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Speaker 1: Come on in, stay a while. Jeff Van Gundi on
Speaker 1: loan from the Mother's Ship, will look at the LA Lakers.
Speaker 1: Can you make an assessment? How many teams can you
Speaker 1: look at right now and say I know exactly what
Speaker 1: that team is going to be like, say next spring.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jeff Van Gundy coming up. Also, once again,
Speaker 1: I had information in the first Hour from his source.
Speaker 1: I screwed it up. So I'm giving you a clarification
Speaker 1: once again that the College Football Playoff Committee is going
Speaker 1: to meet and if they don't pass the twelve team
Speaker 1: playoff proposal in December, then it will probably go into
Speaker 1: play in twenty twenty five. If they do pass it,
Speaker 1: if they vote that they want a twelve team playoff,
Speaker 1: it will be put into play, not next season, but
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So I said it would be next season,
Speaker 1: and my source text me back to say, no, it's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But it's a quick turnaround. We thought
Speaker 1: we were going to have to wait till twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the hurdles are. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to know what they're going to make and a lot
Speaker 1: of this had to do with the other networks. Were
Speaker 1: worried that ESPN was going to have a monopoly here.
Speaker 1: They wanted to make sure that ESPN didn't get to
Speaker 1: take over college football any more than they already have,
Speaker 1: and that there were going to be partnership with everybody.
Speaker 1: So they're going to vote in December. They tabled this.
Speaker 1: They were going to vote. I thought in November. From
Speaker 1: what I was told, it'll be December. They have a vote,
Speaker 1: and if it passes, we'll have a twelve team playoff.
Speaker 1: Not next season, but twenty twenty three. If it doesn't pass,
Speaker 1: then it'll be twenty twenty five. Eight seven seven three
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Speaker 1: You had the Patriots rolling the Falcons last night. Pretty
Speaker 1: easy night for all involved except for the Falcons. And
Speaker 1: this is a Patriot team that's now seven and four.
Speaker 1: Here's a Bill Belichick highlighting his defense. Oh, I mean
Speaker 1: if they have the night. Really it was Devin's interception
Speaker 1: and the rest of them okay out then and also
Speaker 1: really affected the score that much. O're a good place,
Speaker 1: jac Man a heck of a play on the interception
Speaker 1: on sideline Kyle and AP. But when you get ahead,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of when some of those plays come.
Speaker 1: Here's Mac Jones on his performance and his teams. They
Speaker 1: look great out there. They know who they're blocking and
Speaker 1: it's cool to see them work together. It's just they
Speaker 1: have a lot of chemistry and a lot of snaps together.
Speaker 1: They've jailed really well and I feel comfortable in the
Speaker 1: pocket with what they're doing. And some of those sacks
Speaker 1: and I had nothing to do with them that was
Speaker 1: me and issues that I can fix through communication. They've
Speaker 1: done a great job and I just got to hold
Speaker 1: up my end of the bargain. All right. You know,
Speaker 1: you laud your teammates, you take the blame when something
Speaker 1: goes bad. Well done. Well done for a rookie In
Speaker 1: a season full of marquee matchups on TV, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and Cowboys on Sunday is going to stand out on Fox.
Speaker 1: It's got everything. You start with the Cowboys. They always
Speaker 1: rate and this might be their best chance to pete
Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl since the nineties Glory days except
Speaker 1: for the mysterious loss to Denver two weeks ago. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is playing well. I think he's the leading candidate
Speaker 1: for the MVP right now. I know that we're trying
Speaker 1: to shoehorn Josh Allen in there, maybe Tom Brady in there.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for consistency. Chiefs are always relevant because they're
Speaker 1: always good. But the struggles this season actually made them
Speaker 1: even more interesting. Patrick Mahomes looked like himself against the
Speaker 1: Raiders last week, but is that going to last Kansas City?
Speaker 1: Can Kansas City slow down Dallas? And what about Dallas's defense?
Speaker 1: You got Michael Parsons, and Parsons might be the defensive
Speaker 1: player of the year, but his competition might be from
Speaker 1: his teammate trey Von Diggs. But both have kind of
Speaker 1: cooled off a little. You know, Parsons is up there
Speaker 1: as one of the sack leaders in the NFL, I believe,
Speaker 1: but I would love to have Michael Parsons against Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: But as a scout told me, Michael Parsons is nowhere
Speaker 1: near being able to cover Travis Kelsey. Not that anybody
Speaker 1: really is, but he's not there yet as far as developmental,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to cover somebody in space like that
Speaker 1: that he's very good at getting to the quarterback, you know,
Speaker 1: edge rusher and extremely quick, but trying to cover Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: He's not ready for that matchup yet, or so I
Speaker 1: was told. Yes, mclovin, the line on that game I'm
Speaker 1: seeing is Kansas City's favored by two and a half.
Speaker 1: If you get three points for home field. Does that
Speaker 1: mean that Vegas used Dallas is maybe the better a
Speaker 1: little bit, probably slightly. Yeah, But but Vegas doesn't have emotions, right,
Speaker 1: that's not what Vegas does. Like we bet, we're emotional
Speaker 1: when we bet, it's not good to be emotional. You
Speaker 1: don't want to do that now where you go, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I lost that and I'm gonna double up
Speaker 1: on this. That's not the way to go about it.
Speaker 1: Vegas loves when you do that, by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you sound like you're speaking from some experience. Oh man,
Speaker 1: the number of times when I'd lose on Sunday and
Speaker 1: I go, I'm gonna get it all back on Monday,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you go, damn, what's
Speaker 1: the vig that I owe with this? It's one thing
Speaker 1: to lose, Like, let's say you lose a dime, and
Speaker 1: then you have to throw a hundred on top of
Speaker 1: that for the vig. It's just the vig always bummed
Speaker 1: me out, because if I'd lose a bet might be
Speaker 1: too grand or something, I'd go to twenty two hundred,
Speaker 1: as if the two grands shouldn't have been enough to go, Hey, idiot,
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta spend two and to go
Speaker 1: to your bookie's house and you knock on the door
Speaker 1: and I'm delivering money. You know, it's just And he
Speaker 1: lived around the corner from me, and I told the
Speaker 1: dan Ats. I saw a car on Bring a Trailer,
Speaker 1: the website Bring a Trailer, and it was a light
Speaker 1: blue Lincoln Continental. It was a Mark three or Mark four.
Speaker 1: I texted to Paul Lee and I said, what do
Speaker 1: you think? And Paully says, oh, man, that is awesome.
Speaker 1: I said, my bookie, my book he drove that. I
Speaker 1: drove a car that cost two hundred dollars. He was
Speaker 1: driving that. That should have told me, Yes, Paul, did
Speaker 1: you remember a weekend when you lost the bookie and
Speaker 1: you didn't have the money? Like or for a couple
Speaker 1: of days you're like, I don't have it, whether you
Speaker 1: told him or just in your head, you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't have the cut to cover this. I don't it's
Speaker 1: not available to me right yet? Um? Or was it?
Speaker 1: Would you always bet within your means? No? There was
Speaker 1: there probably two times that I did bet and I
Speaker 1: didn't have the money to cover. But he knew where
Speaker 1: I lived, and so it wasn't like he even said,
Speaker 1: he goes, I know where you live. But he wasn't
Speaker 1: a tough guy. He's just a businessman. He had he
Speaker 1: had a regular job, he had a great job. But
Speaker 1: he loved this. But man, there was nothing better than
Speaker 1: going over there and you knock on the door and
Speaker 1: you say, uh, can I get my money? Because he
Speaker 1: would always say, do you want to just leave it
Speaker 1: in your account? And I'd go, yeah, yeah, sure, leaving
Speaker 1: in Now, this is this a long time ago. This
Speaker 1: is back in the eighties, seventies, and it's not like
Speaker 1: you could monitor your staff. You know, you couldn't look
Speaker 1: on your smartphone or anything. And I then I realized,
Speaker 1: if I leave it in, then I'll gamble it, I'll
Speaker 1: bet it. And then I started taking money out. Lost
Speaker 1: my last bet, last bet I ever placed. It cost
Speaker 1: me thirty three hundred. Yeah, if you were winning, you
Speaker 1: would have kept going. Thank god I lost. Thank God
Speaker 1: I lost because I bought my mom a dishwasher. Yeah. Time,
Speaker 1: So you never had a couple of guys, giant guys
Speaker 1: with no neck show up and said you boss says
Speaker 1: you have to Friday. No, make sure it's there by now. No, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that kind of environment. Yes, was your last
Speaker 1: game like a super Bowl or like an Atlantic ten
Speaker 1: basketball game? It was a bowl game. It's a Bowl
Speaker 1: Atlantic ten. Yeah, I wouldn't bet. They didn't have Atlantic
Speaker 1: ten back then. But did you ever you probably bet
Speaker 1: on Saint Bonaventure. Well, no, no, no, I was never.
Speaker 1: I was never that down in the dumps like I
Speaker 1: just bet college or pro football. That was it. I
Speaker 1: was really good at pro football, but I thought I
Speaker 1: was really good at college football. And you're like, Ohio
Speaker 1: State's gonna cover the seventeen against Indiana. Final score, Ohio
Speaker 1: State twenty one, Indiana ten. That's a lost talk. Yes.
Speaker 1: I was once on a road trip and we ended
Speaker 1: up in Las Vegas and we're at the MGM Grant
Speaker 1: and the only thing left on the board was like
Speaker 1: there wasn't even baseball left. There was a delayed whether
Speaker 1: delayed CFL game. It was like the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
Speaker 1: or something like that, and we bet on it and
Speaker 1: we just felt dirty, you know, everything else was done
Speaker 1: for the night. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I lost. I
Speaker 1: get that. I understand that. And sometimes I've never been
Speaker 1: one of those guys that needs to have something on
Speaker 1: a game to watch it. But a lot of guys
Speaker 1: they'll be like, nobody cares about this game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw a couple of bucks on it, and it'll be like,
Speaker 1: I can't watch it if I don't even like watching
Speaker 1: if somebody else i'm with has money on a game.
Speaker 1: Because I hate that feeling. I know that feeling so well,
Speaker 1: and when you know it's just gonna end horribly, like
Speaker 1: it's one of those where you're going, oh god, it's
Speaker 1: gonna hurt. Who was the game the other night where
Speaker 1: the line was twenty four and a half that Kentucky Basketballet, okay,
Speaker 1: and they won by twenty five. I just that's where
Speaker 1: you go, man, they really know what they're How many
Speaker 1: times have we been saying how many years? How many decades?
Speaker 1: Do we go? Man? They really know what they're doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do, but they have to. There was a walk
Speaker 1: on who scored four points in the final thirty seconds
Speaker 1: and that's the reason why it went the that's the
Speaker 1: better dry heavi. Oh it's it's bad. Yeah, I mcclubbing bad.
Speaker 1: I love when the walk ons come on that. Those
Speaker 1: are my people. That was me oh, I'd be firing away.
Speaker 1: So you if you make a walk on you Kentucky,
Speaker 1: you would have shot at ey chance, you guy every time,
Speaker 1: every time, you know, when you see those guys come in,
Speaker 1: they've been practicing all year long, and then they got
Speaker 1: to throw a crisp bounce pass to somebody and you're thinking, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm getting in the books with a shot. I don't care,
Speaker 1: might be over one. Gotta get a shot up there,
Speaker 1: all right? Age seven seven three d P Show Email
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Speaker 1: the triggers all fired up. If you're watching on Peacock,
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes from now. We decided we were going to
Speaker 1: have Thanksgiving today, so next Wednesday if we have meet
Speaker 1: Friday because we won't be working Thursday and Friday. I
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Speaker 1: wondering why we're having turkey, it's a little separation there.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd, the fantastic idea. By your thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you, we got our pull question for the Fay
Speaker 1: Show for jeff An Guinny coming up. We want to
Speaker 1: know if you had to pick one team coming out
Speaker 1: of the West right now, the only three choices I'm
Speaker 1: giving him are the Warriors, the Suns, and the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Lebron might come back tonight. The other question on the
Speaker 1: side of the glasses, if you had to bet on
Speaker 1: one team today to reach the championship, would you take
Speaker 1: the Lakers or Bill Balichick and the Patriots? Right now?
Speaker 1: When did we have this discussion? You weren't involved, Yes, Paul,
Speaker 1: this was my idea and I passed it to Andrew
Speaker 1: because in case it went poorly, I thought you could
Speaker 1: blame it on him. People are really hot on the
Speaker 1: Patriots right now and down on the Lakers. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I had they crossed expectations. Well, the Patriots, I think,
Speaker 1: have exceeded expectations by a lot of people, whereas the
Speaker 1: Lakers haven't come close to what people think they're going
Speaker 1: to be. How much confidence do I have? Um? I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are are a playoff team, not a
Speaker 1: super Bowl team. I think the Lakers can win a championship.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they will, but but they
Speaker 1: can win one. Patriots, I don't. I don't see them
Speaker 1: winning a championship. I don't see them getting to the
Speaker 1: AFC title game. I think they're good. I think they're good.
Speaker 1: They're they're solid, consistent, and maybe maybe they're overachieving. I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought they'd have ten wins this year, all right.
Speaker 1: They got seven so far. It seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: they would exceed that. Yeah, McClement, Well, the Warriors are
Speaker 1: coming back to earth a little dolly during the road.
Speaker 1: They only be Cleveland by like twenty or something. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you all have what forty something like that.
Speaker 1: They're showing their real colors now. Steph had twenty In
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Warriors outscored Cleveland thirty six to eight.
Speaker 1: Steph had nine three pointers. That's the fourth game with
Speaker 1: at least nine three pointers made already this season. That's
Speaker 1: tied for the fourth most such games in a season
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy nine, when they brought in the three
Speaker 1: point shot. Curry also owns the top three seasons and
Speaker 1: one of the four other seasons tied for fourth. Stat
Speaker 1: of the days of the day, the beast stat of
Speaker 1: the day stat of the day here comes that what
Speaker 1: stat the day by the way does the game mean
Speaker 1: more to Dallas in Kansas City or Kansas City hosting Dallas,
Speaker 1: because it feels like Kansas City needs to have a
Speaker 1: couple of back to back wins, like you got to
Speaker 1: have that. Hey, we blew out the Raiders and now
Speaker 1: you got Dallas coming, Like this could be one of
Speaker 1: those games with Dallas where Dallas becomes the team to
Speaker 1: beat in football. If Dallas beats Kansas City, if Kansas
Speaker 1: City beats Dallas, do we then have a question mark
Speaker 1: above Dallas going okay, maybe not as good as everybody thinks.
Speaker 1: Or do we say Kansas City Kansas City is the
Speaker 1: team to beat in the AFC? I mean it feels
Speaker 1: like that's your headline on Monday. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of headlines attached to that game, yes, Todd. And
Speaker 1: also since it's such a compressed division in the FC
Speaker 1: West compared to the NFC East, there's a little more
Speaker 1: breathing room right now. Anyway, for Dallas, the Chiefs, everything,
Speaker 1: everybody's like split by about a game to a game
Speaker 1: and a half or so. Thank you, Todd. Welcome, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. We'll talk to Jeff Van Gun
Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on the Lakers, and I'll ask
Speaker 1: him the question. I'll give you Durant or Steph Curry?
Speaker 1: Who you got? That'll be coming up next here Dan
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Speaker 1: More of your phone calls coming up. He's Jeff Van
Speaker 1: Gundi from the Mothership. He'll join Mark Jackson Ryan ruco
Speaker 1: calling tonight's mAb's Sons game. That's a ten Eastern on ESPN.
Speaker 1: The earlier game, the Lakers visit the Celtics. Mike Breen,
Speaker 1: Dorisburg and Cassidy Hubbard will be providing the coverage of
Speaker 1: that as Jeff joins us on the show. Good morning, Jeff,
Speaker 1: how are you today? Still makes me laugh every time
Speaker 1: you say, Mothership, I'm doing good well. I was wondering
Speaker 1: about as a coach, when do you when what's the
Speaker 1: earliest you think you can get an assessment of how
Speaker 1: good you think your team is going to be there
Speaker 1: in the season or how bad. I would say, you
Speaker 1: don't want to underreact, nor do you want to overreact.
Speaker 1: So I think you try to give yourself a quarter
Speaker 1: of the season in or around you know, twenty games.
Speaker 1: But now it's so hard Dan, because there's so many
Speaker 1: people that sit games out for injuries or for you know,
Speaker 1: personal reasons, that it's it's a lot harder to get
Speaker 1: a gauge of what you have because you never have
Speaker 1: your team. When do you think will be a fair
Speaker 1: starting point to assess the Lakers? Well, I think when
Speaker 1: James gets back and he plays, you know, ten games.
Speaker 1: And I also think because James has been out, people
Speaker 1: have overlooked Kendrick Nunn being out, and Kendrick Nunn will
Speaker 1: be a huge addition to their group defensive intensity, some
Speaker 1: speed and quickness which they lack throughout their roster. So
Speaker 1: I think when James and None get back and you
Speaker 1: see what they have and if you see, you know,
Speaker 1: how are they going to play with Westbrook, Davis, Carmelo,
Speaker 1: Anthony and James and how they fit around those four guys,
Speaker 1: and I would suspect they're probably going to stick with
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis for a majority minutes at the five. I
Speaker 1: think then you're gonna know, you know, are they a
Speaker 1: good team, a really good team or a championship level team.
Speaker 1: What do you do with the Russell Westbrooks style? If
Speaker 1: if you want to modify, slowdown, change or can you
Speaker 1: at this stage? No? I think you know Westbrook, for
Speaker 1: better or for worse, is committed to his his style
Speaker 1: of play. And I don't think you're going to change
Speaker 1: somebody's strengths at this You know, at this age, his
Speaker 1: strengths will remain his strengths. His non strengths will remain
Speaker 1: their non strengths. And I think what you want to
Speaker 1: do is maximize his strengths, try to minimize or hide
Speaker 1: the non strengths. And I think what's really interesting is
Speaker 1: how they're going to go about, Okay, when James has
Speaker 1: the ball or James and Davis earn pick and roll,
Speaker 1: what what do you want Westbrook to do? Do you
Speaker 1: want him to spot up and attack? Do you want
Speaker 1: him to spot up and shoot because he will be open.
Speaker 1: That's where teams are going to give support from defensively,
Speaker 1: and I think for the Lakers, they just have to
Speaker 1: decide what they think gives them their best chance. And
Speaker 1: I think when they get when Westbrook commits, even though
Speaker 1: it leads to some turnovers, to attacking off of on
Speaker 1: the second side, when he's on the week side, I
Speaker 1: think he create some good things and I think they
Speaker 1: need that sort of thrust to the basket. Would you
Speaker 1: want to coach him right now? You know what? Dan?
Speaker 1: When I interviewed for the Rockets job when he was
Speaker 1: still a member of the Rockets, and this was in
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and I wanted to speak to both Harden
Speaker 1: and Westbrook. Harden didn't make himself available. Westbrook did, and
Speaker 1: I had the best conversation with a player that I
Speaker 1: didn't know at all when I coached Westbrook. When I
Speaker 1: talked to Westbrook, I should say he was so forthright
Speaker 1: in what he thought, how he saw himself, his place
Speaker 1: in the game. I really appreciated his directness and his honesty,
Speaker 1: because sometimes in those situations it's easier to if you
Speaker 1: don't know somebody, just be sort of cliche ish and
Speaker 1: more passive aggressive. And I just I really appreciated I've
Speaker 1: always appreciated who Westbrook is off the floor. He does so,
Speaker 1: so many remarkable things. But in that one conversation I had,
Speaker 1: maybe it was like a forty five minute to an
Speaker 1: hour conversation, I just really appreciated his directness and and
Speaker 1: he was I don't want to say appreciative of my directness,
Speaker 1: but I think he. I think he liked a direct
Speaker 1: talk and straightforwardness. So it was a great conversation. And again,
Speaker 1: you don't know someone until you coach him, so it'd
Speaker 1: be impossible for me to answer your question, but I
Speaker 1: think from that conversation I would have enjoyed being around him.
Speaker 1: How do you not take Harden not wanting to talk
Speaker 1: to you as like, do you take it personally that
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to talk to you? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If he didn't want to just talk to me, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he wanted to participate any okay, okay,
Speaker 1: in the in the process, maybe he already knew he
Speaker 1: wanted out. I don't know, but you know, I just again,
Speaker 1: that's not a knock on heart, and he can do
Speaker 1: what he wants. But I just appreciate Westbrook's time and
Speaker 1: his his forthrightness very very much. We're talking to Jeff
Speaker 1: van Gundy. He's with Mark Jackson, Ryan Ruco. They got
Speaker 1: the MAVs and the Suns coming up tonight. Is Luca
Speaker 1: going to play? I would they listen to him as
Speaker 1: that doubtful, so I would say not, which you know,
Speaker 1: he came here to see Luca and Booker and Paul
Speaker 1: all the greatness, and it's a it's a bummer when
Speaker 1: you don't get that. But I thought the Mavericks held
Speaker 1: up well on Wednesday. They just didn't have enough offense
Speaker 1: down the stretch when Phoenix turned it up. I think
Speaker 1: Steve her one of his toughest jobs this year. Coach
Speaker 1: is trying to come up with new ways to describe
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's greatness. Yeah, he should not be able to.
Speaker 1: I think Dan, what you should throw down the gauntlet.
Speaker 1: He cannot use the same adjective all years. So if
Speaker 1: you start with superb, you've got to come up with
Speaker 1: something else in the next game, because I think that
Speaker 1: would be as interesting as watching. Like I think people
Speaker 1: are so used to now seeing Curry take and make
Speaker 1: like these impossible three point shots from distance defensive pressure
Speaker 1: like that, we've become like almost numb to how great
Speaker 1: this is. This is something that Will I can easily say,
Speaker 1: will never be replicated. The movement off the ball, the
Speaker 1: ability to shoot, you know, against great defense, be able
Speaker 1: to shoot on the move, off the dribble, like, he
Speaker 1: has completely revolutionized the game, and we're never going to
Speaker 1: see something like this, so we better appreciate it. Well,
Speaker 1: I wondered, and I sometimes overstate my love for Steph
Speaker 1: Curry just because I understand that that range, shooting like that,
Speaker 1: and if you're not necessarily quick or big or strong,
Speaker 1: can't jump. But he he's changed the game. How many
Speaker 1: players in the history of the sport can you say
Speaker 1: have truly changed the game? Well, you're right, just a handful,
Speaker 1: because there's been like so many great players. But see,
Speaker 1: I think Curry's a better athlete than people give him
Speaker 1: credit for. You know, the hand eye coordination, the agility,
Speaker 1: the balance, the rhythm as you know Dan as a
Speaker 1: great shooter, the rhythm to that shot, to be able
Speaker 1: to get it up with the soft touch from that distance,
Speaker 1: you can't be anything other than a great athlete to
Speaker 1: do that. So um, he has. He's changed the game,
Speaker 1: and a lot of guys try to emulate how he played,
Speaker 1: and oftentimes you see just god awful shots being shot
Speaker 1: in the NBA because they're shooting Steph Curry shots that
Speaker 1: only you know he should be allowed to shoot, you know,
Speaker 1: so not every it's not equal opportunity to take the
Speaker 1: shots he takes because only he can make them at
Speaker 1: the efficiency level that he does. You're the head coach.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you Steph Curry's career, everything that's
Speaker 1: gone on, Kadie's career, everything that's gone on, and then
Speaker 1: you get them the rest of their career as well.
Speaker 1: Who do you want see? You know, like you're you're
Speaker 1: like my wife trying to give me like me in
Speaker 1: and like like make people hate me. Like how about this, Dan,
Speaker 1: you pick first and I'll take second, And I don't
Speaker 1: care who you pick because I'm gonna be really happy
Speaker 1: with my pick. I never knew you would back away.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dwayne Wade answered it. Who did he take? No,
Speaker 1: you answer and then I'll tell you who he took,
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna You're not good at all. I'm
Speaker 1: not married to you. Only my wife can box me
Speaker 1: and my I. He took Steph Curry and I took
Speaker 1: Steph Curry as well. Okay, Well, then to balance it
Speaker 1: out I'll take Durant because if you guys want like
Speaker 1: it's a it's a reasonable like, how can you not
Speaker 1: want to coach Steph Curry? Think about what Steve Kerr got.
Speaker 1: He got them both in their prime. That should be illegal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I watched Durant this year. You know, because
Speaker 1: we've talked so much about how great Curry is, But
Speaker 1: I watched Durant this year. When I was a part
Speaker 1: of the Olympic team, I'd never really been around him.
Speaker 1: I actually been around him two times in my career
Speaker 1: the Olympic team. When I watched him work out, Dan,
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's a machine his work. He
Speaker 1: didn't need a coach there. He knew exactly what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do. He worked at a pace that was
Speaker 1: game like, which is unusual. A lot of guys to
Speaker 1: stay out on the court a long time but don't
Speaker 1: get a lot accomplished. Durant was just the opposite. He
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty five minutes full speed every repetition and
Speaker 1: it didn't hurt that the ball always goes in the basket, right. So,
Speaker 1: and then the other time was when I was coaching
Speaker 1: the rockets and stop me if I've told you this.
Speaker 1: But we had training camp at the University of Texas
Speaker 1: and it turns out to be Durant's only year in college.
Speaker 1: So we're down there in early October and we go
Speaker 1: to our first practice and it's a ten o'clock practice.
Speaker 1: We got there at nine. I have no idea who
Speaker 1: this kid is on the floor, but he is going
Speaker 1: through a workout like full speed. Okay, you know, he
Speaker 1: looks like a talented young guy. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what his name is. We practice, he's there the whole time.
Speaker 1: Then after we're getting off the court and milling around
Speaker 1: before we leave, he comes back on the court and
Speaker 1: works again. We come back before our second practice that
Speaker 1: day at six, he's on the court. He then watches
Speaker 1: us practice, and then he comes back on the court again.
Speaker 1: After he did that the whole week we were there,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is an absolute machine. I learned
Speaker 1: his name. I mean, now, I don't know when the
Speaker 1: heck his classes were, but I know when we were
Speaker 1: there for those seven days, I have never seen a
Speaker 1: guy work like that. It was impressive. And you know what, whatever,
Speaker 1: how many ever years it is later, seventeen years later
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, he was doing the same exact
Speaker 1: thing in a shorter amount of time on courts in Japan,
Speaker 1: and it was you know, he loves the game, he's
Speaker 1: improved with his passing, his handle, and I mean literally
Speaker 1: an impossible guy to guard. And so right now, you know,
Speaker 1: you got Curry, you got Yokis, and you got Durant
Speaker 1: and they are all having these incredible years. Has anybody
Speaker 1: broached the topic with you of the an NFT. You
Speaker 1: know the picture thing the NBA is doing where you're
Speaker 1: holding on to Alonzo Morning's leg and you could sell
Speaker 1: that and people are paying big money for these NBA moments.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what that means. What does that mean? Like,
Speaker 1: isn't the picture out there? Anybody could have it if
Speaker 1: they wanted it. I don't know why you'd want it.
Speaker 1: But McLevin explained NFT to coach so that people involved
Speaker 1: have exclusive rights. And you had the pictures out there,
Speaker 1: but you could have ownership of exclusive rights to it.
Speaker 1: Basically you can limit the supply. You're the only one
Speaker 1: who is the official Jeff Van Gundy Alonzo Morning Lake photo.
Speaker 1: Ah well, well, that's what a great moment to try
Speaker 1: to own my temporary insanity. See that's as stupid as
Speaker 1: what I proposed the other day to Mark Jackson. So
Speaker 1: think if this makes any business sense to you, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're europe business guy. I saw that the Lakers the
Speaker 1: Staples Center changed their name to Crypto dot Com, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got paid this huge amount. What if I
Speaker 1: changed my name legal to Crypto dot com or something
Speaker 1: or Taco Bell, let's say, And so Mike Breen when
Speaker 1: he comes on the year says, I'm here, this is
Speaker 1: Mike Brain with Mark Jackson and Taco Bell. Do you
Speaker 1: think they would pay me two and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars a year to change my legal name? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: let's get it done. Let's get it because like tonight,
Speaker 1: let's say Ryan Ruco introduces, you know, Mark, Mark Jackson
Speaker 1: and Jeff Van Crypto yes, or coach Crypto ya, I'll
Speaker 1: go like Coach Prime, like Dion Sanders Coach Crypto. Yes.
Speaker 1: I think there's money to be made there. See. And
Speaker 1: I think all broadcasters should change their name legal name
Speaker 1: and then put it on their Their legal name could
Speaker 1: go on their jacket, because how can the mothership say
Speaker 1: I can't put my legal name on on my jacket?
Speaker 1: Right when they come to an on camera. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that, even Dan, this is how how lonely
Speaker 1: you get in the hotel them. How about you know,
Speaker 1: the name, image and likeness. Yeah, for UM college, what
Speaker 1: if all those players just legally change their name to
Speaker 1: you know, at center Taco Bell, at forward McDonald's you know, Indies,
Speaker 1: it's your point guard like and at quarterback Arby's. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that's how if I became a college coach,
Speaker 1: I'd have all my kids change their legal names and
Speaker 1: then you know, change them back when you go to
Speaker 1: the NBA or into the real world, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm onto something better than the the Lonzo
Speaker 1: mourning temporary insanity where I looked like a fool and
Speaker 1: I deserve to be beaten, Like they should have stopped
Speaker 1: the game right there and dropped a ring down and
Speaker 1: made me in Morning fight and just have mourning just
Speaker 1: bummel me, you know for my coming on the court.
Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to a Lonzo Morning about that
Speaker 1: where you're holding on to him like a ball and chain?
Speaker 1: Now you know what you like back in those times,
Speaker 1: like we played the Heat four straight years in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and they went to the final game all four years,
Speaker 1: and so and the and the regular season games we
Speaker 1: played four times a year, and they were just like brutal,
Speaker 1: So you know, you developed this like sense of like dislike.
Speaker 1: I mean, my brother was on the other staff, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not so keen on him. During the
Speaker 1: weeks we're playing in Miami, right, so the Morning thing happens,
Speaker 1: and I have never spoken to Morning in my life,
Speaker 1: you know. And so the next year, I just was
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be the All Star team coach, and
Speaker 1: I'm like dreading having to coach you know, Morning in
Speaker 1: the All Star Game because you know, like you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to like talk to him a and B.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna have to like you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to say something about being like a clown holding onto
Speaker 1: his leg. And so I was so grateful. We were
Speaker 1: heading out to media day and I hadn't seen him yet,
Speaker 1: and he came behind me and grabbed me and hugged
Speaker 1: me from behind. I didn't know who it was, and
Speaker 1: it was him, and he broke the ice and he
Speaker 1: was so um I don't know what the word would be,
Speaker 1: but he was just so nice like about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Where he you know, he could have made me feel
Speaker 1: even worse than a he did about what I did.
Speaker 1: So I'll be forever grateful for his kindness in that moment.
Speaker 1: And then it took me about after the game. It
Speaker 1: took me about twelve minutes to get back to my antikeeat.
Speaker 1: Have fun tonight there, Crypto, and that will be the
Speaker 1: MAVs and the Sons. That'll be a ten Eastern on
Speaker 1: the Mothership. Great to talk to you, Jeff, Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us, all right, Dan, take care that he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of downtime on the road. But yeah, Jeff
Speaker 1: van Crypto, I like it, or Jeff or Jeff Crypto
Speaker 1: dot com Taco. But there'll be a lot of players though,
Speaker 1: in college football who'd have the same name. Yeah, Arbi
Speaker 1: had a you know, Sonic had an unbelievable game. I
Speaker 1: wonder what it would cost though, to get somebody like that.
Speaker 1: A broadcaster comes on, like Troy Aikman last night. What
Speaker 1: if Joe Buck all of a sudden said, you know,
Speaker 1: joining us now is Troy Shakeshack. Troy, Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a neighbor. A couple of years ago, he had a
Speaker 1: minivan and it was wrapped and I think like a
Speaker 1: Mountain Dew or one of those coke zeros or one
Speaker 1: of those, and he gets the car for free. He
Speaker 1: has to drive at a minimum like a thousand miles
Speaker 1: a month, and he gets the car for a year
Speaker 1: for free, and it's a way to save money. But
Speaker 1: would you drive a car wrapped all years free? Depends
Speaker 1: on what it was wrapped in, like mountain dew or
Speaker 1: some product, some soda. I think that's what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what kind of car is it? It was more of
Speaker 1: a minivan type vehicle. Well, let's say my car, my Mercedes,
Speaker 1: if I had that mountain dew green wrapped, give you
Speaker 1: the first one in your flock in the Mountain denversades. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'd do that in two seconds. I'd do it here. Finally, Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I can see Tyler the moderator. He is out there
Speaker 1: and they are taking taking the turkey off the trigger.
Speaker 1: How about I shut up and we go outside and
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Speaker 1: The full question, what we learn? What's in store from Monday?
Speaker 1: NFL games coming up this weekend, this day in sports history,
Speaker 1: and we're having our Thanksgiving today, so we don't have
Speaker 1: back to back Thanksgiving days on Wednesday and Thursday next week.
Speaker 1: But Tyler the moderator did a wonderful job. And a
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Speaker 1: Hey Greg, what's on your mind today? Hey Dan, thanks
Speaker 1: for taking my call. Sure, I just wanted to call
Speaker 1: and let you guys know that after over a year
Speaker 1: of waiting for the Stones concert to be rescheduled, I
Speaker 1: finally got to go Monday night with my wife to
Speaker 1: ford Field to see him. And I couldn't leave your
Speaker 1: audience with that last Stones review from old Man River
Speaker 1: who called and said the guitars were too loud and
Speaker 1: you couldn't hear mixed vocals. I guess maybe in his
Speaker 1: defense it was it was maybe a bad mix or something,
Speaker 1: or I don't know, maybe his ear plugs are in
Speaker 1: backwards or something. But I thought it was awesome. I mean,
Speaker 1: my wife was blown away. I don't know that she
Speaker 1: was expecting that. She didn't think that those guys would
Speaker 1: be able to bring it at their age. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you Mick floated around for two hours straight and
Speaker 1: Keith and Ronnie Wood those guitars were just blistering, I mean,
Speaker 1: unbelievable good. I'm glad. I I you know. I tell people,
Speaker 1: if you get a chance, go see these these artists,
Speaker 1: you know Neil Young or Bob Seeger. You know I
Speaker 1: mentioned this about Tom Petty, uh John Fogerty. If you
Speaker 1: get a chance, go see them, even the who you know,
Speaker 1: they're not the same as they once were. But you don't,
Speaker 1: I think, want to pass up those opportunities to see
Speaker 1: some of these bands who have lasted this long, I
Speaker 1: mean decades, true test of time. Here Ryan and Honolulu,
Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, i'men what's on your mind? Ryan Hopping met Friday.
Speaker 1: Dan enjoyed a spash cock, Thank you, thank you. I
Speaker 1: got some Patriots fuckings mark headlines for you. Okay, Patriots
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Speaker 1: spilling and smelling of roses? Was a rosens was a thing,
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Speaker 1: Let's rally here, Let's rally Kyle bennoying Matt Ryan so
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Speaker 1: seventy nine, Nolan Ryan became the highest paid player in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball history. What was he making a year?
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy nine? Three million, one point two five
Speaker 1: million dollars highest paid player in baseball? Nineteen four Dwight
Speaker 1: Gooden and the New York Mets, at twenty years old,
Speaker 1: became the youngest major league pitcher ever to be named
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year in the National League. That's it, okay,
Speaker 1: final results of the pull question me club for our
Speaker 1: three We did another. Who's coming out of the West?
Speaker 1: Eighty nine Warriors now four percent Lakers, by the way.
Speaker 1: On this day in twenty nineteen, Lebron became the first
Speaker 1: player in NBA history to record a triple double against
Speaker 1: every NBA team. Thought that might have been a stand
Speaker 1: of the day, but none. It doesn't matter now, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees will join us on the program on Monday,
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer will join us coming up as well.
Speaker 1: You got the Big Game, you got the Cowboys, you
Speaker 1: got the Chiefs, you got a couple other games of
Speaker 1: note this weekend. Cincinnati at Vegas, Washington at Caroline with
Speaker 1: Cam Newton coming back home, Pittsburgh at the Chargers on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. A lot of a lot of games as
Speaker 1: far as a lot of storylines there. Let's go around
Speaker 1: the room what we learned on this award nominated program. Tonn.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Jeff Van Gundy would be willing
Speaker 1: to change his legal into Taco Bell or perhaps coach Crypto,
Speaker 1: especially for like two and a half million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: He's funny and he is he's goofy, but he's smart.
Speaker 1: He's a great guest. Mclovin. If the Ravens had drafted
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn, you would have had Joe Flacco on today
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