WEBVTT - 11/19/21 DPS Hour 3 Jeff Van Gundy 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.960 Maller along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would meet 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.720 a lot to have you join us on our weekly 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.880 auditory journey. You're asking what in God's name is the 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.200 Fifth Hour. I'll tell you it's a spin off of 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.120 that Ben Maller show, cult hit overnights on FSR. Why 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.560 should you listen? Picture if you will a world will 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.320 we chat with captains of industry in media, sports and 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.720 more every week Explorer some amazing facts about a human 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.920 nature and more. Let's sen to the Fifth Hour with 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.800 Ben Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:38.519 you get your podcast. Final Hour on this Meet Friday. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.120 Come on in, stay a while. Jeff Van Gundi on 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.599 loan from the Mother's Ship, will look at the LA Lakers. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.239 Can you make an assessment? How many teams can you 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.040 look at right now and say I know exactly what 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.280 that team is going to be like, say next spring. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.760 We'll talk to Jeff Van Gundy coming up. Also, once again, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.800 I had information in the first Hour from his source. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.400 I screwed it up. So I'm giving you a clarification 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.800 once again that the College Football Playoff Committee is going 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:12.080 to meet and if they don't pass the twelve team 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:17.520 playoff proposal in December, then it will probably go into 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.840 play in twenty twenty five. If they do pass it, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.600 if they vote that they want a twelve team playoff, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.280 it will be put into play, not next season, but 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.400 twenty twenty three. So I said it would be next season, 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.119 and my source text me back to say, no, it's 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.280 twenty twenty three. But it's a quick turnaround. We thought 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.240 we were going to have to wait till twenty twenty five. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.160 And I don't know what the hurdles are. Everybody wants 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.200 to know what they're going to make and a lot 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.920 of this had to do with the other networks. Were 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.640 worried that ESPN was going to have a monopoly here. 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.040 They wanted to make sure that ESPN didn't get to 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.800 take over college football any more than they already have, 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.160 and that there were going to be partnership with everybody. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.000 So they're going to vote in December. They tabled this. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.720 They were going to vote. I thought in November. From 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.959 what I was told, it'll be December. They have a vote, 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.240 and if it passes, we'll have a twelve team playoff. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.560 Not next season, but twenty twenty three. If it doesn't pass, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.040 then it'll be twenty twenty five. Eight seven seven three 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.720 d P Show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.120 Twitter handled at DP show. Say good morning to Peacock, 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.640 our streaming partner. They've been great, great friends of the show. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.560 Download the app watch for free all three hours. We 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:38.160 say good morning to the Fox Sports radio lineup and iHeartRadio, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.880 so I mentioned Jeff Van Gundy will join us coming up. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.440 You had the Patriots rolling the Falcons last night. Pretty 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.600 easy night for all involved except for the Falcons. And 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.720 this is a Patriot team that's now seven and four. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:57.040 Here's a Bill Belichick highlighting his defense. Oh, I mean 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.200 if they have the night. Really it was Devin's interception 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.239 and the rest of them okay out then and also 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.480 really affected the score that much. O're a good place, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.840 jac Man a heck of a play on the interception 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.360 on sideline Kyle and AP. But when you get ahead, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.239 that's that's kind of when some of those plays come. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.680 Here's Mac Jones on his performance and his teams. They 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.760 look great out there. They know who they're blocking and 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.440 it's cool to see them work together. It's just they 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.480 have a lot of chemistry and a lot of snaps together. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.480 They've jailed really well and I feel comfortable in the 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.080 pocket with what they're doing. And some of those sacks 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.919 and I had nothing to do with them that was 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.160 me and issues that I can fix through communication. They've 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.960 done a great job and I just got to hold 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.480 up my end of the bargain. All right. You know, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.000 you laud your teammates, you take the blame when something 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.280 goes bad. Well done. Well done for a rookie In 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.520 a season full of marquee matchups on TV, the Chiefs 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.280 and Cowboys on Sunday is going to stand out on Fox. 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.160 It's got everything. You start with the Cowboys. They always 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.320 rate and this might be their best chance to pete 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.040 for a Super Bowl since the nineties Glory days except 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.560 for the mysterious loss to Denver two weeks ago. Dak 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.800 Prescott is playing well. I think he's the leading candidate 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.680 for the MVP right now. I know that we're trying 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.080 to shoehorn Josh Allen in there, maybe Tom Brady in there. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.000 I'm looking for consistency. Chiefs are always relevant because they're 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.760 always good. But the struggles this season actually made them 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.480 even more interesting. Patrick Mahomes looked like himself against the 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.239 Raiders last week, but is that going to last Kansas City? 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:38.400 Can Kansas City slow down Dallas? And what about Dallas's defense? 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.839 You got Michael Parsons, and Parsons might be the defensive 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.960 player of the year, but his competition might be from 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:51.680 his teammate trey Von Diggs. But both have kind of 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.720 cooled off a little. You know, Parsons is up there 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.640 as one of the sack leaders in the NFL, I believe, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.920 but I would love to have Michael Parsons against Travis Kelsey. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.160 But as a scout told me, Michael Parsons is nowhere 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:12.160 near being able to cover Travis Kelsey. Not that anybody 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.720 really is, but he's not there yet as far as developmental, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.560 you know, trying to cover somebody in space like that 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.920 that he's very good at getting to the quarterback, you know, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.960 edge rusher and extremely quick, but trying to cover Travis Kelsey. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.479 He's not ready for that matchup yet, or so I 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.720 was told. Yes, mclovin, the line on that game I'm 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.360 seeing is Kansas City's favored by two and a half. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.640 If you get three points for home field. Does that 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.440 mean that Vegas used Dallas is maybe the better a 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:45.400 little bit, probably slightly. Yeah, But but Vegas doesn't have emotions, right, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.839 that's not what Vegas does. Like we bet, we're emotional 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.800 when we bet, it's not good to be emotional. You 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.440 don't want to do that now where you go, Oh, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.480 you know, I lost that and I'm gonna double up 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.360 on this. That's not the way to go about it. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.200 Vegas loves when you do that, by the way. Yeah, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.799 you sound like you're speaking from some experience. Oh man, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.520 the number of times when I'd lose on Sunday and 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.320 I go, I'm gonna get it all back on Monday, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.919 and then all of a sudden, you go, damn, what's 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.080 the vig that I owe with this? It's one thing 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.880 to lose, Like, let's say you lose a dime, and 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.720 then you have to throw a hundred on top of 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.440 that for the vig. It's just the vig always bummed 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.719 me out, because if I'd lose a bet might be 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.320 too grand or something, I'd go to twenty two hundred, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.239 as if the two grands shouldn't have been enough to go, Hey, idiot, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.800 you got to you gotta spend two and to go 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.720 to your bookie's house and you knock on the door 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.920 and I'm delivering money. You know, it's just And he 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.960 lived around the corner from me, and I told the 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.960 dan Ats. I saw a car on Bring a Trailer, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.279 the website Bring a Trailer, and it was a light 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:03.280 blue Lincoln Continental. It was a Mark three or Mark four. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.800 I texted to Paul Lee and I said, what do 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.400 you think? And Paully says, oh, man, that is awesome. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.760 I said, my bookie, my book he drove that. I 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.400 drove a car that cost two hundred dollars. He was 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.600 driving that. That should have told me, Yes, Paul, did 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.000 you remember a weekend when you lost the bookie and 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.400 you didn't have the money? Like or for a couple 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.720 of days you're like, I don't have it, whether you 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.320 told him or just in your head, you're like, I 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.280 don't have the cut to cover this. I don't it's 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.680 not available to me right yet? Um? Or was it? 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.680 Would you always bet within your means? No? There was 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.200 there probably two times that I did bet and I 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.920 didn't have the money to cover. But he knew where 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.000 I lived, and so it wasn't like he even said, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.200 he goes, I know where you live. But he wasn't 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.600 a tough guy. He's just a businessman. He had he 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.200 had a regular job, he had a great job. But 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.960 he loved this. But man, there was nothing better than 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.520 going over there and you knock on the door and 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.680 you say, uh, can I get my money? Because he 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.560 would always say, do you want to just leave it 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:08.080 in your account? And I'd go, yeah, yeah, sure, leaving 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.480 in Now, this is this a long time ago. This 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.320 is back in the eighties, seventies, and it's not like 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.480 you could monitor your staff. You know, you couldn't look 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.000 on your smartphone or anything. And I then I realized, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.400 if I leave it in, then I'll gamble it, I'll 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.119 bet it. And then I started taking money out. Lost 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.320 my last bet, last bet I ever placed. It cost 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.280 me thirty three hundred. Yeah, if you were winning, you 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.920 would have kept going. Thank god I lost. Thank God 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.760 I lost because I bought my mom a dishwasher. Yeah. Time, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.720 So you never had a couple of guys, giant guys 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.800 with no neck show up and said you boss says 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.400 you have to Friday. No, make sure it's there by now. No, No, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.920 it wasn't that kind of environment. Yes, was your last 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.920 game like a super Bowl or like an Atlantic ten 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.920 basketball game? It was a bowl game. It's a Bowl 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.120 Atlantic ten. Yeah, I wouldn't bet. They didn't have Atlantic 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.160 ten back then. But did you ever you probably bet 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.439 on Saint Bonaventure. Well, no, no, no, I was never. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.120 I was never that down in the dumps like I 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.480 just bet college or pro football. That was it. I 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.360 was really good at pro football, but I thought I 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.679 was really good at college football. And you're like, Ohio 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.200 State's gonna cover the seventeen against Indiana. Final score, Ohio 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:30.439 State twenty one, Indiana ten. That's a lost talk. Yes. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.200 I was once on a road trip and we ended 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.280 up in Las Vegas and we're at the MGM Grant 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.520 and the only thing left on the board was like 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.240 there wasn't even baseball left. There was a delayed whether 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.760 delayed CFL game. It was like the Winnipeg Blue Bombers 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.760 or something like that, and we bet on it and 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.319 we just felt dirty, you know, everything else was done 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.560 for the night. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I lost. I 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:54.800 get that. I understand that. And sometimes I've never been 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.480 one of those guys that needs to have something on 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.760 a game to watch it. But a lot of guys 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.720 they'll be like, nobody cares about this game. I'm gonna 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.800 throw a couple of bucks on it, and it'll be like, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.520 I can't watch it if I don't even like watching 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.720 if somebody else i'm with has money on a game. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.040 Because I hate that feeling. I know that feeling so well, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:22.280 and when you know it's just gonna end horribly, like 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.120 it's one of those where you're going, oh god, it's 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:29.120 gonna hurt. Who was the game the other night where 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.800 the line was twenty four and a half that Kentucky Basketballet, okay, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:41.760 and they won by twenty five. I just that's where 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.920 you go, man, they really know what they're How many 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.480 times have we been saying how many years? How many decades? 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:50.320 Do we go? Man? They really know what they're doing? Yeah, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.080 they do, but they have to. There was a walk 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.520 on who scored four points in the final thirty seconds 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:03.920 and that's the reason why it went the that's the 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:09.640 better dry heavi. Oh it's it's bad. Yeah, I mcclubbing bad. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.640 I love when the walk ons come on that. Those 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.480 are my people. That was me oh, I'd be firing away. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.079 So you if you make a walk on you Kentucky, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.160 you would have shot at ey chance, you guy every time, 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.040 every time, you know, when you see those guys come in, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.360 they've been practicing all year long, and then they got 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.680 to throw a crisp bounce pass to somebody and you're thinking, damn, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.440 I'm getting in the books with a shot. I don't care, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.439 might be over one. Gotta get a shot up there, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.120 all right? Age seven seven three d P Show Email 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.040 Andrews email address dpit Dan Patrick dot com. We got 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.200 the triggers all fired up. If you're watching on Peacock, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.640 we will open the trigger grills coming up in about 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.959 twenty minutes from now. We decided we were going to 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:55.680 have Thanksgiving today, so next Wednesday if we have meet 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.880 Friday because we won't be working Thursday and Friday. I 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.720 didn't want to have turkey on Wednesday and then we'd 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.839 have it on Thursday as well, So in case you're 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.960 wondering why we're having turkey, it's a little separation there. 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.800 Thank you, Todd, the fantastic idea. By your thank you, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.280 Thank you, we got our pull question for the Fay 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.120 Show for jeff An Guinny coming up. We want to 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.800 know if you had to pick one team coming out 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.040 of the West right now, the only three choices I'm 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.720 giving him are the Warriors, the Suns, and the Lakers. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.079 Lebron might come back tonight. The other question on the 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.360 side of the glasses, if you had to bet on 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:34.520 one team today to reach the championship, would you take 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:38.240 the Lakers or Bill Balichick and the Patriots? Right now? 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.800 When did we have this discussion? You weren't involved, Yes, Paul, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.360 this was my idea and I passed it to Andrew 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.400 because in case it went poorly, I thought you could 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.680 blame it on him. People are really hot on the 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.199 Patriots right now and down on the Lakers. But yeah, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:13:01.520 I had they crossed expectations. Well, the Patriots, I think, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.720 have exceeded expectations by a lot of people, whereas the 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.520 Lakers haven't come close to what people think they're going 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.120 to be. How much confidence do I have? Um? I 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.720 think the Patriots are are a playoff team, not a 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:19.520 super Bowl team. I think the Lakers can win a championship. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.240 I don't. I don't think they will, but but they 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.440 can win one. Patriots, I don't. I don't see them 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:33.160 winning a championship. I don't see them getting to the 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:38.079 AFC title game. I think they're good. I think they're good. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:44.839 They're they're solid, consistent, and maybe maybe they're overachieving. I mean, 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.600 I thought they'd have ten wins this year, all right. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.800 They got seven so far. It seems like, you know, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.640 they would exceed that. Yeah, McClement, Well, the Warriors are 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.839 coming back to earth a little dolly during the road. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.320 They only be Cleveland by like twenty or something. You know, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.679 I think you all have what forty something like that. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.200 They're showing their real colors now. Steph had twenty In 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.920 the fourth quarter. Warriors outscored Cleveland thirty six to eight. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.520 Steph had nine three pointers. That's the fourth game with 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.680 at least nine three pointers made already this season. That's 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.880 tied for the fourth most such games in a season 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.240 since nineteen seventy nine, when they brought in the three 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.640 point shot. Curry also owns the top three seasons and 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.880 one of the four other seasons tied for fourth. Stat 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.200 of the days of the day, the beast stat of 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.560 the day stat of the day here comes that what 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:45.040 stat the day by the way does the game mean 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.680 more to Dallas in Kansas City or Kansas City hosting Dallas, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.000 because it feels like Kansas City needs to have a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.880 couple of back to back wins, like you got to 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.720 have that. Hey, we blew out the Raiders and now 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.000 you got Dallas coming, Like this could be one of 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.920 those games with Dallas where Dallas becomes the team to 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:08.680 beat in football. If Dallas beats Kansas City, if Kansas 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.280 City beats Dallas, do we then have a question mark 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:17.160 above Dallas going okay, maybe not as good as everybody thinks. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.520 Or do we say Kansas City Kansas City is the 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.520 team to beat in the AFC? I mean it feels 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.640 like that's your headline on Monday. There's gonna be a 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.800 lot of headlines attached to that game, yes, Todd. And 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.000 also since it's such a compressed division in the FC 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.200 West compared to the NFC East, there's a little more 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.880 breathing room right now. Anyway, for Dallas, the Chiefs, everything, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.840 everybody's like split by about a game to a game 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:44.560 and a half or so. Thank you, Todd. Welcome, all right, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.840 we'll take a break. We'll talk to Jeff Van Gun 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.320 to get his thoughts on the Lakers, and I'll ask 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.480 him the question. I'll give you Durant or Steph Curry? 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.720 Who you got? That'll be coming up next here Dan 0:15:55.760 --> 0:16:00.440 Patrick show. M drive has a new product called M 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.080 drive Lean, powerful protein supplement for driven guys who want 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.160 to lose weight, look good, and perform at their best, 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.120 no matter what their age is, and M drive Lean 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.360 is the first of its kind. 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He'll join Mark Jackson Ryan ruco 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.720 calling tonight's mAb's Sons game. That's a ten Eastern on ESPN. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.240 The earlier game, the Lakers visit the Celtics. Mike Breen, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:43.240 Dorisburg and Cassidy Hubbard will be providing the coverage of 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.639 that as Jeff joins us on the show. Good morning, Jeff, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.320 how are you today? Still makes me laugh every time 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:55.160 you say, Mothership, I'm doing good well. I was wondering 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.800 about as a coach, when do you when what's the 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.120 earliest you think you can get an assessment of how 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.080 good you think your team is going to be there 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.320 in the season or how bad. I would say, you 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.719 don't want to underreact, nor do you want to overreact. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.320 So I think you try to give yourself a quarter 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.840 of the season in or around you know, twenty games. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.000 But now it's so hard Dan, because there's so many 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:26.720 people that sit games out for injuries or for you know, 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.920 personal reasons, that it's it's a lot harder to get 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.080 a gauge of what you have because you never have 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.600 your team. When do you think will be a fair 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:44.960 starting point to assess the Lakers? Well, I think when 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.080 James gets back and he plays, you know, ten games. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:54.960 And I also think because James has been out, people 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.679 have overlooked Kendrick Nunn being out, and Kendrick Nunn will 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:04.240 be a huge addition to their group defensive intensity, some 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.600 speed and quickness which they lack throughout their roster. So 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.080 I think when James and None get back and you 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.439 see what they have and if you see, you know, 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.840 how are they going to play with Westbrook, Davis, Carmelo, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.280 Anthony and James and how they fit around those four guys, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.960 and I would suspect they're probably going to stick with 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.199 Anthony Davis for a majority minutes at the five. I 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.400 think then you're gonna know, you know, are they a 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.639 good team, a really good team or a championship level team. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.320 What do you do with the Russell Westbrooks style? If 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.480 if you want to modify, slowdown, change or can you 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:50.919 at this stage? No? I think you know Westbrook, for 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:56.480 better or for worse, is committed to his his style 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.000 of play. And I don't think you're going to change 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:06.720 somebody's strengths at this You know, at this age, his 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.480 strengths will remain his strengths. His non strengths will remain 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.159 their non strengths. And I think what you want to 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.040 do is maximize his strengths, try to minimize or hide 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.840 the non strengths. And I think what's really interesting is 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.320 how they're going to go about, Okay, when James has 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.840 the ball or James and Davis earn pick and roll, 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.399 what what do you want Westbrook to do? Do you 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.120 want him to spot up and attack? Do you want 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.040 him to spot up and shoot because he will be open. 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.040 That's where teams are going to give support from defensively, 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.439 and I think for the Lakers, they just have to 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.320 decide what they think gives them their best chance. And 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:51.160 I think when they get when Westbrook commits, even though 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:56.560 it leads to some turnovers, to attacking off of on 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.479 the second side, when he's on the week side, I 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.480 think he create some good things and I think they 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:07.760 need that sort of thrust to the basket. Would you 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.240 want to coach him right now? You know what? Dan? 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.159 When I interviewed for the Rockets job when he was 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.040 still a member of the Rockets, and this was in 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.959 the pandemic, and I wanted to speak to both Harden 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:27.080 and Westbrook. Harden didn't make himself available. Westbrook did, and 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:34.919 I had the best conversation with a player that I 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:39.800 didn't know at all when I coached Westbrook. When I 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:45.159 talked to Westbrook, I should say he was so forthright 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:50.480 in what he thought, how he saw himself, his place 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:55.200 in the game. I really appreciated his directness and his honesty, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:22:01.399 because sometimes in those situations it's easier to if you 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.520 don't know somebody, just be sort of cliche ish and 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:11.240 more passive aggressive. And I just I really appreciated I've 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.840 always appreciated who Westbrook is off the floor. He does so, 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:19.200 so many remarkable things. But in that one conversation I had, 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.199 maybe it was like a forty five minute to an 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:29.560 hour conversation, I just really appreciated his directness and and 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.520 he was I don't want to say appreciative of my directness, 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.800 but I think he. I think he liked a direct 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:43.240 talk and straightforwardness. So it was a great conversation. And again, 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.680 you don't know someone until you coach him, so it'd 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.480 be impossible for me to answer your question, but I 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.680 think from that conversation I would have enjoyed being around him. 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.600 How do you not take Harden not wanting to talk 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.119 to you as like, do you take it personally that 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.520 he doesn't want to talk to you? Well, I don't know. 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.199 If he didn't want to just talk to me, I 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.200 don't know if he wanted to participate any okay, okay, 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.399 in the in the process, maybe he already knew he 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:16.000