1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Q and On is now the most prolific online conspiracy 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: theory of the twenty one century. None of their predictions 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: came true. Q has vanished and the storm never came, 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: but Q and On is still alive. I'm Jake Hanrahan, 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: and this is Series two of Q Clearance, a podcast 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: shedding light on the ongoing Q and on conspiracy theory. 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: This is a production of Kudatar Media and I Heart Radio. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Today we'll be taking a look inside the fairly recent 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Q and On Conference, a five hundred dollar a ticket 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: gathering for the Q and On true believers in Dallas, Texas. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: This took place over the weekend of May twenty nine, 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: so Memorial Weekend if you're an American. The conference's official 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: name was, awkwardly the Full Golden Country Patriot Roundup. It 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: hosted some major Q and On big wigs, including the 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: following people. Louie Gomert, a Republican attorney and former judge 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: serving as the US representative for Texas' first congressional district. 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Allen West, a retired U S Army lieutenant colonel, politician 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: and former member of the US Congress, And of course, 19 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Mike Flynn, a retired U s Army lieutenant general and 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: a former national security adviser to Donald Trump. He lasted 21 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: just twenty two days in that role before he was 22 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: forced to resign after he lied about his potential ties 23 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: to Russia. He was later given a pardon by Donald 24 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Trump himself. Now we've mentioned him before, but Flynn has 25 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: been one of the most prominent big noises pledging unconditional 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: allegiance to Trump and Q and on. At this stage, 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think for him, at least, it's not 28 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: even a grift. I think he's genuinely lost the plot 29 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: a little bit. Anyway, as you can see from the 30 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: three people I just mentioned, Q and on is very 31 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: much still alive and well, even within the realm of 32 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: semi influential people, even if they are disgraced in the mainstream. 33 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: Now it does sound kind of funny, but this Q 34 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: and on conference was taken very seriously by all participants, 35 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: as you can probably imagine, true to their authoritarian Q 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: and on ideals. Several journalists were kicked out of the event, 37 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: including reporters from Vice and The Daily Beast. One journalist 38 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: who did manage to infiltrate the Q and On conference 39 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: was Stephen Monicelli. He's a freelance reporter and researcher covering extremism, 40 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: particularly in the U S. He's going to give us 41 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: the bizarre inside scoop of what went down at the 42 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: so called the Full Golden Country Patriot Roundup a K A, 43 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Q and ON Conference one. So there was this thing recently, right, 44 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: this this Q Q and on conference conference whatever it 45 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: was called. You went to it, Um, maybe maybe just 46 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: explain for us, like what was it? What was the 47 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: point of this thing? It was hosted and organized by 48 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: a husband and wife team. They go by Q and 49 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: On John and Q Queen Amy, And in the run 50 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: up to this they tried to explicitly deny the nature 51 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: of the event and its relationship to the Q and 52 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: Q and ON movement. There's some good local coverage here 53 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: in a paper that I write for occasionally called The 54 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Observer, where they detailed this. Uh and of course 55 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: that's absurd given now only you know the blatant handles 56 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: that the organizers used in telegram, but also the featuring 57 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: of things like the acronym that stands for where we 58 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: go one we go all, which is something that was 59 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: cribbed from a movie called the squall, and it's really 60 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: only something that people who are deep in this movement 61 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: would recognize or understand or use. Yes, you did hear 62 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: that right. A couple calling themselves Q and On John 63 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: and Q Queen Amy using the tag where we go 64 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: one we go all set up this Q and on 65 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: conference and at first try to say, no, it's not 66 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: a Q and on conference. I swear to god, they 67 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: invited all the top Q and on big wigs. Of course, 68 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: as we know because ARMM was on the inside, it 69 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: very much was a Q and on conference. Don't get 70 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: that confused. Listen on to any sort of baseline observer 71 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: that had a little bit of knowledge about what this 72 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: movement is. It was. It was blatantly a Q and 73 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: on conference, regardless of what they called it, right, And 74 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: they were trying to stop like Q and on researchers 75 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: or anti q and on researchers. I guess um going. 76 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: I know several journalists were school it out. You managed 77 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: to get in right? How did you? How did you 78 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: do that? Right? So, uh, this happened in my own backyard. Basically, 79 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: I'm based here in Dallas, and I hadn't really initially 80 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: planned on going Uh. It wasn't something that I thought 81 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: it was necessary for me to attend. But I saw 82 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: that Travis view. Uh, when one of the hosts of 83 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: the Q Anonymous podcast had posted an email where he 84 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: had been explicitly rejected based on his coverage, and you know, 85 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: they basically said, you're not nice enough to people here, 86 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: so we're going to refund your ticket. Uh So when 87 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I saw that, I thought to myself, oh, okay, well 88 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: this should be interesting. I might as well go. Initially, 89 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: I tried to go to Transparent Round. I had pitched 90 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: to a publication that's national here that I write for 91 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: pretty regularly, and they said, okay, well, why don't you 92 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: try to get a press pass um. I foolishly tried 93 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: to do that. Of course, they rejected it within an hour. 94 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: They just looked at who I was affiliated with and 95 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: decided that, you know, no, sorry, we're all full of 96 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: course that was a lie. So here you see the 97 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Q and On's, the people that apparently love unfettered freedom 98 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: and absolute free speech, decided that they didn't want journalists 99 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: that were unkind to them in their conference. They even 100 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: pretended that there weren't enough tickets. So Stephen did what 101 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: he could, he basically had to go underground to the 102 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: Q and On conference and they were still selling tickets 103 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: for the general admission, and so I asked them, hey, 104 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, can I buy a ticket and will you 105 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: let me in? And they basically said, nope, that's not 106 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: going to happen. Better luck next time. So a local 107 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: source ended up buying a ticket on my behalf so 108 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: none of my information would be linked to the ticket purchase, 109 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: and they picked it up for me so I, you know, 110 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to show my I d and the event 111 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: that I had to, and then they just passed it 112 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: along and I went inside. I just kind of dressed 113 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: the part. I shaved my beard, and I gave myself 114 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: a pretty basic white person's pseudonym, and uh, you know, 115 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a backstory so that if 116 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: anybody asked me who I was or what I did, 117 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: that I'd be able to chat my way through it. 118 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: And I had enough baseline knowledge of you know, the 119 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: speakers and some of the sayings of the movement to 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: be able to blend in and you know, kind of 121 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: respond whenever people chatted with me, while mostly trying to 122 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: just kick it back to them to better understand why 123 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: they were there and you know what they were thinking. 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Um so you were there on the cover, you got 125 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: to see it. I'm tell us what what did you 126 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: actually see this? What was you know, very clearly a 127 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Q and on conference, I would describe the overall atmosphere 128 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: is not unlike going to really sort of fervent fire 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: and Brimstone Church. But I guess, you know, maybe the 130 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: pastor would be someone like Tucker Carlson. So that was 131 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: just the general tone and tenor of the event, and 132 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people were, you know, getting really amped 133 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: up about the speakers. There were dozens of them over 134 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: the course of the three days where they had speakers. 135 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Uh and that was the bulk of the event, right, 136 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, just people sitting in a room listening to speakers. Uh. 137 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of that was captured on live streams 138 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: and that's accessible to folks that weren't there. But a 139 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: lot of the really interesting and I think importantly contextual 140 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: stuff happened around those events that were not live streamed. 141 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: So there was an auction, for example, where they're saying 142 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: it was going to some veterans charities, which a bit 143 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: ironic at an event where they're openly promoting a military 144 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: coup where people were spending thousands of dollars on really 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: kitchy memorabilia that was either Q and On themed or 146 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Revolutionary War themed, where they were you know, sort of 147 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: lionizing these folks like Flynn and Sydney Powell, uh by 148 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: featuring them in these you know, often like photoshops portraits 149 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: of revolutionary era war paintings and portraits where they would 150 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, put their faces over like George Washington and 151 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: describe them as these fighters that are fighting the you know, 152 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: early battles and shooting the first shots in this revolutionary war. 153 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: So that atmosphere was you know, kind of like a party. 154 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: They were all really into it. H some someone spent 155 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: six thousand, five hundred dollars on our shoddily made quilt 156 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: that had a big Q on it, nearly seven grand. 157 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Spent on a Q and On quilt, a blanket, a 158 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: cube blanket, nearly seven grand. This is the sort of 159 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: thing that was going on at the Q and On 160 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: conference in terms of the ruffles, the money making, and frankly, 161 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: if I may say, the grift, but what were people 162 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: actually talking about. Stephen was listening in and talking to 163 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: people genuinely trying to find out what is going on 164 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: within the Q and on world right now. So sat 165 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: down across a young man at lunch who he described, 166 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, he was there because he's a believer that 167 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: there's some sort of international communist cabal or new world 168 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: order that's pulling all the strings and if only we 169 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't have that, then we could be colonizing the Moon 170 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: and Mars, and you know, we wouldn't have any war. Uh. 171 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: You know, he he would speculate that once there's this 172 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: awakening and unmasking of these you know, big hidden conspiracies, 173 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: that then we would have this period of tumultuousness and 174 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: chaos which often sometimes people describe as the storm that 175 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: would lead to you know, this sort of new brave world. 176 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: Other folks were talking about, um, you know, how they 177 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: think Christians should have total control over the government and 178 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: they need to take it back. Uh. You know, there's 179 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: a lot of casual racism and oftentimes transphobia and other 180 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: things like that, which you know are not unique to 181 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: an event like this, but you know, they help us 182 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: understand the mindsets of some of the folks that were there, 183 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: and probably to just kind of sum up all the threads. 184 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: There's many of them, but it's it's just kind of 185 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: a mix of you know, things that were rooted in 186 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: satanic panic. You know, this fear of eluciferian satanic pedophile cabal. Uh. 187 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: These these you know, ideas of a hidden communist government 188 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: or new world globalist order. Uh. There's you know, fear 189 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: of some sort of national or international quote unquote deep state. Uh. 190 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, people reacting very positively to jokes about hanging 191 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: democratic politicians or you know, the open reference to an 192 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: embrace of the idea of a military coup. Uh. Not 193 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: everybody that I spoke with would suddenly start espousing all 194 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: of these views was or even you know, even one 195 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: of them. You know, people were drawn to this for 196 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: a number of reasons, and all of them seem very 197 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: kind and normal when you just kind of chit chat 198 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: with them. But the more you maybe go down the 199 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: road of why are you here, who are you responding to? 200 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: The more it became clear that there's a set of 201 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: foundational beliefs underlying this movement that you know, as I mentioned, 202 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they're necessarily new, but they're novelly composed 203 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: in this in this way where it attracts you know 204 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of different people who ultimately seem like they're 205 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: attracted to this because they're afraid of either social change 206 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: or losing their you know, social position. Uh. They think, 207 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: maybe you know, their values or culture is being lost 208 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: or dying or being forced out of existence. Uh. And 209 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: so as a result, these these narratives are really appealing 210 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: to them because they give some explanation of who is 211 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: doing this or who are causing these perceived albums, as 212 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: opposed to any sort of systemic critique. Now, what Stephen 213 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: is saying here, I think is quite important. It's giving 214 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: you a small glimpse into the world of Q and 215 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: On and why they believe what they believe in. Yes, 216 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: I've said it before. It's very easy to laugh and 217 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: sneer at them. What they believe in is frankly, absolutely ridiculous. However, 218 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: there is a reason so many of these people are 219 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: falling into the grasp of Q and On, even now 220 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: after all of the predictions failed and Q completely vanished. 221 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Take this conference, for example, hundreds of people paying five 222 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a ticket to talk to each other about 223 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: why this secret Satanic cabal of politicians is soon going 224 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: to be smited by a military coup and Trump will 225 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: come back. Blah blah blah. This is why I think 226 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the information Stephen got whilst talking candidly to the Q 227 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: and On people, it's very interesting. Each shows that when 228 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: times change, some people simply cannot let go surprised. That's 229 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: nothing new. We all knew this. But in the Internet age, 230 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: in the time of constant updates, very short attention spans, 231 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: and unrelenting conspiracy theories, the people that just cannot let 232 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: the old times go, cannot look at themselves, cannot self criticize, 233 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: seem to be falling in love with Q and On. 234 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I think that says a lot. It says it cannot 235 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: be us, that's wrong, It's got to be everyone else. 236 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: But instead of saying everyone else, they're also saying it's 237 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: got to be one of the most insane, intricate, satanic, 238 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: evil conspiracy theories you've ever heard of. You get the 239 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: idea anyway, Stephen continues. Plenty of people on stage would 240 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: say things like, oh, it doesn't necessarily matter who Q 241 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: was or is. What it did was it awakened me, 242 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: It opened by eyes, it uh taught me to how 243 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: how to do my own research. Um. And so for 244 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: the really true believer types, whether they're true believers there grifters, 245 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it matters, they would you know, 246 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: basically say that it's irrelevant that these things that maybe 247 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: didn't happen, or that it's irrelevant that we you know, 248 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: don't know who Q is. What matters is that they've 249 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: created this movement and that they are continuing to fight 250 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: for uh, you know, things like the return of the 251 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: real president, which you know they mean Donald Trump. Um. 252 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: The difficulty really though, is it is it is? It 253 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: is a horizontal movement. So there's no singular ideology, there's 254 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: no singular narrative. Um. We had everything from you know, 255 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: people discussing how Q opened their eyes to you know, 256 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: this idea of the deep state, to someone discussing how, 257 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, UFO technology is is being suppressed knowledge about 258 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: UFO technology is being suppressed. There was a common you know, 259 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: mentions of things like adren of chrome or gosh, chlorine dioxide. 260 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, all these things that have been debunked and 261 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: don't really have any roots in reality, and yet they persist. 262 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: So the fact that you know, Q has fallen into 263 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: the background, you know that they're sort of leader figure 264 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: has disappeared, it hasn't stopped some of the momentum, and 265 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: I think it's it's led to these figures like Flynn 266 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: and Sydney Powell and others to become the de facto 267 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: leaders of the movement. People would describe Flynn as the 268 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: General or you know, Sydney Pals the attorney general. Uh 269 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: they are lionized as these revolutionary leaders. Uh Q is gone, 270 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: but their influence remains and the town has been passed 271 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: to these these other leaders, while these other you know, 272 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: sort of adherents and promoters continue to find ways to 273 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: keep the narrative going, regardless of how many ways these 274 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: threads have frayed. Yeah, definitely man Um. In terms of 275 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Mike Flynn, Um, he was given some kind of talk, right, 276 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: what was this guy going on about? He he at 277 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: one point, you know, the most viral clip that's come 278 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: out of this is he responded to a question about 279 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: why can't what happened in me and mar happened here? 280 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: And he answered in a way that suggested he thinks 281 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: it should happen. And the cup basically correct correct a 282 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: military coup based on these notions of a fraudulent election, 283 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: which is basically what happened to me and mar I'm 284 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: not saying that the election was fraudulent, but that's you know, 285 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: the narrative that fueled this military coup. But yeah, he 286 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: seemed to embrace some of that. He was peddling, you know, 287 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: the typical ideas that there there is some force that 288 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: is fighting against them, and that if you know, they 289 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: stick to the plan, basically, you know, they'll keep moving forward. 290 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: You heard that, right. Mike Flynn, a retired U. S 291 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Army lieutenant general who was the twenty five U S 292 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: National Security adviser for Donald Trump, did not say, no, 293 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: we shouldn't have an armed military coup in the US. 294 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: This is what he actually said when again, someone said 295 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: should we have a military backed coup in the States 296 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: like they had in Miama? Recently? Trump one, Hey won, 297 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: he won, he won the popular vote. He won the 298 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: popular vote, and he won the other oral college volt 299 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: and people think q and On is no longer a 300 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: threat now. Mike Flynn later walked all of that back 301 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: on social media, saying, no, I don't think there should 302 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: be a coup, but they're in the fever pitch of 303 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the Q and on conference, hundreds of people there, they 304 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: all paid a lot of money to get in, and 305 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: they see this guy that they call the General and 306 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: he says Trump won, he won fair and square. When 307 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: someone asks him if there should be a US military coup, 308 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: it hardly screams, let's remain peaceful. Q Clearance is brought 309 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: to you by iHeart Radio and Kudata Media. I'm Jake Hanrahan. 310 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: You can find me online at Jake Underscore and Rahan 311 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: that's h A N A h A N. You can 312 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: get Q Clearance merch at dark washed dot net. This 313 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: episode was produced by myself, with fact checking and additional 314 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: research by Sarah hit Out. The music is by Sound 315 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Black and the sound was mixed by Thomas Griffin at 316 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Splicing Block.