Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. We were talking the last hour a
Speaker 1: bit about some of the big things Trump is discussing
Speaker 1: or was discussing in the Oval office. I want to
Speaker 1: bring you some of those highlights. We've got stuff about
Speaker 1: restricting foreign foreigners from going to US colleges and universities.
Speaker 1: We've got the foreign nationals from high risk countries that
Speaker 1: are banned travel band, if you will, Lisa're not calling
Speaker 1: them a Muslim band this time, because Cuba and Venezuela
Speaker 1: not necessarily thought of, as you know, the Islamic world
Speaker 1: have been some of the countries that are on there. Clearly,
Speaker 1: it's not that I remember the first Trump administration they're
Speaker 1: as saying it's a Muslim bands, and then they had
Speaker 1: to add like North Korea onto it. They said, look,
Speaker 1: these are just countries that are messed up. It wasn't
Speaker 1: Trump's fault. There are a lot of messed up countries
Speaker 1: that are Muslim majority. And then there's also some stuff
Speaker 1: on the call with she and and Trump's relationship with Elon.
Speaker 1: This is hitting a little bit of a speed bump.
Speaker 1: You could say, the the self driving of the Trump
Speaker 1: Elon relationship is having a couple.
Speaker 2: Of bugs in the system. We'll talk about this.
Speaker 1: It is not a surprise to.
Speaker 2: Me that this is where things are right now.
Speaker 1: But I I you know, wait, I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 1: When Trump and Elon, when I see there's a little
Speaker 1: static with Trump and Elon, it's like watching my parents fight.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, come on, you guys are the good guys.
Speaker 1: No fighting, It'll be it'll be fine, it'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But my parents like never fought, so that was very nice.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, let's see here we
Speaker 1: have I saw other.
Speaker 2: People's parents fights. I'd be like, oh, that's not fun.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's do, dude, do first. The Trump call with Elon,
Speaker 1: this is this is a big deal because all the
Speaker 1: tariff stuff with all these other countries, we all know
Speaker 1: that can get negotiated. I think we're quite clear that
Speaker 1: EU stuff, Canada stuff Canada.
Speaker 2: You know we love Canada.
Speaker 1: You know Trump gives you some Trump gives you a
Speaker 1: hard time a little bit, but you know we love
Speaker 1: you Canada. China is a problem.
Speaker 2: That's a different that's a different thing. Right.
Speaker 1: The China is an issue for the United States, and
Speaker 1: he's doing bad things, particularly on trade, and it's taking
Speaker 1: a lot of our trade secrets and exploiting I think
Speaker 1: the good faith of the American capitalist mindset and system,
Speaker 1: and so we got to take.
Speaker 2: A different approach with them.
Speaker 1: Here. This was Trump just now in the Oval Office.
Speaker 1: He had a chat with a president Shi Jinping of China,
Speaker 1: and here is what he had to say about it,
Speaker 1: Play twenty five.
Speaker 3: We did a very good talk and we've straightened out
Speaker 3: any complexity. This is very complex stuff and we straightened
Speaker 3: it out. The agreement was we're going to have Scott
Speaker 3: and Howard and Jamison will be going and meeting with
Speaker 3: their top people and continued forward. But no, I think
Speaker 3: we have everything. I think we're very good shape with
Speaker 3: China and the trade deal. We have a deal with China,
Speaker 3: as you know, but we were straightening out some of
Speaker 3: the points.
Speaker 1: Having to do mostly with rare earth magnets and some
Speaker 1: other things. So it's produced trade tarif rates. They remain
Speaker 1: in effect. We have the deal.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've had a deal, we announced the deal
Speaker 3: and will be I guess you could say I wouldn't
Speaker 3: even say finalizing an up Scott. I would say we
Speaker 3: have a deal, and we're going to just make sure
Speaker 3: that everybody understands what the deal is.
Speaker 1: We have a deal, and he wants to get more
Speaker 1: clarity on the deal. You know, what's one big difference
Speaker 1: between this Trump administration that you're already seeing and the
Speaker 1: Biden administration. Stuff actually happens with this Trump administration. There
Speaker 1: are things in motion that are to the benefit of
Speaker 1: the American people. Think about so much of what was
Speaker 1: going on with Biden. What was the Biden What was
Speaker 1: Biden's trade policy? What was Biden's China policy? Biden didn't
Speaker 1: know that much is clear. So if the guy who
Speaker 1: is named for the policy isn't even aware of the policy,
Speaker 1: and we all understand why, it's pretty clear that there
Speaker 1: would have been some gaps. You could say there would
Speaker 1: have been some shortcomings in Biden China trade relations and
Speaker 1: dealing with them in the economy. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: think about this. If you were putin and well, you
Speaker 1: can't be putin and Chesion Ping, I mean, that would
Speaker 1: be interesting, right, But if you were Vladimir Putin. This
Speaker 1: is one of the problems I have now when I
Speaker 1: do radio, is that Ginger the baby Ginger's very good
Speaker 1: with the baby, so that's good news. But Ginger is
Speaker 1: more attention starved than she's ever been. So now she
Speaker 1: used to always leave me alone during radio. Now she
Speaker 1: run over to me, and because she has free reign
Speaker 1: of the house, of course, because she's spoiled, and she
Speaker 1: drops her fetch ball at my feet during radio. So
Speaker 1: if it ever sounds like I'm like, wait, what's going on,
Speaker 1: it's because the dog and she she holds me hostage
Speaker 1: because if I don't play fetch at least in the
Speaker 1: commercial breaks, then she starts to whine, and you'll hear
Speaker 1: all across the country they'll hear my little Australian labradoudal whining.
Speaker 1: But you know, such such as last and it's I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, because the little baby gets so much attention.
Speaker 1: She's more than ever now. She's she makes these little
Speaker 1: noises and stuff. Anyway, she loves the baby though. She's
Speaker 1: very sweet to the baby. So at least I'm very
Speaker 1: grateful for that. All right, So Trump and and Xi
Speaker 1: Jinping are squaring off against each other on this trade issue.
Speaker 1: And let's just take a moment to recognize if you
Speaker 1: were Ji in paying or you were Vladimir Putin or
Speaker 1: really any world leader, because we all operate. You and
Speaker 1: I operate in the real world, which is other countries,
Speaker 1: whether it's China or France, or the UK or Guatemala.
Speaker 1: Other countries want to get the best they can for
Speaker 1: their people when they interact with us, and you know what,
Speaker 1: that's fine. That's how we would expect it to be.
Speaker 1: This is why Trump's America first. The notion of a
Speaker 1: government representing the American people that privileges and prioritizes the
Speaker 1: interests of the American people over non Americans should be
Speaker 1: the basic approach of any administration. But actually Trump, it's
Speaker 1: revolutionary because we've gone through so many iterations of well,
Speaker 1: what do the Europeans think? Well, what the you know
Speaker 1: what is like the Human Rights Counsel or to the
Speaker 1: Hague or whatever, the u N what do they think
Speaker 1: about this? I don't care. I frankly don't care what
Speaker 1: the UN thinks about anything. So if you were though,
Speaker 1: picking who to sit across the table from you as
Speaker 1: an adversary, uh, which means and I mean that by
Speaker 1: any country that's trying to get more from us, could
Speaker 1: you have done better than Joe Biden or Anthony Blincoln.
Speaker 1: Anthony Blincoln, really to think about the people who were
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more about Karina Jean Pierre later. I
Speaker 1: know she was just a spokesperson really, but think about
Speaker 1: those who were supposed to be making the key decisions
Speaker 1: around Biden. You wouldn't want any of these people to
Speaker 1: work for you at your company. You wouldn't want any
Speaker 1: of them as colleagues. They're not dependable, they're not wise,
Speaker 1: they're not impressive. Not stuff matters. It matters with world.
Speaker 1: You know, either either who the president is makes a
Speaker 1: difference in foreign policy or it doesn't. And if it
Speaker 1: does make a difference, clearly we were at a huge
Speaker 1: disadvantage with Biden as the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: and we are seeing something very different now with Trump.
Speaker 1: We're seeing something that we should have had all along,
Speaker 1: which is somebody who can actually process Nego Sheate, has
Speaker 1: a strategy, understands the interpersonal dynamics of power.
Speaker 2: Biden's just a graft machine. Biden's an imbecile. And I
Speaker 2: said it all along, You knew it. I knew it
Speaker 2: all right now.
Speaker 1: On the restricting foreign nationals from these high risk countries,
Speaker 1: Trump spoke about this as well in the oval with
Speaker 1: the Chancellor, not the Prime Minister, but the Chancellor of
Speaker 1: Germany twenty six Play it.
Speaker 2: Please on your.
Speaker 4: New travel band?
Speaker 5: Why now?
Speaker 4: And if the Boulder attack was part of your reasoning,
Speaker 4: why not include Egypt on that list where the suspect
Speaker 4: is front well?
Speaker 3: Because Egypt has been a country that we deal with
Speaker 3: very closely. They have things under control. The countries that
Speaker 3: we have but don't have things under control.
Speaker 1: And why now?
Speaker 3: I can say that it can't come soon enough. Frankly,
Speaker 3: we want to keep bad people out of our country.
Speaker 3: The Biden administration allowed some horrend this people and we're
Speaker 3: getting them out one by one and we're not stopping
Speaker 3: until we get them out. We have thousands of murderers.
Speaker 3: I even hate to say this in front of the
Speaker 3: Chancellor because you have a little problem too with some
Speaker 3: of the people that were allowed to country.
Speaker 2: It's not your fault, it's.
Speaker 3: Not your fault. It shouldn't have happened. I told her
Speaker 3: it shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1: What she did, her meaning Angela Angler, was like Donald,
Speaker 1: but we have to take all of this Third World,
Speaker 1: from the warton, the war torn countries into America Achtung
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, into Germany, but into Germany Achtung deutz Land
Speaker 1: not good, not good, Angela not helping anybody out and
Speaker 1: well helping I guess the people that are now exploiting
Speaker 1: their access to German welfare and the German system. Isn't
Speaker 1: it also remarkable how many of these people come to countries,
Speaker 1: whether it's in Europe or it's in America, and they
Speaker 1: and they have complaints, they want to complain, and we're
Speaker 1: never allowed to look at them and say, why does
Speaker 1: your country suck so much? I'm just wondering, like you know,
Speaker 1: oh well, I'm not just talking about countries that have
Speaker 1: a war, but it's also worth noting why are these
Speaker 1: countries that having civil wars or having these problems. Usually
Speaker 1: it's sectarian hatreds, so they hate the people that live
Speaker 1: within their country, never mind how they're going to get
Speaker 1: along with all the rest of us. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: never get to ask that question. I just think that
Speaker 1: there should be Again, this is one of the reasons.
Speaker 1: And I say this, and it's not just because I
Speaker 1: love getting high fives from my South Florida Latinos and
Speaker 1: Latinas who listen to this show.
Speaker 2: But it's really true.
Speaker 1: My South Florida, Latinos and Latinas or a lot of them,
Speaker 1: Cuban Americans, Venezuelan Americans, they freaking love.
Speaker 2: This place and they appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And they're also a voting Republican as they have for
Speaker 1: a lot of humans have for a long time, and
Speaker 1: more and more Venezuelans are. They appreciate this place. They
Speaker 1: come here and they say, Wow, America is awesome. The
Speaker 1: communist hellhole I left is a warning to the rest
Speaker 1: of the world.
Speaker 2: This is why they're so great.
Speaker 1: When you get these people who show up from some
Speaker 1: other country, they come in illegally. They're being told by
Speaker 1: the NGO, you know, America did your people wrong, and
Speaker 1: you know you should get all of the welfare you want.
Speaker 2: And you should. That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker 1: Anybody who comes to this country should be thrilled to
Speaker 1: be in this country and should be working on their
Speaker 1: americanness from day one. And we see what happens in
Speaker 1: Europe and that's not the case. When I say working
Speaker 1: on their americanness, you know, becoming productive, law abiding English
Speaker 1: speaking members of their community, their society and all of that.
Speaker 1: And that's that should be the expectation in Europe. It
Speaker 1: was like self hatred on display. We'll never forget. I
Speaker 1: was talking to the equivalent of the Swedish kind of
Speaker 1: like the Swedish FBI.
Speaker 2: I forget what they Braduh.
Speaker 1: I was there years ago at the CIA, and we're
Speaker 1: helping them with some terrorism issues.
Speaker 2: Oh why did Sweden have terrorism issues?
Speaker 1: Anyone want to guess? Anyone want to take a stab
Speaker 1: at that one? You know, was spent all off all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, so upset about uh the state benefits
Speaker 1: for his free health care or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, He's like, no, No.
Speaker 1: They brought in a bunch of Middle Eastern Muslims from
Speaker 1: war charned countries who guess what, hate the West, that
Speaker 1: hate Europe and started doing really bad things. Started going
Speaker 1: back and forth also between the country that they say
Speaker 1: they had to flee for their lives and the country
Speaker 1: that had taken them in. They arrive in many cases
Speaker 1: in these countries and they think that we are suckers.
Speaker 2: They are taking us for a ride.
Speaker 1: And you see this with some of the e moms,
Speaker 1: for example, who have been very much on the radar
Speaker 1: of m I five in the UK, which is their
Speaker 1: domestic intelligence service and trying to expel some of the
Speaker 1: some of them are so bad. We're like, look, you
Speaker 1: got to go back to wherever you came from. That's
Speaker 1: actually happened in Europe in some cases, but in Sweden.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to him. I said, you guys have
Speaker 1: brought in a million Middle Eastern refugees. What do you
Speaker 1: think is going to happen with this? And they because
Speaker 1: these weren't politicians, these are people that were dealing with
Speaker 1: the counter terrorism.
Speaker 2: Side, we have a big problem. We have a big challenge.
Speaker 2: And he didn't just mean stopping terrorism attacks.
Speaker 1: He meant they move into neighborhoods outside of some of
Speaker 1: the major cities. They don't they don't want to learn
Speaker 1: the language, they don't want to adopt the culture, they
Speaker 1: want to set up Sharia courts.
Speaker 2: They want it their own.
Speaker 1: Way, and they want to be able to advocate for
Speaker 1: the slow but certain overthrow of the culture and the
Speaker 1: rule of law and the.
Speaker 2: Nation that they have come to imagine that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like I said before, these
Speaker 1: when you're talking about people that are coming from these countries,
Speaker 1: and you know, we saw this with the Boulder attack.
Speaker 1: This guy's commas here. He says he wants asylum. He's
Speaker 1: got a he's got a wife and children. They're here now.
Speaker 1: And and he goes and he lights Jews on fire.
Speaker 1: He creates a flamethrower and malots off cocktails. He's trying
Speaker 1: to light Jewish people, Jewish Americans on fire, instead of
Speaker 1: thinking about how lucky and grateful he is to be
Speaker 1: in America.
Speaker 2: That's what he does.
Speaker 1: This is this is as I was saying, somebody running
Speaker 1: up to you says, I'm I'm there's there's a tornado coming.
Speaker 1: Please take me into your house or else I'm going
Speaker 1: to die, and you, out of the kindness of your heart,
Speaker 1: say yes, sure, here, come into my cellar with me
Speaker 1: and my family. And then as the tornado passes, they
Speaker 1: look at you and they go, it's my house. Now,
Speaker 1: that's happening. That has happened, and it is time we
Speaker 1: woke up to this and said enough, no more of that,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I'm glad to see the Trump
Speaker 1: administration recognizes that we don't have to take people in
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Speaker 1: to Ron Vitello, US Customs and Border Protections Senior Advisor. Ron.
Speaker 2: Thanks for making the time for us. Let's just start
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 1: How is it that Trump is able to secure the
Speaker 1: southern border almost at a one hundred percent level. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's in the ninety something percent drop so quickly.
Speaker 2: How do you do it?
Speaker 5: Leadership matters. He's got a good team in place, with
Speaker 5: the likes of Secretary Nome, and there are now consequences
Speaker 5: unlike anything I've ever seen on the Southwest border. So
Speaker 5: rhetoric that says we're going to do this, the American
Speaker 5: people gave him that mandate action by the front line,
Speaker 5: you know, directed by the leadership, and actual consequences to
Speaker 5: the event of crossing the border illegally are now in
Speaker 5: place in a way. Like I've said, Like you know,
Speaker 5: I've been in and out of this business for forty
Speaker 5: years and I've never seen anything like it. It was
Speaker 5: so rapid the change at the Southwest border. It even
Speaker 5: surprised me.
Speaker 1: But so I think this would be really interesting, Ron,
Speaker 1: if I could just ask you, because I had seen,
Speaker 1: unfortunately in the bad old days of the wide open border,
Speaker 1: what happens. People would would walk up to border patrol.
Speaker 1: I mean they would walk across where there wasn't a
Speaker 1: wall or there wasn't barrier, which there's a lot of
Speaker 1: places where that's still the case. They'd walk up and
Speaker 1: they would wave border patrol down. They would say here
Speaker 1: I am, and sometimes through a translator, or sometimes they
Speaker 1: would say it in English some version of I have
Speaker 1: a credible fear of violence in my country. And they
Speaker 1: would be processed and let into America, sometimes with a
Speaker 1: like a ticket to a peer, and show up somewhere
Speaker 1: in the system later on. I mean, the whole thing
Speaker 1: was just a joke. What happens now if you show
Speaker 1: up and you just want to come into America illegally.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a high likelihood that when you're arrested, even
Speaker 5: if you gave up or if you were trying to evade,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of that's still going on. You're taking
Speaker 5: into custody like before, you're put into the system like before,
Speaker 5: and then you referred for prosecution the acceptance right from
Speaker 5: the US Attorney's office all across the southwest border and
Speaker 5: the northern border in some places as well as over
Speaker 5: ninety percent. And so I'll just give you an example
Speaker 5: of what that means. When I was a second line
Speaker 5: supervisor in Nogallas, Arizona, we could not present a smuggling case,
Speaker 5: a criminal felony smuggling case to the US Attorney's office
Speaker 5: unless there were fifteen smuggled aliens in the vehicle that
Speaker 5: we were trying to prosecute the smuggler for driving. Right now,
Speaker 5: they're taking first time entrants who enter the border illegally
Speaker 5: as a case. It's dramatically different than it's ever been.
Speaker 5: And so the high likelihood is that after your process
Speaker 5: and put into the system, you're going to be referred
Speaker 5: and then accepted for prosecution and you'll have to see
Speaker 5: a judge for the crime committed crossing the border illegally
Speaker 5: when that process is over. And that was individuals sentenced,
Speaker 5: regardless of what country they're from, they're sent back very rapidly.
Speaker 5: The average time and custody for folks that are in
Speaker 5: iced attention is very very low, low, lower than it's
Speaker 5: been in a long time, and so people are being
Speaker 5: removed from the US all over the world and very
Speaker 5: short order.
Speaker 1: And also I'm seeing a lot of confusion ron from
Speaker 1: some parts of the media, maybe confusion, surprise, astonishment that
Speaker 1: there's such a drop in sentinel at the border that's
Speaker 1: crossing what's going on there, Because I think I think
Speaker 1: our audience, I think everybody right now, they listen, they go, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course they know that this has been a
Speaker 5: problem for many, many years. The President engaged worldwide, specifically
Speaker 5: in Canada and Mexico, the threat of terraces tariffs, just
Speaker 5: to make sure that they weren't allowing precursors to come
Speaker 5: into the country from China, and that they had to
Speaker 5: do more on the border, on the physical border, to
Speaker 5: protect that border. And so both of those countries engaged
Speaker 5: again in ways I've never seen. Right, ten thousand troops
Speaker 5: from the Mexican National Guard deployed on their northern border,
Speaker 5: our southern border. Canada has done more to protect their
Speaker 5: physical border than I've ever seen. Helicopters, night vision equipment,
Speaker 5: dedicated patrols from state, local, provincial, and the Royal Canadian
Speaker 5: Mounted Police, and so everybody is doing their part to
Speaker 5: help protect those borders the sovereignty of each of their countries,
Speaker 5: thereby giving us a better chance at the physical border
Speaker 5: to find this stuff, and then the cartels know that
Speaker 5: it's just not a walk in the park as it
Speaker 5: was for the four years of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1: That's that's remarkable. I just to make sure that everyone
Speaker 1: is is clear on this one. What you're telling me
Speaker 1: is that on tariffs alone, there has been a big
Speaker 1: victory for the border, so that the tool of tariff
Speaker 1: negotiations to get us border security that's already a win,
Speaker 1: is what I'm gathering from what you're saying. Especially with
Speaker 1: you know, or rather with Mexico and Canada, there.
Speaker 5: Is no question that Canada and Mexico are doing more
Speaker 5: than they have ever done in the history of the
Speaker 5: relationships of these three countries than they are doing right
Speaker 5: now today. And recognize, you know, Canada put together legislation
Speaker 5: to spend millions of dollars on their border to help
Speaker 5: us to help identify the threats that are there. They
Speaker 5: now have a fent are, which they didn't have before
Speaker 5: January twentieth, twenty twenty five, ten thousand troops on the
Speaker 5: Mexican border. And you'll remember the rhetoric when Trump got elected,
Speaker 5: Claudia Scheinbaum the president in Mexico, all due respect, she
Speaker 5: was saying terrible things about how she wasn't going to work,
Speaker 5: she wasn't going to do the bidding of the United
Speaker 5: States or this president. She deployed ten thousand troops. No
Speaker 5: one has ever done that before her or since, and
Speaker 5: so that has led to a huge reduction in illegal
Speaker 5: activity across the Southwest border, including fentanyl precursors into their
Speaker 5: country and then fentanyl across our border.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Ron Vitello, US Customs and Border Protection
Speaker 1: senior advisor for this administration. Bron, let's talk about big
Speaker 1: beautiful wall, major promise from Trump in the first term.
Speaker 1: He has returned to this issue now in his second term.
Speaker 1: I know that one of the ways that Steven Miller
Speaker 1: and others are really trying to get people focused in
Speaker 1: on the need to pass this big beautiful bill is
Speaker 1: saying that there's ample fund for border patrol, including for
Speaker 1: wall barrier actually securing it. What can you tell us
Speaker 1: about that and the status of the wall right now?
Speaker 1: How long would it take if we had the funding
Speaker 1: to get a lot more of it in place.
Speaker 2: Let's do a little wall.
Speaker 5: Deep dive well to get the requirement that's identified by
Speaker 5: the border patrols, supported by the president. Right, he built
Speaker 5: a lot of wall in the first term Trump won,
Speaker 5: and we expect to build a lot more in Trump two.
Speaker 5: And so what we're doing now, with the help of
Speaker 5: the Department of Defense, we have ten thousand of our
Speaker 5: own troops on the southwest border helping the border patrol
Speaker 5: side by side. Part of what they're doing is giving
Speaker 5: agents better access to the border, fortifying the wall, and
Speaker 5: increasing the infrastructure that prevents people from entering at the border.
Speaker 5: About one hundred new miles of barrier placed either by
Speaker 5: DoD or buy the border patrol itself with the existing
Speaker 5: contracting and the funding left over from Trump ion. So
Speaker 5: Biden comes in puts a moratorium on all border construction,
Speaker 5: and so it froze the activity for a while. And
Speaker 5: now we're in the we have the ability for the
Speaker 5: next year or so to spend the little money that's
Speaker 5: left from Trump one on wall, and that's equated so
Speaker 5: far to about one hundred miles, and then there'll be
Speaker 5: new wall constructed using the funds from Trump one, and
Speaker 5: then we're hopeful that when the reconciliation passes, there will
Speaker 5: be a huge investment in infrastructure, including wall and tech
Speaker 5: that supports the wall and the agents on the ground
Speaker 5: access to the border, to give us about another one
Speaker 5: hundred about another seven hundred miles. Some of that will
Speaker 5: be dual barrier. We'll have some stuff in the river
Speaker 5: and on land in places like Texas where the river
Speaker 5: is actually the border, and in other places will fortify
Speaker 5: what exists and increase wall to about seven hundred new
Speaker 5: miles under Trump two.
Speaker 1: Is there are s and I know from just law
Speaker 1: enforcements sources down along the border, border patrol sources and
Speaker 1: the various collection platforms that we have. Is there a
Speaker 1: sense from the the narco terrorist cartels on the other
Speaker 1: side of the border that, oh, there's definitely a new
Speaker 1: sheriff in town.
Speaker 5: One percent? You know, there's pressure from the Mexican government,
Speaker 5: which is as effective as it can be given the circumstances.
Speaker 5: The military to military relationship is producing results, including US
Speaker 5: helping target known cartel members both sides of the border,
Speaker 5: and it's just really hard now to cross the border
Speaker 5: versus the way it was before January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 5: and so they are not being as successful. We're watching
Speaker 5: the reaction from the cartels. We had a really good
Speaker 5: intercept in Laredo yesterday of unmanned aerial systems small drones,
Speaker 5: if you will, one of those yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, so they're using drones to try to drop
Speaker 1: off product drugs.
Speaker 5: We believe this one was counter surveillance. Ah okay, but
Speaker 5: it remains to be seen. We're going to try to
Speaker 5: exploit that the media that's in there to figure out
Speaker 5: exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: But but so they're using drones to watch you guys
Speaker 1: or your guys at border patrol.
Speaker 5: Correct, correct, that's that's they're using them mostly for that,
Speaker 5: But there it's not unheard of for them to bring
Speaker 5: small packages, I mean fentanyl. You know, the profit margin
Speaker 5: on fentanyl is huge in Mexico, and so they use
Speaker 5: it for those things as well. But again, giving agents
Speaker 5: time and ability, this was something that wouldn't have happened
Speaker 5: seven months ago because they were too distracted with the
Speaker 5: massive humanity that was coming into the border every twenty
Speaker 5: four hours. Now we have the ability when those sensors
Speaker 5: go off and when we can deploy against those active threats.
Speaker 5: They did, in fact Caesar drone in Laredo yesterday, and
Speaker 5: that's what the cartel is capable of, and so we'll
Speaker 5: see more of that. You know, there was a seizure
Speaker 5: in San Diego of about seven thousand pounds of meth
Speaker 5: aanthetamine in California, which you know, we haven't seen a
Speaker 5: seizure in that size in probably over a year, and
Speaker 5: it was because the agents on the ground, the front line,
Speaker 5: has the time and ability to do the work, you know,
Speaker 5: using the shoe leather, using their brains, using the intelligence
Speaker 5: holdings that exist in the United States to track that
Speaker 5: seven thousand pounds. We probably would not have gotten that
Speaker 5: pre Trump because we're just too busy with the legal
Speaker 5: activity that was coming across the border. So yeah, the
Speaker 5: cartels have reacted. We're seeing increases on the coast near
Speaker 5: San Diego. We expect that to be the case in
Speaker 5: near Brownsville as well. The subterranean threat has now been
Speaker 5: magnified in the sense that the land border is much
Speaker 5: harder to cross, and so all the alternative routes of
Speaker 5: entry are going to start to be used and exploited,
Speaker 5: and so we need to be vigilant. That's why we
Speaker 5: need to backstop what the frontline can do with policy
Speaker 5: and rhetoric and consequences. With more resources, as in wall,
Speaker 5: as in infrastructure, as in boots on the ground, that
Speaker 5: all has to be fortified and sustained if we want
Speaker 5: to keep the promise of making America safe again.
Speaker 1: Wondering if you could just speak to the morale of
Speaker 1: the men and women of Border Patrol now and what
Speaker 1: it feels like to have the mission and resources squared
Speaker 1: away like they have been so far in this administration.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, the morale is very high. Lots of smiles
Speaker 5: on the faces of the men and women who now
Speaker 5: have the tools and the support that they require to
Speaker 5: be successful. Agents are recruited because they are interested in
Speaker 5: a career that it's mostly outdoors that mostly protects the country,
Speaker 5: that mostly is involved in activity designed to protect us all.
Speaker 5: And they weren't able to do that for the last
Speaker 5: for the for the last administration, for the entirety of
Speaker 5: Biden administration. They are back in business. The nonsense is over.
Speaker 5: They have support all the way to the Oval office.
Speaker 5: You have the Secretary Noome out there visiting face to
Speaker 5: face with the front line, asking them what they need,
Speaker 5: ensuring they have those tools, and watching them be successful.
Speaker 5: And it's not just the incumbent agents, but it's also
Speaker 5: recruitment is off the charts, doubled since before Trump, and
Speaker 5: so yeah, it's all going in that right direction as
Speaker 5: it relates to them being successful, which is why most
Speaker 5: of them are there. That's why they take the oath
Speaker 5: because they want to protect us all and now they
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to succeed as well.
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Speaker 1: I have a Supreme Court decision that I think is
Speaker 1: very interesting that I will break down for you.
Speaker 2: We just spoke to an advisor to a CBP.
Speaker 1: You know, Ice made the most immigrant arrests illegal immigrant
Speaker 1: arrests in a single day Tuesday of this week, twenty
Speaker 1: two hundred people in one day. They're ramping up. They
Speaker 1: are ramping up, and that is certainly good to see.
Speaker 1: On the bad side of things, a Colorado federal judge,
Speaker 1: a Biden appointee, of course, has issued an order blocking
Speaker 1: the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children
Speaker 1: of the terrorist in Boulder Mohammed Suliman. So there's a
Speaker 1: judge who thinks that he's president. It seems this is
Speaker 1: really bad stuff for the country. You have these judges
Speaker 1: who really believe that they or act like they believe
Speaker 1: that they call the shots for the executive branch. They
Speaker 1: have power over foreign policy, they have.
Speaker 2: Power over everything.
Speaker 1: They can just tell the president you can't do that,
Speaker 1: no constitutional anything for Nope, you just can't do that.
Speaker 2: I say, you can't do that. So you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Hundreds of lower court judges and any one of them
Speaker 1: can just bind the commander in chief's hands.
Speaker 2: On a whim.
Speaker 1: And also, as we see they keep a lot of
Speaker 1: them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually
Speaker 1: make their way up there. So they're overturned and also
Speaker 1: very partisan from the get go. But we're supposed to
Speaker 1: think that this is okay. Why should we think that this, Well,
Speaker 1: it's not, as you know, and we'll continue to follow
Speaker 1: this very closely. Now, something else that I think is
Speaker 1: worth a bit of our time, and it is how
Speaker 1: this this moment is when all of the people who
Speaker 1: were part of the Biden lie are running for cover,
Speaker 1: are scrambling away from what they did to the country
Speaker 1: and trying to cash in on it. As you know,
Speaker 1: I saw through the whole Tapper thing all along. This
Speaker 1: is somebody who was a nasty defender of all things
Speaker 1: Biden cognition during the Biden administration. He's a Democrat activist.
Speaker 1: He is a very noxious combination of psychotically thin skinned
Speaker 1: Tapper as well as wildly narcissistic and thinks that he
Speaker 1: can fool all of us into believing that he did
Speaker 1: the crime but should not do the time when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Biden cover up, that he is the
Speaker 1: guy who should be speaking truth to power. It didn't work.
Speaker 1: I think people have seen through this. Yeah, he's selling
Speaker 1: a lot of books, but he's sold whatever was left
Speaker 1: of his credibility along with it.
Speaker 2: And that's that's so.
Speaker 1: That's one case of this, right, one case of a
Speaker 1: Democrat propagandist running for the exits, or rather trying to
Speaker 1: not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next
Speaker 1: for the next go round with the next administration. And
Speaker 1: then you have this Correine Jean Pierre and I remember
Speaker 1: when she was the Biden Press secretary. You know, we
Speaker 1: would talk about some of the things that she said,
Speaker 1: but we really started to I think, lay off on
Speaker 1: this show because it felt like, you know, she just
Speaker 1: wasn't up for it. And it's different when you're the
Speaker 1: president versus being the press secretary. If the president's brain
Speaker 1: doesn't work, it's not mean.
Speaker 2: I have to say it.
Speaker 1: If the White House Press secretary is just not very
Speaker 1: bright and not very capable. I mean, I'm gonna say it,
Speaker 1: but you know, I really I don't. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this two things to our credit, but maybe in this
Speaker 1: big sometimes a bit of a hindrance. I'm not a
Speaker 1: mean guy, and plays not a mean guy. We don't
Speaker 1: like being mean to anybody.
Speaker 2: We choose to be as.
Speaker 1: Kind as we can be. I think, both of us,
Speaker 1: in our own ways. Kindness is different than niceness. I
Speaker 1: agree with that. Niceness is I don't want to be offensive,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know nice, eh, Kindness is no.
Speaker 1: I want to treat people. I want to treat people
Speaker 1: well and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and
Speaker 1: positive in my interactions with my fellow human beings. And
Speaker 1: so basically I'm saying like we felt almost felt bad
Speaker 1: for Kreean Jean Pierre because she was so in over
Speaker 1: her head and it was so obvious, and I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like beating up on her on the show was
Speaker 1: really Yeah, we had some fun with the suntimes, but
Speaker 1: it's very different like Weekend at Bernie's. Biden, he's the
Speaker 1: commander in chief. Unacceptable, He's a fraudster, he's a liar.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was disgusting. Cree Jean Pierre is somebody
Speaker 1: who look, she was a DEI hire in the sense
Speaker 1: that she clearly was not up for this job, but
Speaker 1: she was. She is a lesbian and she is black,
Speaker 1: and that was very exciting. Those characteristics were very exciting
Speaker 1: for Democrats to have in a White.
Speaker 2: House Press secretary.
Speaker 1: Now, the conservative view on these things and you see
Speaker 1: this with you know, you've got different people who could
Speaker 1: be or rather are I guess diversity technically within the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, whether it's women or you know, Richard Grenell
Speaker 1: is gay. I mean, there's these people that are that
Speaker 1: have worked for Trump at senior level, and it's just
Speaker 1: about are they good at the job. And there's not
Speaker 1: this obsession with the either immutable characteristics or the sexual
Speaker 1: orientation or anything like this about these individuals. We just
Speaker 1: pick people or you know, Trump picks people that he
Speaker 1: thinks will be really good, and he puts a He's
Speaker 1: put a lot of women, as you've noticed, for example,
Speaker 1: in senior positions, and these are some tough ladies, and
Speaker 1: they're they're showing their competency day in and day out,
Speaker 1: I mean, ever on somebody like a caree. Caroline Levitt
Speaker 1: is doing a phenomenal job as White House Press Secretary.
Speaker 1: But Karine Jean Pierre just she didn't have it. She
Speaker 1: wasn't very good at this. She was not up to
Speaker 1: the task. And I actually think that it was clear
Speaker 1: to a lot of people that that was the case,
Speaker 1: and so she did not get very much heat from
Speaker 1: the media. Yes, because she was Home Team, I understand.
Speaker 1: And yes, she's a black lesbian and therefore is in
Speaker 1: the world of identity politics double protected. As the left
Speaker 1: views this right, if you're a conservative, if you're on
Speaker 1: the right, you just view people as people and you
Speaker 1: treat them as people and you expect, you know, you
Speaker 1: hold everyone to the same framework of are you good
Speaker 1: at this, are you bad at this? Are you doing
Speaker 1: your job or you're not doing your job. That's that
Speaker 1: is the right conservative point of view. The liberal point
Speaker 1: of view is, well, we're gonna pick people for different things,
Speaker 1: and this goes to a Supreme Court case.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talking about a second here, but the.
Speaker 1: Left wing point of view, the democrat point of view,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick people and we're gonna tell you they're
Speaker 1: just as good as anybody else, and they're not picked
Speaker 1: for these reasons, but we're also going to praise them
Speaker 1: for being these different things. So there's a cognitive dissonance here,
Speaker 1: right Like this has always been the problem with the
Speaker 1: firmative action, always been the problem with the EI. You
Speaker 1: can't say we need to give an advantage to people
Speaker 1: because of skin color, sexual orientation, whatever. But you can't
Speaker 1: think that we're giving anybody an advantage because of those things.
Speaker 1: This is the fundamental and the fundamental disconnect. This is
Speaker 1: the cognitive dissonance. And then they do this thing of oh,
Speaker 1: but it's just a little bit, it's just a little
Speaker 1: bit of a help, because when you start to corner
Speaker 1: them on these issues, you find out that this doesn't
Speaker 1: it can't hold up, This doesn't make sense. You can't
Speaker 1: ask somebody, you can't say I'm picking this person because
Speaker 1: of a And then you're not allowed to say I'm
Speaker 1: picking this person because of a you can't. You can't
Speaker 1: do that. That does not compute. You're asking us to
Speaker 1: believe it up is down, and or you're rather demanding
Speaker 1: that we believe it up is down. So that's what
Speaker 1: we saw with greenhow Perre here and now she is
Speaker 1: putting out a book called Independent.
Speaker 2: Here she is announcing it.
Speaker 1: So she's leaving the Democrat Party. She's not just talking
Speaker 1: about the Biden administrate.
Speaker 2: She's leaving the Democrat Party. This is cut too.
Speaker 1: This is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.
Speaker 6: I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and
Speaker 6: think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.
Speaker 6: And the way that I see moving forward in this
Speaker 6: space that we're in right now is if you are
Speaker 6: willing to stand side by side with me, regardless of
Speaker 6: your political how you identify politically, and as long as
Speaker 6: you respect the community that I belong to and vulnerable
Speaker 6: communities that I respect, I.
Speaker 1: Will be with you.
Speaker 6: I will be I will move forward with you. And
Speaker 6: that is I think so important.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm. What happened to the Democrat Party?
Speaker 2: Why is she leaving the Democrat Party?
Speaker 1: She was the chief spokeswoman for the Biden regime, and
Speaker 1: now she's an independent. Now she's talking about how she's
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It makes no sense. Uh. But
Speaker 1: what's interesting to me now is this is completely predictable.
Speaker 1: Now there are Democrats sources that are trashing her all
Speaker 1: over the place. Oh, she wasn't up for it. She
Speaker 1: wouldn't let Kirby. Remember Kirby, you know, the white guy
Speaker 1: from the Pentagon. Uh, you know, he was gonna do
Speaker 1: briefings on national security. But she wouldn't let him because
Speaker 1: he's so much smarter than she is and it made
Speaker 1: her insecure, so he wasn't allowed to it. And now
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about this. I'm sorry when you propagate the
Speaker 1: lie because it is worth it for you to do
Speaker 1: so you don't get to turn around and pretend you're
Speaker 1: a hero when it doesn't matter anymore. And this is
Speaker 1: really the whole situation of what's going on now with
Speaker 1: some of these going with whether it's Tapper, Green, John Pierre,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be others too. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to tell you that they've had
Speaker 1: this big change of heart. They see what's going on.
Speaker 1: Why won't they say, why won't they reach out to
Speaker 1: people like me, for example, and say you were right?
Speaker 1: I don't just mean me, but you know people on
Speaker 1: the right in general. Why don't they just say they
Speaker 1: were right? And I should really think about why they
Speaker 1: were right? And I should think about why I lied publicly,
Speaker 1: speaking from the Democrat perspective, why they lied about things
Speaker 1: when they just had to know everything they were saying
Speaker 1: was nonsense. And what does that say about their character?
Speaker 1: What does that say about their their integrity? I mean,
Speaker 1: it means they have no integrity, and they have no
Speaker 1: integrity at all. Here you go, who cares? Congressional Dems
Speaker 1: say good riddance to Karine Jean Pierre. This is from Axios.
Speaker 1: Democrat lawmakers say, who cares?
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed
Speaker 1: as her answers in the White House press briefing. Democrats
Speaker 1: are trashing her now and basically saying she's an idiot.
Speaker 2: That's what they're saying. She never was up for it,
Speaker 2: never could do it.
Speaker 1: So they put a black lesbian in this role.
Speaker 2: Tell Us it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Tell Us they didn't do it though, because she's a
Speaker 1: black lesbian. They say they just did it because she's
Speaker 1: so good at the job. And we say, but she's
Speaker 1: not good at the job, and they say, how dare
Speaker 1: you she's good at the job. And now that the
Speaker 1: whole thing has fallen apart, the administration's done, they lost.
Speaker 1: It's Oh no, she was an idiot all along, and
Speaker 1: the only reason she had the job was because she's
Speaker 1: a black lesbian. And Democrats are obsessed with the EI.
Speaker 1: That is what democrats are saying now. So everything that
Speaker 1: we tell you on this show about what's going on,
Speaker 1: you'll notice true. The things that we say, we just
Speaker 1: keep getting more affirmation of. And we said it all along.
Speaker 1: The other side has to keep trying to find ways
Speaker 1: to explain to their audience, to their voters why they
Speaker 1: lie and why they're wrong about everything. You could say
Speaker 1: this is a trend, you could say this is an
Speaker 1: indicator of something. And now I'm gonna come back and
Speaker 1: speak about the Supreme Court decision that just came down.
Speaker 1: It turns out you can't discriminate. You can't say I'm
Speaker 1: firing you and hiring a lesbian because she's a lesbian.
Speaker 1: This is a real case. This just happened that this
Speaker 1: is wrong. Of course it's wrong. It's always been wrong.
Speaker 1: But it was also always wrong to hire somebody because
Speaker 1: they were a black lesbian or a lesbian or an
Speaker 1: eskimo or whatever. It's always been wrong to do that.
Speaker 1: It was never okay to do this thing that was
Speaker 1: done for a long time. And now the courts agree
Speaker 1: with me. Now you know, if any of you out
Speaker 1: there are fired, so they can hire a minority or
Speaker 1: a trans individual or whatever.
Speaker 2: You can sue because it's wrong. Let's talk about this.
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Trump and Elon there's a bit
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Speaker 1: it static. I think they'll smooth this thing over. But look,
Speaker 1: Elon's not working in the administration anymore, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. Him going back to well, it matters, but
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. Him going back to running Tesla,
Speaker 1: which is a company that I very much believe in,
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Speaker 1: here to see Trump and Elon having a bit of
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Speaker 1: Trump is now saying that Elon, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: make sure I get this right. Elon has Trump derangement syndrome.
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Speaker 2: Play it.
Speaker 3: Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know
Speaker 3: what will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
Speaker 3: Everybody in this room practically was here. As we had
Speaker 3: a wonderful send off, he said, wonderful thing about me.
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Speaker 1: Trump was right.
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Speaker 3: We call it a great big beautiful bill because that's
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Speaker 3: biggest economic development moves anywhere, We've never done anything like it.
Speaker 1: Saying they may not have a great relationship going for well, look,
Speaker 1: one thing about Trump you have to remember, and you
Speaker 1: know this, and I know this, is that you know
Speaker 1: he's not an opponent you want to have.
Speaker 2: It's not going to go well for you.
Speaker 1: But he also always keeps the keeps the tent flap
Speaker 1: open for you to come back and you know, be
Speaker 1: back on the team. He has a real he has
Speaker 1: really a remarkable willingness to bring people back into the
Speaker 1: fold who want to want to be part of the
Speaker 1: agenda and want to move the country in this in
Speaker 1: the same direction a lot of Look, I want a
Speaker 1: great example of this.
Speaker 2: It's Mark Rubio. I mean Marco Rubio and Trump.
Speaker 1: Went at each other in that primary in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: You remember, you know, talking about like little hands and stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know, Marco decided he was gonna play a
Speaker 1: little rough with Trump, and Trump could play a lot rougher.
Speaker 1: And we all remember what happened. We all remember what happened.
Speaker 1: And now Mark Rubio is Trump's a plus Secretary of State.
Speaker 1: Total confidence in going both ways there, and he's doing
Speaker 1: great stuff for the administration, and you know, Mark Rubio
Speaker 1: is just getting it done, and Trump knows it, and
Speaker 1: he's and he is dialed in, he is locked in,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of
Speaker 1: gets the most Improved, most Improved award on the Republican
Speaker 1: side of things. And he's doing great stuff and the
Speaker 1: Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.
Speaker 1: We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to him about it. But yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: exactly exactly the case that Trump will always allow people
Speaker 1: to come back in after there's been a public split,
Speaker 1: unless they like play really dirty and try to imprison
Speaker 1: his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.
Speaker 1: But I bring this up because this is what Elon
Speaker 1: put out on X.
Speaker 2: Elon has the richest guy on the planet.
Speaker 1: I don't know, are there two guys with bigger and
Speaker 1: both very deserved but bigger egos on Earth. I don't
Speaker 1: know it would be. I mean, there's delusionally, Cuth Oberman.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's people who have huge egos who are
Speaker 1: total losers for people who are actually winners with big egos.
Speaker 1: Trumpet Elon are high up on the list, right, And
Speaker 1: Elon put this out there on X just in the
Speaker 1: last about an hour.
Speaker 2: Hour and change ago. Without me, this is Elon.
Speaker 1: Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would
Speaker 1: control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
Speaker 1: forty nine in the Senate. And then he added such ingratitude. Okay,
Speaker 1: just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here, just
Speaker 1: saying that there's a little bit of a thing, a
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit of a.
Speaker 2: Speedbump.
Speaker 1: I think it's all gonna be fine. Elon's upset about
Speaker 1: this bill. He's a true believer in cutting the government spending.
Speaker 1: And I understand what his case is with this. The
Speaker 1: problem as I've laid out the problems, but for one,
Speaker 1: it's if you tried to do what Elon wants them
Speaker 1: to do, you would not have passage of it in Congress.
Speaker 1: So what's the what's the way forward?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand what the way forward is
Speaker 1: because you have to get Democrats to go on If
Speaker 1: you have to get Democrats to go on board, now
Speaker 1: now you got nothing.
Speaker 2: Now you're just letting the Democrats call the shots.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So unless you want to knop the filibuster
Speaker 1: on this issue in this moment, and remember, the Democrats
Speaker 1: will be very happy to go completely insane the moment
Speaker 1: they have fifty one seats in the Senate if the
Speaker 1: filibuster is gone, and they may still do that in
Speaker 1: the future. And maybe that's the argument that should be
Speaker 1: made right now, but that's not the argument that's being made.
Speaker 1: But it's you have the bromance of Trump and Elon
Speaker 1: right now. They want a little space. They want a
Speaker 1: little space. Trump is out on the golf course, Elon's
Speaker 1: going for a walk on the beach. Some sad music
Speaker 1: playing in the background. I think they're both probably having
Speaker 1: some moments where they think back to, you know, hand
Speaker 1: in hand walking down the White House lawn and talking
Speaker 1: about how great Tesla is and the happy music going.
Speaker 2: We're in a different part of the.
Speaker 1: Story right now. It's a little sad, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. I'm sure that they will make amends. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is some big thing.
Speaker 1: Elon is red pilled, Elon knows that Maga is.
Speaker 2: It's it's just.
Speaker 1: A question of whether we want to have a sane
Speaker 1: country in a sane government. Democrats are complete lunatics, total lunatics. Honestly,
Speaker 1: they're Yeah, there are smart, nice Democrats. I'm friends with
Speaker 1: plenty of Democrats. That's not what I'm saying. The Democrat Party, though,
Speaker 1: is now run by an ideology that is just deranged.
Speaker 1: We see this, whether we're talking about the trans athlete
Speaker 1: stuff that they're still sticking to, or don't even really
Speaker 1: know what the Democrats stand for right now because they're
Speaker 1: still trying to regain some footing after supporting a dementia
Speaker 1: patient for four years that obviously had dementia and they
Speaker 1: pretend like he didn't. And now we all have to
Speaker 1: sit around saying, well, you knew the whole time. How
Speaker 1: can you lecture us on anything? How can Democrats lecture
Speaker 1: us on anything when it comes to government or decision
Speaker 1: making whatever, When they had Joe Biden as president for
Speaker 1: four years and we all knew and they knew, what
Speaker 1: grounds do they have to stand on here?
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to I wanted to note that
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a.
Speaker 1: Little bit of friction right now in MAGA world with
Speaker 1: Trump and Elon and I just I'll say this too,
Speaker 1: two alpha dogs like that. This was if I didn't
Speaker 1: say it on this show, it's because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to rain on the election parade of how great everything
Speaker 1: was going.
Speaker 2: But we've all known that.
Speaker 1: Eventually this is this was gonna there was gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a And when I say a
Speaker 1: little bit of a break, I don't mean that they're
Speaker 1: gonna hate each other and Elon's gonna go left wing
Speaker 1: and Trump's gonna have to throw big haymakers at him
Speaker 1: publicly for a long time. But there was a there
Speaker 1: was a time limit to how long I think these
Speaker 1: two guys could really closely collaborate before it was gonna
Speaker 1: be best for all that Trump goes back to being
Speaker 1: president and Elon goes back to running his companies.
Speaker 2: And that is where we are.
Speaker 1: So it's not a big deal. But you know, the
Speaker 1: bromance movie here is. Like I said, this is a
Speaker 1: little bit of different space. I'm sure give it a
Speaker 1: few months, Elon will be at mar A Lago. They'll
Speaker 1: be laughing it up and having dinner and everything else.
Speaker 1: But Elon's are very intense. I don't know him, but
Speaker 1: just I haven't met him, actually, which is kind of
Speaker 1: a shame. I'd like to meet him at some point.
Speaker 1: Elon's are very intense, obviously, and believes very much in
Speaker 1: the mission that he was taking on a doge. And
Speaker 1: when you have that level of intensity, you can become
Speaker 1: a little I don't know, monomaniacal is the right word.
Speaker 1: You cant a little two laser focus on that one thing.
Speaker 1: Trump has got to focus on a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and he does have to deal with what is possible
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: And this is a difference.
Speaker 1: Right, Elon is used to being You can be much
Speaker 1: closer to a truly, you can be much closer to
Speaker 1: a dictator.
Speaker 2: In your day to day affairs, day to day affairs.
Speaker 1: As the CEO and primary shareholder of a company, you
Speaker 1: can be much closer to a dictator than you can
Speaker 1: as president, with a Congress and a Supreme Court and
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty million people who all have opinions.
Speaker 2: Right, It's it's different. It's different. Now.
Speaker 1: I know Trump has been CEO of companies too, so
Speaker 1: he understands that. But Elon's never been president. And there's
Speaker 1: some some nuances here that are in the skill set.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering what you think about this one. If
Speaker 1: you I am not surprised by this at all. I
Speaker 1: will just say I'm not surprised by this at all.
Speaker 1: I was also not surprised at all at the Elon
Speaker 1: Ramaswami split that occurred right away. I won't get into
Speaker 1: that now. Maybe we'll talk about another time. But I
Speaker 1: knew that Elon was like, that was not gonna work.
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying that that was and everyone who
Speaker 1: knows me and uh, that was my feelings on that
Speaker 1: where they know that I that wasn't going to be.
Speaker 1: I was on vacation when uh, and overseas, so I
Speaker 1: really wasn't online or or getting involved in it. But
Speaker 1: that whole h one B visa situation with with Elon
Speaker 1: and Ramaswami and and Trump and MAGA and yeah, so anyway,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to our agenda here, what's
Speaker 1: going on with h with the country and and all
Speaker 1: the good things that are happening. But I had to
Speaker 1: take note of a little bit of a disturbance in
Speaker 1: the force, if you will, with the Trump and it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be fine, though, I'm telling you those
Speaker 1: guys It's one of Trump's nicest qualities really just as
Speaker 1: a person, is that he's willing to he's willing to
Speaker 1: let people see the error of their ways and come
Speaker 1: back and bring them back into the fold. And it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's a really nice it's a really lovely quality to have.
Speaker 1: I will say many people don't have that at all.
Speaker 1: Many people hold grudges, and grudges are kind of grudges
Speaker 1: are not generally good. Grudges I think usually are toxic
Speaker 1: or you know, usually have a toxicity to them. I
Speaker 1: didn't get to get into the details of this Supreme
Speaker 1: Court decision, but essentially the notion of reverse discrimination has
Speaker 1: been flipped on its head here. The Supreme Court had
Speaker 1: to the basics of this are a woman was working
Speaker 1: for a hold on it's like a juvenile detention facility
Speaker 1: or something. She was an administrator. She applied for a
Speaker 1: more senior job. They didn't give her that job, and
Speaker 1: then they demoted her and she lost out to somebody
Speaker 1: who was lesbian, and that she was replaced by somebody
Speaker 1: who was gay, and she felt like there was some
Speaker 1: dei stuff going on here, and she sued and the
Speaker 1: lower courts, the District Court in the Circuit Court. This
Speaker 1: is aimes Ames via Ohio Department of Youth Services. And
Speaker 1: what the lower courts found was, well, you're a heterosexual female,
Speaker 1: so it's not really possible for you to be this
Speaker 1: was Yeah, like I said, this was in Ohio. It's
Speaker 1: not really possible for you to be discriminated against. And
Speaker 1: they said that she failed to clear the bar applied
Speaker 1: to members of a majority group in order to be
Speaker 1: considered discriminated against under Title seven of the Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 1: So there's a higher burden if you're straight than if
Speaker 1: you're LGBTQ IA plus because you're still supposed to be protected.
Speaker 1: These are protected characteristics.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You can't discriminate on the basis of sex, can't discriminate
Speaker 1: on the basis of skin color, ethnicity.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the law.
Speaker 1: But they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination
Speaker 1: if you're white, or it's harder to prove discrimination if
Speaker 1: you're straight. And by a unanimous decision written by written
Speaker 1: by Justice Jackson Catangie Brown Jackson that the standard is
Speaker 1: the standard, and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody,
Speaker 1: or you demote somebody or whatever, and it's provable that
Speaker 1: you did it. So you could hire someone who's gay,
Speaker 1: or you could hire somebody who's you know, an Eskimo
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's wrong. No more reverse discrimination. It's just discrimination.
Speaker 1: We're either protected and you can't hurt anyone based upon
Speaker 1: things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical
Speaker 1: and what the law should be, or we got a problem.
Speaker 1: The Left hates this, of course, because this is a
Speaker 1: huge challenge to the DEI regime. This is a huge
Speaker 1: challenge to the racial spoils system and the gender identity
Speaker 1: spoils system that they set up. Spreme Court n I
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