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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast watches Succession on a Monday

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Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Dan Hands is here with heroes Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: I make a point to actually watch it on Sunday

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Speaker 1: night with the wife. It's to get home, knock it

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Speaker 1: out in the hay. That's what it's like. That's married, like,

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Speaker 1: that's treating yourself. That is that's living right there. And

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Speaker 1: I I want to say, and you know we are

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Speaker 1: you know, we try to keep ourselves distanced from it,

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Speaker 1: but the reality is is that we are employees of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean there's you can't you

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Speaker 1: can't get around that, like that's they Roger, He's the

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Speaker 1: one sign of the paycheck, okay. And with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a responsibility two the audience. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: that's the global audience, not just the end of around

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Speaker 1: the NFL audience. UH, to to be upfront when we

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Speaker 1: see something that a statement needs to be made based

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Speaker 1: on the action today. So Ricky, can I get the

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Speaker 1: miss of music? And this wasn't sanctioned by anyone above us, okay,

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Speaker 1: but we're happy to hear it. I think you're he'll

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Speaker 1: be okay, well, Greg will probably it's probably about Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridgewaters lack of a tackle now no, but we will

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Speaker 1: get to that later in the show. Here at the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, we strive for excellence on a weekend

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Speaker 1: and week out basis. Our goal is delivered to you

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Speaker 1: the fan, a quality product every Sunday from September through February,

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Speaker 1: and we understand that we failed to clear that lofty

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Speaker 1: bar in week ten. We are working diligently to diagnose

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Speaker 1: the issues that led to today's decline and product and

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Speaker 1: appreciate your support and patients moving forward. Please forward any

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Speaker 1: remaining concerns over gameplay too at Mark Sesssler on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bear the brunt of a Sunday that did

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Speaker 1: not deliver due to a host of blowouts. Somebody has

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Speaker 1: to be just the game, okay. Was the game play

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Speaker 1: in general? It was? I don't think this was like, uh,

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Speaker 1: the best Sunday, but I I was. I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 1: what they asked For the most part. This feels a

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Speaker 1: bit beyond but that's okay. I think Brian McCarthy will

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Speaker 1: be cool that statement over there in NFL PR right.

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Speaker 1: I mean I I wasn't sure where it was going.

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Speaker 1: I was like, is this specifically from the Browns and

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Speaker 1: that's why Mark has to apologize? Like, what is what's

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Speaker 1: going on now? I thought it was pretty clear the state. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: off the day you can apologize to me. I think

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Speaker 1: the league or shield the the issues. I said, any

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Speaker 1: any other issues from the fans, right forward to them,

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Speaker 1: Funnel it to Mark Sessler uh in his Twitter mentions,

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Speaker 1: and then you'll handle any kind of the backlash. Just

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Speaker 1: keep it, keep it in the public. It's like you

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Speaker 1: need to have bad Sundays or you don't even know

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Speaker 1: have a tie at least once a season so you

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Speaker 1: know how like great it is to have wins and

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Speaker 1: losses and all the rest of the briskes. Feels like

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Speaker 1: the guy that should be, you know, absorbing. What is

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Speaker 1: the speaking of succession the Roys, they have this term

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Speaker 1: Greg just spun gold. There he would, but he would

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Speaker 1: do well in that family based on what we've seen.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Give me the miss of music

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Speaker 1: on more time then that. Now that we've recrafted and

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Speaker 1: shifted the narrative, fans chill out, shell Ax, Bros and

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Speaker 1: sis is Uh. If you didn't have bad weeks, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't truly enjoy the good ones. So you're welcome. See

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Speaker 1: you next Sunday. Contrast, are fans angry about today? I

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Speaker 1: there you're happy. Not everyone Greg Gibson, your little road start.

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Speaker 1: No more on the matter. That's what statements are for.

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Speaker 1: They speak for the entire organization. And again, Brian McCarthy

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Speaker 1: and all the games that were played on this highly

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Speaker 1: Wilson off play action, deep drop, plenty of time, rainbows

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Speaker 1: second pock by acred Amos run in. Spectacular play by US,

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because every week that they play better, they

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Speaker 1: Well it's factual. What am I gonna say? No pounds?

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Speaker 1: Three time pro bowler Cam Newton McCaffrey swings out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield, Why to the right, Newton's gonna run right

431
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Speaker 1: in the grass, breaks a tackle. Everybody touchdown right side,

432
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Speaker 1: first play a touchdown. Cam Newton was active and advantage

433
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Speaker 1: for him for the Panthers on Sunday, throwing for a touchdown,

434
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Speaker 1: running for another, and sparking Carolina to a thirty four

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Speaker 1: to ten win over the Cardinals, who were played shorthanded.

436
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Speaker 1: In sure looked like it in this one. Greg Rosen

437
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: thought a statement victory for Carolina and for Cam and

438
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 1: he sent the message to the rest of the end

439
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: fell hey here in this moment. It was a lot

440
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Speaker 1: and uh, if nothing else happens, uh positive for the

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00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: Panthers this year. At least they had this, and I

442
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: expect them to matter, uh moving forward with Cam Newton.

443
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Speaker 1: But just to imagine that this was possible, like a

444
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago would have would have blown. I

445
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: might to keep it in perspective. He had eight yards

446
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Speaker 1: you know, passing. He threw the ball four times in

447
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: fourteen yards rushing. They won this game because p. J.

448
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: Walker was good enough, moved the ball and the defense

449
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: was dominant. But what Cam Newton brings other than obviously

450
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Speaker 1: some short yardage chops and he'll take over that starting

451
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Speaker 1: job soon soon enough. Was energy. I guess I gotta like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta believe like Christian McCaffrey and Hassan Reddick, who

453
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Speaker 1: both said the energy before the game and giving Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton credit, you know for a big part of that

455
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Speaker 1: was unlike anything he had ever seen, was what Hassan

456
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Speaker 1: Reddick said, and mcca affrey Wood said like this was

457
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: just like a wild um feeling from the team. They

458
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: were so hyped for this game. Reddick, of course a

459
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Speaker 1: former cardinal too. You're not gonna give Cam all the

460
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Speaker 1: credit for just like off field stuff, but that is

461
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Speaker 1: part of what he brings to you is a guy

462
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Speaker 1: that like everyone has hyped to play with, and they

463
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Speaker 1: just destroyed. Arizona was over quickly, you could tell. I.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the first or the

465
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Speaker 1: second touchdown, but McCaffrey and all the other Panthers just

466
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: swarmed Cam. And I think one thing to make clear,

467
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Speaker 1: because I saw somebody on Twitter Panthers fan. They weren't

468
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: They were cool about it, but they were like, hey,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, you were really burying the Panthers about what

470
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Speaker 1: what's been happening with the quarterback situation? Like you don't

471
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Speaker 1: understand the Panthers fans were excited about this, and I

472
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Speaker 1: was like, this had nothing to do any criticism about

473
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Speaker 1: the Panthers was about the organization. If I'm a fan

474
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Speaker 1: of the Panthers and I grew up on Cam Newton,

475
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Speaker 1: this is awesome. This is completely unexpected, and now he's

476
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Speaker 1: pumping He's back on your team and pumping fresh life

477
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: into a season that felt like it was a deflating balloon.

478
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Speaker 1: Mark Cecil, Yeah, I mean for their fan I've heard

479
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: from some too. I couldn't agree with you more. And Matt,

480
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Speaker 1: this is not the plan at all. That Matt rule.

481
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Speaker 1: If you think it was weird for you, Matt Rule

482
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Speaker 1: probably feels like twelve days ago. I had no idea

483
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Speaker 1: this is where I'd be either. But why not? I

484
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Speaker 1: mean totally why not? And whether you're into the Cam

485
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Speaker 1: Newton experience, the overall one or not, I'm somewhere in

486
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Speaker 1: the middle on it. Um it is. It is interesting

487
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: to me that it's happening. Well, no, because it's look

488
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Speaker 1: like honestly, they were in such a dark place and

489
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Speaker 1: you have to look at like for the for the

490
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald business, like you've never thought, oh well, Sam Donald,

491
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Speaker 1: if anything, is gonna bring intense energy to the locker room.

492
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Speaker 1: There's been a void of that at quarterback, and so

493
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Speaker 1: that can change things. Yeah, I think Donald and I

494
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 1: love Sam Donald. It's sad what's happened with his career, um,

495
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Speaker 1: but he's never been like some type of dynamic leader

496
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Speaker 1: of men. And Cam is like a guy who's just

497
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: got like he's dripping with charisma. So like all these things,

498
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: you it makes sense why the organization like it was

499
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: such a shot in the arm, and it also like

500
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Speaker 1: makes you think. And I know, once we see Cam

501
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Speaker 1: playing and you're gonna get a better idea of who

502
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: he is now compared to where he was five or

503
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: six years ago. He's not the same player anymore. But

504
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: he probably should have been on a team of two

505
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: months ago. I think he wanted to start, you know,

506
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: and there weren't opportunities to start. And now now now

507
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: there is one and he's getting paid well for you know,

508
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Speaker 1: I think he'll get a little more juice in his

509
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: legs as it comes. But he was a great goal

510
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: line runner and he was a very good runner in general.

511
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Speaker 1: He brings that, you know, element to the table. I

512
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: mean last year in New England. Like, we don't need

513
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Speaker 1: to project how he's gonna be helping them in the

514
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Speaker 1: red zone. With McCaffrey, who had a really nice game overall.

515
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Speaker 1: He did go out with a head injury briefly, but

516
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Speaker 1: they said after the game he's totally fine. He'll be

517
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Speaker 1: good for next week. All this said, it's like they

518
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Speaker 1: won because their defense, you know, bum rush cult McCoy.

519
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean the first almost the first play of the game,

520
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick uh forces a fumball on McCoy, who also

521
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: throws an interception later in the first quarter. It was

522
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Speaker 1: a two touched on lead at that point. And this

523
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Speaker 1: Panthers defense, I know, they're not like amazing each and

524
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: every week against some great competition, but when Shack Thompson

525
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: has been on the field, and he was everywhere today again,

526
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: they've been pretty special. They've been one of the best

527
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Speaker 1: defenses in the league. They're five and five. They are

528
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: in the playoffs if it ended today. I know that

529
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything, but they are in that ugly NFC mix,

530
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Speaker 1: and I think with the defense that good, they'll probably

531
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Speaker 1: stay in that mix until the end. They're totally relevant

532
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: and it you know, it pains me to say it,

533
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: but the backup experience, the backup quarterback experience, because I

534
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: think we all like kind of super fall for these

535
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: dudes for for the week after they succeed. And I

536
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: was totally viable on the Cult McCoy front to do that,

537
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: But it's the Mike White experience. You love these guys

538
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: rising up out of nowhere, and it kind of reminds

539
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: us of like if we were thrown into a lineup

540
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: in our deep fantasies. I mean, it would be much worse.

541
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Speaker 1: But you know, it just doesn't last two doesn't last

542
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. You're the other shoe always,

543
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: That's what. And Colt McCoy and any other guy Mike

544
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: White their competitors, so they want to be out there.

545
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: But in truth, the best thing for their careers would

546
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Speaker 1: be just to have the game and then disappear again.

547
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: But I think Cold, you know, Cold brought another two

548
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: to three seasons with last week. He'll be all right.

549
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: It's a big loss, though, you know, the Rams are

550
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: still coming up on Monday Night, but now they you know,

551
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: can tie in terms of the one seed. The Packers

552
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: are now tied with the Cardinals. Obviously they lose, they

553
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Speaker 1: have the tiebreakers, so they're they're even ahead of them.

554
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: They're like, these games do matter. It sounded like Kyler

555
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: Murray was close to plane, but between him and Nuke,

556
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they have been They are missing a lot

557
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: of guys in general. Chase Edmonds like they've survived, but

558
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: they need to get those guys back now. I'll tell

559
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: you what it's been. It's not easy, uh, suffering through

560
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: a loss like this. But I like what the Cardinals

561
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: are doing here because I think they saw what happened

562
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: last year when they try to rush back Tyler to

563
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: save the season, and it ended up kind of submarining

564
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Speaker 1: the season. Even if it's gonna cost you a game

565
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: or two and they're one and one now without these

566
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: two guys, it will help you in the long run.

567
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Hopefully those guys are back to be one and one.

568
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: It's not it's not. I bet they would have. They

569
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Speaker 1: would never admit to it, because you never admit all,

570
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: I'll lose. That's fine. They would sign up for one

571
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: and one without two games without Nuke and Kyler. All right,

572
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: let's h We're gonna get the pipe rattling around in here.

573
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Right after the break, Heineken steps up throws to the

574
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Speaker 1: corner of the adults, got Carter caught, touchdown, DeAndre Carter

575
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: touchdown parts from Taylor heide Key, Brad Weinstein with a

576
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: call for w T E. M. Tom Brady picked off

577
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: twice in this first six throws in the Bucks. We're

578
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: in trouble because Tyler Heineke was on target during a

579
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Speaker 1: clock sling nineteen play drive that's sealed a nineteen upset,

580
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: huge upset by Washington over the champs. Yes, I said

581
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: it before, shook the pipe piece here and chook. This

582
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: is how it goes in our league. If you don't

583
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: show up ready to play, you'll get embarrassed by anybody.

584
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: And we saw that today. Yeah, if you sleep walk

585
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: out of the pie week directly to the nation's capital,

586
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: you'll get caught. And the Buccaneers got caught extremely early.

587
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: Tom Brady being one of them, a guy who was

588
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: typically really good out of the bye week, was not

589
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: really good today and and helped the Buccaneers dig themselves

590
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: a thirteen point hole. Really before they knew what had happened.

591
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: It was really in the second quarter, they were down

592
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Speaker 1: thirteen nothing and had to fight their way back and

593
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: and for the first time probably this entire season, we

594
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Speaker 1: saw a little bit of the Washington defense we thought

595
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: we were going to see all season based on what

596
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: we saw last year, even after losing Chase Young to

597
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: an injury that sounds pretty serious. They were They were tough,

598
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: they were gritty, They forced turnovers um, They didn't get

599
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: beat on big plays for the majority of the game.

600
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: They did on pass to Mike Evans that made things

601
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: tight late. But then Heinekey responds and the offense response.

602
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin comes back from a collarbone injury that had

603
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: cost him a little bit of time earlier. They go

604
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: on this UH drive that lasts over ten minutes, and

605
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: then Riverboat Ron comes out, goes for it on fourth

606
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: and goal from the one, gives it to Antonio Gibson.

607
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Ball game UH and a stunning victory for a Washington

608
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: team that has been extremely well, more down than up,

609
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: but definitely up and down the season. That Riverboat had

610
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: been parked um on River's edge for a number of

611
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: years there, but glad to see it back out on

612
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: the waters and and that they're gonna need to keep

613
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: doing that because we learned this morning before the game

614
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick is not expected to return this season,

615
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Speaker 1: something that does not surprise Greg Normark. No, right, well,

616
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Greg and I were saying we

617
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: thought that he basically was soft selling this into an

618
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: early retall know you too, but also Dan, I mean

619
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: thought about Yeah, they were. They were saying his hip,

620
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Speaker 1: Like the report on it was funny that they did

621
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Speaker 1: a follow up m R I and none of it

622
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: was good. And he's back on crutchers. I mean, he's

623
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Speaker 1: an older guy coming off a hip injury, and I

624
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Speaker 1: don't even know if you would want to go back

625
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: to him right now. Not that Taylor Heineke has played well,

626
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: but this is just like the team you have and

627
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you just pulled off one of the drives of the

628
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Speaker 1: season to to get a ten minute drive against the

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Speaker 1: Bucks to win the game nineteen plays eighty yards to

630
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Speaker 1: seal it that it doesn't really get any better than that.

631
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: To do it against the Bucks run defense, uh, is amazing.

632
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: It's one of the most surprising results and the longest

633
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: drive of the campaign for an insult to injury for

634
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: the Bucks on the last play of that drive, Vita Vea,

635
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: who is so important to what they do in their

636
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: front for the nose tackle, got carded off, uh with injury.

637
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: And uh, that's a bad one to show, because we

638
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: we saw they lost them last year and they felt

639
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: his absence a year ago as well. Yeah, and we

640
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: saw how effectively was earlier in this season. There was

641
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: multiple games that they played earlier this year where Vita

642
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: was destroying any offensive lineman he was faced up against,

643
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: to the point where it was causing serious problems for

644
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: opposing passers every time they dropped back because they had

645
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: a man in their face on every snap. And so

646
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, this defense has not really played up to

647
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: par in the last few weeks to begin with, and

648
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: especially in this game today. Uh, and losing a guy

649
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: like that, that takes away a strengthen the interior. Not

650
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: that the that Washington ran the ball well today because

651
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: they didn't. But teams in the future are going to

652
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: be able to find more success up the middle, which

653
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: is going to put more Onnest in the rest of

654
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the defense to perform. And right now they're already not

655
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: performing at a level that you want them too, that

656
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: you expect of a defending Super Bowl champion that looked

657
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: really good about a month ago and lately not so much.

658
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they also are down four corners and they

659
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: lost two during this game. So I am struck by

660
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: the difference of how they came out of the bye

661
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: week last year, you know, they go undefeated after that

662
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: and win a Super Bowl, and how they come out

663
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: of the bye week this year an injury plague. Season

664
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: gets more, uh, injury plagued, and Brady after the game

665
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: is just he's dying, and I you know, everyone likes

666
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: going to kind of pile on that he's not a

667
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: good sport. And I just think of that Bill Parcels,

668
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, quote about how he says like, as you

669
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: get older, the losses are so much tougher than the

670
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: winds are good. And you could just tell he was

671
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: like his insides were like he was just trying to

672
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: end that and it's it's not a good look or whatever,

673
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: but you know what happened exactly. I mean, it was

674
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: like a four five second press conference that he's he

675
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: is answering very short, politely but short answers, tries to

676
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: walk off after forty five seconds. The guy from the

677
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: athletic Greg Allman, I believe, was like, can you stay

678
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: a little more? Tom, And they keep asking him questions

679
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: like how are you feeling round and he's like, I

680
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: don't like losing, and then he ends up walking off

681
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: like forty five seconds later after about a minute and

682
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: a half. You're not supposed to do that run on mine,

683
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: like you have an agreement to give the reporter sometimes

684
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: so it's now and he wasn't. It was more that

685
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: he just reminded me of Belichick and Brady after like

686
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl losses, how it just feels like everything like

687
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: if you base your whole life around this one thing,

688
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: when you lose to the Washington football team, it's like

689
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: you have nothing left in your being and and and

690
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: just to add on to that before it shook, throw

691
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: it back to you that you know this performance which

692
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and his press conference called embarrassing, and then

693
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: reporter asked if wide receiver issues injuries played a role

694
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: in the loss. Arian's pulled no punches him Sure, Is

695
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: it just me? Or is that like kind of a

696
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: good thing that Brady isn't playing for a coach that

697
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: treats him with kid gloves. I think that's actually another

698
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: sign of a good landing spot for Brady in general. Yeah, absolutely,

699
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: because at this point it would be super easy for

700
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: any coach to just be like, well, he's Tom, he's

701
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: the greatest ever. He can do what ever he wants.

702
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: But on a day were you throw two interceptions, you

703
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: need to be held accountable. And I know Tom would

704
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: be the first person to hold himself accountable. But as

705
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: a team and as a coach, you come off of

706
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: this loss, if you treat that guy as he's infallible

707
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: and we go into the next week and everything's fine

708
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: and he doesn't deserve any criticism, will you start to

709
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: get other guys looking at him and saying, well, hey,

710
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: we're on two different planes here. And I know he's

711
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: a great he's the greatest of all time, but we

712
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: need to win football games and he didn't play like

713
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: the goat that he is and we need him to

714
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: play better than that. So as a leader on your team,

715
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: he needs to be the first guy in the room

716
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: to stand up and say, look, guys, I didn't play

717
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: well enough for us to win, and that's on me.

718
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: And if a coach is gonna do that for him

719
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: as well, it keeps things even because you know, in

720
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: this season you deal with injuries, to deal with so

721
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: many different things to try to get to the end

722
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: of the year and get to the Super Bowl. You

723
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: gotta have everybody in the same page. So it's it's

724
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: good for them. But you know, you talk about Tom

725
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: being upset after the game, you can see it in

726
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: his face in the sideline as Washington slowly getting down

727
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: the field and the times ticking off the clock and

728
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Tom is chop topping the bit ready to get the

729
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: ball back and go lead another comeback win, and then

730
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: he never gets it with any time left and with

731
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: any real chance because they're down you know, multiple scores

732
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: at that point. Uh, I can totally understand why he

733
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: was so upset after the game. It was he had

734
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity taking out of his hands by a defense

735
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: that he's been able to count on in the past

736
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: and couldn't count on today. All Right, So frustrating game

737
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: for the goat and the defending chance. But as we

738
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: learned last year, should not count them out in November.

739
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: Let's see how they bounce back next week. But let's

740
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: now move on pipe to what happened across the sidewalk here.

741
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: That's so far stadium. I think they're gonna go for it.

742
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: Toss right to Delpin, turns it up, wait for the

743
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: first down. Ball came out, but the Viking's recovered it

744
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: at the twenty nine. He'll stay. Delphin is down at

745
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: the two frush four from the Minnesota Vikas, Paul Alan

746
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: kf a and with the call, don't try to figure

747
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: out the Vikings. Anytime you try to figure out the Vikings,

748
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: they'll make you look dumb. Kirk Cousins threw a pair

749
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: of touchdown passes, the Tyler conflint you heard me, Dalvin

750
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: Cook rush for ninety four yards touchdown and that game

751
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: ing first down and the Vikings bounce back after a

752
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: little bit of a slump here. They beat the Chargers

753
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: to shook. More of the same from Minnesota, right, You

754
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: just that there. They'll look bad one week, they look

755
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: great the next well, sounds like they look pretty good

756
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: great in this one. More of the same, but a

757
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: difference and a key difference that I think could help

758
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: them going forward if they can kind of stay consistent.

759
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: This is a game that the Vikings typically would lose

760
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: this year. They go into halftime with the lead, and

761
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: even on the broadcast they mentioned coming out of the break, well,

762
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: you gotta feel a little bit nervous if you're a

763
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: Vikings fan right now, because they've been here before and

764
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: they haven't followed through. And for a little bit there

765
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: after halftime, they were again trailing, and yet they responded.

766
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: And not only did they respond, but they responded with

767
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: emphasis too long touchdown drives. The second one was a

768
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: twelve play drive. Eight of those plays were running plays.

769
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: They capped it off by giving to Dalvin Cook slamming

770
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: over the goal line for a touchdown. It was emphatic.

771
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: It sent a message to the Chargers that hey, we're

772
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: gonna rely on our offense, we're gonna rely on our

773
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: ground game, and we're gonna run it down your throats

774
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: and we're gonna score, and it's gonna be on you.

775
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Just stop us. And ultimately the Chargers their last three

776
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: defensive possessions couldn't get a stop. Two touchdowns and then

777
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: the game ending drive with that fourth and one conversion,

778
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: and I felt as they tossed the ball to Dalvin

779
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Cookie gets around the edge and across the sticks for

780
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: a new a fresh set of four as they said

781
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: on the call, that's exactly how this game should have ended,

782
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: with the Vikings doing it on the ground, doing it

783
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: with emphasis, making a point that hey, you know what,

784
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: we've lost games like this in the past. We're not

785
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: losing this one today. I think another change for them

786
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: out coming off the last two weeks and there's been

787
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: a lot of heat on them where Justin Jefferson, your

788
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: best player, was targeted nine times over the last two weeks.

789
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: They got away from him last week when they you know,

790
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: they got up early, they built to fourteen nothing leads,

791
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: fourteen point leads over the Ravens and did not lean

792
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: on him eleven targets today a hundred and forty three

793
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: yards off nine catches, totally dominant, one of the better

794
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: catches you're gonna see all year, and one that helped

795
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: them ice that game and get them to the Dalvin

796
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: Cook fourth down Kerry. So that I think is something

797
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: if you're the Vikings, don't get away from that again

798
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: because the inconsistency sometimes like just keep doing what works please,

799
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: and their defense without Patrick Peterson, without Daniel Hunter, held

800
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert to his lowest yardage total all year and

801
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: stymied them down the stretch. I mean, I thought these

802
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: two teams feel like mirror teams to me in the

803
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: n f C and a f C where every game

804
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: comes down to the end, you don't know what's gonna happen,

805
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and the Vikings one of them had to close it out.

806
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: We'd be saying the same thing about the Charge and

807
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: it was reversed. But that's I like that point a lot.

808
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: But I also feel differently about these teams. I feel

809
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: like the Vikings are just like all over the map

810
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: where Star to worry, he shook. If I'm a Charges

811
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: fan that they might be pretenders. Do you do you

812
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: get the vibe that they're a team with major issues

813
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: or maybe fatal flaws here, Yeah, a little bit, especially

814
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: in the last month. Their offense has just not lived

815
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: up to what we thought it was earlier in the season,

816
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: and the defense, especially today, has not picked up its

817
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: end of the slack. And you know, you think Brandon

818
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Staley comes over after engineering that Rams defense that was

819
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: the best in the league last year, this this defense

820
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: just hasn't had the teeth that you expected to have,

821
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: and especially in key moments, this game being one of them,

822
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: and justin Herbert's going to have these games where he

823
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: throws an interception or he's not as sharp as you'd

824
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: like him to be, and he's been like that lately.

825
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: You need your defense to pick you up and they

826
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: just haven't played complimentary football in that regard. And that's

827
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: while still being largely healthy. On the offensive side of

828
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, they have Austin Neckler, They're able

829
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: to still move it. Sometimes they moved it in a

830
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: second half a little bit, but I mean there was

831
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: a telling moment for me late in this game in

832
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where they were, you know, within goldighost

833
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: situation and they get stopped and Brandon Stalely downtn takes

834
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: the three and and mathematically it makes sense. You know

835
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: your Downtown, you you take the three, you get a stop,

836
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: you try to score the game tying touchdown, potentially go

837
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: for two to win the game. Right, Well, the problem

838
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: is that defense couldn't get a stop. And this is

839
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: a guy who loves to go for it on fourth down.

840
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: It felt passive. It felt like you were playing kind

841
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: of not to lose, or at least you give yourself

842
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: a chance. The aggression in these Chargers has not shown

843
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: through in the last month, and I think that's a

844
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: big reason why they are where they are at five

845
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: and four. It was shocking. I mean the the there

846
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: In a way, these teams are mirror teams, but it

847
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: was the opposite of what you would expect the minute.

848
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: The Vikings were incredibly aggressive today in their play calling,

849
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: like as aggressive almost as any team I've seen in

850
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: a game ending situation all year. They it was first

851
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: in twenty five on that last drive, and they threw

852
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: it three straight times. That is exactly the spot where

853
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer this year has run it multiple times in

854
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: a row. They went forward on fourth down to drive

855
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: before that too. They they were backed up in terms

856
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: of penalty and when you would think they would prioritize

857
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: taking time off the clock. They threw it in situations

858
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: where even the even the most suggressive coaches often will

859
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: run it in that situation, whereas the Chargers didn't just

860
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: blink in that fourth down situation there, but also punted.

861
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: I think it was on the forty on the other side. Uh,

862
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: in the first half of the game. It's very surprising

863
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: to me to see that Staley did not have as

864
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: much confidence in his offense because I don't think it

865
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: was about him having confidence in getting stops defensively. He

866
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: just did not think his offense was playing well enough.

867
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it was right all right now, Shook, Um, I

868
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: know you watched the Browns professionally today. Are you prepared

869
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: to talk about them? Of course? Yeah, Hey man, I

870
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: separate the two very easily. Stiff upper lift hats, time

871
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: fires down her part and preach usophic stands between two defenders.

872
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Touchdown patriottes toolpig throws on his draw. Mac child your

873
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: quarterback to get him off the plateau? What does that

874
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: even mean? Bob Soy and Scott Ziliak with the call

875
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: for w buzy. Mac Jones threw three touchdown passes. Rookie

876
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson rush for a career a hundred yards. Two scores,

877
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots sticking to the Browns to seven blowout City Mark.

878
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: Heading into the weekend, we all kind of agreed that

879
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: this felt like a close, low scoring, maybe a field

880
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: goal difference type of game. How did we end up

881
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: in grizzly blowout territory? Well, I think the other thing

882
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: that we brought up this was on my mind. I

883
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: wonder if Shook agrees that the Browns needed a signature win.

884
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: You needed to go into New England and do something

885
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: that basically, had they won this game, they'd be in

886
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: the driver's seat of the division right now, they'd be

887
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: looking arrow up and we'd be saying we think differently

888
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: about them a week ago. Instead, we're right back in

889
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: the darkness. And this was the most discombobulated Brown's loss

890
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: of the I will say of the Kevin Stefanski era,

891
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: because I don't care about some of the blowouts last

892
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: year where they were figuring themselves out, they were out coached,

893
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: they were outplayed. You know, by halftime, it was utterly

894
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: clear that mac Jones was putting together a performance three

895
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: times that of Baker Mayfield, who I think had his

896
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: worst start in EON's. I mean, it was an absolute debacle.

897
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: New England's defense adjusted very early to what Cleveland did.

898
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: They had a nice opening touchdown drive and we've seen

899
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: this before and then nothing after it, and in reverse,

900
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: this is so Bill Belichick, it's so Josh McDaniels in

901
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: the in the play by play, guys were going nuts

902
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: over this early on, but they basically used the aggressiveness

903
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: of Myles Garrett and what Myles Garrett presented to dump

904
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: off screens where he would be where there was no

905
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: one to eat up big chunk yardage, to invite him

906
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: into the fold and run reverses where he would be.

907
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: I thought they did a great job with Cleveland's defense,

908
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: who came into the game tent and allowing points, and

909
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: we're out of this thing early on. I just it's

910
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland and New England both want to come in and

911
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: run the ball. I know, the Browns and not have

912
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. New England was missing people too, and their

913
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: players stepped up and they had a season high and

914
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: rushing yards and beat up a Brown's defense that look

915
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: totally asleep at the wheel. To me, this was a

916
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: case of a good opening game script, so good preparation

917
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: virtus versus good in game coaching, because Kevin Stefanski and

918
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: Joe Woods got completely out coached by Bill Belichick and

919
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. I mean to the point where by the

920
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: time you got to halftime, it was clear that the

921
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: Browns were gonna need a miracle to come back and

922
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: win this game. You had the great opening drive and

923
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: then Baker Mayfield throws an interception and they score quickly

924
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: and before you know it, it's seven and the Browns

925
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: have no hope left in them. Romandre Stevenson just bullying

926
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: his way through the Browns punchless defense. They couldn't make

927
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: tackles in the open field, they couldn't make tackles in traffic.

928
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: They had him on the one yard line and allow

929
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 1: him to somehow squeeze through for a game of six

930
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: and they end up going on a ninety nine yard

931
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: touchdown drive. Uh and and defense or offensively, every time

932
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: the Browns tried anything, the Patriots for right there with

933
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: an answer. I mean, it's like they knew what the

934
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: play call was, essentially, because defensively, the Browns do not adjust.

935
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: They haven't adjusted all year, and they didn't adjust. Miles

936
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: Geary and talked about it after the game. But offensively,

937
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: they also didn't adjust. And I know, you know, Baker

938
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Mayfield goes out with an injury, and you don't have

939
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: to make chubbs, you don't have to be able to

940
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: rely on the run. But this is one of the

941
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: weaknesses in Kevin Stefanski. Where he's good at game planning

942
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: and he's good in certain situations where he knows the

943
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: team's weaknesses, but when it comes to running into a

944
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: brick wall of a defense, he just kind of folds.

945
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been able to answer that with anything better.

946
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a lack of talent.

947
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: I think they have enough talent to make it work,

948
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: but it's clearly a lack of execution and ingenuity offensively.

949
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: And it contributed to this blowout where I mean you

950
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: had Mac Jones and the sideline cracking up with his

951
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: teammates and Brian Horyer are going three for three for

952
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: eighty five yards and Myers. Yeah, it was a dominant performance.

953
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: The Browns got completely last. Yeah, and that and that

954
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: is and Connor wrote a good piece today on SI

955
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: dot com, Connor Brown's fan himself, saying that you know,

956
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: the Browns are five and five, So it's like, you know,

957
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: four years ago it would have been a celebration to

958
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: be five and five in November, but I think the

959
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: way that the bar was raised this year especially, that's

960
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: why you hear so much frustration from Brown's friends about

961
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: how hot and cold they've been, and that's what they are.

962
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: At certain point, you gotta believe a team when it's

963
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: telling you they are what they are. We're an inconsistent

964
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: team that could be good one week, bad the next,

965
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: and you can't trust them. The Patriots, on the other hand, Greg,

966
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: they are not inconsistent. They've been consistently great now for

967
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: a month. And what we saw from their quarterback, the

968
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, was hey, f y, I if I level

969
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: if I level up in my game, we can really

970
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: make a run here, And he did it on Sunday.

971
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: His anticipation and just knowing what the defense is gonna

972
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: do and ball placement when it's on is is awesome.

973
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: But I think such a big part of it is

974
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: like he's got players making plays for him. And I

975
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: know they're not like the best skill position group in

976
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: the world, but that that throw to Kendrick Born that

977
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: everyone is going was going nuts on where he sticks

978
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: it between two defenderives like that was a great catch.

979
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: The Jacobean j Jacoby Myers made a couple of plays

980
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: for him. Their offensive line, it's not skill position players,

981
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: but they got Trent Brown back today for the first

982
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: time all year, and they've got a great looking offensive line,

983
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: the one that we talked about coming into the season.

984
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: It took a little while, but the last three or

985
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: four weeks, they're up there with one of the best

986
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: offensive lines in the week. So suddenly in the league, suddenly,

987
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: then you surround Mac Jones with that, and you surround

988
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: him with Josh McDaniels, who have always believe is a

989
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: is a great play caller and a great offensive coordinator,

990
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: and it's shown he can win with different quarterbacks. Belichick

991
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: gets credit for that, but like when they've won with

992
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: Jimmy g and Jacoby Brissette and Castle, and like Josh

993
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: McDaniels has been there for that. It's not just been

994
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And it's it's hard not to be very

995
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: high on this Patriots team right now, like they are

996
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: coming together. But I also think this was this was

997
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: a matchup thing. Like you, you're right shook. When it

998
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: was twenty one seven, it felt over. But that's because

999
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: of the Browns more than the Patriots to me, because

1000
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: they just don't don't feel like a team that can

1001
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: come from behind. They they feel like what people used

1002
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: to say about the Ravens, which I never totally bought into,

1003
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: which is that they are a bit of a front

1004
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: running team. If you get them a couple scores down,

1005
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: it's not happen. You can tell what's going to happen

1006
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: in a Browns game about ten minutes in. You can

1007
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: just it's the been the way it is this year.

1008
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: Joe Batonio called him a Jekland high team. The Patriots

1009
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: had three touchdown drives of ninety plus yards. They took

1010
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: a bomb inside their own house and blew up the ceiling.

1011
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: Stevenson's a beast too. You know. Damian Harris misses this

1012
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: game with a concussion, and it didn't matter because they've

1013
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: got a their running back room right now with Brandon

1014
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Bolden playing so well, it's pretty great with with Stevenson,

1015
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: Harris and Bolden. Look out for the Patriots, and the

1016
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: Browns have dropped four of six and have not won

1017
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: in New England since when their coach was Belichick. And

1018
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: the same year I was born, well, well you know

1019
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: I was in college, so that should tell you that

1020
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: seems unnecessary. All right, thank you, you've said it all,

1021
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: you do it all. You're the man the pipe. Follow

1022
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: him on Twitter, check out all this great stuff on

1023
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: NFL dot com, and we'll see you next week. Thanks

1024
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: for the plug. See you guys later. All right, we'll

1025
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll talk about the first tie

1026
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: of the season. Up next grows the out pattern to

1027
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: flyer moved, he loses the football spree on the ground.

1028
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: It is the Lions football. The Lions picked it up

1029
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: again the second course, bubbling over time and they come

1030
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: out of there with it. Unbelievable. There's the mistake you

1031
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: needed all. Are we gonna give the Lions the bongoes

1032
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: on a tie? You know what, Let's give it to

1033
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: Dan Miller, the voice of the Lions, who we hadn't

1034
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: heard this season until now. W x Y t the

1035
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: Steelers at position for a long field goal attempt. The

1036
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: lines stripped rookie tight end Pat Fryer move and fell

1037
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: on the ball with nine seconds to play. It was

1038
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: the turnover that clinched the sixteen sixteen tie. What do

1039
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: they say, it's like kissing your sister, which is always

1040
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: we don't need it. I don't have a have a sister,

1041
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: and I just don't like the visual and dreary Pittsburgh Mark.

1042
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: This is uh, you know, hideous four hour game. Just

1043
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: about Ben Roethlisberger went on the COVID list, did not play.

1044
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph was completely Mason Rudolph and ends with Detroit

1045
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: mercifully avoiding the lost column for the first time in

1046
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: almost a year totally unrewarding basket of treats. Did you

1047
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: not to interrupt, but you took this game as you

1048
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: often do in the draft process. You like to get

1049
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: a couple of blood best in there so you don't

1050
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. So how fitting on a

1051
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: day where the Browns crap their pants you get a

1052
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: four hour slog tie. Well, that's like little girls say

1053
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: on the the thing when it rains at pores, baby,

1054
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: and like, that's that's what happened today. The little girl

1055
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: says it on this thing. It's literally it's a slogan

1056
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: on the salt thing. It's some sort of salt. The

1057
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: people buy what is it? Oh, I know, a very

1058
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: blue salt. Yeah, I don't buy it, but it's a salt.

1059
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. But this this thing, by the way,

1060
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: they're like, it's not gonna be four quarters, it's gonna

1061
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: be a full five. Enjoy it. A total ill basket

1062
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: traits it is. It was a hot mess. I mean.

1063
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: The problem that was so frustrating was that both teams

1064
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: had chances to win this in overtime, if not before.

1065
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean the Steelers fumbled twice in overtime the Lions,

1066
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: uh Santos so their forty eight field goal kicked miss

1067
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: just a disaster for them. Uh it was. It just

1068
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: went on and on. It was. The game had sixteen

1069
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: punts Jared Goff average one point five air yards deep.

1070
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Into overtime, Golf was playing, and I know this was

1071
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: a people were wondering what was going on with Jared

1072
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Goff because you would never you won't see a team

1073
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: all year long play around their quarterback the way they

1074
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: did with Jared Goff. And it's partly just what's going

1075
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: on with Jared Goff. It was successful for Detroit. They

1076
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: ran for two hundred plus yards and barreled through Pittsburgh's

1077
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: defense and that kept him in this game. But when

1078
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Golf was on the sideline, they were wrapping his waist

1079
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: and back lower back with like this medical tape. You

1080
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: could tell he was in tough shape. He couldn't drowy

1081
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: for any athlete get the blow hard, but I mean,

1082
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: let's get him and blow how he wins the coin toss?

1083
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't get they were doing. They were at the

1084
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: point where it was third and five. It was sixteen sixteen.

1085
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: It was third and fifteen, and the Lions are tied

1086
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen, and they run the ball on third and fifteen.

1087
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: They were I think that you know in Pittsburgh still

1088
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: couldn't do enough with that. They couldn't do enough to

1089
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: stop the run in that situation. So it was a

1090
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: weird game in crappy weather that went on for about

1091
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: six and a half hours. Happy for the Lion seven tie.

1092
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't hate ties the same way that some people do.

1093
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: I hate how they mess They messed with the symmetry

1094
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the season, but the NFL already can create symmetry. I

1095
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: know it's annoying that we went out of our way

1096
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: to lose symmetry would be can I can of just say?

1097
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: And I don't want to pile on because I'm sure

1098
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, but I knew when Ryan Santoso

1099
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: is lining up for that forty eight yard kick in overtime,

1100
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: what's that old like um w w E song? No

1101
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: chance in hell. He had this look in his eyes

1102
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: like he did to be anywhere in the world at

1103
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: that moment, and he kicked the ball like he wanted

1104
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: to be anywhere else in the world at that moment,

1105
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: and that you know speaks to the lines. Do we

1106
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: have Campbell talking after the game because Campbell is like, yeah,

1107
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: he just wants a dub and he he'll take a tie,

1108
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure over an l But you know it's tough

1109
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: being the head coach of the lines. Yeah, honestly, I don't.

1110
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I said, I don't, I don't.

1111
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: It was twilight zone. I don't know what this is really. Um,

1112
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've been in a tie before as a player.

1113
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: For some reason, I can't remember that if it was, so,

1114
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gain well, you could. It's fine

1115
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: to cut them off there because he doesn't know what

1116
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: to say either. It's just been a tough season. Greg.

1117
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: What about the Steelers that it's a bad as bad,

1118
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: it's it's somehow worse than a loss. Okay, that's stupid.

1119
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: It's not worse than loss. But they tie, tying the

1120
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: Lions in this sort of game where you also lose

1121
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden uh and Kevin Dotson to injury, and Dotson

1122
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: was ruled out quickly and has been good for them

1123
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive line Like this, this was a very costly.

1124
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: I feel I do want to say on campbelled up,

1125
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: I feel like he's part of the issue here. It's

1126
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: like they want s bench Peyton manning for brock Osweiler,

1127
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Like put put blow in if Goff is out there

1128
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: and he can't move around, just at least for this one.

1129
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: It's not like a franchise legend that you're trying to

1130
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: be sensitive about. Go put blow in and when a

1131
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: ball is also you know, I'm not piling on I

1132
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: guess I could see the strategy because you know, want

1133
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: to tie the game. But he's called time outs for

1134
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers on the Steelers drive that almost ends with

1135
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal attempt to stop the clock,

1136
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: which is helping out Pittsburgh more than it has the

1137
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: possibility to help out Detroit. You know, not piling on

1138
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: the lines. But here's the thing I will pile on

1139
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph that he's not a good backup quarterback. He's

1140
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: not a good starting quarterback. He's not the future in Pittsburgh.

1141
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: I can't talk too much on this game because they

1142
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: only watched over time, but I read that he missed

1143
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: a ton of throws in this twenty and completions. He

1144
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: also just he's thrown to ghosts sometimes and you just

1145
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: can't try Chase Claypool being out jews out like this

1146
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: is a this is a banged up team too. It's

1147
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: a good news for the Browns though, because the Lions

1148
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: they get the moral victory and this thing, in this case,

1149
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: it was a moral tie every other week. Like this

1150
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: is where you and I just have this I just

1151
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: mean disconnected the Lions. I'm just saying the Lions have

1152
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: this thing where everyone's like, hey, they're well coached, they

1153
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: tried really hard, and then like everyone's kind of in

1154
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: on the lines a little bit going into the next game,

1155
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: and then they get their doors blown off. And so

1156
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: that's the Browns. That there is some actual good news

1157
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Also that this is a hideous week

1158
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: for the a f C North. The Ravens go down

1159
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: against the two and seven Dolphins, the Pittsburgh Steelers barely

1160
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: tie the O and eight Lions, and the Cincinnati Bengals

1161
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: are in flames on their bye week. So you actually

1162
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: don't lose any ground. Well, I guess you was half

1163
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: a game, But anyway, I would just say if you

1164
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: watch this from wire to wire. People aren't going to

1165
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: be running around like waving banners for the Detroit Lions

1166
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: like there were issues. All right, let's move. They learned

1167
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: by three sets. They throw it back to days of

1168
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: the left corner, and this time he holds out to

1169
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: it in the end zone for the touchdown. The Bills do,

1170
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: in fact take a sixteen to three. League should have

1171
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: seen Mark Stern nod of his head when I said,

1172
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: it's good to hear from doing Dan Miller. You have

1173
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: a good Stan Miller. I mean I'm not aware of Dan.

1174
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: He hasn't been on this very I was just acknowledging

1175
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: that I listened to what you said, and yes, I

1176
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: comprehended your statement. And can I also say that Dan

1177
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: Miller was a class act when I interviewed him for

1178
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: the Pain rankings where it all comes in, well, you

1179
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: have this j Miller. It's it's been on ice for

1180
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: about five years, but you never know when I could

1181
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: get picked up again. The Jets were just what the

1182
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: doctor ordered for the Bill's slumping offense. That was John

1183
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Murphy with the call for w g R. Josh Allen

1184
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: picked a part New York's week defense, throwing for three

1185
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: three yards and two scores win at the meadow ends.

1186
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Alan's offensive line gave him a ton of time to

1187
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: work from the pocket. He reestablished his connection with star

1188
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: receiver Stefon Diggs, who enjoyed a second one yard day

1189
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: of the season, had a touchdown. And um, I'll say

1190
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: this before we kind of get into the game more

1191
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: above the tree tops about the Bills. The Jets were

1192
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: a nice confidence booster, um, but we'll need to see

1193
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: more evidence before declaring that Brian Dable and company have

1194
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: successfully counteracted the game plans that have stifled the attack

1195
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: the season. But that said, good work took care of business.

1196
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: The Jets are a mess defensively right now. Mike White

1197
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: was a mess in this game four interceptions and that

1198
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: was a great storyline while it lasted. Uh, we will

1199
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: be seeing Zack Wilson sooner rather than later. But it

1200
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: was the defense of the Jets that let the Bills

1201
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: do anything they wanted. So we'll see what they look

1202
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: like against better competition Buffalo. But for one Sunday in

1203
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: northern New Jersey, they were back to their old way.

1204
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: And Kindlie, I don't I'm trying to remember if I've

1205
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: ever seen this and It's not to pile on the Jets,

1206
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: we get it. But last four games they have allowed

1207
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: point totals of fifty four, one, forty five, and forty five.

1208
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: This is like beating up on a lost friend on

1209
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Madden in someone who's never touched a console. The Bills

1210
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: became the fourth team in five weeks to roll up

1211
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: more than four hundred yards against New York. Some of

1212
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: these yardage holes could be hireder higher, but the blowouts

1213
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: are so grizzly that the teams are taking their foot

1214
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: off the pedal unless you're the Patriots and you have

1215
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: no class um. But you know Jim Joe Douglas has

1216
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: so much work to so much work to do to

1217
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: return the Jet's respectability. But they have to dedicate serious

1218
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: resources in the off season to this defense completely overmatch

1219
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: and and injured. They were over match coming into the

1220
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: season for the most part on paper and bank. Even

1221
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: if you have Karl Lawson and Marcus May, you still

1222
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: got to add more talent to this. Absolutely, you would

1223
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: expect more out of a defensive coach. I think that's

1224
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: the risk of a defensive coach, but I liked his

1225
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: coordinator higher. On offense, they have allowed more points um

1226
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: in the last four games to your point mark, uh

1227
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: than any team since the merger except for the two

1228
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: thousand four Titans had a head of four games stretch.

1229
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: Uh just a little bit worse, but that's it. So

1230
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: they are they are historically bad in terms of the month.

1231
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: And I know we're saying like, Okay, you want to

1232
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: see the Bills offense against a better team and all, um,

1233
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: But we were coming into this thinking, I don't know,

1234
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: Mike White might keep this close. And the Bills, if

1235
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: if nothing else, have been the most consistent defense in

1236
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. So I'm gonna give them some credit for stifling,

1237
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, picking off Mike White four times and just

1238
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, getting a blowout. The Bill's defense has been

1239
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: really good this season, even while the offense hasn't been.

1240
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: And uh, Mike White was by halfway through this game,

1241
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: he was the one seeing ghost. He was just kind

1242
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: of throwing the ball up for grabs. Wasn't even kind

1243
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: of looking uh downfield like he was a guy when

1244
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: he had that big game against Cincinnati. A lot of

1245
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: it was underneath and he was just doing a good

1246
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: job going through his progressions and taking with the defense

1247
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: gave him once he got on tilt a little bit

1248
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: in this game and he had to push the ball

1249
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: downfield or fell that he had to. It was a disaster,

1250
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: so bad stuff. Joe Flacco showed up in this game,

1251
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: so nice. Moved by the Jets trading three. Uh, he

1252
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: he might start next week. I wouldn't be now, that

1253
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't make any sense. That would be crazy. And it's

1254
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: back to it doesn't matter, um really whether it's White

1255
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: or Flacco. Neither of those guys are an answer. You

1256
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: need to have the boy back in and we'll see

1257
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: if he is back and the next time they play.

1258
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: But goodwin for the Bills. They got out of there,

1259
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: I believe, pretty healthy and they move onward and upward.

1260
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Jets stink and they get to fill

1261
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: the Bills face may have lost the ball, so she

1262
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: puts bad product in the field. Years no signal yet

1263
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: the Colts think they have a takeaway in a formal

1264
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: recovery take away. They definitely alright, Matt Taylor. I mean,

1265
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: I feel like when you have to scream about a

1266
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: desperate takeaway needed against the Jaguars, it's not a great look.

1267
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day. You know, all

1268
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: the guys in Jacksonville drive Cadillacs. Two right, our Cadillacs

1269
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: like the highest form. Well, Earl, we were the Hall

1270
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: of Fame manager of the Orioles. He coined it and

1271
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: that was probably in the eighties when the Catolic. Now

1272
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: they all drive phantoms. Yeah, phantoms? Is that? Is that

1273
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: a Bentley? I don't even know park those cars. That's

1274
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: why I would not extremely parallel parking of phantom. I

1275
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: would not recommend. Jonathan Taylor ran for buck sixteen and

1276
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: the touch of the Colts added another score on a

1277
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: blocked punt and they held on for win over the Jaguars.

1278
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: It is a Rose Royce, by the way, And you know,

1279
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: like before you come into my mentions and you know,

1280
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, these are three white guys. Don't know

1281
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: phantoms are Rolls Royce. It's like I paid off that

1282
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: mos the s X five three years ago. I'm riding

1283
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: that thing until the wheels come off. Ten years from now,

1284
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: I might be riding that thing. You're one of those

1285
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're Larry David all the way. I

1286
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: don't I don't care about David. Where are you going

1287
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: right now? Greg is up out of his series. You

1288
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: don't have to call that on curb your enthusiasm. In

1289
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: later seasons now he has like a luxury um. You know,

1290
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: it's a electric car, I believe, but he drove that

1291
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: Prius for the first ten years of the show. He evolved. Greg,

1292
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: maybe you can as well. You're yeah, David's money and

1293
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: by fifties or sixties or whatever. I'm just saying, you

1294
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: can spend that money elsewhere according to that money Smith,

1295
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: So you know you got to pinch those pennies anyway. Uh. Jaguars, Uh,

1296
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: they got a couple of wins this year, and they

1297
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: hung tough in this game. So they're playing hard for

1298
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: urban Meyer, but the Colts get it done. I feel

1299
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: bad for Trevor Lawrence. So many drops in this game.

1300
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: I know Jamal Agnew like makes a big play as

1301
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: a as a runner long touchdown, but there were multiple

1302
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: drives that I saw killed by Agnew. Drops where you

1303
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: know you're throwing slants to like a return guy who

1304
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: couldn't make other teams and he's like your ex receiver.

1305
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: It's like you're the only deep game is just kind

1306
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: of like throwing it up a back shoulder to Marvin Jones.

1307
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Trevor Lawrence has been incredible, but

1308
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: I think the team letting him down has increased as

1309
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: the season has has warned, Well, they're gonna, you know,

1310
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: they'll make a couple of big free agent signings in

1311
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: the off season, and one of these huge narratives will

1312
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: be like Trevor Lawrence is about to show us who

1313
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: he really is. And I don't doubt that that's true.

1314
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: It's just that I can already feel that being it's happening.

1315
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: And just like I just talked about another bad team,

1316
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna you could like look into the

1317
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: crystal ball and you'll see that Joe Douglas is like,

1318
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: we have a great defensive coach. Now I'll start to

1319
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: give him more pieces and they'll spend money in draft

1320
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: defensive players. That's what you're gonna see from the Jaguars

1321
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: in the subcoming off season. This is what you want

1322
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: to see. Though they outgained the Cults, the defensive improvement

1323
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: seems like it's there. It's a little shocking that the

1324
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: Cults offense at one point, I think had not eight

1325
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: punts in nine drives, including five three and ounce against

1326
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: Jack and j d at over eleven yards like that.

1327
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: This Jacksonville defense showed up last week and I, you know,

1328
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: it was just like, well that doesn't count. Well, it's like, actually,

1329
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: maybe they are becoming a little bit better. And they

1330
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: gave them a test today. And I checked in late

1331
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: to this because I called the Jaguars a berserker team

1332
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: that can maybe cause a little bit of havoc down

1333
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: the stretch. And at least they didn't totally get wiped today.

1334
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: Cults are in this race though. Moral victory for you. Yes,

1335
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: I chalked that up. It's the best thing that happened

1336
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: to me. I was trying to that. I was like,

1337
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: where's the analysis here? There? There there, Oh it's about

1338
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: I said, not out of nine drives, they had one

1339
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: that went over eleven yards. That's good on defense in

1340
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. By the way, they were one in four,

1341
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: so I know this game, this game is ugly. Just

1342
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: moved past it. You got your win. They were one

1343
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: in four and you get to five and five. That's

1344
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: a that's a pretty nice accomplishment to be right in there.

1345
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: And we don't have to tell cults fans don't trust

1346
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz they oh when they go hot and called

1347
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: on offense, and again I need to get eyes in

1348
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: this game. But the quarterback is he's gonna play the snap.

1349
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: So people in Philadelphia are loving the wins experience right now.

1350
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and then we'll hit

1351
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the games. They blitz in me frozen

1352
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: left lamps in the corner of the ends all and

1353
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: he walks under the ball, touch foul. The ceedee lamb

1354
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: hit a second and he comes up and grinning at

1355
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and shrugging his shoulders, saying that was too easy.

1356
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: It was too easy for the Cowboys. On Sunday, Brad

1357
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: Sham the sham God for k r l D Dak

1358
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: Prescott through a couple of touchdowns, Zeke scored a couple

1359
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: of times, the Shawn Wright recovered a block pen putting

1360
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: the end zone. Cowboys roll to three over and overwhelmed

1361
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: and seemingly unprepared Falcon's team. How out of control was

1362
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: this blowout? Dallas's halftime lead was thirty six to three

1363
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: halftime Greggy, that's a dan Quinn revenge game, baby, That

1364
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: is uh? I mean, we got how out of control

1365
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: is it? We had an entire quarter of Josh Rosen

1366
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: versus Cooper rush to get both teams just called off

1367
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: the dogs. If you look at the box score and

1368
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: his forty three like this game play, it was exactly

1369
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: what you thought it was like if if you don't

1370
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: want to watch it on game pass, you can pretty

1371
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: much guess what happened. Doc Prescott last week was definitely misfiring,

1372
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: didn't seem right. He looked like the dock from the

1373
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: first eight or nine weeks here. One thing that struck

1374
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: me though in this game was the fourth downs, two

1375
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: big ones by the Cowboys, which one was a touchdown

1376
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: and one led to a touchdown, And it got me

1377
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: thinking about Mike McCarthy and the aggressiveness that he's had

1378
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: this year, and I started thinking, like, we gotta get

1379
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: him Mike McCarthy versus Aaron Rodgers with like Mike McCarthy

1380
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: colin for four downs and somehow that he gets back

1381
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: at Aaron Rodgers, Like this is what I want in

1382
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs, And these are the two teams that

1383
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: I feel I trust the most in terms of will

1384
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: be there in the divisional round, if only because I

1385
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: know they're gonna win their divisions, and I know they're

1386
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: both really good. That is a luscious idea. I'm totally

1387
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: on board with that, and I mean you can look

1388
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: at the point total. Obviously their offense is high powered.

1389
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: But I like this Falcons offense, especially over the last

1390
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: three or four weeks. The Cowboys did not have DeMarcus Lawrence,

1391
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: they did not have Randy Gregory, Matt Ryan and his

1392
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: lowest passer rating. The pregame shows were all about Matt

1393
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: Ryan knows dan Quinn's defense. By the way, dan Quinn

1394
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: knows Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan and none of that stuff matters.

1395
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: But it's like the the the Falcons experience has been

1396
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: up and down because they have been really enjoyable to watch.

1397
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: You can kind of see it coming together on offense,

1398
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: and then they completely got manhandled the court of Cordel.

1399
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: Patterson suffered an ankle injury early. I had to play

1400
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: through it couldn't kind of look like a high ankle sprain.

1401
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 1: They're playing on Thursday night, By the way, against the

1402
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: Once Patterson has gone, this team is no longer fun.

1403
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: You got Wayne Gallman for fifteen carries. That tells you

1404
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a bit of you know, house built

1405
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: of sticks, and they're not. It's not like they're winning

1406
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: this game or it's a house of cards. They're not

1407
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: winning this game or being competitive with Patterson. But they

1408
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: didn't have anything. Dorrin's Armstrong had an incredible game. Sticks

1409
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: and stones actually might be but it's the house of cards,

1410
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: I know. But we're talking about things that men of

1411
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: the past did. We've never done any of these things

1412
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: that they do create like cliches. What do you mean

1413
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it was a real tough day down

1414
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: at the mill. It's like none of us have ever

1415
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: been to a mill. I mean, just we don't. We're

1416
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: talking about men. Listen, I'm a homeowner. I do a

1417
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: lot of work outside. Now, well that I exclude you,

1418
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: include you from the would commentary on modern man. You

1419
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: alone are doing the work that men used to work.

1420
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: Farm I worked at two years ago for like four

1421
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: teens an please, I mean I was driving yet to

1422
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: get there. Lost, they're lost. I'm picturing just like flashbacks

1423
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: where it's like the gauzy look to the camera and

1424
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: it's market camp, happiness at the lake with his his

1425
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: girlfriend and all his buddies, listening to Collective Soul, and

1426
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: just Greg just like driving to nowhere and that's straw,

1427
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: very drunk, no idea where the is going, no map quest,

1428
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: no no cell phone, dishwashing that's like going to the mill.

1429
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: Did a lot of dishwashings? Where were we? Oh? I

1430
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: just want to say this, the Falcons and on top

1431
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: of like a really ugly game, it just stinks that

1432
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: this is just where things are. But everyone destroying the

1433
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: Falcons on Twitter when it was three to the point

1434
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: where the Falcons Twitter uh says yeah, yeah, we know,

1435
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: very ponderous and then you know, to get off. It

1436
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: didn't last for long because thirty seconds after it went

1437
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: to twenty three they had a punt block to make

1438
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: it thirty six by the Falcons. I think we should

1439
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: just stop with three. It's been long enough. It really

1440
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: truly is the most painful loss I can think of

1441
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: in the history of sports, because because every time there's

1442
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: any twenty eight to three, it gets brought up. Yeah,

1443
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: but you like, you love your Saints and you know

1444
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: they're your pet team and everything, like they're the one

1445
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: into it more than anyone else. You should you should

1446
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: go on the Saints podcast with those dudes um and

1447
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: say Adam and Ryan, you say, hey, guys, next time

1448
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: you're on the Saints Switter podcast, you say, announcement before

1449
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: we get into this, I got a monologue hit the

1450
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: miss of music and then just be like no more

1451
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: three and then give like a detailed reasoning. You don't

1452
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: condone it. Basically, you stand. I just think it's been enough.

1453
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 1: It's been enough. We not just I don't don't I

1454
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: command you to stand down, Saints Nation. I'm not gonna

1455
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: do that. By the way, Like, why why is Dak

1456
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: Prescott running over a linebacker when it's thirty six to three? Uh,

1457
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,919
Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. I I'm all about everyone's

1458
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: always about like protecting your players, and yet they leave

1459
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: in their players in these nameless situations even late in

1460
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: the third quarter. You could you can take them out.

1461
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: It's very strange because they're so concerned in the preseason

1462
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: and then when in the regular season and thinks you

1463
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: don't condone that either. You know, it's a great way

1464
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: to avoid people taunting you forever. Same thing like I've

1465
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: gotten like the butt fumble gifts sent to me for

1466
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: ten straight years. Don't get the butt fumble done to you.

1467
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: Don't blow lead in the Super Bowl. This is sports,

1468
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just cruel. All right, let's move and

1469
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: Gordon has knocked down. Football comes loose. Eagles come up

1470
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: with the Slow, picks it up slightly, running with the ball,

1471
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: and Slow takes off to the forth side of the

1472
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: field to the thirty to the forty slight running away

1473
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: from people. Slow at the forty thirty ten five touchdown.

1474
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: I think you could tell Meryl Reese in his voice

1475
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: wasn't sure whether he was calling a game changing touchdown

1476
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: for w I P, but he was. Cornerback Darius Slay

1477
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: returned to fumble eighty two yards for a score that

1478
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: held up upon review. Was a good call, and rookie

1479
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: Davanta Smith continued his surge. He had two touchdown catches

1480
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: from Jalen Hurts in the first half. The Eagles roll

1481
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: over the Broncos thirteen. Um. You know, last week the

1482
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: Broncos go to Dallas and embarrassed the Cowboys, and then

1483
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: seven days later, the Cowboys make the Falcons look like

1484
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: a little league team, a Pop Warner team, and the

1485
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: Broncos go right back to looking like also Rents, mediocre

1486
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: Hammond Eggers. And that's and that was kind of my

1487
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: takeaway from this game. UH, My other big takeaway other

1488
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: than the Broncos or mediocre and um and they were

1489
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: a tease last week, is that Jalen hurts Um was

1490
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: so good in the first half of this game. He

1491
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: only threw three passes in the second half, so I

1492
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: can't and he threw an interception in the second half.

1493
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: But in the first half, with what he was able

1494
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: to do with his arm and with his legs again,

1495
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 1: he he is showing signs that this is a guy

1496
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: that you should give serious thought to continuing to develop

1497
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: and stay the course with Jalen hurts I really liked

1498
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: what I saw in this game. The Eagles are four

1499
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: and six. All four of their wins have come on

1500
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: the road, so it's an interesting, uh season they're having.

1501
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: And I thought, um one more note on the Broncos

1502
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: and this and bad day for teddy Bridge Bridgewater all

1503
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: the all around. Greg, You're gonna really struggle with this

1504
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: game tape because in addition to the phantom tackle attempt,

1505
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: Um on the uh Darius Slay touchdown, which was not

1506
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: a great look. He said he was trying to force

1507
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: the action the other direction, but it looked like he

1508
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: was trying to may a business decision there. He just

1509
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: missed a lot of plays in this game. He struggled

1510
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,480
Speaker 1: and they and they stalled out in the red zone repeatedly.

1511
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 1: They stalled at the three, the ten, and the eleven.

1512
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: That was the difference in this game, right, They were

1513
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: living in the red zone in the second half of

1514
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:17,520
Speaker 1: the game, trying to make a comeback. I am impressed

1515
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 1: and surprised about how quickly the Eagles have flipped this offense.

1516
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: Like everyone was begging them to just run the ball

1517
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: more for the first six weeks, and then they started

1518
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: to and they're the best running team in the league.

1519
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: The last three weeks. They are the number one offense

1520
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: according to expected points a lot. Now you gotta look

1521
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: at the you know, the opponents, but they've been wildly

1522
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: efficient for three straight weeks, you know, with this very

1523
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: run heavy approach. Yeah, I mean that is there is

1524
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: when they can run the ball and then he and

1525
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: Hurts can make plays with his legs and this devouta

1526
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: Smith connection, which has really come on the last two weeks.

1527
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: They his catch, he had an incredible it was a

1528
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: great stat his touchdown catch. The first one was over

1529
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: past tricks, certain the second or is it the third?

1530
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: So the second or third, I mean the second to

1531
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: play in the NFL um and I think he had

1532
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: less than like a half yard of separation. Was the

1533
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: smallest window for any touchdown reception this season. That's the

1534
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: type of play as star receiver makes, and he made

1535
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: one there. So the Eagles are a team to kind

1536
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: of keep an eye on here, and they're only one

1537
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: game back in the NFC. I have a crazy stat

1538
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: for you right now, are you ready for you? All? Right?

1539
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 1: Out of the thirty two teams in the NFL, only

1540
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: five are more than one loss out of the playoffs five.

1541
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: I believe that there's twelve in the a f C

1542
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: that are in that mix and fifteen in the NFC.

1543
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: The Lions are the only team that's not within one

1544
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: loss in the You know, if you really want to

1545
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: stretch it and and say, the Giants in Washington are

1546
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: only one loss behind George Bush one mission accomplished the

1547
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: league on it, and they they are here. And if

1548
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: you have told me, if you like traveled from the

1549
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: future back to August and gave me that stat, I'd

1550
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: like cross my finger and be like, come on, you

1551
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: gotta be in the mix. He gotta be one of

1552
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: the teams, but they are not. Now, before we move on, Greg,

1553
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: i'd like you to uh speak on the Teddy play.

1554
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: He's catching a ton of heat for it. Business decision

1555
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: and a big spot a lot. I mentioned it on

1556
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: Twitter and all the Broncos fans got angry. He's got

1557
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: two bad knees or his knee was shredders. Like, I

1558
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: get all that right. People kill quarterbacks sometimes for like

1559
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: throwing their body at offensive players when fumbled or defensive

1560
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: players when fumbles are being returned and getting hurt. It's like,

1561
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: was he really going to tackle tackle him there? I

1562
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: could have slowed him down, led to could have made it.

1563
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's a football player. What I

1564
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: do love is he like he did a very demonstrative

1565
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: lowering of his head, just like lowered his head like

1566
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: eight feet away from the player, Like that meant anything

1567
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:55,480
Speaker 1: like a step back three. I want Teddy's career to continue.

1568
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: That that play did not decide the game. I'm happy

1569
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: room going forward, but you know, I hope not. His

1570
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: His approval rating in general with Broncos fans went from

1571
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: like it felt like it was pretty high and now

1572
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: it's just out the window. One play. I put it

1573
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: this way, Greg, if you would, Hey, how about don't

1574
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 1: fumble the ball in a big spot in Melvin Gordon?

1575
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Melvin Gordon fumble the ball in

1576
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: a big spot. I'm just saying between Broncos fans and

1577
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: Chargers fans, they know what I'm talking about. A fourth

1578
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: and one play, he gets the two yards and fumbles.

1579
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: How about a little attention on that happened what happened

1580
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago. That's that's what you learned. That was

1581
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: a debate club, not to it was the bottle Congress.

1582
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: There are no lessons in model Congress. No one ever

1583
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: gave us tips. Everyone got to be president once you

1584
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: were senior, because like there's only seven you. Let me

1585
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: just say that the only person. We won't dwell on it. Um.

1586
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: But you see what Bruce arians did with Tom Brady today.

1587
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: He didn't let him off the hook. He held him

1588
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: accountable because ultimately that's what's best for Tom Brady and

1589
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: his team. That's how I think you should be with

1590
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: Teddy right now. Don't let him off the hook. Let

1591
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: him know what he did was not acceptable. And we

1592
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen again, because we know you're

1593
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: a man of high integrity and character, but we were

1594
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: disappointed today. What I'm not going to be as a

1595
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Twitter scout. I need to know more about what happened

1596
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: on that play. I need to see different angles before

1597
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: I just start flaming people. You're not gonna like all

1598
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: the angles because I've seen him all right. Which takes

1599
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: us to Sunday Night Football, Sunday Night, ton of time

1600
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: going to the in zone. It's Williams there and he

1601
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: makes the grid case Carol Williams, So of course you're

1602
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna take a running back and just throw off a

1603
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: prayer and expect him to make a play like that?

1604
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Al Michael's and Chris Collins with

1605
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: the call and some of the descriptor words there are

1606
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: by Colinsworth incredible. Are you kidding me? We haven't heard

1607
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: those when describing the Chiefs attack in a while. But

1608
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: it was back on Sunday Night Football from Vegas, a

1609
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: forty one fourteen win for the Chiefs, who outscore their

1610
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: division rival seven in the second half, fourteen zilch in

1611
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and Patrick Mahomes through it fifty times,

1612
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: and he translated those fifty throws into four hundred and

1613
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: six yards, five touchdowns, zero picks. Mark, this is the

1614
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense that everyone was waiting for. It has returned,

1615
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: and at the expense of a Raiders team that is

1616
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: now reeling. I think we'll find out if it's fully returned.

1617
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: But I saw a Raiders defense tonight that could not

1618
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: take advantage of a number of rather reckless throws from

1619
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes downfield as well, and the Raiders simply no

1620
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: showed in the first half. And I do trust that

1621
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes, this is what this is who he

1622
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: is like the whole Like he's in the slump, He's

1623
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: not the same person. Should you be taking chances like this?

1624
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: That always felt a little bizarre to me. But do

1625
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: you trust Greg that this offense is fixed based off

1626
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 1: of this game? I just think the Raiders are missing

1627
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: pieces and parts. I mean, you don't throw away the

1628
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: whole rest of the season. Just as annoying as people

1629
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, the Chiefs aren't coming back from this

1630
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: is the people that are pointing to one game and

1631
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: say like they're back. How many times do we need

1632
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: to watch an NFL season to learn, there's gonna be

1633
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: like ebbs and flows and all that. But I never

1634
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: got the idea that changing who Patrick Mahomes was as

1635
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: a player is some sort of solution. And yeah, like

1636
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: the turnover, luck turns his way tonight. But this was

1637
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 1: like an amazing performance by them too. Kelsey was feeling

1638
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: himself early. Uh, them throwing short to Tyreek Hill was

1639
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: working great, The play calls were great. You know, Damian

1640
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Williams has a game like for him to remember. And

1641
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: I think more importantly than all this is that she

1642
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: defensive resurgent over the last month seems pretty real, Like

1643
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: Chris Jones was living out there. Tonight, Tyrone Matthew shuts

1644
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: down Darren Waller. And that's a solid month now of

1645
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense being good, good enough. Yeah, look out,

1646
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: that's what I'll say. I'm buying in. And I know

1647
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: they've had even this season, they've had big weeks and

1648
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: then you think they're out of it and then they

1649
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: go back and do a funk. All right, could happen again.

1650
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: But I think about tonight in the immediate moments after

1651
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: it's over, and I'm I'm saying to myself, Okay, they're

1652
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: gonna run away with this division. Now they are atop

1653
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: the A f C West and you look at the

1654
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: rest of the division. The Raiders look a hell of

1655
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: a lot like the Raiders of the last couple of

1656
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: years under John Gruden. Now where that you know they

1657
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: get you kind of sucked in myself included, and they

1658
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: start to fade. And there's some different factors clouding their

1659
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: situation this year, but it's more of the same. They're

1660
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: now five and four team the Chargers. The Chargers look

1661
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: like to me a potential pretender. They're five and four

1662
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos. They they showed who they were uh today

1663
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: even after that great win a Dallas. So that division

1664
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: is there for the taking and the Chiefs there is

1665
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: a very real chance that they've gone through their their

1666
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 1: ugly period and they're about to start rollings. And if

1667
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: you can now combine greg this offense out of a

1668
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: slump and performing again at an elite level with the

1669
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: defense that that's improving, that's one super Bowls for them.

1670
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: In the past. They picked the right year to go

1671
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: through a prolonged slump, I mean, because they've come out

1672
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: of this to your point in amazing shape, like Okay,

1673
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: Tennessee is a couple of games up in the lost column.

1674
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to get the one seat. Other

1675
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: than that, it's all right there in front of them,

1676
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: and you look at their opponents and you look at

1677
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the division. Nothing seems unbeat I do

1678
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,480
Speaker 1: think this night was different, though, Mark not just like that. Okay,

1679
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: Damian Williams out out guns Abram for that touchdown, and

1680
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, they make a couple of big plays, but

1681
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: like the ball was coming out on time. Mahomes was

1682
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: pretty decisive in what he was doing. It didn't feel flukey.

1683
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: They had a good game plan for an opponent that

1684
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 1: they know well, and they destroyed him on both sides.

1685
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: It was but you know, it was pretty complete to

1686
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: have that kind of night. And I think the Raiders,

1687
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to climb back into the game.

1688
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: They came out with a really nice opening drive to

1689
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: the second half. But then you get into the scenario

1690
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: where Deshan Jackson makes his first catch as a Raider.

1691
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: It's a forty yard of the Kansas City seventeen. He

1692
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 1: then fumbles it in a very strange sort of loop

1693
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: de loop move where the changed in on the next

1694
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: possession car through a prayer down field and it's picked

1695
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: off by Daniel Swortzon, who has been a you know,

1696
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: victimized for a month straight here. So I think like

1697
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: they had a chance to climb back in the They

1698
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: are missing pieces on offense and they're not the equal

1699
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs tonight and the Chiefs I thought, I

1700
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: was saying, you know, on Friday, like will they come

1701
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: out looking a little bit different? And they did early

1702
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: on the way they moved the ball passes behind the

1703
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage tonight. That the Raiders to do, I

1704
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 1: think to deactivate some of like the Las Vegas pass rush.

1705
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: And then they got they start throwing it deep. So

1706
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: it's the the antidote arrived. Wish people could have heard

1707
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Dan though in the film room on that touchdown throw

1708
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: that we just heard and Williams yea to start this

1709
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: broadcast and it's fourth down. They had just gotten the

1710
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: fake punt. Nice job there by Townsend. Nice job by

1711
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Dave Taub. Legendary UH Special Teams sixteen years. In the

1712
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: last sixteen years, Dan, he's had a Top five Special

1713
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: Teams d v O A thirteen, not a fifteen sixteen times.

1714
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: Number one, they need to study up on my tip.

1715
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: You're talking top. Sorry, I got distracted. And Dan, when

1716
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: it's fourth down in the place, it's like, we need

1717
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: a highlight, need a highlight, need a highlight on this place,

1718
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: need a highlight, need a highlight. And then there it's

1719
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: up in the air and he gets it and he

1720
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 1: gets a touch down in the place, there's the highlight

1721
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: and we got it, and uh yeah, a little peak

1722
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: behind the curtain. Should also know that. A few minutes

1723
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: after that, Chris Rose rolled up to the back row

1724
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: of the theater and had a really nice conversation with

1725
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: Mark about the Browns. Mark was fully engaged, I thought,

1726
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: Greg and that you know, it did make me think,

1727
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: Um I did. Actually I pondered it because um, coming

1728
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,879
Speaker 1: off a wind, Mark sometimes likes to depress his feelings,

1729
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: keep him inside. But a loss, he's more open. So

1730
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: it's almost like with Cleveland fans, it is the losing

1731
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: ultimately that brings you together. Yeah, I mean, just you know,

1732
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: to be real, we that's the second great conversation that

1733
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: we had. I would say death con but because earlier

1734
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: in the day you stopped by our cubes before you

1735
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: were there Dan and uh, I thought I couldn't have

1736
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: been more you know, welcome and open arm to um

1737
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: discussing the day's events with it was good to see

1738
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: you guys get back together. I was wondering watching that interaction.

1739
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Have you taken mark like lessons um from Derek Carr,

1740
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: because you know, he's talked a lot about forgiveness and

1741
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: being there for people, and it seems like maybe or

1742
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 1: maybe it was Chris Rose that was doing the forgiving.

1743
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you seem to open your heart

1744
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: and I mean, I think even on last Tuesday's show

1745
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: with his voicemail, I could have found a couple of

1746
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: things if I wanted to to be annoyed with. And

1747
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, another mustache reference. Yeah, And it's like, you know,

1748
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not claiming that I like have some sort of

1749
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds facial hair scenara going on. It's the opposite

1750
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: of that. I understand that. But he's pointed it out

1751
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: multiple times and that's fun when it happens again. Yeah,

1752
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: it seems like that that's an issue. Might have directify

1753
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: with him privately. So we're not out of the woods yet.

1754
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: But back to the Raiders, I'd be very, very nervous. Uh,

1755
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: if I'm a Raiders fan, it's just it does feel

1756
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: like it's trending downward. And Derek Carr, Greg, I know

1757
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,480
Speaker 1: you've been out front on the Derek Carr resurgence bandwagon.

1758
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 1: You've had him high up in your QB index all year.

1759
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: But he made some throws in this game. Arm punts. Uh,

1760
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: he got away with one, he got picked off on another.

1761
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: It just looked like a quarterback trying to do too

1762
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: much as a season starts to crumble. And that's very

1763
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: familiar if you've been following this team the last few years,

1764
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: and familiar if you watched them last week too, So

1765
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: that that part concerns me. Coming out of the bye,

1766
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: that second half against the Giants was similar to the

1767
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: second half of this game where he just started going

1768
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: for that said, It's like he goes thirty to sixty

1769
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: one two and like it didn't feel like it was

1770
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: on Derek Carr. Everyone wasn't on him, but it once

1771
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: once it started going bad, he got very desperate. But

1772
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: the good things that the Raiders had been doing all

1773
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: seemed to go away. Their pass us to the run game,

1774
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 1: all of that. I do want to see this Kansas

1775
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: City versus Dallas next week before I know what's gonna happen.

1776
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: This week, we're already there and I'm just gonna roll,

1777
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: just cling onto the train and run behind it. But

1778
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, the Chiefs are back, everything's back to normal,

1779
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: Like let's just see. Why do things upset you so much? No,

1780
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: because it's like, but let's because it's such. Why are

1781
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 1: you saying you need to cling onto the train and

1782
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: run because you're not. It's too time in front of it,

1783
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: it's too tiresome to stand in front of a train.

1784
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: But then a narrative train chaotic neutral then say, I

1785
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: am not on board with the Chief's resurgence yet, I

1786
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: don't think we should take because much from this game

1787
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I need to see next week because I think that

1788
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 1: the thing is they probably were never even close to

1789
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: as junkie as we thought in terms of their final destination,

1790
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: and they aren't what we saw tonight going forward without interruption,

1791
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: just something in the middle, and they were going to

1792
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: be junkie Cowboys Chiefs though, is that a CBS game?

1793
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Give it to me, Romo sign, He's got the first

1794
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: round pick in the draft next week. It might be um.

1795
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Final stats here Casey five and sixteen total yards to

1796
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: nine for the Raiders. Turnovers Casey just had one, which

1797
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,959
Speaker 1: is a big improvement for them this season. They dominated

1798
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: time in possession over thirty five minutes and twenty nine

1799
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: to fifteen first downs, almost doubled them up first time

1800
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: first down on the road. That right there, Greg Rosenthal

1801
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: is a statement win by the Chiefs who said the

1802
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 1: division is still ours and guess what I know we have.

1803
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: We lose the tiebreaker to the Titans and the Bill's

1804
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: head to head, but do not count us out from

1805
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: getting red hot. I'm all in on the Chiefs. Make

1806
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: me look dumb. Next, make me look dumb. Okay, it's

1807
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: a Fox game. Don't hate that either. Love all the

1808
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman in my life. Um, and so that'll be

1809
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: a good Greg is getting on. I have been this.

1810
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: I've been pro Troy Aikman for so you don't like him.

1811
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: Territory that Greg is attempting to arrest. He did it

1812
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: on our Friday show is his final thought with some

1813
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: sort of glowing twenty secondment thing. And it's like, I've

1814
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot, It's been like a growing appreciation. It's really

1815
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the Thursday night football thing. You get him twice a week,

1816
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: but Thursday night I'm able to just sit back enjoy

1817
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: watch the Let's also call out that there's a growing

1818
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: distance between you and Tony Romo and your belief in

1819
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: his commentating. You're filling in avoid Greg. Yeah, there could

1820
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: be something there. I don't think it's been his best season.

1821
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That is the Sunday of

1822
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: week ten. We keep rolling. We'll be back on Tuesday

1823
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: with our latest episode of the Around the NFL podcast,

1824
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: So check that out. The wheel keeps turning, Ricky, do

1825
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts before we say goodbye? Now? You

1826
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: guys did a great show. Oh wow, thank you, good

1827
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: job and you did really nice work behind the glass.

1828
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Thanks love a great night. All right, let's go home.

1829
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: Succession night. And so that's what daddy and mommy do together,

1830
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: put the kids to bed, and all they do together. Points.

1831
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 1: That's all you can know about it. All right, enough

1832
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: of that till Tuesday. Plead the call