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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jezz Podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Erick Allen in the

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Speaker 1: home studios. We'll hear from Bart Scott later in the show,

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Speaker 1: but this week we're joined by undrafted rookie free agent

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Speaker 1: Javelin Giddry. I feel the need the need for speed

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Speaker 1: this guy, kid Bird Greens, he's one of the fastest

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Speaker 1: guys in the National Football League. In fact, coming out

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Speaker 1: he wasn't drafted out of Utah, but what he was

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Speaker 1: like a four to nine and Henry Ruggs was the

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Speaker 1: only guy faster in the draft class at four to seven. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I really like about Javelin is,

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Speaker 1: as fans will find out, as he comes from a

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Speaker 1: very athletic family and he's just not a smaller type

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Speaker 1: player who isn't strong. This dude continues to get his

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Speaker 1: hands on the football, knocking the ball out and me,

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that he benched two pounds twenty

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Speaker 1: one time. That's something else for a guy who was

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Speaker 1: about one. It's very impressive. And we did ask Javelin

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Speaker 1: Giddrie if Devolunte Parker actually caught that ball that the

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Speaker 1: refs called the catch and it was officially ruled as

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Speaker 1: a forced fumble from Javelin, and you know, well we

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Speaker 1: we asked him his opinion on that. But I will

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Speaker 1: say when the Jets played the Raiders a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, there was a speed on speed crime Henry Ruggs,

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Speaker 1: Javelin Giddrey. Gidrey knocked that ball out for the second

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Speaker 1: straight week. Yeah, and you're seeing that early on in

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Speaker 1: his career. And that's what you want to see if

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Speaker 1: you're the Jets personnel department and if you are the

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Speaker 1: Jets fan base. Obviously, the Jets are still looking for

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Speaker 1: that first win all in thirteen, one of the most

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Speaker 1: difficult seasons of franchise history. We talked about it each

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Speaker 1: and every week. But you want to see development an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for some of these young guys. And Giddrey is

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Speaker 1: a guy who played at the highest level college football

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Speaker 1: at Utah was a nickelback. This I did come out

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Speaker 1: after his junior year, took the undrafted route, signed with

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Speaker 1: the Jets, and now with Brian Pool unfortunately out of

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Speaker 1: the lineup, he's getting opportunities at that nickel spot. So

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Speaker 1: let's see what he can do over these final three games.

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Speaker 1: Do not tell me the final three games are not

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Speaker 1: important in National Football League season. Yes, the Jets aren't

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Speaker 1: going anywhere in three weeks, we know that. But you

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Speaker 1: only have three games remaining until next summer. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that you hit the nail on the head. This

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Speaker 1: is the time of year where you start to see

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Speaker 1: what you have in the future. And Janally Giddrey is

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Speaker 1: someone that's taken advantage of his opportunities, and he played

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Speaker 1: the most snaps of his young career against the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks yesterday as we record this podcast Monday afternoon. So

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Speaker 1: let's hear from Javelin Giddrey right now. I've read somewhere

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Speaker 1: that you started competing in track and field at seven

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Speaker 1: years old. Is that true? Yes, start at a young age,

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Speaker 1: just getting the flow of it. I said, I was

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Speaker 1: gifted with speed, so just be able to compete using

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Speaker 1: my speed. It's been a blessing at a young age

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Speaker 1: that Javelin. We have so many things to get to

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Speaker 1: with you. First thing I want to talk about is

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Speaker 1: what made you leave Utah after three years? Um, I

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Speaker 1: was just confident in my ability to play at the

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Speaker 1: next level. Um. I felt like I was ready and

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Speaker 1: I took the chance on myself and believe in myself

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Speaker 1: and uh here I am now so quick follow up?

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Speaker 1: Though you went undrafted, was there a lot of disappointment

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Speaker 1: that weekend or you knew all along. Listen, I'm bet

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Speaker 1: not myself. I'm gonna make it no matter what. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that weekend, that was definitely disappointment, but it was more

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Speaker 1: make the most opportunities. You know, you're someone that ran

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Speaker 1: Javelin Gudri one of the fastest people in the entire country.

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Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about the National Football League, but

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Speaker 1: just to see where I stand. And I'm a competitor

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Speaker 1: So are you a US saying bolt guy? I feel

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Speaker 1: like when people think about the fastest men in the world,

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Speaker 1: most people think of you sat Bolt. Oh yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: think about Carl Lewis. That's before your time, Jafflin. I

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite event in terms of track and field.

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Speaker 1: So and what did you like about Utah in particular? Um?

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Speaker 1: And uh, he told me a lot of life lessons.

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Speaker 1: Him and coach Shock, coach Scout Lee. There were great

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Speaker 1: All the way. Hey man, you got more than just speed.

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Speaker 1: of those ghost motions, those you know, Ricky Williams speed

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Speaker 1: sweeps and you know, we foul Jordan Jenis. They're trying

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Speaker 1: to solidify and and lock down the corner. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be exciting to see what happens. But if I had

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Speaker 1: to pick one, I'm gonna go back to my original

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Speaker 1: and talk about Beckton versus you know Floyd and Aaron Donald. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I love it, and I'm gonna steal some of his

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Speaker 1: thunder because the Jets are facing perhaps maybe the best

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Speaker 1: player in the National Football League. He doesn't play the

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Speaker 1: most important position, which of course his quarterback, but Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald fellas twelve and a half sacks this year. Part

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Speaker 1: talked about Leonard Floyd, He's got seven and a a half sacks.

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Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's has chipped in with five sacks. Listen to

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Speaker 1: these statistics for the Rams. Number one in total defense,

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Speaker 1: number one in yards per play, number one in passing defense,

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Speaker 1: number three in rush defense, number three in sacks per

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Speaker 1: past attempt, second in third down efficiency. This is the

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Speaker 1: best defense in the National Football League and the best

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Speaker 1: defensive player in the league is Aaron Donald. And I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask Bart about this because the Rams there

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Speaker 1: are three four front and a lot of times they

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Speaker 1: don't have the blitz because they can get there just rushing.

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Speaker 1: For Aaron Donald might be matched up a lot against

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Speaker 1: New Jets guard pet Alfline, not the outside guy in

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Speaker 1: McKay Beckton. How do you double a guy like Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald because he can't have a guard just matched up

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Speaker 1: much match up against him one I want every play part. Well,

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Speaker 1: yeah you could if you put the tight end to

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Speaker 1: that side, and that allows Beck to not to be

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Speaker 1: secure for the edge, So that allows maybe Griffin or

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Speaker 1: Herndon to be responsible for for the outside pass wresher,

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Speaker 1: and you can and chip with those two guys and

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Speaker 1: then let come in and get a free world class shot.

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Speaker 1: And you gotta tell the guard, hey, don't miss inside,

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Speaker 1: don't miss outside, miss inside, because then now he'll have

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Speaker 1: to split the double between him. And if you're doing that,

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Speaker 1: you know you also want to be able to let

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Speaker 1: him go a couple of times as well, because you

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Speaker 1: wanted You saw when they played the Patriots, they would

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Speaker 1: just trap him and wham block him a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: because he gets through because he shoots off the ball

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Speaker 1: so fast that if the guy above in front of

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Speaker 1: him doesn't block him, you can kind of trap block

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Speaker 1: him and use his momentum his aggressiveness against him. You

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Speaker 1: gotta get him a steady dose because you just allow

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Speaker 1: him and line up at a three point stands and

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Speaker 1: think that anybody that you put in front of him

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Speaker 1: is gonna be able to consistently hold their own again

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Speaker 1: something you're gonna be mistaken. But they've gotten better and

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Speaker 1: moving him around so that you can't just put a

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Speaker 1: target on him like teams do it and Dominican sue.

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Speaker 1: They've been able to move him around, allow him to

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Speaker 1: be like that palm piece where if they find a

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Speaker 1: weakness in your in your front, that he's going to

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Speaker 1: exploit it. Where you going ahead? I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask part real quick. If you're the Jets offensively and

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Speaker 1: you're coming off a three point performance against Seattle, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to see if you thought you gotta run

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Speaker 1: a lot of twelve and thirteen personnel, go a lot

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Speaker 1: of double tights and maybe at times three tight ends

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Speaker 1: against this team. Well, the traditionally, when you think about

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Speaker 1: when you go with those personnel's teams don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of blitz packages with it, and you hope that

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Speaker 1: they go heavy and hope that you can maybe take

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Speaker 1: your chances one on one on the outside. The problem

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Speaker 1: is if you want to do that, you're going against

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Speaker 1: arguably the best corner and to get in the game

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Speaker 1: and Ramsey, so he may take that away. So then

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Speaker 1: a blitz or the path for us, But eventually get there.

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Speaker 1: I think you have to be creative. I think you

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Speaker 1: can go to tight ends, but you may try and

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Speaker 1: go with slot fronts, so you can still have you know,

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Speaker 1: your backside and your edges are tight end. But then

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Speaker 1: you have your two receivers on the field, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the same side, so then you can kind of

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Speaker 1: force Sam. You only have to re haalf the field

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Speaker 1: because both of his receivers to the left and you're

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Speaker 1: check down, and what you have left is going over

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Speaker 1: to the tight end. So now you waste Ramsey on

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Speaker 1: somebody that they that you know, you wish Ramsey on

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Speaker 1: a tight end that's not coming out, and then you're

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Speaker 1: able to work one side and feel opposite him and

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Speaker 1: force him to just kind of waste itself sitting there

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Speaker 1: on the backside board to death. And then hopefully maybe

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Speaker 1: later you sneak one out on the low where he

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Speaker 1: thinks that you know, law him to sleep and then

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Speaker 1: maybe get a vertical route by hearing it while he's sleeping.

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Speaker 1: For my matchup to watch, I'm gonna go with this

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Speaker 1: Jets run defense against the Rams rushing attack. Last week,

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Speaker 1: rookie cam Acres against New England Patriots ran wild. The

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Speaker 1: Seahawks did a good job moving the ball against the

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Speaker 1: Jets front that takes pride and stopping the run. So, Bart,

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Speaker 1: what did you see out of the Jets rush defense

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Speaker 1: last week against the Seahawks may be compared to what

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Speaker 1: they did the week before that to the Raiders, And

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Speaker 1: what do they now need to do and how do

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Speaker 1: they prepare for this Rams rushing attack. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just have to make sure that you have borders right,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you make sure that everybody has a

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Speaker 1: run in between the tackles. You can't give up your

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Speaker 1: perimeter because when you do actually cut the defense. And

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Speaker 1: I think to answer your other courts and what did

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Speaker 1: they do different from you know, um, you know from

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Speaker 1: the the Raiders. You think that they had their starting

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Speaker 1: running back John jacobson't playing their games, so they didn't

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Speaker 1: have their number one. And you look at Chris Carson.

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Speaker 1: He's coming back. He's a guy that they've been waiting

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Speaker 1: to come back. He dramatically changed their defense. He's a

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Speaker 1: tone center with Carlos Hide, and they were able to

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Speaker 1: just continue to try and wear the team down. And

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Speaker 1: when you're when you're out there and you don't really

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Speaker 1: you know, get opportunities and drives are extended. Eventually, you

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Speaker 1: know that that that damn will break and it and

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Speaker 1: it broke and when you when it breaks in, it's

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Speaker 1: free yards out there for everybody to get. And also

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Speaker 1: you know you have Russell Wilson. It's a element of

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Speaker 1: his game and what he's able to do in extending places.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't have to worry about that with golf,

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Speaker 1: but you know with Russell Wilson you have to worry

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Speaker 1: about him being creative and creating on the fly because

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Speaker 1: his ability to be a do with threat quarterback. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: That was another great edition of the Victorinox Swiss Army

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Speaker 1: Knife Player of the Game segment and that wraps up

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon

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