1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Tiffany Oshinski, and this is serving Pancakes with 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: League One Volleyball. With the inaugural Love season just around 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: the corner. Over the next few weeks, we'll be following 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: some of the biggest women's college volleyball games featuring schools 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: that our players attended. We have a special treat for 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: you guys today. Haley Washington is here. But before we 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: get into the interview, let's quickly recap the match between 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: USC and Haley's alma mater, Penn State. Number three Penn 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: State defeated number sixteen USC and four set Saturday night, 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: twenty five, eighteen twenty twenty five, twenty five to twenty 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: and a thrilling thirty two thirty. In the fourth set, 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: USC was up twenty four to twenty one, but multiple 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: errors by the women of Troy and then a tailor 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: trammeil Kill tied the game at twenty four. After trading blows, 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: the Nitney Lions ultimately secured the victory on a contested 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Cameron Hannah Ace Penn State out hit, outwalk and outdug USC. 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Hannah finished the game with fourteen kills, while outside hit 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: her Jess Mrzik added sixteen of her own. Taylor Trammel 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: and Caroline Jervisiis each had seven blocks. For usc Ali, 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Baitonhorsse led the Trojans with sixteen kills. She also had 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: five blocks and nine digs. And for the Serving Pancakes 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: pancake counter, I didn't see any so zero this week, 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Zero pancakes. Now it's time for what you've all been 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: waiting for. Three time All American and national champion at 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Penn State, two time Olympic medalist, two time BNL Gold medalist, 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: self proclaimed book dragon, and founding athlete of Love Salt 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Lake Haley Washington. Haley, Welcome to Serving Pancakes. Thank you 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: so much for being here. Thank you, thank you so 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: much for so excited to have you on. As someone 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: who grew up as a Penn State fan, my dad 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: and uncle both went. I used to go to football 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: games since I was eight, wanted to go play at 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Penn State. I'm so excited to talk to you. 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm so stoked, I'm so glad to be here. I 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: can't wait to chet. Yeah. 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: No, I have to start because for those who are 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: watching this on YouTube, and if you're listening to this, 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: you should check out YouTube because you have amazing Halloween 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: decorations in the background, So I have to I have 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: to ask party or just for fine party. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 2: Okay, we had a housewarming Halloween party last night because 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: we're officially I'm I was the last sibling to move in. 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm living in Chicago with my brother and sister now 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: and so I was. I finally got moved in and 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: settled in and we were like, we're throwing this Halloween party. 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: So we decorated. It looks amazing in here, very spooky 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 2: season esque, and so yeah, we just have decorations left over. 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: Life never stops amazing. What did you dress up as? 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: I was mclovin from super Bad. I had a sweet vest, 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: I had the thick rimmed glasses. It was very It 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: was very on for the crowd was a little young though, 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: so they were like, are you a pirate? So I 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: had to put on my show. I was like, I'm 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: not a pirate, you guys, I'm. 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: Mcloven You had to pull out the fake ID I. 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: Should have I got. I forgot to order it. It 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: didn't show up. That's on me. 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: So Hally, we're what two and a half months removed 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: from the Olympics. Now from you winning silver medal, your 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: second Olympic medal, are you still on this high? 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: God, I've just been going NonStop really since that, since 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: those Olympic Games, and so I'm just kind of in 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: this weird whirlwind space of like I want to take 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: all this time off, but I want to go see 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: my friends. I need to get settled. I've just been 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: going NonStop. And that seems to kind of be the 67 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: theme for a lot of the other Olympians too, in 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 2: that we got this time off and just have been 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: going NonStop. And so it's good. I still get the high. 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: I see both of my medals and I'm like, I 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: have two of those, not just one, I can two. 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: I have two of them and they're beautiful, and so 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: it's just it's so great and like I can look 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: back and reflect. I just texted like my friends group 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: chat with some of my teammates about how I miss 76 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: us hanging out in the village together, and I was like, 77 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: I miss being able to see you guys every day 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: and just chat like I'm so excited for this season. 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you guys. But it's just yeah, 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: coming off the high, but moving shaking and getting ready 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: for League one. 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: I love it. You know, some of the big news 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: that came out last week was that carch Cry is 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: not going to be coaching the women's seen. He's moving 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: over to the men's team. So what kind of went 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: through your mind when you heard this news. 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm so excited for him. I think 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: that this is gonna be such a fun opportunity. It's 89 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: kind of it's very full circle moment in that, you know, 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: he won two gold medals with the men's team, like 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: he won one indoor and then he won one with Beach, 92 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: and he's had such a successful career with our team. Like, 93 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: I think it's just going to be such an incredible opportunity, 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: not just for him, but for that whole program. Like, 95 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm so excited to see what the future 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: holds for them, especially with like John Spira now as 97 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: at the CEO position for USA Volleyball. So I think 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: it's just it seems like it's good movement and USA 99 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: Volleyball is kind of headed in the right direction. I'm 100 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: really excited for him. 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: He's trying to hit all the stops when mems, but 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: every single stop I don't know. 103 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: Not All I used to do is like go coach 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: professional because he used to coach high school for his 105 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: boys or something like that. He's coached everywhere. It's just 106 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: doing side quests at this point, it's all just side quests. 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: What are you gonna miss most about him as a 108 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: head coach? 109 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: I really love how he instilled growth mindset. That was 110 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: one of my favorite things that he always kind of 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: hit on, Especially when I first got in the gym. 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: It really was about, Okay, it's okay to make mistakes. 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: We're gonna try this new skill, this new way. How 114 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: can you be uncomfortable in that space but continue to 115 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: learn and perfect that skill and master your craft? And 116 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: so I think that idea of growth mindset is something 117 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: that I will definitely miss, but it's a lesson that's 118 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: stuck with me for a good long while. So I'll 119 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: be holding that near and dear to my chest as 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: I continue to play pro. 121 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Where do you see the direction of the program going? 122 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I think it's going to depend 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: really a lot on what coach kind of comes in, 124 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: like who we end up bringing in as a head coach, 125 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: because I think a coach really dictates a lot of 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: the culture and the environment that a program creates and has. 127 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: I think, regardless, some of the tenants of USA Volleyball 128 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: are It's always competitive. It's a beautiful paradox of competition 129 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: in the sense that you want to support the women 130 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: that you're playing with, but you're also trying to beat 131 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: them out for a spot. I imagine that that's something 132 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: that will stay with USA Volleyball, that kind of beautiful 133 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: competitive paradox. I think also USA is a space for 134 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: growing and learning and continuing to master your craft, and 135 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: so I imagine that that will continue to stay the same. 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: And we'll just see what happens with the new head 137 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: coach coming in. I'm excited to see who they get. 138 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I saw on social media a lot of people are 139 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: like Russ Rose, legendary Penn State coach Russ rows Well 140 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: say if he came in, I. 141 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: Was like, you're not doing anything. But I think he's 142 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: lovely not doing anything. I think forty three years as 143 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: a head coach for Penn State. He's like, I think 144 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: he's chilling. I think he's chilling. 145 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: Definitely could see that. I want to talk about your 146 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: career at Penn State. But before we do that, I 147 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: just want to go back. How did you get into volleyball? 148 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: Ah? I love this question. I started playing volleyball because 149 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: my dad would not let me play football. Really, I 150 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: wanted to be a football player so bad, Like when 151 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: I was so, I was twelve years old. We were 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: starting middle school, and that's like kind of when you 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: can start playing sports, like you have a wider variety 154 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: of sports because the school offers it. I grew up 155 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: as a baseball player. I don't want to brag. I 156 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: was pee wee pitcher, pretty cool, but I always grew 157 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: up playing sports. I went to middle school and I 158 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: really wanted to be on the football team, and my 159 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: dad said absolutely not because I was the same height 160 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: that I am now and about one hundred and twenty 161 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: pounds later. So I was just I was rale and 162 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 2: my dad was like, who play Football're gonna get snaped 163 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: in half, so you have to pick something else. A 164 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: friend of mine was going to the volleyball tryout that day, 165 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, oh, blah, I guess 166 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: I'll try volleyball whatever. It's such a girly sport, but 167 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: I guess I'll do it. And I ended up falling 168 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: in love with it at that tryout, Like I loved 169 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: that I could stand on the service line and hit 170 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: the back wall with my serve. And then my coach 171 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: was like, hey, you have to yes in the lines, 172 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, ah, I see how this is 173 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: now a sport. 174 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: See how strong I am I get? 175 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: But I was like that, you see, I'm only twelve, 176 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Look how good I am. So it was really just 177 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: because I couldn't play football, and then I ended up 178 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: really falling in love with volleyball. It just made sense 179 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: to me, and I became passionate about it from that 180 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: day on. 181 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, I mean, flag football is coming to 182 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the Olympics in LA in twenty twenty eight. I know, 183 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to see you in another gold medal. 184 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to live the dream. 185 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: I'll go play flag football. We'll win a golden matstead, 186 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: I'll go win a gold medal in another sport. It 187 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: was so easy to do, you know, so blase about 188 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: it exactly. Now. 189 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: You were born in Colorado, So how did you end 190 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: up in Happy Valley? 191 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, another story involving my dad. I grew up. I 192 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: had very I don't know what, if you could call 193 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: it anxiety. I was a real anxious kid, though, in 194 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: the sense that I was like, I was really big 195 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: about planning for my future. So I'm twelve years old again. 196 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: I just started volleyball, and I am freaking out because 197 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, I have no idea how I'm ever gonna 198 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: be able to afford college, because like they were talking about, 199 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: like there's all these stories about loans and needing to 200 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: take money out and blah blah blah blah. And I 201 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: was like, I now, I don't want to deal with that. 202 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: So if I go to school, I have to go 203 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: to school on a scholarship. I'm going to write down 204 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: everything that I'm good at, everything I kind of like, 205 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: and I'm going to decide today what I'm going to 206 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: get a full ride scholarship in. So I'm made a 207 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: list of like, Okay, I like track, I like basketball, 208 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: I like volleyball, I play the trombone. I could go 209 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: for music. I was like, I enjoy theater. I like 210 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: student government. Like I was making a list of everything 211 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: that I was really passionate about, and I was like, Okay, 212 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: which one of these things would I be willing to 213 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: just work and work and work at in order to 214 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: get a scholarship, and I ended up landing on volleyball 215 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: because it was I don't know if it's because I 216 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: was in season or I really did just love the game. 217 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, this is what I want 218 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: to get a scholarship for. So once I made that decision, 219 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: I turned to my dad. I said, Dad, where's the 220 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: best volleyball school in America? And he was like, you know, 221 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: Penn State's having a pretty good run right now. They 222 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: just won their third national championship and it looks like 223 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: they're slotted to get a fourth next year. And I 224 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: was like, okay, Penn State it is. I'm going to 225 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: shoot for the moon because if I can get close, 226 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: then that means I'm still like pretty decent. So my 227 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: literally was my dad. He could have said, you know, 228 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: you see Irvine, they're pretty good. I would have wildly 229 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: trusted him. I would have followed that man into the 230 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: flames like I. He just happened to know about Penn State, 231 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: and so I set the goal that Penn State was 232 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: really where I wanted to go to school. It was 233 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: my dreams to just like achieve that, and uh yeah, 234 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: I had just pushed through it. God got what I 235 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: wanted eventually, but it was a lot of hard work. 236 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's so inspirational and mature and like thoughtful, 237 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: it's all of that. I feel like if I was 238 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: a young girl and I heard that, I'd be like, 239 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like that's what I got to do 240 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: to succeed and be awesome and get to where I 241 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: need to be. And I mean look at you now 242 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: with the career that you've had, Like that's hashtag goals 243 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: right there. 244 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a perfect path. It worked really 245 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: well for me. I don't know if that's the right 246 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: way for anyone else, but it's one way to get 247 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: to where you want to go for sure. 248 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: Real quick, because I want to ask you about Coach Rose, 249 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: but before I do, trombone. 250 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I played bone seventh through ninth grade. I was 251 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: I really wanted to be a jazz trombonist. I thought 252 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: it was so sick. I so I just picked up 253 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: the trombone when I was in seventh grade, and I wasn't. 254 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: I was no Louis Armstrong. I wasn't like, I know 255 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: he plays the trumpet, but I just I wasn't a fellar, 256 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: but I liked it. It was fun. I liked the 257 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: idea of being able to make music and it was 258 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: very cool. Plus I had long arms, so I could 259 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: reach seventh position. 260 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's something that like. I would not have thought 261 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: of about playing the trombone because I've never played it, 262 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: but that makes a lot of sense. I have short arms, 263 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: so I probably would have been reached. Do you play 264 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: any other instruments now? 265 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: I wish I always I wanted to pick up the guitar. 266 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: I've wanted to play piano, but as far as musical gifts, 267 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: I am lacking in that department. I love to listen 268 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: to music. I just I don't have the I don't 269 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: have the patience to learn a musical instrument. I really 270 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: should I really need to pick something up. 271 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Well, your USA teammate and Salt Lake Teammateer and Poulter 272 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: can teach you a little something, right. 273 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, Poulter has been our 274 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: musician for the USA team. I'm gonna let her do 275 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: her thing. That's that's her realm. I'll keep being a 276 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: book dragon. She can be the musically gifted one. Love 277 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: it well. 278 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Going back to Penn State, can you talk about what 279 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: it was like playing under legendary coach rust. 280 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: Rows, Yeah, it was. It sucked. It was really hard, 281 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: for sure. I can talk about that, and I don't 282 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: mean it sucked in the sense of like I had 283 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: a terrible time and I hated my life. It was 284 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: like he pushed you to be great, and he didn't 285 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: do it in the way of like like a lot 286 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: of people love that gentle motivation of like, hey, I 287 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: believe in you, I know you can, Yes you will, 288 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: let's do this. He pushed you in the sense of 289 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: like why are you so bad? And it wasn't to 290 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: be brutal. It was just that he held you to 291 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: this incredibly high standard because he knew what it took 292 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: to win. He was a great coach that understood winning, 293 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: which I think a lot of coaches that are excellent 294 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: understand it's not always about the volleyball. It's not always 295 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: about the skill that contributes to it, and you want 296 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: to refine that side. But there's an extra intangible, almost 297 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: that creates winning cultures. And I think Russ knew what 298 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: that intangible was and he could coach it out of you, 299 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: which is what I think makes him a fantastic coach. 300 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: Not only that, but he also was so big on 301 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: making you a better person as well as a better player, 302 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: just through the life lessons that he taught on the court, 303 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: like the resilience aspect, the discipline aspect, being on time, 304 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: giving one hundred percent effort in things like these are 305 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: all skills that kind of translate to the real world 306 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: in such incredible ways. And so it was the hardest 307 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: thing I've ever done because he would keep, he would 308 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: hold you to a high standard, and he would push 309 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: you and push you and push you. He was very 310 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: spartan mindset oriented, and that idea of blood, sweat and 311 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: tears creates champions and so it was incredibly difficult. I 312 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: remember the culture shock my freshman year of coming in 313 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: and I had been like, you know, like a big 314 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: fish and a little pond in Colorado, and now I 315 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: was just a little fish in an enormous pond. Really 316 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: had to like prove myself and kind of earn my keep, 317 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: and it was incredibly difficult, but I think it really 318 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: made me the player that I am today. 319 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you are a force on that team and 320 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: then you guys win the national championship. Your freshman year, 321 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: you go to the final four and twenty seventeen year 322 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: senior year, but there was a period of time where 323 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you almost decided not to go pro, right. 324 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, Yeah, I had no idea. I really never 325 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: saw pro or even USA as an avenue for my 326 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: future because I would I had chronic knee injuries all 327 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: throughout college, Like I just I had terrible I have 328 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: terrible biomechanics, like my feet are flat, my knees are 329 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: all knocked and inverted. I just have so many health problems. 330 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: So in college people would ask me, like I remember 331 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: my sophomore year, someone asking me in the locker room, like, Hayley, 332 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: would you ever play Pro? And I was like, first 333 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: of all, I don't even know what that means. What 334 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: do you mean pro? And they were like, yeah, you 335 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: can go to Europe, you can go you can go 336 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: play pro. And I was like, oh no, I'm never 337 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: gonna do that. My knees are terrible. I'm barely gonna 338 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: make it to senior year. And so I never, never 339 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: in a million years thought that I was going to 340 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: end up making it to the pro circuit. And then 341 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: by my senior year, I really just decided to go 342 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: play Pro. I wanted to pay for grad school. I 343 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'll go play Pro for like a year, 344 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: two years, save up some money, and then I'll come back, 345 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: go to grad school and become a librarian. That was 346 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: a dream job. It's still the dream job. I want 347 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: to be a librarian so bad. But that was the 348 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: original thought was I was just gonna use pro to 349 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: kind of help fund my master's degree. And then Russ 350 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: actually pulled me into his office and he gave me 351 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: outstanding life advice, which was if you're gonna do something, 352 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: don't do it in a half assed way. He's like, 353 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: if you're gonna do Pro, don't go play pro for 354 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: two years just because you want to do something else. 355 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: He's like, if you're gonna go play pro, go play pro. 356 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: Give it one hundred percent. Say yes to opportunities, say 357 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: yes when doors open, commit to it. He's like, this 358 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: isn't something you can just kind of throw yourself in 359 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: for a year or two, Like you need to be 360 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: in it for the long haul. And I was like, 361 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: damn it, Okay, fine a try and then it's and 362 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: then eight years later, here. 363 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: We are amazing that story of coachra is telling you 364 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: like the half ass thing we're kind of reminding. I 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: don't know if you watched Part and rec but Ron 366 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Swanson has oh happs one. 367 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Thing whole ass. Yes, yes, I love that quote. I 368 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: love it was very Ron Swanson coded. Yes. 369 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you played in Italy for seven years and 370 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the women who end 371 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: up going pro kind of bounce around to different countries, 372 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: different leagues. But you were in Italy for the whole 373 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: seven years. Yes, What was that like and what what 374 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: made you decide to stay in Italy this whole time? 375 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you were saying, it's super normal in the 376 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: pro circuit, especially as Americans, for us to bounce around. 377 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: You do a couple of years here in Italy and 378 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: then you'll go to Turkey and then maybe you go 379 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: down to Japan, and it's really normal to move around 380 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: a lot. But I, first of all, when I started 381 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: playing pro, I did so after another injury. I had 382 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: to get a minisectomy, I had to get surgery on 383 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: my knee, and so I wasn't coming out of college 384 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: super fresh, which is really hard to do because already 385 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: in the European circuit people are skeptical of American volleyball 386 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: because we have different rules than international volleyball, so they 387 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: really don't think we're these great players, which we're not. 388 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: At the professional level when we leave college, you shouldn't 389 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: be You should be a collegiate player that learns to 390 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: play professionally. But because I was coming out of college 391 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: and I was injured, I wasn't going to go to 392 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: like a top tier team like I wasn't going to 393 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: go to Amocha right away, or I wasn't going to 394 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: end up at like a zag like an Ixaji. But 395 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: we managed to find me this contract for a little 396 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: A two team in Ravenna, Italy, and I taught was 397 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: talking to my agent and he was like it's He's like, 398 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: I know, this isn't your caliber. You're better than this. 399 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: He's like, but we have to prove who you are 400 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: in the European world and you can work your way 401 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: up the ladder. He's like, it's a step by step 402 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 2: kind of thing. You just take it one season at 403 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: a time and we'll see where we can get you. 404 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: And that goes back to the rest quote of like, 405 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: you can't just do this for two years. It was 406 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: going to be a long game. But after he gave 407 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: me that advice, I was committed to it. And so 408 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: with that mentality in mind, I was like, Okay, I 409 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: really just want to stick it out in Italy, like 410 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: let's work my way up and prove that I deserve 411 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: to be overseas, that I deserve to be professional, that 412 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: I belong here, and that I can do this. And 413 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: I just absorbed as much as I could while I 414 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: was there. I tried to learn, I tried to grow. 415 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: I had a couple options to go over to Turkey, 416 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: but there was just something that was that told me 417 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: to stay in Italy. And I'm really glad I did. 418 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: Like I picked up the language, I've made lifelong friends, 419 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: I had an incredible seven years over there, and I 420 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: wouldn't change it for the world. 421 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: That was fascinating because again going back to like you 422 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: in high school, with this maturity level of how to 423 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: approach playing volleyball, you brought it to Italy because I 424 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people when they go pro 425 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: are like I can do this, I'm going to dominate 426 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: instead of taking this like one year at a time, 427 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: like it's a learning curve. I think that's fascinating and 428 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: again really inspirational. Now after those seven years, now you 429 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: get to come back to the States, you get to 430 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: play here in the States with League one in Salt Lake. 431 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: And Salt Lake I think it's like an hour and 432 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: a half plane ride from Denver. So it's like not 433 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: too far from where you grew up. But I'm curious 434 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: what ultimately drew you to love and becoming a founding athlete. 435 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: I've been so I've been with love from the very 436 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: very very beginning when it was just like a zoom 437 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: call with a couple other USA athletes and kind of 438 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 2: the people that had this idea for this league. And 439 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: I remember just being because I had been approached by 440 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: a couple other people that had talked about wanting to 441 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: start up a league in the States. I'd been approached 442 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: by AU, I had been approached by this other company 443 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: that wanted to do like all Star weekends for volleyball, 444 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: And every time I heard a pitch for a league, 445 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: I was always just like, Okay, I mean, I don't 446 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: really know. It's just volleyball isn't popular in the States, 447 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't really know if this 448 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: is going to be what grabs people and like makes 449 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: them get excited about volleyball in America. But I was 450 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: on the Zoom call, so I'm ready to listen to 451 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: another pitch about another league, and I'm like, this is 452 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: just gonna bum me out. I'm gonna have to play 453 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: in Italy for the rest of my life, which isn't 454 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: the end of the world. But but so I was 455 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: listening to them for this idea, and I loved how 456 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: they were talking about this idea of kind of bottom 457 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: up in the sense of building this league. So it 458 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: wasn't all just focused on pro It was also focused 459 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: on the youth outreach, it was focused on the community, 460 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 2: it was focused on the clubs, and I loved that approach. 461 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I love that we're focusing not just 462 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: on the professional side, but on this on this pipeline. 463 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: Because there's a huge market for girls in America in volleyball, 464 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: Like forty million girls play high school and middle school volleyball, 465 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: so it's a fast growing sport. People are excited about it. 466 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: And the fact that we were concentrating not just on 467 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: the pro side but also on the club side, I 468 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: was like, this actually sounds this actually sounds pretty cool. 469 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, I'm interested. I would love 470 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: to work with you guys. I would love to be 471 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be in a consultant 472 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: sense as they kind of built this league, like I 473 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: would tell them like, oh yeah, Terriflex and Macassa balls 474 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: are gray, and I would just like kind of give 475 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: them that feedback. But as eall, it was really cool 476 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: to see like, oh, I would love to actually play 477 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: in this league, like I want to do this. This 478 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: sounds so cool, And it just kept growing from this 479 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: like little seed of an idea of just like us 480 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: on a zoom call to this like backyard barbecue where 481 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: we were talking to like the CEOs and the CFOs 482 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: and people on the board and some local clubs that 483 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: came out, some not local club directors came out, and 484 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: that was really cool. And then to this year where 485 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: we're at the High Regency in Huntington and we've rented 486 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: out this big space. There's like two hundred three hundred 487 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: people there, and it's just crazy to see how much 488 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: it's grown. And now literally next week I'm leaving to 489 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: start with my club team, like my pro team. That 490 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: is so incredible and so yeah, I'm just I'm so excited, 491 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: and I think League one is doing something really unique. 492 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see how it goes. 493 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So excited for the season to starry, 494 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: So excited to watch you ladies play in America and 495 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: have everybody else watched. You know, last week actually we 496 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: had Tama mia Shiro, who you know very well, assistant 497 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: coach on Tmusa but also your head coach now at 498 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: Salt Lake. So how excited were you when you heard 499 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: that she was gonna be your head coach? 500 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: So stoked? Oh my gosh. First of all, I love 501 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: I love Tama. I think she's an outstanding coach. She's 502 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: got a great head on her shoulders. I love that 503 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: she her background, like she was a libero when she played, 504 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: and so she's just got that vision for the game. 505 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: She just sees the game so well. And like having 506 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: coached with her or played with her at USA, like 507 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: she is the coach, I'm the player. I never played 508 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: with her, but you know I was. It was just 509 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: so nice that I was like, Okay, we don't have 510 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: to worry about any like curveballs, any gimmicks, Like I 511 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: know what to expect. This is gonna make that first 512 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: kind of season just so much easier, So I am 513 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: so excited. I also love Tama's like very chill, She's 514 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: very calm, which matches my spasiness spazziness very well. So 515 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna I think she's gonna help even 516 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: me out, which is gonna be great. 517 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Do you think you have any advantage now that you 518 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: guys have this connection and there's other players on the 519 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: team who have also already played under her. 520 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be I think that's gonna be 521 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: very helpful, just because, like it, as a player you 522 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: have to kind of figure out how to communicate with 523 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: your coaches, like that's a big aspect of playing professionally. 524 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: And so I think because a lot of us have 525 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: played with her or for her, it's that that's just 526 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: a hurdle that we're already jumping over, like we don't 527 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: have to worry about, like, oh, how should we communicate 528 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: what's the best way to get and give feedback? Like 529 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: this done, we're good, We're good to go. And then 530 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: a couple of people that are new and gonna figure 531 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: it have to figure it out. Tama is so easy 532 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: to work with, She's incredible, So it's gonna be just fun. 533 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of your personality on the court and everything, 534 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you're so fun to watch just after every block, 535 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: every kill, after every amazing dig or ace, Like no 536 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: matter what it is, you're just so animated, so excited. 537 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: Where did this mentality come from? 538 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: I wish I could tell you. I generally, I've been 539 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: doing it since I started playing volleyball. Like I remember 540 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: when I was in ninth, eighth or ninth grade and 541 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: we were just in the gym at my old high 542 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: school after school, just kind of messing around, and I 543 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: was tossing balls to our setter and she was setting me, 544 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: and I was just hitting some balls. And after every 545 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: kill that I would get, I would come down and 546 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: I'd yell and i'd high five my setter, and like 547 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: my teammates, a couple some of my teammates were also there, 548 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: and they were like, we want to yell like that. 549 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: Why do you do that? I was like, I don't know, 550 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: Like I'm just I just love this game so much 551 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: that it just it fills me with so much joy 552 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: and energy and I have to let it out. I'm 553 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: pretty sure if I don't yell, I'll explode. Like I 554 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: think that's what it is. I'm just trying to prevent 555 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: myself from spontaneously combusting. 556 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna be the most animated librarian when you eventually 557 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: go into that career. 558 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: Just storytime out at my library is gonna pop off 559 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: come through. 560 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: So, speaking of books reading librarian, you you're a self 561 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: proclaimed book dragon. How did you find this love of 562 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: books and reading? 563 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: I honestly don't really know what the where the shift 564 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: was because growing up I wasn't an avid reader. Like. 565 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: Growing up, I was more of like a get outside 566 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: and play kind of girly. Like we had a river 567 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: that ran through my hometown, so my siblings and I 568 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: would swim in the river, or we'd go hiking or camping, 569 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: like I was very outdoorsy oriented. But then something happened, 570 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: like my junior or senior year of high school where 571 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: my brother had a reading assignment. He had to read 572 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: the Poison Wood Bible for his like freshman class or 573 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: for seventh grade something like that. And I was bored 574 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: and wanted to read a book, and so I picked 575 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: up the Poisonwood Bible devoured it. It's one of my 576 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: favorite books of all time still, and I was like, 577 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: whoa reading is amazing, and then I just really I 578 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: started to fall in love with it. I started to like, 579 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: look at this author, Barbara Kingsholver, and I was like, 580 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: what else can I read by her? And then I 581 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: got really into you know, the dystopian yaam that we 582 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 2: were in, so like, I read The Hunger Games and 583 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: I read the Divergent and Allegiance series and all that. 584 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Mazer Runner. 585 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, my sister was the maze Runner girly. I read 586 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: the first Maze Runner and I was like, Nah, it's okay, 587 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: I know, bird bird, relax, calmed down. It was good. 588 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: I loved it. 589 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: But I again, I was a Hunger Games girly. I 590 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: read the Hunger Games. I think I read The Hunger 591 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Games like eight times in one year because I was 592 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: so obsessed with it. That's another thing about me. If 593 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: I get hyper fixated on something, I will just do 594 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: it over and over and over and over again. So 595 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: I just really fell in love with reading. And then 596 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: it kind of translated into looking for colleges. When I 597 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: started going on recruiting trips, I was like, I need 598 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: to see their libraries, show me what you're working with. 599 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: And Penn State has this incredible section in their library 600 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: called the Stacks of kind of these more like archival 601 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: books that they have out for like resources and references 602 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: and writing essays and such. But it was beautiful. I 603 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: loved the Stacks. I still love the Stacks at Penn State, 604 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: and it was one of many reasons why I committed there. 605 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: But they're library was just so gorgeous and so yeah. 606 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: I think it was around my junior senior year that 607 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: I just really fell in love with reading, and now 608 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: I can't stop. I have a bookshelf in my bedroom 609 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: just filled to the brim with books. I have books 610 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: out here on our entertainment than I brought books back 611 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: from Italy. I brought books from cal I've got books everywhere. 612 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: I also have a bad habit of shopping in airports. 613 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: I love an airport bookstore, and I will go on 614 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: a trip and buy like five or six books just 615 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: for no reason. I'm just like, I want to read this, 616 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: and they just stand in piles of to be read 617 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: like lists. I am. 618 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: I'm a kindred spirit of your buying of books. I 619 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: have a bookshelf. You can't see it right here. It's 620 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: just filled with books. Most are read. I have to 621 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: move them so upstairs on my nightstand, I have stacks 622 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: of books of the to be read, and then when 623 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: I read on I put them down here. 624 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: My bookshelf that I can migrate. 625 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but unfortunately I'll buy for like five books 626 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: to every one book that I read, so it just 627 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: keeps getting longer and longer. 628 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. That's why I call myself a book dragon. 629 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: You know, dragons, they wore their gold and they just 630 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: sit on them like with piles of their gold. And 631 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: that's what I am. My books is like I'll finish 632 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: a book and then I'll be like, hmm, let me 633 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: go buy thirty more books and attempt to read just 634 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: one more. Like it's so bad, it's so bad. 635 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: What are you reading now? 636 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm reading Braiding Sweet Grass. It is about 637 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: kind of like living with nature and through indigenous perspectives 638 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: and indigenous teachings, like indigenous person's teachings. It's really good. 639 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: It's very powerful. It's written by this professor. I think 640 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: she's from the University of Wyoming, but I'm not one 641 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: hundred percent certain. But she's a professor, she's a mother, 642 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: she's First Nations, and she just has a really good 643 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: perspective on kind of living in tandem with the land, 644 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: which is just it's very beautiful, very well written. 645 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: Have you read any books that have helped you in 646 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: volleyball or helped you when it comes to growth as 647 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: an athlete? 648 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. So I read I know this is 649 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: going to be a controversial one, but I read Can't 650 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: Hurt Me by David Goggins. And I know he's a 651 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: little bit of a controversial figure. I don't really subscribe 652 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: to him as a human being. But the book was 653 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: good in the sense that it had a lot of 654 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: good core principles, Like he talks about what's my why, 655 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: Like having a why for doing what you do, because 656 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: when you're in the middle of something and it's gritty 657 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: and you're grinding and you want to just give up 658 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 2: and quit, having I can't quit because this is why, 659 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: because I'm doing it for X reason. I'm doing it 660 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: because I set a goal, I'm doing it for my mom, 661 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing it. Like having that like what's my Why? 662 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: I think is so foundational. So that was that book 663 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: really stuck with me. Legacy The Story of the All 664 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: Blacks from New Zealand, that's a really powerful book. Just 665 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: about leadership and working together as a team. And then 666 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Once a Runner is also a really great book. I'm 667 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: not a runner, never was once a Runner, but I 668 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: think running culture is just so cool. Like I think 669 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: runners are some of the most amazing athletes in the 670 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: sense that it's not just a physical discipline you need, 671 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: it's also this really intense mental discipline. And so the 672 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: story and Once Runner is just really cool, very powerful, 673 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: pushing through adversity, pushing yourself to be the best that 674 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: you can be. So I think those are my top three. Also, 675 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: Shoe Dog by Phil Knight. I just read that it's 676 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: like the story of Nike, just cool, like perspective on 677 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: history of this like iconic brand that we now have 678 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: and kind of how they built that company. It's very cool. 679 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: Love it now. I know you said that the end 680 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: goal in life will be librarian at some point, but 681 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: do you ever see yourself coaching? 682 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Yes? I actually I cannot believe that this is my 683 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: answer to this question. I used to answer ask this 684 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: question all the time, and my answer was going to 685 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: be a resounding no. I was like, no, once I'm 686 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: done playing, I'm done with volleyball forever. I can't do it. 687 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: But then this year something shifted. I don't know where 688 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: it came from, but all of a sudden, I was like, 689 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: coaching would be really fun. I think it would be 690 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: really cool to kind of see the game from this 691 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: other perspective. And honestly, it scares the bejeez asatomy the 692 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: idea of because I don't know anything about being a coach. 693 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm a really good player. I'm really good as a stretch. 694 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm a good player, I'm deeper. 695 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: You're a very good player, thank you. 696 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 2: I'm decent a volleyball. But I don't know anything about 697 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: coaching or what it takes to be a coach, or 698 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: how to impart wisdom and advice to players. And I 699 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: think because that scares me so much, that challenge intimidates me. 700 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: I think it's that's what's piqued by interest, is like 701 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: I want to learn in that space. I've always really 702 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: valued being a learner, and I think to go to 703 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: the coaching side and just learn that perspective, I think 704 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: really interests me. So I think I'm gonna end up coaching. 705 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: I think that's what's gonna happen. 706 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: You're about to go buy thirty new books on coaching literally. 707 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: Well, I went to the University of Utah actually, and 708 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: their head coach, coach Beth, She wrote a book with 709 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: one of their boosters about coaching and kind of business, 710 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, can I can I get a 711 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: copy of the book please. Well, I've started studying, I've 712 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: started my I've started my literate, my lit journey on 713 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: how to be a coach. 714 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: I love it all? Right, last question, with the season 715 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: about to begin, what are you hoping to showcase in 716 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: this Nowgirl season. 717 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things that I want to 718 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: I want to show I think above all else, I 719 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: want to teach Americans how to be volleyball watchers. I 720 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: think we treat volleyball too much like tennis in America. 721 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: So we get really quiet for the serve and the 722 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: play happens, and then we're like, hooray sports. Then we 723 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: get really quiet again, and like, I just it's really nice, 724 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: it's very sweet. But I think we need to teach 725 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: American audiences that like, no, this pardon my language. I 726 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm allowed to cuss on the show, 727 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: but this is rowdy. We need to get weird. So, 728 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: like I want to showcase, like just how cool and 729 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: entertaining volleyball can really be. Like I think for a 730 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 2: really long time, volleyball has gotten this rap is kind 731 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: of being the like this girly girl kind of sport, 732 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: and it's just like something that the people that couldn't 733 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: play basket balld And I just I want to show 734 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: just how badass women's volleyball really is. And so I 735 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 2: want there to be drums. I want there to be noisemakers. 736 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: We need to get DJs at the events. We need 737 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: to play some really good competitive volleyball. I would really 738 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: love to continue with the community outreach and so like 739 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: incorporating youth programs and clubs into the volleyball Like, I 740 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: think we just have a really cool chance to make 741 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: a really energetic and passionate space around volleyball. And so 742 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: that's what I want to showcase. It's the passion, the energy, 743 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: and teach Americans how to be rowdy. You can do 744 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: it for a Buffalo Bill's game, Come do it for 745 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: a women's volleyball game. So that's loud. 746 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: I love that so much. I can't wait to see 747 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: it all come to fruition in January when the league 748 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: officially starts and everyone gets to watch. Well, Haley, it's 749 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: been a pleasure talking with you. Thank you so much 750 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. 751 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 2: This was awesome. Thank you so much for having me kish. 752 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: Serving Pancakes is an iheartwomen's sports production in partnership with 753 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us a 754 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 755 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Production by League One Volleyball, I'm your host, 756 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: Tiffany Oshinsky. Anya Olivarez is our senior producer. Our executive 757 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: producers are Carrie Stett, Tamaradike, and Lindsay Hoffman. Our marketing 758 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: lead is Jawara Parker. Sound editing and mixing by Daniel Gonzalez. 759 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: Our theme music is Pancakes by Eric w Mast Junior 760 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: special thanks to Haley Washington. Stay tuned for another episode 761 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: of Serving Pancakes. Thanks for listening.