? Because we have not been using
Speaker 1: it that long and I think we are. It seems
Speaker 1: like in some of the research I'm seeing, we're finding
Speaker 1: there might be some negative effects to this and that
Speaker 1: it doesn't dissolve like we all just think, and that
Speaker 1: it stays in our body and affects our lymphatic system.
Speaker 1: What are you finding?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean again, I think it's it's it's like everything.
Speaker 5: I think that it can be good if it's used properly,
Speaker 5: and it has been out for approximately not quite as long,
Speaker 5: but you know, because it was zyeplasts and ziderm, which
Speaker 5: is like bovine dry you have to do and I
Speaker 5: used to do it. When that's the case, you had
Speaker 5: to get an allergy test on the inner aspect of
Speaker 5: your arm. You came back and you did that. Now
Speaker 5: you know, everybody uses hyaluronic acid. You know, they don't
Speaker 5: even make any other stuff anymore, really, and you know,
Speaker 5: I I think it's a safe product. I just I've
Speaker 5: always done it artistically, you know, And now I'm on trend,
Speaker 5: like I've always just done artistic placement. Like I guess
Speaker 5: if I were a contractor like you would come to
Speaker 5: me for restoration, not to build an addition. I'm just
Speaker 5: I just that's just I don't excel in that. And
Speaker 5: when you do it in that way, I don't think
Speaker 5: I've in twenty years, like really ever had a problem.
Speaker 5: But again, and I do a technique that I a
Speaker 5: trademark called baby drop technique. But I use a pediatric
Speaker 5: gauge needle and I literally put it in droplets at
Speaker 5: a time. So using that technique, I can't imagine having
Speaker 5: an issue. But I never say never, But yeah, if
Speaker 5: you put it too close to the surface, it doesn't
Speaker 5: go away. It's just like almost like a varicose vein
Speaker 5: where that blood becomes stagnant and kind of stays. That
Speaker 5: filler can be there until the end, you know, So
Speaker 5: it doesn't dissolve when it's placed in the wrong plane.
Speaker 5: If it's too superficial, it doesn't get enough blood flow,
Speaker 5: it can become necrotic. There's all kinds of issues from
Speaker 5: improper placement, But in of itself, I think the product
Speaker 5: is safe. It just has to be used in the
Speaker 5: right way.
Speaker 2: Wow, So it's so important your provider, right, what do
Speaker 2: you recommend people look for when they're finding a provider
Speaker 2: to do fillers and botox and help them with this
Speaker 2: anti aging journey we're all on.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I always like it if there's instead
Speaker 5: of just like social media, if you if you know
Speaker 5: somebody that's actually gone there, you know, I think that
Speaker 5: that's a better way to do. I mean that's how
Speaker 5: I kind of choose my providers, is like usually through
Speaker 5: like a personal referral instead of just like what so
Speaker 5: and so has done, you know.
Speaker 1: Let somebody be the guinea pig for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wells say and someone who you know who looks
Speaker 2: great and like as opposed to yes, someone you don't know.
Speaker 2: On social media, so.
Speaker 1: Many people are talking as if they are doctors, nurses, whatever,
Speaker 1: you don't know, and they're giving you nutritional information and
Speaker 1: work out you know, and some of them are brilliant.
Speaker 1: There's some amazing people and there's some great information out there.
Speaker 1: You're one of them. That's how we found you, and
Speaker 1: we and we follow you. But the opposite of that
Speaker 1: is very dangerous of what people recommend or what they say,
Speaker 1: and you also have to think what are they selling
Speaker 1: you know, who are they contracted by, and who are
Speaker 1: they endorsing.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you.
Speaker 2: You mentioned lip fillers earlier, so this is maybe a
Speaker 2: dumb question, but something I've wondered because Kylie Jenner just
Speaker 2: came out and said she dissolved, partially dissolved her lip fillers,
Speaker 2: and she had kind of an emotional moment about it and.
Speaker 1: Tough journey she's been on.
Speaker 3: Well she got some much pushback from that.
Speaker 2: But but if you are someone who's done at a
Speaker 2: younger age significant amount of lip filler, does that stretch
Speaker 2: your skin and can you get that skin back? Or
Speaker 2: is it like, once you start with a lot of
Speaker 2: lip filler, you're kind of committing to that for many
Speaker 2: years because you're literally stretching out your lips.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it can just like like having too large of
Speaker 5: a breasting planet. It definitely can stretch out the skin
Speaker 5: or the lip, or it can cause some uneven texture.
Speaker 5: I mean there's things that you can do with like
Speaker 5: laser and micro needling to kind of repair it. But
Speaker 5: then yeah, there is things, Yeah, there can be damage
Speaker 5: from that. So yeah, again, I guess it is like,
Speaker 5: you know, slow and steady wins the race on that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't think that young kids need to be doing
Speaker 5: like lip filler or something like even it's you know,
Speaker 5: unless it's something that's uneven or like really traumatizing like
Speaker 5: I've had, you know, like kids that have had like
Speaker 5: left palette and things like that. So those are completely
Speaker 5: different issues.
Speaker 2: What do you recommend age wise that I actually wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you that we just had this incredible guy,
Speaker 2: doctor Aiman, on our podcast and he was talking to
Speaker 2: us about how the brain and including especially the decision
Speaker 2: making part of the brain, isn't really fully developed until
Speaker 2: you're about twenty five twenty six. So when you're I
Speaker 2: don't know if you have patients this young or maybe
Speaker 2: people bring even their kids in.
Speaker 3: But say somebody comes in and they're.
Speaker 2: Eighteen nineteen and they want, like any a nose job
Speaker 2: or a boob job or anything.
Speaker 3: How do you think that should be handled?
Speaker 2: Is that something where especially I guess from the question
Speaker 2: of like is your body fully developed at that point
Speaker 2: or if you're nineteen or you maybe still going to
Speaker 2: change a couple more years, and maybe you should wait
Speaker 2: on the nose job.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I say this as someone who
Speaker 3: I've had a.
Speaker 2: No so like I'm totally I think if something's really
Speaker 2: bothering you, like get you know, make yourself happy if
Speaker 2: it's been an issue for years.
Speaker 3: But how do you have that conversation with.
Speaker 2: Someone who's maybe in their late or teens or around
Speaker 2: that age.
Speaker 1: Is the're an adult but not really?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Right, I mean I think that we're all little
Speaker 5: snowflakes and you have to kind of take that individually,
Speaker 5: like it's something that really affects someone, you have to
Speaker 5: consider that if it affects their self esteem. And I
Speaker 5: think that it's a case by case thing, the nose thing,
Speaker 5: because I think I know I remember like having a
Speaker 5: girlfriend that did it before college, and that was like
Speaker 5: a big thing for her and it really kind of
Speaker 5: changed her life. So, because I don't do no surgery,
Speaker 5: I don't have like intimate experience on that. But I'm
Speaker 5: not necessarily opposed to it as as some might be
Speaker 5: if it's you know, if it's if they really feel
Speaker 5: passionately about it, and you know, I think you have
Speaker 5: to listen to you to your children on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I have one last question for you.
Speaker 2: One worse little celebrity headline. Christin Cavaleri made a lot
Speaker 2: of drama a couple of weeks ago, and she said
Speaker 2: that she does not wear sunscreen, and she said we
Speaker 2: spend too much time. Well, I think she was having
Speaker 2: a conversation about people spending too much time indoors now
Speaker 2: and the sun gives us nourishment and we should be
Speaker 2: out in the sun more. And she says she doesn't
Speaker 2: wear sunscreen. Where what would be your response to that
Speaker 2: as someone who works with people's skin, Like, is there
Speaker 2: some we should be getting a little more natural sunlight
Speaker 2: and should we wear sunscreen?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I do agree with sunscreen. I think
Speaker 5: if you're out for short term, you know, I think it.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's okay. There is something some points to like
Speaker 5: not getting enough vitamin D, but you're still getting vitamin
Speaker 5: D absorption with sunscreen. But yeah, I mean there's points
Speaker 5: to both of those are But I mean, I can't
Speaker 5: tell people not to wear it sunscreen, so yeah, I
Speaker 5: just wouldn't you know, I would. I don't know, but
Speaker 5: I am. I will be honest and say I'm not
Speaker 5: the most draconian about it myself, but I'm also not
Speaker 5: out in the sun as much as I should be either, Right,
Speaker 5: I'm the one locking my kids up, but not out
Speaker 5: there myself.
Speaker 2: That's right, especially during the summer. Well, Nurse Jamie, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. Now you mentioned you have a skincare line.
Speaker 3: What is that line?
Speaker 5: It's called Nurse Jamie. But I'm going to send you
Speaker 5: guys rollers because I'm telling you it's something you should
Speaker 5: be doing, because it happens. And I'm sure just being
Speaker 5: on podcasts being like editing your you're in your head
Speaker 5: isn't a forward tilt. It's like my new little soapbox.
Speaker 5: Because I think that not just it's not just my patience,
Speaker 5: but like I said, even my kids like that. It
Speaker 5: is the thing they say that it's you know, our
Speaker 5: jaw lines are changing because we're eating less meat and
Speaker 5: different things. But I swear, as a provider doing patient
Speaker 5: care over twenty years, I've noticed that the nets are
Speaker 5: we having almost the same width as a jaw line.
Speaker 1: Where can we find those?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So you have your own roller?
Speaker 5: Yes? I do. Yes, Nurse Jamie dot com.
Speaker 1: Nurse Jamie dot com. What's the name of the roller?
Speaker 1: Does it have like a really on the uplift?
Speaker 3: Hey, let's get uplifted. I'm ready.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going to send it to you guys.
Speaker 2: Please do I Oh my gosh, it's truly thank you
Speaker 2: so much because I mean, I knew I've heard your
Speaker 2: name for so long being in celebrity news, and I
Speaker 2: some of what you said today was the most poignant, simple,
Speaker 2: clear way I've heard it.
Speaker 3: So thank you so much, and I can't wait to
Speaker 3: try the roller.
Speaker 1: Bliss right, my nurse Jamie. He massage Jamie, A totally
Speaker 1: different Jamie. Different Jamie Jamie. Even though it is a massage,
Speaker 1: it's that's a different Jamie.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Jamie.
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