1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is This is the Miller Light Cowboys Hour, supported 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: by Albertson and Omni Hotels and Resources. Brought to you 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: by Miller Light, the only beer of the Cowboys. It's 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Miller Tutt, Albertson's and Tom Thumb, the official supermarket and 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: pharmacy of the Dallas Cowboys. Choose VA Veterans get the 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: benefits you've burned. Visit Choose dot ba dot com and 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percenter more 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: on car and shirts. Now your hosts, Shannon Gross and 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: brag Shan and welcome everybody. It's the Cowboys Hour, and 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: it's Victory Monday. Yeah, let's go. Almost forgot because yesterday 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: was Victory Sunday. Yeah, oh that was crazy. But here 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: we are. It's Victory Monday. And here we are in 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: our regular stop on Monday night, except not in a 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: place that we want to be. Thanks to COVID, we 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: are limited to being virtual on this program for the 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: rest of the season, much like the football team is 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: in most respects. So Shannon and I are here in 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: the in the luxurious Cowboys podcast studio Warm Podcasting. It's warm, 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: It's it's magnificently appointed. It's very well lit. I can 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: tell you that it's highly fumigated. We got plexiglass everywhere 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: and then in his own little safe space. We are 22 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: just delighted to have one of my favorite men on 23 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: this team this year, defensive tackle Carlos Watkins and Big Los. 24 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Am I happy to have you here. Thanks for being 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: with us. Man presets you our guys haven't man. Now 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: we'll remind folks once again, in this virtual format, you 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: will hear a slight delay because it takes a moment 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: for the signal to go from us to Carlos and 29 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: then from him back to us, So there'll be maybe 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: a little pause while we wait for everybody to hear everybody, 31 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: and we are always delighted to have you wherever you 32 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: are listening around the Dallas Cowboys Radio network and for 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: those of you who are watching whenever you are watching 34 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: streamed on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Carlos can't see us, 35 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: but we can all see him, So waved everybody. Lose 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: waved everybody so they can see you. There is Big Carlos. 37 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: Carlos and one of the is it twenty two? One 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: of the twenty two touchdowns scorers on the Dallas Cowboys 39 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: this year. Just as just as I think I remember 40 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: hearing you say in Oxnard, watch me now, I'm gonna 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: get one this year. I did I hear you say 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: that that I do, I remember that correctly. You probably 43 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: you probably did. Honestly. You know I'm always talking our 44 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: manifest things, so you know that's just me, So you 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: probably did hear. Oh, it's this. We had Neville on here, 46 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Nevill Gallibour last week. We were talking about speaking things 47 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: into into being and so there you go, that's exactly 48 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Okay, So here we are, here, 49 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: we are going into the playoffs. And I was struck 50 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: by something Mike McCarthy said today. It made me think 51 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: of something we heard him say on Hard Knocks, which 52 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: and LS you may remember the team's speech. He was 53 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: very animated, which I guess he gets with you guys 54 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: from time to time. Does not get that way with us. 55 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: But I remember seeing the snippet on a Hard Knocks 56 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: where he said, you know, we're not here to make 57 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs, We're not here to win a division championship. 58 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: You remember the speech, right, he said, we're going We're 59 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: going all We're here to win a championship. So today, 60 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: he said at his Monday press conference, he said, you 61 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: know this is we're not surprised to be here now, 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: this is what we were planning for. This is this 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: is not a surprise to us when it's been Now, 64 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: you've been in the playoffs a couple times before with Houston, 65 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: but in when when it has been the emphasis from 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: the very beginning, like it was with coach McCarthy, does 67 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: it does it change the exhilaration of being in the 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: playoffs any h nah? I mean because what he said 69 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: is the truth. I mean longest from the start, we 70 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: knew what the goal was, you know, but you know, 71 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: you you do have get yeah, your number one goal, 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: and then you have other goals. You know, you follow 73 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: through to get to that goal. And that's kind of 74 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: how we took it, you know. Um, the mindset of 75 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: you know, what's the one way to eat an elephant? 76 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: You know they say one by that at a time, 77 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: and that's literally the only way we can. You know, 78 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: that's literally the only way you can. So that's kind 79 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: of the mindset, you know, we take but we know 80 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: what the goal is. Though you were one of the 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: veterans who played quite a few snaps Saturday night in Philadelphia. 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Tell everybody, because as you well know, there are a 83 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: lot of people who said, we don't play anybody, don't 84 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: risk anybody getting hurt. It looked like as a team 85 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: you got a lot out of playing that game. What 86 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: do you think as a veteran that you got as 87 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: a group out of playing that game Saturday night? Um, 88 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: I feel like it was. It was. It's always things 89 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: you can work on. And I know, like one of 90 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: the things as a D line that uh we turns 91 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: ourselves was you know, to communicate, you know, and and 92 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: I think you know, we probably didn't do it as 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: well as we were capable of. But it's just little 94 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: things like that that I feel like we can take 95 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: it to the playoffs. Just challenging yourself, you know in 96 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: these type games, you know, to get your stef ready, 97 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: you know for the playoffs. But you know, as a 98 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: whole defense and as a whole team, you know, when 99 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: we walk in the field, we start on the field 100 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: to win. So the mindset and nothing like that change. 101 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: We just charge ourselves just like communicate or EXTQ better. 102 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: You know. That was really just the main focus Carlos, 103 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: you got the rare Sunday off during the season, although 104 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: it seems like it's getting more and more common with 105 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They're getting more than one Sunday off with 106 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: the bye week and the two Thursday night games. And 107 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: but and Brad asked this question earlier in the season 108 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: to one of the guys. I don't remember who it was. 109 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: And it is a fascinating question when you talk to 110 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: pro athletes, because some guys, when they're away from the 111 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: facility and they're not playing, they just want to get 112 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: as far away from football and the sport as possible 113 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: and unplugged and unwind. And then there's some guys that 114 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: are just football nerds and they will sit there and 115 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: watch college, high school, NFL. How did you spend your 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Sunday off? Did you relax and get away from football? 117 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Did you watch all the crazy this that was the 118 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: NFL yesterday and all the games? How did you spend yesterday? Oh? Yeah, 119 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm that football narrative, like I can't get away from it, 120 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Like I love a game. Um, but I rested up 121 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: until like twelve, you know, as soon as the first 122 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: game came on, you know, I tuned Dan, I think, Uh, 123 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I was really wanting to watch the Jacksonville and the 124 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Coast game, but I couldn't get it on TV. So 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: I think it was the Panthers and the Bucks playing, 126 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and I can't uh think of who was playing before that. No, 127 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: that was I was watching. That was the first game, Carlos. 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I got to teach you about the Sunday ticket. Brother, 129 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I gotta teach you about the Sunday ticket. Yeah, yeah, 130 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, but he didn't get 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: his money's worth. Third point of it, we like, I'm 132 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: not gonna get to take advantage of it, like you said, 133 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm always playing on Sunday, so it's 134 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: not like I get to, you know, watch it. Well, 135 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: so I never really liked seen it as a big 136 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: issue again it but well let me just say first, 137 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I should definitely look into it. First of all, I 138 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: love and I'm not surprised. I love my defensive lineman 139 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: wanting to be deep into the football that those guys 140 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: usually are. And you know, when you're playing, I'm broadcasting. 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: So I spent whatever it was, you know, one hundred 142 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars or whatever it was on the Sunday 143 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: ticket and Bade Laufenberg, who does the games with me, 144 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: texted me during the La San Francisco game yesterday. He said, 145 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: are you watching Rams and the forty nine Ers? And 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: I took a picture because I had that up on 147 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: my TV and then on my iPad, I had my 148 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Sunday ticket and I was watching the Cardinals and the Seahawks. 149 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: So I set him a picture. I'm watching both of 150 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: these things. See that's and right then? Lois that whatever 151 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty or two hundred, whatever that was, 152 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: it was worth it right in that moment not to 153 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: have to miss right. So what what? What did you 154 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: then watch the Did you then watch the La San 155 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Francisco game after that? Yeah? Yeah, I pretty much tuned 156 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: in all the games. I really wasn't doing that but 157 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: watching the games. Um. Seen that game. That was a 158 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: great game to watch. Um. Then I followed up with 159 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Charges, and I was really hoping 160 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: to end it in the time. You know, that was 161 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of why I was wanting to watch the Jacksonville 162 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: and the Colts so I can so I can watch 163 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: this game and see high I was gonna play out. 164 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Why did you want it to end? In the tie. 165 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't know, and I just thought 166 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: it was just running the weird things and I was like, 167 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and it actually came down to a point to where, 168 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: uh it could have it should have ended in the time, honestly, 169 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know. I don't know. I was 170 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: talking to my cousin earlier that day and uh, he 171 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of said, he was like, they're gonna make it. Uh, 172 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna play it, but they're gonna make it end 173 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: in the tito. And it almost did though, So that 174 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: was that was crazy to see. But it was just 175 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: one of the things I just wanted to see happen. 176 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it was crazy. It was, it was, and 177 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: you're right, it was one of the most bizarre days 178 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: to have the whole season come down to literally the 179 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: last play in the season to decide the last team 180 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But one of the reasons I asked you, Carlos, 181 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: if you watched the La San Francisco game, was you know, 182 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: all of the people they run the could they run 183 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: the computer projections, and so it was like seventy four 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: percent chance that Dallas was going to play Arizona again, 185 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: which is why I had the Arizona Seattle game on 186 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: my iPad and then what do you know? That's sports 187 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: defies the projections sometimes. But you're a little familiar with that, 188 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: aren't you. Oh yeah, definitely been on there for a while. 189 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: Did you have a preference? I'd not think I know 190 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: the answer to this, but did you have a preference 191 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: of who you wanted to play in this first round? 192 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Did you want to get a little revenge against Arizona 193 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: or did you you know, is there anybody that you 194 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: wanted to line up against this coming weekend for one 195 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 1: reason or another? Now it really didn't matter. You know, 196 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: I would like to get back at Arizon, you know, 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: let end a bad tasting them out, But you know, 198 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: it really didn't matter. You know, it didn't matter who 199 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: we played. So whoever learned up in front of us, 200 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: you know that I go is to win, So don't matter. 201 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: One of the early narratives, and dan Quinn addressed this 202 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: today when he met with reporters. One of the early 203 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: narratives for this game is how well San Francisco runs 204 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the ball and can the Dallas run defense stand up 205 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: to that? And dan Quinn today, Carlos, he mentioned you, 206 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: and he mentioned a few other guys. He said, these 207 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: guys are guys Neville and Carlos and Osa and these 208 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: guys on the interior. Now they're going to have to 209 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: be they're gonna have to stand up to this and 210 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: they're going to be an integral part of stopping the 211 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: running game. Do you have any early thoughts about all that? 212 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean that's I mean, it's truthfully 213 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: our job very week, So you got to go in 214 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: what the mind said. You know, games, you know, work, 215 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: they play out differently than what you you know, you 216 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: game playing for sometimes, but that's that's our mindset anyway, 217 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, to stop the run and you got guys 218 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: on the back end, it's gonna get the ball back 219 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: for the offense, you know. So that's kind of how 220 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I look at this. It's my job and it's an 221 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: honor and uh and the privilege you know, to be 222 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: challenged with this. So you know, if I if I, 223 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: if I do my job, we win. We're gonna take 224 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: a break, and uh, I think we're just starting to 225 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: get a little taste of why. Carlos Watkins is one 226 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: of my favorite favorite guys on this team. A great personality, 227 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: great leader, in his own way and a part of 228 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: a really integral part of what this defense has done 229 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: to launch the Cowboys into the playoffs. And we will 230 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: also have I need to warn you lost the one 231 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: of the most interesting parts of any program is when 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross takes a deep dive into the Wikipedia page 233 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: of our guests to see how much of it is accurate. 234 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: And that's coming up for you. So just steal yourself 235 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: against that because we're going to take our first break. 236 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: And just just so you know, and we want you 237 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: to know that when it comes time to shop for 238 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: tailgate favorites, go to Albertson's and Tom Thumb. 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I'm Brad Sham along with 247 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross and our very special guest Cowboys defensive tackle 248 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, big part of the defense that has catapulted 249 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys into this playoff run. And you are part 250 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: of a group of guys. I have asked a number 251 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: of your teammates this, but I really respect your opinion 252 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: and you've been You've been around as a veteran. I 253 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: think Jay Ron was the first one we talked to 254 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: about this. There were eight of you veteran free agents 255 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: who signed and made the team at the beginning of 256 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: the year, eight who had been with different teams with 257 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: all the other rookies and everything else, and then the 258 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: returning veterans. But for eight of you, and then Brent 259 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Urban got hurt. So he's about the only one of 260 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: the eight who has not been a fixture, either as 261 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: a starter or as a key rotation piece, and as 262 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: a veteran. I'm really interested, Carlos and your thoughts about 263 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: how it is that this defense became so close and 264 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: jelled so much with so many guys coming from different 265 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: professional cultures and environments to mix in with the rookies 266 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: and the returning veterans. How did that happen. Well, one, 267 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: I think Dum and the coaches in the staff did 268 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: a great job, you know, doing their research and finding 269 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: the right players. But most importantly, I felt like, you know, 270 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: as I got there, guys, you know, they embraced me. 271 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: I mean it was you know a lot of a 272 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: lot of new faces with the rookies plus the creators anyway, 273 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: but far as you know, me being a D lineman, 274 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: the guys that were already there, you know, they embraced me. Um. 275 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: But uh, I felt like we knew, uh as time 276 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: was going, like and OTAs and everything, we've seen how 277 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: talented we were as a as a as a group, 278 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: as a defense, you know, especially like UM and I 279 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: and I think like, you know, seeing that and they 280 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: seeing us like it kinda made everybody pick up their 281 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: level of play, you know, And I think that was 282 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: like a big part, you know, and like while we're 283 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: so good because we're we're talented and and everybody has 284 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: to compete, Like you're not getting on the field just 285 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: because you just got online. You really got to go 286 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: out there and compete. And another major factor was, you know, 287 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: the brotherhood. We became so close, you know, UM, A 288 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of dinners, just really hanging out of the locker 289 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: room talking a lot, and it feels like a real 290 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: brotherhood in the locker room, and I feel like that 291 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: place a major piece. So you talk about you, you 292 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: looked and a number of you have said this, almost 293 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: everyone that you saw in OTAs that you were talented. 294 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Now we're talking about a team that defensively last year 295 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: was just flat and not good. Obviously coach Quinn and 296 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: the other new coaches who came in had a lot 297 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: to do with the change. But when you're in OTAs, 298 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: you're only in shorts. It's not like you're hitting. There's 299 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: only so much you can simulate plays, and you're in meetings. 300 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: You guys see things we never see. What did you know? Then? 301 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: That's really early. It seems to me to look around 302 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: and say, oh, look we're good. Nobody knows it, but 303 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: we're good, and you have you can't do anything that 304 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: resembles what real football is at that stage. What was it? 305 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: What was the tip off? And that's like one of 306 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the main reasons, because like, you know, football is a 307 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: physical or you know OTAs, you know, you kind of 308 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: died down on the physicality and everything. Um, so you 309 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: really get to see a lot of athleticism, you know, 310 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: especially up front as a D line, like you know, 311 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: if you're able to win a pass rush and OTAs 312 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: when you really can't bull rush, then you you know, 313 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: you know guys you know have some special about them. 314 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: Um and then you know coaches challenging us to fly 315 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: around and you get to you just get to see everything. 316 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, like you might not get to get to 317 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: see the physical part, but just know like by seeing 318 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: the athleticism and the plays they were making, then um, 319 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: it just it really kind of gave us the heads 320 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: up on like the in the direction where we're heading, 321 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: like far as the group and talent. And here's the 322 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to ask you, and I asked 323 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy this today. Um, you've got a bunch of rookies. 324 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: Now they're not rookies anymore because they've they've played sixteen 325 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: seventeen games, but they are they've ever done this. You've 326 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: been on two teams that made the playoffs in Houston. 327 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: And if one of these rookies comes up to you, 328 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: or even not even a rookie second year guy like 329 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: if if Neville or Alsa, one of those guys comes 330 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: up to you and says Bohannah and says, Los, this 331 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: is everybody says. The playoffs is so much more intense. 332 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Tell me what's different? Tell me what I am fixing 333 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: the experience that I have never experienced before. What's going 334 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: to be different? What do you say to them if 335 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: they ask you that? Uh, Like that's something like in 336 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: the d line room. But you know, I would tell 337 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the guys like, you know, you know, before we even 338 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: got to the playoffs and said we need to go 339 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: ahead and start to in steal a mindset of like 340 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, win and go home. Because that's really the 341 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: only difference. Like well, I could say, like in the playoffs, 342 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: teams do get there. I mean they're in the playoff 343 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: for a reason. They're a good team. Like you got 344 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: to have the mindset we try to instill early on 345 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: before we got to the playoffs. Just it's when to 346 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: go home. That's the really main difference. But like over 347 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the season, if you kind of have that mindset and 348 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: it's still you know, into yourself, you know, early and 349 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: let nothing really changes because it's like, you know, the 350 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: game plan is to always win and that's a told whatever, 351 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Like I say, whatever you feel like you need to 352 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: do to get better this week, or you need to 353 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: challenge yourself to uh to help you, you know, improve 354 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: this week, or anything. But I don't I don't really 355 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: think the mindset should really change, just but just knowing 356 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you know it's when to go home. 357 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: But I don't want to add any more pressure on them. 358 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: But it's the truth. So's that's the only thing that 359 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: really changes. Nothing should really change as far as the 360 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: work in the process throughout the week, for the for 361 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: the game on. But so I tell him nothing, nothing 362 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: really changes. It's just it's just a it's just a game. 363 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: You just got to be on point that, you know, Shannon, 364 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: that is so interesting because what are the things that 365 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn said today. That's Carlos you obviously been listening 366 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: to DQ. He said in playoff football. In playoff football, 367 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: if you want to play good defense, he said, and 368 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: he said he's told this to Micaup but also everybody else. 369 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: So you don't need to put a cape on. You 370 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: just need to do your job and don't chase plays. 371 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: But when the play comes to you, then you better 372 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: be ready to make it. You better be right there 373 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: to make it and that what you're saying, Carlos, is 374 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: that's been the that's been what they've preached you all 375 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: year long. Right Yeah, yeah, sir, I mean that's has 376 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: been the mindset. I mean that's why I say nothing 377 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: really has a change. I mean, the level of focus. 378 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: If you can, if you can raise it, you should. 379 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: But it should be like that every week. So that's 380 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: that's why we just need to do our job. Just 381 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: take it his deck, all right, Well now it's it's 382 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: we've reached that point. We've reached that point in the program, Carlos, 383 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: where America is going to really get to know you 384 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: because this is the Miller Light moment of the show. 385 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: By the way, here's another reason, Carlos, I'm sorry that 386 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: we are doing this virtually instead of with our live audience, 387 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: because when we were able to do it with our 388 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: live audience, since this is the Miller Light moment, Shannon 389 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: would have a cold Miller light right by his side, 390 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: and every time something inaccurate popped up from your Wikipedia page, 391 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Shannon would take a pull on that cold Miller light. 392 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: And right now, all we've got for him is it 393 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: looks like a strawberry soda. So it's not quite the same, 394 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: but it's the Miller Light moment. It's the Miller Light moment. 395 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: It is Carlos, Welcome to the show. The second segment 396 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: of the show, and this is where I go down 397 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: your Wikipedia page and you tell me whether it is 398 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: correct or incorrect. And usually I have a good buzz 399 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: by the end of this segment. But I'll just drink 400 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: this strawberry soda and then we'll we'll be fine. So 401 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: you tell me if this is true or not true 402 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: as we go down the list. All right, all right, 403 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: all right. Carlos Watkins was born December fifth, nineteen ninety three. 404 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: You're an American football defensive tackle for the Dallas Cowboys 405 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: of the NFL and you played college football at Clemson. 406 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: How are we doing so far? Oh yeah, it's true. Okay, 407 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: good deal. And if any of this is inaccurate, it's 408 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: not my fault. This is if you don't know, you 409 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: can update this on your own. So if any of 410 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: it's wrong, I used to say I would go in 411 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: and update it, but I don't do that, so you 412 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: can go change it if you want to, so says 413 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: You attended Chase High School in Forest City, North Carolina, 414 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: and as a junior, you tallied fifty tackles twenty nine 415 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: for a loss in fourteen sacks. I mean, I couldn't 416 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, it might be a little 417 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: more than what I have, but that sounds about right 418 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: though far in sacks, okay, and the l I don't know. Okay, well, 419 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: that's understandable. It's been a little while since you were 420 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: in hype that just for the record, we would let 421 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: you take a sip of a middle of light right now, 422 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: right just on general purposes. Ye oh yeah, absolutely, might 423 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: even have a couple of sis. Okay, good. At one time, 424 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: I got you all right, here, here we go, I 425 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: got your Carlos all right, says as a senior, you 426 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: made fifteen sacks and one interception and five four fumbles. 427 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: So this interception thing goes way back with you. Man. 428 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: This isn't just some fluke that happened against the Saints. 429 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: This is like high school, right, yeah, started, I could 430 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: remember play like it was yesterday. Really, Carlos with the hands, 431 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: I tell you, I tell you what a B is 432 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: my guy. But you need to get ab out there 433 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: on the jugging machine with you because he needs to 434 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: learn how to catch those balls that hit him right 435 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: in the hands. That's my dude, though it's in my DNA, 436 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: it's shout. It says you played in the Shrine Bowl 437 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: and the US Army All American Bowl. You also lettered 438 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: in basketball, averaging over you average a double double. It 439 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: says over twenty one points and ten rebounds per game 440 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: as a junior. Yeah, basketball was my first love months 441 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: so I love playing basketball. You know what? After this 442 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: segment later in the show, I want to ask you 443 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: who you're starting five would be on the current Cowboys. 444 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: We asked that to uh Malik Hooker on our on 445 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: our daily podcast, and he gave me his starting five. 446 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: So I want to know yours says you. Uh, you 447 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: accepted a football scholarship from Clemson University. Yes, sir, who 448 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: else offered you? Did you have any other offers? Uh? 449 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Bammuff um notre dame U. I mean it was it 450 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: was a good bit of people who offered me. A 451 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of people in ACC couple a SEC schools like Georgia. 452 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: I can't really think all of them, but it was. 453 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: It was quite a few schools that gave me scholarship. Yeah. 454 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Some pretty uh, pretty decent schools there that you got 455 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: offers from, says. As a sophomore in twenty thirteen, you 456 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: played in three games with one start, before being involved 457 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: in a car crash which caused blood clots in both 458 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: of your legs and injured your season. M hmm. Yeah. Uh. 459 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: That had kind of set me back a little bit. Uh, 460 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: but uh, it's a part of the It's a part 461 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: of the journey in the story. Though. I feel like 462 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here today if I didn't go through that. Yeah, 463 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: I never knew that that. That's interesting. As a junior 464 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, you had here we go again. Gives 465 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: up some other stats, but here's the interesting one. You 466 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: had an interception which you returned for a touchdown. You 467 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: were named first team All acc and in a critical 468 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: game against the University of Notre Dame, you made a 469 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: game winning tackle on the last second two point conversion attempt. Yep. 470 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: That was That was one of the craziest games of 471 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: my college career right there. Yep uh. And then a 472 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: few more things. On January the ninth, twenty seventeen, you 473 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: were part of the Clemson team that defeated Alabama in 474 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen College Football Playoff National Championships. Yes, holding 475 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: up the number one for those of y'all just listening. Yeah, 476 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: let's see says. You were selected by the Houston Texans 477 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, one hundred forty second overall of 478 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The Texans acquired the pick 479 00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: by trading brock Oswaller to the Cleveland Browns. Yep, okay, sure, 480 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: And then two more things here. On March twenty second, 481 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, you signed with the Dallas Cowboys to 482 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: play as a defensive tackle in a four three defense. 483 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: And in two thousand and twenty one, also, you won 484 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: the Destined Fishing Rodeo by hauling in a three hundred 485 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: and twenty nine pound bullshark on the second day of 486 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: the tournament. Line. I can't, I can't. It sounds good, 487 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't take that all right, I 488 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: made that last one. I made the last one up 489 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: just so I can have a drink about Miller Lighte. 490 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: So Carlos, thank you for playing along with us. That's 491 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: been our Miller Lighte moment of the show. But there 492 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: is nothing fake about the blue marlin hanging on the 493 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: wall behind Carlos, and we'll talk about that when we 494 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: come back on the Cowboys Hour with Carlos Watkins. And 495 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: at the Omni Frisco Hotel, you can kick off your 496 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: stay at the official hotel, the Dallas Cowboys will style 497 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: stay where Carlos stays almost Saturday nights of home games. 498 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: Cool off in the elevated pool, saver upscale comfort food 499 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: at neighborhood services, and enjoy all the dining and entertainment 500 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: options the Star has to offer. Visit omnihotels dot com 501 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: slash Frisco to learn more and turn the next home 502 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: game into a weekend get away. We'll be right back 503 00:32:20,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: with Carlos Watkins on the Cowboys Hour. Back to the 504 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: Miller Like Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertsons and Omni Hotels 505 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: and Resorts. Welcome back to the Miller Like Cowboys Hour. 506 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Brad Sham Shannon Gross are very special guest Cowboys defensive 507 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: tackle Carlos Watkins. I'm Victory Monday. Yes, Yeah, let's go. 508 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: And and we mentioned um after Shannon snucked that Miller 509 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: lite note in the Wikipedia probe of Carlos about the 510 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: catching the big bull shark. We mentioned for those of 511 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: you who are not streaming right now on Dallas Cowboys 512 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: dot com there is a gigantic ninety nine incher and 513 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: what was it? One hundred and forty pounds low? Yeah, like, yeah, 514 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: one hundred pounds. Oh, gain ten pounds just the last 515 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: half hour it fished on. Gain ten pounds. Oh no, 516 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: that's hey, it wasn't It wasn't accurate. It wasn't accurate. 517 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get to get it on the scale. I 518 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: didn't get to get on this. Where did you catch 519 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: that at? It wasn't in Cowboy? I went out, Uh, 520 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: and my grandfriend took a trip to the Cowboy and 521 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: she's surprisedly with the DC fishing out there. Um, and 522 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: that's that's what I came out with. That's pretty awesome 523 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: because marlon are not the easiest fish to come across 524 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: and and land, So for that to be a surprise 525 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: fishing trip and then you to actually catch one, that's 526 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: pretty freaking awesome. Oh yeah, for sure. I love fishing too, 527 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: so it was it was a great experience. How would 528 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: you compare landing a one hundred and fifty pound marlin 529 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: if it might have been one hundred and eighty pounds 530 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: now not in two But how would you how would 531 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: you compare landing that twelve foot, two hundred pound Marlin 532 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: that's up there on the wall behind you, uh, and 533 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: and trying to pass rush against Zach Martin, who I 534 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: believe in. Marlin gave me an easier fight though for real, Like, um, 535 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: I was hearing stories one guy before me had went 536 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: out there. He was like fighting to get him in 537 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: for like two hours. It took me like twenty minutes. 538 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: The real, the realer man. Um. Yeah, Zach, He's one 539 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: of a kind. That's not an easy task at all. 540 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: It's not an easy task, you know. I was. I 541 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: was talking to um, Nate Newton, the great Nate Newton 542 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: that you know, won three Super Bowls with the Cowboys, 543 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: six pro by the way, just got elected to the 544 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,479 Speaker 1: Black College Football Hall of Fame. He did last week 545 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: from Florida and proud, proud of big news. And yeah, 546 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: we were we were talking about, you know, he loves Zach, 547 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: he calls him the President, um. And we were talking 548 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: about what makes him such a great offensive lineman, and 549 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: he was just he was just saying, once he once 550 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: he sits like you you can't you can't move him 551 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: and what what going against Zach? What? What what does 552 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: he do different that makes him such so hard to 553 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: to play against? I think it's just really uh everything right, 554 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: it's not It's like, you know, a lot of players 555 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: have a weakness in the in like he's one of 556 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: He's one of the rare guys that just doesn't have 557 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: a weakness. I feel like, um, and part of that 558 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: comes from just how we practice, you know, like every 559 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: rep even like we we right not being passed, you know, Uh, 560 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: there's a walkthrough, but he's taking every step like a 561 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: game rep. And and I really see it, like you know, 562 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: day in and day out. And that's what I feel like. 563 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: It makes some special though the works he put in um, 564 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: and you can see, you can see like he's one 565 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: of a kind of you know you're not gonna see Ah, 566 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: you don't see too many like him, just say that. 567 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: So um. Some of the things that you uh were 568 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: talking to Shannon about in his dive into your Wikipedia 569 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: page led me to a couple of other questions. One 570 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: is you talked about basketball being your first love. Those 571 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: were some pretty good statistics that Shannon had down there. 572 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: Did you, at any point prefer to pursue basketball instead 573 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: of football or when did you decide this was your sport? 574 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: When I stopped growing? That was kind of the decided factor. 575 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: And uh, Parket, I got up to like six eight, 576 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: I think I could have been uh in the NBA 577 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: right now, honestly, you know, but that's just that's just me. 578 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: Uh But yeah, once you know, once I stopped growing 579 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: and really see and plus I didn't really have no 580 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: like big offers in basketball, like maybe like a top 581 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: ACC school or something like that offering me. I might 582 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: have went, but yeah, I didn't have to. I didn't 583 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: have had it right offers them to not go football. 584 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: You know, we're very similar when it comes to the 585 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: giving up the basketball dream when we when when you 586 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: stopped growing? Because I did the same thing. That's why 587 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: I quit, uh pursuing basketball in like fifth grade? Is 588 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: that why you're not in the NBA? That's yeah, because 589 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm five nine? You do you have? You and Carlos 590 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: have a lot in common. Very true? Uh lose he 591 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: asked you, Shannon, ash don't hurt yourself laughing at Shannon. Now, 592 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: hold on, Uh, Shannon did ask you a question though? 593 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: Before that? I that really intrigued me that you're the 594 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: top five the one you asked, Yeah, yeah, who would you? 595 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: Who would be? And and I didn't realize this, but 596 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, Malik said he was a basketball guy too, 597 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: and he you know, he he that's his first love. 598 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: So and him and Noah Brown played a lot at 599 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: Ohio State, so he was giving up me as top five. 600 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: Who would be? You're you're starting five on the current 601 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: with the cow current Cowboys roster. If you had to pick, oh, 602 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: this is this is tough because I really haven't got 603 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: to see him right there on the court. But just 604 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: from just from looking, can you tell anything from that? 605 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: Can you tell anything from the hamper ball that guys 606 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: play in the locker room? Can you tell anything from that? 607 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: H It's hard, though. I feel like you got some 608 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: guys that can actually shoot, and you can tell by 609 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: the jump shot that they can play basketball. And then 610 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: you got some guys you just be like wow, like 611 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: it never looked the shot of basketball. I did, like, 612 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty tragic, but okay, I feel like I 613 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: feel like you can tell uh it's It's it's tough, 614 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: so um M, of course I'm gonna be in the 615 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: top five. Um if I had. If I had to 616 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: say one Jay Lou, um, he would beat my point 617 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: going uh that was made. He made me league's team too, 618 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: So there you go. Okay, okay, um, I did hear 619 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: Noah had a really good game too. Um and I 620 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: can tell how to just you know, Noah carries him something. 621 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: He's a hooper though, you know. Um Uh, I want 622 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: to say trade Um, I feel like he he he 623 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: has some yang um I notice because I haven't, I'm 624 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: noticing a complete absence of anyone from the offensive side 625 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: of the ball here so far. You know, I just 626 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 1: I just haven't really gotten to see. I was gonna 627 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: say Coop might be my other one. Him and MG, 628 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: I feel like they have some skill. I feel like 629 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: they got some skill, you know. Um cd is that's 630 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: why it's really hard for me to kind of pick. 631 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: But uh, like if I had to pick another one, 632 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: I would probably go Coop. Coop is he's a shooter. 633 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: I feel like he he would be the knockdown three 634 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: guys on the squad for sure. Okay. I I had 635 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: had that match up to Malik's team. I don't remember 636 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: blacked out after like two questions my memories, you know, 637 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: I got covid brain. I understand you did. You did 638 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: have that, and that's an excuse you can ride is 639 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: just as far as that horse run. Absolutely, One more break, 640 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: one more break, and we are coming back with the 641 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: great Carlos Watkins. The Midller Like Cowboys Hour is brought 642 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 1: to you in part by Papa John's Pizza. Papa John's 643 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: Better Ingredients, Better Pizza. Papa John's the official pizza of 644 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. And if you want to use what 645 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 1: the pros use, Jack Black Skincare, visit Jack Black dot 646 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: com today and we'll be right back with Carlos Watkins 647 00:44:40,440 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys Hour. Bad to the Miller Like Cowboys Hour, 648 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: supported by Albertsons and Omni Hotels and Resorts. Welcome back 649 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 1: to the Middle Like Cowboys Hour on Victory Monday, Brad 650 00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: Sham Shannon Gross our special guest Cowboys Defense of Tackle 651 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. Who's the man who caught that twelve foot 652 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 1: eight hundred pound marlin hanging on the wall behind him? There? 653 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: Uh me? Um. You know you were talking before about 654 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: the very impressive list of schools that were courting you 655 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: before you signed with Clemson, and it always makes me 656 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: wonder when a guy is a veteran free agent, did 657 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: you have a lot of choices? I always wonder why, 658 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: you like, why would a guy in the situation you 659 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: were in decide that Dallas was the right fit for 660 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: you at this time in your life? Um? Um, I 661 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: had the printers are getting recruited by Dan Quinn in 662 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: high school. Um, so I kind of knew what kind 663 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: of Manning was and what he was about. So it 664 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: kind of really made it easy, you know. Um, you 665 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: know once once Dallas reached out, you know, and uh, 666 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: because you know, Dallas is an America's team, so it 667 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: really made a easy choice. Though, when it came down 668 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: to him. I got a question for you, Carlos. Off 669 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: the heels of my Wikipedia segment, one of our producers, 670 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 1: Chris Beam, walked in here and showed me a report 671 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: on It was a website. I'm not sure the website, 672 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: but it was an article, and the article had conflicting information. 673 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: It said that there's a picture on the Internet of 674 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 1: you somewhere when you were about six or seven years 675 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: old in Dallas Cowboys gear. But then it went on 676 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: in the article to say that you grew up a 677 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: huge Philadelphia Eagles fan. So would you like to on 678 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: live radio tell people which team you rolled with it 679 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: when you were younger? All right, so I'm gonna tell 680 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: you with the whole Dallas thing. As a kid like 681 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: my uncle is a dialhard Dallas fan. Shout out the 682 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: antone uncle Anton dialhard Dallas fan. He bought me that 683 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: from Christmas, you know, so he didn't want to took 684 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: the picture in everything. But I did grew up a 685 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: Philly fandof all right, rubber field that he was. And 686 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: it was me and him growing up because I would 687 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 1: always talk junk to um. But yeah, yeah, don't don't 688 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: look at me. Don't look at me differently, you know, no, no, no, no, no, 689 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: no better then hey. Uh you know, blood, blood is 690 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: blood in business is business, and nobody's mad at you. 691 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: But I do wonder how how a kidd in North 692 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: Carolina became a Philly fan. Did they have some particular 693 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: players that you liked or why Philly? Uh? Yeah, I 694 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: mean Nab, I like Minnab a lot um. So he 695 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 1: kind of he kind of grown to me and I 696 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: was I rode a wave even after he left, you know, 697 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: so um minnad was you know, I don't know why. 698 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: I was a big minnad Brian Westbrook fan, and uh 699 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: Brian Dawkness too though I love defense and Brian Darkness 700 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: was just like, you don't really see that his kind 701 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: on the field anymore. So, uh yeah, they grew onto 702 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 1: me for sure. Well, you just named three great players, 703 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: so nobody can really be mad at you for that. 704 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: Did you hear it from anybody? When who knew you 705 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: were a Philly fan when you all went up there 706 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: and beat them so bad there the other night? Um? No, 707 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: on man, you have too much to say, honestly, and 708 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: they have too much to say. You're You're a You're 709 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: a really chill guy, especially for I feel like the 710 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: defensive line is like that. They're either one extreme or 711 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: the other. They're either very loud and outspoken or they're 712 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: very relaxed and very chilled, like almost like offensive lineman. 713 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: What what do you what? Do you always find this interesting? 714 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: What do you do on the plane rides? Do you 715 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: do you sleep? Do you watch movies? Do you play cards? What? 716 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: What's your thing on on road trips? I mean I'm 717 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: doing all the above, honestly, you know I played cards. Um, 718 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: I asolutely was watching movies, this flight, uh, this last game, 719 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: or was movies on the way there and the way back. 720 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: But I get active though. I mean I'm the one 721 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: one round playing, just laughing, talking, just having fun. Um. 722 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I do a little a little bit of everything. Now. 723 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: M Shannon just outlined some different personality types, and I 724 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: really you're this d line room is one of my 725 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: favorites because of some of those personality types. So clearly, 726 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: I think we've established that Basham, who we had on 727 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: very early in the year we had on this show. 728 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: He is one of those show we say, outgoing types, 729 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: and he and Randy Gregory seemed to be kind of 730 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: birds of a feather a little bit. And uh and 731 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: then and then and certainly d law There's nothing shy 732 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: and retiring about DeMarcus Lawrence, not at are not at 733 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: a and yeah lah none know. I was just gonna say, 734 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: is he's still Is he still? I mean he missed 735 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: so much of the season, but I'm totally didn't miss 736 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: any meetings really, I mean, his personality is so big. 737 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: Is he still the leader of the room? Oh? Yeah, 738 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: no doubt, um law Uh, you know when he went down, 739 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, we was all devastated, you know, but he 740 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: stayed around. Um but he he has this this uh 741 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: focus about you know him, like he he locked he 742 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: locked in and um and his energy you know, he 743 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: really wants to win. Like and you could tell you 744 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: he's another one one you could tell about his practice 745 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: just perfect his craft. But um but yeah, he's one 746 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: of those that h his his energy and leadership plays 747 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: a big role in I D line. Now, this is 748 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: a question I wish I had the opportunity to ask you, 749 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: like on Thursday this week, but you you you watch 750 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: the tape today. I'm curious about because you mentioned the 751 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: focus and locked in, and from what I've been told, 752 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: the switch flipped as soon as y'all land. I know 753 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: that's Coach McCarthy told you that. We've all seen the 754 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: clip on social media when we when we land at 755 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: four am on Sunday, then that's what that's the starting line. 756 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: But have you noticed that guys are all ready even 757 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: on Monday night, starting to get a particularly intense focus 758 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: because this is a playoff game. I mean, I feel like, 759 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's the same focus we've had all year. Nothing. 760 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: I feel like our guys has been locked in all 761 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: year um so, I don't feel like, you know, our 762 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: level of focus has changed any you know, we we 763 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: come in, you know, we just get prepared like every 764 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: real of the week, you know, with the with the 765 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: mindset of is is do a die? And what do 766 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: you anticipate from practice this week? Will it also be 767 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: the same And as a veteran, will you be one 768 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: of those trying to make sure that it stays and 769 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: feels the same so that young guys don't feel like, 770 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: uh they need to get up out of themselves. Uh yeah, 771 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: And I think the coach is gonna do a great 772 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: job of that. You know. We just do what we do, 773 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: lock in on the game plan or what we need 774 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: to handle, and I feel like that's that's what's gonna 775 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: get done. I don't think it's nothing more we need 776 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 1: to do, you know, as far as you know practice, 777 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: we just you know, it's the mindset thing. You know, 778 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: we we know we capable of. We lock in and 779 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: do what we gotta do. We give ourself a great chance. 780 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: Quick question before we get out of here, for me, 781 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: Carlo is probably the last one. Do you have a 782 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: go to meal? Another rookies bring your food on the plane. 783 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 1: Do you have a go to meal that you eat 784 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: on road trips. I'm a Chick fil a guy, you know. 785 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: I like my spicy ticket sellers with the with the 786 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: fries and the Polynesian sauce um. But uh yeah, I'm 787 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: I ain't Popeyes. You can't go wrong with that either, 788 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: But I'm a Chick fil A guy. So that's that's 789 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: what I like to eat on the plane. Ride over them. Now, 790 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: I got twenty seconds, But I gotta know, is it 791 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 1: Osha or Chauncey who has to bring you that? Both 792 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: of them? But also he not he ain't been on 793 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: his job lately. Ain't been on his job lately. He 794 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: works hard. All right, We're out of time. Carlos Watkins, 795 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: thank you. Good luck in the playoff. This is the 796 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,439 Speaker 1: Miller Like Cowboys Hour. This has been a product trip 797 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football 798 00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 1: Club at