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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. So when we do some spring

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Speaker 1: There's a close play at first base, you know, umpire

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Speaker 2: Let's keep it simple. Tequila, all right. Grant McCauley threw

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Speaker 1: Tito loves it. Tito. Frank Crouna loves it. Where Ken

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Speaker 1: You'll learn sometimes soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Wow, who wants to read this? We have volunteers.

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Speaker 1: You should, you should since you love the you love

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Speaker 2: I don't love that, source confirms Alden Gonzalez report. Craig

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Speaker 2: Missue was on the show yesterday. Cal Quantrell one year

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Speaker 2: a half million dollars. Yes, poor Miami, baby, tiny Miami

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Speaker 1: I dare you to name their starting lineup right now,

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Speaker 1: What's the catcher Flora's right? Flores is the catcher?

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Speaker 2: because I thought that it was good trade for them. Kyle,

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Speaker 2: Is he going to be a starter for the Marlins?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jonah Brad was pretty good down the stretch

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Speaker 1: Great, at some point you got to score.

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Speaker 2: To Scott, this is not my team. I lived there

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Speaker 1: You know what it tells me? Kelly Jensen wants to close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they excited me in different ways.

430
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Speaker 1: Okay, if they'll pitch me the sixth and seventh inning,

431
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Speaker 1: if you're on a if you're on a contender and

432
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: those dudes will pitch the six or seventh, they excite

433
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: me more than what most teams have in the sixth

434
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Speaker 1: and seventh.

435
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: David Robertson at this point in his career, is going

436
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: to pitch wherever. So you've got dead nailed Nunez agent

437
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz. I'm saying in a good way. David's on

438
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Speaker 2: the call as his self representation, going what do you

439
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: got for me? Because let me hold on. You want

440
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Speaker 2: me to pitch the sixth and the seventh at least

441
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Speaker 2: for now, because you've got three other high leverage guys.

442
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Speaker 1: That you like.

443
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Speaker 2: Hold On, let me ask my client. Yeah, he said,

444
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Speaker 2: that's fine. That's cool. We haven't had this in a

445
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: injury suck is back because we are starting, it's flowing in.

446
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Speaker 1: No, it's not about Rendon, so I don't everyone get

447
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: all excited.

448
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: It is about Rendon.

449
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Speaker 1: I know it's gotta be about Rendon.

450
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: We're going to get to some other ones too. But

451
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Rendon is having hip surgery Peramangen. The GM said

452
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Speaker 2: it is a long term thing, so it sounds like

453
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Speaker 2: they're going to be missing him for a while. It

454
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Speaker 2: starts to make the Mancotta signing make more sense, although

455
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Speaker 2: they weren't counting on Anthony Rendon either way. Of course,

456
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Speaker 2: there are going to be a lot of questions. AJ

457
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Speaker 2: he's going to have hip surgery, what's been going on

458
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Speaker 2: for the past four months? Does he want to play?

459
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not doing hip surgery because he doesn't

460
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: want to play. Like, nobody goes, oh, you know what,

461
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Speaker 2: I'm going to tear my hip apart and go under

462
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Speaker 2: the knife.

463
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But but if he's sore, he might

464
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Speaker 1: be looking listen. I don't know Anthony Rendome from I'm okay,

465
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Speaker 1: but I must say this. People also do surgery sometimes

466
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Speaker 1: so they don't hurt later in life. Maybe that's where

467
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: he's at.

468
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Speaker 2: Ah getting like the hip replacement ten years early.

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, think about krats. I mean, do you know?

470
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Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say that about anybody, because

471
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Speaker 1: I hope Anthony Rendon really does like baseball. But why

472
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Speaker 1: didn't you do this months ago? Did he hurt his

473
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Speaker 1: hip working out? Did he hurt his hip last year?

474
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Speaker 1: Did he hurt his hip some other time? Why are

475
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Speaker 1: we doing this right before spring training? So basically you

476
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Speaker 1: missed the whole year. I don't know. That would be

477
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Speaker 1: my question, that'd be like why why now? Like does

478
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Speaker 1: something happen? Hopefully we'll find out more. But if we

479
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: don't find out more, all will have to do is speculate,

480
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: and we'll speculate based on previous interactions of him, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: taking a little bit more time with fractures or contusions,

482
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Speaker 1: or the medical staff saying it's one thing and not

483
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Speaker 1: another thing.

484
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Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question. I mean, I

485
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: know there's you know, pride involved for owners, but when

486
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: do we get to the point where you just make

487
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Speaker 2: the phone call and you say, hey, we're good, We're done,

488
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: don't show up anywhere anymore, We're good.

489
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that kind of hasn't happened already. I mean more,

490
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Speaker 1: just two more years left, right too?

491
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Speaker 2: Is it two more years year? I think yeah. I

492
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: think he's got three total. I think.

493
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Speaker 1: I think after this year, depending on how he bounces back,

494
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Speaker 1: they're gonna I don't know if they have insurance on

495
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Speaker 1: this contract either, that's the question. If they have insurance,

496
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: they can go to him and say, hey, look, you

497
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Speaker 1: just say you can't play anymore. We can get insurance

498
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: for the next two years and call it even. You

499
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: can go home, you don't have to play, you collect

500
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Speaker 1: your money and see it kind of like you know,

501
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: I think that's what kind of happened with Prince Fielder, right.

502
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Prince Fielder was banged up a different situation. He had

503
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: the next problems. He couldn't play right. He wanted to play,

504
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: but he couldn't. And the range is like, look, we

505
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: got insurance on this thing. Let's uh, you know, sucks,

506
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: but that's the way it works.

507
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Speaker 2: Two years you were right, thirty eight million this year,

508
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: thirty eight million next year, and then see ya means

509
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: like slay this year.

510
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: This is it?

511
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: Right?

512
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would yeah, if there was three years, if

513
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: it was two more after this one, I would have said, no,

514
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't see them walking away from two of them,

515
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: but this is it. They'll walk away from the last one.

516
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: This is a tough question for you, but is this

517
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: the worst contract of all time? Because Steven Strasburg's pretty

518
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: far up there, I'm saying pushing forward. Strasburg was awesome

519
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: for the Gnats, but I'm talking about during the length

520
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: of the contract. He barely pitched and the Nats couldn't

521
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: get an insurance policy on him. They might have an

522
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: insurance policy on Anthony Rendon's contract. Talking about the Angels.

523
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: I would think Jeremy named a couple of Red Sox

524
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: because he's a Red Sox fan. He said, Pablo and

525
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Carl Crawford. But I think that no, I think I

526
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: think for me the stat that stands out as Ted Williams.

527
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have seen it on Twitter, where

528
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: Ted Williams played more games in the five years where

529
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: he also fought in World War Two for I think

530
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: three of those five years than Anthony Rendon has played

531
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: in the five years he's been an Angel. That's that's

532
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: a hell of a stat right there. So I mean,

533
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: is this the worst contract of all time? I don't know, Chris.

534
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: I think some people argue Chris Davis. Maybe Strasburg you

535
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: can make an argument with. But Strasburg had just won

536
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: the World Series. I know Rendon had two, but Strasburg

537
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: had just won the World Series. So then that's kind

538
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: of we're stuck there. I think because of what it's

539
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: brought to the Angels, you have to put it in

540
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: the top two or three for sure, because not only

541
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: has he not played, but the headaches he's caused. I

542
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: remember he punched a fan, he slapped a fan, and

543
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: he physically, you know, touched a fan in Oakland. You

544
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: know some of the interviews he's done and all the

545
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: questions everybody in that organization has had to answer him,

546
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: answer about him, and it's got to be in the

547
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: top two or three, doesn't it. He just hasn't been

548
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: on the field, whether whether he's been on or not, Like,

549
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he's number one. I really think Strausburg

550
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: is number one because they knew this. They knew Strausburg

551
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: was constantly you know, but he won the World Series

552
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: and so they were like, you know, they they were

553
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: drinking the kool aid and they said, hey, we're gonna

554
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: go ahead and get this contract. The insurance company said, no,

555
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: we're not even taking this on. They said, screw it,

556
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: We're still doing it. Like everything was pointing to they

557
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work out, and they did it. But with Rendon,

558
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: there's very few people that were that this deeked by Rendon.

559
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: So to me, Rendon's the second worst contract that I

560
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: can think of, but the most surprising second worst con

561
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: or the most surprising contract. I hope I wasn't surprised

562
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: by Strasburger's.

563
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope they have some insurance. Can we show

564
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: the other two tweets about the Angels. One of them

565
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: actually is really good news from Sam Blum of The

566
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: Athletic Their new spring training facilities are genuinely impressive. They'd

567
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Speaker 2: been running a minor league operation in the last few

568
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: years facility wise, now it is one of the nicest

569
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: in the big leagues, the kind of stuff that translates

570
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: in player development. Bravo. Seriously, we'd been calling this out

571
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: for a while, so had he. It took a minute,

572
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: but this stuff does matter, and in the grand time

573
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 2: of things, it's not that expensive to do it. In

574
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: baseball talk, right, if it's like, oh, I got to

575
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: do a ten million dollar renovation, it's like, Okay, what

576
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: is that in a player salary? Not that much? And

577
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: how much can you improve with your player development if

578
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: the right tools and resources are in place a lot?

579
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Speaker 2: So it's good.

580
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Speaker 1: The ROI on that is so huge, return on investment

581
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: is so huge, and it was less than a minor

582
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: league facility. You are hard pressed to go somewhere. Even

583
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: Oakland's facility that they had for the big leaguers was

584
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: not that bad. Nobody was living out of a tent,

585
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: Nobody was lifting in a tent like the Angels were.

586
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: That was That was like early two thousand's, late nineties

587
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: when AJ was in the in the bushes. Nobody's doing that.

588
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: That wasn't minor That wasn't even minor leagues. Don't don't

589
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: put that on on on minor league places. They got

590
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: nicer stuff. Than the Angels had in the big leagues.

591
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: All Right, one more on the Angels and then we'll

592
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: go to the other injuries. Here's someone on the men,

593
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: Robert Stevenson thrown off the mound first time today. No

594
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: concrete timetable for a return. He said he hopes to

595
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: be back by early July or around the All Star break.

596
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: Remember he was with the Reds for a while. Really

597
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: finds it. With the Rays, we were concerned.

598
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: This is a questionable signing. Remember when he went there,

599
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: when he signed three thirty something? Was it three fifty something?

600
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Speaker 2: I got it where you by the time you finish

601
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: your point.

602
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty five or something. Everyone was like, whoa, what's

603
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: a big contract for a guy that had like a

604
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: good half And then there was always some concern that

605
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: he was going to blow out, and he blew out

606
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: before he did much for him. So I mean, glad

607
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: he's coming back. But man, he got a nice contract,

608
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: and I'm always for players getting nice contracts.

609
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got three years, thirty three million dollars. Actually,

610
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, forget the Cincinnati part. He went from Pittsburgh

611
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: to Tampa Bay and then took off. They had him

612
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: tweak his slider. He had a slow slider, turned it

613
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: into a hard slider, basically got cutter. Also used to

614
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: split her more and then yeah, the elbow said ouch

615
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery and hopefully he's back for the finish

616
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: out the second contract.

617
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh, start throwing your slider harder and ripping it more.

618
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Speaker 1: And then oh man, all of a sudden, aUI ow

619
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Speaker 1: ol aUI no, no, just throw it hard a lot.

620
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: It happened. Just spin it, spin it more, throw it harder.

621
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Yeah, these arm injuries,

622
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: how is it happening? I don't get it. Sorry, next up,

623
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: fault yep, it is. It's always the baseball's fault and fans,

624
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: it's all our fault. Alex Cobb is not going to

625
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: be ready for opening day. AJ Hinch said he set

626
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: back about a month, so they've got a rotation spot open.

627
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Actually heard Hinch recently chatting I think it might have

628
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: been on Tiger Territory about how it's funny that they

629
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: went from the chaos scenario last year schoolble and then

630
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: who the heck knows who's pitching to what, in his

631
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: mind was some pitching depth. So he said there was

632
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: going to be a good competition in spring. This makes

633
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: it a little bit easier. I do want to point

634
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: out that we all consistently put Alex Cobb at the

635
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: bottom of the fifteen million dollars a year pitcher rankings,

636
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: so this hurts the cause even more. I put him

637
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: down there in terms of what he would bring to

638
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: the table, and then the injury factoring in here just

639
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: felt more to me like a eight to nine million

640
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: dollar contract, which still sounds wild to some, but it

641
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: just didn't sound like he should be balling in the

642
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: Charlie Morton justin Berlander world? Do you agree, AJ?

643
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Are we surprised by him being hurt? He's hurt every year.

644
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time. I mean, it's been

645
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Speaker 1: a long time since Alex Cobb has pitched a full

646
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: season that I can remember. He's made twenty five to

647
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Speaker 1: thirty starts. I don't I mean, I'm I don't have

648
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: his numbers in front of me. I'm sure Crats probably

649
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Speaker 1: hasn't pulled up, but I just this is not a surprise.

650
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Speaker 1: I mean, he barely he pitched last year, remember for

651
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Speaker 1: the Guardians at the end after he was traded over there.

652
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Speaker 1: You know, he gives you glimpses, like three or four starts,

653
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: so he pitches really well and then he's like, oh,

654
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: I can get traded to a different team, and then

655
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: he goes there and pitches three or four starts really well.

656
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Speaker 1: But it's always it's just always something, and that's just

657
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: the way some guys are. It's just always something with guys,

658
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: and it's thanks for them. Yeah, he was twenty eight

659
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight starts in back to back years twenty two

660
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Speaker 1: and twenty three when he was an All Star. But

661
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: before that, so basically in his last in his last

662
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: six seasons before that, it was twenty eighteen that he

663
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Speaker 1: made twenty eight starts. So those two years he was

664
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Speaker 1: All Star form. Let's put it this way. This guy,

665
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Speaker 1: when he is on the field, he is productive. He

666
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: knows when to make sure he is he is out there,

667
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: he knows he's ready to go. So to me, he's

668
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Speaker 1: gonna be one hundred percent when he's out there pitching

669
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Speaker 1: through some things don't know. To me, I mean, lance

670
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: Lynn should have already gotten a phone call as soon

671
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Speaker 1: as Alice Kyle came in, right like, you need innings,

672
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: you need innings, why not? Why not reach out to

673
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: those guys Kyle Gibson, guys that would just thrive Ink America.

674
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Speaker 2: Because Coby is going to come back, and they believe

675
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: that they have enough of a rotation right now. They're

676
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: not wrong, Schoobale Flawherty. Obviously at the top reees Olsen

677
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: was very good last year. They still want to try

678
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: myze out. Jackson job is going to be in the

679
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: rotation this year, so it makes it easier for them

680
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: to put together their opening day rotation now. Obviously, if

681
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: things start to go haywire after this, yeah, that conversation

682
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: can be had. But they feel like they're in a

683
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: better spot than last year. I agree with you Kratz.

684
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Speaker 2: I mean that could turn into three starters in five minutes.

685
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: We see that with teams all the time. Let me

686
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: get to two more. So we've got Spencer Horowitz going

687
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: down a new first baseman for the Pirates. He had

688
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: some pretty positive results with the Blue Jays involved in

689
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: all the little wheeling and dealing where the Blue Jays

690
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: end up getting Andre Semenez and it's a procedure on

691
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: his right wrist last week to address chronic symptoms. Always

692
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Speaker 2: the word you don't want to hear they're anticipating a

693
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: full recovery in approximately six to eight weeks. Follow up

694
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Speaker 2: your tweet from Jason Mackie. Post Gazette always super straightforward

695
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: on what's going on with the Pirates. That didn't like

696
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: the Pirates giving up that much starting pitching at the

697
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: time to get Horwitz. Still don't now the guy A

698
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: won't have spring training B apparently has a chronically bothersome wrist.

699
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Speaker 2: Was this known at the time of the trade? Why

700
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Speaker 2: give up so much then? So this is someone that

701
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: they are heavily relying on. Luis Ortiz is now going

702
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: to be part of the Cleveland pitching staff, and he's

703
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good pitcher. Pirates have been good at

704
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: developing pitching, bad at developing hitting. AJ their lineup's not

705
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Speaker 2: going to be good enough and we all know it.

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Speaker 1: No, no, we've discussed this over and over again. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Tom Graham, love you, love you, Tom, You're

708
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: the man. So I don't know, I don't know if

709
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Speaker 1: you ever had to go see him. He moved to

710
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Speaker 1: Orlando for a little while and saw him, and he

711
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland at the Mayo. I broke my risk

712
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: one time. He's a hand risk I one broke my

713
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: wrist one time. The White Sox told me I was

714
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Speaker 1: out for the year. I went saw him, he goes, no,

715
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Speaker 1: you can play in a week. So I played with

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Speaker 1: the broken wrist. But it's cool. Thanks Tom, love you

717
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: so good to see him getting a shout out. If

718
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: anyone knows what he's doing, it's Thomas Cram. Besides that, No,

719
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Speaker 1: this sucks for the Pirates because they were counting on

720
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Speaker 1: this guy when we just did our Pirates preview. What

721
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: they say we're counting on, Horror was to be a

722
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Speaker 1: bat for him. Now here, he is out in a

723
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: chronic risk that ain't good for a young hitter. Guys

724
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: have deal with wrist pain. It never goes away. I

725
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Speaker 1: don't think now. I mean, six to eight weeks doesn't

726
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: seem that bad. I want to know what he had

727
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Speaker 1: done because six to eight weeks to me sounds like

728
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: it sounds like a hammate, which I also had to

729
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: remember to have a scar to prove it. But I

730
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Speaker 1: don't know. Six to eight weeks for risk surgery, and

731
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: if it's not a handmade that seems like a minor thing.

732
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Speaker 1: But we'll see. Don't rush it though, Spencer, don't rush.

733
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Speaker 2: It very important, all right. Last one Dodgers no having Phillips,

734
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: no Michael Kopek to start the season. You know, we'd

735
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: heard about Kopek a little bit. Phillips had a tear

736
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: in the back of his rotator cuff that kept him

737
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: sidelined from the World Series PRP injection November. Didn't pick

738
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Speaker 2: up a baseball until January. Likelihood is he will not

739
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: be ready to start the season on schedule. Dave Roberts

740
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Speaker 2: said Phillips and Kopek both are a little behind scheduled.

741
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Too early to tell whether either would have to start

742
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: the season on the aisle. So actually take back what

743
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: I said nine seconds ago. Too early to tell, but

744
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: chances definitely tilting towards them not starting the season on

745
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: the roster. Good news. Dodgers have pitching depth, makes more sense.

746
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: Why you bring in Tanner, Scott and even Kirby Yates.

747
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, one team can handle this. One team that

748
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: can handle this is the Dodgers, right, I mean, the

749
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: one team that can handle this. They have depth. They

750
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Speaker 1: will go out and sign somebody if they need them.

751
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: The Dodgers, I mean, Evan Phillips had it going good

752
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: until he got hurt, but they have Trying and Scott Yates,

753
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: and they'll find three others that nobody's ever heard of,

754
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: probably to come in and do a great job. So

755
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: the Dodgers will be fine. Plus they have twenty two

756
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: starting pitchers, everyone keeps saying in the chat. So maybe

757
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: they'll throw one, maybe they'll close, who knows.

758
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one or two of those guys might

759
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: be in the bullpen. Not Otani, but Dustin mayn to

760
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: don Olin. Yeah, they've got options. Nobody is worried about them.

761
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: We moved to other topics. Here's one that I think

762
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: is pretty juicy. Katie Wu the athletic plus Cardinal territory.

763
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: John Mazzelak running the front office for one more year

764
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals. On Arnatto trade attempts, We're still looking.

765
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Speaker 2: Could something happen next week? Possibly, could this go into camp?

766
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: Possibly a trade of what happens remains very much in

767
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: the air. And then John Denton, who covers the Cardinals,

768
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: also picked up a quote from Moe who said he's

769
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: working with a list of five teams Arnado's being willing

770
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: to go to, and that list has not grown since

771
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: the end of the twenty fourth season. So to me,

772
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: that includes no Houston, although Houston doesn't really have relevance anymore.

773
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Speaker 2: But remember he turned down Houston. Mo said, quote, you know,

774
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Speaker 2: it's needless to say it's been frustrating. I mean, at

775
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: this point, Aja let him hopefully rake in the first

776
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: half and then become a more attractive trade piece because

777
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: he wants to go to Boston. Boston doesn't want to

778
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: pay for him. They just want him for free, and

779
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Good Luck player has all the power. Good Luck he doesn't.

781
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: They had a trade, they had him traded. He was

782
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: going to Houston, and he said no, he wants to

783
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: go to certain places. The five teams, I mean, we

784
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: pretty much don't We have the five teams pretty much

785
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: not down. But I mean I'm assuming Dodgers are one.

786
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: I thought the Red Sox would be one. No, the

787
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Red Sox definitely one.

788
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're number one.

789
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Yankees possibly would be one. Maybe Anaheim. I don't know.

790
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: I just Blue Jayson. But he's he's got the five

791
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: that you know. Mozailak said, there's five teams he's working with.

792
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Let's know, I want I want to know who the

793
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Speaker 1: five are. Let's see you can get a deal done,

794
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: because let's not forget mosay Loack told his agent, whoever

795
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: are not his agent, is hey make a trade. Find

796
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: a team that wants you. It was Houston and then

797
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: he said no. So I mean he said not yet.

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00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: He's not yeah yet.

799
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Speaker 2: Maybe next year, Yeah.

800
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if they make some moves.

801
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did right after he said no, they did

802
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: a lot. They moved on and they looked pretty good.

803
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: They pivoted hard that. I'm curious because you know, I've

804
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: talked to Nolan a few times trying to get him

805
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: on the show. It sounds like he wants to wait

806
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: until the trade, which we could be waiting for a minute.

807
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: But I am curious to find out eventually why he

808
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: said no to Houston. Cardinal Territory talks about this topic

809
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: a lot. It is the topic at spring training, Katie

810
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Woo and Trevor Rosenthal bringing it every single week. Temptation

811
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Speaker 2: bet MGM futures regular season strikeouts for Chris Sale won

812
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Speaker 2: seventy nine and a half. Do you guys want to

813
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Speaker 2: do you want me to tell you what the number

814
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: was last year? Do you want to just go for it?

815
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Speaker 1: Well? It was over too last year. I know that.

816
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: So, yeah, who's they're saying he's gonna have forty hold

817
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: on forty five ish less strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: That's because they're they're thinking he's going to have a

819
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: possibility of being injured this year. That's why the number

820
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Speaker 1: is down. And I think he's still going to be

821
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: around two hundred. I think Chris is motivated to have

822
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: another good year and if he stays healthy, he'll get

823
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: around two hundred again. So I'm taking the over just

824
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: because I like Chris and I want him again.

825
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: They need it, Yeah, they need to definitely read him.

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Speaker 1: And he said he's having a healthy at the end

827
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Speaker 1: of the season. Obviously he's back flared up, but he

828
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: said it cleared up soon after the playoffs were over,

829
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Speaker 1: after they're bounced, and he said the last time he

830
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: had a healthy off season was at the end of

831
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Going into twenty four, he's had another

832
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Speaker 1: healthy offseason. I'm taking the over.

833
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here, taking the over. It's a cool time

834
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: period where if I told you a year ago we'd

835
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Speaker 2: be talking about cy young Chris Sale and taking another

836
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: two hundred straight season, you'd be like, huh, yep, it's great,

837
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: and we just talked to him obviously at the Writers'

838
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Speaker 2: Awards dinner. So bet MGM fans, while you're waiting for

839
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Speaker 2: baseball season to begin and placing futures each Wednesday throughout

840
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: the season, you can pick a skater you think's going

841
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Speaker 2: to light the lamp first in a game. If it's

842
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: not your player, but he scores the second goal of

843
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: the game, you get your stake back in cash. You

844
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Speaker 2: can only get that on bet MGM. Gambling problem or

845
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Speaker 2: concern call one eight hundred gambler, hotcorner. Let's go over

846
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Speaker 2: some signings. Michael A. Taylor Chicago White Sox deal done,

847
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Speaker 2: Robert Murray reporting on it, and they've got themselves a

848
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: little bit of outfield depth, always very good in the outfield,

849
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: has always had the swing and misconcerns, guys. But he

850
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: signs four one point nine to five million dollars and

851
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Speaker 2: there's performance bonuses. He got four MILI from Pittsburgh last year.

852
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: So it takes about a fifty percent pay cut. Bacill

853
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Speaker 2: a major league contract. AJ, how much better are the

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Speaker 2: White Sox? Now that's it that much?

855
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Well, you ask me how much better they are? I mean,

856
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: does this move the needle for you Michaelay Taylor and mean,

857
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: he plays a good defense. But they have Louise Robert

858
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: and center. Right, they have Benettendy and left, and I

859
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna play it right. But do you

860
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying? Like what this this is a

861
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: this is one of those. Okay, he's a nice bench player.

862
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: I guess he's gonna maybe platoon with Ben Attende. But

863
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: do you platoon your highest played player of all time?

864
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know until they trade somebody. They're not trading

865
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: Bennettendy unless he starts on fire and the trade Luise Robert,

866
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Luise Robert. They better get something because he's coming off

867
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: a bad year. I found the White Sox. I'm waiting though,

868
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: because MIKEL. Taylor, this is the guy you trade. You're

869
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: supposed to trade, and like what the pirates did, this

870
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: is the guy you're supposed to trade at the trade deadline,

871
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to You don't want to trade Louise

872
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Robert Junior. Now he's coming off a bad year. To

873
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: have him start off get didn't trade him offensively, it's

874
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: just not it's not there. So maybe he can come

875
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: in and defend a little bit late in games and

876
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: play against them lefties. You don't want to overexpose him

877
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: in the sense of giving him too many AaB's. You

878
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: get a lot of strikeouts. I thought the year he

879
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: had with the Twins in twenty three and he had

880
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: twenty one pumps. Ops was finally over seven hundred for

881
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: just a second time in his career. But his value

882
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: was in center and they didn't overexpose him. I just

883
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like this. I don't know.

884
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. They signed with the White

885
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: Sox unless something happens with the Robert. If Luise Robert

886
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: gets traded, then it'll be an opportunity for a real

887
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: centerfielder to play there for him instead of trying to

888
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: find a center fielder after they get rid of Roberts.

889
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: He's getting paid two million dollars to plan a team

890
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: with absolute zo Rod pressure and probably might go weeks

891
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: at a time without a media member coming over to

892
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: ask him a question. There are worse gigs. Just throwing

893
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: that out there.

894
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: It's a true league deal.

895
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: It's a big league contract, and there are a lot

896
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: of players that don't understand how they don't get big

897
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: league offers. So I think he's appreciative of what he's got.

898
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: On that note, the Minnesota Twins signed Ty France. It's

899
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: a non guaranteed one million bucks, but if he makes

900
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: the opening day roster that kicks in, which is in

901
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: baseball terms, only a drop over the league minimum. The

902
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: league minimums in the seven hundred thousands, but could do

903
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: a little first base dach action. He's a guy who's

904
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: always made contact with the baseball, you know, never been

905
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: a huge power guy, but had enough pop aj for

906
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: a three year stretch to be twenty five percent better

907
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: than league average every single season. So and that included

908
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two All Star season. He hasn't been

909
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: bad since, he's just been more average. And he's not

910
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: a glove guy. He's not a platoon where he can

911
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: come out and crush one side. So I think that's

912
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: kind of helped him back, but he could probably still

913
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: be an effective Player's I've got to look up the age.

914
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: I think thirty one.

915
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, just got what the Twins have done. Now,

916
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: the Twins aren't really signing the big fish. They're trying to,

917
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, play in the margins, right and siging guys

918
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: that hopefully can bounce back. But he kind of fell

919
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: off a cliff. I mean, he was he was, like

920
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: you said, he was really good and then he just

921
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know what happened, but didn't end

922
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: up great last year. I think can he help the Twins. Sure,

923
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: if he's right and he's healthy and all that stuff,

924
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: But I mean that's a lot of ifs, and he doesn't. Again,

925
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Michael Taylor doesn't move the

926
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: needle a lot for me if I'm a Twins fan.

927
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody told him about the Batters. He was hot

928
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: in Seattle and then they were like, hey, did you

929
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: know the batter's eyes off and everybody feels crooked in

930
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: the box, and he's like, I can't unseit it. I

931
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: can't unset.

932
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: They're trying to build some depth in Minnesota. I mean,

933
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking at their lineup. Willie Castro, Carlos Correa, Larnick,

934
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: Buxton and Wallner in the outfield, Lewis at third, They've

935
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: got Miranda at first, here on Fan Grafts, Brooksley at second,

936
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Jeffers catching with Basquez backing them up, and then

937
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: a bench of France Edward Julian and Harrison Bader. Those

938
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: are big league players.

939
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: He's a big league first base He's a big league

940
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: first baseman, and I think they didn't have a lot

941
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: of depth there. I think they would love for Miranda

942
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: to play first all year and have some of the

943
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: hot stretches that he's had, because that would mean that

944
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: royce Lewis is playing every day at third base. He

945
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: played fifty nine of the last sixty games and it

946
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: was the worst stretch of royce Lewis's career. So they're

947
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to work that in somewhere, and to add

948
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: a big leaguer. Ty Franz is a big leaguer. He's

949
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: an ex All Star not that long ago. It's a

950
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: good move. It's not a oh, never mind, they're gonna

951
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: win the division type of move. But that's fine. They're

952
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: not playing in those waters right now.

953
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: No. They had a really good year out of Carlos

954
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: Santana in twenty twenty four. Gold Glove was smashing the

955
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: crap out of left handed pitching. But he got expensive

956
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: and they weren't going to play ball for him. So

957
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: this is how they work on a replacement. This is

958
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: what they have to do. I don't feel bad for

959
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: the Twins anymore because they're about to get sold and

960
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: they actually do have enough of a team together that

961
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: if a cool billionaire takes over and adds a little

962
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: bit more, they could do a lot of damage in

963
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: that division. So if you're a Twins fan, keep your

964
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: head up. Good news coming soon. Let's do this. We

965
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: want to give love to our other shows and the

966
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: content that they provide. So Astro's manager Joe Spotta was

967
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: on Crush City Territory the other day. Let's get a

968
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: little bite.

969
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: Who's going to be that player that you pick? He's

970
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: going to have like I could see, So who's like

971
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: you pick to click? And for me?

972
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Is for me? Is? You know?

973
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: I told the person Jeremy Penya because I think he's

974
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: the next guy that I also see stepping up and

975
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: being kind of the bucal leader in our club. You know,

976
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: he's that guy that when we are doing our meetings

977
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: and were walking around the clubhouse, he's he's he wants

978
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: to be the guy, say, you know, but but he

979
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: sees the breakman's and he sees the other guys has

980
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: been there longer. But I think, if you know, not

981
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: if Breakman does not return, I could see Jeremy being

982
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: a little bit more of like, you know, hey, maybe

983
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: we could we try to do this because he's done it,

984
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: but I think you could probably see him kind of

985
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: taking that next step forward in that littleship of a

986
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: role in the clubhouse and be phenomenal because you know,

987
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 3: that shortstop middling fielder usually are the ones who are

988
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: have that that personality and a zene there. So I

989
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: could see him being that dude this year where he's

990
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: having a monster year on the field, and also we're

991
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: talking about having conversations about you know, you know, conversation

992
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: he's had with some of the players are standing up

993
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: and having like a little team meeting, you know.

994
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 4: So I could see Jeremy being being that guy.

995
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: Definitely a leader. Jeremy Pania looking for more bat Chrush

996
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: Citty Territory talks about these topics all the time. Josh

997
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: Reddick part of the party with Tyler Stafford and Chandler

998
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: Romer covers the team every day. A lot of great

999
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: shows that obviously are giving us really good interview content,

1000
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: so we'll keep putting them in this show all season long.

1001
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: Jeremy Panna was exactly league average batt last year by

1002
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: ops plus. I know I used that a lot. It's

1003
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: just an easy way to explain things to everyone. But

1004
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 2: he was two sixty six, fifteen homers, seventy RBIs, twenty

1005
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: stolen bases, four win player, plays really nice defense. Do

1006
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: you think he could take another step? Aj or it's

1007
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: been too much time? You do you think he can

1008
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: do one more step?

1009
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: But they thought he was gonna do it after the

1010
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: year they won, they thought he was going to take

1011
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: the next step. I remember he had an unbelievable playoff

1012
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: run and they're like, oh, he's figured it out. And

1013
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: he hasn't taken the next step for a full year.

1014
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: He's made a couple of swing changes. I think he

1015
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: just needs to find someone stick with it. Listen, if

1016
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: you can't hit a slider, do you know what, don't

1017
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: swing at him. I know it's easier said than done,

1018
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: but wait for your fastball. I don't know. I mean

1019
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: that was kind of the knock on him. But you know,

1020
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: find something and just stick with one thing. It's like

1021
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: his bats, heer his bats. He's trying to do it.

1022
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: He's trying to do this, like, just find something that works.

1023
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: And it's gonna not work for a little while, but

1024
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: don't make it complete Draassic change, stick with one thing

1025
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: and play with a germy. You're too good. That's tough.

1026
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: Very few guys who changed that much have consistent success

1027
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: to have an MVP type of season.

1028
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 2: That's a good call. You do always look and you're like, Okay,

1029
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: it looks very different. It's not like where the show

1030
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: that have nothing to talk about will be like, look,

1031
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: it's Pinky changed here, like he actually makes significant changes,

1032
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: all right, A lot to do here. You can get

1033
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: Kratz hats ready because I also want to shout out Codfather,

1034
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Happy birthday, Jake Wiener, big FT fan, Happy birthday.

1035
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: We love you all of you, Logan o'happy and Jack

1036
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Clarty on the show tomorrow on the guest list, and

1037
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: what do you have on your head?

1038
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: At the finish line, Craig miss did not send us

1039
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: to me. Appreciated new era. I mean it's a clean hat.

1040
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't have a Marlins hat. A lot of cool details.

1041
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: Let's go spring training