1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky listener Discretion is advised. 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: Years ago, my dear Friendship Coffee and I made a 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: trip to a small town in Pennsylvania. Our mission to 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: potentially buy an old haunted mansion. You see, this particular 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Victorian was for sale in a town that had seen 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: a huge economic downturn over the last few decades, and 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: this mansion, built in more profitable times, had just sat. 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: It's beautiful but peeling wallpapered walls, a dusty grand spiral staircase, 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: a crumbling carriage house in the back, and even an elevator. 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: To me, this was a dream come true. Chip and 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: I saw so much potential in this grand old lady, 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: and boy did we want her for our own. As 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: we left and were slowly closing the door, for a 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: split second, I thought I saw someone peer around a 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: hallway wall, as if wondering who are those people? As 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: fate would have it, it wasn't meant to be. After 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: we sat and really discussed the logistics of owning such 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: a property, mainly getting to it, we decided against it. 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: It was one of the hardest decisions and one the 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: two of us reflect on. 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: Often. 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of what ifs, But why don't we 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: explore the story of a home where someone did jump 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: forward and make such a purchase. Join me as we 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: travel to the mcineer Villa in Atchison, Kansas. I'm Amy Bruney, 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: and this is Haunted Road. A Queen Anne style red 28 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: brick house stands at the top of a hill in Atchison, Kansas. 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Although the home is over a century years old, its 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: design and decorp have stayed remarkably consistent over the years. 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: In fact, it would be virtually impossible for anyone to 32 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: do an extensive remodel. According to the Homes National Register 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: of Historic Places Inventory Nomination Form, its walls are just 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: too thick and strong. If anyone were to knock one over, 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: the whole house could come crumbling down. Over the years, 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: a porch was removed, a door was closed off, and 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: bathrooms were added. The kitchen was also updated, but beyond that, 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: the house today looks very similar to how it did 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: when it was first built nearly one hundred fifty years ago. 40 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: Many of its stained glass windows are original. The banisters 41 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: have detailed carvings and elaborate columns support the peaked roof 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: in the attic period furniture graces the five bedrooms, four bathrooms, 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: and the seven rooms in the basement. It's also decorated 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: with various mannequins and dolls, including one that's said to 45 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: be haunted. Her name is Esmerelda, and she's a nineteenth 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: century marriage made with real human hair. From the outside, 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: the house looks ominous with its slate black roof and 48 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: a wrap around porch that's shaded by heavy eaves. On 49 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: the north side of the house, a simple plaque declares 50 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: that this is the mcinteer Villa. It's nestled in Atchison, Kansas, 51 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: a town that once sat on a major stagecoach line. 52 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: Its population exploded in the late nineteenth century and now 53 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: about ten thoy five hundred people live there. And if 54 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: you're thinking this sounds familiar, that's because the mcinteer Villa 55 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: is just about a mile from the Sally House, which 56 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: I covered earlier this season. In fact, according to a 57 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: Ghost on Every Corner by Don Coleklasier, Atchison has an 58 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: unusually high number of haunted locations in it. The community 59 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: has been dubbed the most ghostly Town in Kansas. The 60 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Mcenteer Villa was built in eighteen eighty nine and eighteen 61 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: ninety by John mcinteer. He was a first generation Irish 62 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: American immigrant who'd made a fortune as a harnessmaker. 63 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: According to the. 64 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Visit Atchison website, his saddle and harness shop was very 65 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: popular due to the superior quality of his work. The 66 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: demand for his goods was so high John practically had 67 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: no choice but to expand the business. He and his 68 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: wife Alice spent fourteen thousand dollars on construction for their home. 69 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: Adjusted for inflation, that was the equivalent of about half 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: a million dollars today when it was finished. It's belief 71 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: that John gave it the name of mcineer Villa himself. 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: He reportedly was the one who had the title etched 73 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: into the stone. Sadly, his wife Alice only got to 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: enjoy the new house for a little under two years. 75 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: During that time, she suffered from what the Atchison Daily 76 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Globe called an intermittent fever, and in December of eighteen 77 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: ninety one, she passed away inside the villa. 78 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: Four years before. 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: Remarrying and his second wife was a woman named Anna Colton, 80 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: Like him. She had lost a former partner, and she 81 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: and her late husband had three children together. She and 82 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 2: John spent seven years in the villa before he passed 83 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: on July seventeenth, nineteen o two. After John's death, Anna 84 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: and her children remained in the home. Given that John 85 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: never had any biological children, it made sense for his 86 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: widow and stepchildren to keep the house. When Anna got older, 87 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: her brother came to stay with her, and after she 88 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: suffered a fatal heart attack in nineteen sixteen, even more 89 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: of her family members came to stay with him. Anna's 90 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: death made her the third person to die within the 91 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: home in twenty five years, but one of the most 92 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: tragic losses happened six years later, on October tenth, nineteen 93 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: twenty two. That afternoon, the family was relaxing together when 94 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Anna's son, Charles Donovan, announced that he had a headache. 95 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: He took some medicine and then headed upstairs. His relatives 96 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: may have assumed that he was going to lie down, 97 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: given Charles's history of poor health. He was a World 98 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: War One veteran who'd survived about with the flu, but 99 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: while he lived, he never fully recovered from the disease. 100 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: He got sick frequently, and according to his friends, this 101 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: may have made him feel depressed. No one thought much 102 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: of it when Charles walked up the stairs, not until 103 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: five minutes later, when the sound of a gunshot rang 104 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: through the house. Charles had taken his own life, but 105 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: the self inflicted wound wasn't immediately fatal. Instead, it took 106 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: two hours for him to die of his injury, all 107 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: while doctors scrambled to save him. Their efforts, sadly, were 108 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: in vain. He was only thirty four years old. Given 109 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: how much tragedy had happened within the walls, the family 110 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 2: eventually moved out of McIntyre Villa, but they still owned 111 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: it and rented it to tenants, and just seven years 112 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: after Charles's death by suicide, another person died there. This 113 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: time it was a newborn girl named Ramona Jane Wood. 114 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: She was only four days old when she breathed her 115 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: last on September twentieth, nineteen twenty nine. By nineteen fifty two, 116 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: the home had been sold to someone who fit oddly 117 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: well with its macabre reputation. The new buyer was a 118 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: woman named Isobel Altis, but she went by Goldie. Goldie 119 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: was in her late fifties, unmarried, childless, and liked to 120 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: dress all in black. According to the Atchison Daily Globe, 121 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: she also took in a large number of stray dogs 122 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: and cats over the years, so naturally, the neighborhood children 123 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: and those who attended the elementary school just across the 124 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: street believed she was a witch. The truth was that 125 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: she had been born and raised in Atchison, although she 126 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: had lived out of state for some period of time. 127 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: When she was in town, she worked as a secretary 128 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: for the local police department. She had also spent some 129 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: time playing the violin with the Denver Symphony Orchestra. Goldie 130 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: managed to avoid any major tragedies while she owned the home, 131 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: but she did fail to restore it to its original 132 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: glory in spite of her best efforts to renovate it. 133 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Since she couldn't afford professional repair people, she tried to 134 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: fix up the Mcenteer villa herself. The local paper, the 135 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: Atchison Daily Globe, reported that people often saw her on 136 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: the roof trying to patch it on her own. But 137 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: after seventeen years of home ownership, Goldie was seventy five 138 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: years old and her health was taking a turn for 139 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: the worse. She had no choice but to sell the villa, 140 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: but the new owners kindly let Goldie continue living there. 141 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: In her final days, she enjoyed sitting in her rocking chair, 142 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: and each day she'd call the same cab to take 143 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: her to a local restaurant for dinner. One day in 144 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: late December of nineteen sixty nine, the driver pulled up, 145 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: but Goldie didn't come to the car like she usually did. 146 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: The driver left, thinking she may have made other plans, 147 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: but when she was a no show the second day, 148 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: the driver called the police to request a welfare check. 149 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: The police reached out to the homeowner and he rushed 150 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: with them to the mcineer villa. As soon as he 151 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: opened the front door, he could see Goldie slumped over 152 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: in her rocking chair. Her trusty pistol was sitting on 153 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: a nearby table, and her hand was on the gun. 154 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: The owner was afraid to disturb Goldie while she was armed, 155 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: so he went in through another entrance. He yelled Goldie's 156 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: name as he approached so as not to surprise her, 157 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: and when he finally made it to her side, he 158 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: touched her arm to find her skin was cold and clammy. 159 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: She'd been dead of natural causes for at least a 160 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: full day after Goldie's death. The owner and his wife 161 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: both moved in, and they in turn also passed away 162 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: within the mcineer villa's walls. Their children sold it again. 163 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: By this point there were already rumors and stories going 164 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: around that the mcinteer ville was haunted, so the new 165 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: buyers restored it and opened it up for ghost tours 166 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: and paranormal investigations these days. Visitors on those tours report 167 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: seeing objects move on their own. Other times they'll hear 168 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: the distinct sound of a door knob turning or furniture 169 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: dragging across the floor, but when they look into the 170 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: room nothing is out of place. They also hear disembodied voices, 171 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: distant piano music, and footsteps which sometimes follow visitors up 172 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: and down the stairs to the attic. There are many 173 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: reports of a baby crying, even when there's no child 174 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: on the property. This could be the spirit of Ramona, 175 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: who died in the home when she was just four 176 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: days old. Alternatively, some psychics have claimed that at some 177 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: point in the house's history, illegal abortions were performed in 178 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: the villa's basement. I'll note that there's no historical documentation 179 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: to verify that claim, but guests in the basement have 180 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: also reported the sound of women moaning throughout the home. 181 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: The lights often turn themselves on and off without anyone 182 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: flipping the switch. Reportedly, this happened at least once when 183 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: the villa's electricity was off, and guests sometimes see figures 184 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: in the windows when the house is empty, or lights 185 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: darting across the room. This activity is occasionally accompanied by 186 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: a drastic drop in temperature or a strong whiff of 187 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: either perfume or tobacco. One especially disturbing detail comes from 188 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: the people who spend the night in the master bedroom. Reportedly, 189 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: it's quite common for invisible hands to wake people by 190 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: tugging on their feet, or for something that's not visible 191 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: to walk across the bed, making the whole mattress shake. Additionally, 192 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: there are many accounts of shadow figures and full bodied apparitions. 193 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: These include a young man or a boy, a woman 194 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: all in white, and a different woman in a pink dress. 195 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: Goldie Altis, who died in her rocking chair, seems to 196 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: still enjoy sitting in it. The chair has been said 197 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: to sway on its own and if anyone else dares 198 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: to take a seat in it, her spirit will touch 199 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: or tickle that person. In general, Goldie is thought to 200 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: be friendly, show play with visitor's hair, and she's been 201 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: spotted strolling around in a black dress. Sometimes, even when 202 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: Goldie isn't visible, guests can smell her distinctive perfume permeating 203 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: the air, or hear violin music echoing through the house. 204 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: Charles Donovan's spirit has also been reported in the home. 205 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: He's frequently seen in the library, which may be the 206 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: room where he took his own life. It's often chillier 207 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: there than any other place in the house, and his 208 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: disembodied footsteps can be heard echoing back and forth all 209 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: across the second floor. Plus, you may remember the allegedly 210 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: haunted doll I mentioned earlier, Esmerelda. When people are in 211 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: her room with her, they sometimes feel a distinct sensation 212 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: of something scratching them or pulling their hair. Given the 213 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: house rich history and paranormal reports, it's only fitting that 214 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: we talk with the owner, So that is coming up 215 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: after the break. Okay, So I am now joined by 216 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Steph O'Reilly, who is the owner of the villa, and 217 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you right off the bat because I 218 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: asked you beforehand. But I feel like this is a 219 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: good question. How do you pronounce the name? 220 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: That's awesome And I get this question so many times 221 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: and I'm hoping, I hope I'm doing it right. I 222 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: say mcinteer. Now I know I don't say McDonald's, but 223 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. For some reason, I just say mcinteer. 224 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: It just sounds like that's it's supposed to be. Some 225 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: will say McIntire. I'm not quite sure, but we're gonna 226 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: go with mcinteer. 227 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, McIntire it is. And that's I think what I 228 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: said the whole first half. So that's good. 229 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, although I could be wrong. 230 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: I recorded it a few weeks ago, so okay. 231 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: So well, welcome to the program. 232 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: And I just I really I want to know because 233 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I've talked with a few people 234 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: this season in locations i've not been to. First of all, 235 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: i've not visited you. I really would love to, especially 236 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: after learning the history and everything. It sounds like such 237 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: an amazing location. How did you come to be the owner? 238 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: Well, I had gone to down the street. You've probably 239 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: heard of it. It's called the Sally House. Yes, so 240 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: the Sally House is like my house is on thirteenth 241 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: and Sally House is on Second Street, and so we're 242 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: very close at five minute drive if that. And so 243 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: I stayed at the Sally House one night and nothing happened, 244 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: which is fine. So I went back two weeks later 245 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: because I'm like, I need I need to do I 246 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: need to go back here for some reason. So anyway, 247 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: I back then you used to have to check in 248 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: at the depot and they would you'd follow them over there. 249 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: So anyway, two weeks had gone by. I'm loud. I'm 250 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: sure they just remembered like that loud girl. But they 251 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: said there's a there's a house for sale and it's haunted. 252 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: And I just remember I didn't ask which house. I 253 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: was just looking up houses for sale and Atchison and 254 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: I came across the house and it was gorgeous, and 255 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: I just knew that was it and it wasn't it 256 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: was it was something else. Anyway, I finally came across 257 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: this house and I couldn't stop looking at it. I mean, 258 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: it was just the weirdest thing. I live about an 259 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: hour away. I would just get in my car and 260 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: drive out here and look at the house. I would 261 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: look it up on like real estate dot com stuff 262 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: like that, and I would just show people like, look 263 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: at this house, look at this house. It was just 264 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: something about it. And I say, I'm not obsessed with anything, 265 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: like nothing, but there was something about this house I 266 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: couldn't get out of my head. So I called my 267 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: mom and asked if she wanted to co sign, and 268 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: she did not. Sometimes yeah, I'm like when it goes 269 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: in an a haunted house, She's like nope. And so 270 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: she called my dad and he said yes. It took 271 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: him like two seconds and he co signed without even 272 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: seeing it. He lived in Arizona. But so that's how 273 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: I came across, or that's how I came to own 274 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: the house. He was only here once. He passed away 275 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: April thirteenth will be five years. But I have his 276 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: ashes here and whenever I walk by giving a tour, 277 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: I will knock on the glass and say, Dad, stir 278 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: stuff up, oh, just because he would. That's his kind 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: of humor. He would find it funny. And I don't 280 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: want to exclud him because I wouldn't have it without him. 281 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: And so some people look at me like I'm Bizarred. 282 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: I'm like one hundred percent yes, but that was his humor. 283 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: So that's how I came. That's how I became the 284 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: owner of the villa. 285 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: So it just kind of called to you, And I 286 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: think that's that seems to be a theme when I 287 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: speak with people who buy haunted locations. It's this kind 288 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: of almost spiritual calling to them, and I feel like 289 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: most of them are meant to be there in some way. 290 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: And so did you necessarily know it. 291 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: Was haunted before you bought it or were you just 292 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: getting like a strong vibe from it? 293 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: Okay, well it was already known for being haunted. Oh Okay, 294 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: Atchison is known for being one of one of the most, 295 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: if not the most haunted town in Kansas, and so 296 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: they actually there are newspaper articles and news reports of 297 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: Missus Girardi and I bought the house from the Girardis. 298 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: Mister and Missus Girardi both passed away in the home. 299 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: Therefore kids inherited the house. I bought it from their 300 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: four kids. So when missus, when mister and missus I'm sorry, 301 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: when Missus Girardi lived here after her husband husband had 302 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: passed away. There are articles that you know, she did 303 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: interviews with they used Haunted actress and used the house 304 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: as the backdrop or the advertising four Haunted Actresses. 305 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: Oh okay, makes sense there. 306 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: And it's kind of cool that the stories would like 307 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 3: there's a story Missus Girardi would say she would hear 308 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: her husband coming in the back door from fishing or 309 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: from work, and she'd hear his keys. And just last weekend, 310 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: the back door opened twice and I'm sitting here giving 311 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: a tour and actually we're standing in the dining room. 312 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: The group had just shown up and you hear click, click, 313 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: and it just opens up and they're like what, like like, 314 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't. 315 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: Know, you, welcome to the house. 316 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: It's so crazy that the things that happened to her 317 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: still happened. So it's that makes it really cool to 318 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: me because it's not something that people say like maybe 319 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: if I brought in or something attached to the furniture, 320 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: maybe you know that I brought in, but it's something 321 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: that happened then. Or the whistles, like last night we 322 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: heard a plane as day whistle and that's been going 323 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: on since I don't know. That's one of the stories 324 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: that Missus Geordi would tell. So it's kind of cool. 325 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: When what was your first like wow experience when you 326 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: bought the location, Like when did you go, Okay, yeah, 327 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: this place is definitely haunted. 328 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: The night I closed, oh my gosh, it was just 329 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: so crazy I did. There was no furniture in the house, 330 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: so I had some air mattresses and I was sleeping 331 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: on while I was laying in one of the rooms. 332 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know which, you know, like when you go 333 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: into a place and we, at least I used to 334 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: and I probably still do, like where's the most active area, 335 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: what time of day is the most active, you know whatever, 336 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 3: and so I didn't ask what room was the most active. 337 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: And so I'm just sleeping and trying to sleep in 338 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: one of the rooms and I hear the door handle jiggling, 339 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: and then I hear footsteps by my head and I'm 340 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: on the air mattress, so I'm close to the floor 341 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's walking next to my head. And 342 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: my friend said, isn't this what you wanted? I'm like, 343 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: shut up, yes, yeah. Sometimes yeah, sometimes. 344 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: You get what you wish for. 345 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: And then you're like, maybe I didn't. 346 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Really know what I was getting into. I love that though. 347 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: That must have been such an exciting time though when 348 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: it actually happened and you're there, there's no furniture yet 349 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: and you just have this blank slate, and so what 350 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: were your plans? Did you intend to kind of open. 351 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: It for ghost tours? Were you going to live there? 352 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: Like? 353 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: What was your intention? 354 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: My you two wasn't to never live here. I mean, 355 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: it's it's a big house. It's a gorgeous house, but 356 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: it's not I never intended to and I won't live 357 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: here because I live an hour away, and well, I 358 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: will go to locations and investigate. And I always just 359 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: kind of joked like, oh my gosh, if there were 360 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: a place for sale and haunted, how amazing would that be? 361 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: And I, you know, it just happened to just I 362 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: don't know if it's luck or what it was, but 363 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: come across this house and so I don't know what 364 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: took place. I don't even think they knew all of 365 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: the deaths that were in the home. It's had nine 366 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: that I know of nine documented deaths. I don't know. 367 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: I know every owner that's lived here has died here, 368 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: So I do not. 369 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to live here, right, What. 370 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: Did I think well, my kids, they might appreciated it 371 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: for business, like, oh, add another number. I mean that 372 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: sounds weird. 373 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: No, that's fair though, I mean. 374 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go somewhere, so why not the villain. I 375 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 3: don't know, it sounds that sounds a little morbid, but 376 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: it's still new. Things happen and it still freaks me out. 377 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: The footsteps will always make me uncomfortable. Last night, I 378 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 3: had a small event here and we heard it. Well, 379 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: I was coming get in the hallway on the second floor, 380 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: and I tell everyone, I don't like that second floor. 381 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: If I'm here spending the night by myself, I don't 382 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: like that second floor, and I won't come up here 383 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: if I'm spending the night loan. But if there's one person, 384 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: even if a friend of mine is here and they 385 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: go to Walmart, I'm fine. I will go anywhere in 386 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: this house. But so there were people here last night, 387 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: but I'm the only one walking down the second floor 388 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: hallway and I heard I thought was kind of like 389 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: a lady moan or hum or something. So I lean 390 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 3: over the banister and I'm like, who made that noise? 391 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: Nobody did, and so I got on. I have cameras 392 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: all around the house since I don't live here for security, 393 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: but also they pick up the craziest stuff. So I 394 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: got on the camera and it's a baby. It sounds 395 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: like a newborn wow, crying and I have obviously I 396 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: haven't posted it yet, but I'm going to today. But 397 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: it's just so new stuff like that. We've captured babies crying, 398 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: but this is a it's a different kind of cry. 399 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's so new things all the time, 400 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: glowing eyes and where are those coming from? I don't know. 401 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, there's so many different things that happen, 402 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: and I'm sure maybe it's, you know, with all the 403 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: people coming in, maybe it's somebody brought something, or maybe 404 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: I did, or maybe it's something attached to this stuff. 405 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. So I'm not the best at explaining 406 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 3: like what or who is at the villa because we 407 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: also there's something that mimics people, and that's so I've 408 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: heard my dad talking, but I don't think it's him, 409 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: and that sounds weird, but I just don't. I just 410 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: don't think it. I just feel it's not him. Somebody's 411 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: captured a little girl on the second floor, and I 412 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: just don't feel it's a little girl. But for some reason, 413 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: when we go to the basement and I hear a kid, 414 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: I feel it's a kid. So I don't know. If 415 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: I don't think I have a gift, some people will 416 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: say yes, No, I don't know. I think the more 417 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: places I go, it feels like it's something is opening 418 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: up a little bit more that I can. I'm hearing 419 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 3: more my friends that I were talking about the other day, 420 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: like we are hearing more things just out loud, just 421 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: sitting around. And I don't know if it's if we 422 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: are opening ourselves up more or we're just hear more 423 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: and we know the house better. I don't know what 424 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: it is. But still the new things that happen are 425 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: it never gets old. I'll just say that that's what 426 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 3: I mean. 427 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: No, that's fair. 428 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 2: I mean so I think I know, just on a 429 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: personal level, having investigated so many different places, I feel 430 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: like over time, I wouldn't say that I'm, you know, psychic, 431 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: but I do think you just start to get kind 432 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: of not necessarily more open, but you're just aware of 433 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: that different feeling the more you're around it, Like you know, 434 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: I can usually yeah, I can usually walk into a 435 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: location even if I'm not there on like a ghostly 436 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: on ghostly business, you know, I'll walk in and be like, whooh, 437 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: there's something here, you know, like I can just feel 438 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: the difference, And I just think you acquire that over time, 439 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: So that might be part of it. And I do 440 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: think there's a big There's something to the fact too 441 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: that you're there so often that they feel more comfortable 442 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: around you, and so that could be it too. But 443 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: my question is like, so what did you furnish the 444 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: place with? Did you bring in antiques? 445 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: And everything I did? So nothing came with the house. Well, 446 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: there is a rocking chair that one on a lady 447 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: had passed away in nineteen sixty nine, Goldie or Isabel Altis, 448 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: so that came with the house. Everything else I brought 449 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: in and Facebook Marketplace, antique stores, estate sales. Estate sales 450 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: are my favorite because I'm not a haggler. Yeah, I 451 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: will not ask for I'm like, there's the price, I 452 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: will take it. So they're my favorite because you can't haggle. Yeah, 453 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I I it's been so much 454 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: fun and it's not my we like where I live 455 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: it or my house. It's very like bright colors modern. 456 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: It's the more weird the better. That's just my taste. 457 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: And so this was like very different. But it's been 458 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: so much fun because it's just so unique. It's just 459 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 3: the ornate, the woodwork, it's just crazy. And also the 460 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: furniture is a little more, is a little daintier, and 461 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: I don't have to ask for help and moving it. 462 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: So that's what I love the most about it. But no, 463 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: it brought all of it in getting on zillow. If 464 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: anyone types in thirteen oh one Kansas Avenue can see 465 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: what it looked like when I bought it. You can 466 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: see the shag carpet, tan walls, and it's still even 467 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: though I didn't do anything to the house constructurally, just painting, 468 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: having the walls painted and bringing in different furniture. You're like, 469 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: what room is that? It looks completely different. I love 470 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: that because it was in this it was decorated for 471 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: the seventies, which I get. But I'm glad they had 472 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 3: the shag carpet because when we pulled the carpet up, 473 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: all we've done so far is just vacuum. 474 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: Wow. 475 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: So they covered up wood floors. I imagine, right, They 476 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: love doing that in the seventies, they covered up. 477 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: All those beautiful wooden floors. 478 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes, yes, and then the popcorn ceilings. 479 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's always great too. Yeah, it's so funny. 480 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: I live in a three hundred year old house and thankfu, yeah, 481 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: it's an adventure, but thankfully it's part of like a 482 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: historic preservation effort, so everything is still original inside. But 483 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm watching where I live because I live in New England, 484 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you see this too, you know, some 485 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: of these. 486 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: Old houses, especially lately. 487 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: This happened back in the seventies where people were either 488 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: gutting or tearing down Victorians by like like on a 489 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: crazy level. 490 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: And now here, at least. 491 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: In New England, people are moving into these Victorians and 492 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: they're just they're ripping out everything, painting them white, putting 493 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 2: in these big, like open air modern kitchens. 494 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, we're doing the same thing we did 495 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: in the seventies. 496 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, you know what's funny. You 497 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: say that because I have my real estate license, and 498 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: so right before I got on the call with you, 499 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: I was down the street showing a house to my 500 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: friends who want to see this house forever and it's 501 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: for fail now and so we go in. It's I'm 502 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: trying to think it's around the same time period as 503 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: my house, so late eighteen hundreds. But you go in 504 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: and it's all white and all brand new, and then 505 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: I was like, that had a little bit of the 506 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: exposed original brick, but that was it, and it made 507 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: me kind of sad. Yeah, I think now that I 508 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: get it, like, don't touch it. 509 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I consider like someone like 510 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: you and like me. 511 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: We're like we're stewards for history at. 512 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: This point, like right, you know, whenever you think of ghosts, 513 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: like you are preserving that house and so that on 514 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: its own is such a wonderful undertaking. So cheers to that, 515 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: no matter what happens there on a ghost level. 516 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. That's funny also because I will say, like, 517 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: you know, I can't obviously make the spirits appear. There 518 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: are going to be quiet nights. But you know, people 519 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: will write in the books downstairs if they experienced something, 520 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: but a lot of people will write, oh it's more 521 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: active if steps here, or it was quite until step 522 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: showed up, And I'm like, that's not true. People, So 523 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 3: I know that a lot of people ask me to stay, 524 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I just like me. They do what 525 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: they want, when they want, how they want. Yeah, I 526 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: don't ask questions. 527 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: It's funny though we I'm sure you probably already do this, 528 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: But like when I investigate a location, I always have 529 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: the owner kind of introduce me so they know that 530 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: like I'm supposed to be there, you know, because there 531 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: is sometimes they do get this comfort level with someone 532 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: who's associated with the property, either like an owner or 533 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: an employee or someone who lives there, and until they 534 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: kind of give them the go ahead, the ghosts, I 535 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: feel like sometimes are like, well I don't care about 536 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: these people, you know, So I. 537 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: Have never thought about that, that is, I haven't because 538 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: it's so it's when I start my tours, when people 539 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: check in and if they haven't been in before, obviously 540 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: I walk into the house, but we always go to 541 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: we start around the main staircase before we go to 542 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: the servant staircase, and so we're at the mainsrecase and 543 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: it's ninety five percent of the time it's like we 544 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: hear the footsteps coming around the landing, like who's here, 545 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: who's here? So that makes sense, like maybe I should 546 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: start doing that, because it's like they're coming around going 547 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: who's here today, who's Yeah, Yeah, that's a great idea. 548 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: I like it. 549 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it couldn't hurt to try it, you know, 550 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: because that'll help. Like if I'm in a place and 551 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: nothing's happening, I almost the almost the first thing I 552 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: do is call the owner or call someone who's familiar 553 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: with them and be like, can you come over here 554 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: and talk to them for me? 555 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: So that is so nice. 556 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: And then there's me. I'm like, I'll sell you and 557 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: it'll be a daycare center. 558 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I just oh, I love that. I'll sell you and 559 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: you'll be a daycare center. 560 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the daycare center that moves in something? 561 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 562 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, people show up like you know what this was? 563 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: Right? Like I love that? 564 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: So okay, So how many so you say like this, 565 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: you have this place for ghost tours and whatnot. And 566 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: then so you have investigators coming in regularly and they 567 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: get to stay the night and they get to investigate, 568 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you have ground rules right that, like 569 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: they have to be respectful and all of that fun stuff. 570 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so that's great. 571 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: So they come in and I mean, I love that 572 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: there are locations out there. People always ask like, how 573 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: do you get to investigate? How do you like, how 574 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: do I get started? And I love a place like 575 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: yours where it's like, yeah, you know, go support this 576 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: loving business, but also like go get your feet wet, 577 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: like this is the way you're in a controlled environment. 578 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Like I just love that. 579 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: Yes, of course I have another question, though, what is 580 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 2: it about Atchison? So I did the Sally House already 581 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: this season weirdly, and when I found this place because 582 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: I was kind of researching, like I'm like, what locations 583 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: do I want to do? I didn't even realize they 584 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: were in the same town until I started really digging 585 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: in and I was like, oh my gosh, so what 586 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: is it? 587 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: What's going on there? Steph? 588 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. It's so weird because well, 589 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: Levenworth is the next town over, and my friends and 590 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: I we went to Levenworth yesterday and we're like, and 591 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: there's a prison and there's just big old buildings and cooled. 592 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, so, who did the voting? What makes Atchison 593 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: the most haunted town in Kansas? And that's and I 594 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: don't know what makes it the most haunted. People say, 595 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: like the limestone in the water. I know there's limestone 596 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: in my basement. The Missouri River is right here, so 597 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: maybe that's it. I honestly don't know. 598 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's so interesting. And now it 599 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: also seems like the town has kind of leaned into it. 600 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Is that correct, Like they have they control like the 601 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: Sally House tours and everything, so like the local government 602 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: is kind of they realize that that is bringing people 603 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: to the town. 604 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: Do they work with you regularly? 605 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 606 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: They do. Oh, I just I love them. They're they're 607 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: just like haunted Atchison has been. In the beginning, it was. 608 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't the easiest in the very beginning, just because 609 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 3: the new person. And I don't think I don't know 610 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: if people knew what I knew or didn't know what 611 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: I was doing, or you know, stuff like that. And 612 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: it's also a religious town. There's the college, and so 613 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: just I try, you know, I just need not well yeah, 614 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: I do need to be respectful, for I didn't want 615 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: to be obviously disrespectful to like, not everyone enjoys ghost hunting, 616 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: not everyone is a not agrees, but yeah, and I 617 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: want agrees about ghost hunting. So I wanted to make 618 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: sure the first couple of years, I was just it's 619 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: still kind of quiet. I still don't go around saying, hey, 620 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: look at me, look at me. I've had the house 621 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: seven years and it still feels like I'm the new 622 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: person out there because people still haven't heard about me, 623 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: which has also been nice because everything's been word of mouth. 624 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: So with that being said, the Chamber has been just 625 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: backing me up. And there are other locations in Atchison. 626 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: There's actually a new place that's going to start doing 627 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: investigations too. It's the antique store downtown called back Road Atlas. 628 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: So I mean they're embracing all of the haunted stuff 629 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: and not just during Haunted Sea. They will help me 630 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: out throughout the year since ghost are twenty four seven, 631 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: not just you know October. Yeah, so they've been amazing. 632 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: They've been amazing. Yeah, I also not it also doesn't 633 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: hurt that like Veliska or Malvern two hours door to 634 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: door and I am all for I'm one of those 635 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: weird people that think everyone should have a participation trophy. 636 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just that. So I just I will 637 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: spread the word on other places too, because you know, 638 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: if things are two hours away, like make a weekend 639 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: of it, or like go to my house and the 640 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: Sally House. You know, I just tell people don't just 641 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: do what may do all or spend more than one 642 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: day at a location, because you'll probably get more activity. Yeah. 643 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean I love that you kind of do 644 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: like a little haunted vacation and kind of make a 645 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: few stops. And I mean I love that area in general. 646 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: It's just you know, I think it's kind of off 647 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: the beaten path and it's very interesting and you know, 648 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: having traveled through it many times because I keep finding 649 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: myself there even though I have not been to Atchison yet, 650 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: it's just it's a really interesting, like kind of got 651 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: a great small town feel. I love it there in 652 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: the summer. I think it's fun and you're right, it's 653 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: just like it's nice that they're kind of backing you 654 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: and they see the value in that. 655 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: Yes, and that you know, other people will not only 656 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: just be here, they will like I would do a 657 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: little boutique clothing for yes, right, and ask for their 658 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: business cards to put in my break room because I 659 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: just think when people are taking it three, there are 660 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 3: still stores open, so go like it helps support Atchison too, 661 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: So I think that that with the Chamber, I think 662 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: they just work with everybody and so that's that makes 663 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: it so nice that like if I want to have 664 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: or there is a tour group coming there and they 665 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 3: have nothing to do with Haunt stuff, but they're like 666 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 3: Saint Patrick's Day and mister mcinte is very irish. Yeah, 667 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: things like that. So like tour groups will come through 668 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: for that and just for the history of their architecture. 669 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's great. 670 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: It's nice that it's not just for Haunted, even though 671 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: that's ninety nine percent of with the business. 672 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: So okay, so if people want to on that, not 673 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: if people want to visit, like what do they do? 674 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm guessing on social media you also probably post a 675 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: lot of this evidence that you're getting too, right. 676 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: I do, I post and lot some of it is. 677 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: Lots of it actually is when I'm here by myself 678 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: and things just seem to happen. I don't know if 679 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: they do it. I think it's more active during the day. 680 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: People ask all the time, you know, if it's more 681 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: actually in the day or not. I think it's more 682 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 3: active during the day, probably because you know, I'm not 683 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: paying attention. So I will post things like that, like 684 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm at the dining room table and something is just 685 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: whistled very loudly at me, and I'm like what, Which 686 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: is so nice? With the cameras because I won't investigate 687 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 3: by myself. I'm very brave, but that's with other people. 688 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: So when I'm here alone, maybe they know that too, 689 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: and so I will post things that happen when I'm 690 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: by myself here. But also I have a thing on 691 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: my website that there are cameras throughout the house and 692 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 3: I've will change them up. But three people can watch 693 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: cameras from their home for ten dollars a month for 694 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: like three cameras, and so they can like investigate from 695 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: home too. They don't have to even be here. Yeah, 696 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: that's creaty is nice. That's what I do at the 697 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: Paranormal Circle. 698 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I have cameras. 699 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 2: I have them up in my attic on a bunch 700 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: of haunted artifacts and stuff. 701 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: So I do the same thing. 702 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: It's like you can just you can investigate from the 703 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: safety of your own home. 704 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: So there you go. 705 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: I love it. 706 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's great, Okay, So if people want to visit 707 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: what is like your website and everything how can they 708 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: get in touch with you? 709 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: What's the deal there? 710 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: They can go to eighteen eighty nine Macinturvilla dot com 711 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: and my phone numbers on there. They can text me, 712 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: call me, send me a message, and there's a calendar 713 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: on there. People can just book online. I book seven 714 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: days a week. I only mark off I think two 715 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: weeks around Christmas time, but other than that all year long. 716 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: Well that's lovely. 717 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: Well, I'm really glad to finally have gotten to speak 718 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: with you. I'm looking forward to hopefully visiting in the 719 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: near future so I can see this for my I've 720 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: got a tour Atchison and see all that that town 721 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: has to offer. It's got quite the reputation, a lot 722 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: yet amazing. Well, thank you so much for taking the time. 723 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: And I really do appreciate it. You've been lovely. 724 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it. 725 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 2: Today the Macinteer Villa feels frozen in time. It's still 726 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: decorated with period furniture and it's on the National Register 727 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: of Historic Places. It's also a home where history can 728 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: come to life, perhaps literally, because to all appearances, the 729 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: people from the villa's past have never left it behind. 730 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm Amy Bruney and This was Haunted Road. Haunted Road 731 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: is a production of iHeartRadio and GRIMM and Miles from 732 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: Air and Minky. Haunted Road is hosted and by me 733 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: Amy Bruney, with additional research by Cassandra de Alba. 734 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: This show is. 735 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: Edited and produced by supervising producer Rima el Kali, with 736 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: executive producers Aaron Menke, Trevor Young, and Matt Frederick. Learn 737 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: more about this show over at Grimandmild dot com, and 738 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 739 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.