WEBVTT - Going Undercover at the QAnon Conference

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On is now the most prolific online conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory of the twenty one century. None of their predictions

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<v Speaker 1>came true. Q has vanished and the storm never came,

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<v Speaker 1>but Q and On is still alive. I'm Jake Hanrahan,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Series two of Q Clearance, a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>shedding light on the ongoing Q and on conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a production of Kudatar Media and I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we'll be taking a look inside the fairly recent

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On Conference, a five hundred dollar a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>gathering for the Q and On true believers in Dallas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>This took place over the weekend of May twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so Memorial Weekend if you're an American. The conference's official

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<v Speaker 1>name was, awkwardly the Full Golden Country Patriot Roundup. It

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<v Speaker 1>hosted some major Q and On big wigs, including the

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<v Speaker 1>following people. Louie Gomert, a Republican attorney and former judge

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<v Speaker 1>serving as the US representative for Texas' first congressional district.

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<v Speaker 1>Allen West, a retired U S Army lieutenant colonel, politician

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<v Speaker 1>and former member of the US Congress, And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Flynn, a retired U s Army lieutenant general and

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<v Speaker 1>a former national security adviser to Donald Trump. He lasted

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<v Speaker 1>just twenty two days in that role before he was

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<v Speaker 1>forced to resign after he lied about his potential ties

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<v Speaker 1>to Russia. He was later given a pardon by Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump himself. Now we've mentioned him before, but Flynn has

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<v Speaker 1>been one of the most prominent big noises pledging unconditional

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<v Speaker 1>allegiance to Trump and Q and on. At this stage,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to think for him, at least, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even a grift. I think he's genuinely lost the plot

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Anyway, as you can see from the

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<v Speaker 1>three people I just mentioned, Q and on is very

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<v Speaker 1>much still alive and well, even within the realm of

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<v Speaker 1>semi influential people, even if they are disgraced in the mainstream.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it does sound kind of funny, but this Q

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<v Speaker 1>and on conference was taken very seriously by all participants,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can probably imagine, true to their authoritarian Q

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<v Speaker 1>and on ideals. Several journalists were kicked out of the event,

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<v Speaker 1>including reporters from Vice and The Daily Beast. One journalist

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<v Speaker 1>who did manage to infiltrate the Q and On conference

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<v Speaker 1>was Stephen Monicelli. He's a freelance reporter and researcher covering extremism,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the U S. He's going to give us

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<v Speaker 1>the bizarre inside scoop of what went down at the

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<v Speaker 1>so called the Full Golden Country Patriot Roundup a K A,

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<v Speaker 1>Q and ON Conference one. So there was this thing recently, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this this Q Q and on conference conference whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was called. You went to it, Um, maybe maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>explain for us, like what was it? What was the

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<v Speaker 1>point of this thing? It was hosted and organized by

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<v Speaker 1>a husband and wife team. They go by Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On John and Q Queen Amy, And in the run

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<v Speaker 1>up to this they tried to explicitly deny the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of the event and its relationship to the Q and

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<v Speaker 1>Q and ON movement. There's some good local coverage here

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<v Speaker 1>in a paper that I write for occasionally called The

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Observer, where they detailed this. Uh and of course

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<v Speaker 1>that's absurd given now only you know the blatant handles

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<v Speaker 1>that the organizers used in telegram, but also the featuring

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<v Speaker 1>of things like the acronym that stands for where we

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<v Speaker 1>go one we go all, which is something that was

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<v Speaker 1>cribbed from a movie called the squall, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>only something that people who are deep in this movement

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<v Speaker 1>would recognize or understand or use. Yes, you did hear

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<v Speaker 1>that right. A couple calling themselves Q and On John

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<v Speaker 1>and Q Queen Amy using the tag where we go

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<v Speaker 1>one we go all set up this Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>conference and at first try to say, no, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a Q and on conference. I swear to god, they

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<v Speaker 1>invited all the top Q and on big wigs. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know because ARMM was on the inside, it

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<v Speaker 1>very much was a Q and on conference. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>that confused. Listen on to any sort of baseline observer

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<v Speaker 1>that had a little bit of knowledge about what this

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<v Speaker 1>movement is. It was. It was blatantly a Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on conference, regardless of what they called it, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to stop like Q and on researchers

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<v Speaker 1>or anti q and on researchers. I guess um going.

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<v Speaker 1>I know several journalists were school it out. You managed

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<v Speaker 1>to get in right? How did you? How did you

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Right? So, uh, this happened in my own backyard. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm based here in Dallas, and I hadn't really initially

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<v Speaker 1>planned on going Uh. It wasn't something that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was necessary for me to attend. But I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that Travis view. Uh, when one of the hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>the Q Anonymous podcast had posted an email where he

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<v Speaker 1>had been explicitly rejected based on his coverage, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they basically said, you're not nice enough to people here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to refund your ticket. Uh So when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that, I thought to myself, oh, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>this should be interesting. I might as well go. Initially,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to go to Transparent Round. I had pitched

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<v Speaker 1>to a publication that's national here that I write for

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<v Speaker 1>pretty regularly, and they said, okay, well, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>try to get a press pass um. I foolishly tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Of course, they rejected it within an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>They just looked at who I was affiliated with and

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<v Speaker 1>decided that, you know, no, sorry, we're all full of

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<v Speaker 1>course that was a lie. So here you see the

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On's, the people that apparently love unfettered freedom

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<v Speaker 1>and absolute free speech, decided that they didn't want journalists

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<v Speaker 1>that were unkind to them in their conference. They even

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<v Speaker 1>pretended that there weren't enough tickets. So Stephen did what

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<v Speaker 1>he could, he basically had to go underground to the

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On conference and they were still selling tickets

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<v Speaker 1>for the general admission, and so I asked them, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, can I buy a ticket and will you

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<v Speaker 1>let me in? And they basically said, nope, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Better luck next time. So a local

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<v Speaker 1>source ended up buying a ticket on my behalf so

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<v Speaker 1>none of my information would be linked to the ticket purchase,

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<v Speaker 1>and they picked it up for me so I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to show my I d and the event

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to, and then they just passed it

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<v Speaker 1>along and I went inside. I just kind of dressed

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<v Speaker 1>the part. I shaved my beard, and I gave myself

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty basic white person's pseudonym, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had a little bit of a backstory so that if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody asked me who I was or what I did,

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd be able to chat my way through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had enough baseline knowledge of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>speakers and some of the sayings of the movement to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to blend in and you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>respond whenever people chatted with me, while mostly trying to

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<v Speaker 1>just kick it back to them to better understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they were there and you know what they were thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so you were there on the cover, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. I'm tell us what what did you

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<v Speaker 1>actually see this? What was you know, very clearly a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and on conference, I would describe the overall atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>is not unlike going to really sort of fervent fire

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<v Speaker 1>and Brimstone Church. But I guess, you know, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>pastor would be someone like Tucker Carlson. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>just the general tone and tenor of the event, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were, you know, getting really amped

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<v Speaker 1>up about the speakers. There were dozens of them over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the three days where they had speakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and that was the bulk of the event, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just people sitting in a room listening to speakers. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of that was captured on live streams

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<v Speaker 1>and that's accessible to folks that weren't there. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the really interesting and I think importantly contextual

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happened around those events that were not live streamed.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was an auction, for example, where they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to some veterans charities, which a bit

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<v Speaker 1>ironic at an event where they're openly promoting a military

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<v Speaker 1>coup where people were spending thousands of dollars on really

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<v Speaker 1>kitchy memorabilia that was either Q and On themed or

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War themed, where they were you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>lionizing these folks like Flynn and Sydney Powell, uh by

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<v Speaker 1>featuring them in these you know, often like photoshops portraits

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<v Speaker 1>of revolutionary era war paintings and portraits where they would

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put their faces over like George Washington and

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<v Speaker 1>describe them as these fighters that are fighting the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>early battles and shooting the first shots in this revolutionary war.

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<v Speaker 1>So that atmosphere was you know, kind of like a party.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all really into it. H some someone spent

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand, five hundred dollars on our shoddily made quilt

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<v Speaker 1>that had a big Q on it, nearly seven grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Spent on a Q and On quilt, a blanket, a

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<v Speaker 1>cube blanket, nearly seven grand. This is the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that was going on at the Q and On

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<v Speaker 1>conference in terms of the ruffles, the money making, and frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>if I may say, the grift, but what were people

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<v Speaker 1>actually talking about. Stephen was listening in and talking to

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<v Speaker 1>people genuinely trying to find out what is going on

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<v Speaker 1>within the Q and on world right now. So sat

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<v Speaker 1>down across a young man at lunch who he described,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was there because he's a believer that

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<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of international communist cabal or new world

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<v Speaker 1>order that's pulling all the strings and if only we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have that, then we could be colonizing the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>and Mars, and you know, we wouldn't have any war. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he he would speculate that once there's this

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<v Speaker 1>awakening and unmasking of these you know, big hidden conspiracies,

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<v Speaker 1>that then we would have this period of tumultuousness and

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<v Speaker 1>chaos which often sometimes people describe as the storm that

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<v Speaker 1>would lead to you know, this sort of new brave world.

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<v Speaker 1>Other folks were talking about, um, you know, how they

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<v Speaker 1>think Christians should have total control over the government and

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<v Speaker 1>they need to take it back. Uh. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of casual racism and oftentimes transphobia and other

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, which you know are not unique to

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<v Speaker 1>an event like this, but you know, they help us

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<v Speaker 1>understand the mindsets of some of the folks that were there,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably to just kind of sum up all the threads.

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<v Speaker 1>There's many of them, but it's it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a mix of you know, things that were rooted in

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<v Speaker 1>satanic panic. You know, this fear of eluciferian satanic pedophile cabal. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>These these you know, ideas of a hidden communist government

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<v Speaker 1>or new world globalist order. Uh. There's you know, fear

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<v Speaker 1>of some sort of national or international quote unquote deep state. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people reacting very positively to jokes about hanging

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<v Speaker 1>democratic politicians or you know, the open reference to an

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<v Speaker 1>embrace of the idea of a military coup. Uh. Not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that I spoke with would suddenly start espousing all

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<v Speaker 1>of these views was or even you know, even one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. You know, people were drawn to this for

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<v Speaker 1>a number of reasons, and all of them seem very

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<v Speaker 1>kind and normal when you just kind of chit chat

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<v Speaker 1>with them. But the more you maybe go down the

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<v Speaker 1>road of why are you here, who are you responding to?

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<v Speaker 1>The more it became clear that there's a set of

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<v Speaker 1>foundational beliefs underlying this movement that you know, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're necessarily new, but they're novelly composed

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this way where it attracts you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different people who ultimately seem like they're

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<v Speaker 1>attracted to this because they're afraid of either social change

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<v Speaker 1>or losing their you know, social position. Uh. They think,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, their values or culture is being lost

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<v Speaker 1>or dying or being forced out of existence. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so as a result, these these narratives are really appealing

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<v Speaker 1>to them because they give some explanation of who is

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<v Speaker 1>doing this or who are causing these perceived albums, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to any sort of systemic critique. Now, what Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>is saying here, I think is quite important. It's giving

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<v Speaker 1>you a small glimpse into the world of Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On and why they believe what they believe in. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it before. It's very easy to laugh and

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<v Speaker 1>sneer at them. What they believe in is frankly, absolutely ridiculous. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a reason so many of these people are

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<v Speaker 1>falling into the grasp of Q and On, even now

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<v Speaker 1>after all of the predictions failed and Q completely vanished.

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<v Speaker 1>Take this conference, for example, hundreds of people paying five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars a ticket to talk to each other about

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<v Speaker 1>why this secret Satanic cabal of politicians is soon going

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<v Speaker 1>to be smited by a military coup and Trump will

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Blah blah blah. This is why I think

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<v Speaker 1>the information Stephen got whilst talking candidly to the Q

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<v Speaker 1>and On people, it's very interesting. Each shows that when

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<v Speaker 1>times change, some people simply cannot let go surprised. That's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing new. We all knew this. But in the Internet age,

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<v Speaker 1>in the time of constant updates, very short attention spans,

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<v Speaker 1>and unrelenting conspiracy theories, the people that just cannot let

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<v Speaker 1>the old times go, cannot look at themselves, cannot self criticize,

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be falling in love with Q and On.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that says a lot. It says it cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be us, that's wrong, It's got to be everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of saying everyone else, they're also saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be one of the most insane, intricate, satanic,

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<v Speaker 1>evil conspiracy theories you've ever heard of. You get the

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<v Speaker 1>idea anyway, Stephen continues. Plenty of people on stage would

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<v Speaker 1>say things like, oh, it doesn't necessarily matter who Q

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<v Speaker 1>was or is. What it did was it awakened me,

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<v Speaker 1>It opened by eyes, it uh taught me to how

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<v Speaker 1>how to do my own research. Um. And so for

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<v Speaker 1>the really true believer types, whether they're true believers there grifters,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it matters, they would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basically say that it's irrelevant that these things that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, or that it's irrelevant that we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who Q is. What matters is that they've

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<v Speaker 1>created this movement and that they are continuing to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for uh, you know, things like the return of the

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<v Speaker 1>real president, which you know they mean Donald Trump. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The difficulty really though, is it is it is? It

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<v Speaker 1>is a horizontal movement. So there's no singular ideology, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no singular narrative. Um. We had everything from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people discussing how Q opened their eyes to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of the deep state, to someone discussing how,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, UFO technology is is being suppressed knowledge about

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<v Speaker 1>UFO technology is being suppressed. There was a common you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mentions of things like adren of chrome or gosh, chlorine dioxide.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all these things that have been debunked and

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have any roots in reality, and yet they persist.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that you know, Q has fallen into

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<v Speaker 1>the background, you know that they're sort of leader figure

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<v Speaker 1>has disappeared, it hasn't stopped some of the momentum, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's led to these figures like Flynn

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<v Speaker 1>and Sydney Powell and others to become the de facto

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<v Speaker 1>leaders of the movement. People would describe Flynn as the

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<v Speaker 1>General or you know, Sydney Pals the attorney general. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>they are lionized as these revolutionary leaders. Uh Q is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>but their influence remains and the town has been passed

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<v Speaker 1>to these these other leaders, while these other you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of adherents and promoters continue to find ways to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the narrative going, regardless of how many ways these

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<v Speaker 1>threads have frayed. Yeah, definitely man Um. In terms of

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Flynn, Um, he was given some kind of talk, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what was this guy going on about? He he at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, you know, the most viral clip that's come

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<v Speaker 1>out of this is he responded to a question about

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<v Speaker 1>why can't what happened in me and mar happened here?

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<v Speaker 1>And he answered in a way that suggested he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>it should happen. And the cup basically correct correct a

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<v Speaker 1>military coup based on these notions of a fraudulent election,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically what happened to me and mar I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that the election was fraudulent, but that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative that fueled this military coup. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to embrace some of that. He was peddling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the typical ideas that there there is some force that

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<v Speaker 1>is fighting against them, and that if you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>stick to the plan, basically, you know, they'll keep moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard that, right. Mike Flynn, a retired U. S

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<v Speaker 1>Army lieutenant general who was the twenty five U S

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<v Speaker 1>National Security adviser for Donald Trump, did not say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't have an armed military coup in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what he actually said when again, someone said

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<v Speaker 1>should we have a military backed coup in the States

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<v Speaker 1>like they had in Miama? Recently? Trump one, Hey won,

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<v Speaker 1>he won, he won the popular vote. He won the

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<v Speaker 1>popular vote, and he won the other oral college volt

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<v Speaker 1>and people think q and On is no longer a

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<v Speaker 1>threat now. Mike Flynn later walked all of that back

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, saying, no, I don't think there should

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<v Speaker 1>be a coup, but they're in the fever pitch of

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<v Speaker 1>the Q and on conference, hundreds of people there, they

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<v Speaker 1>all paid a lot of money to get in, and

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<v Speaker 1>they see this guy that they call the General and

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<v Speaker 1>he says Trump won, he won fair and square. When

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<v Speaker 1>someone asks him if there should be a US military coup,

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<v Speaker 1>it hardly screams, let's remain peaceful. Q Clearance is brought

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