1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zeema Comany Today from the home 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: office in Austin, Texas. Today's show is all about helping you, 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: helping your skin, answering these urban myths we hear so 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: much els on social media. Everybody pretends to be a 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: medical expert when it comes to lift Filler's botox, everything 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: that we're inundated with these days. We got to separate 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: fact from fiction. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, we really wanted to have this person on, especially 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: after we had mentioned those Love Island photos, the cast 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: photos that went kind of everywhere, and they were women 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: in their twenties and even a plastic surgeon who looked 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: at the photos thought they were ten years older or more. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: So, why is this happening? 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: What is going on with injectables that were doing Filler's 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: botox and a few other celebrity headlines with aesthetics that 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: we wanted to get addressed and cleared up. So we 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: have on today Nurse Jamie. If you've never heard her 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: name before, a Nurse Jamie has been known. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: I'd heard her like on ET. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: We'd covered her many times before because she has been 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: known as an absolute expert with tons of celebrity clients 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: in the LA area for years. She's the owner of 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: Beauty Park Medical Spa in Santa Monica in the LA Area, 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: and she's been on you know, I mean everything from 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: The Doctors to The Today's Show to Revenge Body. Uh, 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: so many shows and for such a good reason to say. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: Her biggest show ever, your most dramatic podcast ever. And 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: here she is to take some of the drama out 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: of our faces. Nurse Jamie. Do you like to be 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 4: called Can we just call you Jamie? 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 5: You can just call me James. 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not like your superhero name that you kind 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: of are a superhero. 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: You guys that have fet like to call her Nurse James. 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: That's awesome. Yeah. No. I actually worked at a spa 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 5: that Kirsten Duns and there were three Jamies. There was 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: a nurse Jamie and massage Jamie and an esthetician Jamie. 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: And I was the tallest one and they call me 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: Big Jamie and. 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: I was no, no, that's not gonna work, no, no. 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: So that's the origin of Nurse Jamie. 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: That's funny. That's like that was like all the years 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: on the on the Bachelor, it was like, okay, we 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: have five Laurens this season. Yes, so I would like 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: to talk to massage Jamie and then Nurse Jamie and then. 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Actually that would have made more sense in The Bachelor. 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: You guys did like Lauren B and Lauren Z. They 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: should have just had nicknames. 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Like I used the Moniker from whatever the weird title 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: we gave them. 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: All Right, Well, by the way, nurse you don't want 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: Nurse Jamie. I don't know if you've ever been asked this, 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: are you? Did you ever watch The Bachelor? 55 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 5: I did, of course. 56 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So what did you generally think of, like the women, 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: especially as you saw them over the years. Could you 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: see like the esthetic trends changing because each season it 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: was this new crop of women who would come in, Like, 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: could you start to be see like, oh, they're they're 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: getting more botox now fillers are coming in. 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, I mean a little bit, yeah, 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: I think a little a little. You could see tweets. 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Here and there, one of the big differences. It always 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: happened inevitably because you know, nobody usually now it's changed 66 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: because they can see themselves on camera so often. But 67 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: back in the day, you wouldn't see yourself on television 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: ever or on camera. They would inevitably see themselves on 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: camera because they watched the show and then we would 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: do the specials. There was like a good month or so. Yeah, 71 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: it was like they often would see themselves and go, oh, 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't like my neck, I don't like this on 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: TV and they would change. It was really interesting. 74 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah it is. It is jarring. Yeah show. I did 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: show on Netflix and yeah, I thought I needed the 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: biggest makeover. So yeah, I know, I know the feeling. 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: I think that happens with Real Housewives too, like they'll 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: come back the second season and they have changed quite a. 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: Bit second season definitely. 80 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Don't you feel though that chasing that constantly can can 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: be a detriment at some point because you know it's like, okay, 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: maybe I could use some you know, botox something like that. 83 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: But it's when you start chasing it and then you 84 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: add on, now I want to do my nose, now, 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: I want to do my cheeks, now I want to 86 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: do Do you think that that kind of stacking effect 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: and chasing it. 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: Or maybe like how do you avoid that? 89 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think usually the person that is 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 5: worried about it is usually doesn't have the problem, you know, 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: the I think. I think it's like anything. I think, 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 5: like donuts are delicious, but too many donuts are our problems. 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 5: So I don't know. I think there's a way to 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 5: do it. And you know, I always compare it to 96 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: detailing your car and painting your house, Like why is 97 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: it okay to do that? But you're supposed to feel 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 5: bad about doing stuff for yourself, like for me, I 99 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: just like, I don't think anybody else even notices. I 100 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 5: just do things for me. But I mean my face 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 5: I've been you know, I've been doing this for over 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 5: twenty years. My face still moves, and I don't need 103 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 5: to go to crazy town. But I also don't like 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 5: to look like I feel sometimes. 105 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: Well, one reason we really wanted to bring you on 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: was we had talked about this in kind of a 107 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: little news episode last week. I don't know if you 108 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: saw these photos from the new season of Love Island 109 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: of the cast members kind of went everywhere because people 110 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: thought that they were so much older than they actually are. 111 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: And actually then this video got big of a plastic 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: surgeon like his team asked him to guess their ages 113 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: and he was guessing they were like ten or twenty 114 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: years older than they are, And at the end of 115 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: the video he said, you know, sometimes work can make 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: you look older, and that was one thing I wanted 117 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: to ask you about. Is like, I do feel that probably, 118 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: and I don't blame people today, but it's because we're 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: all constantly analyzing ourselves on iPhone cameras and on social 120 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: media that people are getting more work done younger. And 121 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: why is it, like what type of work, what's the 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: wrong way to do it? Where people are making themselves 123 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 2: look older at a young age. 124 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: Well, I think I think sometimes it's adding too much. 125 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: I think filler is sometimes the culprit or even just 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: being Yeah, I think any of it can be too 127 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: much when you're you know, when your forehead doubles is 128 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 5: a mirror, or if you start doing filler when you 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: don't really need it, it can you know, kind of 130 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 5: stretch out the skin and age the face. And there's 131 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that can happen. There's some 132 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: right ways to do it. But then I guess, yeah, 133 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: when you start looking like everyone starts looking what I 134 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 5: call like a number thirty seven, like a similar face 135 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: and it is start, it's hard to tell what their 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 5: chronological age is. 137 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Have you noticed a push to grab the younger audience 138 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: in pharmaceutical you know, in all of this stuff, whether 139 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: it's botox fillers, whatever. I feel like this is almost like, 140 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, cigarettes, what's okay, we have all the old 141 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: people smoking. What's the new frontier? We got to get 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: young kids smoking. You know, let's let's create a cartoon 143 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: camel and let's start selling it to kids. 144 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: I feel like you forgot about the cartoon camera. 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: I feel like this has started happening. With cosmetic surgeries 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: and everything that we're doing. It's like, okay, kids, if 147 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: you start doing this in your twenties. 148 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: It's you're talking about the preventive mindset, Like if you 149 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: need to get preventive. 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: It's preventive. And I'm like, is in your mind is 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: that legit or is it complete bullshit? Because the best 152 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: you're going to look in your life is when you're 153 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: in your twenties. That's when you got elasticity. 154 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: College just depressing, Okay, I mean it's not. 155 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: The prettiest we're going to be, but I mean as 156 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: far as what's in your skin and what's in your 157 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: body that you're the healthiest. 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I have eleven year old triplets, so yeah, 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 5: they already are like watching you know, social media sometimes 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 5: and I want to go to my two girls and 161 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: one son, and my girls want to go to Suppora 162 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: all the time. So and that's like off of social media, 163 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 5: you know, trying to I can't believe how many times 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: say want to go to Sephora, and even I am like, 165 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 5: you're not buying skincare with active ingredients and that's like 166 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: eleven year old. So I do think it's something to 167 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: be aware of. I think that it's there's ways to 168 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: do it. I started doing botox when I was probably 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 5: twenty one, So I started doing it was young because 170 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: I worked at a plastic surgeons and dermato. I worked 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 5: for a group of dermatologists and I just always had 172 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 5: a very expressive forehead. And I think that you can 173 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: start doing things younger. It's just like you just have 174 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: to it's you have to tread carefully. I think there's 175 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,479 Speaker 5: ways to do it, and that it actually is preventive 176 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: because once the lines get edged, because it's just like 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: if you do sit ups, like you get abs and 178 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: if you're if you have a very expressive face and 179 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 5: you actually lose the tissue there, then you would have 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 5: to do filler or other things. So it can be preventative. 181 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: But then there's also the thing where you can do 182 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: it too much, where it like atro fees the muscle 183 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 5: and then causes a separate issue. So it's just like 184 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: there's a way to do it, but you have to 185 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: do it right. You have to go to the right provider. 186 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you just gave me the best. Thank you. 187 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: That was the most helpful explanation I've heard yet because 188 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: the abs thing, for example, because I had never really 189 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: thought about that. You're right, like, if you're someone with 190 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: a super expressive forehead, well then maybe younger makes more 191 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: sense to you. My mom is always telling me. She's like, honey, 192 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: you're me, you have my genetics. 193 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Look at me. 194 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: She's like, I started botox in my fifties. Do you 195 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: see any lines on my face? 196 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: Do you think that's a good way to go? Is 197 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: it helpful to look. 198 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: At our own families like you just mentioned in your family, Yeah. 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 5: Because like in my family, in my family, it's definitely 200 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 5: we tend to lose tissue there and that line gets 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 5: etched well, so, yeah, I think it's a way to 202 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 5: do that, but then you could look completely separate from 203 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 5: your family. So I think if a line is starting 204 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 5: to show and you're not making the expression and it's 205 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: really deep, that's something to consider. 206 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Sadly, my family also has expressive foreheads and no abs. 207 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: I wish I had reversed acts. 208 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: You also just hit on something I really want to 209 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: dive into because I think this might be helpful for 210 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: our audience. You said, you tell you're eleven year olds. 211 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: They can't buy skincare with active ingredients. I hear this 212 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: from so many of our friends who have especially young teenagers. 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: It's like this skincare craze when I was in middle school, 214 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: like we maybe used set a fill face wash and 215 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: that was it. 216 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: I don't think I even use moisturizer. 217 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: But now, because of social media, it's like getting skincare 218 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: is like having the Abercrombie T shirt when I was young, Like, 219 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: they need these brands. So how do you What skincare 220 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: brands do you trust for young girls to have and 221 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: what ingredients should parents look for to avoid because it's 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: not right for their skin at this young age. 223 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: What you allow your daughters to have, well, I love. 224 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 5: Them like more like a set of fill type thing. 225 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I actually have skincare. But my bigger thing 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: is I'm a bigger proponent of massage. I feel like 227 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 5: that's something happening with like younger, younger generation, even everyone. 228 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 5: I feel like our jawlines are changing because we're like 229 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 5: always in a forward tilt. So I'm a bigger fan 230 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 5: of like doing a massage type regime using lighter ingredients, 231 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: more natural ingredients. And then it's like, why don't we 232 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: inject hyaluronic acid because you want to get the product 233 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 5: to penetrate. So there's something that's happening where it again 234 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 5: talking about like doing sit ups are almost when you're 235 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: always in a forward tilt, it causes like a shortening 236 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: of that muscle. And I feel like doing patient care 237 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: like people, this is becoming one plane because if you're 238 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 5: always engaged, like people's necks are actually widening. So even 239 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: my eleven year olds, they're you know, my son's on 240 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 5: that stupid Fortnite all the time, and and then everybody's 241 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 5: on school on the iPad, and then they're on their phones. 242 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 5: You know, it just is what it is. I make 243 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 5: them go now it's summers and I'm making them go 244 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: outside as much as I can. 245 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I never thought about that because we're all looking 246 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: down literally, are like our skin is our muscles are 247 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: going that way, and our skin is sagury. 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: We're going to look back, you know, like generations from now, 249 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: centuries from now, they'll look at like our skeletons and 250 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: how like we're going to look skeletally very bizarre. 251 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I I have my I make my kids 252 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: like do like a facial roller and and that's just 253 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 5: like it's it's massage, it's getting uh, it's stimulating your lymphatic. 254 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: System, and they feel like they're doing something. They feel 255 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: like it's fun and it's something that they they're their 256 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: routine on me. Our daughter, same thing. She went to Sephora. 257 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: She's now, you know, in her twenties, but at the 258 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: time she would go to Sephort all the time because 259 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: just but here's the difference. 260 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: I think it's different though, even than when Taylor was younger. 261 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: That used to be like, oh, I want to play 262 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: with makeup, but now young girls are like, I want 263 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: to go get like drunk Elephant and all these skincare 264 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: brands they're obsessed with drunk Elephant. I think it's just 265 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: because it's like colorful packaging. It just looks cute. 266 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: You're right. I have one. You're right. 267 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: I have one friend who let her daughter buy drunk 268 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: Elephant just because her daughter said, I want to be 269 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 2: able to put it out on my counter like esthetically, 270 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: So she let her buy it, but she doesn't let 271 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: her use it because she's like nine, so so she 272 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: just puts it out there, kind of like how I 273 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: used to wear a shirt that's at Abercron, but it's 274 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: like the drunk elephant is out there. Are there any 275 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: ingredients parents with like preteens should really look like your 276 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: kids should not be using skincare with these ingredients and 277 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: a preteen age. 278 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of really high vitamin C 279 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: and black collids and things of that nature, because you 280 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: want to protect the skin's barrier. So that's why I'm 281 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: like a fan of more you know, natural ingredient deck 282 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: and then using massage. I just think that's like a 283 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: better way to go because you want to keep that 284 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 5: barrier intact. Because the scent that makes you more susceptible 285 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: to damage from the sun from free radicals, so your 286 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: skin is the largest organ on the body. Its main 287 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: function is to protect you, so you want to keep 288 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: that barrier intact, and you know it's it's too many 289 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 5: chemicals for you know, a virgin skin. 290 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Well, can we change the subject because I want to 291 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: talk about fillers? 292 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, because I have a quote. 293 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: So that's so the most dramatic introduction fillers have ever. 294 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Had to about fillers because okay, so we have done. 295 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: You know, botox has been around for two decades now. 296 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: We have massive amounts of research on it and studies, 297 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: and we have case studies because people have been using it. 298 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that is the case for fillers yet, 299 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: am I sorry? 300 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 5: Am I? 301 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Am I wrong there? Because we have not been using 302 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: it that long and I think we are. It seems 303 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: like in some of the research I'm seeing, we're finding 304 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: there might be some negative effects to this and that 305 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't dissolve like we all just think, and that 306 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: it stays in our body and affects our lymphatic system. 307 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: What are you finding? 308 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: Well, I mean again, I think it's it's it's like everything. 309 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: I think that it can be good if it's used properly, 310 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: and it has been out for approximately not quite as long, 311 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: but you know, because it was zyeplasts and ziderm, which 312 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: is like bovine dry you have to do and I 313 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: used to do it. When that's the case, you had 314 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 5: to get an allergy test on the inner aspect of 315 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: your arm. You came back and you did that. Now 316 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: you know, everybody uses hyaluronic acid. You know, they don't 317 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 5: even make any other stuff anymore, really, and you know, 318 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: I I think it's a safe product. I just I've 319 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 5: always done it artistically, you know, And now I'm on trend, 320 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: like I've always just done artistic placement. Like I guess 321 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: if I were a contractor like you would come to 322 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: me for restoration, not to build an addition. I'm just 323 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 5: I just that's just I don't excel in that. And 324 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: when you do it in that way, I don't think 325 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 5: I've in twenty years, like really ever had a problem. 326 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 5: But again, and I do a technique that I a 327 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: trademark called baby drop technique. But I use a pediatric 328 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: gauge needle and I literally put it in droplets at 329 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: a time. So using that technique, I can't imagine having 330 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: an issue. But I never say never, But yeah, if 331 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: you put it too close to the surface, it doesn't 332 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 5: go away. It's just like almost like a varicose vein 333 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: where that blood becomes stagnant and kind of stays. That 334 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: filler can be there until the end, you know, So 335 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 5: it doesn't dissolve when it's placed in the wrong plane. 336 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: If it's too superficial, it doesn't get enough blood flow, 337 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: it can become necrotic. There's all kinds of issues from 338 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: improper placement, But in of itself, I think the product 339 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 5: is safe. It just has to be used in the 340 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 5: right way. 341 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: Wow, So it's so important your provider, right, what do 342 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: you recommend people look for when they're finding a provider 343 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: to do fillers and botox and help them with this 344 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: anti aging journey we're all on. 345 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I always like it if there's instead 346 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 5: of just like social media, if you if you know 347 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 5: somebody that's actually gone there, you know, I think that 348 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 5: that's a better way to do. I mean that's how 349 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 5: I kind of choose my providers, is like usually through 350 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 5: like a personal referral instead of just like what so 351 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: and so has done, you know. 352 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Let somebody be the guinea pig for you. 353 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, wells say and someone who you know who looks 354 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: great and like as opposed to yes, someone you don't know. 355 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: On social media, so. 356 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: Many people are talking as if they are doctors, nurses, whatever, 357 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: you don't know, and they're giving you nutritional information and 358 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: work out you know, and some of them are brilliant. 359 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: There's some amazing people and there's some great information out there. 360 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: You're one of them. That's how we found you, and 361 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: we and we follow you. But the opposite of that 362 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: is very dangerous of what people recommend or what they say, 363 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: and you also have to think what are they selling 364 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: you know, who are they contracted by, and who are 365 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: they endorsing. 366 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: I want to ask you. 367 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: You mentioned lip fillers earlier, so this is maybe a 368 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: dumb question, but something I've wondered because Kylie Jenner just 369 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: came out and said she dissolved, partially dissolved her lip fillers, 370 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: and she had kind of an emotional moment about it and. 371 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Tough journey she's been on. 372 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: Well she got some much pushback from that. 373 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: But but if you are someone who's done at a 374 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: younger age significant amount of lip filler, does that stretch 375 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: your skin and can you get that skin back? Or 376 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: is it like, once you start with a lot of 377 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: lip filler, you're kind of committing to that for many 378 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: years because you're literally stretching out your lips. 379 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it can just like like having too large of 380 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 5: a breasting planet. It definitely can stretch out the skin 381 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 5: or the lip, or it can cause some uneven texture. 382 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: I mean there's things that you can do with like 383 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 5: laser and micro needling to kind of repair it. But 384 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: then yeah, there is things, Yeah, there can be damage 385 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: from that. So yeah, again, I guess it is like, 386 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: you know, slow and steady wins the race on that. Yeah, 387 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: I don't think that young kids need to be doing 388 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: like lip filler or something like even it's you know, 389 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 5: unless it's something that's uneven or like really traumatizing like 390 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 5: I've had, you know, like kids that have had like 391 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 5: left palette and things like that. So those are completely 392 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: different issues. 393 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: What do you recommend age wise that I actually wanted 394 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: to ask you that we just had this incredible guy, 395 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: doctor Aiman, on our podcast and he was talking to 396 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: us about how the brain and including especially the decision 397 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: making part of the brain, isn't really fully developed until 398 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: you're about twenty five twenty six. So when you're I 399 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: don't know if you have patients this young or maybe 400 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: people bring even their kids in. 401 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: But say somebody comes in and they're. 402 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: Eighteen nineteen and they want, like any a nose job 403 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: or a boob job or anything. 404 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: How do you think that should be handled? 405 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: Is that something where especially I guess from the question 406 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: of like is your body fully developed at that point 407 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: or if you're nineteen or you maybe still going to 408 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: change a couple more years, and maybe you should wait 409 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: on the nose job. 410 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, I say this as someone who 411 00:20:59,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: I've had a. 412 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: No so like I'm totally I think if something's really 413 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: bothering you, like get you know, make yourself happy if 414 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: it's been an issue for years. 415 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: But how do you have that conversation with. 416 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: Someone who's maybe in their late or teens or around 417 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: that age. 418 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: Is the're an adult but not really? 419 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? Right, I mean I think that we're all little 420 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 5: snowflakes and you have to kind of take that individually, 421 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 5: like it's something that really affects someone, you have to 422 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: consider that if it affects their self esteem. And I 423 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 5: think that it's a case by case thing, the nose thing, 424 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 5: because I think I know I remember like having a 425 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 5: girlfriend that did it before college, and that was like 426 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: a big thing for her and it really kind of 427 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: changed her life. So, because I don't do no surgery, 428 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: I don't have like intimate experience on that. But I'm 429 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: not necessarily opposed to it as as some might be 430 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: if it's you know, if it's if they really feel 431 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: passionately about it, and you know, I think you have 432 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: to listen to you to your children on that. 433 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I have one last question for you. 434 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: One worse little celebrity headline. Christin Cavaleri made a lot 435 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: of drama a couple of weeks ago, and she said 436 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: that she does not wear sunscreen, and she said we 437 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: spend too much time. Well, I think she was having 438 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: a conversation about people spending too much time indoors now 439 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: and the sun gives us nourishment and we should be 440 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: out in the sun more. And she says she doesn't 441 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 2: wear sunscreen. Where what would be your response to that 442 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: as someone who works with people's skin, Like, is there 443 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: some we should be getting a little more natural sunlight 444 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: and should we wear sunscreen? 445 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I do agree with sunscreen. I think 446 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 5: if you're out for short term, you know, I think it. 447 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 5: Maybe it's okay. There is something some points to like 448 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 5: not getting enough vitamin D, but you're still getting vitamin 449 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 5: D absorption with sunscreen. But yeah, I mean there's points 450 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: to both of those are But I mean, I can't 451 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 5: tell people not to wear it sunscreen, so yeah, I 452 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: just wouldn't you know, I would. I don't know, but 453 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 5: I am. I will be honest and say I'm not 454 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: the most draconian about it myself, but I'm also not 455 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 5: out in the sun as much as I should be either, Right, 456 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: I'm the one locking my kids up, but not out 457 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: there myself. 458 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: That's right, especially during the summer. Well, Nurse Jamie, thank 459 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: you so much. Now you mentioned you have a skincare line. 460 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: What is that line? 461 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: It's called Nurse Jamie. But I'm going to send you 462 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 5: guys rollers because I'm telling you it's something you should 463 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: be doing, because it happens. And I'm sure just being 464 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: on podcasts being like editing your you're in your head 465 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: isn't a forward tilt. It's like my new little soapbox. 466 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: Because I think that not just it's not just my patience, 467 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: but like I said, even my kids like that. It 468 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 5: is the thing they say that it's you know, our 469 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 5: jaw lines are changing because we're eating less meat and 470 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 5: different things. But I swear, as a provider doing patient 471 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 5: care over twenty years, I've noticed that the nets are 472 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: we having almost the same width as a jaw line. 473 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: Where can we find those? 474 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? So you have your own roller? 475 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 5: Yes? I do. Yes, Nurse Jamie dot com. 476 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: Nurse Jamie dot com. What's the name of the roller? 477 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: Does it have like a really on the uplift? 478 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: Hey, let's get uplifted. I'm ready. 479 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going to send it to you guys. 480 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: Please do I Oh my gosh, it's truly thank you 481 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: so much because I mean, I knew I've heard your 482 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: name for so long being in celebrity news, and I 483 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: some of what you said today was the most poignant, simple, 484 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 2: clear way I've heard it. 485 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: So thank you so much, and I can't wait to 486 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: try the roller. 487 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: Bliss right, my nurse Jamie. He massage Jamie, A totally 488 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: different Jamie. Different Jamie Jamie. Even though it is a massage, 489 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: it's that's a different Jamie. 490 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Jamie. 491 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: Bye, thanks for listening. Follow us all on Instagram at 492 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: the most dramatic pod ever, and make sure to write 493 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: us a review and leave us five stars. I'll talk 494 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: to you next time.