1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two, Oh Sex, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Episode two up ur Days like guys, the production of 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where you take 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday, 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: October one. Of course it is take your Parents to 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Lunch Day National, Take your parents to Launch Day International, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: no broad Day, so you know I'm observing one of 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: those two. My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. And 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a long long time till lie. 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Look my three year old and the I don't know 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: the difference between fruit and veg Oh no, no, no, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: I'm a foolish man, foolish man, been lied to my 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: whole life. Man, fuck these seeds. That is courtesy of 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Pod Moran talking about my inability to differentiate between fruit 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: and vegetable or as I wouldn't even all it, my 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: realization that vegetables are all conspiracy and it's all fruits. Uh. 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Grag all the fall things, pumpkin, spice, drinks, apples, 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: let's pick. I have the ships. Then comes thus no, 20 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: this ship is so called skiing, skating, falling, pass breaking. 21 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: My balls are froze. This is so old. I am 22 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: passed off, stuck in my home and that's a risky 23 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Yamagucci Mane who decided to take us down a little 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: trip link two. All the small things but the part yeah, 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: all the fault. Oh, I get it. Okay, see what 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: I see? What do you do that? That was awesome though. 27 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I saw that on Twitter and uh and liked it 28 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: by clicking the heart underneath it. Well, Miles, we are 29 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a 30 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: very funny and talented podcast or author and TV personality. 31 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: She's the author of the book Tropical Attire, Encouraged and 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: other Phrases that Scare Me and host the podcast Alison 33 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Rosen Is Your Best Friend and Childish, which is a 34 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: podcast for parents and people with parents, so a very 35 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: limited demo that they're going after their Please welcome the hilarious, 36 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: the brilliant Allison Roses. Hello. Hello, I am honoring no 37 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: broad day, but I have been honoring that for the 38 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: whole time we've been in our homes. Fantastic, I'm observing it. Yeah, 39 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: it's my personal holiday. Actually not, it is my personal holiday. 40 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: But also I think most people with boobs out there 41 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: are also celebrating it. Yeah, apparent it started because it's 42 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: also a National Metastatic Breast Cancer Awareness Day. I think 43 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: that two of them are one sort of after the 44 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: others to bring more awareness around you know, Okay, we'll 45 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: see I was going for a funny light thing and 46 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: then you really harsh. And I was trying to because 47 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: your facts sometimes cancer with the cancer fact, because sometimes 48 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: you'll see, like like on this little national day calendar thing, 49 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: you'll look at it and sometimes it's like a group 50 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: of friends decided what better day way to honor it. 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: But this very specifically, I think because obviously because October 52 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: is also breast cancer Awareness month, so it's probably right, 53 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: that's right. See I didn't even know that, and they 54 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: didn't even put that in your fall Things song. It's 55 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: the one time NFL guys are wearing pink. What's happening. 56 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: It's October, that's what's happening. Yeah, it's why it proves 57 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: that they are kno quests. They don't give a ship. 58 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Breast cancer is pink? Oh, variant cancer is blue? Do 59 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: you know the other colors? No? I don't think I 60 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: do either, but I do think that they have different 61 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: colors are assigned to the different types of cancer. See 62 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: prostate cancer is light blue. They kind of have one 63 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: for everything. All cancers is lavender, so if you wear 64 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: a lavendar one, you kind of got them all covered. Apparently, 65 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: quit chart particular is purple, which is interesting. Thyroid is blue, pink, 66 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: and teal, which is a lot of different colors. But 67 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: that that's cool to like have a combo, like a 68 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: color way for your Oh man, I feel that the 69 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: term color way is kind of ridiculous, and I tweeted 70 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: something about that, like why do we need like when 71 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: did we start referring to things as color as a 72 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: color way? And then a lot of people responded saying 73 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: that this is used in sneakers a lot, And then 74 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: I just went deleted my tweets. I'm like, Okay, this 75 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: is potentially culturally insensitive. So I took it away that 76 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: you can possibly about Okay, probably the most vocal in 77 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: your mentions, you know, Yeah, do you feel the term 78 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: color way is necessary? Can't you just say color? I mean, 79 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: I get that it's a few colors. I think because 80 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm a sneaker obsessed person that I grew up without 81 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: saying as a kid, I'm like, oh, that's adult color 82 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: way for that shoe, because typically it was never just 83 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: like one color. It's like, oh, it's the it's the 84 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Carolina blue with the white and the gray or whatever 85 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: that comes together. So I've just I think as a 86 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: habit just brought that phrase with me. But I understand 87 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, like I've said it before, 88 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: we were like color way like the combo of never mind. 89 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: I'm just think I was one of those people because 90 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I hadn't really heard it until I started really thinking 91 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: about sneakers, like, you know, really thinking about them. I 92 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: didn't want people to know that that that I have 93 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: a blind spot when it comes to sneakers. I guess 94 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: I want them to think that I know, I don't 95 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: Why why are you? Why are you off the ground? 96 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: And I see nothing more? How do you do exactly how? 97 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: I legitimately have never used color way to refer to 98 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: anything but a sneaker. I thought I was using poetic license. 99 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: And you you came for me, Allison. You're sorry they came. 100 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: They came for me, and I'm just paying it forward. No, 101 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: I have Now I see it in ad copy for 102 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: like podcast ads, for all sorts of products. Colorway is 103 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: coming for all of us. We're all going to be 104 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Colorways bitch. And I didn't even ask for that, you know, 105 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: we can. I was fine, just lit me need to 106 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: sneakers don't need to see it in decks. And I 107 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: do get most of my poetic inspiration from ad copy, 108 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: so we all past women did too. All right, Allison, 109 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit 110 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, a few of the things 111 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're going to talk about Amazon. They 112 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: have a very specific way of doing business, which involves 113 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: if there's any legislation looking at for workers or laws 114 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: protecting workers, they're out. So we're gonna talk about why 115 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: they pulled out of alcohol in California. We're going to 116 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: talk about the Seattle cops. Please feel for the Seattle cops. 117 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: They are mad about the vac's mandate. We're gonna talk 118 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: about Greg Abbott becoming just a parody of himself, and 119 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: of course we will get to the big news that 120 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: is on everybody's mind. Couch guy from TikTok, I mean 121 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: I have my theories. You know, we are a couch 122 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 1: guy to not see it. Okay, come on, the whole 123 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: internet has agreed. These people need to wake up all 124 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: of that plenty more. First out Lison, we do like 125 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: to ask uric guests, what is something from your search history? 126 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I recently searched kidney donor bad Art Friend? Do you 127 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: guys know what I'm talking about? The New York Times 128 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: piece that everyone, Yes, have you guys already talked about 129 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: that on your Actually i've been. I've been getting yelled 130 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: at from her majesty and my partner because she was like, 131 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I need to talk to you about it. You're gonna 132 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: love it. I'm like, I know, I just it's a 133 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: long read and I have to do some other stuff, 134 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: but I will. Yeah. So I forget what day specifically 135 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: it came out in the New York Times, but I 136 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: just started seeing all these people tweeting about kidneys and 137 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: bad Art Friend and who is the bad Art Friend, 138 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: which I believe is with the title of it, And 139 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, how long can I persist in not knowing 140 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: what this is about? Because I sort of when the 141 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: whole Internet is talking to or obviously not the whole internet, 142 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: but all the you know in the stuff I follow. 143 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: When it seems that everyone was talking about something, I 144 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: sort of enjoy that moment where it's like, I know 145 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: this is going to be dumb, and I don't yet 146 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: know what it is, Like I am, I have blissful ignorance. 147 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: But then you know, I'm like, okay, fine, I can't 148 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: take it. So I looked it up and I ended 149 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: up reading the story. It is very long, but well, 150 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: some people have said to me like, it's not worth it. 151 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: They're both repugnant. You don't need to read it. But 152 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I was happy that I read it. It is I 153 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: imagine this is what her Majesty has been saying to you. 154 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: But it is interesting. There's lots of way it brings. 155 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: It's one of those stories that stays with you. So 156 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I actually do recommend reading it and then having a 157 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: conversation about it, which I haven't. I need to call 158 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: up your lady because I haven't really had a chance 159 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: to talk about it with anyone. Yea without I'll just 160 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: be like, hey, the homie Allison wants to talk to 161 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: you about yeah, yeah, right now, right now, right now, 162 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: right now, I'm on a plane. Do you know, does 163 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: she have an opinion about which one is the bad friend. No, 164 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: because she wanted to save that discourse, or when I 165 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: read it, she didn't want to sully my perception of 166 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: we just have to talk about this. I'm like, yes, 167 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: fuck okay. It's well written and well crafted in that 168 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: there's sort of a bit of a new info comes 169 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: out near the very end, which potentially colors how you'll 170 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: see it, So that might be what she's hiding this. 171 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: There was a tweet last week that captured the feeling 172 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: though by at Sassy Black Diva. She said, I hate 173 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: when you have to read an article to understand Twitter discourse, 174 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: like why are y'all assigning a bit of homework? I 175 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: just want to because' And that's how I felt to him, 176 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: like funck al right, Like I will read the I 177 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: will read the assignments, Miles, we have our assignment for 178 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode. We'll read that, our friend. Can you give 179 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: us the broad strokes just to entice this is an 180 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: also interesting exercise to try and have someone describe it 181 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: to you the way they think it should be described 182 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: without selling your perception. Yeah, okay, So it is about 183 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: two female writers. They had both been in a lot 184 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: of writing programs and that is how they met each other. 185 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: One of them is Asian American, one of them is 186 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: white and grew up more economically disadvantaged. I'd say so 187 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the white one, And I know it sounds like a 188 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: like race is a part of the story though, So anyway, 189 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: she donates a kidney, like site uns like she doesn't 190 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: know who's going to receive it. She donates it, she 191 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: starts talking about it on social media, and she gets 192 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: upset that the other writer hasn't like acknowledged she's been 193 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: talking about on social media, and she feels like the 194 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: other one like, did you even know that I, you know, 195 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: donated my kidney. And then it turns out that the 196 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: other one writes a story about a character that donates 197 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: her kidney, and the one who donated her kidney feels 198 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: like she had inspired that story. And so then it's 199 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: sort of this question of if you write a story 200 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: about like who owns that story? And then the one 201 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: who wrote it says, the story is really about like 202 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: white savior complex and I feel like I did a 203 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: terrible job explained. But this is the difference. This is why, 204 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: that's why it's hard to describe it, because it's the 205 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I think the most version that everyone's like, you just 206 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: have to read it, but just know it's about two people, 207 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, are they being petty? I don't know. 208 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: You got to read it and then you'll you'll begin 209 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: to sort of understand more like it's it was weird 210 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: because her mastery. She she was like, I don't want 211 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: to so many good lines. She's like, I don't even 212 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: want to see, right, I mean, it's it's ultimately like 213 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: the it's it is it's about female I think it 214 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: is about female friendship and it's about a communication breakdown. 215 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: The one who donated her kidney begins to act in 216 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: ways that I think are quite petty, Like she starts 217 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: to everywhere that the one who wrote the story is 218 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: trying to publish the story. She starts contacting them, accusing 219 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: her of plagiarism. I mean, it's like it's crazy, but 220 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: there's other But then there's stuff that makes like they 221 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: both do not come off well. I'll by Robert Kulker 222 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: something that is not So is there a relation between 223 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: the person who's writing the story and the two friends? 224 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: Like I don't think so. And so the two friends 225 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: named Sonya Larson is the one who wrote about the 226 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: kidney donation. Don Dorland is the one who donated her 227 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: kidney Sonya Larson has is a bit more accomplished as 228 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: a writer. And it's like it's become a public feud 229 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: because she was trying to publish it. And that's why 230 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: it's a story, because it does feel like the sort 231 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: of drama you would see on Facebook and not in 232 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: the page of the New York Times. Right. I don't 233 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: know exactly how it came to the attention of the Times. 234 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: I know that John Dorland had been trying to get 235 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: the story published for a while, but that's not that's 236 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: what sort of said is an aside, like, oh, and 237 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: by the way, she had been trying to get this published, 238 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: the story about feeling that she was wronged by the writing, okay. 239 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: And then last question, which want to like I I 240 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: don't know which of those is the bad art friend? 241 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: That is I have the beholder got it okay, because 242 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: I was just picturing somebody who was like that at 243 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: art as a as a friend, right, making you'd be like, hey, 244 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: dudefu bad art friend that I thought it was when 245 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: I was first asked by her message, go did you 246 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: read it. I was like, is this about like friends 247 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: you have whose art sucks but you support them and 248 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: like you'll never tell them that the art is bad. 249 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh my god, Yeah, I love to 250 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: cree that your growth as a creator. Yeah, can I go? 251 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Can I go? Can I go? Let's get out of here, 252 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: bad improv friend? Yeah, exactly. The specific line I believe 253 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: it comes because Sonja says that Dawn is being a 254 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: bad art friend, because a good art friend would never 255 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: stand in the way of someone else's storytell So now 256 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I have to reading assignment. So I have the New 257 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: York Times article about this, and then I have to 258 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: read the short story. Correct. I don't know that the 259 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: short story if it's as relevant, but I know people 260 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: don't know. People have not done that as part of 261 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: the assignment. Yeah, that's extra extra credit, extra Okay that 262 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I do not do extra credit. So that's great extra 263 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: credit because I will just I will just hound the 264 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: professor during office hours and demand they change my grade. Exactly. 265 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Did that ever work for you? No? I never did 266 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: that ship because I thought that was the like just 267 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: so fucking whacked to be like, you didn't do the work, 268 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: and now you're complaining about how the ship was too hard, 269 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, no, just be like me. 270 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: Cheat off your classmates, keep your head low, take that see, 271 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and then you're good. Yeah, you cheated off your classmates 272 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to get a see. I mean well, I mean it's 273 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: like I'm something of the lowest and like Allison to 274 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: say that, there were some lecture classes that I don't 275 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: know if I was physically there. Apparently I was according 276 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: to the sign and cheat. But you know we all 277 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: did college indicate Yeah, I think, especially when I was like, 278 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: this is a sucking scam. Yeah, maybe all this in 279 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: high school for what for what? The worst grade I 280 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: ever got in college? I got a D on a 281 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: group project paper that where we were like, basically it 282 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: was a class that like the professor never changed the tests, 283 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: so it's just like, yeah, so you just always had 284 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: the answers all the tests and I had just completely 285 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: written the test off and then we got a D 286 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: on the things it's not good. We had our ap 287 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: europh story teacher old dude. See now, bro, he didn't 288 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: he didn't change ship. And I'll be like, yo, we 289 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: got a pop quiz, but I got the answers right 290 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: here for five, would were you outside the classroom like 291 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to find me by the flagpole? You know what I mean? 292 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: During the question, I was there serving fucking papers and tests. 293 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: Was always been you know, Alison, what is something you 294 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: think is overrated? Oh my god? Okay, so I have 295 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: a lot? I wrote down a lot. I mean, I'm 296 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: obviously just gonna give you one, but I'm just choosing. 297 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to have for me to choose here, 298 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm gonna say, and this is controversial, 299 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: but and this also shows my age. I think I 300 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: have begun to feel that texting is overrated. It's so convenient, 301 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: so of course my communication with other people has done 302 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: via text. However, I just feel I also find lately 303 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: that I'm starting to be that person who's like, can 304 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I give you a call? Because it's just so much easier, 305 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: oftentimes faster, it takes more energy. But actually, oh, I 306 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm this person, uh just talking to so 307 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: much is lost on text. And also it actually like 308 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: my thumbs get tired, my fingers feel fat. I just 309 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's sometimes times, if it's if you're 310 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: trying to make plans, I find and if you're trying 311 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: to make plans and there's multiple variables a phone call 312 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: or occasionally a voice memo. It just gets it done 313 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: faster and easier and there's less chance for a miscommunication. 314 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, email, texting, I think are all Generally they 315 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: seem like the most convenient thing, especially for me, somebody 316 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: who has like social anxiety, and so every conversation is 317 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: built up in my mind ahead of the time, like 318 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: this is going to be hard, and then they're always 319 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: pretty painless. But this person is going to yell at 320 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: me if I are so mad, I can tell based 321 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: on their text, right, okay, I'm I'm free, Then okay, 322 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm free. You have to wear body armor for this. 323 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: A voice call is downright aggressive in this day and age. 324 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: But I just think we're missing something by insisting on texting, 325 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: even though I didn't think there's a lot of things 326 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: that can cannot be solved efficiently over text. Like you're 327 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: saying like because if you're on because watch like you're 328 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: saying Alice, and you're trying to plan something, but you 329 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: know it's probably there's like three conditions may have to 330 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: be meant for this other person. That's a fucking potentially 331 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: two and a half hour conversation Twitter like a text 332 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: exchange and you're like yeah, blah blah blah, and they're like, yeah, 333 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: well if this other thing happens, okay, well then look 334 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: into that because if we can, then I can. We 335 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: can try and adjust it like this, and then you 336 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: do it incrementally versus hopping on the phone like hey, 337 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: I got reservations here, but if you can't make it, 338 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: we can shift to this time, except we would have 339 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: to sit here blah blah blah blah blah. Done exactly, 340 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: but exactly. Yes, last night I gotta Greg fitz Simmons, 341 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: with whom I do childish. We had our time set 342 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: for the podcast today and then he's like, oh, I 343 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: messed up. Can you do this time? And it We 344 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: went back a couple of times on text, and then 345 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: I just called him because I knew it was going 346 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: to get it was gonna be fo texts and also 347 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: texting like gives you permission to I think I think you, 348 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: at least I tend to give myself permission to be 349 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: like more, I don't know you could you. It gives you, 350 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: It grants you an emotional remove whereas if you're talking 351 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: to somebody, You're going to be more yourself and like 352 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit warmer. I feel like, yeah, yeah, 353 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if that'd be interesting experience experiment, because like 354 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: everyone has people they text with like nearly every day 355 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: or every other day, when if you're like, what if 356 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: we just caught up on the phone for fifteen minutes? Right? 357 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: You see, I don't even want to do that, despite 358 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but be good. Yeah, no, I'll look, 359 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to connect with people and just trying to 360 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: be more efficient. That's right. Thank you for seeing when 361 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: I completely misunderstood I'm saying. It's not about in connection no, no, 362 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: but saving my thumbs a little bit of energy, that's right. No, 363 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. You're right, No, I mean 364 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: I think it would be interesting. There's this old uh 365 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: I forget if it was. It was like a magazine 366 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: article that I must have been like trapped on a 367 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: plane without any WiFi, And because I as I was 368 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: reading it, I was like, why the fuck is the 369 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: same magazine article about like how they saved the World 370 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: War Z movie like it was a mess, and they 371 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: like basically brought in this fixer who's like a Hollywood 372 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: producer who they bring in anytime like something's fucked up. 373 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: And their main innovation is they refused to read email 374 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: or texts and everything has to take place in conversation 375 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: or you just like come by and see them. And 376 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that gave me permission to uh stop 377 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: reading emails, just ignoring everyone's we haven't been able to 378 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: get ahold of you. Yeah, but did you hear about 379 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: the guy who saved World War z? Uh? Let's take 380 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back and find out 381 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: what you think is underrated? M And we're back and 382 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: it's time to find out als and what is something 383 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Brain teasers? I don't hear about 384 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: brain teasers ever anymore, and I don't know where they're hiding. 385 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm just people think that I'm 386 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: not a brain teaser person, but I really get a 387 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: kick out of them growing up. I feel like, you know, 388 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: you hear about the twins, one always lies, one always 389 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: tells the truth, and you hear about the three light bulbs, 390 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: or like broken glass water, a dead body, what happened? 391 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I love stuff like that. I don't ever hear them anymore? 392 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: Where are they? Yeah? What the I didn't even think 393 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: about that? Now, Maybe I need to be looking at 394 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: readers digested. Do they have brain teasers in there? I 395 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: just googled brain teasers for adults and the number one 396 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: result is fifty eight brain teasers that will leave you stumped. Okay, Okay, 397 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: here we go. You're ready. Yeah. A man pushes his 398 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: car to a hotel, and there's ned covering up the 399 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: rest of us. A man pushes this car to a 400 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: hotel and tells the owner he's bankrupt. Why that's okay? 401 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Is that a joke that feels like more of a 402 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: joke than it's similar to the one I'll give you. 403 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel stumped? Do you feel stumped me? I'll 404 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: give you a corollary one that I heard as a 405 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: kid that might help you explain this. A guy is 406 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: running home. It's Halloween. There's a man waiting at home 407 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: with a mask who he's afraid of, but he keeps running. 408 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: Do you know that one he's running home there's a 409 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: there's a man with a mask that he's afraid of, 410 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: so he keeps running. So I'm guessing it's like a 411 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: medical mask or something not not a Halloween mask. So 412 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's the World Series. It's baseball. He's running 413 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: to home plate and there's the guy waiting. There's the 414 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: catcher who has a ball, but he has to keep going. 415 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: So this one is he's playing monopoly. So a man 416 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: pushed his car at the hotel tells the owner's backs. 417 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: See that's see that's culturally biased. Maybe they're not underrated. 418 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: Fuck these ones, I don't know. All right, let's talk 419 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: about Amazon. They were close to building a warehouse facility 420 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: in al cahoone and then they found out about a 421 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: law that San Diego County was implementing that basically makes 422 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: it so that you have to pay your workers a 423 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: livable wage give them oh oh they're going to cost 424 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: and also somebody taking off in a penis shaped rocket. 425 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: What prevailing union wages? Um so yeah, Also fifty six 426 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: hours of annual sickly for work, just you know, the basics, 427 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: humane working conditions with livel paying wages that are life 428 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: sustaining and not subsubsistence wages. And that's Amazon was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 429 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: We're actually gonna cancel this. And but here's the thing. 430 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: They're a spokesperson and all of their what they're talking about, 431 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: they'll never admit that it's because of this. They said. Oh, 432 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: while we have decided not to pursue the side at alcohol, 433 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: we continue to assess opportunities to invest and grow across 434 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: the region. We appreciate the time and attention committed committed 435 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: by the City of San Diego, as well as local 436 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: community leaders and officials. Amazon is a dynamic business and 437 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: we are constantly exploring new locations. We weigh variety of 438 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: factors on deciding where to develop future sites to best 439 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: serve our customers, and this common for us to explore 440 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: multiple locations simultaneously and just and adjust based on our 441 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: operational needs, which is to pay people. Fuck all. Yeah, 442 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: we enjoyed meeting a few, but after talking with corporate, 443 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: we've decided to go a different direction. We'll definitely keep 444 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: you in mind though. That's what it feels like, right 445 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: right right, I mean, that would keep in mind that 446 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: was haunting that that was an amazing ability to slip 447 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: into hr speak. That was me applying for jobs in 448 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: two thousand seven. Yeah, every time there's a book good 449 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: too great about companies that like beat stock market expectations 450 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: consistently over decades, and it has this like central principle 451 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: called the hedgehog principle, where every company that thrives as 452 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: hard as Amazon has for like the past third years, 453 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: has like one thing that they do better than anyone 454 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: else in the world, and they just repeatedly double down 455 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: on that thing over and over. And for Amazon, that 456 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: thing is extracting inhumane amounts of work out of people 457 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: while paying them low wages and then hiding that process 458 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: from the consumer so that it seems like it's just 459 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: a fucking magic trick, like they're able to perform miracles 460 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: where you click a button and the thing arrives at 461 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: your house, to the degree that I feel like it 462 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: has changed how we think of the time space continuum. 463 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: Like I was, I was in the woods over the weekend. 464 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: Can't can't go camping without bragging about it because I 465 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: built a fire like a yeah, like a real yeah, 466 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Anyways. My five year old was 467 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: as I was sucking up dinner, you know, hot dogs 468 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: and mac and cheese over a campfire. Mac and cheese 469 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: apparently shouldn't have a little black things in it, and 470 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, let's just order sushi and have 471 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: it appear out in the woods because Amazon has you know, 472 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: it's not it's not like Amazon is our food delivery 473 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: service of but I feel like just generally, it has 474 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: created a reality where things can be ordered on your 475 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: phone and magically appear, and so I like explain to it, well, 476 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: there's actually like people who do that work and would 477 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: have to drive all the way out here, and like 478 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: it's just not possible. But yeah, the the fact that 479 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: it's not just magically appearing, that people are doing backbreaking 480 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: work to make these things appear and being paid poorly. 481 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: Is that's the thing that they figured out. My kids 482 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: have the same well, not owing so much. He's only two, 483 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: but Elliott, his four is all about but can we 484 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: buy it on your phone? Can we buy it on 485 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: your computer? That is where everything comes. Yes, yeah, it's 486 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: literally like a magic trip. Like just even when I 487 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: order something and it takes, you know, ten days or something. 488 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm always stunned by this because I am also so 489 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: used to just clicking something and then you know before 490 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: right when you navigate away from that page and there's 491 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: already an email thanking you for your order. And then 492 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: it arrives in a couple of days. I mean, it is, 493 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: and I think that it's so convenient that we we 494 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: all choose to ignore the reality of how it's happening. 495 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's sort of like, uh, like buying 496 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: a piece of chicken. You don't you know, I don't 497 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: want to think about that there was a head attached 498 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: to this. I'd rather just push that out of my head. Yeah. Yeah, 499 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's just kind of the there. Their model 500 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: is to break the social contract but hide that from 501 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: people so they don't have to think about it or 502 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: just or that it's like hey, I mean they're they're 503 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: breaking the social contract. But like I got this fucking 504 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: waterproof bluetooth speaker in like eighteen hours though yea the 505 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: same day delivery, right. And it's also caused me to 506 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: like realize too, like to actually try and challenge myself 507 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: to not rely on like that instant gratification aspect, especially 508 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: like with consumer goods, Like I'll try and go to 509 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: a store if I can, just to kind of remind 510 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: myself that there is this, like there's a process to 511 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: things still, because when it gets so obscured versus like 512 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: click click click, click, clicking, it's here. I'm I find 513 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: myself getting a little more like impatient, Like you know, 514 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: especially like when I was like trying to get stuff 515 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: like a move or something like having to order things 516 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: and do all this other kind of stuff. I just 517 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: became more and more impatient because I've lost touch like 518 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: the former reality, which is to be like, all right, 519 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: we gotta get in the car and go to the 520 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: store to get this stuff today. But you know, but 521 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: it has made things easier for other people, so to 522 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: each their own, but I'm I can see being a 523 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: slippery slope for me. Yeah. We are back and forth 524 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: between like never using Amazon and then like occasionally using 525 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: it when like something is needed. But we are generally 526 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: trying to be a no Amazon household, and it definitely 527 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: adds days to the process. But it's definitely the Other 528 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: thing that's good is most places that you would buy 529 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: something off of, like buy something from Amazon, Like if 530 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: you go to their website, they're usually yo, get off, 531 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: just off the rip. Because we're competing with ourselves against Amazon, 532 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Brussel ship it pretty quickly. And when I actually kind 533 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: of started looking at it like that, and I'm like, oh, yes, 534 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: it's really not that hard, especially if you know, and 535 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: if I needed something immediately like band aids and ship 536 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: go to CBS. Yeah exactly, Amazon Prime that ship. Yeah, 537 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: that's good. It's good. Like our brains work better when 538 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: our feed are moving, So it's good to like go 539 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: do something instead of just making it vis CBS, Yeah exactly. 540 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Don't you think of a little the little guy? Yeah, Walgreens. Well, 541 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Seattle cops. They are protesting the 542 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: demand that they get the vaccine that is that has 543 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: proven to be a bridge too far to protect themselves 544 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: from a thing that is the number one killer of 545 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: police in the nation. Yeah. If you go to the 546 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: officer down memorial page like website where it's there to 547 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: like honor phone law enforcement, the COVID page is so 548 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: lengthy and like it's wild when you scroll, because you'll 549 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: see like clusters of multiple deaths, like in a certain place, 550 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: like whether it's a correctional facility or like a smaller 551 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: sheriff's office. But even on that page that's like ran 552 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: to like honor the phone, they're like, please get the 553 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: fucking vaccine. It's the number one killer of law enforcement. Please. 554 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: But most people have looked at this as just a 555 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: culture war thing as it evolved out of the uprising. 556 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: They think of last summer, and you know, every every 557 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: place is dealing with a different way. In California, you've 558 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: got Alex killing Aueva. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Alex Villan Aueva, 559 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: the sheriff. You're saying, I'm not going to enforce vaccine mandates. 560 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose half my guys and then they won't 561 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: be able to be current in their deputy gangs. Google 562 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: l A s D gangs also quick reminder, and then 563 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: also if you look in Oregon, there was state troopers 564 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: who tried to get a judge to block the governor's 565 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: vaccuum mandate. The judge was like, this is well within 566 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: their like per view as governor to mandate this for 567 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: public health people because they're trying to protect you and 568 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: the general public from the ills of pandemic. And with 569 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: Seattle there they have about thirty eight percent of their 570 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: like officers and staff are not vaccinated and the deadline 571 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: is approaching, and the mayor has been trying to do 572 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: like all this stuff like okay, well, if you how 573 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: about more paid leave, how's how's how how's it an 574 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: additional forty hours of paid leave to address any pandemic 575 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: COVID related issues that you have to address. We'll give 576 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: you that time off in addition to the forty hours 577 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: paid leave we gave you at the beginning of this pandemic. 578 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: So you have two three weeks just to use for 579 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, has COVID related? No? Still no, 580 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: still want to You're really gonna turn your back on 581 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: these pensions that people are paying through their teeth for. Okay, 582 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: So it's a bit of a waiting game to see 583 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: what happens with a mayor does not seem very you know, 584 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: doesn't seem quick to suddenly be like, oh, yes, religious 585 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: exemptions for a city that's famously not religious. And then 586 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: the New York Post, of course tied it to how 587 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: me and everybody's been to police for for a long 588 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: time now, you know, wn't you think of their feelings. 589 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: There's this quote in this article. The environment has been 590 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: pretty toxic and negative, one unnamed officer told Fox thirteen News, 591 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: not just from this whole mandate, but prior to that 592 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: as well. I'm not sure this would be a good 593 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: place for me to work long term for my mental health. 594 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: It has been very stressful. There's episode of Friends where 595 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: where Joey has a hernia. He's in a lot of 596 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: pain from his hernia and he doesn't have health insurance, 597 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: but he's like, if I get health insurance, I think 598 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get lazy, And they're all like, what are 599 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: you talking? Like you you're in the midst of a 600 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: medical emergency right now. He's talking about like the you know, 601 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: elective surgeries he might get. And for some reason that 602 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: I keep being reminded of that, Like there is a 603 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: pandemic that is trying to kill all of us, and 604 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: people are sitting there being like, hm, but what about 605 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: my freedom to resist the DA DA DA? And I 606 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: know that in their distorted or well in view of 607 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: what's going on, like people are using the emergence, you know, 608 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: this deadly pandemic as an excuse to enforce compliance or whatever. 609 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: But I just I'm so, so, so, so so frustrated 610 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: by the anti bactors. I went on kind of a 611 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: social media binge over the weekend because I've become aware. 612 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: I become very aware that I have a phone compulsion addiction, 613 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: and an episode of my show. My guest was Pete Holmes, 614 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: and we were talking about it, and he kind of 615 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: held a unflattering mirror up to me regarding the in 616 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: in a in a gentle kind way, like regarding the 617 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: phone compulsion addiction and like not making me happy. And 618 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: so in that conversation I kind of realized, like, I 619 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: need to get a grip on this and probably be 620 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: on my phone less. So in light of that, I 621 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: felt like I went on like one last hurrah, and 622 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: just like the wheels came off and I barely saw 623 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: my family all weekend because I was just fighting with 624 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: anti factors online and it was such a waste of 625 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: time and it was so stupid, and I'm still irritated 626 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: that I spent my time that way, and I don't 627 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: think I moved the needle for anyone, But you know, ultimately, 628 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: I was just going back and forth with someone who's 629 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: like definitely a follower of Q who believes there's a 630 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: huge conspiracy going on and wouldn't even tell me what 631 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: the conspiracy is. She's like, you gotta go to this website, 632 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: make an account like this website where free speech is allowed, 633 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, why can't you you just tell me, 634 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: like this is like an MLM. Like she just wouldn't. 635 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: She's like, I've told you where to go to get 636 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: the information. It's called research, and it's so factual that 637 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: they have to behind it. I'm like, why can't you 638 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: just tell me? She's like, because you wouldn't believe, Like 639 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: you have to see it to believe it, to start 640 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: by accepting that everything you think you know is a lie. Okay, Okay, 641 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean no I haven't. It's so oh my god. 642 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 1: But but anyway, are like, ultimately does it all come 643 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: down to, like, are they followers of Q do they 644 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: believe there's a huge conspiracy? I think? Are they just dumb? 645 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? If? I mean, it's a good if 646 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: the door is creaky in a jar to to the 647 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: queue room, if you're in the lobby of anti vax 648 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: you know that's for sure. So it's easy to because 649 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: I mean, already there is so much conspiratorial thinking around 650 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: what this vaccine is or is not that I think 651 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: that's that's a really good right, good good soil, for 652 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: fertile soil for to be able to sprout new green 653 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: shoots of other conspiratorial thinking as well. But then there 654 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: are people who are just like you know, o G 655 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: like people who just don't like vaccines, who I'm somehow like, 656 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: how have how have you not gone to Q world 657 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: yet you're just still just being like no, man, it's 658 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: these vaccines just very narrowly because my whole thing is 659 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: like big pharma conspiracies. But I love Costco. Uh right, 660 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: all right, Uh maybe that's how you've justified your beliefs. 661 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think it's a it's a 662 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: broad spectrum, but I've definitely seen people go from flat 663 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: earth to Q or from flat earth to anti vaccine 664 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: to QUE. There's very there's I mean, hey, there's so 665 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: many ways you can get there. I'm just wondering what 666 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: these cops, Like, why are they It's the same with 667 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: healthcare workers who won't get the vaccine, Like what is 668 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: going on? And yet the vast majority of doctors who 669 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: have a greater understanding of medicine are vaccinated. Yeah, I 670 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: think there's there's with the cops. I think it's it 671 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: really boils down to the same people who had our 672 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: backs in the summer of are people who don't like vaccines, 673 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: so I think, and because there's a lot of overlap 674 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: there anyway. It was just sort of like, yeah, you know, 675 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: this isn't about what you say is a real vaccine 676 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm already in a sort of mindset where 677 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm not going to hand Joe Biden a win or 678 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: liberals a win or anything like that. So that's how 679 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm probably like looking at it, because there are cops 680 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: that are vaccinated who are just like, no, man, I've 681 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: seen so too many other cops died, So why the 682 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: funk would I do this? So even within that, I mean, 683 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, there it's hard to really parse 684 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: through all the differences, but I think a huge block 685 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: of these people are the same ones who are you know, 686 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: hate the a language of reforming law enforcement in any 687 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: shape or form, And because people who want to reform 688 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: law enforcement tend to also believe in vaccines, then it's 689 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: like just an athemat of them, right right. It's it's 690 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: also strikes me as like, hey, issue with just the 691 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: culture in police forces very much, you know it Well, 692 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: it started as with, you know, just just technologically the 693 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: stuff they were inheriting from the military was very much 694 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: like we're taking this technology of this war technology, these weapons, 695 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: these vehicles that the military uses in well like being 696 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: an invading force in a land where they view everybody 697 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: as an enemy. And that has always been but like 698 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: increasingly is how police forces view the communities that they 699 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: police in a lot like that seems to be the 700 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: mainstream way of viewing it. And so just having a 701 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: protest where there ways of operating is questioned, like I 702 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: think just I think you're right. It's just like created 703 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: this like cultural like rift in police forces where they 704 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: were just like all right, now now it's really on now, 705 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: like this is kind of what they always wanted to believe, 706 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: is that everybody was against them and that they were 707 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: the last good guys in a land that is like 708 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: lost its soul or whatever. And so now this and yeah, 709 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: there's a scary overlap between that and and queue, and 710 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like very This was always 711 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: like one of my big concerns when like in the 712 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of years of the Trump administration was that like 713 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: if they just openly got the police to join in 714 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: on whatever fucking wild conspiracy that he was going to 715 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: make up like that, that that's a pretty powerful force 716 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: that they have on their side. It felt like that 717 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: happened at times. Yeah, yeah, in small pockets. But it's 718 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: like one of those things like if suddenly, you know, 719 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: every every department was like, no, we're going lockstep with 720 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: what this guys saying, Yeah, then you truly have your 721 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: shock troops that are armed like on the streets to 722 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: write like remember an Oregon when when vans were picking 723 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: up protesters that, yeah, that felt like that was happening. Then, Yeah, 724 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: for sure, like in a in like that way where 725 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: they're like ship people are actually videotaping us. All right, 726 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: dial that back a little bit, but yeah, I mean 727 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: that's sort of I think like we've seen people feel 728 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: that based on how the president was talking when it 729 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: was Trump that then they suddenly they had carte blanche 730 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: to do whatever the funk they wanted. In some places, 731 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, quite took it that way. But and I 732 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: get that minds. I don't condone it at all. But 733 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: like I as an observer, I understand that mindset. I 734 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: just don't know how that extends to therefore I won't 735 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: get vaccinated. Like that's the link that I don't understand. 736 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: I think because on something just and I think just 737 00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: basic you know, psychological terms to take the vaccine would 738 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: acknowledge that you're in a situation that you're completely out 739 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: of control, like and where you're completely out of control 740 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: because they if I don't take it, and I don't, 741 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: I never got it, then I'm in control based on 742 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: my very narrow view of what control is or what 743 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: outside factors affect my life. But if you suddenly capitulate 744 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, fuck, yeah, I gotta I got the vaccine, 745 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: then now you're you're fully I can imagine. I'd imagine 746 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: like if you're so afraid to like to to relinquish 747 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: your perception of what control you have over your life too, 748 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: then to be like technology, there's ship that I'm not 749 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: in control of and this is the best thing to 750 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: protect me. That's just, again, I think, just too much 751 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: for somebody to go there, because it's easier to just 752 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: stay in this very rigid mindset where well, if I 753 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: don't do this, then it's fine because I've been okay 754 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: and I'm in control. It's just me and my god 755 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: given antibodies and the dozens of other vaccines that have 756 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: kept me alive to the point, it's about sunlight, vitamins, 757 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,959 Speaker 1: healthy food, natural menity, The person I was going back 758 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: and forth with told me she'll pray for me, because 759 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: clearly I've gotten the experimentally, isn't it I've gotten the 760 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: experimental job. I don't even want to find out what 761 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: I put in my body and that I probably have 762 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: about three years max. Yeah, them to pray for you, 763 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: isn't that so sweet? Well, at one point I just wrote, 764 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: Jesus is pro vax. I don't like, I don't know 765 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: what I was doing. Yeah, alright, where's that picture where 766 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: like you know those old like fucking paintings like of 767 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: Jesus doing yeah, exactly, like but Jesus getting vaccinated. Yeah, 768 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: that's I mean, someone should do that. They're at direct 769 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: cross purposes, although I guess you could when you're talking about, yeah, 770 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: the Haroin one. So there's a Haroin one where like 771 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: a junkie is like shooting up and Jesus is putting 772 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: his arm in place to be like, I'll take the 773 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: suffering for you, which actually just seems greedy if you yeah, 774 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: from the Hey look at this right, it's not like 775 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: Jesus is gonna have O d uh say the best 776 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: of all, but like why they could just be like that, 777 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: just label that vaccine and put that down there like 778 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: it would have the same message. Right, Oh yeah, helping 779 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: them avoid the vaccine. Right, and Christ is again once 780 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: again giving up his body so you can be free 781 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: in the Kingdom of Heaven. Oh my god, Jack, I 782 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: might have to I might have to switch lines here 783 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: and be like a psi op against like evangelicals. Oh man, Like, 784 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you really we're really thinking about this? 785 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: How Christ is you know when uh, you got the 786 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: vaccine and suddenly there was just one set of footsteps 787 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: on the beach. Why did you forsake me when I 788 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: got the job? Jesus was actually caring you over his 789 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: head like a w W wrestlers just about the body slam. Or. 790 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: You're a guy who says you had in your death 791 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: experience you went to the gates of heaven and they 792 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: almost sent you to hell because you weren't vaccinated. Because 793 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: you were vaccinated. Right, No, no, no, that you weren't. 794 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: Just to get more people on board, You're like, no, man, 795 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've never been more frightened than when 796 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 1: I looked St. Peter in his eyes and he said, 797 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: I will cast you to the depths of Hell for 798 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: not getting the Maderna Johnson and Johnson or fazer BioNTech 799 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: and I'm r Ana vaccinent. Okay, yeah, all right, let's 800 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and hopefully 801 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: we'll have time to talk about catch. Guy. I don't 802 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: know if we've left ourselves the forty five minutes that 803 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: the subject clearly deserves. But we'll see. And we're back, 804 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: and the question on everyone's lips is couch catch cheating 805 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: or are we just pathetic and very bored us? Yeah? People, 806 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: I did not know. Yeah, I did not know what 807 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: this was until you wrote this compelling story. And like me, 808 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: I need I need a younger person to ask me 809 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: what I think in a text mess by what huh? Who? Yeah? 810 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he cheating? But yes, the latest 811 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: TikTok fad is analyzing just a fairly innocuous video of 812 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: a young woman going to surprise her long distance boyfriend 813 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: at his college and she had helped from mutual friends 814 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: to pull the surprise off, and they even recorded it, 815 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: and she was just more like, this is a nice 816 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 1: moment and I just wanted to put it this. It's 817 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: very uneventful. I will describe it to you she enters 818 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: with her rollie bag. Some people in the apartment were like, oh, 819 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: look who it is there. Her boyfriend is on the 820 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 1: couch with two other women. He gets up slowly. He's 821 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 1: not outwardly, you know, like beaming with smiles or anything, 822 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: or jumping up and down or screaming or being smiling, 823 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: though he's covering his face like oh my god, like 824 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: it's but I've seen it's not. Yeah, I've seen surprise 825 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 1: party reactions though that are very similar. Like the person 826 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 1: just like almost feels like sheepish, like they've been tricked. 827 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,959 Speaker 1: They're happy, but like they're like, oh my god, you guys, 828 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,959 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. That's the sort of ambiguity that's 829 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: generating all of this talk. Because again, he gets up, 830 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: hugs are it's over. It's kind of boring if you 831 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: just look at it as you know, whatever video that 832 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: you think would go viral is there's like music playing 833 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: in it that sounds like some ship that would be 834 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: blaring out of like a Karen's car to call the 835 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: cops on you because a wheely on your bicycle in 836 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: front of her neighbor's house. Okay, but yeah, so I 837 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 1: think we've all seen the clip. Yes, yes, and again 838 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: this has created so much commentary and analysis where everyone goes, 839 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 1: the way this dude got up is sus. The way 840 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: that the two chicks on the couch they didn't do nothing, 841 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: They weren't happy or anything, suss. Yeah, I think he 842 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: had a woman's hair tie on his wrist, sus he was. 843 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: I think he hit his he got his phone from 844 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: underneath his arm. That the young woman sitting next to 845 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: him handing him suss. Why does she have his phone right? 846 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: And why are you handing it back like that like 847 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: you're doing like a you know, they like a coordinated, 848 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: coordinated body language thing. Yeah. So again I present to 849 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: you all you what is everyone's assessment is? First of all, 850 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: do you think it's so apparent that it deserves all 851 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: of this attention that or is it possible that he's 852 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: just awkward and was like, Yo, you're shooting this ship too. 853 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: I told you I hate this TikTok ship, but it 854 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: is I will just say at the outside, like there 855 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: are probably a hundred other examples of very similar videos 856 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,760 Speaker 1: because everything has been filmed on social media, very similar 857 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 1: videos where the person was clearly not happy to see 858 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: them this, I think is only becoming a thing because 859 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: it's so like down the middle and boring that you 860 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: can kind of project anything you want onto it and 861 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: with bad art friend all over again. Yeah, it's like 862 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: so I think. I think the point is not that 863 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: it's obvious. The point is that there are so many 864 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: fun boys out there who are like, oh, what are 865 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: you doing here? Why? Wait? Why did you? Why did 866 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: you come? Like you know who would respond to this 867 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: like in a very shady and obvious way. But the 868 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: fact that this person was kind of subdued and that 869 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 1: allows you to kind of both be outraged that people 870 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 1: are making a big deal out of it, or also 871 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: outraged on the behalf of the surprise. E is you 872 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: guys lady friends? Yeah? Yeah, but Alison, I want to 873 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: hear you. My reaction was, he doesn't seem excited to 874 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: see her. He didn't. Now I if I I'm wondering 875 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: if I had just seen it without knowing that you know, 876 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: that it was the couch guy video, if I might 877 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: have had a different reaction because I was primed to 878 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: notice things that seemed off. But I bought. I buy 879 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: into the idea that they are not going to last 880 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: because he really didn't see he didn't pop up. I 881 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: didn't see him smiling, but maybe he wasn't. I can't 882 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: see that well anymore. But I sound like I'm like 883 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: years old. Was the last this is my last podcast episode. 884 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: In my day, we watched Friends and Got Vaccine one 885 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: where Joey. But anyway, to me, the whole thing was 886 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: like passing the phone. I tried to see that and 887 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: see if there's anything to suspective about that. I that 888 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: didn't really read to me, but my in general, my 889 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: reaction was like, yeah, he really took a long time 890 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: to get up. He didn't seem overjoyed. However, in my day, 891 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 1: we smoked pot in college and we would have taken 892 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: a long time to get off the couch. So if 893 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 1: the answer was they were all really stoned, that would 894 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: explain everything to me. But no one has offered that. 895 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't. For me, I'm not in the camp that 896 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: he's cheating. I didn't see any cheat or tradecraft, so 897 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: to speak, occurring in the video. What would that be 898 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: over excitement? Yeah, yeah, just some some, just some. I 899 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: these are the things I would believe that I don't 900 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: know what year of college they're in, but trust me, 901 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: if it's the first two chances are he's checked the 902 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: funk out over a long distance relationship, and he was 903 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: probably sitting with these two ladies that who knows if 904 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: he I've been in that place. And you start being like, yeah, 905 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, just not working out between us. We barely 906 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: see because really what you're doing is you're you're being like, 907 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of open to ship, you know 908 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: what I mean, that's IM gonna come to you with 909 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: some of my problems right now. And it felt like 910 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: his energy may have been more like, oh, ship, she's here, y'all. 911 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: The one I was telling you a girl like how 912 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: you've been there's definitely I will give I will give that. 913 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: His his response is one that I would be a 914 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: little bit maybe upset about if I was the person surprising. 915 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I can see cheating off 916 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: the out the gate like other people are this. Do 917 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: you see the one where like the woman was analyzing 918 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: it and she's like these two other girls in the thing, 919 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: they are not her friend and other women know this. 920 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: They weren't happy for her when she came in. They 921 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: didn't get up and embrace her with open arms. Those 922 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: aren't your friends, And chances are they weren't because maybe 923 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: you just popped in on him in some random, really 924 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: nice apartment because that apartment was really nice. Why would 925 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: why would why would it? Why would you think they 926 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: were her friends. She's surprised that's exactly her boyfriend out 927 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: of college that she doesn't go to. He is smiling. 928 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 1: I'm just rewatching it over and over again. He's kind 929 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: of beaming and just like a little bit subdued and 930 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of being like, oh my god, like he I 931 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: can guarantee they're not going to stay together because they 932 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: are in a long distance relationship well and college. But 933 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: it has nothing, it has nothing to do with this 934 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: video and this whole thing, because people are looking at 935 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: this clip like the fuckings the Pruder film, trying to 936 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: be like, oh just just sprain here, like look look 937 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: going on there. No, no, no, no, no, this says everything, 938 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: even though it doesn't. There now the people that are 939 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: in the video are like so tired of all the attention. 940 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: Couch guy, he like he put out a tweet or 941 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: something he said, quote not everything is true crime, don't 942 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: be a para social creep. And then other people said 943 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 1: you can gaslight your girlfriends. You can't gaslight hold on, 944 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, This isn't even you. Y'all are 945 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: jumping into such conclusions. I cannot believe what I'm saying. 946 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: And then his roommate, couch Guy's roommate was like, people 947 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: are like putting like sneaking messages under our door, asking 948 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: about the video, and he said, well, y'all are so 949 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: fucking creepy. Sometimes I can't um he's and then just saying, 950 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: it's like watching a soap opera and knowing who the 951 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: bad guys. So there's just like all these weird you know, 952 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: everyone has a take. Everyone's insisting, even to the people 953 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: who are like, we're fine, that's it was just a 954 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: video I posted to be like commemorated thing, and now 955 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: we're subject of all this analysis. I wonder if all 956 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: this attention might hasten or delay there otherwise natural breakup. Though, 957 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: Think about what it must feel like to be them 958 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: right now, because they have to prove it's like Schrodinger's 959 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: couch Guy, like they have to you know, everyone's observing it, 960 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: and that's got to be a pressure cooker. Of course, 961 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: because if couch guys cheating for real, or if he 962 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: was going to break up, bro, you better buckle up 963 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: for the long haul here if they like that, because 964 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: in his mind, he's like like they fucking got me, 965 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: and I can't let him get I can't have an 966 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 1: update post from her, and they have read it being 967 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: like we know it, we were right. It is crazy 968 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: that this has gone viral to this degree though, because 969 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: it is such an otherwise boring video, very little happening. 970 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: There's I think a lot of people look get it, 971 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: like on TikTok, especially like people love to do deep 972 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: dives or like you know, anti vax or people have 973 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: been docked through like these like clever TikTok accounts, so 974 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: people like there's a language within TikTok to like get 975 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: deeply analytical. And I think it's just like, you know, 976 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: just in general, I think Americans, especially like they're just 977 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: are you know, Western culture. They're into solving ship you know, 978 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: like whether it's like snitching on your insurrectionist neighbors or 979 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: co workers on janius like kill let me just tell 980 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: you someone that guy was there. I've seen it on 981 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: his Facebook, or these other assholes who thought they solved 982 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 1: the szodiac killer case. People just I think, have this 983 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: desire to get to the bottom of stuff, and in 984 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: some cases it's like it's completely inappropriate or you have 985 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: you don't even have like the lightest semblance of the 986 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: facts to even begin to, you know, hypothesize about something. 987 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 1: But this is making me realize something. So I posted 988 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: a snippet of my back and forth in an Instagram 989 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: story with one of these anti vaxers, and she accused 990 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: me of doxing her, And I'm like, what are you 991 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: talking about that year you were commenting with me in 992 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: a public forum. But if on TikTok, if that's a 993 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: thing and they consider it doxing, that must be why 994 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 1: she said that. Or No, it'll be something where someone 995 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: will have an account that's like really popular, but it's hidden, 996 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: like you don't know who is behind it, and then 997 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: they'll sort of unmask the account. More so than just 998 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: being like people being like, hey, I have a rightful 999 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: expectation to privacy on Twitter. No you don't. You don't. 1000 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: That's what was Yeah, that's the thing, that's like you're 1001 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: we We were deep into Candice Cameron's post anti vax 1002 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: post and I had left I put a comment in there, 1003 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: and then she was going back and forth with me, 1004 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: and yet said that by my posting a snippet of 1005 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: that in a story which goes away, that's doxing her. 1006 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, please please, girlfriend, Oh hi, look 1007 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: at this person I'm talking to who's like coming up. 1008 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: You're not saying this is this person's full name, this 1009 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: is where they work, this is their address. But I 1010 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: guess for those people, they need those buzzwords to say, like, 1011 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they think you have some super 1012 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: powerful harassment account and they're gonna be I think I 1013 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: think she does, but yeah I don't. If you like, 1014 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: check the numbers, Okay, yeah, maybe you should be scared. Okay. 1015 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: Do we think this is related? Because the Zodiac Killer 1016 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: is one of the kind of recent zeitgeist phenomenon that 1017 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: could that I still haven't really made sense of, because 1018 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: it's almost like a new batch of people just joined 1019 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: the internet all on the same day and are like, 1020 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: we found the Zoe Killer, and it's like, what's your project, right, 1021 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: and like, you know, the FBI immediately came out and 1022 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: said that the claim that they identify the Zodiac Killer 1023 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: is inaccurate. The case remains open. We talked about like 1024 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: the evidence they've laid out so far, like some forehead 1025 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: wrinkle and his connection to a case that they the 1026 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: police already said is not connected to the Zodiac was 1027 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: based on a So it's like it's it's just but 1028 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: it got major pick up and like that's what everybody 1029 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: was talking about, how the Zodiac killer case had been 1030 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: cracked last week. Is there, like is TikTok like adding 1031 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: some a new infusion of energy to like the we 1032 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: solved it, like sort of thing that happened on Reddit 1033 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: for so long. I think it just gives I mean, 1034 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: maybe that there's another venue for it. I don't know 1035 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: if it's necessarily like a catalyst for increased desires to 1036 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: do that, but I think probably just in general, like 1037 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: in the last five years, with misinformation and things like that, 1038 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: people are I want to be in a place where 1039 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: they're like I won't get food again, and they want 1040 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,439 Speaker 1: to look at everything and and trying. I mean, because 1041 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: it would again back to this idea of control. If 1042 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: you look at even a normal TikTok video and say 1043 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: that guy's cheating and blah blah blah, and I know what, 1044 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: no further questions your honor, like I don't know if 1045 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that person's personal relationships might be 1046 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: like out in the out in the real world, But 1047 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it certainly gives a place 1048 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: to like project that energy and like in a way 1049 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: that I guess seems constructive or I guess because we're 1050 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,919 Speaker 1: commodifying everything in this age. Now you have a piece 1051 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,479 Speaker 1: of content where you can get some clip and wait, 1052 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 1: wait till they find out about the jfk assassination. That's 1053 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna really fuck some people up. That's your whole belief. 1054 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: You're like, come on, zoomers, bring bring Daddy home. Who 1055 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: didn't you knew it was that secret service guy who 1056 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:48,919 Speaker 1: aired shot? It was an accident. Alison as always such 1057 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and 1058 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: follow you? Follow me on social media? I promise I 1059 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: won't get into it with you at Alison Rosen on 1060 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram and then listen to my podcast Alison Rosen, 1061 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Is you your best friend and childish? And is there 1062 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media 1063 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Yes? Do you guys know Tim Calpakis 1064 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: know how that is? Have you had him on the show. 1065 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we've had him, but I'm a fame. 1066 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: He was my sketch. He was my first sketch comedy 1067 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: writing teacher. Really. So he's in the Birthday Boys and 1068 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: the Sloppy Boys, and he's been on my podcast a bunch, 1069 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: and he tweets it's at Tim Calpakis, but he like 1070 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: keeps changing the personality of who he's tweeting as, And 1071 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: for the longest time it was Linda Underwear, and now 1072 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 1: it's Beverly Mysterious. And Beverly mysterious. Is it's like the 1073 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: personality of someone who thinks they're breaking like gigantic bits 1074 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: of gossip. Like everything is like hushed and mysterious, and 1075 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm having trouble articulating the personality, but I just I'm 1076 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm endlessly amused by everything Tim tweets. And so an 1077 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: example of like a Beverly mysterious tweet is it seems 1078 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: a certain big butt rappers cousin's friend may not exactly 1079 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 1: have the tiniest balls anymore. And then it's an emoji 1080 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: of an eye. It's just like a lot of particulous 1081 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you, 1082 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram at Miles 1083 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: of Gray. Also their show four twenty Day Fiance was 1084 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Sophia Alexandro where we talk ninety day some tweets that 1085 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I like, Man, there's there are some good ones. Okay, 1086 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you might have to put me 1087 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: onto this people who go to Trader Joe's. But this 1088 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: is again this from test Lynch past guests at Mr 1089 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: test Lynch tweetd quote Trader Joe's employees have to congratulate 1090 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: you on your purchase denier until today when the checkout 1091 01:02:52,920 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 1: guy said this apple juice is so nice. And I 1092 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: was like, wait, is this a thing like at Trader 1093 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Joe's that they'll comment on the things here? Because I 1094 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: remember when I got spicy mango lemonade the other day. 1095 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: The manager, not even someone checking out, like oh that yeah, 1096 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: I see you, And I was like the fuck. And 1097 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean, like you know 1098 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink this with vodka later or what? That's good? 1099 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: So if that's true, I just like that idea, like 1100 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: that this apple juice is so nice. Um. And then 1101 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: one more from at Fat Nudes heck Bundy is this 1102 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: play name, says Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly are 1103 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: the Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton for zoomers. Some 1104 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter. 1105 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: Check underscore. Brian tweets of it enjoying. Ian Carmel tweeted 1106 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: twenty year older out here with baby pictures that just 1107 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: looked like a current picture of the baby and not 1108 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: like a grainy still from a true crime documentary like 1109 01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: the rest of us. And first Mate Pray It's at 1110 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: buck x Top tweeted, don't understand people who are productive 1111 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: during the weekend. Weekends are for feeling weird and wondering 1112 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: if your friends hate you. And then p J Evans tweeted, 1113 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Willie Wanka is so weird. I've had chocolate too, Bro, 1114 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: not gonna act all weird because of it. That Willy 1115 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Wanta's back because of the Timothy shallow May picture that 1116 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: we all want. All right, Wanta, You're proud of the 1117 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: character and you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. 1118 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have Facebook 1119 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: fan page and website. Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we 1120 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: post our episodes and our Footnope. We link off to 1121 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as 1122 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you guys might enjoy. Miles, 1123 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: what song are we sending them to today? We're gonna 1124 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: go out on a track called Vibrate from Mr Jukes 1125 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 1: and Barney Artists. This just sounds When I was listening 1126 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: to it at first, when the beat dropped, I'm like, 1127 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: is this like a unreleased track from like fucking Midnight 1128 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Marauders or something. So if you like Tribe and you 1129 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: like that boom bap, possible J Diller type production, this 1130 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: track has just just those good old nineties wrap vibes 1131 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: that I love. So this is Mr Jukes and Barney 1132 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Artists with Vibrate. Awesome. All right, well go check that out. 1133 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: The Daily Zicha is a production by Heart Radio from 1134 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: our podcast My Heart Radio, visit the heart Radio app, 1135 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 1136 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this morning, 1137 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 1: but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending 1138 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: and we'll touch you all then