1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: To match their energy with organizing. I spent the week 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: in consuming but not contributing to the conversation, not just 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: about Charlie Kirk, but to the extent that Charlie Kirk 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: was an instrument of that conversation, that Charlie Kirk took 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: on traits that people wanted to extol, that the left 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: used him as a boogeyman. I posted a comment that 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: went surprisingly viral because it seems so simple, but maybe 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: that's why, and I said, Charlie Kirk was killed. Charlie 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Kirk was not killed for speaking to your children. He 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: was killed because your children listen. It's important to understand, 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: and I have wondered over this for many years, myself 14 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: included when you look at the Venn diagram of the 15 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: various bubbles of ages of population, the age that our 16 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: movement has struggled to attract is young people. And that's 17 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: important because young people, first of all, have more time 18 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: on their hands. They're typically going to one hour of 19 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: college a day if that, and then they got a 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: lot of time to go to rallies and go knock 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: on doors and be online. Young people dominate the online space, 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: and more of them, They're an army of it. Young 23 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: people are more aggressive. 24 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: They have not learned. 25 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: You know the story about the two bulls and the 26 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: young bull wants to run down there, and the big 27 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: bulls says no, no, no, Well you need a lot of 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: young bulls. And what Charlie did, and I think that's 29 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: why he was identified early for his influence and value 30 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: to improving the country was that this was the young 31 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: people whisperer. 32 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: This was the guy. He had the it factor. 33 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: He was the one that could, more than anybody else, 34 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: could speak directly to young people. I think I told 35 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: you on Wednesday when it happened. It was shortly after 36 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: noon Houston time, early afternoon, and I heard about it 37 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: and I was processing what does this mean? And I 38 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: always immediately think, well, first figure it out for yourself 39 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: before you can go offering any opinions to anyone else. 40 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: And as I was processing it for myself, I got 41 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: a message from each of my sons. They're not particularly 42 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: political at all. We talk about policy, we talk about 43 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: culture and religion. 44 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: We talk about how. 45 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: To behave with a woman and how to make good 46 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: decisions for yourself, what to do when temptation rears its head, 47 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: and how to deal with that, what to do if 48 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: someone else is in trouble, all those sorts of things. 49 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: But I don't cram down my views on them. I 50 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: teach them by example and I share my thoughts. But 51 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: that's I encourage them to think for themselves, ask questions, 52 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: argue with me, disagree with me, be comfortable in doing so. 53 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: When they were younger, they would say, well, you know 54 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: everything we don't know. 55 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: You read all. That's okay. 56 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: If you feel it, say it, and I will explain 57 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: to you how I came to the conclusion that's one 58 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: percent diametrically opposed to that. Well, I spend a lot 59 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: of time this weekend, as I said, consuming, not contributing, 60 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: thinking through, pondering, trying to develop some perspective. 61 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: What does this mean? Where do we go from here? 62 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: I find it to be incredibly indulgent to simply wail, 63 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: to emote for long periods of time. I find it 64 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: to be incredibly indulgent to be angry. 65 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people tell me how angry they are. 66 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: They're so angry, Okay, but. 67 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: That's not an action. 68 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: And I thought to myself, what would Rush do? 69 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: What would Rush? 70 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: Rush would always, at a moment like this have wisdom, 71 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: and many people will have called Charlie Kirk the. 72 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Rush Limbau for gen Z. 73 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: And rush l Rushbo once told the story of meeting 74 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk for the first time. This is when the 75 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: great worlds collide, and I thought, you know what, I 76 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: got to share that with you. 77 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet 78 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: me about a month ago. He was in town to 79 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: set up this turning point thing and they brought him 80 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: to the golf course to meet me. It was during 81 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start, 82 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: and they brought him out while I was getting ready 83 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke 84 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: with him for about a half hour, and he told 85 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: me how he grew up in a home where my 86 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: program was on all the time. He was effusively complimentary 87 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: to me, which I of course understood and told. 88 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: Him he's very wise. 89 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: His family is very wise. 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: He chuckle. 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 4: They laughed. 92 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: This is the kind of. 93 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: Guy that you can see really becoming big in politics 94 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: as he gets older. He just has the kind that 95 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: carries the person out of the charisma. 96 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: You may think this sounds. 97 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: Weird, but I remember when Bill Clinton became president. There 98 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: were all of these stories about Bill Clinton at Oxford 99 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: and Bill Clinton at Yale, and Bill Clinton here and. 100 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: All these people who went to school with him. 101 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: There were a story after story after story where people 102 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: were saying that they just knew Bill Clinton was going 103 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: to be president someday in college. He just had that 104 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: kind of ambition and he impressed people. And I'm telling 105 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: you that people saying the same things about Charlie Huron. 106 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: Four out of five teachers surveyed said listening to. 107 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: The Michael Barry Show podcast improved their love life. The 108 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 4: fifth person didn't deserve one. Anyway. 109 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: If you don't follow me on Facebook, to a free too. 110 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: It's the site where I post the most. I am 111 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: on Twitter because I can engage with other people who 112 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: do what I do, and I can engage with a 113 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: lot of writers and influencers and talk hosts and politicians, 114 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: and it's the easiest, most direct way to communicate with people. 115 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: But I find I get a more raw, authentic interaction 116 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: on Facebook because that is not made up of influencers. 117 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: It's made up of real people. It's skews older than 118 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: my Twitter audience. It's people who are a lot less 119 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: tech savvy, people who don't live on their phone, people 120 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: who still look forward to their grandkids coming to visit Thanksgiving. 121 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: And I asked the question. I get a lot of 122 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: good show input from there, and I always encourage people. Look, 123 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: you can post on Facebook, but if you email me, 124 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: we have a system setup where I read it and 125 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: respond to a lot of them. Emily prints it out. 126 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: So I've got that for the show and it makes 127 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: for great show content. And so I asked the question 128 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: about I asked the question about if you went to 129 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: church this weekend where there are more people than usual, 130 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: and did your pastor speak on what happened. I feel 131 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: certain that Christians, especially white Christians, are under attack. I 132 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: think men are under attack, and the left ridicules these 133 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: sorts of assertions to make us afraid to say them. 134 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: But I am not afraid. Those children were praying in 135 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: Minneapolis when they were slaughtered, and the governor, who happened 136 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: to be Jewish, not Christian, showed up and said stop 137 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: saying pray for them. They were praying when I were killed, 138 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: praying doesn't work. What did they close? What did they 139 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: close during COVID He made sure to close the church. Well, 140 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to play a longer than usual clip because 141 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: it's really good and I'm going to amplify it. Pastor 142 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: Tom Murray of the People's Church in Salem, Oregon said, 143 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: the wicked watches for the righteous and seeks to put 144 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: him to death. 145 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: In Salem, Oregon, they're preaching this reach on. Tom Murray 146 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: preach on brother. 147 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 5: In one of those little spots of cell phone coverage, 148 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: one of our staff pastors, who was riding with me 149 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 5: in my car, got a text message that Charlie Kirk 150 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: had been shot. And that's all we knew because then 151 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 5: we went back into cell phone, no cell phone area. 152 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: What's happened? Some of you started to get those news 153 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 5: note if it someone told you to flip on the 154 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: TV to watch what was happening, and just absolute stun 155 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: and shock. We pulled into the parking lot to come 156 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 5: back from that direction. We came through State and we 157 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: planned to stop and State and check on what was 158 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: happening with the renovations there. And as we're stopped there 159 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 5: is when we got the word that Charlie Kirk had died, 160 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: and this is one of those moments that a lot 161 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: of us will remember for the rest of our life, 162 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: will remember where we were when we got this news 163 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: that a voice for the Christian faith and a voice 164 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 5: for conservative values had been assassinated. 165 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: We've heard words. 166 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: Associated with our country that we're not used to hearing 167 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 5: associated with our country, words like assassination and martyr. A 168 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 5: martyr is a person who is killed because of their 169 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: religious or other beliefs. Psalm thirty seven, verse thirty two 170 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 5: says this the wicked watches for the righteous and seeks 171 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 5: to put him to death. 172 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: It both stuns us, but those of us who know. 173 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 5: Our word are also not surprised that there are people 174 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: who will stand up for their faith and will experience 175 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 5: the worst that the enemy can throw. And here we 176 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 5: are today, a young husband and father killed because he 177 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: consistently and boldly spoke about his convictions surrounding faith and politics. 178 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: So I believe what we can do today to honor 179 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 5: this voice is by hearing from Charlie Kirk himself. And I 180 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 5: want you to listen to a couple of these clips. 181 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: How do you want to be remembered? We die, everything 182 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: just goes away. 183 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 5: How would you if you could be associated with one thing, 184 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 5: how would you want to be remembered. 185 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 6: I want to be remembered for for courage from my faith. 186 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: That would be the most important, most important thing is 187 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 188 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 6: If you know this, but everyone to us, it's important 189 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 6: to remind yourself of that that you face God of 190 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 6: the judge, and he's gonna lit us everything you did wrong. 191 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: In your life. 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 6: It's gonna get a long sentence in hearing from me 193 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 6: when you get justice, which is hell, because that's what 194 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 6: you deserve, mercy, which is less of that which all 195 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: A lot of theologians figure. 196 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: Out what that is. Or grace? What is grace? 197 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: Grace is something so unique, so different, so profound, which 198 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 6: is as soon as the sentence is about to be 199 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 6: aftered in, someone comes in and says, no, I will 200 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 6: serve that prison sentence for him. I will go into 201 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 6: the prison cell for him or her so that they 202 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 6: can live forever. 203 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: That's grace. 204 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: You didn't earn it. 205 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 6: You didn't check boxes for it, you didn't go park 206 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 6: cards for a ministry. 207 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 4: And I get if you have stra points. 208 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 6: To go to heaven, But none of that is true, 209 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 6: is that it's equally accepted for all people that allow 210 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 6: Jesus Christ to be your savior, the savior the world 211 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 6: to be born and new and to be completely and 212 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 6: totally renewed. That's a gift that we must try to 213 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 6: give all people in the world. I then y'all done 214 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 6: that arguing back to the church. That's legit, that's happening 215 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: because honestly, it's the only thing that they can find. 216 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 6: It's a life raft in this just tsunami of chaos 217 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 6: and disorder. So that's a really positive trend in the 218 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 6: minist of all this. So that's my great hope is 219 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 6: this spiritual hope that the young men that are lost, 220 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 6: and if any young man has listening to this right now, 221 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: like stop stop watching, stop you know, smoking weed, stop 222 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: drinking endlessly, find yourself back to the church. 223 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: That will reorient your life and do what the Church 224 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: tells you to do. 225 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 4: Right. 226 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 6: Find a woman, marry her, provide have more kids than 227 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 6: you can afford. 228 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: That's my advice for young men. Don't play the. 229 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 6: Victim, even though you legitimately can play the victim card 230 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: on everything we've said, the mindset of a victim is parasitic. 231 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: To your soul. 232 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: It's possible that maybe you've been in a on the outside. 233 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: Maybe you before this week you'd heard the name Charlie Kirk, 234 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: and I've seen a video clip or two, but maybe 235 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 5: you're surprised at just how massive the reaction has been, 236 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: and it's left you wondering why. There are influencers, and 237 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 5: there are politicians, and there are educators who are advancing 238 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: gender confusion, broaden access to end life in the room 239 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: as is convenient. Anything goes no absolute right and wrong, 240 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 5: and people who would have us believe that all young 241 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: adults are bought into this woke ideology. 242 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 243 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 5: Young adults are deciding that all those voices don't speak 244 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: for me. And what they have found is that through 245 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk and others, young people are connecting with the 246 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 5: belief that society is better when families are stronger, life 247 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: in the womb is worth protecting, hard work is good, 248 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: sin is destructive, and we need men to rise up 249 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: to responsibility. 250 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: This is the Michael Berry show, Locked and loaded, can't loaded. 251 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: It. 252 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite states in the Union. 253 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: And this always surprises people when I say this is Oregon, 254 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: our first affiliate after our home based flagship of Houston 255 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: Ktright seven hundred years old. The place that gave me 256 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: my start still our flagship to this day. 257 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: A heritage station. 258 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: I used to say it launched Dan rather, but now 259 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed to say that. Walter Cronkite worked there. A 260 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: number of big names came through there. It's great station, 261 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: but the hardest thing is to get station number two. 262 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: Getting stationed number fifty easy because Kurt Kretschmer with premiers 263 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: out there talking to stations, and if you have a 264 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: station one hour show, you send me an email and 265 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: I'll send you to Kurt. But most of it, you know, 266 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: for years I had to go get stations myself and 267 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: were up against Premiere. Well, since October seventh of this 268 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: last year, life got a lot easier in that way 269 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: because Kirk Kretschmer has all the relationships with all the stations, 270 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: and he'll email and say, hey, we're going on in 271 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: And I get to get. 272 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Out my map. 273 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: I love maps, and go look and go, oh, where's Prescott, Arizona. 274 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's where my buddy Gary Sumner's from. Oh that's 275 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: over here, and you okay, that's near this, and where 276 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: is this town in Michigan? And where is this town 277 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: in Idaho? And where is this town in Minnesota that 278 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: I've never been to? And I really really enjoy that. 279 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you want to air our 280 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: show in your market, you can email me Michael Berryshow 281 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: dot com and I will personally do anything I can 282 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: for your station to help you succeed because we're in 283 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: this together. But I would also put Kirk Kreshmer on this, 284 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: and he is he is the guru who will be 285 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: between him and Ramon. We'll get it all set up 286 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: and we'll be on the air where you are. And 287 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: that was for years how we added and got to 288 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: over thirty stations, just bootstrapping our little show. But our 289 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 2: first affiliate, we had two affiliates come on Baton Rouge 290 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: WJBO and Portland k EX eleven ninety And so we 291 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: would go up for the summers and stay there, me, 292 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: my wife and our kids and it was the best 293 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: family bonding time. And I didn't know at the time 294 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: that Oregon's not based in Portland, it's downstate a little bit. 295 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: And sure Oregon has been infected, just as Arizona, Colorado 296 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: and Seattle have by the crazy Californians. But I got 297 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: to tell you, the people of Oregon are a robust, 298 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: hearty people. They're farmers, their loggers, They're great people, and 299 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: I grew to love them, and my kids did too. 300 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Kids considered almost a second home from the years we 301 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: would spend there. However, the politics of the majority Party, 302 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 2: because Montnomah County ends up being so much of the vote, 303 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: that the good people of Oregon outside of that have 304 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: been sort of displaced. A lot of them moved to Washington, 305 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: some of them moved to Idaho. 306 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: A lot of them moved to. 307 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: Montana and Wyoming where they don't have to be around lefties. 308 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: Do you ever notice how much the people that hate 309 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: us so much desperately, desperately need to chase us down 310 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: and live next to us. How many Muslims from the 311 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: Middle East have come to this country to tell us 312 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: how awful this country is. Well, we don't go to 313 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: your country to live there. How many Pakistanis have come 314 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: here to tell us how awful this country is, Well, 315 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: we don't move to your country. How many people have 316 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: come here from what Trump called the craphole countries of 317 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: Latin America to tell us how everything here is wrong 318 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: because we don't give them one hundred dollars, We only 319 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: give them ninety five. 320 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: You ever notice that? 321 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: And I got news for you. Wherever we move, they 322 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: hate us so much that they're coming with us because 323 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: they've not created the great nation states, they've not made 324 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: the great scientific advancements, they have not created self governance 325 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: and security. And frankly, leave us alone and it'll be 326 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: a crime rate lower than anywhere else in the world. 327 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: We'll rival Singapore. But back to Oregon, our own beloved 328 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: Chad Knackanishi went to the University of Oregon and Michael 329 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: t The first school he got into, my oldest son 330 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 2: was Oregon. He was determined he was going to go there. 331 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: He ended up going to University of Texas. And our 332 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: main reason to try to talk him out of it 333 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: was we'll never get to see you. It's so far away, 334 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: just in the summer, and you're gonna come home for 335 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: the summers anyway. But all that to say, in Landing 336 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: the coach of Oregon, I. 337 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Really like what he did here. 338 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: He stood at at the game Saturday after the game, 339 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: at the podium, and he didn't try to ignore the 340 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: assassination of Charlie Kirk. 341 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: He showed real leadership. 342 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: And hats off to you, Dan Lanning coach and the 343 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: University of Oregon. Come on my show anytime. Brother, listen 344 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: to this. 345 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: There's been a lot going on in the country last week. 346 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: Have you addressed that with your team? Have kind of 347 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: you handled that? 348 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 349 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 7: Talk about you know, I think the US could learn 350 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 7: a lot from our locker room. 351 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: I think the people in this world can learn a 352 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 4: lot from our locker room. You're walking out of locker room. 353 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 7: You got guys in different races, guys in different backgrounds, 354 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 7: different with the religions, and you've got a team that 355 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 7: loves each other. Like tons of differences, tons of differences 356 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 7: where they come from, what they deal with, and ultimately 357 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 7: you got a team that loves each other. And I 358 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 7: think we're missing some of that in our country. You know, 359 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 7: you talked about our recent out like Charlie Kirk was 360 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 7: an organ fan, right, I didn't know that. I heard 361 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 7: for his wife, Erica and their kids like that that sort 362 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 7: of evil should never exist in our country, and that's 363 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 7: what it is. 364 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 4: Evil. 365 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 7: But I remember having to explain that to my family, right, 366 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 7: I remember sitting down my kids and explaining what happened, 367 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 7: and they're talking about people talking about it at school, 368 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 7: and it's just sad, right, But it's just as said, 369 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 7: you know, every day it seems like we deal with 370 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 7: some sort of violence that's going on in our country, 371 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 7: whether it's you know, school kids in Colorado or kids 372 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 7: in Minnesota at churches. I mean, life matters, you know, 373 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 7: and I think we've lost sight of that. But I 374 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 7: just wish, I wish the world could learn a little 375 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 7: bit of something from our locker room, because we got 376 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 7: a bunch of people with differences, and what you got 377 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 7: in there is a bunch of people love there. 378 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: And there's some people that'll be. 379 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 7: Disappointed about how much I said about this, right, and 380 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 7: there will be some people that are disappointed that I 381 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 7: didn't say enough. 382 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 4: Right. I really don't care, right. 383 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 7: What I do care about is if you disagree with me, 384 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 7: if you hate me, if you don't like me, just 385 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 7: know this, I love you. 386 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 4: I absolutely love you. 387 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 7: Right, Life matters, and that's no way that Charlie should experience, 388 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 7: that his family should experience that. 389 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: There's no way that evil should exist in this world. 390 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 7: And we have to continue to identify and point it 391 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 7: out and make sure that it's absolutely evil. 392 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 4: There's no reason in the world that. 393 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 7: Our kids we should be worried about sending our kids 394 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 7: to school. It's our most valuable commodity in the world. 395 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: They should be protected. And the reality is there's just 396 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 7: not a lot of common sense on both sides, like 397 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 7: common senses. 398 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: Oh it's mental health, right, comment says that, oh it's guns, 399 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: you know what, it's both Like, let's have some common sense. 400 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 7: Our kids should be the most protected thing in the world, right. 401 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 7: They should have arm guards at every school because there's 402 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 7: sick people. There's sick people in this world, right, And 403 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 7: on top of that, sick people need help, and it 404 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 7: should be really hard for a sick person to have 405 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 7: a gun. 406 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: Should be really hard, right, And if. 407 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 7: People can't see that from both sides, how disappointing is that. 408 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 7: But I just know, like when you've seen moments like 409 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 7: that that exist right now in our country, Like I 410 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 7: just think about my kids and I hope I remember 411 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 7: I saw that video is discussing and I just told them, like, man, 412 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 7: I hope my kids don't. 413 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: See that video commerces that side. 414 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 7: I hope Charlie's kids never see that video, Like discussing right, 415 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 7: and we glorify it, we praise it. You know, people 416 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 7: our Internet warriors, and those are sick people. 417 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 4: And at some point we need to go look at. 418 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 7: Sports because what our football team has is it has 419 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 7: people on both sides of the fence, right, and there's 420 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 7: fans that love our team that have a lot of 421 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 7: different opinions. And the truth is, there's a lot of 422 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 7: things Charlie said that I did not not agree with 423 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 7: it all. There's a lot of things he said that 424 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 7: I did agree with. But what's disappointing is I can 425 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 7: respect those differences and as somebody else couldn't. 426 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: And they thought that they deserved to be God. 427 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 7: In that moment and they didn't, right, and nobody should 428 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 7: have to experience that. 429 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Michael very young. 430 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: Beliephen King still posted, She's a very angry man. It's 431 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: very angry. And I assure you his anger is not 432 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't know this, but his anger is not at 433 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: conservatism or race sism, or homophobia, transphobism or xenophobia or 434 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: whatever else he has assigned it to. His anger, as 435 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: is somewhat common, is that life and the cycle of it. 436 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: You know, a little baby is naive and innocent world 437 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: before them, but afraid, afraid because the world is frightening 438 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: and everything is a threat. They are like an animal 439 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: in nature. They don't know anything outside the realm. Mommy 440 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: goes into the other room. Mommy's abandoned me. They don't 441 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: know how to communicate yet, so the only thing they 442 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: know that gets attention is to scream and to cry. 443 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: You're hungry, man, you just pooped yourself bad, just peed yourself. 444 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 4: Man. 445 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: It's unpleasant, it's all over you. Please get it off 446 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: of me. You're tired, you want to sleep. 447 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: Nah. 448 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: My wife told me when my kids were young, such wisdom. 449 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: I would. 450 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm a big one for discipline and. 451 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Respect because that's how I was raised. 452 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: So if they were being cranky and disrespectful, never to 453 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: me they knew better. But to her I would jump in, 454 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: you do not talk to your mother that way. Now 455 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: here is the concert. And when they were being cranky, 456 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: before I could finish them off, she would say, now 457 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: he's hungry or sleepy, or both, so just give me 458 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: five minutes to get some food in him, and after 459 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: that you can be mister disciplinarian. All right, And in 460 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: five minutes, five minutes, my little angel came back. How 461 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: did that work? It's almost like Mama knew something that 462 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: Dad didn't. Right, crazy, how that works? 463 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: Well? 464 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: Well, the life cycle is cruel, but it's nature. We 465 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: go out of the world much like we go into 466 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: the world, all probably naked, one form or another, all 467 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: the earthly shackles taken off, afraid, scared, confused, sleepy, hungry, 468 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: and most likely if we live to a ripe old age, 469 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: about as coordinated or able to use our body or 470 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: keep from drooling as a baby is. And some people 471 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: don't deal well with that, especially people who've lived as 472 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: Kings Stephen King did. He had a lot of money, 473 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: he had a lot of public adulation. That's a drug, 474 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: that's a life and as that begins, that tunnel begins 475 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: to darken and the end is near. Some people don't 476 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: deal well with that. Some people have to look inside 477 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: the darkness of their own soul, and so they will 478 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: redirect that anger. 479 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: They have. 480 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: Anger at the finality of life and the certainty that 481 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: it is approaching, and they will insult other people. And 482 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: that's what Stephen King has chosen to do, so, he 483 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: said online. When someone paid tribute to Charlie Kirk, he 484 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: said he was forestoning the gaze. Well, he either hadn't 485 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: read or heard anything Charlie Kirk had ever done, or 486 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: he hadn't he was lying, either of which is a 487 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: sin of omission or comission. 488 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: It's wrong. 489 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: You're defaming the dead, and for what good? And when 490 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, if you're honest, that you've not read a 491 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: thing he's ever said. Wow, isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? 492 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: How you can do that? I've been defamed. People over 493 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: the years have told me, Yeah, I get so mad 494 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: at work because so and so in the lunch room 495 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: will say you're a racist, and I get so mad, 496 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: to which I respond, why do you get mad. 497 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Because you're not? Okay? 498 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: Well, if that guy thinks I'm really handsome, that wouldn't 499 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: bother you, would it? 500 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 6: No? 501 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: If he thinks I'm really ugly, that wouldn't bother you, 502 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: would it? 503 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 6: No? 504 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: I guess not. If he doesn't like my choice and 505 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: the clothes I wear, or where I live, or the 506 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: word I use as a synonym for another word write, 507 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: his opinion doesn't matter. And once we understand that, Ramon, 508 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: do you remember who famously said, imagine how much good 509 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: you can do in the world if you stop caring 510 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: what other people think about you. Yes that was Michael 511 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: christian Berry. That was me, And I believe that stop 512 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: caring what other people think about you. Stop engaging in 513 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: every little spat online. I see people they beat their chests. 514 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm mad, I'm angry, I'm gonna speak out. I'm awake now. 515 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: So before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you weren't awake. They 516 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: shot Donald Trump last year, they stole the election. They 517 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: forced you to wear a mask. They killed my brother 518 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: and a lot of other people with a jab, and 519 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: you just now woke up. My goodness alive. No wonder 520 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: we lose elections. Who else has to be killed before 521 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: some other people wake up? What were you doing before that? 522 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: If you weren't awake before that, what were you doing 523 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: before that? So two things. If you go out there 524 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: and boldly state your opinion, let's say on Facebook, especially 525 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: for the older. 526 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: US, I love the Lord. 527 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: I think that Charlie Kirk was ministering and evangelizing, and 528 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: I think his testimony was powerful, and I'm here to 529 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: tell you I think it was a good thing in 530 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: Godly You need to understand somebody is going if for 531 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 2: no other reason than to be cantankerous and a contrarian. 532 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: Somebody is going to slice you for that. And for 533 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: most people, they have never been insulted in that way, 534 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: and so the line will go, oh, really, I guess 535 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: you're a racist now too, and a white nationalist and 536 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: hate gaze because that's what he was. 537 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: And then these people will come back, I'm under attack. 538 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm under attack. They're trying to attack me. 539 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: Come down, some person commented on your social media page. 540 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: If you're under attack, you're probably being bruised and bloodied 541 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: or worse. You can't simply turn off your social media 542 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: page or unclick that window and get out of an attack. 543 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: That is all performance art consume. Don't contribute if you 544 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: don't want to be in the conflict or be the 545 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: person you want to be when the slings and arrows 546 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: are shot at you at that moment, stand tall. Let 547 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: them insult you. That's what Christ did. Let them beat you, 548 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: let them be condemned by their own ugly words. The 549 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: most strength you can show is to let people insult 550 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: what you've said. Post it again tomorrow. Don't engage with 551 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: that person. That's the crazy person at the bus stop 552 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: you drove past with matted hair. No matter who they are, 553 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: whose wife they are, you know the truth stated and 554 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: then let it lay