1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stephone 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: ever told you production of My Heart Radio. So today 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: we have another episode, uh international episode looking at um 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: women around the world. And so I guess my question 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: for you, since I've already asked if you like to 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: travel and you said yes, where as somewhere you've always 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: wanted to go, that is a great question. I don't 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: actually know. I just want to go everywhere. Yeah, maybe Iceland, 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, or Switzerland. M yeah, I want 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: to go there. Very white places, I guess. I don't know. 11 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: They're also cold places, and don't you hate cold? I 12 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: do hate the cold? Is always cold. No, it's a 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: great idea, They're both great. I think part of that 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: is as long as I'm prepared for it, then I'm 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: good with it. If I'm not prepared, then I will 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: be miserable. But if I'm prepared for it and I've 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: got the right clothing and we get snow, I'm cool 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: with that. Mm hmm. Or's the last place you went internationally? Uh? 19 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Does Canada count? Yeah? Okay, does mine too? I went 20 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: there not too long ago to visit my friend in Canada. Oh, 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: that's that's fun um. Yeah, Canada's Canada's lovely as well. 22 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Also cold. This is very funny to me. It wasn't 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: cold when I went. Yeah, it's not cold all the time. Yeah, sure, 24 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah. Canada was the last place I went as well, 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: and I went for a puppet festival after we did 26 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: our our puppetry episode Women in Puppetry. That it was very, 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: very fun I, like I said in a previous episode, 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: though I really thought I was going to get stuck 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: in Canada. I wouldn't have been mad about it, but 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: I was the hotel, staring out the window like I 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: don't know how this is gonna go. Do you wish 32 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: you were still there? Now? A part of me very 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: much does you know? As where we sit here? And 34 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, maybe I shouldn't be in it. I 35 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: tried to escape many of places, started fantasizing about one 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: day traveling on a plane. Yeah it seems so distant now. 37 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty sad when air travel becomes something you long for, 38 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: because yeah, it's not. I think it's really funny. The 39 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: first like two times I did it, I loved it, 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: and then after that you're kind of like I just 41 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: want to get there. Yes, yeah. I think the more 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: we started traveling for work, the less I liked it, 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, yeah, I get motions like this. Yeah, yeah, 44 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: that's no fun. Um. Well, one day, Samantha, one day 45 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: we'll be able to travel again. We will, um. So 46 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: today we're we're looking at chile. UM. Around the end 47 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: of October, over seventy percent of citizens voted in support 48 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: of rewriting the country's constitution to replace the guiding principles 49 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: imposed by General Augusto Pinochet's military dictatorship forty years ago. 50 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Not only that, but Chileans also voted that a popularly 51 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: elected body of people be solely responsible for the new constitution, 52 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: five members split evenly between men and women, with spaces 53 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: reserved for indigenous people to be elected. In April, um 54 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: women leaders insisted never again without women. When some men 55 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: in government looked like they'd argue, women started chanting, we 56 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: are half, we want half. The constitution is scheduled to 57 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: reach voters by mid Huge celebrations swept across the country 58 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: when the news broke. Yeah, man, is a huge accomplishment. 59 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I think someone tweeted not too long ago about how 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: they can't believe until I actually we're able to do 61 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that in the US won't even budge in interpreting it 62 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: in a moderate way. Um. And almost never are constitutions 63 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: rewritten without transitioning to a democracy a collapse of government 64 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: at the end of wars Um, this shows a democracy 65 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: with unhappy constituents can call for a change in their constitution. 66 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: And I am very impressed and somewhat jealous. Uh. Having 67 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: citizens making up all the deciding members of a constitutional 68 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: convention is also extremely rare and very forward thinking. I 69 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: love it, Um. And all of this was in response 70 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: to street protests that took place in twenty nineteen against 71 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: inequality and high expenses that drew millions of martyrs, and 72 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, just looking at those pictures so inspiring 73 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: as well as you see what can happen when again 74 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: women lead and take charge and refused to be ignored. 75 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: It is a beautiful gathering. And I do I as 76 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm reading some of the columns about the fact that 77 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: they continue to do this in twenty twenty and they 78 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: refused to be not heard. They continue to chant when 79 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: they think they're about to be pushed down. Inspirational beyond 80 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: anything else, Um. Confrontations of course between police and protesters 81 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: left thirty protesters dead and thousands injured, which is not 82 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: shocking but always upsetting. Um. And some who are arrested 83 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: reported extreme brutality and sexual violence, which is part of 84 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: the reason they had these marches as they try to 85 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: claim their freedom and their bodies as well as protesting 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: against violence against women. Yeah. Yeah, and um, depending on 87 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: the source you you get this, this information from those 88 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: numbers can vary, and of course, like there's that sort 89 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: of trying to distance from well, was this directly attributed 90 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: to the pro us this death, so there is some 91 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: variants there. Um and yeah. Other than addressing economic inequality, 92 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: protesters also called for an into gender violence, among other things, 93 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: to make society more equitable. UM. And I was struck by, 94 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: like as we talked about in our Poland episode about 95 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: the abortion law potentially there and and this, like all 96 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: these things are happening at the same time. Um. And 97 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: they all these movements led by women, are primarily organized 98 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: by women, and it is really inspirational. It does show 99 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: what you can accomplish if you've if you work for 100 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: it and organize, UM, keep going. It is I love 101 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: um looking around the world, and I hate that this 102 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: is where we've come to because we have gone for 103 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: so long without equal rights, without being heard, with being oppressed. 104 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: And I say we as a gender, but essentially for 105 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: all marginalized people to have to get to this point 106 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: in in order to be heard. But it is phenomenal 107 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: to see how amazing people around the world have come 108 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: together to protest for their right and doing it in 109 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: a way that's changing things. That is inspirational. Um whether 110 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: we were talking about Nigeria, or we're talking about Poland, 111 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: or we're talking about Chile. Just the fact that these 112 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: women have come together and marginalized individuals have come together 113 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: to be heard is all inspiring and like chilling, Like 114 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I get chills thinking about it and wondering, like how 115 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: are we going to look back on this, and how 116 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: are we going to celebrate the things that people have 117 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: fought for? And we we talk about historical contexts about 118 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, the civil rights protests and the suffragette protests 119 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: and all of that, but knowing that things are transitioning 120 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: and we people are making history in our time is 121 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: phenomenal to see. Yeah, And I just when I was 122 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: reading about this, I was struck by wold half women. 123 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: We are half, we want half, and it's it's sad 124 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: that that was so shocking to me. UM, but I 125 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: mean that's amazing, that's amazing. UM. So we're definitely gonna 126 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. 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